Sosua Reports

A couple weeks ago a couple of friends of mine came to visit me here in Sosua. One of the guys likes to play a high roller and stays in contact with Peter and Marriella formerly owners of Passions so he insisted on going to Blue Ice Piano Bar their new place. I ended up getting the phone number to one of the "waitresses" and we talked on Whatsapp for a few days and ended up hooking up at my apartment for a nice session and based on that session ended up taking her on a pre planned road trip for two days and nights. In between the session at my apartment and the road trip she quit working at Blue Ice and moved back to Santo Domingo. Due to roads being closed because of the damage from all the rain it took 7 hours on the bus to get to Sosua. Anyway, she has the body of a goddess and a matching personality, GFE plus plus plus in every way. 3500 pesos per 24 hours for the best sex of my life and I've been with my share of chicas. FYI, hooking up with girls working there is a bit difficult unless you are a late night person, the girls can't leave until their shift is over so best to get digits, they work 6 days a week too. Also, Peter says he has been given permission by the powers that be in SantoDomingo to reopen Passions, this is right from the horse's mouth, we'll see.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1966515]You really attribute her service level to him negotiating the price? The fact is that she would have performed the exact same no. Matter what price your friend had paid.[/QUOTE]All day it matters. Some of you turn a simple purchase of couchie into a life and death struggle. How the negotiation is handled matters. You don't want to leave her feeling cheapened.

[QUOTE=Quagmire1974;1965778]I was wondering if anyone enjoyed watching that show as much as I do. The one common theme that Locked Up Abroad seems to have is that people don't do all of the time they're sentenced to serve. I remember seeing an episode where someone was sentenced to many years in a Colombian jail after being arrested, tried, and convicted for being a coke mule. They ended up serving half of their time and then were released.

And that's why I think Cuba Dave won't serve the full five-year sentence. Costa Rica isn't interested in keeping a geriatric monger in their prison system for five years. By putting Dave on trial and getting a conviction, they sent the message they wanted to send and proved their point. I really believe Dave will serve 2, maybe 3 years at most and then be released. Interestingly, he said in a Tico Times article before his trial that if released, he planned to write a book about his experience. Dave really should contact the Locked Up Abroad folks and have an episode made. That's probably worth a lot more money, which he's going to need now that his mongering days are likely over for good.[/QUOTE]He's going to serve every day of his sentence and more.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1966515]You really attribute her service level to him negotiating the price? The fact is that she would have performed the exact same no. Matter what price your friend had paid.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Combo;1966533]Agreed. The only thing you accomplish by giving her more is her thinking you're an idiot and a better target for a scam.[/QUOTE]Gentlemen, I don't think it's completely out of the realm of possibility that there isn't a correlation between the price a chica gets and the performance she provides. I am definitely in accord with anybody about paying a chica more money is not necessarily going to get you a better performance. But I do believe a chica getting less money than she thinks the job is worth (or what she is used to getting) may very well take the initiative and adjust her services accordingly.

It could be a number of things she can do. Claim she has to leave early. Claim she can't suck his dick because she has dental work or la gripe. Won't suck his dick. Or only with a condom. Frustrate a guy by not letting him hit it. Complaining that he's too big. Or acting like she came already, and can't take anymore. If it's TLN, do what ever it takes to not give the guy their agreed upon 2nd session in the morning. Claiming their head, pussy or stomach hurts. Just lay there like a starfish. So many things a chica can do to adjust her services.

Now I'm not saying this can't happen even if the chica is getting her high ass price. I'm just saying these are some of the things chicas can do because they think they can, and it's at their disposal if they choose to exercise it if they arent really satisfied with the price they settled for, or have a problem with their client. A chica can agree to a lower price. But that does not mean she doesn't have the means or the inclination not to adjust her services or performance accordingly.

It should be common knowledge that enough chicas sometimes bust out claiming they deserve more money after a session, because the guy exceeded their expectations. Or he was fucking her every way from Sunday. Or perhaps because he was using viagra or some other sexual supplement, and took forever to come or never came. Some chicas act like they are owed more money. A clear sign that their perception of performing extra service "can be" (not will be) connected to how much they think they should get paid.

At the very least. If we don't pay a chica any money, what can happen? No sex takes place. When you pay, you open the door for a chica to provide services. What she performs of course depends upon the chica. So I do agree that in many instances a chica may perform the same way no matter how much she gets paid. But I would never completely rule out or totally ignore the possibility of a chica exercising her ability to adjust her services because she feels she is not really getting what the job is worth (to her) or what she is accustomed to.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1966531]Damn, sorry to hear that about Cuba Dave. I don't believe the guy was profiting any any way from the info he gave out. He just seemed overly-passionate about wanting to help others get out of sex-prison and travel to meet women who would not look at you twice in your home country.

Completely different from someone like Colombian Jake who was actually setting guys up with dates, providing lodging, and acting as the middle man on the transactions.[/QUOTE] [i] So how is Strecker making his living these days? "I don't have to work," he says with a smile. "I make money just by being me. " [/i]

Quote from Miami New Times article 2014. So what exactly do you think he meant by this? And how was he able to afford make monthly trips to Sosua while Passion's and CMP clubs, the only places in Sosua that were brothels with on-site sex, were open and promoted like crazy by CD, but as soon as they were closed he started to bad mouth Sosua and the DR, and yet when he was arrested in Costa Rica his partners claimed on his Web site that he was basically indigent with no source of income? And why did he start traveling to Costa Rica and promoting 'chica-friendly' hotels as soon as he was banned from the DR, even though any number of people had warned him that he was skating on thin ice and widely perceived as a person non grata? I have no particular insider knowledge of anything about CD or whether he received kickbacks from the clubs he promoted, and I doubt if he could have been making a lot of money out of all his online activites, books, etc. , but I think it must have subsidized his travels to a reasonable degree.

[QUOTE=StudBucket;1966499]
I get Frannie's point that if you are a local, of course you will have access to a book of phone numbers, the time to do this, and can find decent regulars who will short time you before the discos open or in the day. But, this is mongering website so must of us travel to different destinations .[/QUOTE]No the point is that people on this board are constantly complaining that chicas are asking more money than they are willing to pay. I am just suggesting that the solution is to state up front how much you are willing to pay, and don't sweat it if they refuse, because there will always be another chica eager to pick up leftovers. Now if you want to play along with the illusion that you have just met a sweet young thing who is intoxicated by your charm and animal magnetism, then you are going to have to pay more, and if you are Kanye West, you will have to pay even more.

One of my buddies on vacation in Sosua just met a nice chica out of Blue ICE piano bar this past week. She supposedly lives in Puerto Plata. His 1st session with her was off the chain, according to him.

When I was there (Blue ICE) with him, the girls are all wearing the same outfits. Their job is to mingle with the guests that come in, enticing them to buy drinks. Sometimes they are just sitting, or at times, dancing among themselves or the guests. For the most part they are not overly aggressive or pushy trying to get patrons to buy them drinks, but they do hang around long enough acting like they are interested in the patrons. And that sometimes prompts guys to offer the girls drinks, which drums up business for the bar.

My buddy shared a couple of things about his girl that works there. She gave him the "I am not a puta" line. So when it came to him figuring out what and how he was going to compensate her for her time, he decided to improvise. Enough guys know that line all too well. These women usually want the money and they usually do not have a problem accepting money. They just do not want to be perceived as one of those "cheap hoes" in the street.

He decided that at some point he would give her 2000 pesos, for her son the afternoon she was to come over his place before work. Prior to that though, that afternoon she claimed she had to come by taxi from Puerto Plata to Sosua and according to her it cost 350 pesos. When he told me about it, I said that is ridiculous. Most dominicans aint paying no price like that just to come in a taxi. A typical ride on the publico is about 50 pesos. I said besides, she has to go to work at 5. How was she going to get to work in Sosua then? And if she is paying 350 pesos every time she comes to Sosua, the job may not be worth it. The session that afternoon, came and went.

Last night he said he was supposed to see her again. This time she is complaining to him that she gets off at 3 am, but if she stays with him, she may have a problem with the babysitter (whoever the fuck that is) for the time overnight. I'm thinking, I know what is coming next. Since she is "no puta", my buddy decides he will claim the money he gives her is for her babysitter. He asks out of curiosity how much is her babysitter?

She texts back,1500 pesos. We both said "HUH?" What babysitter in PP where she is, is getting paid 1500 pesos from 3 am until she gets home? And what was she originally paying? Because if she was already paying at least 1000 pesos every night until she got home, how the hell can she justify working at Blue ICE? 1st off, the babysitter is probably a close friend or family member. And it's not likely a chica is giving either of them more than a few hundred pesos (if anything) a day. So this sweet "non puta" has some slick ways of getting paid on the sly tip.

I'd assume last nights session went well. I wonder if they talked any more about the babysitting thing? Your turn now Mr Frannie. I know you love these kinds of topics where you chime in on the expense of providing for dominican children, and all of the scenarios and possibilities of why the chica claims her babysitting costs 1500. Break it down for us, <smiling .

Just spoke to my buddy about his Blue Ice chica. He said she got off at 3 am, texted him claiming she was hungry and was going to get something to eat. Didn't get to his place until 4 ish. Then eventually got to his place. At 7 am she was ready to go. Surprised him, cause even though she claims to have a child, he still thought that she might stay a little longer. Ironically, the 1st session he had earlier in the week, she claimed she had to be at work at 5 pm. She got there close to 4 pm (was supposed to be there at 3) , and left about 530 pm. Supposedly late for work.

Much of the details with this chick screams red flags.

1) Claiming not to be a puta. But still using puta tactics to get paid.

2) Coming up with high prices for taxi and babysitting, not common to what locals may generally pay.

3) Her alleged claim of hunger after work is suspect. Them chicas usually eat pretty good. She could have checked to see what he had in his place, or she could have bought the food and ate it at his place.

4) Definitely showing signs of being what I call a "circuit puta" These are the types of chicas who work in a place where mongers hangout, looking for girls. The girls in those establishment make arrangements to be with guys they choose that expresses interest in getting with them. And that is how they supplement their income. The bar / restaurant is just a front for them. None of this is new information. Many establishments have this going on. Rumba was one of the most common places.

So these chicas sometimes are juggling several men during the course of a day or night. And that's why they may not be able to stay very long, so they can get to the next client. Or they are sometimes late because they are just leaving a client onto the next. They can have all sorts of excuses or reasons of why this is that and that is this. But it's usually all fallacies to keep the guys in the dark of what is really going on.

Inside the bar / venue is where they secure clients, and how they manage those clients depends on them. When chicas quit it isn't always because the bar / venue isn't paying enough. They may quit because they arent getting enough clients from their front. Or they have got enough clients from their front. Can't rule out some guy falling in love / like and wifing a chica up either.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1966560]

She texts back,1500 pesos. We both said "HUH?" What babysitter in PP where she is, is getting paid 1500 pesos from 3 am until she gets home? And what was she originally paying? Because if she was already paying at least 1000 pesos every night until she got home, how the hell can she justify working at Blue ICE? 1st off, the babysitter is probably a close friend or family member. And it's not likely a chica is giving either of them more than a few hundred pesos (if anything) a day. So this sweet "non puta" has some slick ways of getting paid on the sly tip.

I'd assume last nights session went well. I wonder if they talked any more about the babysitting thing? Your turn now Mr Frannie. I know you love these kinds of topics where you chime in on the expense of providing for dominican children, and all of the scenarios and possibilities of why the chica claims her babysitting costs 1500. Break it down for us, <smiling .[/QUOTE]No, you are right, the taxi is not 350 pesos and the baby sitter is not 1500 pesos, but she is in this relationship for gain, not for love. Hillary Clinton was not paid $250,000 by Goldman Sachs in exchange for favorable treatment during her expected presidency, it was just paying her a speaker's fee for sharing her valuable knowledge. This girl obviously needs financial help, but would quite probably settle for a relationship if there was something like a visa at the end of the rainbow. The girls who are of novia quality are less likely to settle for hard-core whoring if they think they still have relationship possibilities. After all, a hell of a lot of girls DO make it to Europe, Canada, and the US, so it is not impossible.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1966575]No, you are right, the taxi is not 350 pesos and the baby sitter is not 1500 pesos, but she is in this relationship for gain, not for love. This girl obviously needs financial help, but would quite probably settle for a relationship if there was something like a visa at the end of the rainbow. The girls who are of novia quality are less likely to settle for hard-core whoring if they think they still have relationship possibilities. After all, a hell of a lot of girls DO make it to Europe, Canada, and the US, so it is not impossible.[/QUOTE]Hardly a relationship Frannie, more like it's just another job they have, cloaked to appear like they have personal interest in the admirer.

You may be correct that she needs financial help. I wouldn't automatically assume that though. From looking at her, I believe she is getting paid from other sources elsewhere. At the very least probably has a boyfriend or husband in the DR or abroad. So, I'm not so quick to assume they aren't already getting financial help to take care of their needs.

Take enough putas out in the street, many of these women are seen actively working / whoring, but already have money coming in left and right from multiple WU novios. They arent doing it ( out on the street ) because they are hurting for money. The money on the street, is easy money to be made. Same can go for a chica working in a bar / restaurant. She will always say she is single and has no boyfriend or anybody remotely interested in them. But enough of them are lying.

The suitors they have on the hook, reduce her concern when most of the bills are paid, and they may have enough to have a bank account. You are correct a lot of these girls may be interested in a visa so they can make it to Eurpoe, Canada, and the US. However a lot of these women do so and end up coming right back after a brief time away. Those chicas were probably not happy away from the DR. Worse case scenario is getting with a gringo just to fleece him legally.

Many others have zero interest in leaving the DR, they really only want our money / resources, their Dominican men for fathering their children, and the FAMILY for their base support. Besides, if a woman does have more than one WU novio all sending their money, it may not be necessary for her to choose only one to leave her country for. Why not keep them all, and collect from all, without ever stepping foot out of the country? If one WU novio drops off, just secure another one.

A lot of guys fall in like very easily with women working in bars / venues. Feel the need to become RESCUE RANGERS to some chica "obviously" in need of financial help. Some guys fair well with chicas that work in bars / venues. Meaning it works out great for both. Mutually satisfying. Others get the runaround.

My buddy may very well find himself being the recipient of RFM requests from this chica after he is back in the states. Meanwhile she is going to score more clients while playing the innocent role with my buddy on whatsapp, "papi mi don't like Sosua" "Mi no get enough dinero from bar" "Papi, I'm going to quit if I do not find another job soon".

True or not, she is likely going to expect him to send $help even if she never asks for it. Just like she hinted about the taxi she needed, and the cost of her babysitting. Many of these women are just as slick as any puta out on the street. In fact, probably they are one and the same, just each working from different perches.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1966556]No the point is that people on this board are constantly complaining that chicas are asking more money than they are willing to pay. I am just suggesting that the solution is to state up front how much you are willing to pay, and don't sweat it if they refuse, because there will always be another chica eager to pick up leftovers. Now if you want to play along with the illusion that you have just met a sweet young thing who is intoxicated by your charm and animal magnetism, then you are going to have to pay more, and if you are Kanye West, you will have to pay even more.[/QUOTE]Frannie, "playing along with the illusion" that you described doesn't mean a guy is automatically going to pay more. If he's playing along with the illusion as you say, that indicates to me he may be aware that both parties are just playing a role, and using it to form or maintain a vibe. When it's time to negotiate, how much illusion/vibe is left between them depends on how things go. I've had chicas that quickly agreed to a price, acting like price was not an issue, and we never broke stride from our vibe. Ended up fucking like rabbits. Paid em, and all was well.

When a guy is not playing along, and doesn't see it as an illusion, is serious and thinks the woman is serious about him, then I can go along with your premise of a guy potentially paying more.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1966556]No the point is that people on this board are constantly complaining that chicas are asking more money than they are willing to pay. I am just suggesting that the solution is to state up front how much you are willing to pay, and don't sweat it if they refuse, because there will always be another chica eager to pick up leftovers. Now if you want to play along with the illusion that you have just met a sweet young thing who is intoxicated by your charm and animal magnetism, then you are going to have to pay more, and if you are Kanye West, you will have to pay even more.[/QUOTE]Enough mongers will pay some chicas too much and sometimes mongers could get better service from enough chicas, but some mongers, not all, but enough, might pay less and get the same service!

IOW, YMMV.

Sousa's mayor is an idiotic air-head who should be impeached, if the Dominican Republic has such a process. Besides not resolving the shortage of water piped water for the locals, this woman purposely did this to Sosua business to force her naive will to change Sosua to the Land of Oz with herself the fake Wizard behind the curtain.

[QUOTE=IpanemaCarioca;1966817]Sousa's mayor is an idiotic air-head who should be impeached, if the Dominican Republic has such a process. Besides not resolving the shortage of water piped water for the locals, this woman purposely did this to Sosua business to force her naive will to change Sosua to the Land of Oz with herself the fake Wizard behind the curtain.[/QUOTE]Reminds me of a certain city called Flint, in the richest country of the world.

[QUOTE=IpanemaCarioca;1966817]Sousa's mayor is an idiotic air-head who should be impeached, if the Dominican Republic has such a process. Besides not resolving the shortage of water piped water for the locals, this woman purposely did this to Sosua business to force her naive will to change Sosua to the Land of Oz with herself the fake Wizard behind the curtain.[/QUOTE]I like the reference to Aleppo, hahaha!