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[QUOTE=MrHo;1602361]I can no longer lay on white sand beach and chill, I prefer laying around outdoor pool of German FKK, it suit me just fine LOL.[/QUOTE]Well in Thailand and many other Asian countries you can do both, lying on the beach and chill and party during the night, much cheaper than FKKs.
But it's of cause a different game-play.
I guess you love Germany because you want non-Asian girls?
[QUOTE=MrHo;1602361]I take over 10 hour flights few times a year just to goto German FKK to have sex mayhem. I mean that is real sign of so called sex addiction, but this journeys are best form of holiday for me, I can no longer lay on white sand beach and chill, I prefer laying around outdoor pool of German FKK, it suit me just fine LOL.[/QUOTE]Don't worry, Mr. Ho.
You're not the only crazy East Asian who got German FKK addiction.
I also took a goddamn painful long flight (12 hours in the economy class) from East Asia to Germany just for FKK recently.
This world is really ironic.
The average wages in Germany is 2 times of the average wages in my country.
However, the price of getting kissing+BBBJ+covered sex for 30 minutes in Germany is only 1/2 or 1/3 of the price in my country!
The poorer country in East Asia has a higher price for sex, while the richest country in Europe has a lower price for sex in the whole world!
That's why I say this world is really ironic!
I wonder how many people from other remote continents (Asia, America, Africa, etc) on this forum also got FKK addiction, and fly to Germany just to have a FKK vacation?
I mean, you don't live or work in Europe or Germany, you don't even have a chance to visit Europe or Germany for business reasons or other reasons.
You are there only for vacation (FKK vacation), and you have to pay everything by yourself (flights, hotels, the cost of living in Germany, FKK club entrance fee, and sex fee).
Anyone else here? LOL.
[QUOTE=NilleCopenhagen;1602559]Well in Thailand and many other Asian countries you can do both, lying on the beach and chill and party during the night, much cheaper than FKKs.
But it's of cause a different game-play.
I guess you love Germany because you want non-Asian girls?[/QUOTE]And in Brazil you can do all that and have non-Asian girls! Hehehehe! I keep trying to tell the people!
[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;1602636]Don't worry, Mr. Ho.
You're not the only crazy East Asian who got German FKK addiction.
I also took a goddamn painful long flight (12 hours in the economy class) from East Asia to Germany just for FKK recently.
This world is really ironic.
The average wages in Germany is 2 times of the average wages in my country.
However, the price of getting kissing+BBBJ+covered sex for 30 minutes in Germany is only 1/2 or 1/3 of the price in my country!
The poorer country in East Asia has a higher price for sex, while the richest country in Europe has a lower price for sex in the whole world!..[/QUOTE]Hahaha, Germany FKK is addictive enough that make me forget the distance LOL. I sometimes fly business class, but I even begin to calculate how much more I can have sex if I take economy and I take economy class sometimes, this is my addiction level, same goes for hotel etc. LOL I calculate the price difference to how many more girls LOL How ridiculous is that? But somehow I am so happy to base my thinking and decision making based on sex.LOL.
Well. I am sex addictive by choice and I aint going to stop pushing myself for better sex for the rest of my life, I am in my 30's and I been doing this since my teen, so I got ffw more decades to push myself if I am lucky. LOL.
I love German government for allowing to make such a thing as German FKK, what a liberal government.
[QUOTE=MrHo;1602738]I love German government for allowing to make such a thing as German FKK, what a liberal government.[/QUOTE]Yes of course. Yes they have the German Government done really good thing by making the FKK thing, but if they really want to promote this as a Sex Tourism thing, they should also be equally liberal in giving Visa to other countries which require a visa to get in to the Schengen area. Which unfortunately they are not. Lucky Hong-Kong, Singaporians, Japan, South Korea does not require a Visa to get in to any Schengen state, wish that had been the case with all parts of Asia.
Yes, "This world is really ironic. ".
Actually Germany, Austria, and Switzerland have their own mentality and life habit. FKK is actually a typical one. Also, for example, they do not like to own houses / apartments, but to rent, even if they are middle-class. They do not like to show off, to have luxury cars, but to do some plants in their gardens.
In other words, very few countries have this luck as Germany. Imagine in Italy, which is supposed to be an open country, and Sweden, which is also Germanic, prostitution is illegal.
People like FKK, maybe because of its well-organized system and ambiance. These reasons may be more dominating than the girls themselves. Basically, these Romanian girls are not too different from the Romanian girls you could meet in Spain, Italy, Belgium, Denmark, etc.
By the way, I am also a little addictive to this website (forum), as I also consider it as another tripadvisor.
[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;1602636]Don't worry, Mr. Ho.
You're not the only crazy East Asian who got German FKK addiction.
I also took a goddamn painful long flight (12 hours in the economy class) from East Asia to Germany just for FKK recently.
This world is really ironic.
The average wages in Germany is 2 times of the average wages in my country.
However, the price of getting kissing+BBBJ+covered sex for 30 minutes in Germany is only 1/2 or 1/3 of the price in my country!
The poorer country in East Asia has a higher price for sex, while the richest country in Europe has a lower price for sex in the whole world!..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TheCane;1601373]So why aren't there any photos of the girls being taken in the FKK clubs? I mean really. We get reports from other popular mongering destinations located all over the world that include photos. Why not from Germany? I mean nobody is checking us or shaking us down when we enter the clubs. So why not just discretely slip your camera into your robe like we do in Brazil? Then, you can ask the girl if she takes pics or not. If yes, then cool. And if not, then so be it. Come on guys, I think we need to start finding a way to get pics of the FKK tutes to go along with our reports! It's being done all over the globe everywhere else. Why should Germany be immune from the practice?[/QUOTE]Everything was said. There should be some privacy left for the girls. I find it very strange that you take a picture of somebody (WG or not) and post it on the Internet without the person's written consent. That is illegal. At least in Germany. If you did this without the anonymity of the Internet / ISG people could sue you. Poor WGs in 3rd World countries you are traveling to probably can't or won't.
Also if pictures showed up here and girls find out that would mean the end for those guys who like to take pictures for their private collection. I even think it is not fair to post detailed descriptions of girl's tattoos on a public Sex board. On LSH these descriptions are deleted. Same for pictures some guys feel they have to upload without these pictures being from some official Sex advertising page.
I do have tons of pictures of WG from German clubs, took them myself or of their Facebook. These girls trust me I don't post them on a public board and I won't.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1602866]Everything was said. I do have tons of pictures of WG from German clubs, took them myself or of their Facebook. These girls trust me I don't post them on a public board and I won't.
HB.[/QUOTE]I accomplished my goal here, which was to get people talking and debating about this in the FKK threads. Specifically what I'm curious about is why there are so many pictures all over the place on this site showing the WGs in other countries, but that you can hardly find any showing the FKK girls in Germany.
In my opinion, clearly it's not because all the guys in this section are somehow more "honorable" than the guys who frequent other parts of the site and would never take advantage of the "poor 3rd world WGs". I'm not buying that. Also, plenty would argue that mongers are already taking gross advantage by using the economic circumstances of the girls to pay for sex!
Further, I've been on this site for years and don't see you (and rarely anybody else) routinely protesting against pictures being posted in the FKK threads (when they show up) or anywhere else on the site. Occasionally somebody will say something about not exposing the face or tattoos or something like that, but that's mostly it. That's because I know that mongers (including the ones in this section) enjoy seeing real pics of real tutes. Immensely!
So given that, I ask again. Why aren't there more pictures of real FKK girls here that were taken by mongers during their trips? Four or so guys responding to my inquiry doesn't add up to "everything being said". Maybe it doesn't fit your moral ethical codes, but given the thousands and thousands of pictures that you can find all over the site, you four or so clearly don't represent everybody here. Yes many you do I would gather, but many, many more not given the evidence.
And by the way, I never said a thing about taking pictures secretly or without somebody's permission. So please don't attribute something like that to me. I didn't say that or even hint at doing anything like that.
Instead of posting your private pictures, why not post links to the best real pictures from the club's web site. Babylon-Elsdorf and Haus Panthera's pictures are pretty good. Samya, not so good. Oase, Living Room, etc, non-existent.
Yes, we are anonymous here. Yes, there is a picture section here in this forum for, surprise, posting picture. Anybody has gotten sued by ISG for posting picture on the picture section that is provided? Ok, we know HB really cares about the FKK girls now, maybe this is why he attends the FKKs.
Even if you exclude morals, being honorable, and such from the equation, there is a really good non-moral reason not to post these pictures. First, it will be obvious when the girl sees the picture that it was you who took the picture (based on location, her pose, what she might have been wearing or not wearing that day, etc). Once she finds out that you violated her trust and publicly posted a picture of her on a sex site, she will likely black list you and never speak to you again. And, she'll tell all her friends what you did. After that, who knows how many girls will black list you or give you poorer service because they know what an A-hole you are. Plus, you can forget about any other girls letting you take pics or video of them ever again. If you did this, you'd just be setting yourself up for some serious negative blowback.
Maybe you are thinking, yeah but I don't have to worry about that if I know I will never return to this particular club again. But remember that (1) girls move around and (2) if some guys start posting pictures, a few girls will be upset and word will get around to the other girls. Then, all the other girls will seriously think twice when the rest of us guys ask the girls for pics. They'll be all like, "Fuck that -- no way I'm going to let you take my photo or make a nice 'action' movie of us together. I know what you guys do! You all post that shit on the Internet".
Maybe you are thinking if you don't get caught, it'll all be totally cool? Do you guys steal from the barista's tip jar when the barista isn't looking?
Posting links to club pics are totally okay. I can even go along with reposting pics that used to be available publicly on a club web site. I could also go along with posting a girl's pic if she clearly consented to posting it (like if it's just a pic of her boobs or ass or something like that and she doesn't care if you post just that or something).
I don't even understand why we're debating this shit. I mean, it's not like a gray area or something. This is just common sense.
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1603031]I don't even understand why we're debating this shit. I mean, it's not like a gray area or something. This is just common sense.[/QUOTE]As PL said, there is a photo gallery in the FKK threads. I'm trying to figure out why it's not used more (and how we might change that). The last post there is more than a year old! This is in contrast to other popular mongering destinations such as Thailand, The Philippines, Brazil, Costa Rica, Dubai, Mexico, etc.
Although your last post supposedly was meant to highlight "non-moral" reasons for not posting pics of the tutes, when you break it all down it's just more of the same in disguise. Now, if you're saying that the guys on this site who frequent the FKKs are more "moral" than the ones who go to other countries to monger (which leads to them refraining from posting pics), then OK.
To that I say OK, but I'm not buying that either! Nobody is holding the moral high ground here. And, as a teacher once pointed out to me, there's no such thing as "common sense". If there was, then everybody would have it! And we would all agree on how to handle any situation right? But, we know that's not how life works. It all may appear to be black and white to you, but that's just you looking through your own set of lenses. Look through somebody else's lenses, and you may see plenty of gray.
There hasn't been a picture post in the FKK photo gallery since May 2013! I want to know why not? Germany is a popular enough mongering destination that we should have more pics of real live working tutes just like you can find in the photo galleries of other popular mongering destinations around the world. I understand all of the moral and ethical points. I get that OK? But the truth is that those points don't hold sway with all of the mongers who enjoy other popular destinations, so why here? Does every monger think about this like Hessen Bub, Ultrahappy, and Mr. Ho do? The answer (based on the evidence of pictures a plenty in other sections) is an unqualified no!
So with that, what's so "special" about the FKK experience that we don't have a more active FKK photo gallery? Can't we find ways to make it more active and useful to the readership? Ways to encourage mongers who want to post pictures to not hold back? There are plenty of picture takers out there who post photos on the site. All over the site. Where are the FKK picture takers and posters? For those of you whose morality would not be troubled, why aren't you posting pics in the FKK photo galley then? I know you're out there. You've got to be. You're everywhere else in the world. You've got to be here too. This is what I'm positing. You've got to be here, and we need to be enjoying your pics!
Sounds like these condoms might be available in a few months:
[URL]http://gizmodo.com/a-nanotech-powered-aids-killing-condom-is-closer-than-e-1609124914/all[/URL]
[URL]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2699944/World-HIV-killing-condom-available-buy-months.html[/URL]
Excerpt:
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The key component here is VivaGel, an antiviral gel powered by nanotechnology. The gel's active ingredient is millions and millions of nano-sized molecules. These perfectly symmetrical 3 the branching structures glom onto viruses like HIV, HPV, or the virus that causes genital herpes, preventing them from binding to human cells. No binding, no infection".
Hi guys,
After last weekend I went to FKKs for the first time, I also got a little depression as mentioned below. My reasons are:
- I am always thinking of the attractive ambiance and communication in a FKK, not for sex, but for many people hanging out and relaxing.
- As I am not in Germany now, I don't know when I could be there again. In one sense, I am jealous to people who live nearby Frankfurt, but on the other hand, if I live there, maybe I will go every day. It will cost me too much.
- I am a little regretful that I did not remember clearly the girls' names and contact. If I ask, I am sure many of them will tell me and I could at least keep contact with them from time to time.
- One thing I was very lucky is that I did a very good plan thanks to this forum. I went to Manhattan Friday evening, Oase on Saturday, and Sharks on Sunday. This made me get to know these three most important FKKs.
[QUOTE=Sucker17;1267544] Signs of me being an addict:
- After every trip I've made to FKK / nightclubs / brothels, I just can't be happy with myself if I don't have a new trip to look forward to.
- I don't like to go clubbing in my hometown, unless with a business supplier (that pays the bill) , because I would end up paying so much more on "normal" girls and without being sure if I get laid or not!
- I get a bit depressed when I get back from a trip to a FKK, not because the experience was bad, but that I know I have to wait a long time before next trip (one month at least LOL).
- I try to make my business travels to go where I know there's some sort of FKK / brothels.
- Most importantly I get this feeling that going to FKK / brothels is some sort of a drug habit for me. I just can't get enough!..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1603149]Sounds like these condoms might be available in a few months:
[URL]http://gizmodo.com/a-nanotech-powered-aids-killing-condom-is-closer-than-e-1609124914/all[/URL]
[URL]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2699944/World-HIV-killing-condom-available-buy-months.html[/URL]
Excerpt:
"a condom coated in antiviral gel that kills up to 99.9% of HIV, genital herpes, and human papillomavirus. Australia just said yes, and hopefully the USA Isn't far behind.
The key component here is VivaGel, an antiviral gel powered by nanotechnology. The gel's active ingredient is millions and millions of nano-sized molecules. These perfectly symmetrical 3 the branching structures glom onto viruses like HIV, HPV, or the virus that causes genital herpes, preventing them from binding to human cells. No binding, no infection".[/QUOTE]Even though girls takes shower between the sessions, considering how mayhem like orgy it get in FKK. It is quite amazing there are not any big out break of STD originating from FKK. At least I never heard any big one like HIV or I never caught anything myself.
I know that big club like Artemis (I am most familiar with) has in house Medical doctor and girls can take test when they want and also they have regular STD test every X weeks (I think 2 weeks), and things are pre cautiously in control, but considering fkk situation of big time international orgy. It is amazing how more or less safe fkk has been. Either way condom can protect most STD, the problem is DATY and also BJ without condom and raw fingering. Which I enjoy all of them very much) LOL Temptation against the risk.
I catch a cold now and then in FKK though, but I am not sure if it is from FKK or German cold at morning and night and hot during the day summer weather?