Rio de Janeiro Reports

[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2789465]I respect your approach to how you hobby in RJ and Brazil in general, and I probably would do things differently if I was in your shoes and live there. Your advice is sound for some, but not true for everyone.

1) You basically live there and can bide your time.

2) You have built up a black book so can call girls over whenever and can just visit 4 x4 or other boates or termas to add to your black book.
[/QUOTE]I agree. Mongering as a tourist and a local are completely different.

As a tourist, you're on a time crunch and every second matters. You have less leverage because you need to go back home sooner or later.

As a local / ex-pat, you can really take your time and you have a phone full of WG numbers already.

[QUOTE=Markon;2792100]I've noticed this on a few of the sites I've looked at. Barravips for example. What is the point of this? There is a link to whatsapp. If I text will I get a canned response with pricing information? I've seen it on the higher level websites for Rio and SP. Don't really want to get involved with texting back and forth when I'm not in the country.[/QUOTE]Most of the time in Rio the person will be texting. They may copy and paste the prices. Nobody is texting back and forth. They are running a pussy selling business, not trying to make friends with you. If you see an ad for a moving company there is no price. You call or send a message and say how much for so and so. They don't text you 6 weeks later to ask how you are doing and what you did last weekend. If anything, it is foreign punters that try to turn ho business into something more. Damn near everything is done through whatsapp these days.

[QUOTE=Markon;2792100]I've noticed this on a few of the sites I've looked at. Barravips for example. What is the point of this? There is a link to whatsapp. If I text will I get a canned response with pricing information? I've seen it on the higher level websites for Rio and SP. Don't really want to get involved with texting back and forth when I'm not in the country.[/QUOTE]There is your answer. Barravips is that higher level website that doesn't want to scare you off with their high prices. I can tell you that they will start with at least 500 reals, and it's not easy to bring them down (but not impossible). Furthermore, unless you have too much time on your hands, it's 100% useless to talk to them before you're already there. These girls aren't big on a long-term planning, kkkk.

[QUOTE=Markon;2792100]I've noticed this on a few of the sites I've looked at. Barravips for example. What is the point of this? There is a link to whatsapp. If I text will I get a canned response with pricing information? I've seen it on the higher level websites for Rio and SP. Don't really want to get involved with texting back and forth when I'm not in the country.[/QUOTE]I never got canned responses and found myself chatting with the girl who advertised herself. I would say where I was, what services I was looking for, when I wanted to meet, etc. She would reply with what she did and did not do, her prices, her availability and so on. Try it. You might like it. Too much worrying, nay saying, and excuses around here lately!

The only question I have is, where is 4 x4? Is it called Whiskeria Quatro por Quatro on google maps?

[QUOTE=Global00;2790370]Landed in Rio about 9 in the morning from an overnight flight. The flight was ridiculously cheap so I decided to come even though I don't like large events like Carnaval.

Got to the hotel about 10:30 am and took a quick nap and went out on the hunt.

Av Treze de Maio, 47.

Didn't get to check out the privees because it was a hassle to get access to the building. It looks like you need a white card to get access to the building and there was a line I didn't feel like waiting for.

Av Treze de Maio, 33.

There were only 3 rooms on the 21st floor (2102,2103,2107) that I could find. Usually there have been many more on other floors but I couldn't find any or I missed them. I bailed on the search after the 15 floor.

All prices on the 21st floor start around 40 for like 15-20 minutes and go up to around 120 or more for an hour. Room 2102 had 3 older MILF types. Didn't session. Room 2103 had about 5 girls with mixed looks from tall and skinny, petite with some curves. Didn't session because I wanted to check out other floors first and there wasn't any grande bundas. Room 2107 had two girls, they were ok if you just wanted a quick but but nothing to write home about. They looked younger than the milfs but older than the girls in 2103.

Rio Branca 165,185.

Walked by the elevators and they had a similar set up to Maio 47. Have to get access to the elevators and there was a line and I didn't feel like waiting.

Uruguaiana 24.

About 12-14 girls in total. Most of the girls are at the bottom bar as you go up the dark spiral stairs. Similar body types as the privees on Maio 33. A few of the girls grabbed me and I think they quoted 60 or 70 for a quick session. Didn't session.

4 x4.

Got here around 3:30. A little too early but there were about 10-12 girls there with about 7-8 guys there. Much more variety and had the bundas I was looking for. Took a 25 year old with nice rotund bundaz forgot her name. Asked her what services she offered and she said she didn't have any restrictions. So I asked her everything I could think of and she agreed to it even bareback which I didn't do but was intrigued to see how she performed. We did an hour and she performed well. For me a stunner is lessed tied to a woman's physical looks and is more about how good her pussy feels (tight, wet, and warm). She didn't meet the stunner status for me but was enjoyable. We had to bail on anal because I forgot the lube and she could fit it in without her being in pain.

Went back down to the bar area, more girls and more guys. Soon as I sat down for approached over and over again. Told them I was leaving in a little and didn't want company at this time. Left and paid $440 in total for sex, room and two cokes.

Whiskeria 65.

My last time here I found huge bundas and great pussy so I always check it out. The terma doesn't have the variety 4 x4 have and usually have bigger curvier women. There were a couple girls that didn't fit the mode with small bundas, breast but pretty faces. Most were very thick. There were about 20 girls there and about ten guys. I picked the biggest ass to waist I could find. Asked her about her services and again I got no restrictions. Off to the room we went and got two nuts out of it. Was about to get in the ass and she could take a pounding. Actually she out pounded me and after my second nut she wanted to fuck more. She said let's do two more sessions and she wouldn't charge me extras. I was spent and tapped out. She told me Brazilian women like to fuck a lot and daily. I was like I come from a sex starved barren wasteland and can't keep up. She laughed and asked for my number and asked if she could come stay with me. I told her we can talk about but I know I probably won't because it's just too much pussy and other places to be explored in Rio. And I rather sleep by myself. And speaking of sleep, I was dead tired but satisfied at this point and went to the hotel to rest. More exploration to come.[/QUOTE]

Helpful report, thanks!

I have not heard of Barra (the town) before. I will have to explore when I am in Rio as I am considering to stay there for a while.

[QUOTE=WayneRoberts;2784176]I was in Brazil for about 6 weeks, of which two weeks was spent in Rio. I have been to Brazil before, but I am a newbie for the most part. I thought the best approach would be to just give my overall thoughts on things as that might provide more value.

Stayed in Copacabana for 14 days, had an AirBNB that was girl friendly. I had two friends with me, so the apartment was quite large. I must say that it was a struggle to find decent accommodation we paid through the nose for the place. Granted end of the year in Rio is a clusterfuck *but there were a few lessons learned. Given my tastes, I am likely to just spend a bit more and stay in Ipanema or Leblon next time. One question I have with regards to AirBNB is how frequently they are guest friendly? In future the preference would be to stay there rather than a hotel, the hotels are not great in Rio given the cost I must say. *.

I went to 4 termas - 4 x4, Solarium, Centaurus and Monte Carlo.

4 x4 was my favorite by far, loved the energy in the place and the selection of girls. Some nights I was doing multiple sessions there. Solarium was a bit more low key, but also very, VERY good. Monte Carlo did not have the same selection of girls I thought, but its close proximity to Copa made it convenient and I enjoyed it. Overall, when I return as a solo traveler next time I am going to spend the bulk of my time hunting in the termas I think, and will sprinkle in some massage therapists and girls from the clinicas.

Centaurus was a nightmare, which is unfortunate because the experience itself ended up being quite good with the girls in the room. Both me and my two friends were mauled when we got in there. There is one thing with the girls being aggressive, but we could not even get a drink in the damn place we were just being bombarded to the point we had to be rude with some of them. I actually suggested we walk, but both of my friends wanted to just stick it out and see how things went. I am assuming this is because they could see a mile away that we were tourists, but Ill never set foot in that place again.

The girls were relentless, and it was not fun at all with endless pressure to go to rooms and attempts to upsell before we even got halfway through a beer. I ended up taking two at once for a threesome, and even then the upselling did not stop. To the point that one of the girls disappears, then comes back to the room with a third girl! I had to threaten to leave before they accepted the no. At the end of the session, that same girl then pushed for a large tip and tried to convince me that I had not paid her yet, after which I said we would settle it downstairs and the bullshit stopped. Beyond that was a push for drugs too, obviously the plan is to get you inebriated and just accept everything they throw at you. I wish I could say that it was just me, both of my friends had similar experiences they said after we met downstairs. We spent all of 2. 5 hours in the club, of which 2 would have been in the rooms. We exited as soon as the sessions were finished rather than deal with anymore bullshit.

Its unfortunate because the threesome ended up being one of the best I ever had. Both of the girls where highly engaged with each other too, so even with the issues I had (and the cost! Not cheap!) the experience was very good. Both were great performers, and the quieter one who was feeling embarrassed by her friends antics I met outside the club on once occasion. She told me that competition is relentless there, and she was likely to go to a different club because it was getting worse with the girls behavior. The experience with her outside the club was very good too.

Pulled a ton of numbers from the boates and worked through a few girls though, as did my friends.

Dolce Vita on one occasion, while fun I preferred the Termas. Cost wise its the same and I just think you have better options at the termas.

We had 4 days in Barra, but got rained out a bit. I really liked Perola Negra, was disappointed that we only got to go once. I liked Barra a lot, however unless you have a car you are going to have to taxi everywhere. I can see why living here instead of Rio would appeal though, and I think once you get rolling in that place and build up a book of working girls and favorites it would be a pretty decent place to spend some time. If I was going to come to Rio for 3 months plus, I would likely choose Barra over Ipanama / Copa / Leblon area I think.

Also used the BarraVIPs site, must say I was surprised that even though the pics are photoshopped, the girls did match their profiles for the most part and I thought the value was reasonable.

Went to RJ Massagem, girls would not fuck on site but I got the number and ended up fucking a lady called Thais off site. She said all the girls should be available to meet outside, the owners were just strict about sex in the shop. Not sure how typical this is in Rio, in Sao Paulo was not the case at all.

No doubt this would have been cheaper if I spoke a bit more porto, was a solo traveler and had a bit more experience. On average though, the cost is not that much higher than Thailand these days all in when you consider the rate of the average barfine at a decent gogo. Sure you can fuck mongrels on Soi 6, but compared to what's at the termas and escorting the thai women are not in the same league not with these exchange rates.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Junior11;2792192]The only question I have is, where is 4 x4? Is it called Whiskeria Quatro por Quatro on google maps?[/QUOTE]Quatro por Quatro and it's in town.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2792213]Quatro por Quatro and it's in town.[/QUOTE]It's on Rua Buenos Aires and it's in Google Maps. Any taxi driver will know it, or it's a short walk from Uruguaiana Metro.

I appreciate the details, including price.

[QUOTE=Global00;2790370]Landed in Rio about 9 in the morning from an overnight flight. The flight was ridiculously cheap so I decided to come even though I don't like large events like Carnaval.

Got to the hotel about 10:30 am and took a quick nap and went out on the hunt.

Av Treze de Maio, 47.

Didn't get to check out the privees because it was a hassle to get access to the building. It looks like you need a white card to get access to the building and there was a line I didn't feel like waiting for.

Av Treze de Maio, 33.

There were only 3 rooms on the 21st floor (2102,2103,2107) that I could find. Usually there have been many more on other floors but I couldn't find any or I missed them. I bailed on the search after the 15 floor.

All prices on the 21st floor start around 40 for like 15-20 minutes and go up to around 120 or more for an hour. Room 2102 had 3 older MILF types. Didn't session. Room 2103 had about 5 girls with mixed looks from tall and skinny, petite with some curves. Didn't session because I wanted to check out other floors first and there wasn't any grande bundas. Room 2107 had two girls, they were ok if you just wanted a quick but but nothing to write home about. They looked younger than the milfs but older than the girls in 2103.

Rio Branca 165,185.

Walked by the elevators and they had a similar set up to Maio 47. Have to get access to the elevators and there was a line and I didn't feel like waiting.

Uruguaiana 24.

About 12-14 girls in total. Most of the girls are at the bottom bar as you go up the dark spiral stairs. Similar body types as the privees on Maio 33. A few of the girls grabbed me and I think they quoted 60 or 70 for a quick session. Didn't session.

4 x4.

Got here around 3:30. A little too early but there were about 10-12 girls there with about 7-8 guys there. Much more variety and had the bundas I was looking for. Took a 25 year old with nice rotund bundaz forgot her name. Asked her what services she offered and she said she didn't have any restrictions. So I asked her everything I could think of and she agreed to it even bareback which I didn't do but was intrigued to see how she performed. We did an hour and she performed well. For me a stunner is lessed tied to a woman's physical looks and is more about how good her pussy feels (tight, wet, and warm). She didn't meet the stunner status for me but was enjoyable. We had to bail on anal because I forgot the lube and she could fit it in without her being in pain.

Went back down to the bar area, more girls and more guys. Soon as I sat down for approached over and over again. Told them I was leaving in a little and didn't want company at this time. Left and paid $440 in total for sex, room and two cokes.

Whiskeria 65.

My last time here I found huge bundas and great pussy so I always check it out. The terma doesn't have the variety 4 x4 have and usually have bigger curvier women. There were a couple girls that didn't fit the mode with small bundas, breast but pretty faces. Most were very thick. There were about 20 girls there and about ten guys. I picked the biggest ass to waist I could find. Asked her about her services and again I got no restrictions. Off to the room we went and got two nuts out of it. Was about to get in the ass and she could take a pounding. Actually she out pounded me and after my second nut she wanted to fuck more. She said let's do two more sessions and she wouldn't charge me extras. I was spent and tapped out. She told me Brazilian women like to fuck a lot and daily. I was like I come from a sex starved barren wasteland and can't keep up. She laughed and asked for my number and asked if she could come stay with me. I told her we can talk about but I know I probably won't because it's just too much pussy and other places to be explored in Rio. And I rather sleep by myself. And speaking of sleep, I was dead tired but satisfied at this point and went to the hotel to rest. More exploration to come.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Global00;2790370]....... She said let's do two more sessions and she wouldn't charge me extras. I was spent and tapped out. She told me Brazilian women like to fuck a lot and daily.......[/QUOTE]This is a fact. Reminds me of a Solarium babe who masturbated right after my session with her when I could go no more. Someone should do a study as to why Brazilian women are like this and why US women are the opposite.

[QUOTE=Jan156;2792222]It's on Rua Buenos Aires and it's in Google Maps. Any taxi driver will know it, or it's a short walk from Uruguaiana Metro.[/QUOTE]You think? You would think any taxi driver would know it, but the last time I went the guy didn't know where he was going and missed a crucial turn. That resulted in us getting stuck in a massive traffic jam! I was steamed because I knew every minute I spent stuck in traffic meant that the best "snatch" was getting snatched up! I finally decided to pay the guy and got out and walked the rest of the way. Let [B]him[/B] sit there in gridlocked traffic due to his own error. I got some cuzinhas to drill! Come to think of it, for whatever reason the cab drivers were pretty bad the last few times I was in Brazil. I mean worse than usual. Not knowing the cities, unsafe driving, etc. I was riding with one idiot who couldn't find Centaurus! I told him to stop, paid him, and got out and hailed another taxi who took me right there. Then in Porto Alegre I was riding with another doofus who still got lost using GPS! WTF? He did take some money off of the fare, which was only the right thing to do. Then in Sampa I was riding with a driver who almost hit a pedestrian due to not keeping his eyes on the road! I had to yell out to alert him. The pedestrian should not have been in the crosswalk, but he was and he would not have come close to getting hit if the cab driver had kept his eyes on the road. During my very first trip to Sampa, I didn't know the lay of the land and this taxi driver took me way out of the way from Moema to downtown to Rua Augusta on a Sunday! I say again. WTF? I knew something didn't feel right, but with it being my very first time in Sao Paulo I wasn't sure. Well, I got to see some of downtown and made a note to come back on another Sunday, but I eventually hailed another taxi to take me to the clinica I wanted to visit at the time. I had cuzinhas to drill!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2792300]This is a fact. Reminds me of a Solarium babe who masturbated right after my session with her when I could go no more. Someone should do a study as to why Brazilian women are like this and why US women are the opposite.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I have had many Brazilian girls that want to achieve organism as much as I do. On a number of occasions, I have cum, but the girl kept going. I stayed inside her pussy semi hard, hangin' on best I could, ha ha, until she got me hard again and then away we went. It is really nice to be with girls like that, but to be fair, I have experienced the same thing with girls in Makati, AC, Phnom Penh, and Jakarta.

But you ask the basic question; why are the vast majority of American girls a pain in the ass and not fun to be with. The answer is Suffragette, the Women's Liberation Movement, and the embedding of this toxic feminist political movement inside the Democratic Party. This political movement is responsible for destroying the attitudes of most American girls which is why male / female relations in the USA is so unhappy. For example, before Suffragette there used to "houses" ie casas in nearly every county circuit in the USA. Men had a place to relax, socialize, have a few drinks, and get laid before going home to the family. Remember the family? That's gone. Girls used to be raised to be woman, wives, and mothers. To take care of their men. Not anymore. Girls are indoctrinated to go to work in cubicles and to rely on the government, not their families, when they get old. Good luck with that!

And don't forget before they destroyed American womanhood these sanctimonious fascists gave us: prohibition. That was a brilliant idea. Now these geniuses are telling us that anyone can be a woman or a man at anytime. How many of you guys agree with that one? UHM? Specifically, who here thinks a ladyboy is a girl? So, thanks to the Feminazis and the radical Left, the USA is solely a place to work & make money and most Americans of both sexes are unhappy even if many don't want to admit it.

Luckily there are still a few places left like Brazil where men can still have a good time with man friendly, unindoctrinated girls. But for how long? That is the question. As I posted before, I just need another 15 years. Then I will hang up my spurs, rent a condo on a beach in southern Thailand, and live out the remainder of my life with my favorite girl, who at the present moment is a sexy Scandallo spinner.

Thanks for the input. I assume the girl is fluent in English if you are chatting and not texting and not translating to English unless you are fluent in Portuguese. The other site I saw was [URL]private55.com[/URL]. I'm trying to do as much research in advance and have a list of potentials when I arrive. That would mean I have price, positive TDs, etc. Before I reach out to contact them when I'm there.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2792121]I never got canned responses and found myself chatting with the girl who advertised herself. I would say where I was, what services I was looking for, when I wanted to meet, etc. She would reply with what she did and did not do, her prices, her availability and so on. Try it. You might like it. Too much worrying, nay saying, and excuses around here lately![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Markon;2792324]Thanks for the input. I assume the girl is fluent in English if you are chatting and not texting and not translating to English unless you are fluent in Portuguese. The other site I saw was [URL]private55.com[/URL]. I'm trying to do as much research in advance and have a list of potentials when I arrive. That would mean I have price, positive TDs, etc. Before I reach out to contact them when I'm there.[/QUOTE]Some have been fluent in English and proud to show that off. Some only understand Portuguese (the majority), and that's where online translators have been my friends. What I usually do is make my initial contact in Portuguese and pretty quickly let them know that I'm not Brazilian and using a translator (no surprises). If the girl speaks English, then she will often respond that way. If it's Portuguese only that she knows, then she responds with that and it's fine since I can easily translate everything I need to know. Now it's not like I don't understand [B]anything[/B] in Portuguese and have to translate every single thing. I can read simple Portuguese (my Spanish does help) and easily understand when they're quoting prices for the "standard" kinds of services offered. And I'm not worrying about the girls trying to jack the price up because they know I'm a gringo. I do the research and know what the price ought to be, and I can immediately counter with something that's fair and firm if they're quoting stupid rates. I've never had any problems with the pricing really. For example, I found the porn star Elisa Sanches on Rio Sex Site (our WhatsApp chats were 100% in Portuguese), and couldn't believe she was only charging me like 300 reals per hour with anal and BBBJ all included! Don't remember the exact amount, but it was def in the 300's, and that was when the exchange rate was probably around 4 to 1 at least. Once I met her in person, I found out that she was fluent in Spanish, so all of our communication was in that language going forward. Rio Sex Site: [URL]https://www.riosexsite.com/.[/URL] Notice the mix of lighter and darker girls on that site. That's representative of what you can find in Rio. You won't have a problem finding either in the Marvelous City.

Thanks for the complete agenda for a day and some humor on top: the!

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2789738]I respect and value your posts too and enjoyed our lunch out there at Na Brasa Colombia at Olegario Maciel 7 in Barra the Tijuca. BTW, the pro forma proper tour of Barra is a topic of interest and would include 1) classico beach club anytime during daylight, 2) a meal or drink at Na Brasa, 3) Perola Negra, Ave de Pepe 400,4) Paris Cafe, 5) tell the cab driver to go by Posto 10 -12 where there are often some top top tier hoars street walking. All in one, 8 hours. Hydrate.

OK, so, the customer is always right. It's FU money, so our man fucked, and it's all good.

That said, it is possible, even with 24 hours to get numbers and vamos fugir, as the song goes.

First, I would say, always go to a prive, like Darkroom or Emporio, which is less than 300 meters away and blow a load. Half hour 100 reais. Always hot tail there, as good as Lua, whose number I had from talking to here in 4 x4, but had not risen to the top of the roledex (the perola girls are better IMHO).

[URL]https://www.emporiodobanhorj.com/massagistas[/URL]

Then go to 4 x4, say 17 h or 18 h. Get numbers. Be specific, and fast. "Vou conversar no zap. Quero marcar no hotel hoje" Having blown a load up Nani's or Monique's hot box (and Monique at Emporio is hotter than Lua, IMHO; and Nani too, for those who prefer a whiter shade of pale), one is perhaps sated for 6 hours.

Maybe go over to Ganjah Coffee Shop at Rua Rezende, chill a little.

Leave 4 x4 and set up a link up at a hotel off of guiadomoteis. Send her the link, the address.

[URL]https://www.guiademoteis.com.br/rio-de-janeiro[/URL]

For example, Sheik. Suite com hidro. OK. It's not the Marriot, maybe beds are not as good, but you're there to fuck multiple times, hopefully BBFS with tests, right? And the Hidro. I always love a hidro. The uber from 4 x4 at say 22 h or 23 h to Sheik is like 10 minutes.

I'm not sayin there is anything wrong with paying the house 500 reais, but they put the numbers for the girls on the fkn website for a reason. The locals never pay 1100 take out pernoite. Why would you not save the 500, and take Nani or Monique or a Darkroom girl in 2 or 3 of her hot holes for a half hour instead? Or you could go to 116, and find a fine morena like Cereja, or any number of other girls there, some of whom prefer to go to 116 instead of 4 x4. And I got to tell ya, Cereja has like a Monica Mattos ass, like the kind of ass that would make you want to quit the rich world gig you have and go into porn. She also has a boyfriend and is from Jacarazinho, where the police and the traficantes are stacking up bodies like firewood, so, it might not be love, but it makes for a spicy session.

Nani, oh, tits with marks do bikini like monica mattos, and suckable, little pert nipples. And what a nice tight pussy. It's the little things, you know. 500 reais? Donate it to the management and the nice English speaking lady, or suck on nani's tits 5 more times and violate her teen box again with your cock? Man, I don't know, maybe I have gone native, but for my 500 Lula's, I want Nani's lips wrapped around my bratwurst another 5 times than to talk to a nice English speaking lady who smiles while she is fucking me.[/QUOTE]