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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2772775]How many A team? Or those who didn t make enough business and upsell to make money they couldn t make on normal days. To avoid Sylvester party if You need quality, except if your favorite is working.[/QUOTE]Last Sunday there were about 80 girls. Roxi, Cataleya, Lara, Zoë... and Sylvana.
Hey guys is the average price at Sharks 200/60 or 150/60?
[QUOTE=Turgid;2773020]Hey guys is the average price at Sharks 200/60 or 150/60?[/QUOTE]150/60 for the vast majority.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2773020]Hey guys is the average price at Sharks 200/60 or 150/60?[/QUOTE]Only tourist driving from 5 hours away pay 200 euro for 60.
[QUOTE=SobeLizard;2772768]Girls working at the clubs will vary in price. You don't have to pay what the other person is paying.
It's like die tankstelle (gas station) in your neighborhood. Some people are lazy to drive further distance to get cheaper gas and they pay a higher price at die tankstelle. Some fine tankstelle at a better price but find it worthwhile to travel a little further distance because they get more value.
There is no rule that requires girls to charge the same price for everyone. They vary their rates based on customer. It is your ability to negotiate a deal. Imagine going online to purchase your hotel, airline ticket. Every online website will provide you a different price that's why we shop. That's why we negotiate. That's why winners will get the low price.
You have to be prepared to walk away from the deal.
The good old days of standard pricing is no longer in effect today.
The New order is to negotiate, negotiate, negotiate, negotiate, and tell her to go fuck herself if you are a real man.
50/30 and 100/60 minutes is Alive. Are you man enough to get it. Maybe tourists are Simp.[/QUOTE]Equating the procurement of pussy to the purchase of petrol makes no sense at all. Petrol has but one purpose, which is to power our vehicles to allow us to go from point A to point Z. We don't care what it looks like. We don't care whether it smells nice and is sanitary. We're not concerned about whether or not we "click" with it. It doesn't have to appeal to any of our emotional needs and nor does petrol itself have needs to which we must be attuned. When we stop and consider these realities (and many others) we quickly begin to realize that the seemingly straightforward task of selecting someone who we might want to have sex with actually isn't so simple after all, especially when you put paying for it into the mix. And it's definitely more complicated than filling up your tank on gas, as well as paying for many other types of goods and services where the need being fulfilled is of less a personal nature. For these reasons selecting a sex partner is not an endeavor suited to being compared to buying a tank of regular, plus, or premium LOL! That's apparent from even a modicum of sophisticated thinking and reflection.
[QUOTE=Mechelen;2772960]Last Sunday there were about 80 girls. Roxi, Cataleya, Lara, Zo... and Sylvana.[/QUOTE]And MILF Andrea. Ro ex Bruggen, but how many A team girls on last Sylvester?
[QUOTE=Turgid;2773020]Hey guys is the average price at Sharks 200/60 or 150/60?[/QUOTE]100/30 and 150/60 for average looks, most not french kissing, so just suck and fuck with a average look, so I prefer 200/60 which is same than 100/30 but with prettier and with french kissing I need so much to enjoy sex, from my standard for sex experienced for decades. I prefer quality than quantity, when I don't see much more than 6 attractive at Sharks, Kity being low level for sex, Krissi and Viki telling not kissing, but my 2 new full natural and GFE are good for me and I don't need more.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2773036]Equating the procurement of pussy to the purchase of petrol makes no sense at all. Petrol has but one purpose, which is to power our vehicles to allow us to go from point A to point Z. We don't care what it looks like. We don't care whether it smells nice and is sanitary. We're not concerned about whether or not we "click" with it. It doesn't have to appeal to any of our emotional needs and nor does petrol itself have needs to which we must be attuned. When we stop and consider these realities (and many others) we quickly begin to realize that the seemingly straightforward task of selecting someone who we might want to have sex with actually isn't so simple after all, especially when you put paying for it into the mix. And it's definitely more complicated than filling up your tank on gas, as well as paying for many other types of goods and services where the need being fulfilled is of less a personal nature. For these reasons selecting a sex partner is not an endeavor suited to being compared to buying a tank of regular, plus, or premium LOL! That's apparent from even a modicum of sophisticated thinking and reflection.[/QUOTE]I feel hard filling V8 with french bioethanol E85 for less than 50 € and saving planet. 0,77/ l in Huningue close to Basel. Less than 0,11 €/ km for around 410 P.S. At the moment, before cleaning inside admission. With money saved, I can buy rare quality at Sharks when I will never pay 100/30 for many average looks or when not able to kiss like a woman, not my model for sex I only enjoy, when I remember kissing for hours in real life, best way to judge how a girl behave with You.
[QUOTE=SobeLizard;2772768]It's like die tankstelle (gas station) in your neighborhood. Some people are lazy to drive further distance to get cheaper gas and they pay a higher price at die tankstelle. Some fine tankstelle at a better price but find it worthwhile to travel a little further distance because they get more value.
There is no rule that requires girls to charge the same price for everyone. They vary their rates based on customer. It is your ability to negotiate a deal. Imagine going online to purchase your hotel, airline ticket. Every online website will provide you a different price that's why we shop. That's why we negotiate. That's why winners will get the low price.[/QUOTE]Here is a petrol price comparison site that accepts postal codes: [URL]https://www.clever-tanken.de/tankstelle_liste?lat=49.859083583712&lon=8.6371938268845&ort=64295[/URL]+Darmstadt%2 FDarmstadt-West&spritsorte=3&are=5.
Within the city of Darmstadt, the most you can save by shopping around is about 8 cents per liter. Which is less than 5 percent discount. Most of the time people will be filling up when they are at half a tank (roughly 25-30 liters). Does it really make sense to drive across town (potentially in a traffic jam) to save 2-3 EUR?
I know many mongers avoid fueling up at a station directly on Autobahn (where markup could easily be a 15-20 percent).
Airfare analogy is much better. An economy airfare between NYC and Frankfurt can be anywhere from $300 to over a $1000. In that case, it makes sense to shop around.
[QUOTE=SobeLizard;2772768]You have to be prepared to walk away from the deal.
[/QUOTE]Agree, harder said than done but agree. But this is a long game, that sometimes needs to be played out over weeks and months. Or pay the inflated price the first time but refuse to repeat until she brings her price down. In the meantime, one can shop around, and maybe even find another WG they like better.
[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2769053]Most locals are forced to pay these prices now after resisting for many years, it all started 5-6 years ago with the stupid tourists acting like [B]simps[/B] with their excessive tipping. Mainland Europeans barely tip, so again, it's a typically dumb tourists thing.
[URL]https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Simp[/URL][/QUOTE]Not disputing fly-in SIMP tourists who started it 5-6 years ago. But locals, and drive-in mongers can be simps too.
As mongers enter their 50's, life circumstances seem to cause the decision matrix to change, with regards to mongering budget. A highly-educated, white-collar professional Western European monger recently told me that he consciously accelerated his spending once he entered his early 50's and realised that he probably would not be having children. He reasoned that he has saved enough over his working life and he need not worry about his retirement (only has one sibling and his ageing parents will leave him some inheritance). He also realised that he may only have 15-20 years left in his mongering career, so he might as well enjoy it while he still has the libido.
Above monger is always in a good mood, smiling and jovial. Other mongers in his age group are struggling with other issues that could jeopardise their mental health (nasty divorce, estranged children, health issues). Such men may be battling depression, making them more vulnerable to falling for WGs and being their personal ATMs.
How many older men retire to Thailand who have wives younger than their granddaughters? I would say this age 50-70 demographic is when men become the most generous with their money aka SIMPs.
Also late night younger Turkish men may not take many rooms or come regularly, but they comprise maybe the largest number of paid entries on any given day. They choose to not always use up the full 30 minutes. Judging by their cars and jewelry, we can say they generally are more flashy and showy with their spending. Whether it be with their own friends, WGs or complete strangers, they do not like to appear "cheap" or "poor". In fact, the Romanian word for tip is "bacsis" which is a loanword from the Turkish language. Same exact pronunciation (different spelling).
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2773135]100/30 and 150/60 for average looks, most not french kissing, so just suck and fuck with a average look, so I prefer 200/60 which is same than 100/30 but with prettier and with french kissing I need so much to enjoy sex, from my standard for sex experienced for decades. I prefer quality than quantity, when I don't see much more than 6 attractive at Sharks, Kity being low level for sex, Krissi and Viki telling not kissing, but my 2 new full natural and GFE are good for me and I don't need more.[/QUOTE]In all my visits to Sharks up to March, 2020 no girls no matter how hot they were ever asked me for more than the going rate at the time which was 50/30 and 100/60 for sessions without anal or CIM. What some of the hottest girls used to say to me was that they did not do 30 minute sessions so I had to go with them for 100/60.
I am glad to know that the general price is 150/60 which means that I may consider a return to FKKs sometime in 2023.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2773036]Equating the procurement of pussy to the purchase of petrol makes no sense at all. Petrol has but one purpose, which is to power our vehicles to allow us to go from point A to point Z. We don't care what it looks like. We don't care whether it smells nice and is sanitary. We're not concerned about whether or not we "click" with it. It doesn't have to appeal to any of our emotional needs and nor does petrol itself have needs to which we must be attuned. When we stop and consider these realities (and many others) we quickly begin to realize that the seemingly straightforward task of selecting someone who we might want to have sex with actually isn't so simple after all, especially when you put paying for it into the mix. And it's definitely more complicated than filling up your tank on gas, as well as paying for many other types of goods and services where the need being fulfilled is of less a personal nature. For these reasons selecting a sex partner is not an endeavor suited to being compared to buying a tank of regular, plus, or premium LOL! That's apparent from even a modicum of sophisticated thinking and reflection.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Turgid;2773316]In all my visits to Sharks up to March, 2020 no girls no matter how hot they were ever asked me for more than the going rate at the time which was 50/30 and 100/60 for sessions without anal or CIM. What some of the hottest girls used to say to me was that they did not do 30 minute sessions so I had to go with them for 100/60.
I am glad to know that the general price is 150/60 which means that I may consider a return to FKKs sometime in 2023.[/QUOTE]You should not get the prettiest for 150/60 which is on 2022. Let s see on 2023. Yes, on 2020, except Melissa who had more fresh face, 100/60 was standard and even on last year when I had many rooms with FK, DATY, BBBJ with the most elegant, but same inflation than in Argentina on 2022.
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I am glad to know that the general price is 150/60 which means that I may consider a return to FKKs sometime in 2023.[/QUOTE]In my Experience, some girls try to leave the room as soon as you finish, even if its just 35 minutes or 40 minutes. So its not guaranteed to stay 60 minutes.
So if you don't know the girl, 100/30 minute is the better option, if you like to spend more time with her you can do second room longer.
All the tourists pay more thinking that they will get more.
How much more service or makeup did she put on? Did you get more by paying €100 more?
I want to know did anything change?
The reason you have to pay more is because she opened her eyes and realize how ugly you are.
The fatter you are, the balder you are, the shorter you are, the stupid you are.
No matter how much money you're going to spend, you're going to get the same service because she simply just doesn't like you.
If you have to pay more it's you, and not me.
Life is not fair but you can always get Donatella 50 for 30 minutes.
You are 70 years old and she is 60 years old.
Hey at all.
Started PaySex at the end of 2017 after 2 long relationships with apart / hotel / bordello dates for about 3 years. The idea to visit a club I have not yet come at that time. Reading and writing about my experiences in German forums, I then thought to myself: "Try it out". That was in the spring of 2021. And I did. And I like it very much, yeahhh!
In summer I'm only in the clubs (I visited all known clubs in Hessen), I prefer warm weather, sun and blue sky, spend most of the time outside with a colleague, not inside. In winter I visit the "Laufhäuser" (walking houses) in Frankfurt and sometimes I have a date in an apartment / hotel / brothel in Frankfurt or Rhein Main area.
I visited the Sharks for the first time at the beginning of August 2021. And was there weekly until the beginning of September, I didn't visit the other clubs anymore. I ride my bike from the south of Frankfurt within 30 min to "Paradise". I don't know any parking problems.
I prefer 50/30 and "BFT" (blowjob, fuck, touch incl. Tits licking), I do not do any unprotected sex for my safety and I am not interested in any "extras". Sometimes I take 100/30 "full service" but never 150/60, I am satisfied with half an hour.
Enough with the introduction. Here are my 5 rooms at Sharks from last summer:
Katalina, RO (Romania)*.
Age 29 years, 165 cm, about 50 kg, skin tanned, hair blonde / long / straight, eyes brown, A-cups tight and natural, very pretty face, model body with clothing size 34, tight ass and flat stomach, very nice teeth.
100/30 full service incl. French kisses, licking and fingering. Her place is at the entrance, right on the sofa behind the dance bar, under the TV. For me a dream girl.
Lilly, GH (Ghana).
Age mid 20's, 175 cm, about 55 kg, skin jet black, hair jet black / long / slightly wavy, eyes deep brown, be-cups firm and natural, pretty face, firm body with clothing size 34/36, tight ass and flat stomach, nice teeth.
100/30 full service incl. French kissing, licking and fingering. Her place is behind the bar on the "rondel". A pretty girl, for me a "must have".
Madeleine, RO (Romania).
Age late 20's, 172 cm, about 57 kg, fair skin, hair black / shoulder length / straight - "Cleopatra" style, eyes brown, see-cups made of silicone and haptic grip, pretty face, firm body, belly and ass with clothing size 36, nice teeth.
50/30 BFT, I had 2 rooms with her in one day. Her place is to the right of the entrance on the back couch at the end of the hall. A pretty girl.
Alina, MD (Moldova).
Age late 20's, 165 cm, about 50 kg, skin light tanned, blonde / shoulder length / straight, eyes brown, be / see cups natural and firm, very pretty face, very pretty girl with slim firm body and clothing size 34, nice teeth.
50/30 BFT. Her place is on the top right behind the bar, sitting on the bottom left from the gallery in front of the game table. Beautiful girl.
Sabrina, MD (Moldova).
Age late 20's, 175 cm, about 52 kg, skin medium, blonde / shoulder length / straight, eyes green, be cups natural and firm, very pretty face, very pretty girl with slim firm body and clothing size 34, nice teeth.
50/30 BFT. Her place is up right behind the bar, sitting left of the gallery in front of the game table. Beautiful girl.
All rooms were fine, no time pressure and the girls kept the previously discussed arrangements, good service, open minded and sexy atmosphere. There are some other girls offering 50/30, I read that in a German forum, but most take 100/30 or 150/60 to Corona, that is correct. I'm waiting for the 2023 season opening outside, but maybe I'll be at Sharks in a week on New Year's Eve.
Cheers!