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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2467586]Well working.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I think they fixed it.

The government of France released a report that evaluated the 2016 sex purchase law. Link in French:[URL]http://ma.lumiere.rouge.blogs.liberation.fr/2020/06/25/le-rapport-devaluation-de-la-loi-2016-est-enfin-rendu-public/[/URL].

I tried wannonce last Monday. I sent messages to about a dozen of girls (in french). Got only 3 answers back, and they came so late that I had already booked through another channel.

For those that are used to this website: is it normal?

[QUOTE=BaltiX;2469235]The government of France released a report that evaluated the 2016 sex purchase law. Link in French:[URL]http://ma.lumiere.rouge.blogs.liberation.fr/2020/06/25/le-rapport-devaluation-de-la-loi-2016-est-enfin-rendu-public/[/URL].[/QUOTE]Thanks. Are you, or anyone fully fluent in French (obviously not me), able to give us a summary of this, especially the implications for punters / mongers?

Sorry I don't speak French. Perhaps ask the French speaking forumers to translate it.

Hello,

After surfing on my favorites models social networks, I saw this website [URL]www.meetmypornstar.com[/URL]. Apparently it's a new website and I propose to meet the models who work with. To meet them, we have to participate at a lottery. No sex during the meeting. Is anyone of you heard something about this website?

[QUOTE=Siggleii;2470844]Thanks. Are you, or anyone fully fluent in French (obviously not me), able to give us a summary of this, especially the implications for punters / mongers?[/QUOTE]The 2016 law had 6 mains points: 1) prostitutes are no longer regarded as criminals, but as victims. 2) Clients can now be fined, up to 1500,3750 if recidivism. 3) A fund to help prostitutes get out of prostitution has been created. 4) Some bullshit about "fighting against prostitution will now be a theme in education and citizenship" 5) Creation of a 6 month work visa for foreign prostitutes following the course to get out of prostitution 6) Creation of county-based institutions to handle prostitution victims (prostitutes, not swindled clients).

The overall goal being to reduce prostitution in France.

Impacts for mongers: you can now be fined. About 4000 clients have been fined in France, in 2017. But you have to be caught in the act, so if you don't go for streetwalkers, you should be fine. Also, those numbers look really small: There are 15.000 announces on sexemodel in France. Let's say 3/4 are fake, that leave about 4000 working girls (not counting streetwalkers, and girls advertising on other websites). Let's say a girl has at least 3 clients per day. 365 days a year. This makes about 3180.000 mongers a year. Just for sexemodel. So the 4000 guys that where fined represent about 0,13% of the clients.

And again, I think those guys were caught going for streetwalkers. But if you set up everything through the net, you basically have 0% chance of being caught.

Summary of the linked article (not much information about mongers) : basically, the government didn't really give a shit about prostitution or prostitutes. It was more a political symbol ("look, we fight prostitution! We make France great again! Vote for us! ") Rather than a real war on prostitution. The "help-to-get-out-course" was in fact not accessible to everyone, so prostitutes wanting to stop could get refused the said help. The allocation given to help them live while following the course was a gran total of 330 e / month (good luck to live with that). In the end, very few benefited from the course.

No one was actually in charge to check that this law actually working. And no one really knows how to evaluate this anyway, since there is no statistics on prostitutes in France (official estimated number of prostitutes in France: between 30 and 40,000 lmao). So no way of comparing the before / after the law. The whole report was only based on the feedbacks of policemen, attorneys, and politics. The associations representing the prostitutes were not consulted to elaborate the report.

The whole article just points out how much of a political feminism bullshit this law was.

I wonder how many politicians secretly admit this law is bullshit. At least prostitution is no longer a hot topic.

[QUOTE=DecadentDude92;2471723]The 2016 law had 6 mains points: 1) prostitutes are no longer regarded as criminals, but as victims. 2) Clients can now be fined, up to 1500,3750 if recidivism. 3) A fund to help prostitutes get out of prostitution has been created. 4) Some bullshit about "fighting against prostitution will now be a theme in education and citizenship" 5) Creation of a 6 month work visa for foreign prostitutes following the course to get out of prostitution 6) Creation of county-based institutions to handle prostitution victims (prostitutes, not swindled clients).

The overall goal being to reduce prostitution in France.

Impacts for mongers: you can now be fined. About 4000 clients have been fined in France, in 2017. But you have to be caught in the act, so if you don't go for streetwalkers, you should be fine. Also, those numbers look really small: There are 15.000 announces on sexemodel in France. Let's say 3/4 are fake, that leave about 4000 working girls (not counting streetwalkers, and girls advertising on other websites). Let's say a girl has at least 3 clients per day. 365 days a year. This makes about 3180.000 mongers a year. Just for sexemodel. So the 4000 guys that where fined represent about 0,13% of the clients.[/QUOTE]But prostitution is still legal in France. On next day after confined, 12 May, I saw girls working in streets with no mask, close to Longchamp horses races field, close to very expensive Paris district for more than 20 000 €/ meter square. New German law 2017 was to try to protect German families health and to try to get taxes, new French law was to try to please feminists, when prostitution is since Madeleine, oldest job as said, and social useful for guys who need sex, rather than making problems to women in streets or bars. France is now thinking about prostituting kind of nurses for handicapped to have right for sex. Just France logic. Of course, have to fight pimping, women traffics, but when girls do because they want our money, when they are more than 18 and even better when 21, then they do social, useful job to make guys feel better, more relax, more quiet, when many politics, not only Strauss-Kahn, go to prostitutes, this all over the world.

I answered to this announce to get a Tantric massage: [URL]https://www.wannonce.com/annonce/massage-bien-etre-1292884.htm[/URL].

Price was 150 for 30 min, or 250/ hour. The photo is not real. It's a professional massage parlor, that also happen to give tantric massages, so the masseuse you meet is random. I found the way of advertising quite original, but why not?

The masseuse this time was a black girl, about 23, with blue eyes, which I found really nice (not a fan of black girls usually, but even I had to admit that she got charm). Also, nice body shape and proportions.

Since it's a professional massage parlor, the place was clean and well equipped with shower, massage bed with disposable sheets, and relaxing music in the background. I was proposed some refreshments before and after.

The masseuse knew her job and it was an enjoyable experience. It was a pure tantric massage, so no BJ or FJ. She still finished the job with an HJ though.

I quite liked the experience and would recommend for anyone interested.

I was obliged to return from holidays for my job which couldn't wait, I was furious, so I went to Dana rdv4u, exceptional GFE in bed like at home.

[QUOTE=DecadentDude92;2472671]I answered to this announce to get a Tantric massage: [URL]https://www.wannonce.com/annonce/massage-bien-etre-1292884.htm[/URL].

Price was 150 for 30 min, or 250/ hour. The photo is not real. It's a professional massage parlor, that also happen to give tantric massages, so the masseuse you meet is random. I found the way of advertising quite original, but why not?

The masseuse this time was a black girl, about 23, with blue eyes, which I found really nice (not a fan of black girls usually, but even I had to admit that she got charm). Also, nice body shape and proportions.

Since it's a professional massage parlor, the place was clean and well equipped with shower, massage bed with disposable sheets, and relaxing music in the background. I was proposed some refreshments before and after.

The masseuse knew her job and it was an enjoyable experience. It was a pure tantric massage, so no BJ or FJ. She still finished the job with an HJ though.

I quite liked the experience and would recommend for anyone interested.[/QUOTE]You could have done that anywhere for 30 euros. Sad.

[QUOTE=Quasimodo764;2474215]You could have done that anywhere for 30 euros. Sad.[/QUOTE]Not saying that there isn't any cheaper alternative, but for 30 euros in Paris, you get a 15 min quick fuck in the back of a truck with a fat 40+ years old WG. Not a 1 h massage from a professional masseuse in a parlor. Unless you got some intel to share?

Be careful with massages. I just got a real / proper massage (non-sexual) yesterday, and I had couple of bed bug bites on my arm after that. And this was with a classy (luxe) Thai massage establishment.

I should say I'm not 100% sure if it was the massage place / table where I got the bed bug bites, but I'm quite sure it's not from my own bed.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2471904]But prostitution is still legal in France. On next day after confined, 12 May, I saw girls working in streets with no mask, close to Longchamp horses races field, close to very expensive Paris district for more than 20 000 / meter square. [/QUOTE]Don't kid yourself.

The 2016 law wasn't about legalizing prostitution.

It is about trying to end prostitution and one of the articles made it illegal to pay for sex:

[QUOTE]Art. 611-1.-Le fait de solliciter, d'accepter ou d'obtenir des relations de nature sexuelle d'une personne qui se livre la prostitution, y compris de faon occasionnelle, en change d'une rmunration, d'une promesse de rmunration, de la fourniture d'un avantage en nature ou de la promesse d'un tel avantage est puni de l'amende prvue pour les contraventions de la cinquime classe.[/QUOTE]Translated that reads:

[QUOTE]Art. 611-1.-The fact of soliciting, accepting or obtaining relations of a sexual nature from a person who engages in prostitution, including on an occasional basis, in exchange for remuneration, a promised remuneration, the provision of a benefit in kind or the promise of such a benefit is punished by the fine provided for contraventions of the fifth class.[/QUOTE]Good luck to convince the Police or the Judge that you shouldn't be fined because "Prostitution is still legal".