Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=AsianRider;2230359]Last month after diving in Key Largo travelled down to Medellin for a week. Watching Narcos TV series, and reading these trip reports it became a must place to visit! I stayed at Mansion 2, a converted house maybe a 100 m up the hill from Mansion 1 where the bar is downstairs. Room is functional with big mirror, easy to meet the others staying in the breakfast balcony, lounge area. All the Mansion staff were friendly, and every night ladies turned up at Mansion 1 bar downstairs. Most seemed to be requesting 200 k plus taxi. If they stayed all night, certainly wanted more. Girls were pretty but business like. There were banks and restaurants nearby. I had a great afternoon trip to Pablo Escobar museum and found it very interesting. Many things referred to in Narcos TV series you can see exhibited at the museum which is a former safe house run by Roberto Escobar after he served 14 years in jail. Back to the ladies. It helps if you can speak some Spanish, very few people seemed to speak English. Google translate is not sexy in bed LOL. My favourite places were Fantasia Energy. An hour was 150 k in a smart room with shower, girls do a walk-by and introduce themselves. New Life massage had a lot of girls and was much cheaper, time was charged in 15 minute increments once you were in the room 30 min was 50 k. A new massage shop which a Mansion driver took us to was "Divini Women" near New Life, had a prepaid menu system and some hot ladies, but no aircon in the room. Fase 2 and La Isla were strip clubs with some hot girls. After a dance you gave the girl a nominal dollar tip, and buy them a drink if you are interested. Entry fee was 10,000.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you had a great time. Also thanks for mentioning the PE Museum now I want to check it out. I'll be there in 10 days or so splitting my time between the mansion and a nice condo near Parque Lleras. Thanks for the concise FR.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2230505]I always read that you don't need Spanish if you stay at Mansion, or stay at Mansion if you can't speak Spanish. This guy stayed at Mansion but mentions needing Spanish, I'm confused.[/QUOTE]I think some of the staff speak English but most the girls don't I'd guess.

45 K an hour? Most Colombians would kill for that much money.

[QUOTE=ShawMan74;2230384]Yes, he is the tour guide who helped me, the GOOD one, not the one you mentioned in your quote of my report. The chica help I listed is all we did because its all I wanted to do. Willi custom-tailors the experience for each client, so no two excursions are going to be exactly alike. He has such an encyclopedic knowledge, I would point at a random buildings or small houses while we were touring the city, and without missing a beat he would give me a storied history of the place. IMHO if you wanted something more underground or off the beaten path, he would be the first source to ask.

$45.000 COP / hour flat rate. Willi didn't pass a charge on to me for anything, didn't hustle for tips, nothing. Incredibly professional.

None of the casas asked me for anything. No surcharges or extras.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2226423]If you are hitting the Centro strip clubs besides Conejitas the other 2 big ones are Barra Ejectiva and right next door Maracaibo. Barra has more girls of those two. They are only a few blocks from Conejitas.[/QUOTE]Yeah, man. I checked these out last night and see what you mean. Tons of talent. Going to post a mini-report momentarily.

I had a chance to check out these two places last night (Sat). Even though I live in Medellin, I just discovered ISG so they were somehow unknown to me. Bigs up to all who have posted about them previously.

I started at Maracaibo, and I was impressed with the talent, although it was a little too early, and the ladies were still coming in. I had a drink but the grass is always greener, especially when it's two doors away, so I left to check out Barra Ejecutiva. Again, it was early, around 7:30 (even though I'm younger, that tends to be more my style unless I'm with friends). Nonetheless, there was a ton of talent on display and it kept pouring in. I can't imagine there's not at least an 8 there no matter what your personal scale is. I saw plenty. My plan was to stick around for awhile and drink, but after a couple I was persuaded to session with a stacked chica for 70 K plus 15 K for the room. That seems to be about the going rate. Chica had great energy and agreed to let me fuck her tits without a condom and finish there for an unspecified tip. I had so much fun I splurged for an extra 30 minutes and eventually blasted all over her tits, neck, and hair (oops). She wanted her tip but I was like, no, the extra 30 minutes (of which we used like 10) is the tip, and she accepted that with aplomb.

Ah, she might not be the brightest bulb in the book, because she mistook me for a Colombiano when she first sat down, which is perhaps the nicest thing anybody has ever said about me.

My only complaint is one that I've read on this forum before: the room at Barra Ejecutiva was terribly hot. Install AC in one room and charge and extra 15 K for it. Watch how popular it becomes and go from there. Shit.

(There was no cover at either of these places.).

I'll certainly return often.

I opted out of Medellin. Anywhere the P4 P scene gets institutionalized prices go up, service goes down. I'll take a semi-pro anytime over a hard core cash girl.

Luna lunera. Go only after 9 pm, otherwise it will only be a waste of time.

Barra ejevtivo.

Lots of implants. Only a few will be natural. 9 mil for water, 10 mil for beer. The locals don't even tip the dancers. Foreigners tip 2 mil when dancers come by.

La Isla.

High end place. Again lots of implants, rare to find naturals. Even one tips the dancers 2 mil. Dances are really short. Atmosphere is good and isn't too crowded. The staff appears very professional.

If you stay at the Mansion you don't need to know Spanish. The women know why you are there. It is a gringo spot, the services are generally ok, But, from my understandng most of the girls there want 200 K to 250 K for a single pop. I will let someone else confirm that. I went there for a night once years ago just out of curiosity. I will not return as I found it to be overpriced and if you can speak Spanish, you have no reason to stay there.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2230505]I always read that you don't need Spanish if you stay at Mansion, or stay at Mansion if you can't speak Spanish. This guy stayed at Mansion but mentions needing Spanish, I'm confused.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2230654]45 K an hour? Most Colombians would kill for that much money.[/QUOTE]Yeah, but most colombians aren't running their own business like that. Employees have luxuries owners don't. Willi is taking the risk, he is paying for the downtime when he is not on job (which is VERY rare, everything is at least a day out with him) he is paying the insurance, and the gas, he is maintaining his own fleet and putting in the labor to keep everything nice and clean for customers. Not to mention its his knowledge you are paying for and his research. He does not call off the game on account of weather. Our campfire hike is a good example. He brought the groceries, and precooked the potatoes so they would get done reliably, and he brought coals and a grill, so we didn't have to rely on the fire if conditions got too wet. We were at a place that had a variety on trail conditions to meet the level of challenge I could accommodate, it was out in a very diverse / high quality nature park. And he told me if push came to shove, based on all the factors, we could convert the outing into a fishing trip. And there were other trails nearby that we hit as well, that only locals might know about. He always had a plan A, be, and see, even with stuff like traffic on his touring. This is the level of preparation he does for everything and the level of knowledge / skill he has to be able to do it. Totally worth it, he has my full recommendation.

[QUOTE=Kafka;2230702]I opted out of Medellin. Anywhere the P4 P scene gets institutionalized prices go up, service goes down. I'll take a semi-pro anytime over a hard core cash girl.[/QUOTE]I understand when something gets played out, and becomes more of a fraud than anything else (thailand, netherlands) but all the talent is in the commercialized / legalized areas. Its a balance. I've learned this the hard way (see my posts in Buenos Aires forum). If you're looking for a real stunner, a 8+, you're not going to find it off the dusty trail, she is going to be on the well beaten path looking for gringo money and safety from the state. This is clearly witnessed in the difference of quality to be found between Cali and medellin. Medellin girls blow Cali out of the water, and the few stunners in Cali usually came from medellin for a reason. Otherwise the real talent goes running to medellin by any means necessary, her gifts / value are wasted in the small towns. HER availability in the first place is courtesy of legalization and her price is wonderful only by dint of the exchange rate.

[QUOTE=ShawMan74;2230767]If you're looking for a real stunner, a 8+, you're not going to find it off the dusty trail, she is going to be on the well beaten path looking for gringo money and safety from the state.[/QUOTE]I beg to differ. You say that as if they get their start in the big leagues. Nobody goes from playing stickball in their backyard straight to the major leagues. While others have disagreed, I have said time and time again that chicks in Pattaya, Thailand will start off at the $30 Soi 6 places that most guys go to and say all the chicks are undesirable. From there they move up the ladder to other venues.

The other day one regular poster said that he went into one of the most expensive places and saw a chick working there that he had fucked at one of the cheap places a couple years back.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2229629]Some of you who are Soi 6 regulars will know this girl Tukta. I must have bonked her at least thrice when she used to work at Soi 6. Butterfly Bar if I remember right. I have not seen her in 2 years and it has been over a year that I visited Pattaya. And now she magically pops up at. Hold your breath. Sapphire. Now that is some serious upgrade. [/QUOTE]But you would recommend the used rental car lot route? Wait until many people have rented them and dogged them out, then pick them up in the more popular venues when they are overpriced.

Here yee Here yee! Why is there so much disagreement on the board, LOL. I love this place. Love it so much, I actually rented 3 rooms, 3 different locations. Won't complain about prices call most of the board are pro's and get girls at the cheapest rates. So in this report I will allow you to see what a $18/ day room looks like, what a $30/ day room looks like, and what a $58/ day room looks like. The girls are plenty, but I have my own stable, and I like the centro girls. Just my own liking. I am actually seeing many skinny girls on this trip, as I come to find out many guys are looking for spinners and petite girls. I'm a ass man myself. But as a good monger I switched it up just to see what the rave was about all the skinny girls? I am seeing at least 3 girls daily, plus my girlfriend, and one of her cousins. I did eat my Wheaties and drank my Gatorade. I will be posting a few pics on my next few posts. If you feel you're paying too much, you have 2 choices. 1. Find a cheaper date. 2. Bring more coins on the next trip! Complaining about cost in Colombia tells everyone on the board a whole lot. I'm not saying be a fool. I am saying, put in the ground work and you will lower your costs significantly! Pollonegro is out!

[QUOTE=ShawMan74;2230767]Yeah, but most colombians aren't running their own business like that. Employees have luxuries owners don't. Willi is taking the risk, he is paying for the downtime when he is not on job (which is VERY rare, everything is at least a day out with him) he is paying the insurance, and the gas, he is maintaining his own fleet and putting in the labor to keep everything nice and clean for customers. Not to mention its his knowledge you are paying for and his research. He does not call off the game on account of weather. Our campfire hike is a good example. He brought the groceries, and precooked the potatoes so they would get done reliably, and he brought coals and a grill, so we didn't have to rely on the fire if conditions got too wet. We were at a place that had a variety on trail conditions to meet the level of challenge I could accommodate, it was out in a very diverse / high quality nature park. And he told me if push came to shove, based on all the factors, we could convert the outing into a fishing trip. And there were other trails nearby that we hit as well, that only locals might know about. He always had a plan A, be, and see, even with stuff like traffic on his touring. This is the level of preparation he does for everything and the level of knowledge / skill he has to be able to do it. Totally worth it, he has my full recommendation..[/QUOTE]You're both right. Most Colombians would be thrilled with 45 k per hour. At that rate, he only needs to work 25-30 hours per week to live well, after paying gas and maintenance. However, if you're looking for someone who can handle everything you described and you're comfortable with the price, it's a good deal.

As for the 8+ women only being found at the top venues, you missed completely. If you want to pay the highest price, usually for the lowest service, go to the hottest girls at the top sites. If you would rather get girls just as hot, with better service at a much lower price, you have to look elsewhere. Head up into the hills some time. Take a walk through the estrato 2 neighborhoods. You'll find plenty of 8, 9 and 10 girls who aren't playing the gringo game. They aren't going to be point and click, but if you can handle a conversation, there are plenty of opportunities.

I'm a little less confused now, thanks. I'm not curious enough to visit but my remaining confusion is about the women knowing why you are there being. Isn't that true of any other venue like strip clubs, casas, and Lleras bars. I think the part about it being a gringo spot is the attraction for some. As best I can tell, that is what sets it apart. It's just me but I doubt I will ever understand the value proposition. We all have to find our happy places.

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2230746]If you stay at the Mansion you don't need to know Spanish. The women know why you are there. It is a gringo spot, the services are generally ok, But, from my understandng most of the girls there want 200 K to 250 K for a single pop. I will let someone else confirm that. I went there for a night once years ago just out of curiosity. I will not return as I found it to be overpriced and if you can speak Spanish, you have no reason to stay there.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2230777]I beg to differ. You say that as if they get their start in the big leagues. Nobody goes from playing stickball in their backyard straight to the major leagues. While others have disagreed, I have said time and time again that chicks in Pattaya, Thailand will start off at the $30 Soi 6 places that most guys go to and say all the chicks are undesirable. From there they move up the ladder to other venues.

The other day one regular poster said that he went into one of the most expensive places and saw a chick working there that he had fucked at one of the cheap places a couple years back.

But you would recommend the used rental car lot route? Wait until many people have rented them and dogged them out.[/QUOTE]I've seen it again and again, the hotter Centro casa girls graduating to places like Energy or Loutron. Two Venezuelan friends I've known for a year recently moved from a Centro strip club to Fase Dos. Can be hard to bring yourself to pay three times as much for the same girl that may not look quite as good as the life takes it's toll.

Have also seen the same in San Jose, Costa Rica with the move from the MPs to the Del Rey.

Same girl, triple the price though in this case some go back and forth daily.

Allow me to explain the cell phone game of Colombia to members of the board. If you turn on a Cell Phone in Colombia using Tigo, you have 30 days to register it or Tigo puts a permanent block on the IEMI number, then the phone is useless in Colombia, trust me, I've been through the fiasco of trying to get my phone unblocked by the official Tigo office. Foreigners cannot register phones in Colombia without a Cedula. End of story. I have my Colombian cellphone registered to my Colombian girlfriend's name, I've had too many phones blocked over the last 8 months. So far, I've been using claro recently and I've been able to keep the phone on with the same number for the last months, I still receive text messages telling me to register the phone or risk having the phone blocked. I know the cell phone business in Colombia up, down, round, & inside out. Have deep pockets & patience if you want to enter that game. Imagine, if unauthorized persons in Colombia bought a shipment of cellphones and just turned them on, it would counter set the cellphone market and make police job incredibly hard. In an effort to stop this from happening, if you do not register the phone in 30 days, the cellphone companies block the entire phone. Another hurdle, if you bring a phone into Colombia from somewhere else, in order to register it, you will need a factura. Good luck getting one for under $80 mil pesos. The alternative to this is going into an official Tigo, Claro, Movilstar office & buy a phone directly from them, then they know the phone is good, it will be registered right then and there and the Colombian government will have fleeced you just like they do the Colombians. Do I know anything about phones in Colombia? Huh, you can bet your bottom dollar I do. Plus when you register the phone officially, you leave the office & 4 hours later your phone may or may not work, especially if it came from outside of Colombia. What do I do? I bring a different unlocked phone with the box everytime I come to Colombia, & before I leave, I sell the phone for $300-$400 mil pesos. Just make sure you have a Samsung or Old iphone, Colombians will buy them hands down. Pollo negro is out!