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[QUOTE=Mogwai;2303282]Yeah, I'm pretty sure when Dg would set up a meeting with him that he has some bullshit explanation as to why the orphanage in AC didn't get his donation LOL.[/QUOTE]I am more willing to meet with him along with the two nuns he "supposedly" handed the $5000 cash to.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2303299]I am more willing to meet with him along with the two nuns he "supposedly" handed the $5000 cash to.[/QUOTE]No doubt MP roamed around the go go's and had some success but equally true is the reality that he was a fantasist that makes Walter Mitty look like a novice. But so what. He was quite entertaining to read unlike some of the current crop of third person long winded dreamers.
[QUOTE=IMembr;2303232]... Game does not matter as much either. Having "game" in the P4P world is laughable. Go to a club in Los Angeles and pick up an 8+ for free, and you have game. Then again, even a squirrel finds a nut once in a while.
..[/QUOTE]Funny thing about game in the P4P world is we all employ it one way or another without thinking about it too much. In fact, it is directly or indirectly the SUBJECT of most questions and answers about the P4P scene on these boards:
If you refuse to Pay Upfront, that's game.
If you show up at clubs when they are closing on the assumption the girls left over will be more needy, that's game.
If you show up at places like Thermae in Bkk on the 31st of the month, the night before rent is due and you are especially fond of doing it on rainy nights, that's game.
If you walk into a club smiling when in fact you really aren't thinking of anything particularly humorous, that's game.
If you choose an apartment or hotel offering anything more than the most basic requirements for Shit, Shower, Sleep and Sex on the premise that something nicer will impress the ladies or make them feel more comfortable, that's game.
If you so much as crack a joke or try to create a "fun" environment with your targeted girl before hitting her up for a ST, that is not only game it is also courting and kowtowing to the girl.
And on and on.
Actually, if you are every bit as satisfied having sex with 2's vs 10's and if you are every bit as satisfied with covered FS only vs DFK+DATY+BBBJ+BBFS+CIP, then you might as well approach every 2 in the city, counter offer demonstrably less than her initial quote (if any), negotiate nothing else, simply say "Let's go", go-with-the-flow and accept whatever result you get with a smile, you will not only win by your standards a good 99.99% of the time but you will have done so while avoiding as much game as it is possible to avoid, I suppose.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2303320]places like Thermae
If you so much as crack a joke or try to create a "fun" environment with your targeted girl before hitting her up for a ST, that is not only game it is also courting and kowtowing to the girl.
And on and on..[/QUOTE]Once in Thermae, I overheard guys approach a stunner, each of them telling the same lame jokes I had also used. The best part was the music. Magge Mae by Rod Stewart, about an aging hooker who breaks a young guy's heart and drains his bank balance. But he loves her anyway.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD_6KqP7K0g[/URL]
[QUOTE=Siamsin;2303153]
Every single 1 of us has and uses some sort of game whether we know it or not. It's not just what you say to women, but everything about you, before you even say a word. Your demeanor, body language, attire, build, hygiene, multilingualism ability, scent, aura, approach etc. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2303320]Funny thing about game in the P4P world is we all employ it one way or another without thinking about it too much. In fact, it is directly or indirectly the SUBJECT of most questions and answers about the P4P scene on these boards:
If you refuse to Pay Upfront, that's game.
If you show up at clubs when they are closing on the assumption the girls left over will be more needy, that's game.
If you show up at places like Thermae in Bkk on the 31st of the month, the night before rent is due and you are especially fond of doing it on rainy nights, that's game.
If you walk into a club smiling when in fact you really aren't thinking of anything particularly humorous, that's game.
If you choose an apartment or hotel offering anything more than the most basic requirements for Shit, Shower, Sleep and Sex on the premise that something nicer will impress the ladies or make them feel more comfortable, that's game.
If you so much as crack a joke or try to create a "fun" environment with your targeted girl before hitting her up for a ST, that is not only game it is also courting and kowtowing to the girl.
And on and on.
Actually, if you are every bit as satisfied having sex with 2's vs 10's and if you are every bit as satisfied with covered FS only vs DFK+DATY+BBBJ+BBFS+CIP, then you might as well approach every 2 in the city, counter offer demonstrably less than her initial quote (if any), negotiate nothing else, simply say "Let's go", go-with-the-flow and accept whatever result you get with a smile, you will not only win by your standards a good 99.99% of the time but you will have done so while avoiding as much game as it is possible to avoid, I suppose.[/QUOTE]Exactly my point Tooms, agree 100%.
[QUOTE=Siamsin;2303340]Exactly my point Tooms, agree 100%.[/QUOTE]I call it negotiation, when I fuck a hooker, I negociate the service. If you are good at negotiation, you pay less for better service. Game is used when you fuck a girl expecting nothing from you but just fun and pleasure.
I fuck regular girls and professional girls, there is a big difference between negotiation and game.
[QUOTE=MongerForSex;2303343]I call it negotiation, when I fuck a hooker, I negociate the service. If you are good at negotiation, you pay less for better service. Game is used when you fuck a girl expecting nothing from you but just fun and pleasure.
I fuck regular girls and professional girls, there is a big difference between negotiation and game.[/QUOTE]I get your point, but that depends on the environment of your pickup. Walking up to a street hooker and propositioning her for sex and negotiating the rate is exactly that, a negotiation. Street meat is usually up to 5's and 6's if anything anyway.
Trying to pull that approach on an 8, 9 or 10 in Thermae, Freelance clubs and Gogo's is a recipe for failure. You'll probably get shutdown more times than you can count. In these type of establishments jumping straight to negotiations without some form of rapport building and encouraging the girl that you're someone that she'll actually have a good time with, will lead to failure or a costly affair or terrible performance especially with the top girls. It's actually very logical, the hottest girls get the most enquiries from punters willing to pay their rate. Don't you think that they are also selective as to who they go with?
Like it has already been mentioned, if it was a purely negotiation based industry, everyone would be walking around with 8's, 9's and 10's. There has to be some element for consistently pulling top girls, and that element is your Game.
[QUOTE=Siamsin;2303352]Like it has already been mentioned, if it was a purely negotiation based industry, everyone would be walking around with 8's, 9's and 10's. There has to be some element for consistently pulling top girls, and that element is your Game.[/QUOTE]Buying a car is a purely negotiation based industry, yet you do not see everyone driving around in a Mercedes or Lexus. Just like P4P, if you walk in the door with enough money, anyone can get one. The problem is that you assume everyone wants one. Bill Gates is one of the richest men in the world, yet he drives around in a Toyota Prius or Ford pickup truck or something. Maybe he doesn't have enough game for them to sell him one of the luxury cars.
It is PAY for play, not game for play. Again, there is no need to weasel (or game) someone into YOU PAYING for their goods or services. That sounds ridiculous.
[QUOTE=Siamsin;2303352]I get your point, but that depends on the environment of your pickup. Walking up to a street hooker and propositioning her for sex and negotiating the rate is exactly that, a negotiation. Street meat is usually up to 5's and 6's if anything anyway.
Trying to pull that approach on an 8, 9 or 10 in Thermae, Freelance clubs and Gogo's is a recipe for failure. You'll probably get shutdown more times than you can count. In these type of establishments jumping straight to negotiations without some form of rapport building and encouraging the girl that you're someone that she'll actually have a good time with, will lead to failure or a costly affair or terrible performance especially with the top girls. It's actually very logical, the hottest girls get the most enquiries from punters willing to pay their rate. Don't you think that they are also selective as to who they go with?
Like it has already been mentioned, if it was a purely negotiation based industry, everyone would be walking around with 8's, 9's and 10's. There has to be some element for consistently pulling top girls, and that element is your Game.[/QUOTE]There are also brothels in Brazil, I always build rapport when I fuck hooker but I still have to pay so I call it negotiation, pay for service or pay for play like Mr E said. To me, it's not game. As a medical professional, my clients build rapport but I still expect them to pay me. When you have a better rapport with your doctor, he treats you better like in every business (restaurant, hotel etc), the same happens to hooker, if your rapport is better, the hooker treats you better.
[QUOTE=MongerForSex;2303363]There are also brothels in Brazil, I always build rapport when I fuck hooker but I still have to pay [/QUOTE]Many would say that Centaurus has the best looking girls in Rio. 8's, 9's, 10's. I think they made a big deal about Justin Beiber going there or something. Centaurus is a brothel where there is a certain price to be paid for the girls. When was the last time a chick in there turned a guy down from going upstairs to the room with him because he had the 500 reais or whatever it costs, but he had no game? Whether they are a 2 or a 10, hookers work for money, not for game.
[QUOTE=Siamsin;2303352]
Like it has already been mentioned, if it was a purely negotiation based industry, everyone would be walking around with 8's, 9's and 10's. [/QUOTE]Except that there are not enough 8's, 9's and 10's available for all the punters.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2303364]Many would say that Centaurus has the best looking girls in Rio. 8's, 9's, 10's. I think they made a big deal about Justin Beiber going there or something. Centaurus is a brothel where there is a certain price to be paid for the girls. When was the last time a chick in there turned a guy down from going upstairs to the room with him because he had the 500 reais or whatever it costs, but he had no game? Whether they are a 2 or a 10, hookers work for money, not for game.[/QUOTE]We get it Mr E. Hookers work for money. What doesn't follow from that is that in demand girls will follow whoever puts down what she's asking for her. If she has choices which the so called 8's up have you will need something more than her fee to attract her. It may be looks / appearance, personality / humor, future sponsor potential and even this so called game whatever that may be. They may be lowly hookers in your estimation but they are also independent free willed individuals with choices.
[QUOTE=DCups;2303115]Never met the guy but he did refer me to the "legendary" Claire, Miss Bottoms Contest Winner in Makati which I am grateful for. I think I would have enjoyed having San Migs with him. I, too, have ruffled some feathers on this board. Jackson even erased like a thousand of my posts (many of which were simply requests for big boob sightings and contact info haha). I'm still being moderated for reasons that have long since expired. But it's OK. I try to not be too abrasive to the offenders or just plain wrong posters but sometimes you got to do what you got to do. Anyway I think I've been on ISG for over 10 years now, made some friends and got a lot of great information on not just big boob sightings but taxis, hotels, airports, weather, etc. Really, the subscription has paid for itself many times over and I thank Jackson for not kicking me out permanently.[/QUOTE]I misspoke. It was Engine Driver not Monkey Paw that introduced me to Claire. Thanks, buddy.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2303364]Many would say that Centaurus has the best looking girls in Rio. 8's, 9's, 10's. I think they made a big deal about Justin Beiber going there or something. Centaurus is a brothel where there is a certain price to be paid for the girls. When was the last time a chick in there turned a guy down from going upstairs to the room with him because he had the 500 reais or whatever it costs, but he had no game? Whether they are a 2 or a 10, hookers work for money, not for game.[/QUOTE]I haven't been to Centaurius for a long time, I don't like it. I prefer solarium 4 by4 and other termas. In the termas, you don't negotiate the price but you negotiate the service. We can build rapport easily but a hooker is a hooker. 2's,3's,7's or 10's mean nothing, because we are all differents and we love women differently. As you stated, 10's women won't be chosen by everybody because they are not 10's for everybody. I have never been to Thailand but what I know a hooker is a hooker, they expect me to pay them.
[QUOTE=MongerForSex;2303405]I have never been to Thailand but ... [/QUOTE]This makes me a little curious, are you planning to go to Thailand anytime soon or at some other point in the future? I see that you are active in the Thailand and Pattaya threads so I guess that you have a wish to go to Thailand. If you ask me I would say that you should go by any means because it is so great there!
I just came back from a one month trip to Pattaya and it was so much fun. Some years ago I never thought that I would go but a friend of mine convinced me and it was the best thing that he could do. I know some guys (mongers) that I got to know in Rio de Janeiro that still hasn't been to Thailand and they are already in their early 60's. I am trying to convince them to go because I know that they will not regret going to Thailand / Pattaya.