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[QUOTE=TheCane;2659604]Her tubes are tied after having some kids.[/QUOTE]You do not want to seek the arrangement for little cane do you LOL! Bareback can be risky in the nation where they can track you down legally LOL! And laws and public sentiment in USA is harsh! Harsh, that is the word!
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Now girl number two? It was [B]bingo[/B]! Late 20's, slim, pretty long blonde hair, big round blue eyes, an attractive face, fair white skin with just the right amount of pink in it that I love so, so much, luscious milk white titties, and a nice round butt. YAY-UH! We met for dinner, and the sexual attraction between us was instant and obvious. I mean, I was getting a boner under the table looking this girl and imagining myself inside of her! After dinner, there was hugging and kissing on the lips. You know you're up in there then! But, I chose not to push it and try to have sex with her that same night. No, we were both new at this, and I felt it was best for us to end it for the night on a great note and think about it, and pick it up again if we both felt it was right. We continued to communicate by text, and agreed to get together again in about a week. We agreed to go to an event together, after which time we would have lunch and come back to my place. To make a long story short, we ended up fucking BBFSCIP! That's right [B]no condoms[/B], and I "nutted" inside of her! It's what the both of us wanted from the very start (she admitted that she wanted to fuck me on the first date too). Oh my God [B]Steve[/B]! My boy [B]Steve[/B]! WTF?
Now don't worry. Before we went there (bareback sex), it was established that she has solid birth control. She can't get pregnant. And we're both clean. So going forward, we will continue to not use condoms, and The Cane will get to enjoy "multiple shots" inside of his new, attractive, blonde, trophy, sugar baby! Without having to worry about impregnating her! I'm sure you guys want to know what the terms of the "arrangement" are. We agreed to meet at least twice a month on a pay-per-meet basis of $250 per meet! For the tier 1 market that I live in, that's a steal! Most of the attractive white girls start out asking for between $500 and $1,000 per meet. With respect to Abby, I could not have asked for anything better. She's hot and has just the look that I like, the price is right, and I'm doing her [B]bareback[/B] with no need to pull out. [B]Nut inside[/B]! Oh [B]my[/B] God! Going into this, I felt like I could have some success. But, I didn't expect so much so soon! I mean, I met Abby within the first couple of weeks on the site! Now, that said, at this point I'm still convinced that after three months on the site, that's going to be enough for me. You have to do way, way too much work wading through knee-deep bullshit to find an absolute diamond like Abby. But, I'm here to add to the others who have said that Seeking can work. You're damn skippy it can work! If you're willing to put in the work (it's a lot). [B]Steve[/B]! Got damn! [B]My[/B] man! [B]Steve[/B]!
Over and out until my February report.[/QUOTE]Nice, congrats. When you find one where it connects and the PPM / allowance is low it feels like winning the golden ticket.
I had one in the Netherlands for a few months. I still miss her till this day. She just loved sex and give me a BBBJ for 20-30 min straight.
[QUOTE=Oneminuteboy;2659996]Nice, congrats. When you find one where it connects and the PPM / allowance is low it feels like winning the golden ticket.
I had one in the Netherlands for a few months. I still miss her till this day. She just loved sex and give me a BBBJ for 20-30 min straight.[/QUOTE]What happened to your relationship with her? Why and how did it end? Could be instructional for me.
[QUOTE=MrHo;2659885]You do not want to seek the arrangement for little cane do you LOL! Bareback can be risky in the nation where they can track you down legally LOL! And laws and public sentiment in USA is harsh! Harsh, that is the word![/QUOTE]Again, her tubes are tied. I had a Canadian girlfriend like this a long time ago. I could comfortably sperm inside of her without the either of us ever having to worry about an unwanted pregnancy. I was also taking her in the ass. Raw "chili" dog LOLOLOL! Have not progressed to anal sex yet with my sugar baby. Don't know if we ever will. We'll see. But I'm definitely not interacting with her like one of my tutes. More like a girlfriend. You enjoy your girlfriend. But you use a tute.
My SA account is getting suspended whenever I try to buy subscription. Anyone have the same issue.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2660003]What happened to your relationship with her? Why and how did it end? Could be instructional for me.[/QUOTE]There are a variety of innocuous ways it can end like she gets a better paying job or she realizes she is uncomfortable with this lifestyle (realizing it's sex for money or realizing that being out with an older man gets her the death stare — both these have happened) but the single biggest thing I caution against is advancing money.
I of course know that paying ahead is a bad idea in P4 P but I am not talking about that here. What I am talking about is when you are fully engaged with a girl for a time you will grow to know her and like her deeply (despite her flaws) and yes, care about her. You will also grow closer to her personal life (if you don't specifically cordon this off). And as a result, when she gets in a money bind, you might advance her some funds. You are thinking "well we will meet up again and we'll even out". But this is not what happens. Instead it hurts the relationship. Not intentionally really but my experience is it's hard / impossible to get her out again if you advance her a PPM or two. It's not that she's a scammer. You know her better by that point — I think they just need money and that feeling of "seeing you for free" when they could see someone else for money. Well it's no contest.
Anyhow it's happened a couple times. Usually can be healed with more money. LOL. But the idea of an advance against future dates def tends to kill things off. Least that is my experience.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2660030]But the single biggest thing I caution against is advancing money.[/QUOTE]Already thought about this, and it's one thing that won't happen with me. I'm very, very firm about it. Been there and done that a long, long time ago with "regular" girlfriends who start feeling entitled. They "deserve" it they start telling themselves. Not going to happen. There will be [B]no[/B] advances of funds. And if that causes things to end, then so be it. I'm a monger for crying out loud! Walking away from some pussy is damn [B]easy[/B] for me. Because I know there's some new pussy to be had somewhere else. I said NSA (no strings attached). And I meant it too! And a deal's a deal. It's $250 per meet, about twice a month, and that's final! We're not rewriting the contract.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2660003]What happened to your relationship with her? Why and how did it end? Could be instructional for me.[/QUOTE]Cane,
When I first started this, I was married. I had two women I would see once every 2 weeks. They were both gorgeous and given how enamored you are with your one, I would keep looking for a second one.
Early on, I thought it was amazing. Both women were stunning. Guys would whistle and stare at both of them. I was married, beaten down, and convinced that I could never have such women like that in my life when the truth is I could. I thought they were just interested in my money.
I get divorced and what I realize is that finding a hot woman without money is not hard. The hard part was actually getting them to realize I was not full of shit like everyone else. You would not believe how many women, even stunning ones, are dead ass broke.
I paid $400 a meet and saw the women every two weeks until I divorced. Then I was interested in others. I got more and got them for less. Eventually, I gave up on my two beauties.
I had a friend I saw in another state. Eventually, I would bring my women out to meet him. There was a married one and he said, "It is too bad she is married. She was the best one. " Later on, he told me that he thought one other girl might turn out okay but the rest were trash, and he was right. The one that "might be okay" was really the only one I missed a little. I did miss another girl I met a little, but I knew she was crazy.
And that is the secret of SA. You meet women who can do amazing things in bed and outside and look amazing, but in the USA, they are all fuck ups. There will always be something you can not put your finger on but it is there: drugs, booze, inability to handle stress, cannot manage money ETC, but it will be there. The only normal girl I had as a SB was not on SA and from another country where screwing for money was not the scarlet A it is in the USA.
If you are married, you will take your little sips of sex like a man wandering the desert finds an oasis. It will be enough. However, if you can see her a lot, eventually, you will want to try others. That amazing sex you just had will become routine. The women will typically give less and expect the same $$ or even more. They will have these money emergencies, and you help them out and a second later it is forgotten.
Right now, you remind me a little of the guy Jeff at the 9:49 mark in this video: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_aUwbt5Pos[/URL].
The reason I went abroad was that I found the same women who looked great and were great in bed, but at least some were not screwups.
The first two or three SBs were with condoms. Then it was like I do not accept anything but going bare and I did not even have to say it, the women somehow knew they just had to go bare.
Someone finally asked me why I only went out with beautiful women. He had a point, but my response was simple, "Because I can. " So yeah, congrats on hooking up with one and getting her bare ETC but you can find another like her. I know you can. I just want to make sure you know that you can. One woman who was a stunner herself said, "Those witches are not going anywhere."
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2660030]...Anyhow it's happened a couple times. Usually can be healed with more money. LOL. But the idea of an advance against future dates def tends to kill things off. Least that is my experience.[/QUOTE]If you have the budget, just give it without expecting anything in return. My buddy recently told me how much money he gave to a girl. I don't want to mention the number here because it would sound ridiculous. It worked out well for him. I know about it for more than a year because I said I would chip in to help too. At that time, my only advice to him was don't try to find the truth and don't expect any thing in return. The girl now is back to her own country. She and her family are set for the rest of her life because the money she has received. It's a long story so this is the short version.
The reason I did not stop him was because he saw me did something similar in a smaller scale and that's what he told me. LOL.
SA is more expensive than Tinder or Cupid. Is there any other difference between them? Is SA better in anything?
[QUOTE=Raj1587;2660028]My SA account is getting suspended whenever I try to buy subscription. Anyone have the same issue.[/QUOTE]Where are you located? I am in Canada. I tried to create an account and it didn't work.
[QUOTE=Raj1587;2660028]My SA account is getting suspended whenever I try to buy subscription. Anyone have the same issue.[/QUOTE]Yes, I had the same thing happen. You need to call Customer Service and have them manually process the payment. Good luck getting anybody to answer the telephone!
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2660108]Cane,
I get divorced and what I realize is that finding a hot woman without money is not hard. The hard part was actually getting them to realize I was not full of shit like everyone else. You would not believe how many women, even stunning ones, are dead ass broke. And that is the secret of SA. You meet women who can do amazing things in bed and outside and look amazing, but in the USA, they are all fuck ups. There will always be something you can not put your finger on but it is there: drugs, booze, inability to handle stress, cannot manage money ETC, but it will be there. The reason I went abroad was that I found the same women who looked great and were great in bed, but at least some were not screw ups. Someone finally asked me why I only went out with beautiful women. He had a point, but my response was simple, "Because I can. " So yeah, congrats on hooking up with one and getting her bare ETC but you can find another like her. I know you can. I just want to make sure you know that you can. One woman who was a stunner herself said, "Those witches are not going anywhere."[/QUOTE]I get it. Totally! I'm old enough and dated long enough to know that broke, gorgeous girls are everywhere you look LOL! Also, I already know that the one that I'm with now is fucked up in some kind of way. Already drips and drabs have come out from her. Money management issues. Relationship issues. Depression over her circumstances. But, I don't care as I'm not interested in any kind of serious relationship with her. Never have been and never will be. And, she's not having my baby! So, that's that. And dude you don't have to tell me there's plenty of fish in the sea. I'm a [B]monger[/B] remember? I just wish I'd had a man in my life when I was growing up who could really tell me what's what about dealing with women. Anyway, I'm working on setting up a meet and greet with another one this week. Younger, tighter, white, and blonde! Recent college grad. Yes Lord! [B]My[/B] man Steve! LOLOLOL!
[QUOTE=XViking;2660189]SA is more expensive than Tinder or Cupid. Is there any other difference between them? Is SA better in anything?[/QUOTE]SA is about relationships between older men and younger women. I have not been on Tinder, but I don't understand that to be the focus of Tinder at all. I'm sure it can and does happen, but if you want to maximize hooking up with much younger women, then I think sugar daddy sites would be the better way to go. If you can tolerate the knee-deep bullshit you have to wade through that is LOL! And, it definitely is expensive! I signed up for a three-month membership. At this point, I doubt that I will renew. I'm getting some numbers. Lots of numbers in fact. If I can build up a "practice" with a small stable of girls I'm fucking, that would be fine by me. No need to remain on SA.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2660030]There are a variety of innocuous ways it can end like she gets a better paying job or she realizes she is uncomfortable with this lifestyle (realizing it's sex for money or realizing that being out with an older man gets her the death stare both these have happened) but the single biggest thing I caution against is advancing money.
I of course know that paying ahead is a bad idea in P4 P but I am not talking about that here. What I am talking about is when you are fully engaged with a girl for a time you will grow to know her and like her deeply (despite her flaws) and yes, care about her. You will also grow closer to her personal life (if you don't specifically cordon this off). And as a result, when she gets in a money bind, you might advance her some funds. You are thinking "well we will meet up again and we'll even out". But this is not what happens. Instead it hurts the relationship. Not intentionally really but my experience is it's hard / impossible to get her out again if you advance her a PPM or two. It's not that she's a scammer. You know her better by that point I think they just need money and that feeling of "seeing you for free" when they could see someone else for money. Well it's no contest.
Anyhow it's happened a couple times. Usually can be healed with more money. LOL. But the idea of an advance against future dates def tends to kill things off. Least that is my experience.[/QUOTE]I feel like I have complete access to the Tao of Steve. (That's not sarcasm. That's a compliment.).