Safe Sex and Sex Related Discussions in Thailand

[QUOTE=BadDuck;2370647]Visited Snow White In Bangkok today. Met a plump Thai girl called "yarakat" or something that sounds like that. She did the usual. Massage and playing around. She was quite mechanical if you ask me but I wasn't complaining. She put on the condom. Rode me. She got tired and I decided to do doggy. While in the doggy, I slipped out. The condom was ok. Then I don't know if I entered her vagina or anus. It just went in. Came in 2 minutes. Pulled out and saw that the condom had broken.

Totally freaked out. Washed up. Peed whatever I could.

Didn't SW have an HIV scare? Substandard condoms.

I'm trying to keep calm. But I know I'm stressing out too.

I'the really appreciate some help on what to do.[/QUOTE]No big deal pal. No need to freak out. HIV almost impossible to catch (extremely unlikely), so other common STDs are more possible. Treatable. So look for discharge, Chancre etc. , if nothing, don't worry. Maybe don't fuck your wife for a few days until seems all clear if very worried. Re HIV, no rush to do anything at all about it, since chances are so remote. I just get a test once in a while to be able to show to girls if they want to see it. E. g. Every 3 months at Red Cross.

Azithromycin preventative is possible against Chlamydia as example, so like treating it even you have not got it. Similarly for Gonorrhea can take an antibiotic. If me, I would not bother with no symptoms (better to be tested first) since I know antibiotics stuff up my gut digestive system. I prefer not to take antibiotics unless absolutely necessary, even give bad belly time to clear up by itself before taking drastic treatments.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2372394]No big deal pal. No need to freak out. HIV almost impossible to catch (extremely unlikely), so other common STDs are more possible. Treatable. So look for discharge, Chancre etc. , if nothing, don't worry. Maybe don't fuck your wife for a few days until seems all clear if very worried. Re HIV, no rush to do anything at all about it, since chances are so remote. I just get a test once in a while to be able to show to girls if they want to see it. E. g. Every 3 months at Red Cross.

Azithromycin preventative is possible against Chlamydia as example, so like treating it even you have not got it. Similarly for Gonorrhea can take an antibiotic. If me, I would not bother with no symptoms (better to be tested first) since I know antibiotics stuff up my gut digestive system. I prefer not to take antibiotics unless absolutely necessary, even give bad belly time to clear up by itself before taking drastic treatments.[/QUOTE]No oral antibiotic has been recommended for gonorrhea for many many years, especially in Asia. Because they don't work anymore. The current recommended treatment for gonorrhea is ceftriaxone via injection. The dose is 125 MG in North America though in the Asia Pacific region 250 MG - 1 g is given.

Few qualified physicians would give such medication to an asymptomatic person in any event.

HIV is not "impossible to catch" by any means. You can ask any of the 40 million people living with the disease, including 500,000 in Thailand.

You can get post exposure prophylaxis in Bangkok. You take it orally for 30 days and it greatly reduces any risk of HIV exposure.

[QUOTE]You're clearly panicking. Taking antibiotics without knowing whether you need them is not a good idea. You might develop resistance. [/QUOTE]Agreed that you shouldn't take antibiotics randomly, though many people do it in Thailand.

But you can't develop resistance to antibiotics. Bacteria can and does develop resistance. People cannot.

I have a question. If we catch syphilis or hepatitis see.

When you go to the std clinic, If I understand well, you still test positive for treponemal tests even after treatment. They use trepsure anti treponema EIA to test syphilis, they stopped using non treponemal tests as first tests. What if a person was infected with syphilis in the past. How they will know they were infected in the past or reinfected?

I also heard we stay positive for HepatitisC after adequate treatment. How they will know if someone was infected in the past or reinfected?

Anyone who was infected with Syphilis or Hepatitis see can share their experience on blood tests or any medical professional in here?

[QUOTE=RickRock;2372469]The dose is 125 MG in North America though in the Asia Pacific region 250 MG - 1 g is given.
[/QUOTE]Why is that dose so different? Different strains of the bacteria? More resistant in this region?

[QUOTE]
HIV is not "impossible to catch" by any means. You can ask any of the 40 million people living with the disease, including 500,000 in Thailand.
[/QUOTE]Yeh not impossible but incredibly unlikely. We are far better off worrying about cancer, heart disease, being killed in a traffic accident, exploding mobile phones, being struck by lightning, being eaten by crocodiles or sharks, Cobra bite, bombs, fire in the Hotel, semi-military snipers, drowning, or even Tsunamis, etc.The numbers don't mean much when we don't have a break down of the method they caught it (which is often not known for certain).

E. g. Hemophiliacs, shared needle, other drug users, ass fuckers, etc.

Risk from a single hetero sex act (in pussy) is believed to be extremely small for a guy. Such that Monger for Sex reckons he never saw a case (sorry if I interpreted him wrong).

Its the social disgrace from STDs that is really so frightening, right? HIV prophlaxis after the event sounds silly to me except in special circumstances, e.g. stuck with a syringe known to contain HIV (or possibly). There are those that are really at high risk, and then all the large number of very worried.

Just my opinions. Think of how difficult it was for HIV children to be in a community early in the HIV scare. HIV people don't have to be considered a danger in normal life. An Indonesian gay that used to cut my hair many years ago died of Aids. Big deal, no need to be scared of him had I known anything in advance.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2372549]Why is that dose so different? Different strains of the bacteria? More resistant in this region?[/QUOTE]Resistance in gonorrhea has historically emerged in Asia and migrated to the rest of the world. Australia and New Zealand are up to 500 MG. Japan where super gonorrhea was first reported recommends a full gram. Some knowledgeable physicians in Bangkok actually dose even higher when gonorrhea presents in their patients.

"Notably, particularly in Asia many strains with a ceftriaxone MIC = 0.25 mg/L, i.e. ceftriaxone resistant according to the European resistance breakpoints, which lack a mosaic PBP2 are also circulating. E.g., gonococcal strains with ceftriaxone MIC = 0.25 mg/L and non-mosaic PBP2s have been described in China, South Korea (PBP2 IV and V with G542S, and XIII with A501TV and P551S), and Vietnam (PBP2 XVIII with A501T and G542S [51])." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4546108/

"The New Zealand Sexual Health Society has recently changed its recommendation for gonorrhoea treatment from 250 mg ceftriaxone IM stat (in 2009), to 500mg IM stat (in 2012), given with azithromycin 1 g stat to cover concurrent chlamydia infection. This increase in dose has been recommended to overcome emerging resistance of Neisseria gonorrhoeae to cephalosporins. It should be noted that although the relevant subsidy requirement for ceftriaxone is “treatment of confirmed ciprofloxacin-resistant gonorrhoea”, the prevalence of ciprofloxacin resistance is as high as 54% in some areas in New Zealand" https://bpac.org.nz/BPJ/2012/november/docs/bpj_48_correspondence_pages_44-45.pdf

" Resistance to fluoroquinolone was widespread in countries and areas in the Western Pacific Region by the 1990's. More recently, ceftriaxone-resistant strains of and. Gonorrhoeae have been reported in Japan and Australia, and globally there have been increasing reports of and. Gonorrhoeae resistance to azithromycin. The H041 strain of and. Gonorrhoeae that is resistant to extended spectrum cephalosporins was isolated in Japan in 2009, and the genetically similar A8806 strain was identified in Australia in 2013. Today, ciprofloxacin and penicillin resistance is widespread in most countries and areas in the Western Pacific Region, with the exception of remote parts of Australia and New Caledonia, and isolates with decreased susceptibility to ceftriaxone and azithromycin are widely reported. ".

[URL]https://iris.wpro.who.int/bitstream/handle/10665.1/13688/WPR-2017-DCD-001-eng.pdf[/URL]

I would imagine the reasons the dosage is higher in Asia would be the same reasons STDs and HIV are higher in Asia, and in particular Thailand. Similar factors involved.

[QUOTE=GuySexLife;2372492]I have a question. If we catch syphilis or hepatitis see.

When you go to the std clinic, If I understand well, you still test positive for treponemal tests even after treatment. They use trepsure anti treponema EIA to test syphilis, they stopped using non treponemal tests as first tests. What if a person was infected with syphilis in the past. How they will know they were infected in the past or reinfected?

I also heard we stay positive for HepatitisC after adequate treatment. How they will know if someone was infected in the past or reinfected?

Anyone who was infected with Syphilis or Hepatitis see can share their experience on blood tests or any medical professional in here?[/QUOTE]I caught syphilis in 2005. I get tested last week, RPR and EIA are negative but TPPA is still positive. The doctor says it will be positive for life. I always used condoms for oral, vaginal sex before catching syphilis. I stopped using condoms because I think it's ineffective, I stopped using condoms for oral sex. I bareback girls when she agrees. I never caught anything even herpes except for syphilis. I get tested every 3 months. I am still negative for syphilis and all other STDs are negative. I am sexually active.

[QUOTE=EnjoyLife63;2372227]I have been barebacking girls since I was diagnosed with stomach cancer in January 2019. I prefer spending money and enjoying the rest of my life to spending money on treatment that won't save me. Why be scared of and get tested for STDs when I know I will die of cancer. I now stop visiting medical professionals trying to steal my money. They are all useless. I prefer living shorter and very well to living longer in a hospital.

I am now in Colombia and fuck girls with condom or condomless. I loved Thailand, it was very easy to bareback in Thailand, HIV and other STDs don't scare me. Since I started being sexually active, I feel healthier and live stress free. Life is good when fear doesn't exist. Cancer is the best thing that happens to me, because I live 100 %. Now and know what life means and have time to do all what I wanted in my life. Next destination for sex will be Brazil.[/QUOTE]Enjoy your life and be strong.

I hope you will enjoy Brazil.

[QUOTE=TheAmericanBoy;2372834] I always used condoms for oral, vaginal sex before catching syphilis. [/QUOTE]So what is the theory for how it might be caught despite using condoms? Is there one? Surely not by kissing?

No condom slip off?

I have thought that finger in pussy and then touching other parts could be faint risk even if low probability. However I would love to hear any more plausible alternatives, for most likely ways the bacteria could be passed.

I love putting fingers deep in girls pussies for a variety of reasons. One is to check for sponge retarding penetration, another is to feel how her uterus is placed and will it likely cause problems if obtrudes too much (she has to have one unless LB or hysterectomy), finally fingers in the girl while tongue kissing helps get up real fast.

Years ago I caught Trachoma in the eye.

Here is a web site quote:

"Chlamydia can be spread during vaginal, anal, or oral sex, and can be passed from an infected mother to her baby during childbirth. The eye infections may also be spread by personal contact, flies, and contaminated towels in areas with poor sanitation. Chlamydia trachomatis only occurs in humans. ".

So my theory was I caught this from a hooker by fingers in her pussy. Doctor did not say anything like that but he called it Chlamydia. However it seems there are several types:

"Trachoma is caused by Chlamydia Trachomatis, serotypes (serovars) A, be, and see" After Monger for sex wrote a bit vaguely, I read that the Sexual Chlamydia are most commonly serotypes E and F and some others but not the same one as in the eye infection. So its the same bacteria, well actually not quite the same. There are several strains of HIV also with differing risk factors. Does not get much publicity.

Possible to be infected by more than one type of Chlamydia concurrently too. So the idea of catching it from the pussy becomes unlikely. Contaminated towel becomes more likely. However fingers rubbing on the eye is still highly likely to have put it in the eye I think.

Are condoms really ineffective? I really doubt that, but depends on the thing being transmitted and how easy that is. Still I am not averse to BBFS with selected girls that I think maybe less risky somehow (perhaps getting tested). Perhaps not choosing a girl that barebacks many guys every day, indiscriminately. Std rates are higher for hookers in Bangkok than in the country I read, particularly HIV. Hopefully most hookers with HIV are treating it with anti-retrovirals (90%) to reduce chances to pass on. I have no clue if they would insist on condoms or not. At least most hookers with it, will know they have it these days.

They only cover your dick, and depending on the condom, your dick, etc, they may not cover all of your dick that well.

To really prevent an STD transfer, and they are all a little different, you need to prevent most of the contact we're interested in. For example, herpes is a good example of an STD that you can get from non-penetrative sexual contact. It could be oral, or maybe some stripper / camel-toe slide, before suiting up for the main event.

For those concerned, while a bit fussy and messy, and more expensive, female condoms give a bareback like sensation, and actually do a better job of preventing genital contact during sex.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2373228]................I love putting fingers deep in girls pussies for a variety of reasons. One is to check for sponge retarding penetration............[/QUOTE]That may very well be an ordinary piece of sponge crudely used to retard penetration. I think its quite difficult to detect the specially designed vaginal sponge, sold in pharmacies, through normal fingering as the sponge is made of soft material that feels like normal vaginal tissue. I think many working girls use them especially those who do bare back sex as they block the girl's cervix to keep sperm from getting into her uterus, and they continuously release spermicide. I'm not sure about their effectiveness in preventing the girl from getting STDs. No doubt many working girls who insist on CFS use them as well. Have you ever detected a vaginal sponge?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2373286]That may very well be an ordinary piece of sponge crudely used to retard penetration. I think its quite difficult to detect the specially designed vaginal sponge, sold in pharmacies, through normal fingering as the sponge is made of soft material that feels like normal vaginal tissue. I think many working girls use them especially those who do bare back sex as they block the girl's cervix to keep sperm from getting into her uterus, and they continuously release spermicide. I'm not sure about their effectiveness in preventing the girl from getting STDs. No doubt many working girls who insist on CFS use them as well. Have you ever detected a vaginal sponge?[/QUOTE]Ha ha. You really surprise me. I will have to go buy one, since I am very skeptical indeed that it will really feel like vagina tissue. I detect "luuk jiap" (literally means like fluffy baby chick) quite regularly in pussies. Some are really rough and some a bit smoother. If I can detect them, then they always obstruct the dick badly and make the fuck feel terrible for me, since I am not really short in the dick. As far as I know, there do not exist smooth ones feeling like a real pussy, but I will go find out.

So I do believe that some girls maybe using proper pharmacy items, and others maybe using something homemade that was cheaper.

I concede that I might not detect if something was 5 inches plus in there, but that is already past the uterus. So my fingers can always feel the uterus opening and if it was covered by anything. Bear in mind, very few girls have a vagina of over 5 inches in length before it get stretched by the sexual activity, unless they are abnormal, I think. I guess my longest middle finger reaches about 4. 5+ inches, past the uterus cervix usually at 4 inches or often less.

I do experience variation in the feel of vagina lining, with some girls extremely smooth and others a little more corregated (small undulations), but certainly feeling quite different to sponge like material.

Strangely some guys reckoned they never experienced girls with a sponge stuffed up there, meaning just blindly unaware, never sticking the fingers in deep at all, and possibly having short dicks too (Ha ha). I have experienced abrasive action of the sponge break a condom causing me to CIP as was not aware tip of condom was damaged (base of condom still in place), actually more than once but many years ago. It was not smooth enough by any means. It is quite unnatural thing to be there. In the modern day, I just can't fuck a girl with a sponge up there and have to get them to take it out. Some have denied it being there after I already discovered it (too late) but still were willing to surreptitiously take it out.

It is possible I have not detected such an obstruction for sure, if in very deep, and indeed extremely smooth such that dick did not feel anything was amiss, but I am doubtful. Sometimes I did not finger every girl deeply in the past if everything was going real smooth, and possibly if she was a regular. Tonight my Thermae girl pussy was not feeling good with dick in her pussy, so I certainly used digits to probe very thoroughly looking for anything strange, which I did not find. Her cervix was normal enough perhaps slightly descended.

Some girls never use a sponge in there, some only on their period (the major reason), and some use all the time. I am not really experienced with girls that allow BBFS using it with spermicide, however if it covered the cervix to prevent sperm entry that would mean it is in far too shallow and would likely be a severe obstruction. A dutch cap to prevent pregnancy is quite a different thing. I don't actually have any experience with any hookers at MPs allowing CIP but using a sponge. As far as I know, none of my regulars uses a sponge, and they don't like me to CIP either. If I finger, I can always feel the cervix opening clearly. (not covered).

I would rather have the nice feeling pussy but pull out to cum, instead of CIP. Sponges make the fuck feel so crappy. Dicks don't like abrasion.

[QUOTE=TheAmericanBoy;2372834]I caught syphilis in 2005. I get tested last week, RPR and EIA are negative but TPPA is still positive. The doctor says it will be positive for life. I always used condoms for oral, vaginal sex before catching syphilis. I stopped using condoms because I think it's ineffective, I stopped using condoms for oral sex. I bareback girls when she agrees. I never caught anything even herpes except for syphilis. I get tested every 3 months. I am still negative for syphilis and all other STDs are negative. I am sexually active.[/QUOTE]Syphilis test is less accurate than hiv test. Maybe you never had syphilis.

They were only available at Boots' and they were never plentiful. You would have to check several Boots pharmacies to muster maybe 4 or 5 pieces. Now for the past week I've tried in vain to find any in Pattaya. As usual the pharmacies could tell me nothing except the familiar "no hab". My suggestion they might want to order a load of them as I was prepared to buy in bulk only elicited a grin. A pharmacy placing orders? Ah-ah-ah, another crazy farang scheme!

With so many useless brands of condoms on the shelves it had to be this one that went missing.

It is infuriating to see condom technology remaining stuck in the 1920s. Any howsoever innovative condoms have been hard to get and beset by flaws like ridiculously inadequate lengths or girths. It's like a conspiracy was afoot to force men into unprotected sex.

[QUOTE=XXL;2382769]

It is infuriating to see condom technology remaining stuck in the 1920s. Any howsoever innovative condoms have been hard to get and beset by flaws like ridiculously inadequate lengths or girths. It's like a conspiracy was afoot to force men into unprotected sex.[/QUOTE]Okamoto 003 are stretchable latex and readily available in 7 eleven, however they are made for Japanese. You really have to stretch them to get them on, and length does not reach the whole way. Would be nice if they sold a larger size.

I always put them on myself because I know the technique required. I am scared if the girl stuffs around trying to work out how to get it on, the dick will have gone down by that time. At least they don't slip off easily unless too much lube gets inside the condom. I used to use the large size Durex Comfort and sometimes still revert to those. Not that thick but still thicker than the 003's. Polyurethane condoms like Sagami never worked well for me because they don't really stretch (also makes it hard to get on) and I don't like the wrinkly quality.

It becomes easier just to have regular BB girls, and forget the condoms.

I am waiting for Okamoto 002 but in at larger width and length, rather than what seems like small size only. Condoms need to well hidden. The Mrs would know what they are for.