FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2764816]Technically, yes, they can enter!

But you have to understand that if they want to come as a customer, they will have to pay the cover and register with the German gov't as a sex worker.

To give some needed information to this Sharks thread -.

In 2017 the German gov't passed the "Gummi Law", which created regulations for the sex workers:

1. Any sex worker who works in a sauna club or brothel has to register with the Gov't (for taxation purposes), so the clubs won't let you in unless you show your papers.

2. Any sexual activity requires the use of a condom. That's why it has the unofficial name "Gummi Law", this drives up prices because now BBBJ is considered illegal and a added / extra service.

3. Eliminated price controls and regulated working environments for the girls. Ex.

A. the clubs can't set a price for sex, now they only tell the girls that they "recommend" a basic price of 40 E, 50 E or 100 E, but it's only a recommendation.

Be. The clubs can't force girls to go completely nude, there are actually offices (filled with feminists) that will coach the girls that they don't have to be naked, can charge whatever they want, etc, etc.

Now, what did this do to the sauna club scene?

Well, to be honest many of the issues started when Romania entered the EU in 2008, the Romanian girls including the area of Romania that is Bulgarian brought all the low quality, bad attitude, snippy little bitches into the clubs and started pushing out the German, Polish and Czech girls as they and their pimps created an adversarial environment that was controlled more by the Eastern European pimps. Slowly the German girls left for greener pastures. The "straw that broke the camels back" was the 2017 law, because now the German, Polish, Czech, etc girls who came to the sauna clubs for extra cash for college or bills, now had to register and most respectable girls won't do that.

This ended up eliminating supply, so what you have left a couple of years later (2022) are lower quality, hardened professionals who can charge more for less service because the supply has been slowly diminished over the course of 10 years.

I read that the German gov't has to revisit this 2017 law in 2023 or maybe it expires and has to be renewed (not really sure which one) from what I remember reading, but maybe they will see it didn't have any beneficial outcome and eliminate it or now renew it. But I'm not going to hold my breath. Sadly all good things come to an end.[/QUOTE]After reading your post it feels like, I missed the golden years of mongering at FKK Clubs. I have been active since few years. I've always seen German, Polish or Czech girls in minority. Personally I get more interested in girls if they come from one of these countries. Earlier I thought, reason for that might be, they are not available in abundance.

But I must say, some of them have provided best service, I have had in my mongering career. And of course they look quite hot and different than romanian girls. Not to say, some of romanian girls are also damn beautiful. But when it comes to service they are not all the same.

Some romanian girls are well mannered and polite and deliver super service, whereas many of them are a rip off. They team up with other girls, and their sole goal is to get money out of customer without doing anything. Some of them doesn't really know how to behave with a customer. They bully and shout at customer. I have witnessed it at Sharks. Not sure if they are from particular region in Romania. This behaviour from a group bad girls, damages whole community coming from that country.

[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2766663]I would say on the days I visited Sharks, amongst all the other clubs I visited, 1/3 of my sessions I had at Sharks were 430 w / BBBJ + CFS.[/QUOTE]The best thing to do is to name those girls so they are rewarded with more customers!

[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2766663]I was at Sharks mid October and mid November and if you arrive early in the day (2-4 PM) there are lots of girls that will charge 50430 for BBBJ and CFS, you will just have to ask around.

Disclaimer. As the hours pass and the evening girls arrive with men getting off work and the club getting busier, it will be harder to find 430 sessions as demand increases.

I would say on the days I visited Sharks, amongst all the other clubs I visited, 1/3 of my sessions I had at Sharks were 430 w / BBBJ + CFS.[/QUOTE]On this Saturday, from 4 pm to 3 am, slow business, many girls without business, but I didn't see many I would spend 50 for. When I find a beauty like Kity, 0 GFE, low level for sex, I could fuck her whole night, I would never finish.

I was in shakers in September (I have a full review that I wrote here after the trip).

I ask them nicely for 50 eru, and they told me it's will be 15 min, and I agree, but not all of them agreed to 50 eru.

We need to stand up hard against raising prices and not pay this amount of money.

Even ugly fat girls asking for 100 eru, wtf!?

We should not give a hand to that! Stop paying 100 eru and get shit.

The red light district in Frankfurt has hot girls asking for 30 eru.

Today in FKK the Norma is 50 for 10 min LOL.

I miss the time before corona and before 2017 when the girls asked 50 for a full 30 min and they were hot.

Please don't give a hand for it, let's change it, we have the power!

[QUOTE=WaterMeltingg;2766779]After reading your post it feels like, I missed the golden years of mongering at FKK Clubs. I have been active since few years. I've always seen German, Polish or Czech girls in minority. Personally I get more interested in girls if they come from one of these countries. Earlier I thought, reason for that might be, they are not available in abundance.[/QUOTE]As a general rule what I've seen, is the more a country becomes developed, the less WGs are available from said country.

I would also agree with your assessment that I've had excellent service from Germans, while Romanians / Moldavians / eastern European can be hit or miss. And I do believe I missed the golden years as well where there were more polish, Czech, etc. around and for get cheaper prices.

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2767164]As a general rule what I've seen, is the more a country becomes developed, the less WGs are available from said country.

I would also agree with your assessment that I've had excellent service from Germans, while Romanians / Moldavians / eastern European can be hit or miss. And I do believe I missed the golden years as well where there were more polish, Czech, etc. around and for get cheaper prices.[/QUOTE]5 Germans on not finished yet 2022 for me. 2 really top level. 0 with silicon.

Amir your majesty, thank you for the post. I can add this: most young turkish boys in Samya pay girls only 50 or don't go. Yes, 10-20 minutes is the time expected on both sides of the transaction. The girls go with them without much dispute, (a) because the boys are regulars or semi-regulars and (b) because on slow nights (no messe, no tourists) they are the customer majority and (c) room straightforwardness CBJ suck and fuck in a couple of positions. May not be kind of service for everyone, but my respect to young guys in Samya. They already doing firmly what you are addressing here.

[QUOTE=KingAmir;2767102]I was in shakers in September (I have a full review that I wrote here after the trip).

I ask them nicely for 50 eru, and they told me it's will be 15 min, and I agree, but not all of them agreed to 50 eru.

We need to stand up hard against raising prices and not pay this amount of money.

Even ugly fat girls asking for 100 eru, wtf!?

We should not give a hand to that! Stop paying 100 eru and get shit.

The red light district in Frankfurt has hot girls asking for 30 eru.

Today in FKK the Norma is 50 for 10 min LOL.

I miss the time before corona and before 2017 when the girls asked 50 for a full 30 min and they were hot.

Please don't give a hand for it, let's change it, we have the power![/QUOTE]I wish this was true, but ultimately I think this would be bad advise to anyone who wants to visit sharks for the first time or anyone who has not been since reopening. The simple fact of the matter is that 100 EUR for 30 with BBJ is now the new price floor, and that dynamics of this tourist club in particular is not conducive for negotiation below that. Most the of the attractive women have plenty of customers waiting for them at this price on any given day and it would be a real buzz kill to spend the day hunting down and attempting to undercut their expected price, all for a 15 minute quickie if that was even possible. More likely, this tactic would be a sure fire way for word about you to spread around the club and you will all of a sudden find yourself being ignored. I don't mean to paint a bleak picture. Sharks still has its merits as a super club with good facilities and plenty of women, which is relatively unmatched across EU at the moment. But, I don't think we should set expectations that much fun will be had if you are on a budget below 100 EUR per session. Now, if you are willing to shell out 150 EUR for per session then I think Sharks is just as fun it was in its hay day and still competes for best venue world-wide.

[QUOTE=FakeIt;2767238]More likely, this tactic would be a sure fire way for word about you to spread around the club and you will all of a sudden find yourself being ignored.[/QUOTE]And more importantly, it will result in precisely what he had: bad rooms with bored women who accepted to go only for him to stop bothering them.

The funniest is that he paid 50€ for 15 minutes rooms with no blowjob. And some praised him when he posted it's report in September, hilarious.

[QUOTE=FakeIt;2767238]I wish this was true, but ultimately I think this would be bad advise to anyone who wants to visit sharks for the first time or anyone who has not been since reopening. The simple fact of the matter is that 100 EUR for 30 with BBJ is now the new price floor, and that dynamics of this tourist club in particular is not conducive for negotiation below that. Most the of the attractive women have plenty of customers waiting for them at this price on any given day and it would be a real buzz kill to spend the day hunting down and attempting to undercut their expected price, all for a 15 minute quickie if that was even possible. More likely, this tactic would be a sure fire way for word about you to spread around the club and you will all of a sudden find yourself being ignored. I don't mean to paint a bleak picture. Sharks still has its merits as a super club with good facilities and plenty of women, which is relatively unmatched across EU at the moment. But, I don't think we should set expectations that much fun will be had if you are on a budget below 100 EUR per session. Now, if you are willing to shell out 150 EUR for per session then I think Sharks is just as fun it was in its hay day and still competes for best venue world-wide.[/QUOTE]Sharks is really not at best for looks with only very few pretties: Kity, Katalea, Teodora, and most not even french kissing for 100/30 . My advice: don t pay extra for FK when You will receive little girl kisses. Bad value for most girls. Better value elsewhere in Germany in NRW or 6 ens stuck to Aachen. On last Saturday, I witnessed slow business and pretties really not busy, one needing to hunt now. But hot water was working.

[QUOTE=FakeIt;2767238]I wish this was true, but ultimately I think this would be bad advise to anyone who wants to visit sharks for the first time or anyone who has not been since reopening. The simple fact of the matter is that 100 EUR for 30 with BBJ is now the new price floor, and that dynamics of this tourist club in particular is not conducive for negotiation below that. Most the of the attractive women have plenty of customers waiting for them at this price on any given day and it would be a real buzz kill to spend the day hunting down and attempting to undercut their expected price, all for a 15 minute quickie if that was even possible. More likely, this tactic would be a sure fire way for word about you to spread around the club and you will all of a sudden find yourself being ignored. I don't mean to paint a bleak picture. Sharks still has its merits as a super club with good facilities and plenty of women, which is relatively unmatched across EU at the moment. But, I don't think we should set expectations that much fun will be had if you are on a budget below 100 EUR per session. Now, if you are willing to shell out 150 EUR for per session then I think Sharks is just as fun it was in its hay day and still competes for best venue world-wide.[/QUOTE]My sentiments exactly. This has been much discussed in several threads recently. As I have said before it's not unreasonable for prices to increase, let's face it 50 Eu was a steal before. A lot of contributors point out the 100% increase and I get where they are coming from, I'd agree that 70/80 for 30 minutes and 120/130 for 60 minutes would be better but we just have to either accept it or as a point of principle not even attend. But as has been said, there is more than enough customers willing to pay 100/30 to keep the girls happy. As for bartering a trade-off for time, really? Do you want to look cheap for such a small amount of money? No doubt in ten years or so time we will be having the same convos when it goes to 150/30.

I can pay 150/60 for a GFE really kissing, natural beauty, I even paid 200/60 for chic elegant who was wow in bed, I paid 200 because we don t see many like her in whole FKK land, not any at Globe where I would have paid 300/60 for lower quality. But my problem is huge increasing for rate when fall for quality, when Kity, Bibi are low level for sex and not many looks worth I pay for. Same like at Globe, more expensive for lower quality than on 2021. If I mistook Barbi with Bibi, my big apologize to Barbi, when I was meaning Bibi who wanted 200/60 but not able to kiss. Only Sofi. De and chic elegant German worthing to repeat on this year. No repeat at Globe among 6/7 girls, when I repeated many times at Freubad with 3, my best club on 2022.

[QUOTE=Hyperion2007;2767253] More importantly, it will result in what he had: bad rooms with bored women who accepted to go only for him to stop bothering them.

The funniest is that he paid 50 for 15 minutes rooms with no blowjob. And some praised him when he posted its report in September, hilarious.[/QUOTE]I do not get enjoy blowjobs anyway.

For me, 15 min was ok and enough, maybe other people need more time and it's fine.

I fucked hot girls for 50, and they didn't try to hurry me to finish, but only 2 girls were a real fail, but Attitude does not matter if it is 50 or 100.

I probably won't go there anymore because it's a little hard to convince the girls to 50, it was an experience, but it's a shame it's not like before the Corona and before 2017.

[QUOTE=KingAmir;2767596]I do not get enjoy blowjobs anyway.

For me, 15 min was ok and enough, maybe other people need more time and it's fine.

I fucked hot girls for 50, and they didn't try to hurry me to finish, but only 2 girls were a real fail, but Attitude does not matter if it is 50 or 100.

I probably won't go there anymore because it's a little hard to convince the girls to 50, it was an experience, but it's a shame it's not like before the Corona and before 2017.[/QUOTE]I was told about this on last night, Turkish asking for 50/10 when they don t need more than 10 minutes, fucking hard to finish fast according to culture. Other funny stories, each one own tastes for sex. After chic elegant German, maybe she didn t like Sharks business when not seen anymore and nobody seem to know her, after my run from NL border, I preferred french quality girl, what a natural beauty with no tattoo, pear shape naturals, for my short visit wishing to find her. Just perfect when I prefer quality, for 200/60 when none on her level at Globe. Same like for chic German, I just wish I can repeat such rare look and quality. If Sharks girls quality is very average for me on average on 2022 , and again not high busy business for second Saturday evening, many girls waiting for business, but at least I could find 3 high level girls with Sofi coming from Rhur escorting, but chic elegant is prettier and deeper GFE and french is much prettier and fresh in mind. For high level sex, I advice Sena also full natural and she is now my friend forever. Zoe. De moved from NRW. Hotel Contel is open. After Goldengate I really like but only around 10 girls on a Saturday until 6. 30 pm, when forrest call wolves, autobahns called me and all went perfect on this short visit arriving at 9. 30 pm, quality with pastas and even melon and strawberries cake. 265 .

[QUOTE=KingAmir;2767102]I was in shakers in September (I have a full review that I wrote here after the trip).

I ask them nicely for 50 eru, and they told me it's will be 15 min, and I agree, but not all of them agreed to 50 eru.

We need to stand up hard against raising prices and not pay this amount of money.

Even ugly fat girls asking for 100 eru, wtf!?

We should not give a hand to that! Stop paying 100 eru and get shit.

The red light district in Frankfurt has hot girls asking for 30 eru.

Today in FKK the Norma is 50 for 10 min LOL.

I miss the time before corona and before 2017 when the girls asked 50 for a full 30 min and they were hot.

Please don't give a hand for it, let's change it, we have the power![/QUOTE]Most of the girls in sharks are not worth 100 Euros, what they are currently demanding. Problem is not everyone negotiates hard with girls. They always find a few clients, who would pay them higher prices. If we all mongers draw a hard line on 50 Euros, prices would definitely come down. But that seems impossible.

BTW if you just want to have a quick fun in 50 Euros. RLD is also an option. They offer 20 min of fun. Some of the girls provide decent service in that price range. Again it's a hit or miss. You can also save on entry fees of club. Of course, the ambience is not the same and you can't pick girls while sitting on the couch and enjoying a beer. Sometimes I prefer going to FKK clubs, just for eating and watching naked beauties. I will take sauna 3 or 4 times. And some beers. Girls are pissed off with this kind of guests, who don't go to room at all. Who cares.