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[QUOTE=Western787; 1556751]Fairly rare (and apparently) recent video of Ran Hime Japanese Karaoke Club on Soi 33.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdXLljOLhrk[/url]

Amazing how many Japanese are addicted to nicotine, in fact one of the highest cigarette smoking rates in the world, vs Thai females one of the lowest rates of smoking in the world. In the video at least 3 of the 4 Japanese have packs of cigarettes on the table, [/QUOTE]When I see all those pathetic addicted morons sitting with their chain smoking friends in enclosed bars and other public places, sucking on their stinking smoke sticks one after another; ruining my enjoyment of the evening, I fantizise about how I could somehow make them regret having the social manners of barnyard pigs.

I'd love to, for example, find a way to insert a small explosive into each cigarette without their knowledge and then watch them go off with a poof in their face sending showers of sparks in all directions to burn holes in their clothing and singe their hair. Few things would bring me greater satisfaction than to watch their reaction and see the black soot on their startled faces. And that's the most benign fate I imagine for them.

As a real fan of DFK in many situations, I am anxious to hear about Thai aversion. Is this a limited think-girls don't want DFK or pretty broad. I ask this realizing it's really hard to generalize. But thought I'd try. GT

[QUOTE=Gulftag;1556863]As a real fan of DFK in many situations, I am anxious to hear about Thai aversion. Is this a limited think-girls don't want DFK or pretty broad. I ask this realizing it's really hard to generalize. But thought I'd try. GT[/QUOTE]It is not as much an aversion as rather that western style kissing is not part of their culture. Thai practice the "sniff kiss". Google "thai sniff kiss" and you will see many examples.

My Thai GF initially did not want to use mouth-to-mouth kissing, let alone DFK. But it took only little training to make her love it very much. (or perhaps I am just a good teacher)

Girls who regularly meet Farang will know how to do it. Just ask them if they want to do it with you. Just don't surprise your companion with a DFK. Build up slowly: sniff kiss, kiss on her cheek, closed mouth kiss, open mouth kiss, DFK.

This is just an opinion. After watching the Karoke video I thought to myself the following. 1. The smoking thing is not good. 2. The girls are fullly dressed and just

Sitting there. 3. Guys and girls playing with electronic toys. 4. Singing voices are bad. 5 Why would I pay a high price for this. I can do what these guys are doing in.

Any bar in town, except for the singing part. I hope they each took one of the girls home as this looks like a real waste of time and money from what I see on the

Video. But I am not Asian so maybe that is why I do see any value in it.

No need to visit a karoke place unless it is nude karoke joint.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1556895]It is not as much an aversion as rather that western style kissing is not part of their culture. Thai practice the "sniff kiss". Google "thai sniff kiss" and you will see many examples.

My Thai GF initially did not want to use mouth-to-mouth kissing, let alone DFK. But it took only little training to make her love it very much. (or perhaps I am just a good teacher)

Girls who regularly meet Farang will know how to do it. Just ask them if they want to do it with you. Just don't surprise your companion with a DFK. Build up slowly: sniff kiss, kiss on her cheek, closed mouth kiss, open mouth kiss, DFK.[/QUOTE]Been her almost 15 years and really out of the many hundreds of gals I have been with only a few, and I can count them on two hands, have ever had a problem with DFK. And when I hit the room and the door closes my tongue is down their throats. Never been into the "sniff-kissing" business.

[QUOTE=Mackin; 1556898]This is just an opinion. After watching the Karoke video I thought to myself the following. 1. The smoking thing is not good. 2. The girls are fullly dressed and just

Sitting there. 3. Guys and girls playing with electronic toys. 4. Singing voices are bad. 5 Why would I pay a high price for this. I can do what these guys are doing in.

Any bar in town, except for the singing part. I hope they each took one of the girls home as this looks like a real waste of time and money from what I see on the

Video. But I am not Asian so maybe that is why I do see any value in it.

No need to visit a karoke place unless it is nude karoke joint.[/QUOTE]It is a Japanese and Korean thing, I doubt if we will ever understand it. Perhaps it is just an excuse to drink a lot of alcohol.

[QUOTE=Western787; 1556751]Fairly rare (and apparently) recent video of Ran Hime Japanese Karaoke Club on Soi 33.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdXLljOLhrk[/url]

Amazing how many Japanese are addicted to nicotine, in fact one of the highest cigarette smoking rates in the world, vs Thai females one of the lowest rates of smoking in the world. In the video at least 3 of the 4 Japanese have packs of cigarettes on the table, Thai males also have high rate. Not suprising why so few Thai women do full mouth to mouth kissing, and could be one of the few advantages (non smoking at least) Falangs typically have over many Japanese nicotine addicted customers.

I am very surprised management even allowed this video to be taken as it very clearly shows identity of the girls, so it must be related to business being way off recently.

A second video which definitely could also only be done with full permission of the shop as he's using (as indicated elsewhere) a real Sony HDR not a hidden cell phone camera: [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNEFbETLNzI[/url][/QUOTE]Now, if they were all screwing or getting blown, it might be interesting, but Karaoke, meh!

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1556901]It is a Japanese and Korean thing, I doubt if we will ever understand it. Perhaps it is just an excuse to drink a lot of alcohol.[/QUOTE]Also a Thai thing. It's amazing how many Thais think they can sing good but are actually badly out of tune. They are prepared to listen to others sing badly as well. I suppose I should not be posting this. It's not relevant to either sex or Bangkok.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1556900]Been her almost 15 years and really out of the many hundreds of gals I have been with only a few, and I can count them on two hands, have ever had a problem with DFK. And when I hit the room and the door closes my tongue is down their throats. Never been into the "sniff-kissing" business.[/QUOTE]Yes, but didn't you just admit (a month of two back) that in recent years you had to walk out or end the sessions with certain P4P girls precisely because they didn't do DFK and / or GFE?

[QUOTE=Gulftag;1556863]As a real fan of DFK in many situations, I am anxious to hear about Thai aversion. Is this a limited think-girls don't want DFK or pretty broad. I ask this realizing it's really hard to generalize. But thought I'd try. GT[/QUOTE]If you're dealing with street girls, go go's, and bar girls, overall you are looking IMHO at 30% to 50% WILL engage in full mouth kissing either LFK or DFK. (basically initiated by them) and I would guess much higher if you're a good looking young stud type, although I have never quite figured out why those guys need to hire P4P girls in the first place.

Apparently the general rule is full mouth to mouth kissing is not the norm in Thailand, and to the extent it is routinely practiced within normal Thai girl/boy relationships, its the newer generation where its more likely, and in any case its never or rarely ever (in normal relationships) going to be done in public. I've met girls new to the P4P business who have verified this, and in fact (true mouth to mouth) when kissing them one can sense a certain newness on their part that is actually quite attractive. Most still consider it to be a sort of taboo issue.

As for DATY its even more taboo, and many seem not familiar with it, although most are quite anxious to have it done again once they experience it. Of course DATY from their side of the equation is actually ultra low risk, even less than true kissing, so i guess they figure why not?

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1556903]Now, if they were all screwing or getting blown, it might be interesting, but Karaoke, meh![/QUOTE]Some of the girls I believe sometimes do get taken out. That happens in Manila for sure, but maybe in Bangkok its less common.

[QUOTE=Western787; 1556977]Apparently the general rule is full mouth to mouth kissing is not the norm in Thailand, and to the extent it is routinely practiced within normal Thai girl / boy relationships, its the newer generation where its more likely, and in any case its never or rarely ever (in normal relationships) going to be done in public. I've met girls new to the P4P business who have verified this, and in fact (true mouth to mouth) when kissing them one can sense a certain newness on their part that is actually quite attractive. Most still consider it to be a sort of taboo issue.

As for DATY its even more taboo, and many seem not familiar with it, although most are quite anxious to have it done again once they experience it. Of course DATY from their side of the equation is actually ultra low risk, even less than true kissing, so I guess they figure why not?[/QUOTE]I think if you go back 15 or 20 years this might be true, but I really don't think so today. Most of the folks I hang out with are not in the P4P scene. I have discussed sex with my Thai friends and DATY and DFK are pretty much all on the menu for them and their girls.

Over the past decade Thai women (and not talking P4P here) have gone through a sexual awakening. Many are no longer looking for a husband and choose to be "working women" as they call it. They think nothing about going out an picking up a dude for sex. There is no real Christian guilt associated with it. There are numerous Thai for Thai sites and one only has to go to any club to see this in action. Being late 20s early 30s dude with would be a pretty good gig these days. My younger friends (both Thai and Farang) that I have met through the music scene never engage in P4P and are banging great looking, I mean great looking gals on a regular basis. Not only are these gals pretty, but they all have jobs, and they are not looking for a host to support them or their parasitic families.

Ever since I moved here Thai males have always expressed amazement at Farangs who choose poor working girls for girlfriends and wives. I must admit I concur with them 100.

But back on the subject. None of these young dudes have any issues with DFK and DATY and neither do the gals they date.

[QUOTE=Western787;1556973]Yes, but didn't you just admit (a month of two back) that in recent years you had to walk out or end the sessions with certain P4P girls precisely because they didn't do DFK and / or GFE?[/QUOTE]And that is a very small percentage of the hundreds I have done. I would say that is a reflection of the lack of service these days in the P4P scene, and not indicative of what the majority of women here are willing to do. P4P gals here are becoming like P4P gals in most other parts of the world.

[QUOTE=Western787;1556977]If you're dealing with street girls, go go's, and bar girls, overall you are looking IMHO at 30% to 50% WILL engage in full mouth kissing either LFK or DFK. (basically initiated by them) and I would guess much higher if you're a good looking young stud type, although I have never quite figured out why those guys need to hire P4P girls in the first place.[/QUOTE]When I was youngish here. 34 when I moved, I already preferred P4P gals because it just required such little effort and I could walk away after. Again, I found 95% of the gals to have no issue with DFK or DATY. But I do think if a dude is a fat poorly groomed smelly slob, the gals probably would not want to kiss them. I see lots of those types around; shorts, tank top, flip flops, gut (most are well over 10 kilos overweight) , greasy hair, poorly groomed facial hair, etc. Trim that pit hair, shave those pubes, taint, and keister, get to the gym, keep the facial hair under control, and dress well. Oh, and don't be an incorrigible drunk. Gets you quite a ways here really. If you weren't attractive to the ladies at home, you won't be over here.

[QUOTE=Western787;1556977]As for DATY its even more taboo, and many seem not familiar with it, although most are quite anxious to have it done again once they experience it. Of course DATY from their side of the equation is actually ultra low risk, even less than true kissing, so i guess they figure why not?[/QUOTE]I am not sure that DATY is really more taboo at all. Obviously its behind closed doors and not a thing to talked about very openly. However I find fewer girls refusing DATY than not wishing to DFK. I have met a few girls who never experienced DATY before. They soon enough got to like it once they get over the thought that kissing her pussy is dirty. I think its very similar to not many men dislike a good BJ.

Some girls will stop it on occasions because they don't want to come every time. My P4P bargirl last night was willing to take very long DATY till Cum last night (as a good sleep would follow) but not this morning. Explaining that she could easily have 3 to 4 ST customers in a day (the busiest girl in in the bar easily) and she won't feel like working properly if she cums too often. However ask her any questions about what she liked and what she didn't like during the sex, all you get is giggles. They are often too shy to discuss sex topics very explicitly.

No need to be sceptical about her customers. This girl basically doesn't take new customers, unless she specially likes them, because her time is completely filled with regulars who ring to book her time. She usually does ST upstairs of the bar in order to minimise her time wastage, however she does do all night booking for guys she knows that are not too stingy and will not want to fuck all night. She actually called me yesterday to come over to my Hotel for a swim together at midday, as she lives very close. Originally, I wasn't expecting her till at least 6PM. So its not all business with her. She was willing to stay to have breakfast together. Shortly will be off too the temple with some friends. So actually quite a nice girl, even though she has her business money targets too. Doesn't smoke, doesn't drink, doesn't do drugs, no gambling, no tats. Quite an unusual bargirl. No apparent vices, maybe only the game on her Samsung. Another fun bargirl I know, has every vice and talks too much as well (like till 5AM in the morning when should be sleeping). Sometimes a less wayward bargirl is better. Actually several guys want to her to stop working the bar. LOL. However she is making well over 100K per month to finance building a house for the mother etc. So she is in no hurry to settle down with some guy and the money to suddenly drop off. Each bargirl has a quota of 10 "offs" (BFs) to achieve each month. This bargirl says she achieves her quota in just 3 days easily.

If a bargirl does not meet her quota of drink sales and BFs for the month, her monthly salary gets cut. Some girls have so much cut from the salary that there is nothing left. These girls will have made some money through drink commissions and sex with customers, however some bargirls are actually really struggling to make money if they have no appeal to the customers at all. So the really unappealing girls will have to leave some bars and find something else to make money. Not sure if some girls are managing to get sympathy fucks from customers.

There are too many fat girls in the bar for my tastes, as they drink too much coke and alcohol and eat too many carbs. Someone must be buying them drinks and helping keep them fat I guess. The No. 1 girl in the bar has no fat on her at all. Very tight body slim body and very cute. Other girls should know they need to lose weight and get into shape to start making more money.