Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=NewbExcited;2301403]I am of Indian origin as well. I never had a problem finding a girl when I visited Bangkok and Patayya. Reading your post makes me wonder why you seem to have such a hard time. What you said about Indians may be partially true but it definitely isn't as bad as you made it sound. Wish you better luck.[/QUOTE]Perhaps it's how you look, dress, hygiene, or carry yourself. You may be going after girls out of your league. There is something for everyone. Just lower your standards a bit. And remember, in the end, it's really they choose you. Not you choose them. That's why there are excuses. As for your pics, you should edit them with those apps that photoshop to make yourself attractive. It's commonly done.

[QUOTE=CamelToePokema;2301325]
I'm also trying to deal with this conundrum and it's depressing to think that I'm having a hard time getting laid in Pattaya. Any pointers, suggestions to help me get a GFE experience would be welcome.[/QUOTE]Hey bud, I was in Pattaya in Feb for a week and kicked it with some decent chicks. Wanted to private message you and send you some Line ID's but you can't receive private messages. If you're keen, turn on private messaging under your settings tab, and I'll hook you up.

Surely you jest sir! I think you are trolling here! I have never heard such a pathetic story in my life and I have met some losers. To prove me wrong meet with a fellow board member.

[QUOTE=RedMau5;2301576]Just lower your standards a bit. And remember, in the end, it's really they choose you. Not you choose them. That's why there are excuses. [/QUOTE]Worst advice I have ever come across on this thread.

We are talking hookers in Thailand here, not Jennifer Lawrence.

[QUOTE=Siamsin;2301638]Hey bud, I was in Pattaya in Feb for a week and kicked it with some decent chicks. Wanted to private message you and send you some Line ID's but you can't receive private messages. If you're keen, turn on private messaging under your settings tab, and I'll hook you up.[/QUOTE]I am heading there over next weekend onwards. Can you please send some. PM on. Thanks.

[QUOTE=RedMau5;2301576]in the end, it's really they choose you. Not you choose them. That's why there are excuses. [/QUOTE]Are you implying if there is a 9 on stage at a gogo bar who does not look or smile at you that you are supposed to ignore her for the 5 who doesn't stop smiling or take their eyes off you?

Biggest mistake I see in Pattaya are guys who think a girl is beautiful but don't call her for a lady drink because she's not smiling at him.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2301797]Are you implying if there is a 9 on stage at a gogo bar who does not look or smile at you that you are supposed to ignore her for the 5 who doesn't stop smiling or take their eyes off you?

Biggest mistake I see in Pattaya are guys who think a girl is beautiful but don't call her for a lady drink because she's not smiling at him.[/QUOTE]I agree to this in general as don't have typical gogo experience but having experience of general Asian establishment, most of the time it is easier to ask mamamsan. In Perth had an experience with a pretty pino girl who had a reputation of hit and miss, spoke to mamasan and the service I got was nothing short of amazing. These girls can't refuse their mamasan, so once she gets involved service improves dramatically.

[QUOTE=RedMau5;2301576]Perhaps it's how you look, dress, hygiene, or carry yourself. You may be going after girls out of your league. There is something for everyone. Just lower your standards a bit. And remember, in the end, it's really they choose you. Not you choose them. That's why there are excuses. As for your pics, you should edit them with those apps that photoshop to make yourself attractive. It's commonly done.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2301764]Worst advice I have ever come across on this thread.

We are talking hookers in Thailand here, not Jennifer Lawrence.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2301797]Are you implying if there is a 9 on stage at a gogo bar who does not look or smile at you that you are supposed to ignore her for the 5 who doesn't stop smiling or take their eyes off you?

Biggest mistake I see in Pattaya are guys who think a girl is beautiful but don't call her for a lady drink because she's not smiling at him.[/QUOTE]I think that can depend on the realities regarding ethnic bias and possibly age bias in the country you're mongering in and/or the monger's sexual needs and requirements.

If you are of a more acceptable ethnic origin for the country you're in and only require the most basic level of service, i.e. covered FS but no BBBJ+CIM, no DFK and little of anything else required, then you might as well go for the best looking girl in the joint and negotiate for price only. You'll probably do ok quite often.

That probably goes for many Indians in Thailand, too. Even then, I have lived in Bangkok near Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy for over 6 years, spent many days and nights in Pattaya and I have yet to see an Indian man of any age, level of fitness and attractiveness walking hand in hand with a Thai go-go bar "9" or just walking side-by-side in such a way that it was clear they were on their way to enjoy a ST session at a hotel or apartment. Maybe not even seen one with a strong Thai go-go bar "7.5" or better. I HEAR of it happening. But have not seen it with my own eyes. And I am out and about in the go-go bar areas virtually every day and night. I have seen Indian men with very attractive Indian women. Not seen them with very attractive Thai women.

By the same token, I am not Indian. I am a 65 year old Caucasian. But I require either BBFS+CIP or BBBJ+CIM to make any go-go bargirl expenditure worth it to me. Otherwise, I will be spending 4000+ baht to engage in DATY and perhaps some pointless BBBJ as oral foreplay. Not a good idea, imo. I can not engage in sexual pleasure of any kind wearing a condom, will never finish that way.

Therefore, if I routinely focused on or approached Thai go-go bar "9"s or let's say the best looking girls in the joint who are aloof and don't even look my way with a smile, I assure you I will be spending a lot of time with extremely boring conversation, maybe even occasionally creating a rollicking good time for the girl, buying tons of Lady Drinks but ultimately hearing a lot of "NO" to both or either of my sexual requirements in the bar if I am lucky or in the room where it will have cost me a bunch more money to hear it.

Been there, done that enough times in the past and I still give it a go every now and then just to see if there are any changes in the results. There are only the most extraordinarily rare changes in the results. Too rare to even count it as anything but wild random chance. And a very expensive chance to take. If the "9" happens to be beaming a big smile at me as I walk into the bar and take a seat, then we might be talking about a real shot at getting what I need for the money.

I believe both challenges mentioned above, ethnic and sexual demands, require compromises to be made. More and greater compromises than an ethnically acceptable monger with basic, standard demands would ever have to make, imo.

[QUOTE=CamelToePokema;2301325]I'm also trying to deal with this conundrum and it's depressing to think that I'm having a hard time getting laid in Pattaya. Any pointers, suggestions to help me get a GFE experience would be welcome.[/QUOTE]I don't believe Thai girls have an inherent racist bias against any nationality but they have concerns based on perceived and let's be honest too often proven correct bad behavioral patterns.

Thai girls who are biased against South Asians have in my opinion three reasons for being so.

Hygiene. Get a good cologne and dress well.

Cheap and perhaps problem with getting paid.. It's not ideal but you may have to offer upfront payment but be as sure as you can that she knows and agrees to what you expect. Also early in the visit to the bar tip the mamasan and buy some drinks.

Difficult customer. Again agree in some detail what you expect in terms of how long she will spend with you and what services you want. Reinforce that you are a good customer. A smile, a sense of humor and a laid back chilled vibe will not go unnoticed.

When these fears are allayed getting laid should be no more difficult for you than anybody else and it will be only a question whether you can attract the attention of the girl you want to spend time with. Here money will not always but usually be key.

[QUOTE=RedMau5;2301576]Perhaps it's how you look, dress, hygiene, or carry yourself. You may be going after girls out of your league. There is something for everyone. Just lower your standards a bit. And remember, in the end, it's really they choose you. Not you choose them. That's why there are excuses. As for your pics, you should edit them with those apps that photoshop to make yourself attractive. It's commonly done.[/QUOTE]Every time the topics on Indians in Thailand comes out there's someone to advice them to be clean and put clean clothes on. I guess they already figured it out by themselves before coming and asking advises to random guys on the internet.

I'm pretty sure that the problem is mostly on the punter's attitude rather than the Thai girls not wanting to deal with them. And a big majority of these girls are real trash and they can act like that with any kind of guys, not only with Indians.

I've personally met a lot of attractive girls that had a lot of Indian males in their contact, we read a lot of stories of Indian guys having a very good time over there, so this topic of Indian guys being victim of a big discrimination by Thai people is completely wrong in my opinion (except from some gogo's or bars doormen but I would mostly say that it's done on an economical purpose or from a bad attitude from some customers from these countries before).

In a place like Pattaya we can all meet a lot of people that act or talk inappropriately with us without having to call it discrimination, it's just that the place attracts a lot of *ssh*les, be it Thai or from any origins.

The place you try to interact with them is important, in my experience discos in Pattaya are not a good place to find a girl for a fuck unless you know how to deal with these freelancers but it's not given to every punters.

The best bet in Pattaya for a guy who just want to fuck girls is still soi 6, just go and have a drink in one of the biggest bars without trying to spot the most beautiful girl of the soi, if you see a cute girl there pay her a drink and interract naturally with her, if she doesn't want to go with you just try your luck with another girl or move to another bar and try again. If anyone really want to fuck, it's almost impossible for a new comer to not find a girl there.

If bars are not your thing, then go to gogos, preferably on soi LK than walking street for a new comer.

The most important in any interaction with these girls is your attitude and to be willing to spend at least the going rate.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=NewbExcited;2301403]I am of Indian origin as well. I never had a problem finding a girl when I visited Bangkok and Patayya. Reading your post makes me wonder why you seem to have such a hard time. What you said about Indians may be partially true but it definitely isn't as bad as you made it sound. Wish you better luck.[/QUOTE]Your response gives me hope. I was talking about this with a couple of people who stay at the same hotel as me. One of these had accompanied me to the bar and he mentioned that it might be a good idea to buy the girls a drink even if I only drink Coke / Pepsi. They said that spending money on LD might help to get the girl agree to go with me for LT session. I'll be trying this out in the next few days and will post back.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2301797]Are you implying if there is a 9 on stage at a gogo bar who does not look or smile at you that you are supposed to ignore her for the 5 who doesn't stop smiling or take their eyes off you?

Biggest mistake I see in Pattaya are guys who think a girl is beautiful but don't call her for a lady drink because she's not smiling at him.[/QUOTE]Not everyone wants to go with the most beautiful girl in the place.

In my first years in Thailand I often fell for the very attractive ones (in discos), and almost always been disappointed ones in the room. Sometimes the disappointment was from her attitude but most of the time it was from her body, baby damages that were hidden or overused pussies.

Nowadays I would give priority to a cute girl than the one that every guys think is pretty.

[QUOTE=IMembr;2301431]Wish I could give good advise. You may have to give soapies a try as the ladies there are consistent. Probably should stop going after LT too and just stick to ST. Maybe try Soi 6 and doing ST there. The bar girl from Benelux sounds good, so it'd be worth repeating every few days.[/QUOTE]I'm trying to not let my disappointment frustrate me. So yesterday I decided that if I'm unable to pick up a girl at a bar, I would just go to a MP and release the tension. So I did go to a MP yesterday on the same street as Benelux but a little further down. They charged me 500 for an hour massage and 500 for a HJ. The massage was just for namesake and got a HJ towards the end. I was talking with the girl and after the massage was done, I suggested that I could give her a massage too. She agreed and I actually gave a decent massage for her shoulders, back, legs and feet. She was happy with the massage and was joking that she should pay me for the massage.

[QUOTE=RobJones;2301732]Surely you jest sir! I think you are trolling here! I have never heard such a pathetic story in my life and I have met some losers. To prove me wrong meet with a fellow board member.[/QUOTE]I understand how ridiculous this sounds and why you might have a hard time believing it. The people who stay at the same place have witnessed my plight and have tried to give me pointers to help me out. I'm definitely not a loser or a troll by any stretch of the imagination. In fact I'm quite pleasant to hang out with.

[QUOTE=WrongGuy;2301440]Take a couple of pics and post on your TF profile. So you will get reply from girls who are interested in you. Put into your intro that you are living in US and visiting Pattaya for holidays and this will set you apart from typical Indian crowed. In gogo I would just talk to mamasan and may be even buy HER a drink. This will show her you are a bit different from rest and willing to spend money, which is all they care. And if she believes you have deep enough pockets, she will maker her best girls available for you. And when she makes a girl available for you just be a normal dude. Establish that she is interested I'm being bar fined. Talk to her, buy her a couple of LD and I think you should be OK.

How long you planning to stay in Pattaya? I am landing in bkk on 28th Mar. And will be in Pattaya 4-5 days after. We can team upvif you are interested. Best of luck.[/QUOTE]I have an account with TF and have been trying that route. I didn't put up my pics since I would like to not have my pics out on the web due to privacy reasons. I haven't tried the go-go's yet. I'm assuming they are different from the bars? I'll try your suggestion and will buy the mamasan a LD and also buy the lady a few LD's if she is interested in being bar fined. I will post a review after that. I'm in pattaya till April 14, so if it's possible to team up that would be great. I don't have PM since I only have US credit cards.