Angeles City

I need to take some time to report on my stay in AC. I ended up staying a full month. Loved it, but I was tapped out. Glad to be home but the itch to return will be back soon.

Women and distances, locations: they're mostly all the same. I was once on a jury where we spent 2 days listening to teenage girls try to estimate simple distances and measurements. It was comical, insane. Zero ability to do it even in the most basic terms. For years, I've always wondered why even my most educated and sophisticated female friends get a blank look when you say 'It's one and a half miles southeast'. The older I get the more I realize everything comes back to evolutionary psychology. Historically men had to travel, leave the tribe, hunt, and be able to return, for survival. The women stayed at home base and took care of the needs there. Cut to hundreds of thousands of years in the future, and this is what we've got. Nature is undefeated.

[QUOTE=AsianPursuits;2690846]Yep, Australia is the same. [/QUOTE]I'm showing my age but there was a time when Perth was "9 cans" (of beer) away from Port Headland. 😜.

[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2690910]I need to take some time to report on my stay in AC. I ended up staying a full month. Loved it, but I was tapped out. Glad to be home but the itch to return will be back soon.

Women and distances, locations: they're mostly all the same. I was once on a jury where we spent 2 days listening to teenage girls try to estimate simple distances and measurements. It was comical, insane. Zero ability to do it even in the most basic terms. For years, I've always wondered why even my most educated and sophisticated female friends get a blank look when you say 'It's one and a half miles southeast'. The older I get the more I realize everything comes back to evolutionary psychology. Historically men had to travel, leave the tribe, hunt, and be able to return, for survival. The women stayed at home base and took care of the needs there. Cut to hundreds of thousands of years in the future, and this is what we've got. Nature is undefeated.[/QUOTE]The result of your survey could well bee correct. LOL. But chances a high the result ist what you wanted to see in the first place as a outcome. Same procedure with boys and the same two groups in your home country could make you cry. Some will fail with the term southeast at first and second thy probably do not know the experience of walking that distance. LOL and Cry.

[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2690910]I need to take some time to report on my stay in AC. I ended up staying a full month. Loved it, but I was tapped out. Glad to be home but the itch to return will be back soon.

Women and distances, locations: they're mostly all the same. I was once on a jury where we spent 2 days listening to teenage girls try to estimate simple distances and measurements. It was comical, insane. Zero ability to do it even in the most basic terms. For years, I've always wondered why even my most educated and sophisticated female friends get a blank look when you say 'It's one and a half miles southeast'. The older I get the more I realize everything comes back to evolutionary psychology. Historically men had to travel, leave the tribe, hunt, and be able to return, for survival. The women stayed at home base and took care of the needs there. Cut to hundreds of thousands of years in the future, and this is what we've got. Nature is undefeated.[/QUOTE]I run into the same bad system of giving directions from both men and women. More from the ladies. Men are more likely to have had access to driving a bike or motorcycle, and are more knowledgeable on going someplace. But they are just as bad at distances, directions (north, south), and time it takes to get there. They speak in short phrases or a word or two at at time. Example, I asked a guy how to get to the Courthouse:

"Its there", (pointing with his hand south-east). What street to do I take to go there? "This one" (pointing south on the street where we were standing). When do I turn east? What street? "I do not know". I see, and how far will I travel on this street before I will turn east? "I do not know". Does this street curve to the east? "No". Once I turn left, how far will I travel to get to the Courthouse? "I do not know".

Switching the conversation to Spanish, in hopes of more information, got little better results. His first response was: "Es de esa manera" (its over there, pointing again south-east). All of his replies, even in the language he grew up with, were short phrases, or "No se" (I don't know). OTOH, when talking about breakfast, he joyfully rattled on about how he finds chorizo to be a bit too spicy when his wife mixed it with eggs.

Driving a vehicle forces people to become better at giving directions. My aunt never drove. She could give directions to anywhere within a few blocks of her home, but she was worthless at giving directions past that, even to places she's visited many times. Asking her directions to her doctor's office (far away) in order to drive her there, she had me call her son (who drove her in the past) to get directions. From him: First street 2 miles, turn north on second street. Second street 4 miles, turn south onto the highway. Highway 2 miles to Xxxxx St off-ramp. Doctor's office on the right hand side of Xxxxx street. If my aunt had only said to take the highway to Xxxxx street, that would have been the bomb, but she didn't have that knowledge.

You see a vast difference in cultures in terms of time (spanish time vs gringo time), distance (exact locations for westerners), and directions (right, left, north, south). None of those things are of much importance in poor countries. I double-dated some years back, me and my girl went out for drinks with a buddy and his girl. After a discussion like this with my buddy, he turned to the two silent girls and asked: What do you think of this? Without missing beat my pinay said: "These are a rich man's problems. Not mine".

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2690610]This is not her fault. Western cultures teach geography and map-reading (distances, directions) in school. None of my regulars has ever encountered this kind of thing. They also don't drive vehicles, and are not aware of street signs and directions. Their geography is based on landmarks. [/QUOTE]I think there's a dynamic even bigger than the absence of geography being taught in schools. There's an old guy named James C. Scott who spent much of his life studying "peasant resistance" in Southeast Asia. He talks about how as countries "develop" their rulers try to impose "legibility" on their people. Legibility includes things like standards of measurement (which are needed to carry on markets); planning, labeling, and numbering of road systems; government subdivisions; standards around the processing of foods for market; and even standard languages.

But people don't want to be controlled, they don't want to change their own local practices and terminology, and so they resist. Indigenous groups in the Philippines, for example, Igorots, Bukidnon, Bontoc, Aeta, Badjao, and many others--resist being assimilated in various ways. If they get pressured to conform, they just retreat into the mountains or remote islands. Many Filipinos outside Tagalog-speaking central Luzon resist having to learn the national language, Filipino, which is based primarily on Tagalog. If they can't use Cebuano / Bisaya, for example, they would often rather use English. The rural provincial areas of the Philippines carry on many resistant local practices. That resistance isn't lost when the individual from the provinces moves to Manila in search of fortune. Resisting learning about legible road systems and directions may be a part of this dynamic.

The resistance dynamics are nothing recent. Remember, when the Spanish conquered these 7,100 islands the islands did not have a common name, language, ethnicity, or religion. The Spanish just decided to call the islands a single country, named it after their King, and imposed their own legibility and religion on it. Colonialism does that, and the colonists fight back however they can.

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Note there have been comments about a club called Mega but I have no first hand comments about it.

[/QUOTE]OK, so I've taken a quick peek into this. Had a beer (120 pesos, pretty much inline with old HiSo's 100 pre-pandemic drinks). Far from packed, crowd seemed to consist of younger cuter girl barkadas, not your typical high-mileage jolibellied GROs (although a few "body positive" young pinays were offering a free view of their generous fat deposits moving in all directions when utilizing the dancepods). The club has couple tall topline hired dancers and a B team of shorter, standard issue pinays with limited dancing skills, but at least they had bright LED lights.

Many cliques seemed to know each other from before. Noted one senior likely monger nursing his drink at a well-placed table, with no approaches going on, in fact it seemed like there was an invisible social distancing area around him. When he gave up and left, a four / five girls barkada quickly moved in and snatched up the free table.

Noticed a few more things going on, which shall remain uninterpreted for now. There are probably rewards available when you have unlocked the code. No easy peasy shopping la Insomnia/Marine (Patts, pre-pandemic) going on from what I could see.

Typical EDM dance music, very similar to what HiSo played, but this place shoots for a slightly more socyal crowd if my quick interpretion got it right, and action is much less wild (even if some erotic dancing was performed by drunk girls).

Free entrance and open until 5 am, check it out for yourself as J Tron says.

[QUOTE=PuteNut;2691333]The club has couple tall topline hired dancers and a B team of shorter, standard issue pinays ....[/QUOTE]Pole dancers? Cage dancers?

I freely admit that they are my kryptonite. I'm trying to kick the habit but I've been sober for far too long 🤣.

G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2691498]Pole dancers? Cage dancers?

.[/QUOTE]Nope, only plain vanilla dancing on the main podium / stage as far as I could see. Insomnia's pro dancers are / were oozing of sex in comparison.

[QUOTE=PuteNut;2691501]Nope, only plain vanilla dancing on the main podium / stage as far as I could see. Insomnia's pro dancers are / were oozing of sex in comparison.[/QUOTE]The one time I was there 3 weeks ago Mega Dance seemed like a regular night club with regular people going there to have fun. I didn't notice any FL. Some girls were dressed up pretty sexy with a group. Most of the groups were in the elite tables.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2691523]The one time I was there 3 weeks ago Mega Dance seemed like a regular night club with regular people going there to have fun. I didn't notice any FL. Some girls were dressed up pretty sexy with a group. Most of the groups were in the elite tables.[/QUOTE]Yes, that's another way to put it. It would even seem most of the socyal girls make sure to keep the distance to suspected mongers. It will likely not reflect well on their social score to interact.

To sum it up: this is NOT the new HiSo.

I am getting old, and the bar scene is not my thing any longer and I pretty much quit going to AC about 7 years ago. That being said, I was bored so I took a trip up to check it out and it seems business as usual. Stayed at El Vista Hotel. Very nice I would recommend it. 142 Narciso Street. Yes there are only so many bars open and very little perimeter action, but there is plenty enough to go around. Actually way more than necessary.

[QUOTE=Transporter;2691665] Actually way more than necessary.[/QUOTE]That's really in the eye of the beerholder. The quality is pretty low with many high-mileage veterans who survived both Covid and Pinatubo. Some fresher talent available in select bars with a stricter hiring policy (and better base pay). I'm not too impressed and resort chiefly to other pussy vectors. But it's fun to get out a little.

[QUOTE=PuteNut;2691669]That's really in the eye of the beerholder. The quality is pretty low with many high-mileage veterans who survived both Covid and Pinatubo....[/QUOTE]I'm not there so I don't get a vote but I'd expect the stunners to be the last to return, if at all. They would be the most likely to still be cashed up from a combination of OnlyFans and Instagram type apps and sponsors. It would need an influx of high rollers to arrive to make it worth while giving this up.

Enjoy. G.

I just got back from my trip to Angeles and here are my observations and overall experience for those on the fence whether you should make the journey or not.

In short, if you miss AC don't hesitate to go now.

I would say that about 60% of the bars have reopened. Most bars fell into two types for me. The first type was like Atlantis, with many girls who were out of work the last two years coming back. I saw many familiar faces that have been in the scene for awhile. The second type were bars that had an almost brand new line of of girls. Dragon Bar was one of those and one I frequented many days. Now there are many bars in between with a mix of new girls and veterans returning to work. Overall it was amazing how many new girls just started work. Many of the larger bars I went to, the mamasan would tell me she had over 10+ girls that just started working in the last two weeks. Many of them were 19 or 20, so they came of age during the pandemic. Do not hesitate to go, you will find a girl that fits your preferences, there are plenty of choices and even better, less competition. There were no Japanese mongers, as they can not reenter their country without quarantine. I saw a good amount of Korean mongers. It is a buyers market. I can say that I myself was the first barfine for at least 4 girls.

Now I'the like to give a moment of silence to my favorite bar Ponytails. It may no longer be with us, but from its ashes there has been a great change. Pre Pandemic, If you wanted any daytime action, you either went to Ponytails or perimeter bars. Now there is a shift in business mindset for many bars. They are opening from 10 am to 6 pm for a daytime shift. Then they have an evening shift from 6 pm to 2 am -3 am. Viking, Bacarra, Sensation, Gold Bar and Cosplay all open at 10 am and have great line ups. Now there is a bit of a downside, and it is reasonable. Many girls working during the day shift will only do short time. However the short time price is 2500. Some girls will do long time for 3500. I believe that's fair, it's not reasonable to barfine a girl at 11 am and expect her to stay til the next morning for the same price. So far I've noticed that the really hot girls will only do short time. Exceptions can be made depending on your rapport with the girl. I found a really popular one that only did short time, but after hitting it off with her during the first short time, she agreed to long time the second day. Overall there seems to be an average price of 3500 at most bars. Not that bad for inflation.

A little bit about the COVID situation. Everyone is wearing masks except in walking. SM Mall still requires masks. You will see locals wearing masks around all around town except in walking street. From my experience and what I heard most hotels will expect you to mask up as you enter and go through the lobby. I have not had any pushback for bringing girls in. I'll go into detail about this in a separate post.

[QUOTE=Sock111;2692620] Dragon Bar was one of those and one I frequented many days.[/QUOTE]Yes, Dragon actually has a half-decent line-up, but that can't be said about many bars. Dragon seems well-run and waitresses are helpful. I dated a small Dragon cutie on her day off. During dinner I asked her if she was worried being seen with me in Fields and she assured me that she had no issues at all with that. Which was QED later on as we barhopped across Fields before retreating. So the captain-save-a-ho-from-fines can quit worrying, you're just being fed BS. It's a different AC now.

Another OK-ish bar is Avalon, with decent line-up and well choreographed dancers. Well run, by an American owner.

As noted the Koreans are back, and so are their 20 P showers. There are a few Japanese mongers present too, but not many.