[QUOTE=Hiihii;1542340]Its hard for me to believe they sell right out in open.[/QUOTE]Really? I have had them come up to me as I pass Soi 13 and ask me if I want to buy various drugs. Used to happen in the Soi 3 and 5 area as well.
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[QUOTE=Hiihii;1542340]Its hard for me to believe they sell right out in open.[/QUOTE]Really? I have had them come up to me as I pass Soi 13 and ask me if I want to buy various drugs. Used to happen in the Soi 3 and 5 area as well.
[QUOTE=Hiihii; 1542340]So say I want to buy drugs from a nigerian. Whats the procedure? Does he take me to a secret place? Do I need password? Reference?
Its hard for me to believe they sell right out in open. In fact I hardly ever see anyone chatting to nigerians other than other nigerians. LOL.
Wouldn't it be safer to buy drugs from a Thai?[/QUOTE]While Meth and coke and other party drugs can are are sold locally, in regard to Heroin the Nigerians primarily use Bangkok as a pass thru to the USA and were cited as one of the most critical links a decade back in this NY Times article.
[url]http://opioids.com/heroin/heroin-inc.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Hiihii; 1542340]So say I want to buy drugs from a nigerian. Whats the procedure? Does he take me to a secret place? Do I need password? Reference?[/QUOTE]One way ticket to an all expense paid holiday, courtesy of the Thai Criminal Courts, in the Bangkok Hilton.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1542419]One way ticket to an all expense paid holiday, courtesy of the Thai Criminal Courts, in the Bangkok Hilton.[/QUOTE]See how unjust life is? That is not happening, they are there everyday, why why why?
Personally I would not use capitals to name anything related to the Thai police and judicial system, it seems undeserved.
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[QUOTE=Mouse1;1542445]But first make up your mind if he is Muslim or a communist by birth, because he can't be both.[/QUOTE]Yemen comes to mind.
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[QUOTE=Hiihii; 1542340]So say I want to buy drugs from a nigerian. Whats the procedure? Does he take me to a secret place? Do I need password? Reference?
Its hard for me to believe they sell right out in open. In fact I hardly ever see anyone chatting to nigerians other than other nigerians. LOL.
Wouldn't it be safer to buy drugs from a Thai?[/QUOTE]No idea what the secret password is. Probably something along the lines of "Hey do you have drugs to sell". If we know what's going on you can be sure the police know what's going on. And that means the Nigerians and everyone else doing business in lower Sukhumvit are paying off the cops to keep their business going. They used to sell out of the Burger King in Nana Sq but I guess they got kicked out of there. Still not recommended because every now and then the cops probably have to arrest someone to show they are more than an extortion enterprise which is what the cops in Thailand basically are, Extortion Inc. You would not want to be their arrest for the month.
Personally I think the Nigerians are just enjoying themselves. Nothing wrong with milling around and talking to other Nigerians.
Mr 787 what happened to the doorman at R4? He was there everyday day for years. I remember he developed a bad cough.
Ying and Bo-both have in coomon in leaving their supporters worse off after their reign of terror than before. Very funny. Kind of. LOL.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1540822]We will see two grades of working girls: very high end and very low end. The "in the middle girl" who worked jobs but did not make enough to make ends meet and would head out to FL a few nights a month are a quickly dying breed. They make enough to sustain themselves now.[/QUOTE]The most astute observation I've seen in a long time.
The segmentation is already happening. On the very low end, there are 300-600 baht hookers in Thai-oriented areas (Yaowarat, Khlong Lot) , and on the higher end is Sukhumwit with 2000-3000 cost of a ST (total cost, say 600 BF + 400 drinks + 2000 ST + 300 hotel). The middle ( 1000 baht per pop) is quickly disappearing, and the part-timer scene has pretty much died 3 years ago.
The worst part about it is the increasingly professional attitudes both at the low end and at the high end. There is no longer a pretense of a GFE, rarely spending more time with the customer than the bare minimum required to get them off. In the old days (and still in Pattaya fairly often) , I'd get a girl who is quite happy to be with me for the session in addition to the money. And there's enough connection to see each other as people, rather than a meathole on one side, and a baht note source on the other.
Going with a Bangkok working girl is getting as mechanical as any other city in the world (or in Asia, at least). And this will be the ultimate downfall of Bangkok as a mongering destination. Albeit in decline, Pattaya is still holding up somewhat, but that won't last too long either.
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[QUOTE=Crocodilexp; 1542755]The worst part about it is the increasingly professional attitudes both at the low end and at the high end. There is no longer a pretense of a GFE, rarely spending more time with the customer than the bare minimum required to get them off. In the old days (and still in Pattaya fairly often) , I'd get a girl who is quite happy to be with me for the session in addition to the money. And there's enough connection to see each other as people, rather than a meathole on one side, and a baht note source on the other.[/QUOTE]There are still plenty of girls that can enjoy sex and get it off. It depends though on how many customers they have and whether you develop a mutual liking. I have several regular girls that act same as a GF. When I meet a new girl, if lucky I may be able to get a percentage turned on.
It depends how you treat the girl and if she actually likes you and feels no pressure or stress.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp; 1542755]The most astute observation I've seen in a long time.
The segmentation is already happening. On the very low end, there are 300-600 baht hookers in Thai-oriented areas (Yaowarat, Khlong Lot) , and on the higher end is Sukhumwit with 2000-3000 cost of a ST (total cost, say 600 BF + 400 drinks + 2000 ST + 300 hotel). The middle (1000 baht per pop) is quickly disappearing, and the part-timer scene has pretty much died 3 years ago.
The worst part about it is the increasingly professional attitudes both at the low end and at the high end. There is no longer a pretense of a GFE, rarely spending more time with the customer than the bare minimum required to get them off. In the old days (and still in Pattaya fairly often) , I'd get a girl who is quite happy to be with me for the session in addition to the money. And there's enough connection to see each other as people, rather than a meathole on one side, and a baht note source on the other.
Going with a Bangkok working girl is getting as mechanical as any other city in the world (or in Asia, at least). And this will be the ultimate downfall of Bangkok as a mongering destination. Albeit in decline, Pattaya is still holding up somewhat, but that won't last too long either.[/QUOTE]Yep, spot on. The bread and butter of most mongers her for years was the 1k baht gal. Great attitudes, fun, and a willingness to hang out and have a good time. The more the price has increased the less fun it has become. Pay more get less, that seems to be the rule. Oilies still have some gems though.
Dudes come here and treat women the same way the treat women in the West. The accept what they get like little puppies. I see it all too often. An Asian woman will eat yo alive if you do that.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp; 1542755]The most astute observation I've seen in a long time.
The segmentation is already happening. On the very low end, there are 300-600 baht hookers in Thai-oriented areas (Yaowarat, Khlong Lot) , and on the higher end is Sukhumwit with 2000-3000 cost of a ST (total cost, say 600 BF + 400 drinks + 2000 ST + 300 hotel). The middle (1000 baht per pop) is quickly disappearing, and the part-timer scene has pretty much died 3 years ago.
The worst part about it is the increasingly professional attitudes both at the low end and at the high end. There is no longer a pretense of a GFE, rarely spending more time with the customer than the bare minimum required to get them off. In the old days (and still in Pattaya fairly often) , I'd get a girl who is quite happy to be with me for the session in addition to the money. And there's enough connection to see each other as people, rather than a meathole on one side, and a baht note source on the other.
Going with a Bangkok working girl is getting as mechanical as any other city in the world (or in Asia, at least). And this will be the ultimate downfall of Bangkok as a mongering destination. Albeit in decline, Pattaya is still holding up somewhat, but that won't last too long either.[/QUOTE]If Bangkok goes completely 1st world, in theory it could end up sort of like P4P in New York City where the market to some extent is divided between basically (low end) $50 "crack hoes" and ("high end") $400 plus escorts. However there are so many variables in Bangkok its hard to see that happening anytime within 5 to 10 years. You got cultural differences with far less stigma put on working girls, better quality street girls, and working girls of modest means who will increasingly want the Hi So Mall experience, and doing part time, and increased numbers of Burmese girls who will be arriving in larger numbers as Burma permits travel, and while the Chinese will bid prices up, they will have all ranges of mongers, so they might keep the cash flowing to keep the market diverse, maybe help the mid range also, including getting more business for the high overhead soapy palaces.