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actually that whole street starting from the subway station down to the last anma are ALL places that provide sexual services. its not just anmas on that block.

[QUOTE=Brain666]Dear friends,
want to keep you updated about my next actions.

I read much from you about the 'anma center' in Janhanpeong.

So last Saturday I finally went to there by subway-
Line 5, stop 543 and exit 2.
Guys what nobody told so far: its a long way to walk - at least more then expected for somebody who was reading reports, that the touts catch you at the subway station already.

So I went down the road about 1+ km to get to the anma center (follow the lights). Really many anmas (the only sign I can read in Korean so far is 'anma'). Near the center I was then approached by some touts, but rather decent. All claiming 150 kW. Finally went with somebody to a place called 'kings sports massage'. rd. Floor in a side alley. Paid 150 kW (did not negotiate, but I will do it next time as you probably get it for 110-120 as well). Rather like a hotel reception. Paid and was let to a room where I waited about 5 min. for the girl.

The room was better then 'paradise anma' in Yeoksam where I have been before. Girl came and I was asked to put off clothes and was guided to lay on a high bed. She gave massage, more the medicine type one.

Then was let to the wet area of the bathroom where she washed me from both sides. Some blow job with a lot of disinfector fluid. Then in the bath top with a seat cushion. Teeth brush.

Then out, dry up and to the bed where the body to body massage started. Ended going to the next step: means putting the condom on and the sex part. 2 Positions until I came.

The girl: after my first rather unpleasant anma visit, this time there was no complaint with regard to ‘dick to big for Pussy’. So the actual sex session was longer and more intensive.
However she was more schedule driven ‘following the anma instruction and process book’ ‘strictly’. No emotions, she was doing the duty. And she met all probably all the duty actions in time. Short DATY accepted, but she stopped after recognizing that her body started some recognition to my DATY. No DFK- she said no kissing clearly.
Overall this experience was better then my first anma visit. Both in terms of performance and cost (Performance up and damage down), however still far away from what I want to have.
Rating: Girl looks: 7- , Performance: 7

Considering that with some bargain I might have this type of performance for about 110-120 kW, it's overall a better option then the RLD rush 70k 15 min.

They take care of me for about 1h and I will be really clean after that, and the sex is les time oriented, even if she managed to get me out after 55 minutes incl. Dressing.

Resume: So my second anma experience was better as the first one, but still far behind my expectation. I will be continuously reporting. Next might be another upscale 200k anma in buchang-dong searching for better performance.

I will keep you updated.

Brain666[/QUOTE]

that i would think would be the most lucrative for their time. 70,000 for 20 minutes as opposed to 90,000 at jangahnpyung for an hour and 180 for an hour at an anma.

[QUOTE=Brain666]Coming back from a short walk trough last Sunday morning through the Jongsan RLD at about 13:00h (just passing as I needed to go to the electronics market) already a few girls 'opened their shops'. Among maybe 6-8 active ones have been 2 which I would have taken immediately if given time.

From Europe I would never consider this street action. Usually the lowest class do this 'pop and hop' service.

Can anybody axplain how it happens that real 1 class lookers are among them and why those don't get other possibilities?

I would expect such a beauty more in upscale clubs. Or do they earn really good in the RLD's, compared to e.g. anma?

Somebody here who can explain?

Regards

Brain666[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AMPM]that i would think would be the most lucrative for their time. 70,000 for 20 minutes as opposed to 90,000 at jangahnpyung for an hour and 180 for an hour at an anma.[/QUOTE]

That's because anma is harder than RLD stuff.

Walking around the RLDs I can say that there is definitely racism in the Korean sex-trade. It is quite obvious when one does not get a look from the girls in the windows, while Korean and Japanese men are enthusiastically waved at and called out to. I got propositioned only by the mamasans seated in the alley ways during quieter hours earlier in the evening. Even then when I entered or as was exiting the curtains were drawn close so that I would not be seen by other punters who would be put off with the girl having entertained a 'foreigner'. The girls I chose did not seem pleased to have been chosen and were quite mechanical in their service and language is a big barrier. Still I can now say that I have had a couple of Korean girls.

Dear Friends, ready to report of weekend activities.

Friday night I could not get the two 8-9s out of my head which I saw last Sunday in Yongsan RLD while I just did a walk through.

I needed one of them for a quicky even if I don’t like the rush rush of the RLD’s so much.

So went there at about 10 p.m. and one of them was there.

Ok, entrance to the rear room, paying the 70kW and wait until she comes back with a bowl of water. Down the clothes, washing my dick and up to the bed.
She lost about 0,5 from the rating when you are really close, got a bit older then estimated from outside, but still a 8 if you like the more tall and little (!) skinny types.

She kissed my chest and my dick and did start a BBBJ for some seconds but almost immediately covered it with this ‘condom mouth to dick technique’ she could do pretty well.

After that she came over me and put my dick into her pussy which was less tight then expected, considering the small chest (but no wonder by this bfrequency). Changed position to missionary and doggy, but I couldn’t come so quickly- she already looked at the clock sometimes.

Managed to come after she gave me her pussy again for licking and then she came sitting on again.

Resume: In total the service was ok by RLD’s standards, but my first service 2 weeks ago was a bit better, but not having an 8 body. Again the RLD is not really my world, I better pay some 50 k more to have a 1h service in Yanhanpyeong.

Regards

Brain666

Dear Friends, Don’t want you to miss my Saturday night Anma visit

This time I followed the rule: Go there and do what other monger friends recommend.

So I headed to TEHERAN which was already mentioned here sometimes.

Easy to find following Big Kahuna instruction.

[QUOTE=Big Kahuna]Directions
Go to the Seolleung subway station on line #2.
Take exit #10 walk straight ahead till the third street.
Turn left and take the first left (alley) The an ma will be on your right.
BK[/QUOTE]Just to add that Teheran is written in Latin Letters= readable and its on the 4th floor.

So I enter at floor 4. Friendly welcome, she quoted 20k but of course meant 200k.
Paid and was guided down 1 floor in one of the rooms. Room itself was rather not better then the one in ‘Kings sports massage’ in Yanhanpyeong last week, but comparable.

Who was really better was the girl they dispatched. Somewhere between 8 and 9, lets say 8,5. Nice figure, perfect formed tits to my taste, which is not the total big ones but rather fits into a good western sized hand. Nice chest and ass. It was as I like it, and I just reserve the 9-10 rating for some hope of more to come. With about 5 cm more size I would have rated her 9.

Anyhow rather good. She started the Anma course giving me a refreshing mask for my face (with holes in it for eyes, nose and mouth). She noticed that my tooth nails were not in condition of her standards and cut them carefully. My fingernails passed her inspection without correction.

Then move to the filled bathtub (she had started filling right after entrance), sit inside while tooth brushing. She sat on the frame of the bathtub but didn’t come in.
Then to the chair washing, which she did rather carefully and good.

Then dry up and to the chair beside the bed, where she started a tit and pussy to skin ‘massage’ incl. ball licking.

Next step on the bed face down: She made the typical tit and pussy to skin rub, but this really good. Her tits felt nice on my skin. Then licking and ‘biting’ the rear side incl. about 3 min ass licking – rather good. Turn around, the same from the front, sensitive ball licking and immediately the condom to dick by moth, which I almost didn’t noticed if she didn’t have had problems with the length (Korean size condom length), but finally the covered area was ok. So no BBBJ, but almost didn’t notice that it was CBJ.

After that she put my dick into her pussy and rode on me. What a feel: The missing BBBJ was compensated by a perfect pussy feel, tight and ‘welcoming’. The same in missionary and back again riding and back missionary. The tight pussy made me come before I could change to doggy position. Unfortunately she did not like DATY and no DFK was possible.

Resume: Overall the best experience so far. This is my world. If I manage to find such a girl including BBBJ, DATY, DFK I am finished with my search.

I learned 3 important Korean words with my almost nothing skill.

‘Gotschu’ = Dick, ‘Tanchi’ = pussy, ‘kassum’= breast (correct me If I am wrong)

Regards

Brain666

Long time lurker, first time poster. Paid a visit to S. Korea in spring of 2004 and the RLD scene at Mirari and 588 was well and alive. What's the current status now since the crackdown? I will be paying another visit to S. Korea in the coming weeks. No one recently has mentioned anything about Mirari. Has it been shut down completely? Are there still sweeps and arrests made?

I am considering putting a team together to venture off into the mongering depths of seoul as well las the rest of korea...possibly all over asia if resources permit. Looking for people with an adventurous spirit and at least an intermediate level in speaking korean. other languages welcome as i would eventually want to take this global. Hit me up on the PM.

[QUOTE=AMPM]I am considering putting a team together to venture off into the mongering depths of seoul as well las the rest of korea...possibly all over asia if resources permit. Looking for people with an adventurous spirit and at least an intermediate level in speaking korean. other languages welcome as i would eventually want to take this global. Hit me up on the PM.[/QUOTE]

Where you want to venture?
Just beers will be ok for me talking about P4P actions, but no action for me and my Korean will be the best among the forum members because I am a Korean. LOL;

[QUOTE=Cocoroso]Koreas are no racist. They are not xenophobic like white people, but they do not want to see foreigners at P4P places. The reason is that korean people think no matter the AIDS rate in other countries accepting other nationalities have high potential of transmiting AIDS. I think this all is the same because I have been to about 20 countries and had P4P actions in Europe and America but I felt that western and American people prefer to have white people customers because of their little racism. Anyway, I don't want to go further with this subject but my point is korean people do not like western people's P4P not because of their racism, but because of their fear of AIDS and STDs.

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NO my friend , you are wrong.
its because Its bad business!
you see Korean men dont want to see a foreigner walking out of a shop with a grin on his face. Even though that korean man himself is probably married he doesnt want to see a foreigner having sex with one of his woman. ALSO
he will not enter the shop of the girl who just serviced the foriegner, not becuase fear of aids. But becuase of inferiority! if he goes in after a foreigner he will think less of himself! Korean men are already worried about their manhood, and sexual style. last thing they need is to do seconds after a foreigner!
Koreans are racist! not only about foreigners with their woman! but with everything! and very xenophobic , this is common practice in the business sector in korea! dealing with Korean businessmen I get this all too often!
the japanese are no different too. they are more open though but still dont like foreigners doing their woman due to the manhood issue!
if koreans or japanese men know that a woman they are paying to have sex with has been with a foreigner their inferiority will ruin their sexual experience.
the girls dont care! they want money. thats why they are there after all.
most of the women in the RLD scene are forced so their pimps dont allow them to take foreigners for business reason!
they dont want their shop tarnished!
they will rather sleep with an old 75 year old man or a retarded person than sleep with a good looking 30's white man!
yes they will take the retard over brad pitt!

Its korean men who dont use condoms! they are the ones who go to thailand and bang the girls there without condoms too and then go to Korea and bang the rld guys without condoms! which foreigner would not use a condom at a rld?

SO there you have it..
now sure.. the pimps would have told the girls dont touch foreigners! they all have AIDS and STDS! they are dirty! propaganda! fact is..most foreigners will treat them nicer. and do them Better. and Korean men are afraid once they realise this, the girls will not dislike it and happily take foreigners which they want to! I mean I think most girls knows! AMERICAN MEN are something great , they still believe in what they see in hollywood! American men aids carrying STD dirty men? I dont think so.
and most girls know their pimps are telling them BS. about the aids and stds!
its all for business once you understand the asian mind. you will understand how business works here..

I call bullshit. Brain666 and I, two foreigners both, just walked out of a Bukchang-dong room salon with grins on our faces, and nobody gave us a second look. Especially not the pimps.

[QUOTE=SeoulSurvivor]I call bullshit. Brain666 and I, two foreigners both, just walked out of a Bukchang-dong room salon with grins on our faces, and nobody gave us a second look. Especially not the pimps.[/QUOTE]

now I didnt say EVERY place! and secondly that is a roomsalon! its VERY different! why dont you and 666 try to get a score at 588 on friday night around midnight! see how far you get!!
room salons are OPEN for foreigners ! I never said they werent!
but RLD windows is what I am talking about it..A rows etc.. are closed 90% of the time for the reasons I stated below..


selected room salons for foreigners and selected girls..
judging by some of the pics you posted.. you are getting the 6 and 7's in the selected places you go.. im assuming you fequent regular places..?
why is this? becuase many places you are not welcome! or will not get the same service as Koreans get? why is this? I think I have explained it..

so before you post and cry BS.. why not read what I wrote and what I was talking about.. IM sure you get laid all over city! flash enough money around and certain places will accept you.. but I am not doubting you getting laid
I was talking about why Koreans dont accept foreigners.. and its NOT AIDS!
if you wish to debate on this.. then please give me an opinion on what you think the reasons are.. IM open to hear it..

I have had some hassle outside of RLDs around Korea. I stepped out of a window girls in Busan (in Haeundae) and this Korean guy called me a dog baby. Now why he would do that I have no idea. I wanted to rearrange his face but luckily for me my friend grabbed me and stayed between us as I am sure I would have been hauled down to the cop shop. My question is......Why would someone say this? I would also add I am alot bigger then this guy and would have pounded his face in, in seconds. I have been in Korea for a while and I have never understood this.


Now this is one story but I have others........


Try Green street in Busan........most of the ajumas will not even look at you and the ones that will have the sorriest looking chicks in Korea.


Thats my two cents

Hey, why are you replying to Cocoroco's post from January? Why are you bringing up another bad-blooded discussion about how racists Koreans are?

I agree wholeheartedly that it's all business reasons that these women and pimps refuse white folks. I think I said this in January too. They refuse white and blacks because their customers don't like it. I also said Korea doesn't want to become another Thailand, I. E. Another international sex destination, so Korean police may crack down if they feel like it. Police has the business scared of allowing foreigners. This is first business reason: no sex destination, so no foreigners.

The second prominent business reason is the Korean's fear aids from foreigners. First, I don't know why you suggests Korean guys have more aids than Americans. Korea doesn't have needle-sharing problem like those of drug users in USA or blood doners in China. I haven't heard any epidemic, or about world health agencies crying foul of how they are hiding aids patient counts in Korea. From my understanding after reading the news, Korea (and Japan) has relatively low rate of HIV. I am not saying anything about other sexual diseases but HIV, stuff that's most bothersome to people, is low in Korea. Even if it's truly under-reported, the point is Korean guys still have the perception that their Korean girls are hiv-free, hence they like to keep it that way. It's all perception, and perception is that they don't have it and you guys likely do. Of course, it's propaganda, but it's still about aids!

What sexual styles? How many styles can you get? How many positions? What? Whites give women more loving than Koreans? "Do them better"? What. Size? And, mine is pretty big, but you are telling me white guys know how to use it better? Hein?

They are not worried about manlihood vis-a-vis other races. They are into showing how they are manly period! They are in macho shit and intensely competitive and territorial. Americans are too, but it just shows up in different ways in Korea. They don't like outsiders taking their territory - I. E. 'their' women, and a white guy, more easily so than another Korean guy, are considered outsiders. It's xenophobia, pure and simple, and nothing to do with their sexual prowess. (WTF? ) Like I said, I went to a club where Koreans hanged out, I got the same competitive reaction when hanging out with what they thought were their girls. I stated earlier that some of these people are bunch of irrational, hothead fughers. I admit Koreans (not me) are bit racist, xenophobic, what have you. And even possibly more than Americans. I can't disagree with that, but.

But, saying that Americans are not racist, I don't know about that. You don't know what kind of shit I had to go through living in America (and Europe and Latin America in travels) and what kind of perception that we have to overcome.

American men are better? Then, why does it appear that most Korean women prefer their own folks than whites? Besides the macho problemactic assholes, there are many successful (Korean girls are materialistic), good-looking, and nice Korean guys - whom they will get along with better, communicate better, like the same things more, fit in and get parents approval for. Yes, there are many Korean guys who are very good with women. They cook for women and literally do anything for them - until they get married, of course.

I don't want to over-generalize, but if I had to generalize, white guys can't tell one Korean person from another and who is good-looking or not. Could it be that those girls you find preferring Americans are actually b-girls and that they struck out socially and p4p business-wise with Koreans? I have seen maybe one (only one) very good looking, stylish Korean girl with a white person while I was many months in Korea. I seriously doubt that Korean guys are worried about their women preferring white Americans over them, unless they're losers themselves.

And, remember that xenophobia (or comfort of being with their own) extend to Korean women too, and it's also them who are perpetuating the status quo.

Your post had some good ideas, but it was littered with bunch of bs insinuations.

[QUOTE=Seoulman]NO my friend, you are wrong. Its because Its bad business! you see Korean men don't want to see a foreigner walking out of a shop with a grin on his face. Even though that korean man himself is probably married he doesnt want to see a foreigner having sex with one of his woman. ALSO he will not enter the shop of the girl who just serviced the foriegner, not becuase fear of aids. But becuase of inferiority! if he goes in after a foreigner he will think less of himself! Korean men are already worried about their manhood, and sexual style. Last thing they need is to do seconds after a foreigner! Koreans are racist! not only about foreigners with their woman! but with everything! and very xenophobic, this is common practice in the business sector in korea! dealing with Korean businessmen I get this all too often! the japanese are no different too. They are more open though but still don't like foreigners doing their woman due to the manhood issue! if koreans or japanese men know that a woman they are paying to have sex with has been with a foreigner their inferiority will ruin their sexual experience. The girls don't care! they want money. Thats why they are there after all. Most of the women in the RLD scene are forced so their pimps don't allow them to take foreigners for business reason! they don't want their shop tarnished! they will rather sleep with an old 75 year old man or a retarded person than sleep with a good looking 30's white man! yes they will take the retard over brad pitt!

Its korean men who don't use condoms! they are the ones who go to thailand and bang the girls there without condoms too and then go to Korea and bang the rld guys without condoms! which foreigner would not use a condom at a rld?

SO there you have it. Now sure. The pimps would have told the girls don't touch foreigners! they all have AIDS and STDS! they are dirty! propaganda! fact is. Most foreigners will treat them nicer. And do them Better. And Korean men are afraid once they realise this, the girls will not dislike it and happily take foreigners which they want to! I mean I think most girls knows! AMERICAN MEN are something great, they still believe in what they see in hollywood! American men aids carrying STD dirty men? I don't think so. And most girls know their pimps are telling them BS. About the aids and stds! its all for business once you understand the asian mind. You will understand how business works here. [/QUOTE]

bullshit.
How much you know about Koreans? our mentality and culture?
Koreans are not racist and if you think koreans are then you are just a stupid jerk who has distorted thinking.
Or you are probably not deserved person who should be treated in a good way so you have that kind of rubbish idea from your bad experiences.