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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1651073]Who knows why? I didn't ask. [/QUOTE]Since kissing is a pre-requisite for me, I always ask why not, if they initially say no. A common reason they gave was to minimize catching the cold or flu bug which would then deprive them of 2-3 days earnings. That sounds quite logical. As to why kissing was then possible with €100, the reason then given was that doubling the returns on a slow day compensated for the risk.
For people who are not regulars in the German FKK clubs, always ask&interview the girl first!
It is a business. You are buying her service. You have to make sure what she will provide, before going into the room with her!
Normally, before I take a girl to the room, I always interview the girl by asking "So, we go for 30 minutes, that's 50 Euros, and you can do kissing, blowjob without condom, and sex, is that okay for you?" to make sure we have an agreement on price (50 Euros) and service (kissing+BBBJ+sex). And I always highlight "50 Euros" and "Kissing" for many time!
If she says "Okay!, we make a deal, and I take her to the room.
If she says something like "No, I don't kiss for 50 Euros" or tried to avoid my question by saying "Let's go to the room first, and talk about the price and service later", I turn her down politely.
And, yes, I believe there are girls in Sharks who insist that she won't kiss unless you pay 100 Euros or more.
I personally just met one before.
I don't like that idea, because I am used to doing 50 Euros sessions, so I turned her down and looked for others who are willing to kiss with basic 50 Euros session.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;1651199]Since kissing is a pre-requisite for me, I always ask why not, if they initially say no. A common reason they gave was to minimize catching the cold or flu bug which would then deprive them of 2-3 days earnings. That sounds quite logical. As to why kissing was then possible with 100, the reason then given was that doubling the returns on a slow day compensated for the risk.[/QUOTE]Cold or flu is not quite logical in reality as most viruses are caught through the nose. So a sick guy breathing on a girl is enough to catch a virus.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1651073]Abbreviations used on this forum are for forum only. They are not common terms that everyone uses. Girls reading the forum may get it or may not. I don't discuss with girls technical details. I just try to kiss them, and they will avoid it if they don't want. I don't really recall what girls call CIM, but whatever it is I understand. I don't raise the topic myself.
I am more oriented to just doing things without deep discussion of the details.
With a girl like Kelly, you don't have to request kissing of any special type, I think. She just goes for it, even more than you expect. On other hand, Sascha, avoids any type of kissing at all. Who knows why? I didn't ask. I don't believe I have bad breath. I don't smoke and try to clean very meticulously, including tongue cleaning and whole mouth. Plenty of girls that don't smoke are not reluctant to kiss me at all. Just depends on the girl preference. I do occasionally hear comments about bad breath of other customers. Sometimes a girl will complain some guy drinks too much beer and smells of beer. LOL I didn't expect that one so much.[/QUOTE]How hell do you want a girl to kiss you, when she meet hundred or maybe thousand of people? If that girl she will do French kissing with all that guys, do you think she will still be healthy? Of course not. Her body will be full with all viruses, special with herpes. Do you know what is genital herpes and how you can take this? Well you can have you too if that girl she have genital herpes and you lick her pussy, or she give you oral without condom, you will definitely have this virus. Check on Google to see how is look like genital herpes and what is incurring. I don't think you will ever ask somebody for French kissing and oral without. Bless all of you and take care of your health guys, girls who provide sex work they know how to keep their body health for a long time.
[QUOTE=Isabella;1651330]How hell do you want a girl to kiss you, when she meet hundred or maybe thousand of people? If that girl she will do French kissing with all that guys, do you think she will still be healthy? Of course not. Her body will be full with all viruses, special with herpes. Do you know what is genital herpes and how you can take this? Well you can have you too if that girl she have genital herpes and you lick her pussy, or she give you oral without condom, you will definitely have this virus. Check on Google to see how is look like genital herpes and what is incurring. I don't think you will ever ask somebody for French kissing and oral without. Bless all of you and take care of your health guys, girls who provide sex work they know how to keep their body health for a long time.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the insight. Despite your warnings, there are certain things that customers like doing. A high percentage of people will have contracted herpes already and have some resistance to a new outbreak. After all these years, I doubt I am going to change my style too much.
However, I know that if I am sick with a flu / cold virus, sex will not be good for me, so a waste of my money to attend FKK. I prefer to go when healthy. Years ago took cough medicine and it caused my dick to have almost no feeling at all and not function. Ha Ha!
Is sucking dick more healthy than French kissing? I don't really know that for sure, but it may be less risky. Probably not less risky for contracting Herpes Simplex Virus type 2 (predominantly the genital type). Is kissing pussy less risky than French kissing, for catching HSV type 2? Probably not. As for common cold and Flu I believe a girl is at risk mostly just by being breathed on from close range. Not so much from kissing.
I think I agree here! Though this is my belief as I do not have any documentary data to prove this, but even I agree Kissing perhaps is a low risk activity from all perspective. Haven't heard yet in my life so far that anyone has contracted a FLU or a COLD because of Kissing. But Syzygies made a very interesting point. If someone is not well why the hell would he go to a FKK place in the first place so is the case with I guess even Kissing, even with your wife and girlfriend LOL! The kissing frequency, does it not automatically go down when one of your girl friend or wife is sick do you want to help her recover or do you want to burden her with kissing. So even that is the reason why FLU or COLD cases because of Kissing are not so commonly found because the natural tendency of human is not to kiss or make it less if the other person has cold or is sick!
[QUOTE=PChew;1518797]Actually I saw a couple of girls fully dressed and leaving Sharks with their luggages.
Talking to the reception lady about the weak lineup, she said a lot of girls worked over Christmas and New Year and they were starting to take holiday today. I guessed the same too.
The lady said they should return in 2 weeks, the time I will return, but I find it hard to believe. There is no way to tell if my favourite girls like Dina will be present unless I called the club a day or 2 before I go to the club.[/QUOTE]Sooo. I am confused. If it has a good line up I definitely prefer to be in Sharks for the Christmas period. I mean from 30.12 to 04.01. 2015 but normally I was planning to come for 14.01. 2015 and get back on 18.01. 2015 just to avoid Christmas because they will have a weak line up.
What you guys think?
Regards.
I visited Shark on Friday and Sunday this past weekend and there were a LOT of girls! The place was not busy at all. On Friday, there were so many girls (and not too many guys) so much that even Roxanna was sitting around and doing circuit all night. I think she only went to the room like 2 or 3 times at most. Even Janine was available and sitting alone on the couch for a good period. I arrived at 7 pm and left around 3 am.
Janine, 20, GER, long brunette, be, she looks very similar to Sarah Jean Underwood (Playboy Playmate). I waited from 7 pm trying to find my target and I saw her from the back going into the locker. Surprisingly I knew that it was her from only seeing her from the back. I then moved to the couch by the locker and waited. She was in the locker for a good 20 minutes before she came back out. I jumped right off my couch and sat next to her and booked her while she smoke her cigarrete. I was her first customer for the day.
Normally I ask if a girl would kiss but with her I just took her afraid that somebody else might grab her. Once in the room, as somebody mentioned, she pulled out her iphone and asked how long I wanted and checked the clock. I told her 1 HR hoping she would kiss. She actually kinda liked me and kissed me the whole session, no tongue of course. The kissing was decent. I tried to get her to open up but no matter what I tried she just won't have it. She did tell me a lot of personal stuff. The sex was OK, nothing to write home about. If it's not because of her look I won't repeat at all. As mentioned above, she was available later at night, sitting alone. I even tempted to try her again to get her to open more to me but decided to go with other girls instead.
She doesn't look at you and would close her eyes or look down during sex. And for her tits, I thought it was OK, this girl Haley from ROM (see below) has a much nicer tits. In the end she mentioned that maybe I should give her some tips in which I rejected in a nicer way. Performance wise I would not recommend her. She works only Friday and Saturday night arriving around 7:30 pm and leave between 3-4 am. She said she "malma"? (some word in German) on Sunday which I assume she meant rarely work on Sunday since she has a real job during the week.
Haley, 19, ROM, long brunette, super nice perky see, nice body with a little love handle. I first saw her walking in in normal clothes and she looked really nice (even better naked). She was at Shark for 2 mos in July and took a two mos break. It was her first or second day back from vacation (where she said she spent all her money). She normally doesn't kiss but make an exception on me. When doing BBBJ she would spit on the bed so this might turn some of you off. A very clean girl who would use Listerine, hand sanitization on herself, baby wipes on your dick, etc.
She DFK me and I enjoyed making out with her a lot! If open her up she would be excellent. She said she rejected a few customer because they want kissing but she didn't feel like it with them. I had such an amazing time with this girl. She is such a nice and very sweet girl. If I am rich enough I would just give her money and tell her to quit this job. That is how much I like this girl. Very highly recommended.
Andrea? (used Laura at Oase a few weeks ago), 20, student from Kiev, tall brunette, be, nice and tone body, probably the fittest girl in the whole place, also a very nice and sweet girl, her BBBJ skill is excellent, DFK, I enjoyed the session a lot! Highly recommend too.
Curious if Haley is Helli I took at Oase Automech Messe?
Arrived just before 2 pm and line up was not too great. Around 3 pm Haley, Andrea?, and Iris showed up so better selection for me. I decided to do a quick session with Haley and promised her that I would take her for another session after my soccer game at Commerzbank Arena which by the way was excellent.
Haley, 19, ROM, session was excellent as on Friday. I then left for the soccer game and didn't come back until 9 pm. Business was still slow on Sunday night and she was going to go home but came by to say Hi to me since I said I would take her again. Time flew by so fast with her. I normally only do 30 minutes session or 60 minutes at most. But I spent 100 minutes with her for 150 E. During the session she said she will come sit with me afterward until she leave eventhough I insisted her to go sit with her friend or walk around to make some money. She said she chose not to and wants to spend time with me outside the room. Of course we BS some more before she left the club. Again, highly recommend.
Iris, small and short, A cup, ROM, ponytail brunette, seems like a lot of customers like her. I had a great time with her 3-4 weeks ago so I grabbed her again. Excellent BBBJ skill, and great service. She seems to have a good customer base and got somewhat busy. This one tall and seems very young German guy always go to the room with her and sat with her on the couch for a very long time. I enjoyed the session would also recommend her.
Some notes about my recent Shark visits:
- Most if not all the girls I asked at Shark gave me a weird look when I asked if they kiss for a normal 50 E session. All of them replied with yes, unlike Oase where the majority would say no to 50 E and would do for a 100 E or in a longer session.
- There were so many girls on Fri and Sun. They also complained that not many customers on Sat. So, if you like Shark lineup (I prefer it more than Oase) now is a good time to visit.
- Janine, other than the look she seems a little overrated to me. She opened up to me a little but I challenge you to get her to show her pictures from her phone. She only showed one pic to me and that was it no matter how much I tried. She hates the food at Shark (which seems excellent to me) and would eat at McDonald (chicken mcnuggets) before she arrives at the club. So, if you see some cute girls at the McDonald in Darmstadt eating chicken mcnuggets, it's probably her.
- Haley (or Helli?) likes to sit by the couch close to the dancing pole. She starts to hang out with Asia and Iris. SO if you see a girl that fits this profile, it's her. Again, warning, she might not be opening up to a new customer but if you treat her well and with respect she is a very nice girl. And her boobs are much nicer than Janine!
- Roxanna, during my visit she was not too busy at all. I wanted to go with her but I saw her either after the room or after I promised Haley that I would go the room with her. She normally came by and gave me a big wet kiss when she first saw me in the club. She saw me going up to the room with Haley and disappeared for 90 minutes and she gave me the meanest look I have ever seen. She didn't want to talk to me afterward. I'm sure it's an act but I guess I won't be getting a Hello kiss in the future.
- Iris is very good in the room and has a very strong kegel muscle. She's going on vacation from mid Dec to Mid Jan.
- Asia is supposed to be a very nice girl but I didn't hit it off with her.
- Andrea (Laura in Oase) from Kiev is also excellent. She works out and does a lot of fitness exercise. Also highly recommend.
- I didn't see Maya during the trip. I also like her a lot.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1652277]Curious if Haley is Helli I took at Oase Automech Messe?[/QUOTE]It may have been Helli (it sounded like Haley to me). I have no idea but she is somewhat new to the FKK scene. Only started this job 4 mos ago with 2 mos break. I don't think she will last long since she seems to hate the job but only do it for the money. Gave her a try and tell her "BadinSweet" recommended her.
I don't think Janine can be called overrated, because I don't believe too many people rated her service highly in the first place. Some people, including yours truly, found her looks quite good and attractive. Her service, as you said, is spotty. I found her closing eyes to be a little disturbing, as it almost suggests an unwillingness to be there, as if against her will. We all know girls do this for money, but closing eyes indicates she strongly dislikes her circumstance, or the customer, or both. Perhaps she is still new and not yet accepting of her personal situation.
She did not kiss, but that was not a huge problem for me as I only kiss my very special girls, (although given her looks I would have been tempted to kiss her if she was willing). I found her to be honest, she was the only one who was not looking to cheat on time, among the nearly 15 girls I sessionedwith with on this recent trip. Also, the things she does, she seems to do well. She gave me a very long BBBJ and I had to pull out at the last second or else I would have come in her mouth (and I am not sure if she did not get a tiny bit in her mouth. She did not complain if she did, hence I gave her some tip). This was a big contrast to some other girls especially at Oase who would give a blow job and stop, complaining that their mouth was sore.
Anyway, my 2 cents.
Yesterday evening, there was a group of Germans who started gathering at the sofas in the money lockers area. All seats there were taken by 7. 25 pm. I vacated my place there at 7. 20 pm to get a drink and it was occupied once I returned. A blonde appeared at 7. 26 pm, sat with them and was unapproachable the rest of the night. I presume that must have been Janine. I had hoped to have a chance to try her out as I recalled an earlier report that she was free last Friday.
Anyway, LU was good yesterday, even in the early afternoon, so I had others to go with.
In the evening, I tried a new girl called Rosie, a medium height, very slim with slightly saggy tits Romanian with black hair. She was operating as a pair with a tall slim blond. I refused having a threesome and took her over her partner as she had an alluring smile. She was very accommodative in the room, and spoke English reasonably well. I wanted to try out her partner, who looked almost equally attractive, after that but could not find her.
Roxanna was busy throughout, so luckily I took her quite early on. Helli did not seem to have much business though, and approached me a few times, but somehow her aggressive vibes put me off from taking her.
The place was still lively and there were still targets I would have wanted to try when I left just after midnight. Still contemplating whether to return today or to go to the Oase Christmas party, which 3 of the girls in Sharks I chatted with yesterday said that they planned to attend.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1653051]I don't think Janine can be called overrated, because I don't believe too many people rated her service highly in the first place. Some people, including yours truly, found her looks quite good and attractive. Her service, as you said, is spotty. I found her closing eyes to be a little disturbing, as it almost suggests an unwillingness to be there, as if against her will. We all know girls do this for money, but closing eyes indicates she strongly dislikes her circumstance, or the customer, or both.[/QUOTE]Don't be so eager to try to read the girl's mind. We can't expect all girls to fall for us at first sight. LOL. If a girl wanted to close her eyes and imagine I was Brad Pitt, I wouldn't be too bothered. Naturally I don't close my eyes, because extremely pretty visuals are a big part of turning me on.
I find some girls are scared of me, but by the end of an hour session are starting to warm to me, and realise I am not dangerous. On the other hand can meet the odd girl that seems passionate from the very start. E. g. Roxanna has the knack of hooking a guy good and proper on the very first booking. Then its like I will never want to skip booking her. Very few Sharks girls have had the ability to make me keep returning. Most are just ordinary. Being a top girl is about hooking lots of guys to become regulars. Very smart girls should know what it takes to do this. Its a combination of looks, skills, warmth and apparent enthusiasm. Maybe Janine can get by with just the looks, however as tits are not that important to me, I did not need to try her as yet. Her waist to thigh ratio is a little less than ideal for me, without being too straight. Strangely I find Sascha with small tits a lot cuter for my taste. Also Nereya / Nerea (didn't try yet). Tits aren't everything, for many of us.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1653240]Strangely I find Sascha with small tits a lot cuter for my taste. Also Nereya / Nerea (didn't try yet). Tits aren't everything, for many of us.[/QUOTE]I also found Sasha extremely pretty and alluring with a model look. She was nice in the room but. As she warned beforehand. Only does LFK.
Unfortunately she convinced me to go to a cave room which was way too hot. A/C did not work.