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[QUOTE=Ballsout69;2763629]Can anyone tell me if any of the girls play with a female that I bring to the club? My wife really likes girls so she would either want to play with one solo or with me as part of a three some. Any input?[/QUOTE]I remember a couple with Dina. Hu. Call desk to ask if still possible. Some girls should lick your wife. If she is pretty and want more sex, can manage to organize.
[QUOTE=Adindas;2761595]A ridiculous rate hike EUR100/30 make people to think twice before visiting FKKs. Unless they have other things to do, why would they need to travel miles away if they could get similar result on their doorstep.[/QUOTE]Agree entirely with this. I have not been on an FKK tour since the pandemic. It was one of the things I was looking forward to when travel reopened but all the reports of prices doubling with no improvement in services or quality of girls has put me off from making a tour when between 2014 and 2019 I would visit 2 to 4 times a year with durations of 2 to 6 days at a time. I could live with 150/60 but 100/30 is prohibitive especially as one of the attractions for me would be to have 2, 3 or even 4 girls at a time. At E50 a pop you can also afford to experiment, have fluffer sessions, and write off and abort poor sessions etc but when I add costs of airline and hotel, I can get more pussy for the total cost staying in Dubai or London (even if E100 for 30 mins is still generally cheaper than equivalent girls in Dubai).
Unless things improve either by 30 min sessions coming down to a reasonable 70 euros or the new normal ensures good service unless you're unlucky and you actually get the full time then I can't see myself specifically travelling for a Frankfurt sex tour. I will still visit as I love the FKK scene and vibe but I think it's more likely to be a stopover trip in Frankfurt for 2-3 days when travelling between London and Dubai so I'm not paying extra for flights like I did earlier this year when I chose to have 2 days in Zurich on my way back to Dubai to sample the sex scene in Zurich.
[QUOTE=BeWilder;2763748]Agree entirely with this. I have not been on an FKK tour since the pandemic. It was one of the things I was looking forward to when travel reopened but all the reports of prices doubling with no improvement in services or quality of girls has put me off from making a tour when between 2014 and 2019 I would visit 2 to 4 times a year with durations of 2 to 6 days at a time. I could live with 150/60 but 100/30 is prohibitive especially as one of the attractions for me would be to have 2, 3 or even 4 girls at a time. At E50 a pop you can also afford to experiment, have fluffer sessions, and write off and abort poor sessions etc but when I add costs of airline and hotel, I can get more pussy for the total cost staying in Dubai or London (even if E100 for 30 mins is still generally cheaper than equivalent girls in Dubai).
Unless things improve either by 30 min sessions coming down to a reasonable 70 euros or the new normal ensures good service unless you're unlucky and you actually get the full time then I can't see myself specifically travelling for a Frankfurt sex tour. I will still visit as I love the FKK scene and vibe but I think it's more likely to be a stopover trip in Frankfurt for 2-3 days when travelling between London and Dubai so I'm not paying extra for flights like I did earlier this year when I chose to have 2 days in Zurich on my way back to Dubai to sample the sex scene in Zurich.[/QUOTE]Do You know Germany is not only Hessen? Did You ever hear about NRW, also 6 ens stuck to Aachen. Even I really enjoyed my chic elegant new German at Sharks whose GFE and chic look worth 200/60 for me, but can still find many girls out of Hessen for between 40 and 65 per 30 . On Friday evening, saw best casting of the year at Freubad. Ch, far higher looks than at Globe or Sharks or Wellcum, and You have package 249 for entry, foods, drinks, wellness and 1 hour sex. Just open eyes rather than being stuck to average. London is magic city, but I won t go for paid sex, when I m fully sure Germany or Freubad remain a better game. I would go to London to fuck a real english woman when they are crazy about french.
[QUOTE=Ballsout69;2763629]Can anyone tell me if any of the girls play with a female that I bring to the club? My wife really likes girls so she would either want to play with one solo or with me as part of a three some. Any input?[/QUOTE]I have never seen a couple in Sharks, I don't think that it's forbidden but it could be a little weird. In smaller clubs it's more frequent, I have seen it in Finca and Babylon.
I imagine that all the girls that do threesome would be open to go with you and your wife. For your information, when the girls play with each other it's an extra, in general 50€.
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[QUOTE=BeWilder;2763748]I have not been on an FKK tour since the pandemic. .... I could live with 150/60 but 100/30 is prohibitive especially as one of the attractions for me would be to have 2, 3 or even 4 girls at a time. At E50 a pop you can also afford to experiment, have fluffer sessions, and write off and abort poor sessions etc
Unless things improve either by 30 min sessions coming down to a reasonable 70 euros or the new normal ensures good service unless you're unlucky and you actually get the full time then I can't see myself specifically travelling for a Frankfurt sex tour.[/QUOTE]One of the biggest challenges with ISG is too many seniors writing multiple reports in 2022 without having had their feet on the ground since before the pandemic, and at the same time lacking a critical view on reports of today. Try reading local forums, or visit yourself (!), and you will have a much better understanding of the scene.
- You can live with 150 E /60? Guess what, that is still the going rate among the best girls in Frankfurt despite reports by guys paying 200 E /60 or more. Although not common, 100 E /60 is STILL possible among some of the best girls. If you know the girls a bit.
- 100 E /30 is suddenly too much? Where have you been since 2017? You must have noted that good sessions for 50 E become increasingly difficult in the last 5 years (if not earlier). While I agree it was possible to get 50 E sessions in 2018- 20, the reports of shortchange of time or lack of performance in such sessions were numerous. In 2017 many Frankfurt girls started quoting 100 E /30 or 150/60 for GFE sessions, and it has now become going rates.
- If you are willing to rent a car and go to Giessen (45 mnts) or the NRW (1- 2 hrs), there are plenty of clubs with girls providing good sessions from 40- 60 E. Still. Big mistake to think that only Palace and Sharks have goodlooking girls. I also happen to believe that too few gents are trying to counteroffer 70- 80E (or ask for a genuine extra) when quoted 100E/30 by the girls at Palace/Sharks.
Cheers,
- S16.
[QUOTE=Shark16;2763802]One of the biggest challenges with ISG is too many seniors writing multiple reports in 2022 without having had their feet on the ground since before the pandemic, and at the same time lacking a critical view on reports of today. Try reading local forums, or visit yourself (!), and you will have a much better understanding of the scene.
- You can live with 150 E /60? Guess what, that is still the going rate among the best girls in Frankfurt despite reports by guys paying 200 E /60 or more. Although not common, 100 E /60 is STILL possible among some of the best girls. If you know the girls a bit.
- 100 E /30 is suddenly too much? Where have you been since 2017? You must have noted that good sessions for 50 E become increasingly difficult in the last 5 years (if not earlier). While I agree it was possible to get 50 E sessions in 2018- 20, the reports of shortchange of time or lack of performance in such sessions were numerous. In 2017 many Frankfurt girls started quoting 100 E /30 or 150/60 for GFE sessions, and it has now become going rates..[/QUOTE]I'm surprised many Germans pay so expensive asked for lower looks and quality now. On 2021, I got more than 10 good GFE rooms for 100/60 even with Daisi. De who was not my best at Sharks 2021. Except very few girls, real fall for quality on 2022, even Sofi. De was good, when coming from Rhur escorting, and wow German discovery on my last visit, when I love chic and elegance for GFE. I agree for better values for quality than Sharks in Germany on 2022.
[QUOTE=Ballsout69;2763629]Can anyone tell me if any of the girls play with a female that I bring to the club? My wife really likes girls so she would either want to play with one solo or with me as part of a three some. Any input?[/QUOTE]The Sharks website has an FAQ section which unless google translate is playing up suggests it isn't possible, below is what it says.
I would like to come to FKK Sharks with my wife or girlfriend and rejuvenate our love life. Is that possible?
No, unfortunately not. The ladies in Germany's largest naturist club are exclusively self-employed, commercial entrepreneurs who. Independent of FKK Sharks. Offer their services there.
[QUOTE=Saturn11;2763892]The Sharks website has an FAQ section which unless google translate is playing up suggests it isn't possible, below is what it says.
I would like to come to FKK Sharks with my wife or girlfriend and rejuvenate our love life. Is that possible?
No, unfortunately not. The ladies in Germany's largest naturist club are exclusively self-employed, commercial entrepreneurs who. Independent of FKK Sharks. Offer their services there.[/QUOTE]I remember I saw, I think on 2015/2016 in garden with Dina. Hu, a guy and a woman as guests. When Sharks don t seem so full, call desk to ask. I also saw many times at World.
[QUOTE=Saturn11;2763892]The Sharks website has an FAQ section which unless google translate is playing up suggests it isn't possible, below is what it says.
I would like to come to FKK Sharks with my wife or girlfriend and rejuvenate our love life. Is that possible?
No, unfortunately not. The ladies in Germany's largest naturist club are exclusively self-employed, commercial entrepreneurs who. Independent of FKK Sharks. Offer their services there.[/QUOTE]Yes, they have clearly stated in website that wife or girlfriend is not welcome. The girls working in the club has to be independent. I have personally never seen a couple in Sharks.
I have seen couples in Sharks in the past.
Call the reception, phone number is on the website.
[QUOTE=Ballsout69;2763629]Can anyone tell me if any of the girls play with a female that I bring to the club? My wife really likes girls so she would either want to play with one solo or with me as part of a three some. Any input?[/QUOTE]I was in Sharks today and I asked the receptionist: a definitive no, a woman can't enter as a customer.
[QUOTE=Hyperion2007;2764785]I was in Sharks today and I asked the receptionist: a definitive no, a woman can't enter as a customer.[/QUOTE]Technically, yes, they can enter!
But you have to understand that if they want to come as a customer, they will have to pay the cover and register with the German gov't as a sex worker.
To give some needed information to this Sharks thread -.
In 2017 the German gov't passed the "Gummi Law", which created regulations for the sex workers:
1. Any sex worker who works in a sauna club or brothel has to register with the Gov't (for taxation purposes), so the clubs won't let you in unless you show your papers.
2. Any sexual activity requires the use of a condom. That's why it has the unofficial name "Gummi Law", this drives up prices because now BBBJ is considered illegal and a added / extra service.
3. Eliminated price controls and regulated working environments for the girls. Ex.
A. the clubs can't set a price for sex, now they only tell the girls that they "recommend" a basic price of 40 E, 50 E or 100 E, but it's only a recommendation.
Be. The clubs can't force girls to go completely nude, there are actually offices (filled with feminists) that will coach the girls that they don't have to be naked, can charge whatever they want, etc, etc.
Now, what did this do to the sauna club scene?
Well, to be honest many of the issues started when Romania entered the EU in 2008, the Romanian girls including the area of Romania that is Bulgarian brought all the low quality, bad attitude, snippy little bitches into the clubs and started pushing out the German, Polish and Czech girls as they and their pimps created an adversarial environment that was controlled more by the Eastern European pimps. Slowly the German girls left for greener pastures. The "straw that broke the camels back" was the 2017 law, because now the German, Polish, Czech, etc girls who came to the sauna clubs for extra cash for college or bills, now had to register and most respectable girls won't do that.
This ended up eliminating supply, so what you have left a couple of years later (2022) are lower quality, hardened professionals who can charge more for less service because the supply has been slowly diminished over the course of 10 years.
I read that the German gov't has to revisit this 2017 law in 2023 or maybe it expires and has to be renewed (not really sure which one) from what I remember reading, but maybe they will see it didn't have any beneficial outcome and eliminate it or now renew it. But I'm not going to hold my breath. Sadly all good things come to an end.
[QUOTE=Ballsout69;2763629]Can anyone tell me if any of the girls play with a female that I bring to the club? My wife really likes girls so she would either want to play with one solo or with me as part of a three some. Any input?[/QUOTE]Call FKK World north Frankfurt, if Sharks don t accept anymore.
[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2764816]Technically, yes, they can enter!
But you have to understand that if they want to come as a customer, they will have to pay the cover and register with the German gov't as a sex worker.
To give some needed information to this Sharks thread -.
In 2017 the German gov't passed the "Gummi Law", which created regulations for the sex workers:
1. Any sex worker who works in a sauna club or brothel has to register with the Gov't (for taxation purposes), so the clubs won't let you in unless you show your papers.
2. Any sexual activity requires the use of a condom. That's why it has the unofficial name "Gummi Law", this drives up prices because now BBBJ is considered illegal and a added / extra service.
3. Eliminated price controls and regulated working environments for the girls. Ex.
A. the clubs can't set a price for sex, now they only tell the girls that they "recommend" a basic price of 40 E, 50 E or 100 E, but it's only a recommendation.
Be. The clubs can't force girls to go completely nude, there are actually offices (filled with feminists) that will coach the girls that they don't have to be naked, can charge whatever they want, etc, etc.
Now, what did this do to the sauna club scene?
Well, to be honest many of the issues started when Romania entered the EU in 2008, the Romanian girls including the area of Romania that is Bulgarian brought all the low quality, bad attitude, snippy little bitches into the clubs and started pushing out the German, Polish and Czech girls as they and their pimps created an adversarial environment that was controlled more by the Eastern European pimps. Slowly the German girls left for greener pastures. The "straw that broke the camels back" was the 2017 law, because now the German, Polish, Czech, etc girls who came to the sauna clubs for extra cash for college or bills, now had to register and most respectable girls won't do that.
This ended up eliminating supply, so what you have left a couple of years later (2022) are lower quality, hardened professionals who can charge more for less service because the supply has been slowly diminished over the course of 10 years.
I read that the German gov't has to revisit this 2017 law in 2023 or maybe it expires and has to be renewed (not really sure which one) from what I remember reading, but maybe they will see it didn't have any beneficial outcome and eliminate it or now renew it. But I'm not going to hold my breath. Sadly all good things come to an end.[/QUOTE]I like Romanian girls but when German, Polish, Czech etc. girls were in abundance was much better.