Sosua Reports

I'm inferring that you guys are implying that there is a lot of bullshit and drama, as well as avaricious and meretricious behavior going on in Sosúa. I'd again invite you to consider Spain, where prices are transparent and the chances of someone trying to eat off of your plate are approximately asymptotic to zero. I am in Madrid now, and that is the second most expensive place in Spain for pussy, and it's still only 50 euro = $57 a half hour, and you don't got to buy them drinks or shit. Tom Jackin maybe was on his first trip to Spain, and hasn't responded about what venues he pursued, but I've been all over Latin América and for a stay of a week or more, you dogs are barking up the wrong tree. And no crooked cops to think about, as that is a well-paying job in Spain, as is being a waiter. Imagine how much less bullshit you would go through if the answer to how much to tip was NEVER.

I'm just sayin' and I don't know who's black or white by reading the board (ja ja), but if you're black, go to southern Spain like Málaga or Fuengirola, and if you are white go farther north. There is some prejudice against blacks in Spain, dating back to the Moorish Conquest, and all I can do about that is apologize, but US currency is all one color whereas euro notes are of many colors, so that in itself tells you something. You guys are talking about gringo pricing and mysterious charges on your bills, and I am thinking, why would anyone put up with that? In the DR you have high unemployment and low levels of education. In Spain you have high unemployment even among the more educated classes. Which situation will produce a better class of hookers? I will leave that up to you to decide.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;1959724]I'm inferring that you guys are implying that there is a lot of bullshit and drama, as well as avaricious and meretricious behavior going on in Sosa. I'd again invite you to consider Spain, where prices are transparent and the chances of someone trying to eat off of your plate are approximately asymptotic to zero. I am in Madrid now, and that is the second most expensive place in Spain for pussy, and it's still only 50 euro = $57 a half hour, and you don't got to buy them drinks or shit. Tom Jackin maybe was on his first trip to Spain, and hasn't responded about what venues he pursued, but I've been all over Latin Amrica and for a stay of a week or more, you dogs are barking up the wrong tree. And no crooked cops to think about, as that is a well-paying job in Spain, as is being a waiter. Imagine how much less bullshit you would go through if the answer to how much to tip was NEVER.

I'm just sayin' and I don't know who's black or white by reading the board (ja ja), but if you're black, go to southern Spain like Mlaga or Fuengirola, and if you are white go farther north. There is some prejudice against blacks in Spain, dating back to the Moorish Conquest, and all I can do about that is apologize, but US currency is all one color whereas euro notes are of many colors, so that in itself tells you something. You guys are talking about gringo pricing and mysterious charges on your bills, and I am thinking, why would anyone put up with that? In the DR you have high unemployment and low levels of education. In Spain you have high unemployment even among the more educated classes. Which situation will produce a better class of hookers? I will leave that up to you to decide.[/QUOTE]Why didn't you mention Medellin in Colombia, where the prices are so low it's hard to believe. I am in Medellin now, the weathers great, the women are beautiful, and you can get fucked for 30,000 CP = $ 10.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;1959724]I am in Madrid now, and that is the second most expensive place in Spain for pussy, and it's still only 50 euro = $57 a half hour, and you don't got to buy them drinks or shit. Tom Jackin maybe was on his first trip to Spain, and hasn't responded about what venues he pursued, but I've been all over Latin Amrica and for a stay of a week or more, you dogs are barking up the wrong tree. [/QUOTE]I will respond on the Sosua thread because you dragged my name in here.

It was my first trip to Barcelona and Madrid, so no, I'm not a season vet in Spain. Before I went, I did a lot of research and here are my two reports:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=1907272[/URL]#post1907272.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=1904228[/URL]#post1904228.

I really liked both cites and thought the food was great, but I do not consider either city a good mongering place.

You have your opinion, and I have mine.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1959700]
Now I realize we do not have the power to regulate how we are discriminated against. But sometimes when you stand up for yourself and let them know you are paying attention, you may be treated more fairly. Shit most of the time we are the ones bringing tons of business to these establishments. The least they can do is just give us the same price. I do not remember the restaurants, but I do remember there were a couple that got caught giving different menus to the locals and the foreigner.

[/QUOTE]Well, they have menus in Spanish, in English, and sometimes in German for that matter. I'm not sure that is illegal because even in government-run places like the fort at Puerto Plata there is a different entrance fee for gringos and for locals. Or at the Teleferico, for that matter, and they are quite open about it.

Airlines sell similar seats for all sorts of different prices, and there is little transparency about how this works. Prices on Amazon change all the time and you can't really be sure you are paying the same as the other guy.

In the US in-state students pay less at state colleges and universities, and in many countries overseas students pay far more than locals.

In the Dominican Republic beggars approach more foreigners and prostitutes charge local men less than they charge foreigners, and charge local residents less than weekend warriors.

I suggest that all readers of this board completely boycott the Dominican Republic until Dominican beggars and prostitutes are brought into line with the North Atlantic Free Trade Agreement.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;1959724] You guys are talking about gringo pricing and mysterious charges on your bills, and I am thinking, why would anyone put up with that? In the DR you have high unemployment and low levels of education. In Spain you have high unemployment even among the more educated classes. Which situation will produce a better class of hookers? I will leave that up to you to decide.[/QUOTE]Good question. Why would anyone want to live in such an awful, unfair country as the DR when they could live in a much more highly regulated environment in any of the developed democracies?

[QUOTE=Frannie;1959759]I suggest that all readers of this board completely boycott the Dominican Republic until Dominican beggars and prostitutes are brought into line with the North Atlantic Free Trade Agreement.[/QUOTE]I suggest that you all stop responding to the lunacy of one that over analyzes every darned thing and uses up REAMS of virtual paper. Much ado about nothing!

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1959664]WRX said"I am not exactly sure the context you mean when you said once they respect you and your space you might slide them 50 pesos for the respect they give you. ".

For me it works the same way a police officer works an informant. The knowledge they can possibly give me in the future or the information that I need is a value that I don't mind forfeiting 50 pesos every trip to keep that connection. These guys are connected to the streets and have some great Intel but you first have to establish their respect for you. Respectfully speaking but those "Bros" info falls in comparison to the info the touts and beggars have. Maybe something as simple as a bad situation that you are entering and that tout giving you a heads-up, whereas that asshole gringo that he doesn't like might be walking into danger. It's on your terms but nothing regular, throwing a bone is how it works in the DR bro.[/QUOTE]What you are talking about here is not what I was addressing. I already acknowledged that if someone is providing a service it makes sense to compensate them. I was talking about the idea that you said you might slide someone 50 pesos for the respect and space they give you. And what I am saying is no one needs to pay just because they are respected or given their space. What you are potentially reinforcing, is that your space and respect is somehow connected to being rewarded. So that if you stop paying, now you have a potentially disappointed tout on your hands who got used to your handouts for doing nothing more than just respecting you or giving you your space.

[QUOTE]I really hope you change your mentality and understand that if you live in the DR that the relationships you have with Dominicans far outweighs the relationships you have with gringos and bros, Sosua has you insulated. Go to Spanish school, learn Spanish dancing and let the culture open up to you. Keep an open mind, don't analyze everything and take some things as they are Hanging in Sosua with the bros hating on putas, touts, and beggars will get you nowhere unless you want to be known as the mean gringo who nobody likes.[/QUOTE]With all due respect, you really have no clue what you are talking about. About my life, how I operate daily or the people I associate with. In Sosua or in the states. You are so far out of my loop it's ridiculous. And I am astonished that you would try to give me suggestions like you really know.

I would like to make a suggestion to you and a few others that need this. That you keep an open mind, and stop assuming wrongly and making fallacious judgements about people, as if message board posts represents the narrow lens you are seeing through. That means killing that noise about somebody analyzing everything, because that's BS, supposedly not taking some things as they are, more BS. Or the assumption that whatever you are assuming amounts to someone being known as the mean gringo. Where is all of this coming from, were not in a war?

In addition, I get more appreciation and respect from real folks that I associate with, that it's off the chain. It's to the point that I can't keep up with many of them. Many folks remember me, even if I forgot them. I would take their friendship / comraderie in real life any day over individuals judging my supposed character based on words on a message board. You also have no clue the dominicans I associate with, in or outside of the p4 p game. You know why you don't know about that? Because you are too busy judging only from message board posts, and never bothered to ask So I can't take your suggestion seriously. What it really boils down to is this. If anyone does not like what I have to say, just don't read it. Don't analyze me, don't give me suggestions, just put me on ignore, or bypass my posts when you see my handle. It's just that simple. Take responsibility for your own non enjoyment of my posts. I'm not being mean spirited either, I'm being serious.

Lastly, even you professed to feeling different about certain individuals from this forum, after relating to them in person. You were wrong to judge them then, and you are wrong doing it now with me. You know what that suggests to me? You have not resolved a problem with putting people places and things in their proper perspective when it comes to message boards. Words on a screen do not depict someones life or character. I figured out long ago that it is unwise to judge a persons overall character or their comprehensive perspective from a message board. Why in 2016 with all of the information that we have explaining the futility with misjudging folks, that some folks just can't grasp that?

It appears you are losing it here bro and that was not my intention. You act like this is your first time posting and people can't see inside of you. Folks have gotten tired of the negative image you always try to bestow on street Dominicans. If you don't want the advice that's cool. I and several other posters have asked nicely that you become more balanced with your reporting but you refused with your typical blame it on others routine. I'm done because I can see you know it all and I'm just wasting my time. Hopefully one day you will re-visit my posts to learn something before the Dominicans have to teach you the hard way.

Good luck my friend.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;1959724]There is some prejudice against blacks in Spain, dating back to the Moorish Conquest, and all I can do about that is apologize, but US currency is all one color whereas euro notes are of many colors, so that in itself tells you something. You guys are talking about gringo pricing and mysterious charges on your bills, and I am thinking, why would anyone put up with that? In the DR you have high unemployment and low levels of education. In Spain you have high unemployment even among the more educated classes. Which situation will produce a better class of hookers? I will leave that up to you to decide.[/QUOTE]So Spanish soccer fans constantly doing monkey chants and throwing bananas at black players, F1 spectators donning black faces to mock Lewis Hamilton, were reactionary expressions against the Moorish conquest? That's an interesting interpretation.

I read TomJackin's Barcelona report, he spoke of getting ripped off (mysterious charge of US $780) on his credit card. The only sessions he described in details, with fondness, were with hookers from -- gasp -- the DR.

Incidentally, the only adult that begged for money from me in Sosua, was a Spaniard. He claimed he's stuck in the DR due to some misfortune and asked for money to fly back to Spain (probably so he could get back to the highly educated hookers). I saw him again a few months later, and he was still telling me the same tale. I couldn't tell though if he only begged from tourists or from locals as well.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1959754]I will respond on the Sosua thread because you dragged my name in here.

It was my first trip to Barcelona and Madrid, so no, I'm not a season vet in Spain. Before I went, I did a lot of research and here are my two reports:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=1907272[/URL]#post1907272.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=1904228[/URL]#post1904228.

I really liked both cites and thought the food was great, but I do not consider either city a good mongering place.

You have your opinion, and I have mine.[/QUOTE]Yes, if you go to the clubs, it's very expensive. I go to the brothels. I use the throwaway newspapers, and lately Craigslist. Taxis can add up fast, too. I use public transportation. The only time I've ever taken a cab in Spain was once when we had to catch a bus and the trolleys didn't start running early enough. That was in Sevilla. So one cab in a total of probably eight months in Spain. In Barcelona especially, the subway runs quite late, I think until almost two AM. No hookers on Las Ramblas. The cops chase them away. Plenty of dope dealers though. Not sure what you meant by high season in Barcelona. Summer time? 150 a night is quite high. I like to go to Spain in the spring and fall. Too hot for me in the summer. My apartment in Valencia was 50 euro a night, very nice, even had a washing machine. Pio XII apartments. This apartment I am in, in Madrid, is 55 euro a night, but only has a half-size fridge and a two burner stove. It's near the Antón Martín metro stop, which is unfortunately closed for repairs, but there a couple of other stops within walking distance, and buses. I found this apartment 'boots on the ground' last time I was here and stayed in touch with the owner.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;1959728]Why didn't you mention Medellin in Colombia, where the prices are so low it's hard to believe. I am in Medellin now, the weathers great, the women are beautiful, and you can get fucked for 30,000 CP = $ 10.[/QUOTE]Because I was talking about non-Third World destinations. Colombia is quite dangerous. I lived in Medellíand and had several issues in a short period of time, which is why I left. I agree the weather there is very good. I don't think the food is very good there either. The exchange rate was not as favorable at that time but yeah, you can get laid real cheap there. Or you can get killed.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;1959937]Because I was talking about non-Third World destinations. Colombia is quite dangerous. I lived in Medelland and had several issues in a short period of time, which is why I left. I agree the weather there is very good. I don't think the food is very good there either. The exchange rate was not as favorable at that time but yeah, you can get laid real cheap there. Or you can get killed.[/QUOTE]Well I have spent a lot of time in Medellin in the last couple of years and don't consider Colombia to be a third world country. I have not had any problems here, find the people to be amazing, and there is good food here but you have to know where to go, however it doesn't compare to most other places in the world. Yes it can be dangerous here, but I don't walk the streets of El Centro late at night even though I can pass as a Colombian.

I find it odd that you had so many problems there, especially being fluent in Spanish. If you have red and or blond hair and blue eyes, well that might explain part of the problem you had there. Spain sounds like it would be fun and is on my list!

[QUOTE=Dickhead;1959724]I'm inferring that you guys are implying that there is a lot of bullshit and drama, as well as avaricious and meretricious behavior going on in Sosa. I'd again invite you to consider Spain, where prices are transparent and the chances of someone trying to eat off of your plate are approximately asymptotic to zero. I am in Madrid now, and that is the second most expensive place in Spain for pussy, and it's still only 50 euro = $57 a half hour, and you don't got to buy them drinks or shit. Tom Jackin maybe was on his first trip to Spain, and hasn't responded about what venues he pursued, but I've been all over Latin Amrica and for a stay of a week or more, you dogs are barking up the wrong tree. And no crooked cops to think about, as that is a well-paying job in Spain, as is being a waiter. Imagine how much less bullshit you would go through if the answer to how much to tip was NEVER.

I'm just sayin' and I don't know who's black or white by reading the board (ja ja), but if you're black, go to southern Spain like Mlaga or Fuengirola, and if you are white go farther north. There is some prejudice against blacks in Spain, dating back to the Moorish Conquest, and all I can do about that is apologize, but US currency is all one color whereas euro notes are of many colors, so that in itself tells you something. You guys are talking about gringo pricing and mysterious charges on your bills, and I am thinking, why would anyone put up with that? In the DR you have high unemployment and low levels of education. In Spain you have high unemployment even among the more educated classes. Which situation will produce a better class of hookers? I will leave that up to you to decide.[/QUOTE]Going to Spain can be an option for someone wishing to explore something different. I think that is a good thing.

Personally I would pass on that option, because life in Sosua and the DR has been a great challenge for me from living in the US. It has been a journey complete with it's ups and downs, it's positives and it's negatives, And because of that, I am wise enough to know that you have to deal with the good and the bad just about every where you go. Now if somebody reading our discussions of certain negative aspects of Sosua, fails to grasp why someone would still want to come to Sosua or live here, that is completely on them. I can only think in one head. I don't feel what they feel, and I'm not subjected to anybody compartmentalizing what my life here supposedly represents to me. Especially since I am not a full time monger, absorbed with focusing my attention on women most of my day or nights. I have nothing against those that do, as I can definitely relate because I used to be a full time monger.

My role now is to provide a different perspective, but from ONE expats POV.

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1959845]It appears you are losing it here bro and that was not my intention. You act like this is your first time posting and people can't see inside of you. Folks have gotten tired of the negative image you always try to bestow on street Dominicans. If you don't want the advice that's cool. I and several other posters have asked nicely that you become more balanced with your reporting but you refused with your typical blame it on others routine. I'm done because I can see you know it all and I'm just wasting my time. Hopefully one day you will re-visit my posts to learn something before the Dominicans have to teach you the hard way.

Good luck my friend.[/QUOTE]Mr G, You already know what I think about what something "appears" to be. Or what I supposedly "act" like. Or claiming I "always" bestow a negative image of street dominicans. There is no such thing as always. That is your contrived reality, not mine. I already explained here that I have my own focuses I wish to address. I don't have to change what I choose to focus on just to appease a very small group of individuals you decide to be the spoke mans for. I'm asking nicely that you and whomever you claim has a problem, stop trying to dictate what others choose to post, and instead just ignore the posts you do not like.

It is easier for you and others to do your part, rather than trying to get one person to change for everybody that supposedly has a problem. What about those reading that do not have a problem with what I choose to discuss. And in fact appreciate the information? Are they less important than a few disgruntled posters? What about the ADMIN? I would expect that he is monitoring this forum, and perhaps sees some value in what I've shared about my POV of life in the DR and Sosua.

Lastly, I've been living here for almost 2 1/2 yrs consistently. Living among dominicans of all types, expats, and interacting with vacationers, dated a dominican from the states for 5 yrs. During the course of that relationship, traveled and learned her culture and more of her language, interacted with all of her friends and family, here and back in the states. Weve known each other personally for less than a month, you've never lived in the DR full time and really only focus most of your attention and time on mongering in the DR, and you are going to tell me that dominicans have to teach me the hard way?

Mr G, your intent is crystal clear for your recent remarks. I do not accept people pissing on me and telling me its raining. It is what it is. My advice stands. Mr Oakie has got it right. He took matters in his own hands, and put me on ignore. Since then, I haven't heard a peep out of him, and that's how we kept the peace. If it works for him it will work for anybody. So use that ignore button. , that's the best option. When I see you in person, we can be normal people without the drama.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1960055]Mr G, You already know what I think about what something "appears" to be. Or what I supposedly "act" like. Or claiming I "always" bestow a negative image of street dominicans. There is no such thing as always. That is your contrived reality, not mine. I already explained here that I have my own focuses I wish to address. I don't have to change what I choose to focus on just to appease a very small group of individuals you decide to be the spoke mans for. I'm asking nicely that you and whomever you claim has a problem, stop trying to dictate what others choose to post, and instead just ignore the posts you do not like.

It is easier for you and others to do your part, rather than trying to get one person to change for everybody that supposedly has a problem..[/QUOTE]My brother using the " Ignore " button is not a solution to anything. I have never in ten years used the ignore button and don't know how. You seem to think we really care about you checking a girl on the beach asking for food or a tout. It's much more you have to offer living in Sosua. I speak for many when I ask you for more balance but for some reason you don't want to comply. That's sad. It makes some think you are walking around Sosua with blinders on and only focusing on the street beggars and not seeing the pretty girls. Who moves to Sosua to check street beggars and hang with the " Bros "? That's all you have given us. This is my last post here responding to you until you give us some useful information.

In closing It would benefit you to grow on your inability to finesse the Dominicans. You live there and you cannot always hide in Sosua with the bros. Dominicans are not the enemy and you are not at war. I've wasted a lot of time going back and forth and you just won't get it. You are a highly intelligent guy so it confuses me why you can't get something so basic.