Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Western787; 1543523]LOL, no he specified a real girl. By the way Thermae's supposedly strict "no LB" rule apparently now has a post op exception. I would think the Japs would be pretty pissed if they ever got fooled.

AVERAGE height in Thailand for women is only 157. 3 cm (almost 5-2) so that means that 165 cm (approx 5-5) and up is tall by Thai standards, therefore what are the odds of finding a 5-9 or 5-10 girl, who is also hot, also P4P, and available at somewhat reasonable rates? That rules out most G club girls and probably all of off-market (literal) model-hookers and similar quality women. Many "spokesmodels" in Siam or Terminal 21 and similar venues doing various shows can be flat out 10 stunners, with feminine voices that prove they are women. And most are in fact around 5-9, but my guess is that very few are hookers, and generally I've noticed are very careful to avoid any direct eye contact with any males in close proximity. Avoiding direct eye contact is the best way to avoid uninvited solicitations, and given their often dazzling beauty. They must get hit on many times a day.[/QUOTE]Stunners? I've seen these, very few are stunners! God did not make that many stunners and I find it hard to believe, a real stunner is going to work for so little money as paid to shopping center pitchwomans.

I wonder if agogo girls avoid eye contact because they don't want UNsolicited sexual advances too. LOL.

[QUOTE=Western787; 1543526]The NANA hotel is run on conservative principles and fosters traditional values.

The NANA does not hesitate to refuse rooms to persons unsuited to the prevailing ethos of The Nana – even if they have a confirmed reservation.

1 / The NANA does not welcome SEX TOURISTS, and does not try to be polite about it.

Borderline cases are not given the benefit of the doubt, but are treated as sex tourists.

Those who are borderline cases should stay elsewhere.

Guests who attempt to bring in bargirls, catamites and their like will be told in plain language to settle their bills and leave.

Remaining on the premises after being told to leave will be treated as a police matter.

The Nana does not ask for or listen to explanations or excuses, and does not apologise for the manner in which miscreants are thrown out.

The Nana also does not apologise for any mistakes it may be accused of having made with regard to the identification of sex tourists.

To keep The Nana private, secure, wholesome and sleaze-free for the kind of guests we welcome, room guests are not permitted to take visitors / outsiders upstairs into the building and their rooms, or into the garden and pool area.

Exceptions may be made in appropriate circumstances at the management's discretion.

Suitable visitors / outsiders may be entertained in the restaurant.

2 / The NANA operates a "ZERO TOLERANCE " policy regarding

&9702; TROUBLE-MAKERS,

&9702; POSSESSORS AND USERS OF ILLICIT DRUGS and

&9702; ALL OTHER ILLEGAL AND NEFARIOUS ACTIVITIES.

3 / The NANA also does NOT WELCOME.

&9702; UNDOMESTICATED PEOPLE – the sort of people whose conduct and appearance give tourists in general and their compatriots in particular a bad name.

When The NANA states 'NOT WELCOME', The NANA means it. There will be no politeness about it.

4 / The NANA welcomes FAMILIES and prides itself on its child-friendly staff, but families are welcome only if CHILDREN are KEPT UNDER REASONABLE CONTROL.

The NANA is not a playground for children: children must not be allowed to disturb other guests. Families that do not keep their children under control will be told to settle their bill and leave in no uncertain manner.

5 / The NANA particularly welcome guests who like PETS and ANIMALS.

The NANA is home to many rescued cats, terrapins and one dog, all of which are well cared for. The garden of The NANA is also home to many squirrels, birds, etc. However, guests are not allowed to bring in pets or other rescued animals. The NANA already has too many rescued animals on the premises.

Visitors who object to any of The NANA's policies or who intend to spend their time in Thailand whoring, behaving badly, indulging in alcohol abuse and illicit drugs should stay elsewhere. The NANA is not that kind of place.

Tourism is not about going on a rampage through other people's country: those who cannot travel abroad without behaving badly should stay home.

On these policies, The NANA is not interested in dissenting public opinion or what the business world calls 'customer feedback'.

The NANA caters to a certain kind of clientele and that is the end of the matter.

No discussion. No compromise.

[url]http://www.theatlantahotelbangkok.com/facilities.php[/url][/QUOTE]I saw the word "catamite" and it brought me back to the Atlanta Hotel, Soi 2, Bangkok. A horrid place to stay. You are calling the Atlanta the Nana Hotel. 4 Nana Tai, Bangkok. There is quite a difference. Unless you have more info. The Atlanta Hotel was once a chemical company run by Max Henn. Are you confused, high, ....or did the Atlanta buy the Nana?

http://www.theatlantahotelbangkok.com/caveat.php

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1350&dat=20021103&id=pkpPAAAAIBAJ&sjid=DgQEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6386,774778

[QUOTE=Kaintuck;1543552]Times must have changed. During the Vietnam war the Nana was famous for the "Puying Room" where off-duty hookers would hang out, socialize, and offer cut-rate services. In recent years it is still hospitable to working girls in the coffee shop where I have made a few instant friends.[/QUOTE]

See answer one below.

[QUOTE=Kaintuck;1543552]Times must have changed. During the Vietnam war the Nana was famous for the "Puying Room" where off-duty hookers would hang out, socialize, and offer cut-rate services. In recent years it is still hospitable to working girls in the coffee shop where I have made a few instant friends.[/QUOTE]Western787's post isn't serious, but a poor attempt at humor. He copied it from the Atlanta Hotel's website and replaced Atlanta's name with Nana. The problem with what Western787 posted is that it can be easily misunderstood as true (which happened to you and I'm sure others) and it gets repeated as true to others. I personally think that "humor" like this is somewhat malicious since it can cause harm to the Nana Hotel's business of catering to mongers.

I was here in Thailand in 1989 for 5 weeks. Was it much better than now? Ok was cheaper. I got a Cowboy bargirl for whole night for 400 Baht. BF I forget but must have been cheap. However after that she was a hassle as was very hard to get rid of her. She would turn up uninvited.

I don't recall many girls performing badly back then but I did mostly bargirls and the odd Soapy like the Thermae or Darling, but no oily girls. Maybe Mona Lisa.

So the big difference was that 90 percent of girls fucked pretty good and LT was the norm for bargirls. BB was very common of course but not always. Aids was not heard of I believe.

Nana Hotel was no worse than it is now. Always a sleaze Hotel.

[QUOTE=Yujin;1543614]Western787's post isn't serious, but a poor attempt at humor. He copied it from the Atlanta Hotel's website and replaced Atlanta's name with Nana. The problem with what Western787 posted is that it can be easily misunderstood as true (which happened to you and I'm sure others) and it gets repeated as true to others. I personally think that "humor" like this is somewhat malicious since it can cause harm to the Nana Hotel's business of catering to mongers.[/QUOTE]

The title is "Ballbusters future plans for Nana Hotel" and with the web site of Atlanta Hotel clearly listed below as sourcing my post.

Anyone able to read plain English knows its a joke, or anyone that RTFF as mere hours ago I was suggesting Nana Hotel to a monger looking for safety and convenience.

And i guess you're saying pet lovers and bible thumpers will now be booking Nana Hotel? and mongers will be avoiding it since it is now "wholesome and sleaze-free?" You've got to be kidding, right?

In any case to those that might be worried it might lose its reputation, I can personally vouch for the sleazy, sordid, hooker-friendly, and monger-favorable nature of Nana Hotel.

If that is insufficient, I have no problem with the post being deleted by the Admin

[QUOTE=Yujin;1543614]Western787's post isn't serious, but a poor attempt at humor. He copied it from the Atlanta Hotel's website and replaced Atlanta's name with Nana. The problem with what Western787 posted is that it can be easily misunderstood as true (which happened to you and I'm sure others) and it gets repeated as true to others. I personally think that "humor" like this is somewhat malicious since it can cause harm to the Nana Hotel's business of catering to mongers.[/QUOTE]Many thanks. Happy to know the venerable Nana hasn't changed its stripes. I may be wrong but think the Atlanta Hotel may have been part of the consortium of hotels that catered to American service men on R&R in Bangkok during the Vietnam war. The deal was that they could join the group by promising to offer $5 / night per room. 24 hour restaurant / bar, A / C, pool, and (most important) , a liberal guest policy. The Grace Hotel was in this group and was one of the few that was recommended for officers. How times have changed.

[QUOTE=Kaintuck;1543674]The Grace Hotel was in this group and was one of the few that was recommended for officers. How times have changed.[/QUOTE]The Grace is now a Hotel for only if you are really desperate as for Nana, but for different reasons. Zenith Hotel, was another where a high percentage of guests were muslims and I was looked on as pariah I think. I had no problem with them but it looked like they thought I should not be there.

[QUOTE=Yujin;1543614]Western787's post isn't serious, but a poor attempt at humor. He copied it from the Atlanta Hotel's website and replaced Atlanta's name with Nana. The problem with what Western787 posted is that it can be easily misunderstood as true (which happened to you and I'm sure others) and it gets repeated as true to others. I personally think that "humor" like this is somewhat malicious since it can cause harm to the Nana Hotel's business of catering to mongers.[/QUOTE]Not even having 100 mongers freely defecating all around Nana Hotel could damage it. The have seen worst. If you think that W787's postings (politically soaked ones aside) aren't funny, can you try making us laugh next time?

Is the 'Dream hotel' guest-friendly?

[QUOTE=El Flaco;1543681]The have seen worst. If you think that W787's postings (politically soaked ones aside) aren't funny, can you try making us laugh next time?[/QUOTE]Normally I am not keen on simple satire, irony or sarcasm, but this one was amusing. At least topical.

Of course I am not a sex tourist (only). I took GF, and 2 others from family to tropical Island Lipe for 4 days. Many Swedish girls there but most were a bit pudgy for my taste. The coral was good in several locations. Very nice place to holiday for those bored by Samui and Phuket.

Perfect for the G clubs and Go Go's and within weeks very likely the hottest dance mix in the world.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFV1NtDvuPo[/url]

[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1543507]Frankly, I think today BKK has the world's best mongering scene. I base this on the quality of the P4P scene and the urban setting in which it is embedded. While the city will change in 5 years, I expect it will still be the world's best mongering destination.[/QUOTE]It is not all relative. Just walk down lower Sukhumwit (from Soi 3 to Asoke, including Soi 4) and count the number of passable-looking freelancers. In 2008, there were many (I'd say 30-50 almost always) , these days you'd hardly count ten on a good night (and the best looking ones today are the better looking ones from 2008, only 6 years older). The bars (although not my favorite scene) haven't improved much. I have never heard anyone who's been around that things are more or less the same or better in agogos compared to 5 or 10 years ago. The managers are very loud in whining how recruiting even middling-looking girls is difficult now.

Pattaya is clearly better than Bangkok for mongering since about 2010, whereas before it was a bit of a wash (Bangkok having better looks and wider variety of venues, Pattaya having the sheer numbers and low prices).

You might be right that Bangkok might have world's best mongering scene among large cities, but only because the scene elsewhere started out inferior and is declining at a roughly similar rate.

Back in the 1950s-1980s, there were several new pussy paradises being discovered / created by Westerners and flourishing (briefly Korea and HK, then Philippines, Thailand) , then Eastern Europe in the early 1990s (quite briefly, though). But since about 2000 or so (almost 20 years now) , no place has emerged as a new destination for mongering, and the old places haven't gotten better. Could be various factors, globalization, mobile phones, whatever.

All eyes on Burma now... hope the scene there it pans out well, it has potential.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp; 1543763]You might be right that Bangkok might have world's best mongering scene among large cities, but only because the scene elsewhere started out inferior and is declining at a roughly similar rate.

Back in the 1950s-1980s, there were several new pussy paradises being discovered / created by Westerners and flourishing (briefly Korea and HK, then Philippines, Thailand) , then Eastern Europe in the early 1990s (quite briefly, though). But since about 2000 or so (almost 20 years now) , no place has emerged as a new destination for mongering, and the old places haven't gotten better. Could be various factors, globalization, mobile phones, whatever.

All eyes on Burma now. Hope the scene there it pans out well, it has potential.[/QUOTE]I believe all these paradises depended upon sellers in effect mispricing services due in part to high barriers to communication much beyond their village or city. Vs today where for example Burmese 18+ beauties (despite 3rd world status of Burma) are not going to misprice in a similar way. Paradise in its idealize version typically IMHO would be where there is an abundant supply of beautiful and charming females, but don't quite seem to know it yet, and price accordingly.

True, nearly all the major P4P markets across the world seem to on the downslope either due to economic growth, cell phones, NGO's, LE crackdowns and of course the rlentless underlying mega trend - globalization itself

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp; 1543763]It is not all relative. Just walk down lower Sukhumwit (from Soi 3 to Asoke, including Soi 4) and count the number of passable-looking freelancers. In 2008, there were many (I'd say 30-50 almost always) , these days you'd hardly count ten on a good night (and the best looking ones today are the better looking ones from 2008, only 6 years older). The bars (although not my favorite scene) haven't improved much. I have never heard anyone who's been around that things are more or less the same or better in agogos compared to 5 or 10 years ago. The managers are very loud in whining how recruiting even middling-looking girls is difficult now.[/QUOTE]I heard not many years ago when the Nana Go Go's closed each night, many of the girls would just move to Nana Parking Lot. Plus Soi 4 itself would have much larger crowds for example at 2 to 3 AM than now, even filling up the Nana Hotel restaurant late at night. Have you heard of that?