FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2770529]No but the main airport is FRA, and this is probably where most of the [U]pure[/U] sex tourists fly to, because Frankfurt Airport offers the widest selection of cheapest flights, especially long haul flights from the US and Asia. Renting a car and driving from Frankfurt all the way to Munich and Berlin is probably too much hassle for most of these sex tourists, they are on a budget and they want the cheapest hotel and the cheapest flight and the shortest train-taxi ride to the nearest FKK club, and only focus on visiting the big clubs (Palace, Sharks, Mainhattan, Oase etc) in the greater Frankfurt area. Only a handful of these tourists venture out to NRW, but that's about it, hardly enough to make an impact. By the way, what I mean with [U]pure[/U] sex tourists are men that fly to Germany with the [U]sole purpose[/U] of fucking WGs.

I recently visited FKK Paradise in Saarbruecken, and guess what: prices were only 60 Euros for 30 minutes, but then again, almost no Americans or Asians could find Saarbruecken on a map so they don't go there to spoil prices. LOL! Paradise is full with French, but most continental Europeans tend to not overpay or pay stupid amounts in "tips" (in other words they respect the local traditions and culture) and the relatively modest price increase from 50 to 60 Euros (20%) is more than enough to cover for inflation.

Just look at this forum: almost all clubs that people report on are located in the Frankfurt area + perhaps Artemis in Berlin + Acapulco Gold in NRW. With the unfortunate destruction of GT and the demise of LR you hardly see any NRW clubs in the top 5 of new posts on ISG, The fact that GT's 'successor' club Oceans is a [U]total tourist trap[/U] with rip-off pricing again underscores my point. As an example, a few years ago I remember paying only 25 Euros for a CIM in GT, when the going rate was already 50 in Sharks.[/QUOTE]Did you try GoldenGate or Penelope or 6 NL? Funny, miss 6 NL 2022 just elected on Youppie, ex Vanila where I got her on 2019 , lovely but now so fat ass full of cellulite, we really all don't have same eyes, I will keep mine.

[QUOTE=SobeLizard;2770507]This conversation that continues about the girls and pricing level is never going to go away. The truth to the fact is 50 euro for 30 minutes is a German standard and it was a German policy so that it hedges against inflation for seniors to enjoy. With this advent of the internet and the spread of information you have these retard tourists that thinks they know everything come and destroy a paradise.

I know what it's like to lose. Germans have lost World War I and World War II but they have built back a stronger nation for understanding how to set policies and procedures that will protect the nation as a whole.

Most of us locals are here to defend what we feel is right, but yet to lose to the upselling in the past year (2022). I have seen many newer girls sit on the sidelines while the older girls are busy in rooms. The locals are still paying the pre-COVID rates and the girls that have been in the business will continue to service the locals at pre-covid rates.

The first thing you must understand is that the newer girls are not accustomed to negotiations therefore they will immediately back off. If you had been a loyal customer for years your girl will try her best to accommodate you and to provide you with excellent service for pre-COVID price because they know that you are a repeat customer and a regular.

For those that flout their wealth from USA, they come to FKK for 3 to 4 days and are likely to spend more money because they value their time and and like to maximize their effectiveness and efficiency in FKK. The reason why is they chose FKK because they have destroyed their own industry through liberal politics, feminist movements and equal pay, and woke thinking. They come into a new system that has been built up by German locals to protect the industries and knowingly that they are getting a better bargain and being able to enjoy paradise they come and seek to destroy what German locals have established for more than 20 years.

I will bring to management attention that all foreigners must pay triple to enter the club. We shall pass the burden onto foreigners through taxes. The excess fees collected will be passed to the girls in the form of lower entrance fees. The intended purpose is to reduce the cost for the girls so that they can go back to charging 50 for 30 minutes. I believe in US an out of state student must pay more at a State run college. This same concept should apply to foreign entities coming into FKK.[/QUOTE]Germans and I know some, pay 100/30 and even for some not pretty. Some regulars moved to north where less expensive.

[QUOTE=PlentyOfTime;2769438]Does anyone know what is planned for Silvester / New Years Eve 2022? Usually a special party.[/QUOTE]They have announced the party for Christmas and the one for Sylvester's party should follow quickly, from what the girls have been told it will be exactly the same has last year.

Concerning the line-up I hope for a good one for two reasons:

* The prices in Romania have gone insanely up and it's much more expensive for the girls to go back.

* The management of Sharks have increased the bonus for the girls that stays for Christmas and the New Year.

[QUOTE=Faceless78;2770030]If we take WGs as the staffs of a company, it's normal they receive a increase each year, like 5-10%[/QUOTE]No, it's not. The blue collar worker in Germany got almost nothing in the last 20 years (like 0,3- 1,5% per year). Pretty much the same thing in the US.

It's ok to discuss prices. This is not a sex forum as many tend to think, but a sex for money forum. We should keep each other informed about what's going on on the ground so that we can take qualified decisions on where to go.

So let's try to keep it real.

Instead of the tourist scapegoating that a few here are peddling, the Sharks pricing situation is more easily explained by simple realities. Romania today is not Romania of 10 years ago.

[URL]https://www.ceicdata.com/datapage/charts/ipc_romania_annual-household-income-per-capita/?type=area&from=2010-12-01&to=2021-12-01&lang=en[/URL]

From 2000 to 2016, during the early years of Romanian capitalism and entry into the EU, the average household income was only 3000 USD. Since 2016, it has doubled to over 6000 usd. And that is only reported income. We all should know that Romania is a very corrupt nation and actual cash flow into the country's households is well over the 6000 usd figure.

If you think that a nation's annual income doubling in 5 years doesn't play a major reason for why you find less girls willing to perform sex work for 50 euro, then you are not accepting the realities of other humans in other societies.

I don't agree with girls abruptly doubling their prices but if you think 50 euro should remain the price, then I think that comes only from selfish desires and refusal to recognize changing times. Don't accept the 100 euro rate but if prices settle in at 60-70 euro, I think we should all be optimistic that new talent will continue to flow into the clubs. If prices are not allowed to go up slightly, we will be fucking the same old girls for years.

[QUOTE=Shark16;2770658]No, it's not. The blue collar worker in Germany got almost nothing in the last 20 years (like 0,3- 1,5% per year). Pretty much the same thing in the US.

It's ok to discuss prices. This is not a sex forum as many tend to think, but a sex for money forum. We should keep each other informed about what's going on on the ground so that we can take qualified decisions on where to go.

So let's try to keep it real.[/QUOTE]One could argue that the top Sharks girls demanding and receiving 100/30 or even 150/30 are not the blue collar equivalents. The blue collar section of WGs, ie low end commodity, might be available even now for a 30 bucks quickie somewhere.

The top of the pyramid in Coporate America or EU have been taking home most of the loot for a while and now such differential pricing has come to mongerdom. It was always there in other places. High end escorts commanded thousands. But for a while, FKKs provided high enough quality optics, a minimum guaranteed service level at a set price regardless of the girl in the club. That was an anomaly.

Whether they deserved 100% price hike is a moot question. I wish prices and services had remained the same, but wishes don't matter.

There used to be so many more quality girls. I don't know where they all disappeared. Surely word must have reached them about the current prices. But it is the optics, the service levels which are as disappointing as the prices and the haggling although my sample size is extremely small.

The worst part is that even at $100/30 m, I am still finding the same WGs as 3 yrs ago and there's very few new girls showing up at FKK, or sex industry in general.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2770686]Instead of the tourist scapegoating that a few here are peddling, the Sharks pricing situation is more easily explained by simple realities. Romania today is not Romania of 10 years ago.

[URL]https://www.ceicdata.com/datapage/charts/ipc_romania_annual-household-income-per-capita/?type=area&from=2010-12-01&to=2021-12-01&lang=en[/URL]

From 2000 to 2016, during the early years of Romanian capitalism and entry into the EU, the average household income was only 3000 USD. Since 2016, it has doubled to over 6000 usd. And that is only reported income. We all should know that Romania is a very corrupt nation and actual cash flow into the country's households is well over the 6000 usd figure.

If you think that a nation's annual income doubling in 5 years doesn't play a major reason for why you find less girls willing to perform sex work for 50 euro, then you are not accepting the realities of other humans in other societies.

I don't agree with girls abruptly doubling their prices but if you think 50 euro should remain the price, then I think that comes only from selfish desires and refusal to recognize changing times. Don't accept the 100 euro rate but if prices settle in at 60-70 euro, I think we should all be optimistic that new talent will continue to flow into the clubs. If prices are not allowed to go up slightly, we will be fucking the same old girls for years.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2770686]Instead of the tourist scapegoating that a few here are peddling, the Sharks pricing situation is more easily explained by simple realities. Romania today is not Romania of 10 years ago.

[URL]https://www.ceicdata.com/datapage/charts/ipc_romania_annual-household-income-per-capita/?type=area&from=2010-12-01&to=2021-12-01&lang=en[/URL]

From 2000 to 2016, during the early years of Romanian capitalism and entry into the EU, the average household income was only 3000 USD. Since 2016, it has doubled to over 6000 usd. And that is only reported income. We all should know that Romania is a very corrupt nation and actual cash flow into the country's households is well over the 6000 usd figure.

If you think that a nation's annual income doubling in 5 years doesn't play a major reason for why you find less girls willing to perform sex work for 50 euro, then you are not accepting the realities of other humans in other societies.

I don't agree with girls abruptly doubling their prices but if you think 50 euro should remain the price, then I think that comes only from selfish desires and refusal to recognize changing times. Don't accept the 100 euro rate but if prices settle in at 60-70 euro, I think we should all be optimistic that new talent will continue to flow into the clubs. If prices are not allowed to go up slightly, we will be fucking the same old girls for years.[/QUOTE]Many Romanians also in NRW and they are not for 100/30 but around 50/30 for same level on average than at Sharks for looks and level in bed. Do they come from other Romania? Agree for big corruption, but did inflation 100% in Romania from 2021 when 100/60 was still quite standard at Sharks. Can still happen at Mainhattan where less tourists. What surprise me is Germans who pay 100 per 30 when I didn t have many rooms at Sharks on this year until my lovely sweet GFE frenchie I repeated. Yesterday evening, went to Ukrainian escort in Paris, lovely cumming so much, 200 for more than 50 minutes, but frenchie and Kasper. De are on higher level because of their look for me, when beauty worth more expensive for me. Very interesting was to talk about life in Kiev under war when they have easier gaz than electricity. A bit funny, she was colder in her Paris 16th district appartment where more than 20000 € per meter square than in Ukraine. Good if Ukrainians can find heat at home until Putin is killed, for better time then for Russia.

To all you pathetic simps out there, whatever reason brings you to the clubs, control your urges to spend and don't ruin it like what happened to US and Thailand. If you want to do something nice for the girls buy them a gift and try to use your skills to get them to go to the room rather than throw money and spit on other people's face. It's getting really irritating and annoying that this has turned completely into a shit show talking about pay. How many guys actually talk about woman on this forum?

Some retards think that because they can spend 200/ HR thinks that they're getting better service. The truth is the older, uglier, fatter, balder, you are the least desirable you are and the more you have to pay.

Paying more doesn't give you an ego boost. It just goes to show how far apart you are from someone else that would get the same service for 100 an hour. So if you still have what it takes to be a man. Man up.

[QUOTE=SerpentX;2770742]The worst part is that even at $100/30 m, I am still finding the same WGs as 3 yrs ago and there's very few new girls showing up at FKK, or sex industry in general.[/QUOTE]You should come more often in Sharks, almost once a month I go with a 20 years old girl fresh from the bus. Flori, Kendra, Bibi, and the list goes on and on.

It's been so long since a real report here (we are now at almost 10 pages about the prices!) that I will try to post something useful for once.

Last weekend they were a Weihnachtsparty with a special buffet and live-shows announced: the buffet was marginally better than normal and no shows were seen at all. But nobody cares because it was probably the best line-up seen in Sharks this year. More than 100 girls (and that's not a number coming from nowhere, for another forum some men listed the name of almost all the girls present), with a great number of new ones, the most discussed were probably Zoe a German girl and Laura a French one, but for me the most interesting was Flori a 20 years old Romanian arrived Wednesday.

For the club's regulars there were Senna, Catalea, Nadine, Aylinn, Sabrina, Alina, Angela, Chanel, Roxy, and so many more.

I did sessions with 7 girls:

Amanda: my top regular. 22/23 years old Romanian with white skin, no tattoo, a large smile and a splendid breast.

Flori: 20 years old Romanian, slim (almost skinny), white skin with no tattoo. A little too young in the job (blowjob and sex are basic) but she clearly wants to please. I will probably try another time in a few months.

Kendra: 20 years old Romanian, slim, beautiful face, some small tattoo. The pure GFE who wants to connect with you. Very nice tongue kissing and blowjob.

Liv: another regular. 24 years old Romanian, slim and athletic, tall, tattoos everywhere. Was a little off because she had a cold some days ago.

Melissa: another regular. 25 years old Romanian, slim and athletic, 1 m74, some tattoos. One of the best girl in the club, a body to die for and a service always at the top.

Paola: 25+ years old Romanian, very tanned, slim with massive silicon boobs. Not really my type but I wanted to change and it was a very good idea, the best blowjob that I had in the club in the last months.

Zyneb: 24/25 years old half-Romanian half-Turkish, slim. Middle of the road session: nice but nothing spectacular.

I talked to at least 10 other girls, the only one that tried to upsell anything was Laura. All the girls were nice and happy to see so many customers.

[QUOTE=Hyperion2007;2770797]You should come more often in Sharks, almost once a month I go with a 20 years old girl fresh from the bus. Flori, Kendra, Bibi, and the list goes on and on.[/QUOTE]I confirm many new girls at Sharks each week end, new pretty Viki with tattoo around ass on last Friday but 100/30 and telling not kissing, quite standard now at Sharks. Most of girls don t seem so busy except maybe silicon Aylin. At.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2770723]One could argue that the top Sharks girls demanding and receiving 100/30 or even 150/30 are not the blue collar equivalents. The blue collar section of WGs, ie low end commodity, might be available even now for a 30 bucks quickie somewhere.

The top of the pyramid in Coporate America or EU have been taking home most of the loot for a while and now such differential pricing has come to mongerdom. It was always there in other places. High end escorts commanded thousands. But for a while, FKKs provided high enough quality optics, a minimum guaranteed service level at a set price regardless of the girl in the club. That was an anomaly.

Whether they deserved 100% price hike is a moot question. I wish prices and services had remained the same, but wishes don't matter.

There used to be so many more quality girls. I don't know where they all disappeared. Surely word must have reached them about the current prices. But it is the optics, the service levels which are as disappointing as the prices and the haggling although my sample size is extremely small.[/QUOTE]Following Oase girls who fucked Asians busses in 2015/2016, telling 150 in 10 mn to go and back, with 1 baby kiss for 50 and CIM after 2 minutes with no fucking, Sharks girls also play upselling now, but most are really not busy on most of time. I wonder if some make a room, when Monday, Tuesday and Thursday are now almost dead for business.

[QUOTE=Hyperion2007;2770909]It's been so long since a real report here (we are now at almost 10 pages about the prices!) that I will try to post something useful for once.

Last weekend they were a Weihnachtsparty with a special buffet and live-shows announced: the buffet was marginally better than normal and no shows were seen at all. But nobody cares because it was probably the best line-up seen in Sharks this year. More than 100 girls (and that's not a number coming from nowhere, for another forum some men listed the name of almost all the girls present), with a great number of new ones, the most discussed were probably Zoe a German girl and Laura a French one, but for me the most interesting was Flori a 20 years old Romanian arrived Wednesday.


I talked to at least 10 other girls, the only one that tried to upsell anything was Laura. All the girls were nice and happy to see so many customers.[/QUOTE]Lora. FR tell her rate very honestly before going to room, so you can choose and no more money talk in room, all fluent, at least with me, when french hands made beautiful Bugatti worth more expensive than quantity of Sharks average Dacia not even able to kiss like a woman. Nothing exceptionnal for foods on party and even salmon was a bit average, but I like strawberries cake. But I confirm Sharks casting improved and better on Friday than Saturday when no Viki. Ro nor Kasper. De. I wish to repeat with Kasper and would be happy with beautiful, fresh full natural and real GFE.

Frenchie who would be the prettiest at Globe and Aphrodisia, but not more expensive than many Dacia asking 200/60 .

[QUOTE=Hyperion2007;2770192]For the same services (BBBJ) :

Frankfurt: 100/30 in all the clubs.

Stuttgart: 100/30 in all the clubs.

NRW: same prices in Samya, Magnum, Mondial and Oceans but less expensive in the other clubs.

Berlin: 90/30 and 160/60.

The idea that tourists are the reasons for the price rise in Sharks is hilariously wrong.[/QUOTE]Totaly true. For instamce ı am from turkey and since 2018 ı have been to all these clubs especially sharks and artemis.

As if the girls aotumatically ask 100430 in sharks.

Its not because of the sex visitors. Its because of the system as ı see. ı spoke to several girls at sharks: all told me: when a man ask for 50430 ı never speak with him again.

Even romanians do not like 50 euro. Only several of them offers this price.

And as I see: 100430 is the new unwrited rule for sharks.

Yet, the fav club.