Sosua Reports

[QUOTE=Frannie;1961450] There are plenty of people on these boards living off inherited money, government retirement pensions, military retirement, law enforcement retirement, disability pensions, and who have benefited from government grants and loans for their own education, have retired with Medicare insurance, but they don't want to talk about this (which is understandable for reasons of confidentiality) and would rather badmouth Dominicans and Haitians for being born with fewer economic and educational opportunities, probably because it makes them feel superior.[/QUOTE]Probably not too many with inheritance but quite a large number of Military, Police, Firefighters beneficiaries et al, I would think and disabilities are a big time scam as is well known. "There but for the grace of God, go I" - would be more relevant, one would think.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1961577]I got a wonderful breakfast for 150 pesos (about 4 dollars US money). There was bacon, fresh eggs, fried potatoes, fruit salad with five types of fresh fruit, three types of breads, jam, butter, cafe con leche, a glass of water. Much better than any breakfast I can find in the US even at double or triple the price. But I never saw local Dominicans eating there, only tourists and their companions, and I am sure that the reason was that the price was still way out of the budget of average working Dominicans.[/QUOTE]Or possibly they just don't like the food. Do they have salami, mangu and avocado? Dominicans will choose those over bacon and croissants. Likewise at the hotels I stayed in China, rice porridge and steamed buns are always more popular than sausage and scrambled eggs.

In Sosua I eat almost exclusively at the Dominican restaurant near City Light. It's always busy with locals, meals are around 200 pesos.

The DR has been getting pummeled with a lot of rain this rainy season. I believe we've had consistent rain daily and nightly for over 3 weeks straight (particularly in Sosua) With perhaps 3 or 4 dry mornings and afternoons. But eventually by early evening it rains again. Many folks from around the world are getting reports of severe flooding in many areas throughout the DR. But not everywhere are people experiencing devastating consequences.

The good thing here in Sosua, is, many guys are making the best of all of this damn rain. People have adapted by moving about when the rain stops for a little while. By the time it picks back up again, they might be at their destination already. If not, they wait the rain out and move when the coast is clear.

The rain has definitely had some affect on beach time. Beach goers have gone to the beach, and eventually had to deal with major down pours. Having to seek refuge inside of restaurants and bars. Noticeably the beach has been baron on very cloudy days. Assuming folks do not care to be caught in the rain.

Hung out at Flame Bar last night. Flame Bar used to be called Winners Circle. Before, the bar used to be in the center of the room. This time it is off to the right with stools. Around the perimeter are more stools, and on the left side and rear are some soft lounge couches.

It was a buddies birthday. He originally tried to have his party up in Classicos, but ended up at the Flame Bar. I like it, because it was a cozier atmosphere than I think Classicos would have been. Plus, I don't go to Classicos anyway, so it suit me just fine. Of course where potential clients go, the women will follow. So every now and then, women came by to investigate for themselves.

We all chipped in for food, drink and a cake. The bartenders were very nice, and also were a part of our celebration.

I have to say, Sosua's talent (and I only mean volume and attractiveness) has picked up since earlier this year. There are always new chicas coming to Sosua seeking work. And like many, these are the ones guys like to check out before they become hardcore. I was out Saturday Night for a little while, and Bourbon Street was full with chicas. Went to Merengue Bar, and that place almost had no available seats. It reminded me of 5 years ago, before they put up the windows and doors outside each bar. There were wall to wall chicas. A guy had his pick of available attractive chicas. It was lively, it was jumping.

Normally I prefer tranquility, and I would usually be home with my own company early evening. But that night was really refreshing seeing that Sosua is not losing itself, just re inventing itself. Of course, it should be noted, that just because there are a lot of nice looking chicas, and many are ready and available, that does not mean that all of these chicas will go with a guy if he doesn't meet their financial expectations.

I have talked to quite a few guys and many have claimed they have run into women that have expectations of getting paid 3000 for an hour, 5000 for an hour, up to a couple of hundred dollars for ST or TLN. Even average looking women are coming at guiys like that. Many not budging either. Over a month ago a cute Haitian chica quoted me 6000 for TLN, then switched to 4000. I declined both offers, and now she has an attitude. But she never stops getting clients, and guys have heard her high expectations like I have.

Of course some instances it's just the chicas trying to negotiate high and hoping to settle somewhere next to their expectations. However, a lot of guys do not negotiate. A guy offers her a reasonable price, and the chica gives them some ridiculous high price, they will just walk away. And that's even after the chica immediately comes down. For some guys they figure a chica not getting her original price, may compensate her sense of loss by providing crappy service. For some guys, if a chica only went up 500 pesos from his offer that chica might of had some business. But it also may depend on how she comes at the guy when she addresses it and / or how much the guy wants the girl.

I think Mr E was in town almost 2 months ago? We sat at Bourbon Street ( on the strip ) and I watched him stop and briefly interview several chicas, and almost all of them had some high ass price / expectations. And enough of them wouldn't even budge or negotiate. They just walked off, almost as if they were insulted that he wasn't willing to pay them what they wanted. . I got to see/hear that devilish laugh he's got after they gave him their figure. In fact, that might be more of why they walked off in a huff, than learning what he was willing to pay. Eventually after going through enough of them, he found one that made the cut.

Good read, thanks for posting. Mr E probably told the Chica's to pay him just to play with them. Surprised at the starting prices but with the rain maybe girls will become more reasonable. It's funny because we have beautiful weather here in Florida but I can't wait to get to the DR and the rain in a couple days LOL.

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1962258]Good read, thanks for posting. Mr E probably told the Chica's to pay him just to play with them. Surprised at the starting prices but with the rain maybe girls will become more reasonable. It's funny because we have beautiful weather here in Florida but I can't wait to get to the DR and the rain in a couple days LOL.[/QUOTE]I have several theories to why some of these chicas are quoting high prices. Anybody else can weigh in.

1) In the last 2 or 3 yrs, a lot more chicas are driving cars now. Many if not most bought by foreigners. Many of these same men are spending big bucks to maintain these women as well. Other chicas see this, as well as chicas sharing intel with other chicas how they bagged a "rich" foreigner. The idea, is that these chicas know there is a lot of money at our disposal. And they know that enough of us cant wait to give it away, given the opportunity.

2) IMO a lot of chicas are not humble in the game as you or I may remember from years past. Where chicas seemed more appreciative and grateful if they were chosen. Enough of these chicas today act like they are doing you a favor by giving you the time of day. I heard enough talk about the value of them sharing their pussy with a man. In other words, enough chicas have got the big head. Swollen, acting like they are all that.

By now many guys have heard of the infamous Daniela. She has gotten quite thick after she had her daughter a few years ago. She's kinda bounced back, looks good if you like them thick like that. But she has been taken care of by men for a number of years. Learned English, drives her SUV and who knows what else she has going for herself. My point is, she does not sell herself cheap. She comes off as her pussy is super valuable. And if you want to have some, you got to pay.

A guy I know just told me that he used to kick it with her a lot. And recently he had tried to hook up and she let him know that he had to come up with 5000 pesos in order to play. All that past history didn't mean jack. She requires at least 5000 pesos. Even though he said she will fuck the shit out of you, he declined. Nevertheless, she must get what she expects, because I see her in BS with clients all the time. Funny to me, is seeing her drive off in her SUV with her captured prey.

You can best believe a lot of the better looking chicas, they definietly have the big head about their pussy value. And have no problem telling a monger some ridiculous price for their time / pussy.

3) Enough chicas are simply learning from other chicas. Taking whatever information or lessons in on how they should go about their hustle. Enough have learned that they can get their price moreso than being turned down. And besides, if enough of these chicas have a quota for lets say a month, they can easily manage that. They may not have to have a bunch of clients per day or week. Another thing is, enough of these chicas especially the good looking ones, they already have WU novios sending them money. So they arent completely broke. Coming to Sosua may be just to earn pocket change, socialize and mentor other chicas.

IMO there are chicas that are broke, because they arent getting any business, and there are chicas pretending to be broke. Those are the types that can get sympathy money off of foreigners. In addition, enough chicas save money by keeping their money while spending the foreigners money. Every pesos counts. So if a chica can get food, drinks, groceries, gifts, money from sob stories, all of that can be applied to lets say her rent at one of the local hotels they stay at.

4) BS has pretty much taken over Rumbas function. But unlike Rumba bar or the restaurant, Bourbon Street can be perceived as an "upscale" restaurant. Some of the pricier items on the menu are 750 and up. And chicas see plenty of guys having no problems or reservations spending that kind of money on what they want to eat and drink. And from that, may assume that we can afford paying $100 for some pussy, even if it's only an hour. Guys buying 250 peso meals from Rumba restaurant may not give these chicas the same impression. Of course we cant under estimate the impact of chicas seeing us manage the expense of hotels,car rentals, flights, dining, paying for pussy, the expensive stuff we bring on vacation, and anything else.

If you pay attention what chicas order at BS it's usually, cervezas (grande or pequena) , soda, maybe a mixed drink, a plate of french fries, or a plate of garlic bread. Thats what most will spend to justify taking up a seat in BS. If they can eye lash bat and flirt with a guy into inviting them to his table to eat or drink, it's better for them. It seems a lot of guys are learning that game, and aren't quick to be buying food or drinks just because some chick smiled at them. I have to say, a lot of the chicas that hang out in BS kinda look a little frustrated and desperate while hoping to snag a client. When they do though, them muggs look happy as hell, especially when they are walking out with them. They have that "LOOK AT ME YA'LL I HAVE A CUSTOMER. " "Hold my seat girl, I just might be back shortly. " "Order another round of garlic bread, on me".

Any word what is going up in D'latin's old space?

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1962358]I have several theories to why some of these chicas are quoting high prices. Anybody else can weigh in.


You can best believe a lot of the better looking chicas, they definietly have the big head about their pussy value. And have no problem telling a monger some ridiculous price for their time / pussy.


[/QUOTE]It has always been that way when men pay women for sex. The correct price for pussy is what the market will stand. Like airlines. The exact same seat on the exact same plane on the exact same route might be double the price 24 hours later if there is greater demand or the flight arrives at a more convenient time, or with less connection time.

Either chicas are giving high estimated quotes because they think they can get close to those prices, or they are quoting prices that they don't think they will get, because they would just as soon pass on that particular customer unless he wants to make her an offer she cannot refuse. However like airline seats, you may get better deals on last minute deals, or deals at odd times of day, or if there are cancellations. Or if you work for the airline.

It seems logical that better-looking chicas would be looking for higher prices than more average or ugly chicas, since sexual attraction is usually related to physical attractiveness. You also have to take into account that looking better also costs more in terms of salon care, dental care (if needed), hooker costumes, and so on, so the better looking chicas will probably have a higher overhead.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1961934]Probably not too many with inheritance but quite a large number of Military, Police, Firefighters beneficiaries et al, I would think and disabilities are a big time scam as is well known. "There but for the grace of God, go I" - would be more relevant, one would think.[/QUOTE]You are right that probably very few have inherited money, but most a pretty cagey about revealing their source of income, which is entirely understandable, but then when you get into discussions about the cost of living in the DR, it is not always easy to know how much people are trying to live on. For example, a single man in the New York City or Miami areas who had a modest home with the mortgage paid off may be able to sell it and buy a palatial residence in the DR with the proceeds, giving Dominicans the appearance of great wealth, when he was just an ordinary Joe in New York or Miami.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1962655]It has always been that way when men pay women for sex. The correct price for pussy is what the market will stand. Like airlines. The exact same seat on the exact same plane on the exact same route might be double the price 24 hours later if there is greater demand or the flight arrives at a more convenient time, or with less connection time.

Either chicas are giving high estimated quotes because they think they can get close to those prices, or they are quoting prices that they don't think they will get, because they would just as soon pass on that particular customer unless he wants to make her an offer she cannot refuse. However like airline seats, you may get better deals on last minute deals, or deals at odd times of day, or if there are cancellations. Or if you work for the airline.

It seems logical that better-looking chicas would be looking for higher prices than more average or ugly chicas, since sexual attraction is usually related to physical attractiveness. You also have to take into account that looking better also costs more in terms of salon care, dental care (if needed), hooker costumes, and so on, so the better looking chicas will probably have a higher overhead.[/QUOTE]Using your airline example, but from an aware mongers potential perspective, there are a lot of airlines in the p4 p industry, as opposed to aviation. And that means a monger can choose to fly any puta airline that meets his budget, and accommodations.

Each p4 p airline can adjust their fares accordingly because of their alleged overhead (salon, uniforms, medical / dental and so on). They generally do that because they are in competition ( with other puta airlines ) for the mongers business. But their expenses/overhead isn't the mongers problem or concern. Mongers don't typically care how much women pay with their own money, to beautify themselves.

We don't generally see mongers in the salon advising putas on how they should wear their hair, or what clothes they should put on to attract business. That is all on them what they feel they need to do, hoping to stand out from their competition.

So a puta airline can pay all of those expenses and try to pass that expense over to the monger. And a monger can say, thanks but no thanks. I have other options. There are too many other puta airlines out here to choose from. And of course a puta airline can bag another monger more than willing to meet her price.

What most aware mongers probably want that ranks just as high as appearance, is good fucking service. Because all of that beautification doesn't mean a damn thing if a monger can't get the service that comes with the look. And that is what enough of these egotistical airlines fail to grasp. They come up with ridiculous prices, but enough often fail to provide the service the customer was hoping he was paying for.

Yeah a particular puta airline might get a mongers business that one time because of a decent presentation. But if the service was shitty or non existent, they aren't likely to get repeat business or good references. If anything poor reviews may circulate resulting in losing potential business. That goes for the attractive ones, the ugly ones and anyone in between.

After talking to enough mongers. Many prefer a non flashy puta airline that provides a decent presentation and outstanding service (worth giving repeat business to) than an airline spending a grip on a facade with no substance behind it. A puta airline surviving mostly on new customers instead of new and repeat business, may say a lot about the kind of service one might expect from them.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1963146] But their expenses/overhead isn't the mongers problem or concern. Mongers don't typically care how much women pay with their own money, to beautify themselves.

We don't generally see mongers in the salon advising putas on how they should wear their hair, or what clothes they should put on to attract business. That is all on them what they feel they need to do, hoping to stand out from their competition. [/QUOTE]Yes, but mongers can, if they wish, apply a bit of common sense, like using an airport with lower taxes like Santiago, rather than Puerto Plata so as to save money.

[QUOTE]What most aware mongers probably want that ranks just as high as appearance, is good fucking service. [/QUOTE]I don't know how many times I have to explain this. The girls you meet in the DR are not licensed professional with mission statements about customer service. They are just on the street to meet a short term or medium term financial goal, like making the payment for their phone tomorrow, buying a medication, paying back money borrowed from a friends, or sending home so many pesos at the end of the week. Believe me, they are not wracking their brains thinking about how to make Wrx2005 a repeat customer. They are thinking about the 3000 pesos they need by tomorrow.

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Yeah a particular puta airline might get a mongers business that one time because of a decent presentation. But if the service was shitty or non existent, they aren't likely to get repeat business or good references. If anything poor reviews may circulate resulting in losing potential business. That goes for the attractive ones, the ugly ones and anyone in between. [/QUOTE]Well, there are different models for prostitution. Some may prefer using their looks to get expensive one-offs, others may prefer using their personality and sexual skills to get repeat business. A lot of men are not interested in repeat business, because sexual excitement is often related to curiosity and the novelty of a new partner. Personally I have often repeated a second time with someone I really liked, but less frequently a third time, and even less frequently a fourth time, because by then, as the late BB King would have said, the thrill was gone.

[QUOTE] A puta surviving mostly on new customers instead of new and repeat business, may say a lot about the kind of service one might expect from them.[/QUOTE]Quite so, she probably doesn't care very much for the company of sex tourists outside of their ATM role. So use your skills and avoid her.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1963175]I don't know how many times I have to explain this. The girls you meet in the DR are not licensed professional with mission statements about customer service. They are just on the street to meet a short term or medium term financial goal, like making the payment for their phone tomorrow, buying a medication, paying back money borrowed from a friends, or sending home so many pesos at the end of the week. Believe me, they are not wracking their brains thinking about how to make Wrx2005 a repeat customer. They are thinking about the 3000 pesos they need by tomorrow.[/QUOTE]Exactly when did desiring good service indicate or imply a monger expects a woman to be or perform like a licensed professional? Better yet. Explain the difference between the good services I'm referring to, VS the good services of the licensed professionals you are referring to? Since I'm sure you do not have a clue, maybe you ought to realize what I said has very little to do with your statement.

[QUOTE]Well, there are different models for prostitution. Some may prefer using their looks to get expensive one-offs, others may prefer using their personality and sexual skills to get repeat business. A lot of men are not interested in repeat business, because sexual excitement is often related to curiosity and the novelty of a new partner. Personally I have often repeated a second time with someone I really liked, but less frequently a third time, and even less frequently a fourth time, because by then, as the late BB King would have said, the thrill was gone.

Quite so, she probably doesn't care very much for the company of sex tourists outside of their ATM role. So use your skills and avoid her.[/QUOTE]True a lot of men may not be interested in repeat business, but many men DO value repeat business as well as enjoy having regulars. Women don't become regulars (to mongers) because they are consistent in providing lousy service. Many if not most chicas in the p4 p game, they have demonstrated that THEY DO want repeat business. They do value references, and they do value being someones regular.

So just because a woman may be dense, uneducated, non professional, non licensed or not wracking their brains, only thinking about the money. Those not getting repeat business or good references, or elevated to regular status, they are the ones who will have to deal with the consequences for their ignorance, selfishness, prima donna attitude, or whatever their deficiency may be.

See, I'm not a female / woman apologist or sympathizer. I support the notion, that if a woman wants or needs something in life, from other people, then she needs to earn it, just like men are always expected to earn. Not having training or education on how to be a successful puta is no excuse for not being able to figure out what it may take to keep the business flowing.

They ( women ) have a right to be selective in what types of things they do, and who they do it with. They might be having a bad day, or not feeling like doing this or that. But if they fail or fall short, they only have themselves to blame. For the most part, most of these women only have a short window of opportunity to work with anyway. At some point in time, their value will plummet a lot faster than the mongers they wish to continue getting business from.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1963175]A lot of men are not interested in repeat business, because sexual excitement is often related to curiosity and the novelty of a new partner.[/QUOTE]Let\s expand on other possibilities. A lot of men are not interested in repeat business because sexual excitement or interest is often related to the impression and type of business that was provided the 1st time. A lot of chicas lose the opportunity for repeat business because their initial business opportunity failed to produce the results that might give a man reason to repeat. Which may mean the man's curiosity may still be intact, but his interest in repeating in order to satisfy that curiosity is non existent. Many men have aborted sexual encounters with chicas, because the 1st encounter was enough warning not to waste time or money on them again.

Moreover, that same individual may share with others, who in turn may take his information / experience under advisement, and leave that chica alone as well. In other words, in order to get repeat business, a chica may need to get past her 1st business encounter. Especially if she may want or expects some man to repeat with her. It's common knowledge enough DR chicas in the p4 p game are clueless or just plain dumb. I've seen many chicas try to get repeat business from guys they turned off, gave bad or mediocre service to, stole from the guy, gave the dude a hard time, talking or texting too much on their cell phones, a whole bunch of shit. And then got the nerve to catch an attitude because some guy doesn't want to be bothered.

[QUOTE]Personally I have often repeated a second time with someone I really liked, but less frequently a third time, and even less frequently a fourth time, because by then, as the late BB King would have said, the thrill was gone.[/QUOTE]Makes sense. But it is also a fact for enough men, that absence makes the dick grow fonder. You stop fucking a chica you thoroughly enjoyed, let's say for a few weeks or a few months, the dick will reset it's interest in that pussy in order to experience what it missed. Upon return, that pussy and the thrill of hitting it, will be like brand spanking new.

The lesson here, is don't under estimate the value repeat business is to these p4 p chicas. Garnering repeat business is more necessary than some of these chicas may realize. Enough DR p4 p chicas are very foolish in that regard. Some get it and some don't. Thats why I like hearing stories from other mongers, of how many of the Brazilian and Colombian women view their role when they are in the p4 p game. Many take pride in what they do while they are earning. And enough feel it's their duty to make sure their partners are satisfied. And if not, many desire to do what it takes to facilitate satisfaction. Resulting in more potential for repeat business.

But here in the DR? There seems to be more indifference in the attitudes of enough DR women than concern of pleasing their partners. Of course much depends on the individuals. But I'm sure there are enough men reading this, that can relate to what I'm saying.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1963392]Thats why I like hearing stories from other mongers, of how many of the Brazilian and Colombian women view their role when they are in the p4 p game. Many take pride in what they do while they are earning. And enough feel it's their duty to make sure their partners are satisfied. And if not, many desire to do what it takes to facilitate satisfaction. Resulting in more potential for repeat business.

But here in the DR? There seems to be more indifference in the attitudes of enough DR women than concern of pleasing their partners. Of course much depends on the individuals. But I'm sure there are enough men reading this, that can relate to what I'm saying.[/QUOTE]And that was the knockout punch. Guys that know Colombia and Brazil can attest to how shitty DR service is. Guys that don't know make excuses for DR putas whose shitty level of service would not last 1 day in Colombia or Brazil. For some reason in DR I see the level of service inverse to the price. Cheap ass GBP in Santo Domingo has the best service to me.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1963420]And that was the knockout punch. Guys that know Colombia and Brazil can attest to how shitty DR service is. Guys that don't know make excuses for DR putas whose shitty level of service would not last 1 day in Colombia or Brazil. For some reason in DR I see the level of service inverse to the price. Cheap ass GBP in Santo Domingo has the best service to me.[/QUOTE]Imma beat them to the punch. We both know, somebody is probably thinking and come back with "Well if you don't like the service DR women put out, then why do you keep dealing with them, why not just go to Brazil or Colombia where you can get the service you claim to want?"

Answer: Because nobody is claiming they didn't or don't like the service that all DR women put out. And nobody said all DR women act or perform the same. What is being addressed does not apply to ALL DR women, only to those that fits the criteria / information. Those that don't fit the criteria, they are not the ones anyone is concerned about. .

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