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[QUOTE=Jackyo]I echo this point of view but with a twist.

For me, the best FKK I've been to is the last one I've been to.

One goes through stages in visiting these clubs.

Complete newbies are in the "shock and awe" phase where they can't believe there has been such a thing going on all this while.

Then there is "must visit every club" phase. This is like an addicition and one keeps thinking that the next club is going to top the last club one visited. As with any addiction, one has to keep raising the dosage otherwise the high isn't as satisfying.

Then there is the "been there, done that" phase which is probably where I am. I've not been to all of these clubs but I've gotten to the point where I seriously doubt that the next club I am going to visit will be much better than the best club I've ever been to.

When I hear or read of a new club, for example, my reaction is: "Cool. But let's wait and see how things shake out before I plan any visits."[/QUOTE]Well said Jacko, that summed it up perfectly, I am at the same stage as you, but as far as facilities, I would go for Oase, for value and service Berdns, and for great looking girls I think the PHG/GT combination. All FKK/suana clubs have their pros and cons, but some just have cons, I don't need to name it do I? , but it has a Turkish theme. LOL,

Just my thoughts.

It seems to have disappered.

…to paraphrase Seinfeld. All the large clubs in Germany are FKKs, but west of Düsseldorf all bets are off. All the large clubs there are saunaclubs and I doubt there even exists an FKK west of D-dorf. It must have something to do with the proximity to the Dutch border. Every other visitor to these clubs is a non-German. Why would a new club like Villa Vertigo offer dressed girls if the Dutch clientele actually preferred nude girls? If the Dutch preferred nude girls, an FKK in the area would wipe out all the competition. Is a fetish for dessous and bikini like a national character in Benelux countries? Any thoughts?

[QUOTE=Everhard]…to paraphrase Seinfeld. All the large clubs in Germany are FKKs, but west of Düsseldorf all bets are off. All the large clubs there are saunaclubs and I doubt there even exists an FKK west of D-dorf. It must have something to do with the proximity to the Dutch border. Every other visitor to these clubs is a non-German. Why would a new club like Villa Vertigo offer dressed girls if the Dutch clientele actually preferred nude girls? If the Dutch preferred nude girls, an FKK in the area would wipe out all the competition. Is a fetish for dessous and bikini like a national character in Benelux countries? Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]
.. and one which I have asked myself before.

The Golden Triangle clubs do seem to favor women who are dressed rather than nude and it stands out like a sore thumb.

Is there a local ordinance which requires it?

just wanted to give Everhard's post a bump for those who might find having fkk clubs on google earth.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=507807#post507807[/url]

[QUOTE=Breadman]just wanted to give Everhard's post a bump for those who might find having fkk clubs on google earth.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=507807#post507807[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks for recognition! Actually nowadays there is an even simpler method to find P4P in Germany, directly in the web browser.
Open [url]maps.google.de [/url]and copy this line into the search field
[url]http://www.roemerforum.com/gearth/Clubs.kml[/url]

Have a friend going to Stuttgart for business...with several days free to roam around. Can someone provide me with some info on which clubs to visit...and their rates, etc?? And possibly some hotels close to those clubs so that we can see if he can get a hotel closeby...

thanks for any help...

Ask Sonny from ijsberenforum. He went to [url]http://www.the-paradise.de/paradise[/url]. Also Feldstecher (Rheinforum) was at the opening and it should be a very nice club with many girls.


[QUOTE=Breadman]Have a friend going to Stuttgart for business, with several days free to roam around. Can someone provide me with some info on which clubs to visit...and their rates, etc? And possibly some hotels close to those clubs so that we can see if he can get a hotel closeby.

Thanks for any help.[/QUOTE]

RTFF - just kidding.

There's 4 clubs in the Stuttgart area:

[url]www.fkk-sakura.de[/url] (Sakura)

Entrance 60 EUR. 60 EUR for the half hour, CIM 25 EUR (ask, could be 50)

[url]www.fkk-haus.com[/url] (FKK-Haus)

Entrance 60 EUR. 55 EUR for the half hour, CIM 25 EUR.

[url]www.the-paradise.de[/url] (FKK Paradise)

Entrance 69 EUR. 50 EUR for the half hour, CIM ?? EUR.

[url]www.fkk-stuttgart.de[/url] (Phoenix)

Entrance 40 EUR. 55 EUR for the half hour, CIM 25 EUR.

HB

[QUOTE=Breadman]Have a friend going to Stuttgart for business...with several days free to roam around. Can someone provide me with some info on which clubs to visit...and their rates, etc?? And possibly some hotels close to those clubs so that we can see if he can get a hotel closeby...

thanks for any help...[/QUOTE]
.. in Southern Germany.

This includes Baden Wuerttemberg (where Stuttgart is) and Bayern.

I'd also include Switzerland and Austria in this.

I was in Bayern, Austria and Switzerland last November and I did nothing. I am scheduled to attend a wedding in Salzburg this July and I also am going to do absolutely nothing.

First of all, my kudos to you guys who report in this section, the depth of the info is astonishing. Hopefully I am not asking repetitive questions, I already know that even fat guys like me whose German is as bad as Elliott Spitzers credibility can get laid as long as we are polite and hygenic!

Let me give the background.

I will be in Frankfurt for a Friday and Saturday in early June, then I have to catch a plane out early am on a Sunday. I will be back in Franfurt the followinng Saturday, then have to run to Saarbruken until perhaps Monday evening, leaving again for the US from Frankfurt on Tues early.

As to the first part of my trip, I will arrive in Frankfurt early Friday about 8 am, after a 8,000 mile 15 hour flight with an 8 hour layover. My thought is to get a small car, and see how I feel before I decide where I should go: Palace, Oase or World. I suppose my decision will have to abide the most recent reports, but be that as it may, which of the three major clubs are, in the view of you experienced guys, most "relaxation" friendly...in other words which place is easiest to catch a few winks or have a palatable meal if I get myself wore out...alternatively, I can fool around a bit, and get a room, then come back...

What are the current choices among you experienced guys for rooms at either World or Oases. I have far more choices if I decide to do Palace.

Now on Saturday I am thinking about a room back at the airport, so that when I leave whatever club I chose for sat night, I will be easily accessible to my plane on Sunday....does anyone have a reccommendation as to an airport hotel.? The IBIS looks decent.

I have seen some refernces to guys "reading a book" during long stays? How do the girls view trhis? Where do you carry it? I get bored easy and 20 minutes by a pool with a good book and a cup of coffeee is Viagara to me.

Now on the second leg, I guess I am limited to the FKK in Saarburken, which had some decent reviews...or is there some other place in the general area that is better?

I have more questions but they are dragging me to work!

Thanks for having read the forum before asking your questions.

Since you are coming in June and are likely to be tired I would think that either Oase or World, with their gardens, would be the choice. With luck the weather should be decent. If it is not so good on the day, World would be preferable because there are areas downstairs where you can withdraw and close your eyes a bit. You can keep a book in your locker and fetch it when you need it. Simple. No one cares if you read. Some of the girls may interrupt you, but that may happen anyway. (I have even mastered the art of reading while someone is fumbling under my towel. LOL) If you are indoors in Palace or Oase, it's not so easy to find a place to relax and read, and the lighting is not conducive to it either.

You will only need a small car. There is advice on the forum about where you can book favourably. A navigator would be an extremely good idea.

As far as the girls are concerned, you'll probably be bowled over first time, wherever you go. I doubt if you'll be able to concentrate on reading in fact ;-). I wouldn't prepare in any way. It's always different when you get there anyway. Just go and enjoy. And report. :-) We like newbie reports.

You can try FKK Saarbrücken. Better, on current reputation, would be FKK Neunkirchen about 30kms away and under the same ownership. It's a pity in a way that you're doing it this way round. Don't expect the optical quality or number of girls to be quite so high as in the Frankfurt area (think 12-15 girls). But I know NK very well, and the levels of service are reliable. There are some very good girls there this year. Same price structure at NK (but entrance EUR 50), slightly different at SB. NB, no food at Neunkirchen (except on Thursdays) don't know about SB, so take a sandwich perhaps. Whichever you choose, a report would be highly appreciated since they get little attention due to their location.

Finally, fear not about language. English will get you through. In fact at NK or SB you will probably hear more French than German.

[QUOTE=Frank Dallas]in other words which place is easiest to catch a few winks or have a palatable meal if I get myself wore out...alternatively, I can fool around a bit, and get a room, then come back...
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I believe World is more calm and tranquile then Oase and Palace. You may relax and read your book, have your coffee and make sessions whenever you want. This is the biggest of those three, there are two bars in each floors, lots of rooms and a big foodcourt. But this is more than 40 kms to Frankfurt, Oase and Palace is closer to Frankfurt airport.

Regarding Saabrucken, I have no additional info.
Have fun,

You guys are great!

As to a car, looks like my best deal is via sixt. De. I am too old, fat and lazy to use a Smart car. Nothing less than a Opel for me They seem to have the best rates for me right now.

Navigator? Whats wrong with maps? I'm old fashioned

I've used google earth to drive to each place five times already.

I am truly looking forword to this trip. I have enjoyed the hobby in NYC, Las Vegas, Tijuana, Pattaya, Moscow, Bangkok but this is my first FKK run.

I do intend to do reports by the way, and as I will be taking my laptop, maybe contemporaneously.

Now where is the best food around these big three FKKs. And it can be any style or ethnicity. I'm the type of guy that goes to Adelitas in Tijuana just for the taco cart.

[QUOTE=Frank Dallas]You guys are great!

As to a car, looks like my best deal is via sixt. De. I am too old, fat and lazy to use a Smart car. Nothing less than a Opel for me They seem to have the best rates for me right now.

Navigator? Whats wrong with maps? I'm old fashioned

I've used google earth to drive to each place five times already.

I am truly looking forword to this trip. I have enjoyed the hobby in NYC, Las Vegas, Tijuana, Pattaya, Moscow, Bangkok but this is my first FKK run.

I do intend to do reports by the way, and as I will be taking my laptop, maybe contemporaneously.

Now where is the best food around these big three FKKs. And it can be any style or ethnicity. I'm the type of guy that goes to Adelitas in Tijuana just for the taco cart.[/QUOTE]Wolrd has the best food & I would highly recommend renting a car with a GPS. Forget the maps.