Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Moris54; 1546954]I prefer the Majestic Grande tucked away at the corner right across from Annies. I have stayed at a couple of 5 star hotels which don't even match up to this little gem. Ala JW Mariott.

To name just one.

The location is perfect and private and most girls love the hotel and I noticed some of the girls I picked from the Nana Area seems to chit. Chat with the door staff which suggested to me they know each other. Many girls also comment on their breakfast service so its a good place to entice a LT as it seems like a place they enjoying going to and being at.

This is my go to place in BKK when mongering. Unless I feel like splurging on a true luxury hotel experience. But mongering in such venues is not as "free"[/QUOTE]OK, you know the deal around Nana pretty well it seems. Yes, in regard to possibly enticing an LT, Majestic Grand would generally have an advantage over Nana Hotel. Probably the same into converting a ST into and extended ST or LT. I guess that's a factor one must consider when spending the extra 600 or so bahts over Nana Hotel.

Hi guys.

I am planning to be in Bangkok for half a week. In some of the older reports I have heard of men who contracted "girl friends" or LT girls for a few days. These girls would guide them, maybe cook for them, provide service and in general show them around.

What is the generally accepted price for such LT services? Also, any recommendations?

[QUOTE=Lord Necros; 1547134]Hi guys.

I am planning to be in Bangkok for half a week. In some of the older reports I have heard of men who contracted "girl friends" or LT girls for a few days. These girls would guide them, maybe cook for them, provide service and in general show them around.

What is the generally accepted price for such LT services? Also, any recommendations?[/QUOTE]Unattractive bar girl (3k to 4k per day) with bar taking 1 to 1. 5 k of that for barfine. Cook and do laundry.

Avg Issan bar girl (4 to 5k a day) cook only, fast food meals Ok, but you pay everything.

Cute bar girl (8k to 15k per day) cook rice and Thai dish only, but only at night.

Avg Go Go Girl (8k to 12k / day) microwave warmup, but no laundry, Tuk Tuk Ok.

Cute Go Go Girl (10 to 18k per day) no cooking, make you cook for her, Skytrain OK, but no Tuk Tuk.

Go Go Stunner (20 to 30k / day) no cooking, eat out all the time. 4 star hotel min

Go Go Superstar (one week min, 250k flat charge for entire week) 5 star hotel min.

G club girl 15k to 20k / day 5 star hotel min, cab Ok, only nice restaurants like " Took Lae Dee" at Foodlander or better

Escort agency girls 12 to 35k / day. 4 star min, fly coach to other asian destinations OK, Tuk Tuk Ok if girl approves.

G Club stunner 20 to 40k per day. 5 star hotel min, limosine service only, no Tuk Tuk, regular cabs only when limo service not available

(off market) model agency girls (50 to 100k / day) 5 star hotel only, only eat at top restaurants, travel other asian destinations only first class or private jet, shop at Siam once a week 50k budget, gaming allowance 25k/day if in Macau

Terminal 21 "special girls" (talk to doorman guy in white uniform about "nice weather", then salute him (in that order) and if he salutes back, he knows what you want) 100k/day flat rate, no other charges, Skytrain OK, but no subway unless journey begin at Terminal 21 Sukhumvit stop.

[QUOTE=Western787; 1547083]LOL, after taxes and living expenses $100, 000 / yr NYC today? One is living near poverty, and that's w / o a car. Hookers? You mean like crack hoes?

As for the visuals, while she is not going to precisely look like the drop dead stunner you saw working the desk at Terminal 21 or the Hi So 10 you spotted in Siam, the fact is that anyone knowing Bangkok, whether high-frequency visitor or resident can come up with a P4P beauty to sleep with pretty much any night of the week. Now, it might only be once a week depending upon ones resources and so forth, but its doable. That's not routinely the case in either NYC or other major western cities for average males over 45. Despite the ongoing decade long decline in the P4P scene in Bangkok, that difference still exists vs western cities. So in Bangkok, the visuals pretty much become the reality. Yes, when moving about in Bangkok one sees no-touch fantasy level (non-P4P or mistress level) beauties all day long, but every time you see one you know damn well, if you so desire, you will soon be sleeping with one almost as beautiful.[/QUOTE]The differences are why I live her for sure, but I would not say "you would be sleeping with one almost as beautiful." It is a very rare occasion I see a P4P gal at any venue as good looking as the gals that I see shopping in malls or eating and drinking in places along Thong Lor with their rich metrosexual Thai dudes. I am really not attracted to the Isaan look at all. High cheek bones and square jaw lines just don't do it for me and haven't for a long time. What attracts me? Easiest to say is the Thai TV stars. Girls are amazing. It is really interesting how one's taste change.

A friend's GF once remarked,"When farang first come to Thailand, their eyes don't work." I think that is true for most of us. It has been for me.

Frustrating thing is most of those gals are very much like Western women. They want dudes their age with money. That is true of BKK, NYC, or where ever. If one is loaded, one gets great looking girls.

But, there is always an oily when one gets really worked up.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1547055]Clearly you've never seen the girls of Singapore.

If I'm a retired guy making 6 figs, BKK is several hundred percent better value than NYC. There's no comparison. They're miles apart. There's also matters like the climate, feminism, the fat plague & prostitution law.[/QUOTE]True! Sing has some great looking gals. But some interesting attitudes. Prostitution is illegal in Thailand, and at some point that will be enforced. The climate in Thailand is really pretty awful. Way too hot.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1547267]True! Sing has some great looking gals. But some interesting attitudes. Prostitution is illegal in Thailand, and at some point that will be enforced. The climate in Thailand is really pretty awful. Way too hot.[/QUOTE]Prostitution is not illegal in Thailand. Pimping is illegal; being a nuisance is illegal; exploiting a brothel is illegal.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot; 1547266]The differences are why I live her for sure, but I would not say "you would be sleeping with one almost as beautiful." It is a very rare occasion I see a P4P gal at any venue as good looking as the gals that I see shopping in malls or eating and drinking in places along Thong Lor with their rich metrosexual Thai dudes. I am really not attracted to the Isaan look at all. High cheek bones and square jaw lines just don't do it for me and haven't for a long time. What attracts me? Easiest to say is the Thai TV stars. Girls are amazing. It is really interesting how one's taste change.

A friend's GF once remarked,"When farang first come to Thailand, their eyes don't work." I think that is true for most of us. It has been for me.

Frustrating thing is most of those gals are very much like Western women. They want dudes their age with money. That is true of BKK, NYC, or where ever. If one is loaded, one gets great looking girls.

But, there is always an oily when one gets really worked up.[/QUOTE]As someone said "What you take for granted, others are praying for"

Farangs living in Bankgok can easily get spoiled. And obviously if one can pick out drop dead beauties in Siam or Terminal 21 or on the Skytrain or whereever. Then their eyes are still working.

As far as the typical Issan look, no its not optimal, and its no secret that most drop dead beauties in Bangkok tend to have some kind of Thai / Chinese mixture.

Lets assume for purposes of discussion that some of these drop dead beauties could literally be propositioned for P4P sessions, the actual women one might notice when going about one's business in Bangkok.

I guarantee you, next some of the long term Bangkok resident or high-frequency visitor types would be in here bitching: "didn't notice initially, but turns out her tits are fake, big turnoff" "poor performance," "mouth too small for good DFK","not experienced enough" ("wouldn't put her nose up my ass") 'refused to rim me" "wouldn't let me fuck her in the ass despite me generously lubing her up" "too shy" "got all clingy","no PSE at all," "after only an hour pumping her hard, said she was sore, obviously an attitude problem "starfish"."too tired for round 3" "wouldn't deep throat" "no swallow" "not so hot under different light"

Or as Aldous Huxley once said "most human beings have an almost infinite capacity for taking things for granted.”

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1547307]Prostitution is not illegal in Thailand. Pimping is illegal; being a nuisance is illegal; exploiting a brothel is illegal.[/QUOTE]Prostitution is in fact illegal in Thailand, but the law as written also includes clauses about the necessity of creating a public nuisance or other terms making the law somewhat ambiguous

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1547267]True! Sing has some great looking gals. But some interesting attitudes.[/QUOTE]Yep, some absolute stunners in Singapore. I personally think Hong Kong has better looking girls than Sing, but only just. As for attitude, it's the 5 C's that Sing girls are after, Car, Condo, Cash and Credit Cards. A lot of girls won't go out with older foreigners either, they don't want to be seen as "that" type of girl.

Plenty of hookers from everywhere in Singapore for any budget, pity it's just so expensive to live there.

Its OK now with plenty of hotties in Rainbow 4 and elsewhere in Bangkok, but eventually one will need a "game" to entice Bangkok P4P hotties. This will give you some idea what will eventually be required.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtshlipvyIc

[QUOTE=Goatscrot; 1547266]I am really not attracted to the Isaan look at all. High cheek bones and square jaw lines just don't do it for me and haven't for a long time. What attracts me? Easiest to say is the Thai TV stars. Girls are amazing. It is really interesting how one's taste change.

Frustrating thing is most of those gals are very much like Western women. They want dudes their age with money. That is true of BKK, NYC, or where ever. If one is loaded, one gets great looking girls.[/QUOTE]The problem with most TV stars is that they look too close to western, with many mixed Thai-western girls. Mostly I don't like this, there are exceptions like old stars: Sonya, Marsha, Benz, Teya, etc. I generally like a real Thai look. So the majority of leading ladies are too western looking for me. Some of us want a more exotic look.

Big square faces do not attract me. Those are actually far more common in the north of Thailand, e. G. Chiang Mai, rather than Isaan. On the other hand some Chiang Rai girls are very good looking with smaller faces (and no square jaw). There are plenty of Isaan girls with no broad nose, no square jaw, and a non-broad face. I don't particularly go for round faced nor Chinese like looks generally either. When I look at Chinese tourists in Thailand, I would say 99% are very plain looking. Hard to find a pretty one. In the company I work for in Europe, the Asian girls are mostly very pretty. Not a representative selection at all. I suspect the hiring selection criteria is not just for brains.

Thais and Japanese are liking girls to look as western as possible and blinded by skin colour. I want them not to look western at all, natural, and skin colour can be light or dark, it doesn't matter.

The problem is beautiful girls, 9-10's, Thai or otherwise, is that they don't really need to try hard, at anything. They don't have to actively seek out a guy, nor want to please them (unless they are in love) as they know that guy is not their only option. They can pick and choose from the plethora of rich dudes available and most will be little puppy dogs waiting on hand and foot to these girls.

Now, there are beauties that are in the industry who are seasoned and provide all the services a guy may desire. Rimming, anal, BBBJ, etc, and they come at a price. These are professionals. For the non-pro hi-so girl out and about town there is no incentive at providing such services even though she is enticed by P4P to make some money. They deem that being with them, seeing them naked is reward enough.

Now its all about your environment. I have been very active in the NYC P4P scene and there are drop dead gorgeous girls who will do what you want, when you want it, if you have the deep pockets and can accomodate them at the Plaza Hotel. Just take a drive down to Jersey and you will find the same hot girls, who will do everything you want at a fraction of the price for longer at a Best Western Motel. Environment plays a factor. Thai culture is very judgmental and a lot of hi-so thai girls will not want to be seen with foreigners. Even though they may be P4P they mingle within their own circles. It comes with the territory.

I have a lot of Thai girl friends who used to work with me in NYC. Girls who dated black, white, asian, indian, latino, etc. When I meet them in Thailand they explain to me that no moderately successful Thai man would see her a GF / Wife potential if they have dated / slept around with other guys of other races and even though they have that freedom outside of Thailand, they are stuck in the cultural warp that so controls their life in their countries.

So these hotties all over Bangkok will be fair game and a easy lay if they were plucked out of that environment. I don't think we should read it as an commentary on how they view foreigners. This is apparent in every country with deep cultural traditions that has dictated societal norms for centuries and more.

I would much rather get the sexual experience of my life then be stuck with a hi-so hottie who is a door-knob in bed. This is only good for impressing your friends, business partners and being the envy around town. It ain't going to matter much once they burn a hole in your pocket and you have nothing but unused condoms to show for it.

[QUOTE=Western787; 1547215]Unattractive bar girl (3k to 4k per day) with bar taking 1 to 1. 5 k of that for barfine. Cook and do laundry.

Avg Issan bar girl (4 to 5k a day) cook only, fast food meals Ok, but you pay everything.

Cute bar girl (8k to 15k per day) cook rice and Thai dish only, but only at night.

Avg Go Go Girl (8k to 12k / day) microwave warmup, but no laundry, Tuk Tuk Ok.

Cute Go Go Girl (10 to 18k per day) no cooking, make you cook for her, Skytrain OK, but no Tuk Tuk.

Go Go Stunner (20 to 30k / day) no cooking, eat out all the time. 4 star hotel min

Go Go Superstar (one week min. 250k flat charge for entire week) 5 star hotel min.

G club girl 15k to 20k / day 5 star hotel min, cab Ok, only nice restaurants like " Took Lae Dee" at Foodlander or better

Escort agency girls 12 to 35k / day. 4 star min, fly coach to other asian destinations OK, Tuk Tuk Ok if girl approves.

G Club stunner 20 to 40k per day. 5 star hotel min, limosine service only, no Tuk Tuk, regular cabs only when limo service not available

(off market) model agency girls (50 to 100k / day) 5 star hotel only, only eat at top restaurants, travel other asian destinations only first class or private jet, shop at Siam once a week 50k budget, gaming allowance 25k / day if in Macau.

Terminal 21 "special girls" (talk to doorman guy in white uniform about "nice weather", then salute him (in that order) and if he salutes back, he knows what you want) 100k / day flat rate, no other charges, Skytrain OK, but no subway unless journey begin at Terminal 21 Sukhumvit stop.[/QUOTE]Thank you mate.

This was some damn good help.

This is so detailed that I am worried that you just pulled my leg. ^_^

[QUOTE=Western787;1547215]Terminal 21 "special girls" (talk to doorman guy in white uniform about "nice weather", then salute him (in that order) and if he salutes back, he knows what you want) 100k/day flat rate, no other charges, Skytrain OK, but no subway unless journey begin at Terminal 21 Sukhumvit stop.[/QUOTE]Don't give away the secrets, man.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot; 1547266]A friend's GF once remarked,"When farang first come to Thailand, their eyes don't work." I think that is true for most of us. It has been for me.

Frustrating thing is most of those gals are very much like Western women. They want dudes their age with money. That is true of BKK, NYC, or where ever. If one is loaded, one gets great looking girls.[/QUOTE]Yes, the eye part is very true. I still like a slightly "tanned" girl, probably because I'm so darn white. But the dark, heavily Isaan, look no longer does it for me, either. Chinese features with Thai eyes is a very, very nice look, IMHO.

Maybe the young girls are more like Western women, I'm not sure. That is a depressing thought. I don't really care for 18. 25 year olds because they are such twits. Nice looking, fun to joke around with, but twits nonetheless. I've found that an older guy can have a very nice GF much younger than one he'd be able to have in farangland. In my experience, girls from 10 to 15 years my junior had absolutely no qualms about hanging out with me. Try that in LA or NYC. But, much beyond 15 years and it's all P4P. There is nothing in common within granddaughter / grandfather relationships.

Now money, of course, changes the dynamic completely. It always has and always will. But, IMO, arm candy and trophy wives have far more in common with the bar girls of Patpong than middle class women.