FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2756105]I just spoke with 2 men in Sauna club Penelope in Dortmund tonight and they told me that as of yesterday the Sharks owners asked the girls to drop their price down to $70 from $100 to try and bring back customers.

Can anyone verify this?

They showed me some comments about it on another German site.

I was in Sharks last week and the prices were still $100.

I'll head back to Sharks in 2 days to confirm.[/QUOTE]I don't know if true, but when Sharks management made the most improvement since 2014 compare to any other club and I like the club, but when I visited weekly on 2021, I don't visit often on this year because of low casting for looks, behavior and too expensive rate for value which will fuck Sharks business, like Oase girls made Oase almost empty most often. I find higher level girls for less expensive in NRW and 6 ens NL and some are very busy. 100/30 with no real kissing for most and 150/200/60 is too much expensive for looks and far below my GFE in bed. I spent only less than 4 hours in room on this year, the only on my level was German Sofi, but 200/60 is too expensive. German Vanessa was nice but no wow in bed. 2 Germans without silicon and model type.

[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2756105]I just spoke with 2 men in Sauna club Penelope in Dortmund tonight and they told me that as of yesterday the Sharks owners asked the girls to drop their price down to $70 from $100 to try and bring back customers.

Can anyone verify this?

They showed me some comments about it on another German site.

I was in Sharks last week and the prices were still $100.

I'll head back to Sharks in 2 days to confirm.[/QUOTE]Officially it still was Euro 50 for half hour and 100 for 1 hour, but most girls added +50 for any decent service (if you are lucky.)

Now the official price is raised +20 to 70 euro for half hour, let's see if the girls then offer decent service (including DFK and BBBJ) for this.

In some NRW clubs the price has been raised to 60 or 65 for half hour also.

[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2756105]I just spoke with 2 men in Sauna club Penelope in Dortmund tonight and they told me that as of yesterday the Sharks owners asked the girls to drop their price down to $70 from $100 to try and bring back customers.

Can anyone verify this?[/QUOTE]I can [U]not[/U] confirm this and I doubt that this is true, but this would be a sensible thing to do.

Recently I was in Sharks [I]during a weekend[/I] and I was shocked how empty it was. I arrived at my usual time of around 13:00-14:00 and the club was already unusually quiet, but even at 23:00 at night it was still relatively empty, no waiting times for rooms, many girls sitting by themselves looking bored whilst many other (ugly) girls aggressively approached me because they simply lack business. Even some IMO arrogant girls who normally always sit around ignoring all men (sitting at the beginning of the bar from the left hand side near the 'German Table' towards the stripper pole) and only chatting with each other were now approaching me asking for a room. Every time I walked around the back end of the bar (the area towards the toilets, former Kino) I was aggressively approached, even multiple times by the same girl on the same evening.

Both Sharks management and the WGs have shot themselves in the foot in their short-sighted attempt to quickly make some quick money from entrance fees (management) and by fleecing dumb sex tourists (WGs) by charging ridiculous prices like 100-30 150-60 and now even 200-60!

The Sharks management has basically let everybody enter the club; ugly sharky women hoping to rip off male customers, and rude uncivilized male customers. The irony is that now it's biting them in the ass because the smarter men are staying away: too many proletarian males and too many ugly girls charging phantasy prices of 100-30 or even 200-60 for with an increased risk of receiving bad service.

[I]Regardless of inflation[/I] 100 Euros for a quickie suck & fuck is simply way too expensive in order to have an evening of fun trying new girls with the increased danger of being ripped off, so this does not motivate most German men to pay 65 Euros for a visit to Sharks and drive all the way to Darmstadt. On a side note: perhaps most American and Asian tourists do not notice or don't know the difference, but when you look in the car park you see many German number plates (the first 1, 2 or 3 letters indicate the Landeskreis where the car is registered) from areas 1 to even 1,5 hours driving from Darmstadt, and my guess is that many of these guys simply stay away when they have a few bad experiences of wasting a lot of money on a bad line up and shitty service with upselling.

For personal reasons, I won't comment here anymore on the girls I have taken to a room, you can PM me for more info.

[QUOTE=Maxime;2756227]Officially it still was Euro 50 for half hour and 100 for 1 hour, but most girls added +50 for any decent service (if you are lucky.)

Now the official price is raised +20 to 70 euro for half hour, let's see if the girls then offer decent service (including DFK and BBBJ) for this.

In some NRW clubs the price has been raised to 60 or 65 for half hour also.[/QUOTE]In my close to five decades of being a customer in this business I have never known of prices dropping in an establishment.

[QUOTE=Maxime;2756227]Officially it still was Euro 50 for half hour and 100 for 1 hour, but most girls added +50 for any decent service (if you are lucky.)

Now the official price is raised +20 to 70 euro for half hour, let's see if the girls then offer decent service (including DFK and BBBJ) for this.

In some NRW clubs the price has been raised to 60 or 65 for half hour also.[/QUOTE]Although the price might be "unofficially" 50 E, that doesn't include BBBJ. And I wasn't quoted any 50 E starting prices last week by any of the girls, so you must be smoking crack!

The price for basic (lite kissing, BBBJ, CFS) is 100 E.

This price was dropped to 70 E according to my sources.

Just looking for confirmation. If anyone was there yesterday or today.

[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2756105]I just spoke with 2 men in Sauna club Penelope in Dortmund tonight and they told me that as of yesterday the Sharks owners asked the girls to drop their price down to $70 from $100 to try and bring back customers.

Can anyone verify this?

They showed me some comments about it on another German site.

I was in Sharks last week and the prices were still $100.

I'll head back to Sharks in 2 days to confirm.[/QUOTE]There is still a small amount of ladies that offer the old club rates of 50€ for 30 minutes but obviously these are not the stunners although I gather they do give a very good service.

I'm planning to visit on Wednesday so I will find out for myself if many girls have dropped the new rates of 100/30 & 150/60.

[QUOTE=Canary;2756330]There is still a small amount of ladies that offer the old club rates of 50 for 30 minutes but obviously these are not the stunners although I gather they do give a very good service.

I'm planning to visit on Wednesday so I will find out for myself if many girls have dropped the new rates of 100/30 & 150/60.[/QUOTE]Good man Canary, we are looking forward to your report. Good luck, hope you have a good time.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2756260]I can [U]not[/U] confirm this and I doubt that this is true, but this would be a sensible thing to do.

Recently I was in Sharks [I]during a weekend[/I] and I was shocked how empty it was. I arrived at my usual time of around 13:00-14:00 and the club was already unusually quiet, but even at 23:00 at night it was still relatively empty, no waiting times for rooms, many girls sitting by themselves looking bored whilst many other (ugly) girls aggressively approached me because they simply lack business. Even some IMO arrogant girls who normally always sit around ignoring all men (sitting at the beginning of the bar from the left hand side near the 'German Table' towards the stripper pole) and only chatting with each other were now approaching me asking for a room. Every time I walked around the back end of the bar (the area towards the toilets, former Kino) I was aggressively approached, even multiple times by the same girl on the same evening.

Both Sharks management and the WGs have shot themselves in the foot in their short-sighted attempt to quickly make some quick money from entrance fees (management) and by fleecing dumb sex tourists (WGs) by charging ridiculous prices like 100-30 150-60 and now even 200-60!

The Sharks management has basically let everybody enter the club; ugly sharky women hoping to rip off male customers, and rude uncivilized male customers. The irony is that now it's biting them in the ass because the smarter men are staying away: too many proletarian males and too many ugly girls charging phantasy prices of 100-30 or even 200-60 for with an increased risk of receiving bad service.

[I]Regardless of inflation[/I] 100 Euros for a quickie suck & fuck is simply way too expensive in order to have an evening of fun trying new girls with the increased danger of being ripped off, so this does not motivate most German men to pay 65 Euros for a visit to Sharks and drive all the way to Darmstadt. On a side note: perhaps most American and Asian tourists do not notice or don't know the difference, but when you look in the car park you see many German number plates (the first 1, 2 or 3 letters indicate the Landeskreis where the car is registered) from areas 1 to even 1,5 hours driving from Darmstadt, and my guess is that many of these guys simply stay away when they have a few bad experiences of wasting a lot of money on a bad line up and shitty service with upselling.

For personal reasons, I won't comment here anymore on the girls I have taken to a room, you can PM me for more info.[/QUOTE]All Must Die.

Let them starve out.

What was once the demise of Oase and Palace is now Sharks.

Nobody should be paying 150/60.

I notice this White guy from New Jersey taking a Big Fat Black lady to the room.

Sharks has becoming the ErosCenter in downtown Frankfurt.

Sharks is a good club for me, for foods, jacuzzi, garden, but looks don't worth rate they ask, so I go elsewhere for better value and quality. Just easy.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2756260]I can [U]not[/U] confirm this and I doubt that this is true, but this would be a sensible thing to do.

Recently I was in Sharks [I]during a weekend[/I] and I was shocked how empty it was. I arrived at my usual time of around 13:00-14:00 and the club was already unusually quiet, but even at 23:00 at night it was still relatively empty, no waiting times for rooms, many girls sitting by themselves looking bored whilst many other (ugly) girls aggressively approached me because they simply lack business. Even some IMO arrogant girls who normally always sit around ignoring all men (sitting at the beginning of the bar from the left hand side near the 'German Table' towards the stripper pole) and only chatting with each other were now approaching me asking for a room. Every time I walked around the back end of the bar (the area towards the toilets, former Kino) I was aggressively approached, even multiple times by the same girl on the same evening.

Both Sharks management and the WGs have shot themselves in the foot in their short-sighted attempt to quickly make some quick money from entrance fees (management) and by fleecing dumb sex tourists (WGs) by charging ridiculous prices like 100-30 150-60 and now even 200-60!

The Sharks management has basically let everybody enter the club; ugly sharky women hoping to rip off male customers, and rude uncivilized male customers. The irony is that now it's biting them in the ass because the smarter men are staying away: too many proletarian males and too many ugly girls charging phantasy prices of 100-30 or even 200-60 for with an increased risk of receiving bad service.

[I]Regardless of inflation[/I] 100 Euros for a quickie suck & fuck is simply way too expensive in order to have an evening of fun trying new girls with the increased danger of being ripped off, so this does not motivate most German men to pay 65 Euros for a visit to Sharks and drive all the way to Darmstadt. On a side note: perhaps most American and Asian tourists do not notice or don't know the difference, but when you look in the car park you see many German number plates (the first 1, 2 or 3 letters indicate the Landeskreis where the car is registered) from areas 1 to even 1,5 hours driving from Darmstadt, and my guess is that many of these guys simply stay away when they have a few bad experiences of wasting a lot of money on a bad line up and shitty service with upselling.

For personal reasons, I won't comment here anymore on the girls I have taken to a room, you can PM me for more info.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SobeLizard;2756382]

Sharks has becoming the ErosCenter in downtown Frankfurt.[/QUOTE]Exactly.

"Pay more for less service" seems to be the way Millennials and Asian-American sex tourists have been brainwashed.

I wonder if they do the same when they buy a car:

Sales guy: "sir, this mediocre car. The sales brochure says that it's "great" but in reality it has a questionable fuel economy / EV range and shitty road handling, and will cost you $65 k".

Dumbfuck: "let me suck your dick and pay you $70 k, this way I'll get better fuel economy / EV range and a better driving experience. ".

A couple of plandemic years later.

Dumbfuck: "oh no, shock, horror, now the same mediocre car costs $100 k and has even worse fuel economy / EV range and shitty road handling. I will let the sales guy fuck me in the ass (no lube of course) and pay him $130 k, this way I will hopefully get better fuel economy / EV range and a better driving experience. ".

Or when they go to a restaurant:

Reputation: "People say that this restaurant is pretty bad and that the quality of food has done down the drain over the last few years since the previous cook quit. ".

Dumbfuck: "let me pay 2 x the price that is listed on the menu and promise the waitress a 50% tip, that way I will get better food and service. ".

Or buying an airline ticket:

News: "this airline has crashed 5 times in the last 2 years, has very bad maintenance and hired poorly trained pilots".

Dumbfuck: "I'm a Snowflake Millennial and I feel very special and different, I'm sure that if I pay lots of extra money for my flight then the odds will magically and immediately improve in my favour.

Can't fix stupid, LOL!

[QUOTE=SobeLizard;2756382]All Must Die.

Let them starve out.

What was once the demise of Oase and Palace is now Sharks.

Nobody should be paying 150/60.

I notice this White guy from New Jersey taking a Big Fat Black lady to the room.

Sharks has becoming the ErosCenter in downtown Frankfurt.[/QUOTE]150/60 for a super beauty able to kiss and to get a Caucasian wolf inside of her like a woman, I can pay, but not for most Sharks looks on this year when some ask 150/30 , or 200 or more for 1 hour and some pay, even some Germans. Like Oase girls did, Sharks girls may fuck their own business and also for club with less entry. I visit much less often, Sharks could be on my way to climb Zoncolan tomorrow, but can t compete with some beauties at Freubad, so I will take risk to enter Switzerland.

[QUOTE=SobeLizard;2756382]......I notice this White guy from New Jersey taking a Big Fat Black lady to the room.....[/QUOTE]He travelled all the way to Europe for that when he could have made a short trip to the Dominican Republic and have got many for a fraction of the price of one in FKK?

[QUOTE=SobeLizard;2756382]All Must Die.

Let them starve out.

What was once the demise of Oase and Palace is now Sharks.

Nobody should be paying 150/60.

I notice this White guy from New Jersey taking a Big Fat Black lady to the room.

Sharks has becoming the ErosCenter in downtown Frankfurt.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2756457]Exactly.

"Pay more for less service" seems to be the way Millennials and Asian-American sex tourists have been brainwashed.

I wonder if they do the same when they buy a car:

Sales guy: "sir, this mediocre car. The sales brochure says that it's "great" but in reality it has a questionable fuel economy / EV range and shitty road handling, and will cost you $65 k".

Dumbfuck: "let me suck your dick and pay you $70 k, this way I'll get better fuel economy / EV range and a better driving experience. ".

A couple of plandemic years later.

Dumbfuck: "oh no, shock, horror, now the same mediocre car costs $100 k and has even worse fuel economy / EV range and shitty road handling. I will let the sales guy fuck me in the ass (no lube of course) and pay him $130 k, this way I will hopefully get better fuel economy / EV range and a better driving experience. ".

Or when they go to a restaurant:

Reputation: "People say that this restaurant is pretty bad and that the quality of food has done down the drain over the last few years since the previous cook quit. ".

Dumbfuck: "let me pay 2 x the price that is listed on the menu and promise the waitress a 50% tip, that way I will get better food and service. ".

Or buying an airline ticket:

News: "this airline has crashed 5 times in the last 2 years, has very bad maintenance and hired poorly trained pilots".

Dumbfuck: "I'm a Snowflake Millennial and I feel very special and different, I'm sure that if I pay lots of extra money for my flight then the odds will magically and immediately improve in my favour.

Can't fix stupid, LOL![/QUOTE]From our standards at home, almost all Romanians are pretty and cheap for US compare to what they see at home, so they spend to fly from very far, when I would go to escorts in Canada: Quebec and Montreal. Asians run to any fake blond with white skin and think they are lucky girls go with them and gossiping specialists more than with their size. Not enough pretty girls seen on my 2022 visits at Sharks, from my french standards when every day I see wow looks in Paris. Some of the youngest best looking go and pay for plastic granny when I would not go even I would be given 1000 , maybe I m too old to be attracted? When I feel hard each time I push start button hearing sound of thunder V8 prepared by Fochesato, but I will prepare more.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2756260]
[I]Regardless of inflation[/I] 100 Euros for a quickie suck & fuck is simply way too expensive[/QUOTE]Yes 100 euros for 30 minutes (most people don't even last 30 minutes) is expensive, you could get 1 full night with a woman in Thailand for that. However, Caucasian women will never be cheap no matter where you go. The only solution is to start seeing non-whites (Thailand, Brazil, DR, Colombia), because whites are never going to be the cheapest on the market.

[QUOTE=SobeLizard;2756382]Sharks has becoming the ErosCenter in downtown Frankfurt.[/QUOTE]If they keep allowing any woman to work there, then yes. I really enjoy sharks, but the eye sore of so many fat women (they like to hangout in the back of the bar) is too much. And it's worst if they hound you. Women should not be allowed to harass customers.

I will still go to sharks in the future, but I do understand the gripes folks have.

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2757075]Yes 100 euros for 30 minutes (most people don't even last 30 minutes) is expensive, you could get 1 full night with a woman in Thailand for that. However, Caucasian women will never be cheap no matter where you go. The only solution is to start seeing non-whites (Thailand, Brazil, DR, Colombia), because whites are never going to be the cheapest on the market.

If they keep allowing any woman to work there, then yes. I really enjoy sharks, but the eye sore of so many fat women (they like to hangout in the back of the bar) is too much. And it's worst if they hound you. Women should not be allowed to harass customers.

I will still go to sharks in the future, but I do understand the gripes folks have.[/QUOTE]

I think what become the concern of seasonal mongerers here is that, the insensible price hike. A few months ago you could still get EUR50/30 now it seems EUR100/30. That is of 100% increase, while people incomes, salaries wages have not increased that much, the inflation is not that steep. The more sensible approach might be to increase it 20% for instance making it EUR60/30. For EUR 100/30 why would you want to travel if you could get similar result to that on your doorsteps. Keep in mind while for for some people, it will mean the cost of fuels. For other people might be the flight, accommodation, taxis / local transport. Add that to the final price that you will pay.

And we have already seen the backlash, where few people are going to the room, complain from the girls of lack of customers, etc.

Local people is the bread and butter of FKK. If they stop visiting FKKs, Stop going to the room, it ia only a matter of time before we see the FKKS disappear from Germany. Similar to what we have witnessed in Amsterdam. Also the current trend in Warsaw, Prague, etc.

Regarding, Caucasian women, well head to Greece forum. In Metaxx, Filis Areas in Athens many Russians, EE girls are still offering EUR30 for short term.

This is not a direct comparison but some of these girls are doing porns, GB parties and they are getting paid much less than that for comparative services (e. G BBFS-CIP, DAP, spanking, humiliation, GB by three giants cocks simultaneously, etc).