FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[QUOTE=Canary;2771847]I appreciate this is a question talked about every year, when do most of the girls return in the new year?

My plan is to return in March when the weather improves although there is a possibility I might make a brief visit during the later part of the second week in January.

Have any of the ladies mentioned when they are planning to return?

Brenda finished as early as November and wasn't planning to return until February.

During my last visit on 1st December several girls were already prepared to leave for their country, some the following weekend 3/4 December.

Sharks has the highest amount of girls at any club in Germany but since the end of the pandemic not only have the prices increased but the quality of service is not always guaranteed as before. With this in mind clever selection is required so if there are are a vastly reduced number of girls in mid January it may well make March a better option to start off in 2023.[/QUOTE]My understanding is that a lot return just before or at the end of Jan when most guys get their first wages of the new year.

[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2771687]Can anyone tell me if Desiree (I think that how she spells it) has come back to Sharks since being absent for most of November?

She's black, speaks French, large silicon, usually sites in the back near the bathroom entrance on the round couch.

She was gone for the second half of October and the first half of November.

Just seeing if she has come back?[/QUOTE]A black with silicon, Madonna by Jean Paul Gaultier shape, seen today. Minus 7 degrees when I arrived at 10 am, ice on swimming pool water and in garden. Good music on day: Toto hold the line with brothers Porcaro, David Paich and Steve Lukather for breakfast, real pleasure, then Visage with Steve Strange and Midge Ure fade to grey, Midge Ure / Ultravox dancing with tears in my eyes, great Fleetwood Mac with Stevie Nicks little lies and Roxette for a song for me: sleeping in my car. On evening, usual shit music. After driving from Ventoux climbing on Saturday, on previous night, back home on this night. When Kasper. De is a real Kasper, most attractive was fresh natural Kriss. Bg coming from Artemis, but not kissing, I confirm all girls don t worth same rate, about look and quality, I prefer to pay 200/60 and get high quality. 0 room when no frenchie nor Kasper.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2771597]Well, it would take a while for pricing to attract new talent if new ones were to come.[/QUOTE]The line-up of Sharks since this summer is precisely the proof that the pricing attracted new talent already.

When you have a club with between 80 and 100 girls every weekend, and all the other clubs around it struggle to find 30 girls, it's not difficult to see where it comes from.

[QUOTE=Hyperion2007;2772047]The line-up of Sharks since this summer is precisely the proof that the pricing attracted new talent already.

When you have a club with between 80 and 100 girls every weekend, and all the other clubs around it struggle to find 30 girls, it's not difficult to see where it comes from.[/QUOTE]Here's the question. Sharks is not the only club where average rate is 100 for 30. Why has Oase / MH / Palace not attracted the new talent? Or is that just going to be a delayed effect?

I don't think 100/30 can hold if more new girls keep coming. Hopefully they keep coming being attracted by the 100 price and then true market rate settles back down to 60-75.

[QUOTE=Hyperion2007;2772047]The line-up of Sharks since this summer is precisely the proof that the pricing attracted new talent already.

When you have a club with between 80 and 100 girls every weekend, and all the other clubs around it struggle to find 30 girls, it's not difficult to see where it comes from.[/QUOTE]Yes, almost free rates now at Sharks attract girls, but problem is potential of clients who can afford to pay, making quite slow business for many girls. Sharks is quite dead business on Monday, Tuesday and Thursday and slow on week end before 2 pm and after 1 am. For me, when all girls don't worth same rate, according to their look and way for sex, for 100/30 or 150/200/60, I will go only with wow for me. My 2 girls found are higher level than Ukrainian escort met in Paris on last week. Wish to repeat with both Sharks GFE beauties who are on my quality standard.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2772118]Here's the question. Sharks is not the only club where average rate is 100 for 30. Why has Oase / MH / Palace not attracted the new talent? Or is that just going to be a delayed effect?[/QUOTE]The 50/30 is still living in those clubs from a fair amount of girls but with CBJ only. At Mainhattan all the girls still do 50/30 CBJ.

I have already said months ago, but some people who comes once in a blue moon in Sharks still doesn't believe it, the vast majority of the regulars in Sharks have accepted the new prices and live quite well with them.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2772118]... true market rate ...[/QUOTE]There is no such thing.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2772118]Here's the question. Sharks is not the only club where average rate is 100 for 30. Why has Oase / MH / Palace not attracted the new talent? Or is that just going to be a delayed effect?

I don't think 100/30 can hold if more new girls keep coming. Hopefully they keep coming being attracted by the 100 price and then true market rate settles back down to 60-75.[/QUOTE]Less tourists at Mainhattan. GFE at Sharks is more often 150/30 than 100 now, or 100 and not kissing like pretty, full natural with no tattoo Krissy. Bg. Such expensive, even with many not pretty.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2772118]Here's the question. Sharks is not the only club where average rate is 100 for 30. Why has Oase / MH / Palace not attracted the new talent? Or is that just going to be a delayed effect?

I don't think 100/30 can hold if more new girls keep coming. Hopefully they keep coming being attracted by the 100 price and then true market rate settles back down to 60-75.[/QUOTE]I think you're living in dream land if you think the rates are going to 'settle back down'. 100/30 and 150/60 is here to stay.

[QUOTE=Abox79;2772177]I think you're living in dream land if you think the rates are going to 'settle back down'. 100/30 and 150/60 is here to stay.[/QUOTE]If only reading this forum, you would think that 100 for 30 is the standard FKK price but reality is that price is only standard at about 4 Frankfurt clubs, a couple Stuttgart clubs, and some clubs in Munich. At the other 90 something FKKs in Germany, 100 for 30 is not the firm price. If it holds in Frankfurt, so be it. Most of the rest of the FKKs will certainly not support 100 for 30. Germans just aren't able to spend that much and not enough tourist come to a boring German finance city to support that price.

[QUOTE=Hyperion2007;2772172]There is no such thing.[/QUOTE]There's always a true market rate. It's just not overtly published or defined, nor always findable at a single club. Sharks and Frankfurt l, nor the writings on this forum do not represent all of FKK reality.

[QUOTE=Hyperion2007;2772172]The 50/30 is still living in those clubs from a fair amount of girls but with CBJ only. At Mainhattan all the girls still do 50/30 CBJ.

I have already said months ago, but some people who comes once in a blue moon in Sharks still doesn't believe it, the vast majority of the regulars in Sharks have accepted the new prices and live quite well with them.

There is no such thing.[/QUOTE]I confirm after lockdown under which they went to apartments, then Germans pay new rates, some even booking girls in the club for the day for more than 1000 to 1500 . Rate won t fall, girls prefer to sit waiting for hours. 100/30 won t even always give You a wow beauty nor full GFE with real French kissing many girls are not able for or ask extra more. Times changed compare to reopening on 2021 with almost no tourists. Now, very few girls for 100/60 , but not the worst ones, one high level at Mainhattan.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2771843]Seems like odd logic in tourist scapegoating when claiming they are cheap yet flaunt money to cause the overpayment of women. Similarly, when no sex tourist visit Munich, Hamburg, or Stuttgart yet those having been the most expensive FKK destinations in Germany for years.[/QUOTE]Hamburg Atmos and Harmony were always more expensive and even before new law, covid and same for Artemis. Palace Stuttgart was always to try to fuck tourists. Girls know easier to get more expensive from tourists, but at Sharks, they know now Germans and locals also pay their increased rate. Only not paying are Turkish who don t need 30 mn as they say, or Romanian guys, or most Balkanians. I remember at Oase, before new law and covid, how girls fucked busses of Asians for 150/ less than 15 mn with just a baby kiss and no fucking, but sometimes CIM in condom as we heard some telling. New law with forbidden BBBJ and kissing on 1 July 2017, didn't change anything until 2020, but lockdown under covid prepared a new economy in FKK land, even Gold, Penelope, Prime, sc Venus keep 40 or 50 per 30 mn. Even at Globe, they increased rate when falling quality for looks and real GFE, not fake robots just following rules. My 2 new Sharks girls are on far higher level for less expensive.

[QUOTE=Abox79;2772177]I think you're living in dream land if you think the rates are going to 'settle back down'. 100/30 and 150/60 is here to stay.[/QUOTE]True but I wish it were really 150/60.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2772408]True but I wish it were really 150/60.[/QUOTE]100/30 and 150/60 don t include real french kisses for many girls, but just for BBBJ. Many ask extra for kissing, not sure they are really able and many are not even pretty, even Sharks casting improved for looks since November, now higher looks level on end of this year than at Globe and Wellcum, when some fresh natural beauties, but not so many pretty girls. 20 yo full natural frenchie, my German Kasper, Kity, Katalea without heavy make up, Krissi. Bg, Viki. Ro, Teodora, Zoe. De is not bad look, for fresh natural beauties.

What does the lineup look like right now? Stuck in Europe over NYE and am wondering if it's worth taking a detour to Frankfurt. Would go somewhere around the 29th-30th most probably. Worth it?