Ho Chi Minh City - General Info

Jd and M. Chicken, well, I've never seen anyone I wanted in the CQ hot tocs near THD, so never went inside. If Mutant is correct and they don't do any extras, that is sure surprising because it certainly looks like the kind of hot toc that provides extras. Sexily dressed girls lounging around at night, not cutting hair. I thought that was the giveaway.

You are quite correct that tall girls are prized here. I figured that out some time ago. Because they are prized, they tend to be under-represented in the ranks of WGs, because they are better able to find a rich husband or sugar daddy.

But it's still possible to find a tall pretty one. I did see a tall pretty one at one of the NPK hot tocs last year, the very first time I went there. But the guy in charge was trying to overcharge me, I thought, so I hesitated. While I hesitated some local guy came in and took the tall girl. After I decided I wanted her, I told them I would wait until she returned. But I got tired of waiting and went to a different hot toc and took someone else.

I have often regretted this as the next day, this girl was gone. They told me she would be back next week but she never came back.

I learned a lesson from this. When you see a tall one you like, pounce. You will probably never get another chance.

I suspect these girls don't last more than a few weeks at these places before they quit. It's pretty dirty work. Or do the bosses chase them out because the clients always want to see new faces?

M. Chicken, kindly re-read my posts. I never said that I was "attractive" or "good looking, " I said I was "quite decent looking. " Some girls do think I'm handsome, but I did not make that claim. I regard myself as formerly handsome. But certainly not the decrepit old codger-perv that JD suggested.

Yeah, I know about Le Duyen and similar places. You're right, it would be a good place to hunt. I've just never had time to do it. Maybe I'll give it a try. But I hate all the makeup. I've known so many SEA girls who were white when I met them but eventually you discover that they are really deep tan, after you've wasted a lot of money on them. Like the Asian men, I really dig white skin, but I suspect in most cases, it's makeup.

JD, you're right, they're not touts, that's the wrong word. Gatekeepers is perhaps better. But are we talking about the same hot tocs? 3 of the 4 hot tocs on NPK are inset from the street. Meaning, you have to walk some distance from the sidewalk to get to the door. When you say they are right on the streetfront, are you talking about the hot tocs that are on NPK in some parallel universe?

You have the gatekeepers sitting out front, then when you pass them, you must walk 10 or 15 feet to get to the door. (I'm not a good judge of distance but that's my estimate.)

And the fourth hot toc is actually inside a building and totally invisible from the street except for a sign. Actually, though, that one seems more laid back and I've had no problems with them.

Thanks for your advice, JD, I'll take it and hopefully do better next time.

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[QUOTE=Pokey Penguin]Jd and M. Chicken, well, I've never seen anyone I wanted in the CQ hot tocs near THD, so never went inside. If Mutant is correct and they don't do any extras, that is sure surprising because it certainly looks like the kind of hot toc that provides extras. Sexily dressed girls lounging around at night, not cutting hair. I thought that was the giveaway.

The Hoc Toc places on BTX and Cong Quynh. Le Duyen etc. Are probably your best bets.

They're not good places for immediate action but a lot of my clients request that I take them there, simply because most of the girls there are pretty. And you will get tall ones and most importantly, you will get girls who want to marry.

These places 'behave' more as they are all located in central D1 so you won't get to BJ, HJ or any J's, just a hair wash, a simple massage and some chatter. If you want, you'll get a phone number to follow up with.

I've taken some of these girls 'out' and they are all willing and looking for a partner or someone to settle with. Generally, they are girls who come from poor families but don't like to work hard jobs; their pretty looks allows them to work in these places.

Treat as some simple stress relief, go for a hair wash and you'd be surprised with what can come up from these places.

[QUOTE=Pokey Penguin]
JD, you're right, they're not touts, that's the wrong word. Gatekeepers is perhaps better. But are we talking about the same hot tocs? 3 of the 4 hot tocs on NPK are inset from the street. Meaning, you have to walk some distance from the sidewalk to get to the door. When you say they are right on the streetfront, are you talking about the hot tocs that are on NPK in some parallel universe?

You have the gatekeepers sitting out front, then when you pass them, you must walk 10 or 15 feet to get to the door. (I'm not a good judge of distance but that's my estimate.)

And the fourth hot toc is actually inside a building and totally invisible from the street except for a sign. Actually, though, that one seems more laid back and I've had no problems with them.
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Actually there is only one Hot Toc on NPK that I go to (third location on the street already) and I have been going there for years. Same 'company' runs two others nearby as well. The motorbike ramp is right on the street and front door no more than 2 meters from the street. I just go directly there, I never even notice any other places except the HT before it with the blue door that does only HJ.

I don't know which places you mean PP because I don't pay attention. I am sure they are there if you say so. Never been, probably never will.

BTW, general rule in VN, if it looks like something is happening inside, nothing is happening inside. If you can't see anything, something may be happening inside. Le Duyen and type places: you can see a lot, thus nothing but hairwash happening. NPK HT shops, can't see anything, lots of CIM and pussy probing happening. HBT and LTT Bars, can't see anything, something is happening.

JD

Hi Johndao,

I arrived in HCMC today (am a frequent visitor) and would like to check out the Hot Toc on NPK that you always goto.

Would you mind pinging me the address or some more specific directions?

Thank you very much in advance.


[QUOTE=Johndao]Actually there is only one Hot Toc on NPK that I go to (third location on the street already) and I have been going there for years. Same 'company' runs two others nearby as well. The motorbike ramp is right on the street and front door no more than 2 meters from the street. I just go directly there, I never even notice any other places except the HT before it with the blue door that does only HJ.

I don't know which places you mean PP because I don't pay attention. I am sure they are there if you say so. Never been, probably never will.

BTW, general rule in VN, if it looks like something is happening inside, nothing is happening inside. If you can't see anything, something may be happening inside. Le Duyen and type places: you can see a lot, thus nothing but hairwash happening. NPK HT shops, can't see anything, lots of CIM and pussy probing happening. HBT and LTT Bars, can't see anything, something is happening.

JD[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BBBJ]Hi Johndao,

I arrived in HCMC today (am a frequent visitor) and would like to check out the Hot Toc on NPK that you always goto.

Would you mind pinging me the address or some more specific directions?

Thank you very much in advance.[/QUOTE]
BBBJ,
You can read the many reports on the forum and easily figure where it is. On NPK, opposite the big new cafe, the shop is on the right side and the cafe on the left. Moto ramp up.
JD

Thanks JD, much appreciated.

Will try and find it tonight and report back on my findings.

BTW, I'll be in HCMC until Wednesday afternoon. If you're in HCMC and feel like it, I'll be happy to buy you a beer at your location of choice.

BBBJ

[QUOTE=Johndao]BBBJ,
You can read the many reports on the forum and easily figure where it is. On NPK, opposite the big new cafe, the shop is on the right side and the cafe on the left. Moto ramp up.
JD[/QUOTE]

what's up guys,

First time poster.

Last year I went to Vietnam, and stayed in Saigon for most of my trip. I'm planning to go back for another 2 months sometime in June-July. Anyways I met this local guy at the gym I go to over there.

Long story short, he introduce me to a mama-san. She had about 6-8 girls working for her, most of them were pretty cute looking. I never got to see the girls until she actually came to my hotel. I would normally call her and she would pretty much pick a girl for me. If I didn't like what I saw, I can send her back.

So here is my question to you guys. I agreed on the price of 800k for the whole night. The girl would come around 9pm-10pm and would leave the next day.

Did I overpay? If so, What are the normal prices for an all nighter?

Thanks all!

P.S. I don't have mama-san number, it was lost when I threw away my vietnamese sim card =(, but pretty sure I can get a hold of my buddy over there when I get there.

Hi guys,

Checked out the Hot Toc on NPK that has been discussed here before.

It's exactly as JD describes it and his directions are spot on.

This is as close to a McDonalds experience you'll get here in HCMC, so anybody that for some reason get's charged more than the standard 100+100 here is probably wearing a Hawaiian shirt, bermuda shorts, has his tourist camera hanging on his belly, the Sheraton hotel's map of HCMC in the left hand and a few million dong cash in the other hand, while asking loudly "how much for a blow job?".

As JD mentioned several times, just walk in without hesitation, pick a girl, ANY girl (it's fairly dark upstairs anyway), follow her upstairs, drop your short to your ankles, take off your shirt, lie on the bed, let the girl give you a half decent BBBJ, cum in her mouth, let her clean you up and get dressed. Hand the girl 100K, walk down the stairs and hand the only lady that's not wearing a schoolgirl uniform 100K. Don't wait for the change and just walk out. It's really that simple.

The "very intimidating gatekeepers outside" are your typical small and slim Vietnamese guys that couldn't put a dent in you even if they all tried at the same time. They even greeted me and said "Thank you and see you soon" when I left.

Hopped into a taxi and that was it. Easiest and cheapest BBBJ you'll probably ever get... wham, bam (or should I say 'gulp') thank you mam.

Have fun!,
BBBJ

I read some reports here about there being 'FL's parading' in front of the Crazy Buffalo and Go2 bar. I sat outside the Crazy Buffalo for a whole freakin 2 hours (until 1:30am) sipping on a beer while trying to spot all these parading FL's. ...hoping to pick one up.

Well, I must have gone blind from the BBBJ-CIM I had earlier, cause for the love of Asian pussy, I couldn't spot them!

Sure, there's the usual moto-girl that flies by every 30 minutes or so, but in HCMC they're like Mosquito's: when it get's dark they're everywhere and annoy the crap out of me.

It was mostly backpackers, 'hippies' and teenage european/american girls followed around by their overprotective teenage boyfriends.

At 1:30am I paid for my drinks and walked down the street past the Go2bar (on my left). I saw a couple of bars with some girls inside, but that was pretty much it (assume the going rate is also the usual 800k-1milion in these places???).

So could someone please ...PLEASE! enlighten me about this place? Is Saturday night the one night that FL's stay home? Does the parade start after 2am? What am I missing?

As I was walking around I was also figuring that FL's or any self respecting SW would stay far away from a backpacker's area as they generally can't be suckered in to spending lotsa cash for a quickie, but then again... I might be totally wrong (hoping I am...).

Anybody? Please?

[QUOTE=Johndao]BBBJ,

You can read the many reports on the forum and easily figure where it is. On NPK, opposite the big new cafe, the shop is on the right side and the cafe on the left. Moto ramp up.

JD[/QUOTE]Perhaps I am the one visiting the Twilight Zone version of NPK. I am trying to understand your directions, JD, but I have never seen a big cafe on NPK, unless it's only open in the daytime. Practically everything on NPK is closed at night except for the 4 hot tocs and about the same number of Bia Oms.

When you give directions, it would be better if you gave an orientation point. Right, left are meaningless unless we know which direction you are heading on the street.

My understanding is that NPK starts at VTS and ends at that Lotteria restaurant. Or is there a continuation of NPK that I'm not aware of, full of big cafes and seductive hot tocs with warm, friendly gatekeepers?

I'm not very observant, so next time I visit I will look for that strange blue door you spoke of, and motorbike ramp, as I have never noticed these things before. Also that phantom cafe.

As I was walking around I was also figuring that FL's or any self respecting SW would stay far away from a backpacker's area as they generally can't be suckered in to spending lotsa cash for a quickie, but then again. I might be totally wrong (hoping I am.).

Anybody? Please?[/QUOTE]You've got most of your answer there.

You will not get stunning FL in the backpackers area. Most of the FL know that there aren't going to be any premium customers to be had at Go2 versus a place like Apolocolypse. So it is a waste of time to go into that area expecting a decent FL.

As you pointed out, you will get a few Moto girls here and there offering services, and yes a few dark bars along bui vien will offer some take away. That's about as much as you will get in that area.

I haven't been to this place, but have heard similar reports about Go2, which I'm always skeptical of. I've gone into that place and not seen any WGs at all, and on a few occassions I did spot a few not-too-enticing ones at the pool table. Then when I reported this, I was told that it's late at night when they come, the wee hours. So I came back during the wee hours (2am) and it was same situation, on Sat nite even.

In this field of study, there tends to be a lot of exaggeration and misreporting of the facts. I'd say anyone who recommends these 2 places as where to go to find WG's doesn't know what he's talking about. They're so few and far between, and of such low quality, in these spots that I'd say they're not worth a visit if girls are what you're after.

Btw, girls at those bars down Bui Vien would be cheaper than what you quoted -- I'm pretty sure 500,000 or so, maybe less. Just a few yrs back the going rate in the PNL area was 300,000.

[QUOTE=Pokey Penguin]Perhaps I am the one visiting the Twilight Zone version of NPK. I am trying to understand your directions, JD, but I have never seen a big cafe on NPK, unless it's only open in the daytime. Practically everything on NPK is closed at night except for the 4 hot tocs and about the same number of Bia Oms.

When you give directions, it would be better if you gave an orientation point. Right, left are meaningless unless we know which direction you are heading on the street.

My understanding is that NPK starts at VTS and ends at that Lotteria restaurant. Or is there a continuation of NPK that I'm not aware of, full of big cafes and seductive hot tocs with warm, friendly gatekeepers?

I'm not very observant, so next time I visit I will look for that strange blue door you spoke of, and motorbike ramp, as I have never noticed these things before. Also that phantom cafe.[/QUOTE]
PP,
It's a one-way street Pokey so I am assuming you are going that one-way. It's possible the big new huge loud cafe is closed very late at night. I never go there at night.

Read BBBJ's report below on the same place, following my directions. I give good info but I am not a hand-holder. I see why you are called 'Pokey and thanks for confessing that you are not very observant. But wait, not observant? Aren't you that guy that goes into these places and scans every girl and rejects them and walks out in 15 seconds or less? Pretty difficult if you are not observant. I think I'm gonna give up. . .
JD

[QUOTE=Johndao]PP,
It's a one-way street Pokey [/QUOTE]

Phantom cafe? Uh... Pokey's gotta be winding you up here. That cafe is surely open evenings...and it's hard to miss. And if he somehow missed it (which anyone who's been on NPK knows is not possible) why refer to it as 'phantom'? Also, no one could visit that street in person and not realize it's a one-way. Sorry, my impression is he's here just to yank your chain.

This guy's looking like a troll. I mean... "Pokey Penguin"?

Hi,

I am visiting HCMC with my cute 26 Khmer GF who is very bi. We are looking for a VN girl for 3some. We don't know the area at all. Currently staying in District 1. Any clue? Please provide us with simple indication with full names of streets and not letters!

Also possibility for a foursome today or tomorrow afternoon if boy is white and < 40 and girl is bi and VN. You can pm me.

Cheers,

Lulu