Taipei

[QUOTE=Hollow Man Abc]I am able to pay $10000 TWD for a FS overnight service for a cute young Chinese/taiwanese lady, 18-25 age.[/QUOTE]

If you really want to monger and spend five figures, a high-end KTV would be a good way to spend $10-20k for a few hours. However, for anybody with even average people skills who is simply interested in sex without caring if you directly pay for it or not, setting aside $10k and a few hours to visit Luxy or Roxy would net you the same result, even if you don't have good language skills. I know that this place is for exchanging info for buying girls so I won't push this but new guys should know that tons of options exist.

[QUOTE=Smuttynose]I just can't believe it's not mentioned on here more often.[/QUOTE]

It's my favorite place and I really agree with you. However, anytime it's talked about, people usually point out how there are really old and really ugly women working in the area which is true - most people posting here don't want anybody over 30 but I think that a lot of women start to get interesting around that age.

[QUOTE=Smuttynose]Do they bring you back to a tea house, or do they know the cheap hotels in the area, and if so, should you even trust the ones they choose, or scout for your own?[/QUOTE]

They have a place - some have an arrangement with a tea shop (which means $300 or so to the shop owner) and others have small rooms off the street. It is unlikely that anybody will take you to a hotel unless you request and pay for it.

[QUOTE=Smuttynose]Or should I just grow a pair?[/QUOTE]

Ha - I know what you mean and have no advice. Sometimes you will find a lone wolf wandering off by herself.

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]Ok, after seeing many reports on how Shining Star is "legit", which is contrary to my visits, I decided to test it out yesterday instead of going to the KTV. Well, short version: I had her for FS at WeGo. So Shining Star is indeed still shining.[/QUOTE]You certainly got the skills and the cash ABC Boy, nice report. She originally wanted to just give you a HJ. And then you talked her into it, now thats some skill right there, nice man.

Guess I'll give Shining Star another shot after my biz trip to Japan for a month, where I'll be trying to get into soaplands, speaking of which

Do you guys know if there are any soaplands that's still operating under radar in Taipei? I tried search for a potential one online, people just won't disclose the info to me. So I do believe one does exist.

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42] Will stick with my provider and her 3500 girls. BTW, has anyone been getting an avalanche of text messages/phone calls from services? Been getting about 3 or 4 a day all with interesting catches (students, laid off stewardesses, horny housewifes, etc), anyone try any of these? Seems like the economy is bad and many girls are doing this to get some extra cash.[/QUOTE]Hey Rag,

Speaking of these txt messages, last week I followed up on some of them, don't bother, they are SCAMS total SCAMS.

I even went as far as adding three girls to my true MSN. Talked to all three, one replied quoting 6k for 2 hrs FS, even sent me her wretch album(which is an obvious fake).

I played along saying ok to the deal, she then asks me to go buy a special card from any convenient store. I was like, WHAT? what card, I never heard of a card, she said its a prepaid card and that she would only meet with me once I buy it.

I said that whats wrong with cash, its cash or no deal. She went on and on about how she got cheated, etc.

I then asked well what insurance do I have if I buy the card and you don't show or if you show and I dont like you. She said she will show for sure and if I dont like her she will buy the card from me.

I decided to play further along and said ok, I will go buy the card, 10 mins later I told her, ok I got the card, now how do we meet.

She got so excited and said, ok give me the authorization codes on your card.

This is when I decided I should stop playing this stupid game so I just said I got a meeting and ignored her. She kept messaging and messaging eventually I had to block her.

Come to think of it, I was probably talking to a dude.

Beware of the scam organizations in tw, they are everywhere!

[quote=exile]if you really want to monger and spend five figures, a high-end ktv would be a good way to spend $10-20k for a few hours. however, for anybody with even average people skills who is simply interested in sex without caring if you directly pay for it or not, setting aside $10k and a few hours to visit luxy or roxy would net you the same result, even if you don't have good language skills. i know that this place is for exchanging info for buying girls so i won't push this but new guys should know that tons of options exist.[/quote]the girls at roxy aren't very cute tho and the male female ratio is 3:1. but, if you go when its very late, the girls who are there, are pretty drunk and loose. at luxy, the girls are very hot, but its hard to approach people when its so crowded and loud. it doesn't sound like hollow man wants to deal with the inevitable of clubbing - you must approach a complete stranger and could very likely get rejected. these are regular clubs, my sister and her friends go, so you really need to turn up the charm as with most young people venues to have any chance of getting a girl and you have to be prepared to go home alone.

i generally don't go to high end ktv alone. it is a big operation and does feel a little creepy talking about taking girls home with the managers while the girls are right there. this is definitely not the way to go if you are on a budget, shy, or dont drink. definitely bring a smoothtalking friend or you will be ripped off. it sounds like abc boy meets this profile.

there arent independents in tpe. there's no way for them to advertise to prospective clients due to repressed freedom of speech. i have a bunch of numbers of outcall girls, but i don't think these do full day services.
the problem with outcall is that the mamasan don't see the girls. all the girls have openly told me this. only one mamasan has been honest with me about it. she sent me 8 girls one afternoon and wanted me to tell her what they looked like and rank them so she could better assess who to send which clients. i have a short list of the ones who match my profile, under 25 and under 100 pounds. if there is your first time with outcall, i recommend you start at 5000 (the base is 3500). send the first 2 girls away and tell your mamasan those girls were not at the 5k level and that she only has one try left to send you an adequate girl. they usually play to this threat and send someone they know will be ok. don't offer yuki 10k for a model, it doesn't help. you will still get a 5-6k girl.

there's also incall, which is a cheap alternative, only 3500. but, that doesnt sound like your cup of tea if you wanted to spend the whole day with someone. and they aren't going to be that hot.

happy hunting!

[QUOTE=Hiro Nakamura]
Speaking of these txt messages, last week I followed up on some of them, don't bother, they are SCAMS total SCAMS.
[/QUOTE]

You know they are even calling me now all the time, actual girls asking me when can I meet them or if I want girls. I got my balls up and actually got a girl from one of them recently.

She asked for 5K for an 18YO but I bargained her down. The girl was cute but real energizer bunny. So so sex but fairly nice, but dont think I will ever try that agency again. Kept being on my toes, afraid of some shake down or raid, so didnt enjoy myself.

Will stick with my regular provider and my other side projects for now. But some of them are not scams, if they call you then its probably legit.

[quote=ragnarok42]you know they are even calling me now all the time, actual girls asking me when can i meet them or if i want girls. i got my balls up and actually got a girl from one of them recently ...[/quote]

i suspect some of these girls also cold call random numbers and chat up men, if indeed a man answers. i had my **** daughter's mobile on hand, and when i answered a call some chick started talkin' me up like some ktv girl fishing for a repeater. it could only have been a cold call, because that phone is only turned on for about 1 hr a day, excluding weekends. and after i hung up abruptly she didn't call back.

had me rattled for a moment, because it would not be pleasant to have some ghost from monger's past dialing the domestic numbers. :-0

Thanks James for the broad analysis and advice. Money keeps the ball rowing. Every person's financial capability is different. The more money you have, the higher the tendency you are going to end up with a beautiful girl if you are talking about FS. Although I have limited experiences, basically less than 10 times FS, I do prefer freelancers or the so-called independents instead of from escort/massage agency etc. Because these girls have a boss to report to, you will hear the mobile phone keeps ringing once the time is up. Very irritating! Independents are better. If they like you, they stay with you longer time, they charge you lesser for FS and so on. If they don't like you, they reject you on the spot, that's it. So, it is a bit dissappointing to know that freelancers or dependents do not exist in Taipei. Are there independents in Luxy or Roxy looking for potential customers?

By the way, everyone is talking about YUKI. Just to make sure I am correct, Yuki refers to the massage advertisment on Taipei Times. Why Yuki? There are a dozen of them in Taipei Times. Which one is the best?

I go to Roxy and Luxy often and I've not seen any girls who are obviously providers. All girls dress kinda slutty at clubs and no one has ever approach me before.

Yuki is mentioned a lot because she's one of the main advertisers in Taipei Times and can deal with foreigners. Most people who don't speak mandarin have no other choices. If you speak chinese, then you have other options.

If you really prefer independents, I have girl i go to regularly, that I can set you up with. She's pretty and charges 6k. I'll have to ask her first tho. You can PM me if you want me to ask, and I will give you my email address.

[QUOTE=Hollow Man Abc]Thanks James for the broad analysis and advice. Money keeps the ball rowing. Every person's financial capability is different. The more money you have, the higher the tendency you are going to end up with a beautiful girl if you are talking about FS. Although I have limited experiences, basically less than 10 times FS, I do prefer freelancers or the so-called independents instead of from escort/massage agency etc. Because these girls have a boss to report to, you will hear the mobile phone keeps ringing once the time is up. Very irritating! Independents are better. If they like you, they stay with you longer time, they charge you lesser for FS and so on. If they don't like you, they reject you on the spot, that's it. So, it is a bit dissappointing to know that freelancers or dependents do not exist in Taipei. Are there independents in Luxy or Roxy looking for potential customers?

By the way, everyone is talking about YUKI. Just to make sure I am correct, Yuki refers to the massage advertisment on Taipei Times. Why Yuki? There are a dozen of them in Taipei Times. Which one is the best?[/QUOTE]

Ok guys, just wanted to share a real dumb thing that an experience monger should never do, fall in love with a KTV girl, which is what happened to me the last 3 days (which is why you only heard one KTV girl report for my current trip.)

Anyway, went to KTV looking for fun, but saw this girl walked by in the lobby, and you know how guys will always have a perfect dream girl in their minds? Hair style, facial features, body, height, etc. Well, I never thought I would find such a person but I did, so I quickly told my manager I want her. But he smiled and say: "Sorry, you won't like her, she doesn't do take-outs...." For the first time in my life at the KTV I let my brain do the thinking instead of my little brother, and I told him: "no worries, I want her, no take outs"

Spend 1 hour in the KTV room, sing and talk and holy crap she's perfect in personality and composure too, my dream girl. So took her out TO EAT (clean take out. When KTV manager says "take out" it usually means FS, when girls only do clean take out the proper way to say it is to "TO EAT") And ate her favorite food, took her to a few party places, and called it a night.

Next day, bought her a full day (so she's all my), cost me mucho money. Still, typical fun like a dumb-ass couple, nothing more. Day after that, full f-cking day again. Again just your average couple going out, nothing special.

I'm glad my business trip is over and I had to return to the States, what kind of f-cking tard was I wasting enough money to screw 3-4 KTV girls on her, and all I got was.... NOTHING!

Mongers, never make my mistake!!!!! Darn I'm so f-cking weak when I saw my perfect dream girl. And you know what, if I return to Taipei I'll probably be the same IDIOT AGAIN! I need to see a shrink.....

[QUOTE=Hollow Man Abc]

By the way, everyone is talking about YUKI. Just to make sure I am correct, Yuki refers to the massage advertisment on Taipei Times. Why Yuki? There are a dozen of them in Taipei Times. Which one is the best?[/QUOTE]

YUKI is not massage parlor but a phone number you call for a "massage girl" but all they do really is FS you and leave. Since the time is short (50 minutes) you can ask for a massage first but remember time is short.

Remember, don't fall for the "we now charge 5K" BS, it's still 3K, just say, "all my friends only pay 3K" and they will laugh and say: "ok ok, 3K, hahaha", yeah hahahha, F-U

[QUOTE=Hollow Man Abc]Honestly, i have never been to KTV in Taipei before. No offences, because i don't know much about this. In my opinion, I most probably would not take the girls out of KTV because i find it bizzare. What I find it strange is that why gone through so many steps to find a girl ? As you said it, the girl will do it for 7k. That means 11k would be spent on the stupid KTV. Is there anyway to directly contact the girls ? I would rather spend 18k on the pretty girl i like for her to stay up with me for one day, 24 hours and 10k to stay with me overnight from midnight to 7am and maybe, 2 to 3k tips for the manager or mamasan or escort agency for acting as middleman who offer good quality service. Can this be arranged ?

Once again, thank you very much for your advice.[/QUOTE]

Because the money you pay a share goes to the girls, and helps them meet a quota so they don't get "fines" and get reduce pay. Like I said the girls actually prefer you buy them through the agency so they don't get fine, and usually the top earners get "special treatment" from the managers.

I'm heading back to the States, but if you are still around in late July we can meet up in Taipei and I'll take you to Emperor, in my opinion the best KTV place in Taipei in terms of overall girl quality, and none of the girls are older than 25.

So, in short, if you want girls 18-25, model quality, train to treat you like an emperor, and have FS service, you need to come to KTV and get ready to spend 20K

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]
Mongers, never make my mistake!!!!! Darn I'm so f-cking weak when I saw my perfect dream girl. And you know what, if I return to Taipei I'll probably be the same IDIOT AGAIN! I need to see a shrink.....[/QUOTE]

Dude you are only human, even mongers have feelings. We all have stories of that ONE girl that we had a great time with but never even got to first base with. She might even have liked me in return but not enough to forget the fact that she met me in a place that has P4P.

If you see her again on a later return trip, chances are you WILL get some action because I find many of these girls really value restraint and loyalty. They know you can get someone else or find someone else, but the fact that you stick with her tells her something.

The only problem is what happens if something does happen...haha

Then the really important questions start popping up.

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]Dude you are only human, even mongers have feelings. We all have stories of that ONE girl that we had a great time with but never even got to first base with. She might even have liked me in return but not enough to forget the fact that she met me in a place that has P4P.

If you see her again on a later return trip, chances are you WILL get some action because I find many of these girls really value restraint and loyalty. They know you can get someone else or find someone else, but the fact that you stick with her tells her something.

The only problem is what happens if something does happen...haha

Then the really important questions start popping up.[/QUOTE]


Thanks for encouragement. Love is a curse, all my "player skills" went to nil when I'm with her. I can get into the pants of any woman except her... hahaha

Anyway, I'm hoping two months of work in USA will let me get over it so I can go back to my player days of KTV girls... So many girls, so little time....

Anybody want to go mongering tonight, tomorrow, or possibly Wednesday night? I'm new to this site and in Taipei for a few days. Don't know the scene and interested in learning the ropes.