Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2295874]Is it just me but I don't like a gogo bar to be too big? I like to be able to see all the girls dancing if possible, and of course that is not possible, but the closer to it the better. Maybe my attitude doesn't make sense because more girls is more choice, but I used to be frustrated at Bacarrat that when seated I could see so few of the girls properly due to stage over crowding. I was probably frustrated too in Thermae when found it hard to get one of the best 3 girls in the place. Bigger does not seem to be better. Rotating stage sections can be a help for me. Would customers like to move around in a big gogo like they do in Thermae? Ha ha. I have certainly changed seat before but not too frequently. Is a really big gogo bar better, or two smaller ones better? Might depend on style and atmosphere I suppose. Are customers attracted to very full bars, or bars with more space available. I can recall thinking bars with lots of empty seats were a bit dead. Yet I did not go for an overly full bar either, especially if guys are standing in front of you or even right next to you, always wondering when going to cop a spilled drink.[/QUOTE]I don't think even with the expansion it is possible for Happy to be one big Go Go, that is impossible due to the location. When they are finished with the renovation and adding Beach Club next door to the mix it will feel separate from the main original stage. The whole setup will be like a square off horseshoe. As you walk down the outdoor path to Happy, Beach is on the right, as you get closer to Happy entrance to the left is the second stage but you need to enter through the main entrance then turn left / left to seat yourself at this stage. Everyone like to sit around the middle and main stage the current side stage is just an afterthought when they finish the renovation and attach Beach which is on the right it will be the same as the left side separate due to the foundation of the pillars of the building. Can't see it any other way there will be three stages and if the girls don't rotate fast enough you would be picking up your drink bin cup and looking for a new location?

Well the tour is at an end. Over the 5 days my wingman and I had our share of fun. Most daytime action was on soi 6. The bars around Lust on Soi were the pick and we did manage to find some good performers. Overall quality on soi 6 was ok IMHO. We did try Kinnaree once but found the girls to be too pushy and average. Performance a little mechanical too.

The nighttime action we tended to concentrate around LK metro and then ended up on WS. Pick of LK Metro gogos was Kink. Good looking girls and a lot of them. WS I thought that Sapphire still is still the pick. I had two girls from that bar and both were great performers. One a real GFE while the other was not quite a GFE but was very accommodating. Lots of BBBJ and DATY action.

Pattaya is still heaven for the monger. A lot of girls and if you have the time you will find what you are looking for. We certainly did. Thanks again to Banana Boi for introducing us to Kink.

Happy Hunting.

Yesterday I banged a Soi Chaiyapoon semi-regular. 1000 baht all inclusive.

I noticed that she had a new small tattoo. She said it cost her 700 baht. Then without any prompting from me she said that for a Farang that tattoo would have cost 2000 baht.

So, tattoos cost 3 times more for foreigners than Thais. Interesting. Looks like Thai cartel pricing is also present in the tattoo industry, not just the sex industry.

[QUOTE=Franga;2296133]Yesterday I banged a Soi Chaiyapoon semi-regular. 1000 baht all inclusive.

I noticed that she had a new small tattoo. She said it cost her 700 baht. Then without any prompting from me she said that for a Farang that tattoo would have cost 2000 baht.

So, tattoos cost 3 times more for foreigners than Thais. Interesting. Looks like Thai cartel pricing is also present in the tattoo industry, not just the sex industry.[/QUOTE]What's her name, name of the bar and was she any good?

[QUOTE=Franga;2296133]Yesterday I banged a Soi Chaiyapoon semi-regular. 1000 baht all inclusive.

I noticed that she had a new small tattoo. She said it cost her 700 baht. Then without any prompting from me she said that for a Farang that tattoo would have cost 2000 baht.

So, tattoos cost 3 times more for foreigners than Thais. Interesting. Looks like Thai cartel pricing is also present in the tattoo industry, not just the sex industry.[/QUOTE]The reason for that is that farang do not like to bargain. For them first price is final price. How many times have I said to work out a price on Soi 6 OR like you said 1000 all in for your chick (massage or Chaiyapoon), where other guys are paying 1000 plus the massage or 1000 plus the room. I just left Mike's shopping where I bought a Buriram and Thailand football shirt. Dude started at 400 baht each. I told him 200 baht. We settled at 250 each.

Also, I had a chick over last night that has a partially done big tattoo on the upper right side of her back. She said it cost 6000 baht, prepay. She has to go back and get it finished. This is the same chick I know that used to come from Bangkok some weekends to work on Beach Road. She used to always talk shit because I would only pay her 1000 baht LT (but she would always accept it). That was a couple of years ago. She has since moved to Pattaya and gotten a good job. This morning when I took her home I had the same 1000 baht ready for her. But before I gave it to her I asked if I need to give her money. (She was acting more of a normal girlfriend than before.) She said no. Then she said give me 100 baht. I gave her 100 baht.

We were also talking about how it is monkey see monkey do around here. She said that her tattoo place said they are not making any money now. A few years ago things were good, but now everybody and their mom has opened a tattoo shop. Barber shops and coffee stands have also sprung up. Nobody can make any money around here for all the copycats.

Had a great time.

Spent nights split up between GoGos near Walking Street, Soapies near Soi 2, Soi 6 bars and the Freelancers on Beach Road. Spent days at lo key bars on 2nd St and by the pool.

Gogos, Windmill and Dollhouse were the best. Tried a Russian one, Eden? Windmill and Dollhouse were great, the Russian place a dud with overpriced drinks.

Soapies, 3 times, didn't spend more than 2800 baht total, had great girls.

Freelancers: spent 1000 to 1200 baht, had great girls the one with 1200ST was worth it and she went the extra 20% for me (I appreciate the extra attention).

Soi 6: spent 1000 to 1500 baht. Went twice both at night, bit overwhelmed and didn't spend enough time choosing the right girls. I think if I would have taken my time, it would have been better.

My buddy liked the bar girls the best (he found one lady for 500 baht after she got off work, OK looking but I rather spend more for a looker), I liked the Soapies best, with best value the freelancers.

Next time, longer trip like a month. This trip was just 7 days, so I wanted to explore. What do LT people do? Do you keep a lady just for one night or multiple nights? I think if I found a freelancer I liked, I think 1700-2000 baht a day for say 3 to 7 days would be nice. I did get the LINE of a freelancer that I liked, what is a fair number to offer for a week? (its the one I paid ST 1200 baht for) BTW- She has texted me often, so I know she is interested but her normal rate 2500 baht a day for a week seems a lot especially since I am picking up meals and whatever.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2292091]I don't recall any other gogo bar in Pattaya charging different rates for lady drinks other than coyotes are usually 50 baht less than "models" who are topless or nude. You mentioned you were upstairs so weren't all those "Models"?

I've also never heard a gogo bar in Pattaya charging 250 baht for a lady drink, especially not in budget conscious LK Metro. You should try some of the other high mileage gogo bars in Pattaya for prettier skanky girls because I was at Kink downstairs twice this week and it scared me when they lowered the stage and I had to even look at the "models" from upstairs.

You mentioned you were with a very experienced monger. Why didn't he tell you that you were being hustled having to buy drinks for girls every 10 minutes and that you needed to tip them 100 baht to touch them. Neither is true. I have NEVER had to tip a girl extra to feel them up. 3 to 4 drinks maximum per hour is the right pace to keep a girl there all night.

Marine Seafood is ok and inexpensive. Located on one of the side sois off Walking Street near Peppermint gogo. http://www.bangkok.com/pattaya/pattaya-top10s/top10-seafood-restaurants.htm

Not criticizing you I'm appreciative of some actual gogo bar reviews. Just trying to help you save some cash.[/QUOTE]BB, we mainly wanted to expose the newbie to it; I only bought one LD and one beer for myself. As you rightly point out, most of the 'models' are pretty skanky. LOL. Same kind of hustle at Windmill off Walking Street BTW, went there a few days later. Again, just to check it out and show the newbie around. I stopped posting as got too busy with pool, massage, and juggling a daytime GF and an overnight GF. Tough life being a monger. Could be I got confused as to the LD prices, not sure. Back home now, I need to catch up on the posts for the rest of the week I was there. Had a blast, as usual.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2292155]If you like seafood so much, you should check out the seafood market in Naklua during the day. You walk around and buy your fresh seafood, then you take it to one of the many stalls outside to cook up for you. Not as expensive as the restaurants in town.[/QUOTE]Mr. E,

That was the place we were looking for that I remember from a trip a few years ago. Couldn't recall on this trip, wish I had. Ah well, next time in a few months for sure.

[QUOTE=Generalm;2296273]
I know she is interested but her normal rate 2500 baht a day for a week seems a lot especially since I am picking up meals and whatever.[/QUOTE]Not really expensive if she is one of the hotter freelancers. You have to think of it from her point of view and how many 1200 baht short times she will be losing if going with you LT for 2500 baht. If she can get 3ST's then she is showing a loss.

It seems to me that most freelancers will go for 2000 baht per day. And skankier older ones may even go for 1000 baht.

[QUOTE=Generalm;2296273]
Next time, longer trip like a month. This trip was just 7 days, so I wanted to explore. What do LT people do? Do you keep a lady just for one night or multiple nights? I think if I found a freelancer I liked, I think 1700-2000 baht a day for say 3 to 7 days would be nice. I did get the LINE of a freelancer that I liked, what is a fair number to offer for a week? (its the one I paid ST 1200 baht for) BTW- She has texted me often, so I know she is interested but her normal rate 2500 baht a day for a week seems a lot especially since I am picking up meals and whatever.[/QUOTE]I break LLT into two categories depending on the freedom I want: if I just happen to keep the girl for day after day, unsure how many days I will keep her, I just pay her daily rate repeatedly; if I know I'm going to keep her X days then pre negotiate a reduced rate for that time period.

For a week, that reduced rate would typically be roughly her ST rate times 7. Obviously other factors need to be taken into consideration: a busy girl is unlikely to agree to just one ST payment per day; going on a holiday or somewhere attractive to her sweetens the deal. I never consider paying for her food, 5 star accommodation etc a factor in her payment. Her family can't eat air conditioning or nice sheets. 😉.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Franga;2296387]You have to think of it from her point of view and how many 1200 baht short times she will be losing if going with you LT for 2500 baht. If she can get 3ST's then she is showing a loss.[/QUOTE]You are looking at it from a purely "possible income" point of view which is not the best way to look at it. You assume she is going to get 3 ST, which may not be the case. (And remember there are way more chicks around this place than active mongers.)

To obtain 3 ST she has to spend time looking for and obtaining customers, which is work. When she finds them she will have to go from place to place fucking 3 times per day. The LT guy is probably not going to fuck her 3 times per day and she already has her bird in the hand as opposed to 3 in the bush.

So put it like this, would you rather go to work and pay for your own daily expenses with the chances of making 3600 baht per day, or be on an all expenses paid vacation while getting paid a sure 2500 baht per day? With the 3600 she could possibly have 1100 baht in expenditures which is going to net her 2500 anyway!

Sorry for the delay, but now that I am back home and working my butt off to be able to afford to head there again, I have little time to do these reports. I will catch up bit by bit.

After we spent an hour or so in Kink playing and watching and drinking and fending off the lady drink hustle, we headed out to check out the beer bars in the area. Did a fair bit of cruising around, most of the talent was less alluring than the minimum needed to begin negotiations for company for the night. Went into dozens of places, didn't drink much, mostly did a quick survey and headed back out. Had a Guinness at Witherspoons where a great band was playing, and also went down to Toy Bar off 2nd Road where a pretty good Philippine band was also playing. Not really wanting to head back to the hotel alone, I decided to make another pass through LK even though it was now quite late and the place was emptying out. My wingman had found company and was just being a good buddy watching me unsuccessfully search, LOL. A spinner bolted out of a dim bar not far from Devil's Den and grabbed my arm and wouldn't let go, LOL. She was older than my preference, but the figure was superb and attitude seemed excellent (or maybe the rent was due and she was desperate for a customer, who knows). Had a drink and on the spur of the moment I decided WTF and pulled the trigger. It was Lucky Friend You bar, mostly older ladies there. But fun anyway. 300 bt to the bar, and she agreed 1 K all night. Headed back to the hotel.

What a good choice I ended up having made! Totally attentive, sweet, rockin' body, and it must've been quite some time since she got adequate action, because she became a tigress in the sack. Had a great session and passed out about 2:30 AM. Then was awakened by the cutie working my parts at about 4 and we had another great session Passed out again as I was really spent, and I'll be damned. Wouldn't you know it, at around 9 AM woke up to more tinkering of my parts. A man has to do what a man has to do, so I buckled down and had yet another great session, followed by a swoon into unconsciousness. And. Drum roll. At around noon AGAIN I was woken up by a needy babe next to me and had a FOURTH session. Holy shit, I am in my mid-60's and this hasn't happened to me in a dog's age. After finishing at nearly 1 PM, my phone rings and its my wingman asking if I am alive or not. Told him I just finished a fourth session and might be in need of food and some kind of recuperation, LOL. We all went out to breakfast after cleaning up (love having breakfast at 2 PM!) and sent her on her way with a 300 bt tip. What a night. Headed back to the hotel pool where I attempted not to drown from the physical exhaustion of the night's exercises.

All in all, would repeat. In fact, I DID repeat. Stay tuned.

[QUOTE=Howie;2292762]Are there any clubs around Jomtien beach worth visiting?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zman429;2293008]Jomtien has a walking street you should definitely check it out.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Danubius;2293518]And where should that be? If you mean the "walking street" around the Jomtien Complex, that is an entirely gay area.[/QUOTE]There is actually a "Walking Street" in Jomtien and there are even signs at both entrances showing the name Jomtien Walking Street. However, just like stated above, that area is entirely for gay people and there are only gay bars there. The best suggestion for the OP is to check out Soi 7 and that is a rather long street with girle bars. Soi Whitehouse is a good street to check out too, and it is next to Soi 7.

[QUOTE=Bdonkadonk;2297037]There is actually a "Walking Street" in Jomtien and there are even signs at both entrances showing the name Jomtien Walking Street. However, just like stated above, that area is entirely for gay people and there are only gay bars there. The best suggestion for the OP is to check out Soi 7 and that is a rather long street with girle bars. Soi Whitehouse is a good street to check out too, and it is next to Soi 7.[/QUOTE]I saw several places on WS with sign says "Russian Girls" and there are several good looking ones hanging near the entrance. They definitely looking like Russians. Are these girls bar-fine-able? Anyone with experience in these places? Thanks in advance for your input.

Cheers,

[QUOTE=NguyetLang;2297337]I saw several places on WS with sign says "Russian Girls" and there are several good looking ones hanging near the entrance. They definitely looking like Russians. Are these girls bar-fine-able? Anyone with experience in these places? Thanks in advance for your input.

Cheers,[/QUOTE]You must mean Walking Street in Pattaya and not Walking Street in Jomtien. I live in Jomtien and usually never visit Jomtien Walking Street because it is all gay there. Yesterday I made an exception and went there just to take some photos, that I uploaded in my previous post, and I didn't see any girls at all there, only gay guys.

I know the Russian clubs that you are thinking of, that is in Pattaya Walking Street and they are not good. Sure, some of the Russian girls are good looking but you better avoid them. The Russian girls in Pattaya are known to be rip off girls so not worth it to bother at all about them.