Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=*****man;1544123]There have been a lot of good things said about Crazy House but I've heard the girls are only interested in Japanese and Asian men. Have any posters actually taken one of these Crazy House "stunners" or have you just sat on your arses ogling them?[/QUOTE]It's not true that all the girls only want Japanese customers, however there are certainly a percentage of bad girls who are looking for 3k for a quickie.

New girls 2 and 24 are nice girls however one has the face and the other has the ass. Neither have a total package. No. 91 and 94 are examples of bad girls. I did not take them but their bad character is fairly obvious.

I took Mint who changes number often. She is a sweet girl and have repeated. I also took a girl with big tits. She was rather passive but still fuckable. A bit too young most likely.

Crazy House is a good place to ogle and get horny, but I suspect a small percentage of the stunners will actually be good. I can't be sure as did not want to sample a significant number of them. .

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1544204]I agree with most of what you say taking ST first. Even with good chemistry you can't guarantee good bed compatibility.

However I don't agree with waiting till 11:30 pm. With the most popular girls you will have low chances to get them except when they just returned. I tend to take them very early before the other guys get there. The girls like the fact they can go with me 2 hrs and still have plenty of time to pick up another customer, or a late pre booking.

I have been known to take a girl even before opening time.

I should add though that late is currently ok as business seems very slow.[/QUOTE]What I meant to say was within the context where the goal is to possibly get a LT and a good vibe for that LT . In that sense as far as Go Go's one might want to look at that 11:30 to 12:30 window. Its not easily done, because the most are not favorable to LT in the first place, and getting a good vibe is not going to always happen The point is working those time frames increases the odds if that is what one wants. My guess is that most customers 80% of the time are really focused on just ST anyways, and nothing else, so in that context you are correct, the hotties get picked off early even in the past "Non-High High Season" so you'd have to get them near opening or before their 2nd or perhaps 3rd ST.

Now of course with "cute" girls (not stunners per se) they were often around at 11; 30 ready for their barfine, the protests and lack of tourists accentuating that factor of course.

[QUOTE=Western787;1544151]Enjoy? Then you mean you got kissing with all but 10 out of 100's? So 98% or so of all providers (even first time with you) have offerred you kissing. That is not typical.[/QUOTE]Yep, enjoy. Women like to kissing, its intimate, and that includes Thai women. I find it completely typical as do most of the guys I know and yes, the first time. Most of my encounters with gogo gals and FLs were one time only. For my first seven years here I rarely repeated.

Minute I hit the ST Hotel room I had my tongue down the gals throat. I would not say offered as I just go at it like I would go at it with any girlfriend, gig, or sex partner. When I would hear,"Shower, Shower," I would continue to kiss them relentlessly and say "after, after." I set the tone and the pace. I found the majority tended to let themselves go, feeding off my intensity. Really never had complaints.
Maybe this has changed as well with the scene becoming more sterile and a more "professional" attitude prevailing. As I said before, all my running buds back in the day never complained about girls not kissing. My first night ever in BKK I sat in Long Gun making out with a gal for about an hour before taking her to my hotel. It was very common to sit with a gal in a bar and kiss, feel, and play. Of course I have always been in good shape, clean shaven, well dressed, and don't smoke. Those things make a difference. If you are overweight, are not well groomed, wear cargo shorts, flip-flops, and a Red Bull T-Shirt, you might have a bit harder of a time getting gals to kiss you.


With oily girls it is far different. I know the service is going to be pretty good, so I kick back and enjoy.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot; 1544265]Of course I have always been in good shape, clean shaven, well dressed, and don't smoke. Those things make a difference. If you are overweight, are not well groomed, wear cargo shorts, flip-flops, and a Red Bull T-Shirt, you might have a bit harder of a time getting gals to kiss you.[/QUOTE]Absolutely. Clean shaven, in shape, well dressed, non-smoker status. Otherwise you are cutting the odds, I agree. Ok, so you're initiating ("just going at it") DFK or LFK and on that basis you get few turndowns. OK, that's not bad. Unless I ask for it specifically upfront which might happen ocassionally if the girl looks exceptionally kissable, normally I just let them make the move in that regard, and I figure about 50% overall excluding the rarer "ask up front" situations. Of course I AM going to no matter what kiss, them in them near the mouth, on the neck, earlobes, and cheeks and so forth, the usual fake kissing things. It either then goes to DFK or LFK or not, and in some cases with certain girls as the session moves along its not something I am always looking for, and part of that relates to the vibe of the session, and whether I sense a hardcore hooker thing as the session moves forward. Hardcore hookers don't exactly appeal to me in regard to authentic kissing.

[QUOTE=Jungle_Bunny; 1543983]Gentlemen!

5 pages of political commentary, how about back to the main top of Intl SEX GUIDE.

Here is my 2 cents worth. In town for 2 nights. Friday night scene at the Thermae.

Nice mix of English speaking Farang, French / Italians and wow, an influx of Koreans and lots of Japanese. The JPs looked fairly young and are either working men tourists or perhaps someone that lives here. After all, a Japanese salary man would never be caught dead in a girlie bar in shorts and t-shirt. The young Koreans are mostly lookers and gawkers, shy to talk to the girls and kept to them selves. The Singaporeans seemed the most at ease and understood the game. A few old cynical Thai hands but all contribute to the vibe.

Lots of talent standing around. A few real stunners (9+) with attitudes but a lot of 6-8s that were friendly, chatty and reasonable. The market survey ranged from B1500-2500 (about US$ 50-80). The nice thing about the Thermae, at least based on reputation. No Lady Boys allowed. I've heard it both ways on the post ops, but that's another story.

A lot of girls were there after their day jobs, it seems to be a known spot for the ladies and a chance to catch a diamond in the rough or the occasional surprise for the punter.

Call me dense, but for rental, I'd rather have one that looked good enough but willing to go the extra mile than a drop dead gorgeous star fish.

I found me a pair that seemed to get along. We had a few drinks and agreed that I would settle on a choice. They both knew the game. I was supposed to pick one but just ONE. This kept the game competitive. I made them whisper terms and pricing in my ear, a la "dating game" style. We kept it light fun and non-committal. I then introduced an element that there was a wild card. Another hottie was making eye contact after these two didn't appear to close the trade immediately. I got propositioned on the way to the head by a very skilled almost pro. She wanted 2k. Pass, I was having fun just seeing where the night goes.

Keep in kind, I am no Brad Pitt. Just an average bloke, late 40s early 50s, like 70% of the bar.

Back to the two at the table. One was a 7 with a full back tatoo (not my thing, but man was she flirty and just cute as a button. Like something out of a Japanese anime cartoon) , the other had a very stout stocky body with a booty ass and real nice knockers, she promised unlimited activities even in a short term. Such a hard process to choose.

I guess this is the problem with Thai girls. They are small. So take 2 if you can.

Anyway, they are asking if I want short time or long time. Now, this is where I maybe born at night, but not last night. The usual trap here. Punters dilemma. Say short time and they are setting up with the girl friends for an after hours hunt. Say long time, and they get the inevitable phone call 75 min in with an emergency after you've paid them.

Ahhhhhh, Thailand, the land of smiles or was it scams. (One night in Bangkok going in my head)

I told them I could not make up my mind and was about to call it a night. I gave them each few hundred baht for a thank you cab fare (yes, I know it doesn't cost the locals that much, but hey it's like US$7, bar tip / tea money). They both jumped and asked if I was going with the hottie from across the bar (who wanted to horn in) , I said no, told them they were both so nice and I just not bear the thought of disappointing either one, that said, it was time for the hotel.

They offered to both go for ST at B1500 with an option to extend one girl for LT at 1000 more (2500 LT) Sort of trial to see who was better at my pleasure. So we head to the hotel, both girls are damn near giddy to be chosen. We get to the hotel (Dream, behind Robinsons Dept Store. Very G-friendly, yet discrete, classy and frequented by local Thais on business.). I tip the front desk 100 and ask they keep the girls I'd. (It's SOP now, but the desk clerks really take good care with a small incentive)

We get to the room, no mention of money. I ask to put their cell phones with mine in the safe. OK, no hassles. We get to a 3 some vertical soapy scrub. Dream has a big standup glass door shower, no tub! 15 minutes of good scrub and tub, BBBJ from both as a warm up. A little cock on the ass play of the booty butt, the Jap anime is more protective of her ass, she is convinced in the end to allow a little play, just could not convert her to a level service. (Not really intended since there were no condoms in the shower).

Funny thing is the girls would not do lesbian kissing, hard rimming or a-level anal, but pretty much everything else is game. Multiple positions, switch outs, more mouth on cock play, the stocky one got really wet and came. The anime was being a little lazy, so I ate her while the big one was riding cow girl. Damn, I almost got them to kiss when they were sucking my fingers. The anime is hot now, so I started to fuck her hard. Pulled her legs up around her shoulders, she starts to fake moan. I fold her over on the side and pound the flesh. The fake moaning stops and she's holding her voice almost a weird grunt. I pound harder and harder. She let's out a deep groan and pulls the pillow over her head. The groans continue and she's screams a muffled, finish now, finish now. The other one rolls over, spread eagle and says do me, finish inside me. (Oh, I forgot to tell, I promised a B1000 bonus to the one that gets me to cum, trying to keep the game interesting). I roll the anime over on her knees, pound to almost and take it out. She looks over and it's like WTF? I am trying to get the stocky one on her knees to do both in simultaneous doggie style in a back and forth.

The anime has other ideas, she strips off the condom and starts to suck my rod. Damn, it took all my control not to just unload it then and there. The stocky one jumps up and starts tongue on nipple action then pushes the anime out of the way for some hard ball sucking and hand on shaft drive. The anime sticks her tongue on the tip of my cock and both are working hard. I roll over and hold both girls tightly, then proceed to shoot my load on both their faces. A little extra conditioner for the beautiful black hairs on their heads.

They wipe, we rest and cuddle, it's now 2:15 into the session. The girls want to know who will be kept LT, I keep the suspense on until a about of consciousness tells me a.) I really need some sleep. B.) they need to go on and do what they do at almost 3am.

Called down stairs after giving back their phones.

In the end, I give them both B2500, the shooter bonus + ST, they already has B200 can fare and parted a pair of happy hookers!

I figured it was comparable to Eden with a pair of semi-pros. Good change of pace.[/QUOTE]Interesting commmentary. Phones in the safe? LOL, damn cells, what a pain sometimes they can be with these girls. The smarter ones I notice, perhaps after one outbound safety related call, will shut it down.

Do you guys really want to put your tongue into a mouth that has recently been sucking another guy's penis, not to mention licking his arsehole?

I remember the Kangaroo in the late '70s when is was best known for giving blow jobs at the bar. I used to take visitors there for the experience. First guy to come pays for both. One day the mama-san asked me to be a training aid for a new girl who had just arrived from the Isaan. Her cherry was being sold the next day to a Sino-Thai for B6, 000. Today was training day. Since I spoke Thai mama-san offered me a freebie while she taught the new girl how to give a BJ in the back room. A good time was had by all, especially me.

[QUOTE=Western787;1544314]Absolutely. Clean shaven, in shape, well dressed, non-smoker status. Otherwise you are cutting the odds, I agree. Ok, so you're initiating ("just going at it") DFK or LFK and on that basis you get few turndowns. OK, that's not bad. Unless I ask for it specifically upfront which might happen ocassionally if the girl looks exceptionally kissable, normally I just let them make the move in that regard, and I figure about 50% overall excluding the rarer "ask up front" situations. Of course I AM going to no matter what kiss, them in them near the mouth, on the neck, earlobes, and cheeks and so forth, the usual fake kissing things. It either then goes to DFK or LFK or not, and in some cases with certain girls as the session moves along its not something I am always looking for, and part of that relates to the vibe of the session, and whether I sense a hardcore hooker thing as the session moves forward. Hardcore hookers don't exactly appeal to me in regard to authentic kissing.[/QUOTE]On a very few occasions I have had issues with my approach and most of those issues were recently. Recent as in '10 to '11 as I don't really take gogo or FL girls now. I would never really ask girls, now it seems you have to discuss everything, kind of like a working girl in the West, and truthfully I really would rather pass if I have to do that sort of interview.

When I would get to the room and the gal would not want to kiss, let me finger them, etc, I would just get up, put my clothes on, give a very small amount of money, say 100. 200 baht and leave. When the gal asks me what's wrong, I tell her in Thai that I expect her to perform like she is in a porn movie or she as if she is with her boyfriend I also make it very clear that I don't want her to do anything she is not comfortable with and finally I tell that that I am in no sense of the word angry as no one should do what they don't want to do. I only had one girl in 14 years who got horsey with me after. In fact, I still see one or two of these girls out in FL places and they are very friendly to me. I imagine there are many guys who get really aggressive when they are not getting the service they want.

I have found that up until recently sessions could easily be led by the male, now it seems that more and more hookers have "rules." "I don't do this, don't touch me there." Might as well head to a brothel in Nevada if one is going to play that game.

[QUOTE=*****man;1544335]Do you guys really want to put your tongue into a mouth that has recently been sucking another guy's penis, not to mention licking his arsehole?[/QUOTE]As I said, a quick shower, shot of mouthwash, and she is as good as new. Does not even enter into my head. If that bothers a dude, he might want to rethink mongering.

[quote=*****man;1544123]there have been a lot of good things said about crazy house but i've heard the girls are only interested in japanese and asian men. have any posters actually taken one of these crazy house "stunners" or have you just sat on your arses ogling them?[/quote]be very careful if you take a girl from crazy house as quite a lot of them are ****. recently i spoke to a girl who works there. she's in her late thirties and she complained to me that she has to compete with 14 and 15 yo! i said "wtf"?"yes there are girls as young as 14 and 15" she said.

what striked me was that she didn't seem to care much that they are that young. she only complained that she has to compete with them.

[QUOTE=*****man;1544335]Do you guys really want to put your tongue into a mouth that has recently been sucking another guy's penis, not to mention licking his arsehole?[/QUOTE]Despite what read in here, I don't think "rimming" or whatever hell you call it is being done to all or most customers, especially not serially in close proximity by typical providers such as Go Go girls, FLs, and part-timers (Oils perhaps one exception). Even across classes of providers in Bangkok most of their customers I don't believe in fact are mongers per se, and many guys just don't want a girls face in or around their ass- myself included.

Now on the other issue, not much you can do about it unless you just give up DFK and LFK. Lets assume you never kiss providers, well you are still getting a BBBJ from a girl that (under your argument) just gave a BBBJ to another guy, and you're doing FS with them when they just did FS with somebody else. I Lets say you do DATY (perhaps you skip that too?) well that girl may have just went BBFS, and this at times can even include hot Go Go dancers, who for whatever reason sometimes just take it BB

[QUOTE=Western787; 1544407]Despite what read in here, I don't think "rimming" or whatever hell you call it is being done to all or most customers.

(Oils perhaps one exception).

Well that girl may have just went BBFS, and this at times can even include hot Go Go dancers, who for whatever reason sometimes just take it BB[/QUOTE]Regarding rimming, I think you are right. This is an "exotic" service you're more likely to find at Tulip, Eden or from some of the PSE specialists at the oilies. Also, good escorts normally offer rimming. Read the descriptions of services offered and it almost always appears. However, escorts see fewer clients, perhaps only one a day. The good agencies do insist that the clients practice good hygiene. Escorts are adamant that they don't care what a client looks like so long as he is clean. As for the MPs, don't sessions always start in the shower or bath?

Regarding bareback, I mentioned in a post some time ago that a while back a fellow on ISG, whom I believe to be Thai, exchanged some PMs with me. He said he was a friend of several MP girls. He claimed bareback is much more common than many guys realize. According to him, virtually all the girls at the more hardcore MPs do bareback on a very regular basis; basically, if the clients insists they oblige. He also said all of them periodically contract STDs; and large numbers of them have hepatitis B, which they are not treating.

Our hobby is not without risks. It's best to balance having fun and playing safe.

[QUOTE=Western787; 1544407]Despite what read in here, I don't think "rimming" or whatever hell you call it is being done to all or most customers, especially not serially in close proximity by typical providers such as Go Go girls, FLs, and part-timers (Oils perhaps one exception). Even across classes of providers in Bangkok most of their customers I don't believe in fact are mongers per se, and many guys just don't want a girls face in or around their ass- myself included.

Now on the other issue, not much you can do about it unless you just give up DFK and LFK. Lets assume you never kiss providers, well you are still getting a BBBJ from a girl that (under your argument) just gave a BBBJ to another guy, and you're doing FS with them when they just did FS with somebody else. I Lets say you do DATY (perhaps you skip that too?) well that girl may have just went BBFS, and this at times can even include hot Go Go dancers, who for whatever reason sometimes just take it BB[/QUOTE]Never thought I would be into being rimmed, but after having it done a couple of times at Tulip back in the day, I must admit I really want it on the menu. I have found that if you rim the gal, she is likely to get the hint and rim you. You would be surprised at how many gals will.

[QUOTE=Paul Kausch; 1544419]According to him, virtually all the girls at the more hardcore MPs do bareback on a very regular basis; basically, if the clients insists they oblige. He also said all of them periodically contract STDs; and large numbers of them have hepatitis B, which they are not treating.

Our hobby is not without risks. It's best to balance having fun and playing safe.[/QUOTE]Some will even initiate it. Getting that Hep B series of vaccines is important for mongers. Yep, there is a risk, but as you say, if you play safe you can minimize it.

I for once follow the struggle some guys inside here meet when dealing with our dear prostitutes. I am aware I don't usualy meet the most hardned women out there ex on occation a Beergarden girl or two (sometimes) , as I put a no to streetwalkers, bargirls, go go girls etc (and yes I know there are some BG, GO GO, MP's wandering into the FL market in the clubs after their shift ends but even so). Mostly I cater to the FL segment visiting BKK nightclubs when we speak about P4P.

As I invest some time pre screening ladies in the clubs and build good chemistry through spendings, drinking and having fun I rarly have problems when the sex part begins. When having a good time and make the girls feel comfortable and even get them a bit tipsy I almost with very rare exceptions get a great experience from them. Some even go the extra mile to try give PSE effort. When they feel comfortable they do rimming (not all ofcourse but the greater part does) , around 80, give or take a few, are up for A+. DFK, DATY and BBBJ I see as a natural thing so I don't give it to much thought realy. But for guys dealing with ST girls I can see the point of getting last customers cum in your mouth as not to tempting.

I think I can count on one hand over the years girls wanting me to rubber up but to unknown girls I allways rubber up when doing A+ and ofcourse Beergarden girls. So as some mongers state the girls getting more and more proffesional and gives out the menu (what they do or not) seems not to effect me so far, thanks god, as I know I would have hated that. Infact my impression is that the nightclub FL market is blooming like never before and a lot of new faces turns up every night (atleast according to management I now know quite well a few places). I am not in town every night so would have hard time view it on my own.

I for once think we see more and more girls wanting to be their own bosses and don't like beeing part of lets say the BF system anymore. Maby they even get themself a dayjob and only hit clubs once or twice a week to have some extra cashflow? If so fine by me.