Rio de Janeiro Reports

[QUOTE=Poucolouco]Your friend is right. However, the storm drain systems empty into the ocean unfiltered. I won't argue with someone who claims they saw a floater in the water but there could be many turd sources besides the sewer system for their origin. ;([/QUOTE]
Being a sanitary engineer myself, let me interject my expertise in this matter:

Rio, just like most thirld world places, has a combined sewer system that collects both precipitation water and sewers together in the same conduits. During small rainfall events, the existing systems will convey the mixed fluids into a 'treatment' center before it gets dumped in the ocean. That's all good and dandy.

Now, you have to ask yourself what happens during large storm events ?

Basically, the existing systems can't handle the larger flows, thus backing up everything into the ocean UNTREATED. That's why you should not swim just after it rains in Rio.

What is a large rainfall event in Rio?

In a nutshell, I would say any rainfall that lasts more than 30 minutes is a large rainfall event, as Rio's streets become flooded.

[QUOTE=Tiradentes]Being a sanitary engineer myself, let me interject my expertise in this matter:

Rio, just like most thirld world places, has a combined sewer system that collects both precipitation water and sewers together in the same conduits. During small rainfall events, the existing systems will convey the mixed fluids into a 'treatment' center before it gets dumped in the ocean. That's all good and dandy.

Now, you have to ask yourself what happens during large storm events ?

Basically, the existing systems can't handle the larger flows, thus backing up everything into the ocean UNTREATED. That's why you should not swim just after it rains in Rio.

What is a large rainfall event in Rio?

In a nutshell, I would say any rainfall that lasts more than 30 minutes is a large rainfall event, as Rio's streets become flooded.[/QUOTE]


Whom ever is claiming that there is treatment of the sewage is talking out of their asses.

Now, there is a new treatment facility near the airport but only a very small amount of sewage goes over there. Also it is for future cleaning of Baia Guanabara.

Zona Sul has no treatment what so ever. Everything goes directly to the ocean or in case of Barra da Tijuca to Lagoa do Jacarepagua. All you need to do to confirm this is to go anywhere near to the any water in Barra. Just smell and there you go.

I wouldn't swim anywhere near Rio, unless I'd want some strange skin dicease.

[quote=jamaicanceo]please, respect. if you really believe in respecting women you wouldn't posting their pictures on the internet for the world to see. in fact, you wouldn't be a monger, you phony![/quote]listen here you clown and admitted [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126][CodeWord126][/url] - don't talk to me about "respect". you don't understand the meaning of the word. you are out of touch. i do not post pictures as i do not take them. not my thing.

be very careful what you admit to here and what you say about some people here. and no one wants to read your child-like comebacks when you have been reminded what a tool you really are. grow a conscience and some self-respect.

[QUOTE=Perkele]Whom ever is claiming that there is treatment of the sewage is talking out of their asses.
Now, there is a new treatment facility near the airport but only a very small amount of sewage goes over there. Also it is for future cleaning of Baia Guanabara.
Zona Sul has no treatment what so ever...[/QUOTE]
There is one treatment facility in Parque Público in Flamengo, Estação de tratamento do Rio Carioca.

I doubt it's working, but at least they have one. :D

[QUOTE=Tiradentes]Rio, just like most third world places, has a combined sewer system that collects both precipitation water and sewers together in the same conduits. During small rainfall events, the existing systems will convey the mixed fluids into a 'treatment' center before it gets dumped in the ocean. That's all good and dandy.[/QUOTE]This is the same type system the City of Atlanta has, except the overflow goes into the Chattahoochee River instead of the ocean.

As an observation from the late 90's, at the far end of Leblon beach is a "pumping facility" for the esgoto. As the local legend (knowledge) had it the effluent pipe went about a mile or so into the ocean and ended. The pipe broke somewhere much nearer the beach and the repair included an extension to about three miles or so into the ocean. Now I'm not aware of any sort of treatment plant anywhere in that area. I report, you decide. Also, the favelas of Vidigal and Rochina, the local lore is their effluent just drains right down the hill into. The ocean. Just an observation.

[quote=hughdad]listen here you clown and admitted [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126][CodeWord126][/url] - don't talk to me about "respect". you don't understand the meaning of the word. you are out of touch. i do not post pictures as i do not take them. not my thing.

be very careful what you admit to here and what you say about some people here. and no one wants to read your child-like comebacks when you have been reminded what a tool you really are. grow a conscience and some self-respect.[/quote]
listen bozo, the girl and i had lunch today at bibi in copa and she helped me buy two pairs of new shorts for the beach you jealous clown. you spend so much time gossiping about club help that you've lost touch with mongering. [blue][deleted by admin][/blue] that she gave me her number and email after i sessioned with her. [blue][deleted by admin][/blue]

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[quote=jamaicanceo]please, respect. if you really believe in respecting women you wouldn't posting their pictures on the internet for the world to see. in fact, you wouldn't be a monger, you phony![/quote]funny stuff from an admitted [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126][CodeWord126][/url]. i don't post pictures because i don't take them. not my thing. i just like to enjoy the company of the woman / women i am with when i am with them.

but here is something funny for you to think about: being in a jail with some big dudes ass-[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] you and calling you shirley. only a fool would be posting things you post.

[QUOTE=Riofan6]This is the same type system the City of Atlanta has, except the overflow goes into the Chattahoochee River instead of the ocean.

As an observation from the late 90's, at the far end of Leblon beach is a "pumping facility" for the esgoto. As the local legend (knowledge) had it the effluent pipe went about a mile or so into the ocean and ended. The pipe broke somewhere much nearer the beach and the repair included an extension to about three miles or so into the ocean. Now I'm not aware of any sort of treatment plant anywhere in that area. I report, you decide. Also, the favelas of Vidigal and Rochina, the local lore is their effluent just drains right down the hill into. The ocean. Just an observation.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I remember when they had the "shit derrick" out off of Ipanema laying pipe back in 2001? 2002? Back a ways, anyhow.

[QUOTE=Sperto]There is one treatment facility in Parque Público in Flamengo, Estação de tratamento do Rio Carioca.

I doubt it's working, but at least they have one. :D[/QUOTE]

I stand corrected.

My comment of talking out of one's ass was meant to any brasilian who claims of working sewage treatment system in Rio, especially in Zona Sul.

[QUOTE=Perkele]I stand corrected.

My comment of talking out of one's ass was meant to any brasilian who claims of working sewage treatment system in Rio, especially in Zona Sul.[/QUOTE]


Ok, so whats the final answer? Some guys have said there is a sewer treament facility and others (like yourself) have said there is none, its pumped into the ocean. Is there a treatment center in Copa or not?

[QUOTE=Bravo]Ok, so whats the final answer? Some guys have said there is a sewer treament facility and others (like yourself) have said there is none, its pumped into the ocean. Is there a treatment center in Copa or not?[/QUOTE]
The treatment facility in Flamengo is supposed to take care of Zona Sul, including Copa. The facility had many problems and might not be working.
If a non-working facility allows the shit to be pumped out into the ocean I don't know (Tiradentes, that's your call).

I don't really worry. If the ocean looks clean to me I go for a swim. If it's dirty I just take a quick dip.

Just one question.... why in Brazil in many toilet is forbidden to put toilet paper into the WC ? It is the first country I saw with such suggest so far as I remember.

[QUOTE=Lukasek]Just one question.... why in Brazil in many toilet is forbidden to put toilet paper into the WC ? It is the first country I saw with such suggest so far as I remember.[/QUOTE]Clogs the plumbing in the buildings as the water pressure is often not great.

[QUOTE=Lukasek]Just one question.... why in Brazil in many toilet is forbidden to put toilet paper into the WC ? It is the first country I saw with such suggest so far as I remember.[/QUOTE]Pipes too small and TP will clog them up.

As far as sewage treatment, that is much much much too deep in the "culture" even for me. I can't even tell you about that in my own damn city.

Still nobody has ever been able to give me an answer to why some toilets in Latin America don't have seats.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Pipes too small and TP will clog them up....Still nobody has ever been able to give me an answer to why some toilets in Latin America don't have seats.[/QUOTE]

Thanks... not to mention the lack of the bidet that you find even in the 1 star hotel in Europe :) and in Argentina too btw