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[QUOTE=Goferring;2689844]By that do you mean a private agreement for a bargirl to meet after work?

Sounds like $4 well invested 👍.[/QUOTE]Yes, but bought her an LD, so bar got its fair share. Sneakouts are fairly easy to arrange if you do it discreetly. Have also paid a crazy BF in a WS bar where I knew mama from before and wanted to preserve everybody's face. She gave me a girl exactly tailored to my needs though.

[QUOTE=PuteNut;2689834]Thanks, any intel on current going rates there? I'd assume 1000 LT is not a common opening offer there?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PuteNut;2689840]so I tipped a generous 200 to 1700 total, so overpaying a bit perhaps. But feels like it's appropriate to get a little cash flowing here.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goferring;2689844]By that do you mean a private agreement for a bargirl to meet after work? Sounds like $4 well invested 👍.[/QUOTE]Best couple of clams you can spend. PN, I will PM you.

So with drinks and tips, p2000. These days, that is neither overpaying or underpaying. The entire economic system (s), world-wide, are in a real state of flux. Inflation runs rampant. Supply chain issues. And so on. P1000 is fine, and p5000 is fine (for now, considering the flux). I don't see any consensus on a going rate at this time (holy moly, I didn't really see one before the pandemic, I just saw various guys saying what they paid at the time, there was variety). Don't feel a need to compare your prices to others.

For outsiders, don't worry about a 'going rate' yet. Next year maybe. With restrictions loosening (but ever-changing), be happy if you end up in-country. If money is an issue for you, get laid once a week less (get a massage instead). Keep posting FR's.

BTW, what are the massage rates in AC? Regular massage (no extras)? In Manila, once the massage places re-opened during Covid, the rates jumped from the previous p500 to P900-ish (in the province, pre-covid was p300, then later after re-opening the rates doubled to p600), then I saw some later for p600. In AC?

[QUOTE=Goferring;2689822]Following.

AQUA at the top of the ABC is a freelancer bar. It's a nice place but not a disco if that's what you are looking for.[/QUOTE]Thanks I've tried ABC pool and Skytrax, but not quite the same. I used to enjoy the ambiance at Hi So, and especially the freedom of choice. I heard about Mega, ill give it a try next time I'm in town. There used to be a cosy little bar in Queens Hotel too. Not sure if you could take the girls out, or if it was for guests only. Or maybe they had their own rooms there.

[QUOTE=GDreams;2689690]Pinalove, Dateinasia, Filipino cupid, tinder, tan tan, and a few others.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the input sir.

[QUOTE=PuteNut;2689840]It is. I did a 1500 LT (sneakout) yesterday but I thought it was kinda cute [/QUOTE]For any noobs out there who don't understand how this works. Its in the bar girls best interest to just go bar fine instead of "sneekout". She doesn't have to goto work you just drop by and pay the barfine. The bars will fine these girls anywhere from 10 k-20 k for meeting customers outside of work. As an experienced monger this is the safest bet imo if you care even the slightest bit about the girl, you save 1 k and she will lose 20 k kind of a dick move, in this case he gave her enough to cover the barfine. If they call the mama they usually can pay the bar fine at a later date or later on that night during a bar hop, they will also sometimes discount this kind of bar fine by 500. If I know I will be with a girl or will be going to a province or manila for the day. You could ask for the mamas number to work shit out. On occasion I've even called the mama to ask some questions. The mama-san will usually be more upfront with you than the girl will be, If the mama also knows what the contract entails she will help to honor it as well.

[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2689901]For any noobs out there who don't understand how this works. Its in the bar girls best interest to just go bar fine instead of "sneekout". The bars will fine these girls anywhere from 10 k-20 k for meeting customers outside of work. As an experienced monger this is the safest bet imo if you care even the slightest bit about the girl, you save 1 k and she will lose 20 k kind of a dick move, in this case he gave her enough to cover the barfine. [/QUOTE]Sneekouts are fine before or after her work for 30 minutes to a few hours. But not ok to take her out in public since that could get her in trouble. Also, best not to have her meet you at your hotel if the hotel is affiliated with the bar like Score Birds or near to her bar. There are some girls that will not barfine because they make so much money on drinks and guys have food delivered to the bar for them and the girl. Also, girls like to stay on Fridays and Saturdays when there is a higher chance of guys making it rain (throwing money at them). But they will meet you during non-work hours or when they run short of money and you are there to help them in their time of need thus making a Marvel super hero!

[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2689901]if you care even the slightest bit about the girl, you save 1 k and she will lose 20 k kind of a dick move,[/QUOTE]Care about the girl? As a monger you know nothing about the girl. You just want to fuck the girl. If she knows that she will lose 20K and she takes that risk, I do not understand how that is a dick move on the monger's part.

Part of the reason men are traveling across the world to fuck foreign chicks is because these same men have fucked up home by placing no responsibility on women. And we have the same bad habits creeping into the getaways. She is not a baby. If she chooses to sneak out and knows the consequences then she is fully responsible, not the dude in town for a couple of days to score some pussy.

Anything goes wrong (shit gets stolen, chick is a runner, he does not get what he bargained for, chick gets pregnant) in these threads, people always blame the monger. He should have known better and done better. Sure; let's continue to absolve women of any responsibility for the decisions they make.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2689919]Care about the girl? As a monger you know nothing about the girl. You just want to fuck the girl. If she knows that she will lose 20K and she takes that risk, I do not understand how that is a dick move on the monger's part.
[/QUOTE]The times when guys meet the girls outside are rarely just for sex. It would be a dick move if she presented some reservations and the monger intimated that it was ok that no one would find out as some of these girls do make the mistake a time or 2 before they learn better. The men should be able to count to 100 and read a write the same cannot be said for these bar girls, so the onus of responsibility would lay mostly on the monger, unless your monger was illiterate then we got a stalemate. I agree with you that it is also the girls responsibility however some of these guys have no idea there are consequences for what the girls do away from the bars. The times when guys meet the girls outside the bar are oftentimes to meet the family or a day trip and a measure of good will which is a carrot on a stick, Noobs are unsure of the reason for the girls hesitancy and the explanation of said fine helps to clarify the reason.

There is not a prostitute the world over that would undersell herself so the only thousand pesos girls one might find is a homeless crackhead with only one tooth in their mouth.

Older fat girls with well below average looks are demanding 3,000 pesos short time one pop.

Slightly less fat older girls are demanding 4,000 pesos short time one pop.

Although almost impossible to find if one is lucky enough to find a mid-20's girl that is not fat and with just okay looks then expect the princess to be demanding in excessive 5,000 pesos short time one pop.

Welcome to the new Angeles city.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2689919]
Anything goes wrong (shit gets stolen, chick is a runner, he does not get what he bargained for, chick gets pregnant) in these threads, people always blame the monger. He should have known better and done better. Sure; let's continue to absolve women of any responsibility for the decisions they make.[/QUOTE]I don't believe this to be true.

[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2689929]The times when guys meet the girls outside are rarely just for sex. It would be a dick move if she presented some reservations and the monger intimated that it was ok[/QUOTE]I agree to not trying to fuck someone over, but you did not present that in the first scenario. You only said to pay the bar fine so the chick does not get in trouble. But if someone plans to intentionally fuck someone over, then I am afraid telling them to pay the barfine before they do it is going to fall on deaf ears. That is like telling a liar to be honest or a thief not to steal.

The-Cups: Clear your inbox please.

[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2689929]The times when guys meet the girls outside are rarely just for sex. [/QUOTE]Huuuh?? Forget about the bar. The only reason I set foot in AC is for the freely available sex. If I meet a prostitute in a bar and organise for her to come to my hotel room, of course it is just for the sex. She understands this and isn't expecting to be there to measure for new curtains or provide emotional fulfillment.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2689901]For any noobs out there who don't understand how this works. Its in the bar girls best interest to just go bar fine instead of "sneekout". She doesn't have to goto work you just drop by and pay the barfine. The bars will fine these girls anywhere from 10 k-20 k for meeting customers outside of work.[/QUOTE]Yeah right, and cute concern for the girls' financials right there. Any guess how many % would reciprocate and give an actual bleep about you? Done discreetly, the risk is very low for any problem arising. The days of "blacklisting" are long gone, it's girl power now. Or rather MILF power, perhaps.

[QUOTE=PuteNut;2690094]....Done discreetly, the risk is very low for any problem arising. The days of "blacklisting" are long gone, it's girl power now. Or rather MILF power, perhaps.[/QUOTE]Everytime I've taken a girl out of the bar circuit (admittedly normally for days not just one night) she just tells them she is going home. If that's obviously BS, then she pays a tax to the mamasan and and then she, the mama, covers for her.

This is all the girls problem. I don't get involved at all.