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[QUOTE=JungleBunny]Anyway, they are asking if I want short time or long time. Now, this is where I maybe born at night, but not last night. The usual trap here. Punters dilemma. Say short time and they are setting up with the girl friends for an after hours hunt. Say long time, and they get the inevitable phone call 75 min in with an emergency after you've paid them.[/QUOTE]There is no problem. You only pay at the end. You discuss the duration. If they have to leave early, you simply pay less.
The inevitable phone call 75 mins in is very rare in my experience, but occasionally happens girl is in a rush due to another appointment.
The most common problem is that my idea of LT is 8 hours where some girls think it is 4 hours. 4 hours is no use to me at all. Some girls need to leave by 5am. This needs to be checked first.
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Speaking of change, I would like to survey a couple if long term bargirls and ask how much the customers have changed. Are the aholes much more prevalent now?
As for prices 1500 has been the oily tip for many years. Back at the time of world stock market crash, sex actually got a lot cheaper due to greatly devalued Thai baht compared to my home currency. I remember I could get sex in CP2 Soapy for a 1000 tip 12 years ago but that was worth 1500 at today's exchange rate.
I think guys are complaining about change a little too much, and really need to consider a fair comparison.
Those that want a less developed country can go to Phnom Phen. I may take tour of Siem Riep this year with a hottie who speaks Cambodian fluently.
I guess it was much more normal to take girls for several days 10 to 20 years back, as would not cost much.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1544027]Chemistry can make a huge difference with bargirls.[/QUOTE]However that chemistry really isn't completely known until things are consummated back at the hotel. In fact that's the answer to the ST vs LT 4 hr vs 8 hr and so forth dilemma. Because while "chemistry" can be determined at some level in the bar or Go Go club, its not until the parties get back to the hotel and begin the session that things get determined. Although I see the issue being muddled up, "chemistry" IMHO isn't really about getting her off, or some kind of mutual romance BS, its just the general vibe, just whether the parties enjoy each other as people. While its always a job for the provider, many prefer certain customers, and any perceptive customer can pick up those vibes
The provider (the party with the biggest concerns) makes that assessment in the first hour of the session and can encompass many characteristics of the customer, detailed physical factors, the way he treats the girl, etc . And the customer makes his assessment and senses the response from the lady.
Except in special circumstances point is always go ST and then play it by ear and (assuming the lady wants it) possibly turn a ST into an extended ST or regular LT. At Go Go's for example you need to take them late enough (11:30 weekdays or by 12:30 weekends) that she's not thinking about running back to get re-barfined - HOWEVER early enough to have time in the evening to make the ST vs extended ST/LT decision.
In any case except for some hardcore porno turn-on some guys might prefer for their own reasons - generally IMHO (despite the reality) its best to never treat a provider like she's a hooker. In fact that factor alone vastly increases the odds of getting DFK along with other GFE interaction.
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There have been a lot of good things said about Crazy House but I've heard the girls are only interested in Japanese and Asian men. Have any posters actually taken one of these Crazy House "stunners" or have you just sat on your arses ogling them?
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[QUOTE=Skepti10; 1544042]Its such a shame the previous posters haven't bothered to recognise this fantastic report! I love that you made it into a competition, and it seems you were well rewarded.
Bravo, keep on posting![/QUOTE]Too many reports of Thermae girls turning their noses up at non-Asian guys. Who wants to go to a bar full of haughty girls who turn away from you because of your race? It seems the only girls a white guy can hope for in Thermae are the bottom feeders.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1544087]Speaking of change, I would like to survey a couple if long term bargirls and ask how much the customers have changed. Are the aholes much more prevalent now?[/QUOTE]Careful what you wish for as their prevalance along with other sloppy, smelly, drunk Farangs is a blessing in disguise in some ways for the remaining Farangs. Yes, it hurts the image and creates policies tagging all Farangs a certain way, but those can be mitigated.
And while Japanese are favored, they do have extremely high nicotine addiction rates vs very low smoking rates for Thai females. (8 to 1 in fact) , Note Thai male smoking rates are almost as high as Japan, and therefore not suprising LFK and DFK have only recently become more common in normal Thai BF / GF situations.
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[QUOTE=*****man;1544125]Too many reports of Thermae girls turning their noses up at non-Asian guys. Who wants to go to a bar full of haughty girls who turn away from you because of your race? It seems the only girls a white guy can hope for in Thermae are the bottom feeders.[/QUOTE]Well its not quite that bad yet, but with ultra cuties? Probably true, but sort of hot and kind of cute girls? Not absolutely true. The lineup girls (not at the bar) and particularly ones with the cutesy Jap sytle hairdos, they are probably not good bets regardless of looks, until very late evening.
These girls are simply going with the probabilities, can you blame them?
Under 35 stud type Farangs do OK with alot of girls there(ultra ultra cuties?, remotely possible), but one wonders why they got to pay for anything in the first place.
Part of the entertainment of Thermae in fact is watching typically average middle age or older Farangs get shot down. While I don't wish this upon anybody, especially guys that may have come from half way around the world, I suspect most haven't done much homework on the place, as when they do the "inspect the troops" style walk-by (which any Jap with a pulse and a dick gets away with in there) -after they get shot down, dissed or given dirty looks by girl after girl, they get this confused/ embarrassed look thinking maybe "why the hell are these girls standing here for hours then?"
Note while every guy HAS to buy a drink when he enters Thermae, the women don't, so the girls standing there in the lineup with their night bags ready-to-go are nearly always drink free, so some Farangs may offer them a drink and call them briefly to the bar, and in those cases I've seen some ultra cuties act very polite, even with older Farangs, but in those cases over time you invariably see the girls excusing themselves to go back to the lineup.
Bangkok appears to be in some kind of transition phase in regard to P4P and provider selectiveness, so its not going to necessarily work so well anymore for drop-by (non resident or non frequent visitor) type mongers focused on mid 8 or higher girls.
Best strategy at Thermae?, buy the popcorn and enjoy the show, and just see what evolves..
Thermae under Thai law could keep all Farangs out, but right now the show makes them money.
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gentlemen,
i'm looking for a girl who can not only deepthroat but take a full on face fuck. i won't have much time in bangkok to do a lot of looking. can anyone make a suggestion or two? any names stick out at places like dr bjs, soms, kangaroo, lolipop, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url], etc?
no star of light recommendations though please.
also is kob's place out of business? never been but checked the level above star of light and couldn't find it last visit. is it gone?
thanks much
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[QUOTE=*****man;1544125]Too many reports of Thermae girls turning their noses up at non-Asian guys. Who wants to go to a bar full of haughty girls who turn away from you because of your race? It seems the only girls a white guy can hope for in Thermae are the bottom feeders.[/QUOTE]Perhaps the worst change of all in BKK. From 99 till '07 I was in Thermae on average 4 nights a week. Probably pulled way in excess of 10 gals there. It was a big party almost every night. Gals were fun, interactive, grabbed your johnson, were very forward, and most liked to drink and have a great time. Now they stand and say little as the Japanese parade by. Sadly, it is their club now. I don't drop in too often as it just angers me to have working girls turn their noses up at me while cooing over a 65 year old Japanese dude with trousers up to his armpits. It is kind of sad and funny to see a great looking gal leave with one of these trolls. We get a good belly laugh, and I am sure it endears us to all the other Japanese hunters there.
But best wait staff in BKK. They all still greet me by name, know what I drink, and give that all knowing smile when I walk in.
Things change and when it comes to P4P in BKK, usually not for the better. Thermae is the prime example.
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[QUOTE=Western787;1544114]In fact that factor alone vastly increases the odds of getting DFK along with other GFE interaction.[/QUOTE]Of the hundreds of working girls I have been with in BKK, I can count on two hands the ones that did not enjoy DFK.
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[QUOTE=*****man;1544125]Too many reports of Thermae girls turning their noses up at non-Asian guys. Who wants to go to a bar full of haughty girls who turn away from you because of your race? It seems the only girls a white guy can hope for in Thermae are the bottom feeders.[/QUOTE]You are correct. The real lookers would not [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] on a white man if he was on fire. Main reason is that is she is seen leaving with a white dude, the Japanese will not go with her anymore and her friends will give her a hard time.
One of my good friends used to see one of the ultra hotties in Thermae. She would not be seen leaving with him, opting instead to meet him around the block up Soi 15. And he was a very handsome 28 years old at the time.
The Japanese are very racist dudes. They feel the same way about white dudes poking gals they are doing as some racist white folk do about black dudes doing chicks they do. Personally my attitude is "a quick shower and she is as good as new."
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1544145]Of the hundreds of working girls I have been with in BKK, I can count on two hands the ones that did not enjoy DFK.[/QUOTE]Enjoy? Then you mean you got kissing with all but 10 out of 100's? So 98% or so of all providers (even first time with you) have offerred you kissing. That is not typical.
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[QUOTE=Western787; 1544114]Except in special circumstances point is always go ST and then play it by ear and (assuming the lady wants it) possibly turn a ST into an extended ST or regular LT. At Go Go's for example you need to take them late enough (11:30 weekdays or by 12:30 weekends) that she's not thinking about running back to get re-barfined. HOWEVER early enough to have time in the evening to make the ST vs extended ST / LT decision.
In any case except for some hardcore porno turn-on some guys might prefer for their own reasons. Generally IMHO (despite the reality) its best to never treat a provider like she's a hooker. In fact that factor alone vastly increases the odds of getting DFK along with other GFE interaction.[/QUOTE]I agree with most of what you say taking ST first. Even with good chemistry you can't guarantee good bed compatibility.
However I don't agree with waiting till 11:30 pm. With the most popular girls you will have low chances to get them except when they just returned. I tend to take them very early before the other guys get there. The girls like the fact they can go with me 2 hrs and still have plenty of time to pick up another customer, or a late pre booking.
I have been known to take a girl even before opening time.
I should add though that late is currently ok as business seems very slow.
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Thermae
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1544144]Perhaps the worst change of all in BKK. From 99 till '07 I was in Thermae on average 4 nights a week. Probably pulled way in excess of 10 gals there. It was a big party almost every night. Gals were fun, interactive, grabbed your johnson, were very forward, and most liked to drink and have a great time. Now they stand and say little as the Japanese parade by.[/QUOTE]Used to be a semi-frequent visitor from mid-90's to early 00's. I remember when it was in the previous building, and then when it moved to the basement of the current building. As it was first described to me back then, maybe the closest thing to the Star Wars bar you'll find. Three ring circus, seemed to be the refugee of last resort for a lot of castoffs, both server and client. But a fun place to visit, if you hadn't found a [i]friend[/i] in Nana or Cowboy, there was always the possibility of finding [i]company[/i] there. Or, if not, a last couple of drinks and some visual entertainment before heading home.
[QUOTE=Western787;1544137]Best strategy at Thermae?, buy the popcorn and enjoy the show, and just see what evolves.[/QUOTE]Seems that even though things change, some things stay the same. Thermae was always one of the better shows in town.
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Ayutthaya-Info needed
Hi folks,
I will be at Krungsri River Hotel in Ayuttahaya for few days before I go to BKK. Is there any action there?
Can you recommend any place or escort for the hotel?
Thanks for the help.