Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2228423]I kind of used to do that. But I've recently been negotiating more.

From my experiences, when you negotiate a fair price, the girls are not "cheap" with their effort. I don't find a difference. But note I'm not into GFE type of stuff as a lot of guys here are. As long as the girls suck and lick on command, then I am happy.[/QUOTE]I have been through a couple thousand paid chicks. If it is not a place with a set price then I always negotiate and I don't normally give tips. The only time it seemed that a chick was not trying is from some of the street girls in Tijuana and a chick at the $6 spot on Calle 18 in Guayaquil.

To me it is riduliculous to assume things are not going to go right because you negotiated. I would like for some guys to give examples of the times they negotiated and things went bad, or is this just an assumption that is being made? Because in my experience it just does not happen that way.

[QUOTE=JamesPearle;2228267]You should have at least gotten your money back to discourage it from pulling that stunt on someone else.[/QUOTE]What happened to rule #1 never, never, pay a hooker upfront?

[QUOTE=RacShack;2228511]What happened to rule #1 never, never, pay a hooker upfront?[/QUOTE]That's a smart rule.

But at Medellin's Vera Cruz, it seems the standard is that you pay upfront.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2228534]That's a smart rule.

But at Medellin's Vera Cruz, it seems the standard is that you pay upfront.[/QUOTE]Never paying up front is a great rule, and one I always follow.

Just like with Vera Cruz, the big bars like Fiebre, etc in the Santa Fe district of Bogota require that you pay up front as well.

You have to pay for the room upfront, not the girl. If an individual provider insists on upfront payment, my advice is to find another. Anyone who does otherwise should be prepared to take their lumps before moving on. I prefer to just move on and leave the lumps for others.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2228534]That's a smart rule.

But at Medellin's Vera Cruz, it seems the standard is that you pay upfront.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RacShack;2228511]What happened to rule #1 never, never, pay a hooker upfront?[/QUOTE]Respectfully, having mongered in multiple countries (read my reports), I can assure you that rule doesn't apply to every country in the world. Yeah, you can get away with that in Sosua in the Dominican Republic, but good luck trying to get away with that in Tokyo or Sint Maarten or El Salvador.

The most important thing you can do with a WG is negotiate and make sure you know what you are getting before any money exchanges hands. Don't assume you're going to get MSOG. Don't assume you're going to be able to DATY. Don't assume you're going to get BBBJCIM. Ask questions and make sure the terms of the session are clear before you pay. If your prospective WG gets skittish and hesitates to answer your questions, move on to the next WG. She's skittish and hesitant because you're showing you have negotiating skills and she's used to pulling a con job on a client in the bedroom who didn't ask questions about services and whose money was taken and quickly stuffed deep into her purse even before she got naked.

So, there's nothing wrong with paying a WG upfront if you've set the terms of the session and know what you're getting before you're balls deep in the pussy.

Well said! I knew when I misspelled Colombia and people got butt hurt that I was dealing with a different group here.

"Some" in here need to lighten up and just enjoy the fruits. No one has written the ISG Approved procedures on this fun mongering life. It's good we share info but be open minded to different methods and use what works for you. If cheap, discounted, red sticker must sale by date vagina is your thing, have at it. But the day before it wasn't on sale and someone paid regular price. Not everyone uses coupons at the grocery store!! Not every troop ask for a military discount!! Not every guy that wants to bang a smoking hot prostitute in Colombia wants to haggle the prices. It's like a flea market, I get to determine what I'm willing to pay after digging through the crate of items! Its all based on what it's worth to me! When my penis is giving me the thumbs up, I never think to myself what would Gringo45321 do on ISG do? A few of us need to get over yourselves LOL Hahahaha when I'm sex fueled, drunk, and have my prey in sight it's all instinct at that point. And my experiences have been awesome!

[QUOTE=Lowkey1;2228158]This is exactly how I think. Just ask the price, I never negotiate. If its worth it, pay it. Soon as you start to haggle it ruins it and they loose interest. You are cheap with your money they are cheap with their effort. I do not find a lot of people with this point of view. But I do agree with the one guy who said if she is a dead fish at 200 she will also be a deadfish at 250. Yes, not all girls are rock stars, so you will have bad ones, but if you grind every little penny down with them no one will want to deal with you. That extra 30-40 bucks you give will be the highlight and big deal to her. Makes the world of difference. So if the initial price is a no go just move on. With that being said, try to tell someone this philosophy at the MANSION and those old cheap trolls that go there will loose there mind and say you are ruining it for everyone. Well I was at the mansion recently and the moral of the building is low, the girls are burned out with the cheap old men. Not like it was 10 years ago. Depends on the crowd there, buy some food and drinks, spread the joy and that place is amazing. Squabble your extra $5 USA and don't buy drinks and it sucks. If you are going to be cheap go get a budget hotel and bang the 20,000 COP girls at the cheap gross casas. Bring a little extra money, throw it around, buy some drinks, dance, laugh and your money will buy you a lot more than a quick nut.[/QUOTE]

Ummmm because she's still a human? No matter what your selling.

Or who's selling it, it's natural instinct to become defensive as someone tries to pay you less than what you value it at. In this case we are talking about her body, her mouth, her vagina. You can't see how this could affect her attitude?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2228183]So why would she ruin the connection you two have together over 10 measly dollars? Maybe not paying the 10 measly dollars more is helping you avoid a train wreck.[/QUOTE]

I'm planning a February trip Only 3 of us. I'd like to be close to the action or very nearby in park Lleras area.

I'm looking for 4 bedroom 4 bathroom paisa friendly. It's a first time trip 3-4 guys speak Spanish. Not sure if it's standard but front door security and room safes are something I'm looking for.

I'd appreciate any suggestions.

I see a few options on airbnb, I'm hoping someone can share a few specific places.

Mr Enternational,

I can honestly say you could be right! You've had a lot more experience than I have doing this. I wouldn't even attempt to rebuttal because frankly I don't know it as fact. I must have a mindset. When you walk in a casa or massage parlor do you negotiate the price on the card or that the manager gives? When you walk into the love motel do you attempt to negotiate an on the hour rate? Most likely not but I bet if you really tried you could with "some" of them. You most likely don't and pick your battles. The average person will get their discount with the actual girl herself they will bargain her down or tight was with a tip. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. But that is an option just like the other places you probably chose not to attempt to discount. I've had girls that I haggled with in San Jose that literally went from kissing and touching all over me in public until negotiations began as soon as I dropped the price they agreed but I noticed an almost immediate change in their attitude. Almost a let down vibe glazed over their face. I asked her if she's OK, and she said 1 word. Cheap and cut her eyes. I passed on the session because the vibe was gone over $20. When she was happy earlier thinking the price was set at her number she couldn't keep her hands off of me.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2228472]I have been through a couple thousand paid chicks. If it is not a place with a set price then I always negotiate and I don't normally give tips. The only time it seemed that a chick was not trying is from some of the street girls in Tijuana and a chick at the $6 spot on Calle 18 in Guayaquil.

To me it is riduliculous to assume things are not going to go right because you negotiated. I would like for some guys to give examples of the times they negotiated and things went bad, or is this just an assumption that is being made? Because in my experience it just does not happen that way.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2228423]- All ATMs will give out virtually the same exchange rate; virtually same as the Visa rates. If you discount for all the fees (fees that you can recover), you virtually cannot beat the exchange rate anywhere. Last week, I got around 3079. Yesterday, it just went below 3000.[/QUOTE]Amazing that this has to be repeated again and again, time after time. ATMs are by far the best way to get local cash almost ANYWHERE in the world. Still someone insists travelling with cash and feeding exchange booths.

1) The exchange rate is usually better than that one can get at exchange booths: that is, the interbank daily rate + 1. 25%, plus fixed fees that one still can avoid using the appropriate card and the appropriate ATM. Only in few places of the world (namely Batam in my case) I found exchange booths offering better rates, probably because they need USD for "supporting local trade".

2) Getting some cash from ATMs, day by day, is safer than travelling with $2 k cash.

I just wish to add a couple of remarks to what you wrote above:

1) The most widely debit card circuit is Maestro probably, and it's MasterCard, not VISA. Same exchange rate anyway, so this remark has null impact.

2) NEVER use a credit card to get cash from ATMs. Some cards are double-function. One has to know that, and be smart to avoid that the credit function is automatically selected by the system (oh yes. Banks are smart). Always select the DEBIT function, e. G. Maestro (AHORROS in Colombia ATMs). If you use the credit function, on top of all other charges there is the +4% credit fee.

[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2227490] ruining a potential great experience over $10.10 measly dollars? [/QUOTE]It's not simply $10.10. It is $10.10 2-3 times a day per chica, then every once in a while at a restaurant and more frequently with taxis. Oh wait, I almost forgot, someone on here said "no one has ever been ripped of by a taxi!" My bad! Jajajaja If it was $10.10 one time per trip, 99% would not mention it.

El Mechanico.

[QUOTE=NYCassman;2228630]I'm planning a February trip Only 3 of us. I'd like to be close to the action or very nearby in park Lleras area.

I'm looking for 4 bedroom 4 bathroom paisa friendly. It's a first time trip 3-4 guys speak Spanish. Not sure if it's standard but front door security and room safes are something I'm looking for.

I'd appreciate any suggestions.

I see a few options on airbnb, I'm hoping someone can share a few specific places.[/QUOTE]Do you want to be close to the action, or close to Parque Lleras? If you want to be in Parque Lleras, you're not really close to the action.

I'm pretty sure every apartment and hotel room in Medellin is paisa friendly. Paisa is the name used to describe someone from the area of Colombia that includes Medellin and Paisas are by nature friendly. I think you're looking for a place that is chica friendly.

You might try Poblado rentals or First American Investment Realty.

[QUOTE=RacShack;2228511]What happened to rule #1 never, never, pay a hooker upfront?[/QUOTE]Lots of places in MED want the money 1st like strip clubs. I always pay the VeraCruz girls in advance, it's only $10 anyway. Then I hint about a tip if the secession goes well. Works for me.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2228786]Do you want to be close to the action, or close to Parque Lleras? If you want to be in Parque Lleras, you're not really close to the action.

I'm pretty sure every apartment and hotel room in Medellin is paisa friendly. Paisa is the name used to describe someone from the area of Colombia that includes Medellin and Paisas are by nature friendly. I think you're looking for a place that is chica friendly.

You might try Poblado rentals or First American Investment Realty.[/QUOTE]I want to be in the mix of clubs bars and restaurants. I thought Park lleras was central for all the above. Is there somewhere specific you suggest that is a better location?

Yes Chica friendly, one friend visited Medellin stayed in a nice hotel 20 $ guest fee and some Airbnb apartments I have researched have house rules which don't allow guest after certain times. I'm just looking for a few specific suggestions.

I want to hit the casas clubs and I'm curious if the independents threw prepagos website is a good option for chicas.

I appreciate your response and any information anyone can share.