Bangkok Reports

If one reads back 5 or 10 sum-odd pages they will come across places where the dominate posters here are of guys of retirement age. These guys have been having a grand old time lately, posting about the good old days that they are no-more, and the downward fate of mongering in this fine city. These guys have been mongering for longer than 30 years. They have zero-ed in on what has worked best for them to get no-strings attached sex while moving further into their twilight years.

The 25 yo poster hasn't realized that the old guys here are past their prime and can't change their lifestyle and age to start pulling girls from the gym or other non-mongering types of venues. So maybe just the 25yo's are complaining under their breath that they don't have the finances to pull no strings attached pussy at 1-3k a night, so he feels resentment for the guys that can. Since the senior guys with nest eggs have a hard time scrounging for the free stuff there is resentment against having their noses rubbed into what they do by the snotty-nosed 25yo.

Rest assured, the 25yo will be old before he knows it. He will understand better as he ages. He just needs time. By his writing you can tell he is beyond his years in expressing himself. He just needs a better understanding of the path of life.

By the way, if he is not a young monger. What the hell is he doing on the stickman site and ISG anyway? This just tells me he is holding back something and is not telling the complete truth.

[quote]"I recently discovered this website and have been reading through some readers' submissions and weekly columns. I am in my mid 20s and have lived and worked in Bangkok for 3½ years. I am completely amazed by some of the stuff on this site and not in a good way. Having shared the link around friends of my age they mostly had a similar opinion. The site is stuck in some kind of alternate universe where it is still 2002. The scene which is talked about may have been what most foreigners here did back then (I don't know) but it certainly isn't now, at least among people of my age. Other than a minority, almost all of my friends of similar age who live and work in Bangkok do not go to gogo bar areas except occasionally for a laugh if someone new comes and we take them to see the bars and the types of foreigners who go there. We certainly don't go to take women. It isn't because it's seen as wrong, but mostly that there is no chance we would pay money to sleep with women who look as bad as most of the bar women do. They are awful. Most of us meet girlfriends the same way we did in our own countries, randomly, at work, or at the gym, things like that. Girls that are far better than any found in a bar. With Thai women you always end up paying one way or another, but there is a big difference between spending perhaps a couple of thousand baht on food or whatever taking a hot looking girl out all night (who actually wants to go out with you) and going to some gogo bar and end up paying more to go to a room for an hour to have sex with a wreck of a girl who might have had sex 4 or 5 times that night and who doesn't want to be there and probably has to be drunk to do so. I noticed some readers complaining about the prices they have to pay for girls going up, and the quality of women in bars decreasing. How can anyone think it is a bad thing that Thai girls now have better opportunities in life than selling sex to foreigners."[/quote]

[QUOTE=Ehunter;1557300]The 25 yo poster hasn't realized that the old guys here are past their prime and can't change their lifestyle and age to start pulling girls from the gym or other non-mongering types of venues.[/QUOTE]Old guys with money have no trouble pulling in beautiful young women. I live in South Florida now. Around here an old man in a motorized wheelchair sucking on an oxygen tank with a fat bank account could go around with a sign reading, "Beautiful young chicks wanted." In minutes he'd be surrounded by hot honeys. I've dated very attractive young ladies here. One of my favorite places to meet them is at a complex filled with bars, restaurants and a nice gym. Funny that you mention a gym in your post. Anyway, we exchange info and plan a date. I take them to a fancy restaurant, a nice bar afterwards. After blowing a few hundred on them they're ready to spread their legs. It's not a question of where you can and cannot pull girls; it's whether you want the complications of a young lady looking for a sugar daddy or prefer the simplicity of fucking prostitutes.

[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1557305]Old guys with money have no trouble pulling in beautiful young women. I live in South Florida now. Around here an old man in a motorized wheelchair sucking on an oxygen tank with a fat bank account could go around with a sign reading, "Beautiful young chicks wanted." In minutes he'd be surrounded by hot honeys. I've dated very attractive young ladies here. One of my favorite places to meet them is at a complex filled with bars, restaurants and a nice gym. Funny that you mention a gym in your post. Anyway, we exchange info and plan a date. I take them to a fancy restaurant, a nice bar afterwards. After blowing a few hundred on them they're ready to spread their legs. It's not a question of where you can and cannot pull girls; it's whether you want the complications of a young lady looking for a sugar daddy or prefer the simplicity of fucking prostitutes.[/QUOTE]This pretty much sums it up.

What a lot of young guys don't understand is us older gents don't want a GF. I know I don't.

We have done the GF thing, the wife thing, the kids thing and now it is our time.

When you have a Gf or wife, there is a higher price to pay then money. It is called drama.

If I can have a pretty girl fuck my brains out and leave. The next day I can repeat with one or two others and then they leave, I am a happy man.

I have been to Thailand many times and contrary to what the little 25 year old says, there are a lot of young guys Americans and others that come to Thailand to buy it not to date it.

Having had a wonderful session with Kul (Goon) at Dr BJ, I wasn't sure I was up for any more. So decided to just have a perve in some bars and just maybe if the right girl was found, do something.

Decided firstly to check out the raunchy Yok look-alike with fab tits at Crazy House, May. She was not there. The line-up on Sunday was just slightly down, but many newish girls fairly good looking. Called one over for a drink. She had worked only 3 days so far. Turned out she had bad breath. I suggested she go brush her teeth, but she said she would do so at home, even though I had a tiny toothbrush and toothpaste on me. She was willing to take chewing gum. Anyway scratch her. There was an altercation and a Japanese guy threw a glass. Strangely this was accepted and he was not dealt with it seems. He went upstairs. I believe one innocent bystander customer got a slight injury.

I decided to go look in Long Gun. My regular girl was not there. The rest were so-so. I did not go in SW as feared would cost me too much and besides wanted to check something different.

Went to rainbow 4 about midnight. Line-up was surprisingly unimpressive, although I guess the good girls disappeared earlier. Would have expected some to return though. A lot of silicone jobs, some bad saggies, several fatties, some fake noses, some broad squashed noses, some witchy hook noses. Only one or two slim girls, with no tits at all, looked any good to me. No stunningly pretty girls (its too late I suppose). I don't really understand why Rainbow 4 is so highly rated. What I could say was that some RB4 girls had good aspects. E. G. A girl with ordinary face had a fabulous ass but overly firm silicones up top. I thought my 35 Y.O. Thai GF (cute nose, good tits and good ass) to be somewhat hotter than the entire line up actually, even if her slightly pointy chin would not be everyone's taste.

The girls at Crazy House were better looking to my taste (much more natural looking girls) with better faces and better bodies as well. Its just that maybe only a small percentage of them are actually nice girls. A few super asshole girls work there too.

Next Spankys as had found a couple of nice girls there before. Immediately I liked Spanky's better than RB4, as even though no stunners, mostly slim girls, no fatties, only one silicone set, very few fake noses, and quite a few totally naked girls. However my good fuck girl from previous visits was not there. Nana Carpark did not have any talent at this time. Walk along Suk, saw plenty of black girls, all quite ugly, no stunning street walkers.

On the way home, wanted to have a look in the Thermae. Turns out it was pretty quiet. Apparently 2AM is a bit late for it. Two pretty enough doable girls though out of about 15 to 20 girls remaining. A few LBs outside.

That was it. So I continue to be underwhelmed by Nana Plaza, at each visit. Maybe just getting too old and picky.

[QUOTE=TellAll; 1557315]This pretty much sums it up.

What a lot of young guys don't understand is us older gents don't want a GF. I know I don't.

We have done the GF thing, the wife thing, the kids thing and now it is our time.

When you have a Gf or wife, there is a higher price to pay then money. It is called drama.

If I can have a pretty girl fuck my brains out and leave. The next day I can repeat with one or two others and then they leave, I am a happy man.

I have been to Thailand many times and contrary to what the little 25 year old says, there are a lot of young guys Americans and others that come to Thailand to buy it not to date it.[/QUOTE]A man much wiser than I ever will be, once said "We pay them to leave us in the morning". That sums it up very nice.

[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1557305]Old guys with money have no trouble pulling in beautiful young women. I live in South Florida now.[/QUOTE]The difference is that "with money" in The World means several million USA in the bank, and willing to throw $500+ per night out, plus frequent $2k+ big-ticket items. And even given that, your choices are limited, and you need to be willing to take shit from your sponsored tarts.

In Thailand, it means pulling 50k baht per month (easy for almost any Farang) , spending 1000 baht on a night out, and an occasional 5000 baht big-ticket item. Of course, for fools the sky is the limit (house / car / clearing debts) , but these amounts are more than enough. And there's choice.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp; 1557444]The difference is that "with money" in The World means several million USA in the bank, and willing to throw $500+ per night out, plus frequent $2k+ big-ticket items. And even given that, your choices are limited, and you need to be willing to take shit from your sponsored tarts.

In Thailand, it means pulling 50k baht per month (easy for almost any Farang) , spending 1000 baht on a night out, and an occasional 5000 baht big-ticket item. Of course, for fools the sky is the limit (house / car / clearing debts) , but these amounts are more than enough. And there's choice.[/QUOTE]Fact is in the Western World, no matter how much you pay be it wife, gf or sugar baby, you still have to put up with there bullshit.

Even billionaires here can't keep a trophy wife. Sooner or later the price is to high, your sanity.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp; 1557444]The difference is that "with money" in The World means several million USA in the bank, and willing to throw $500+ per night out, plus frequent $2k+ big-ticket items. And even given that, your choices are limited, and you need to be willing to take shit from your sponsored tarts.

In Thailand, it means pulling 50k baht per month (easy for almost any Farang) , spending 1000 baht on a night out, and an occasional 5000 baht big-ticket item. Of course, for fools the sky is the limit (house / car / clearing debts) , but these amounts are more than enough. And there's choice.[/QUOTE]In four sentences you summarized why Bangkok is so appealing to a mature, committed single man.

The endless debate about buying pussy vs freebies (ha!) led me to some basic arithmetic. In my old age I still remember the basics, addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division.

I ran some numbers related to my 20 year marriage. We had a good sex life so I don't know that I can put a number to the amount of times we fucked but I'll call it every other day, which might be high but probably close. Definitely more at the beginning and tapered off towards the end.

My X never worked and she had a bit of a spending problem. I'm sure I missed some figures but I included the basics, food, half the mortgage as I also needed a place to live. Insurance, food, vacations, taxes, gifts, jewelry, expensive purses, expensive shoes, expensive watches, and expensive clothing. Money loaned to relatives, Basic needs but my x didn't do anything basic. I was trying to be conservative. Then the big payout at the end of the marriage, not to mention the many times I have had to bail her out after the divorce. Again being conservative.

I did not count the cost of children, the $190, 000 dollar kid education. The room and board. The braces. And on and on.

I come up with a cost of about $1, 036 per fuck.

I get an adorable 20 something that treats me like a king for the LT I take her for. In BKK I pay a lot because I like the particular girl and I usually take her for multiple days. 5 this last trip. Less than $200 for LT. In September / October I'll take her to an island unless she pisses me off between now and then.

I pull 20 year old girls in the States for 200-300. It's not my 56 year old looks. Although I have fun with them and they with me, it's still about the money. And I'm perfectly fine with that.

So $1036 a pop for a depreciating commodity or $200-300 for an endless supply of 20 something cuties. It even gets better when you pull a FL in the Phils or Baech Road for $50. Or years back those hotties in Cuba for the cost of a meal.

And as TellAll said. No drama zone. Or at least not the endless kind of drama that you can't walk away from. You get hooker drama but that's quick and compared to 20 year drama, painless.

If only I knew then what I know now.

[QUOTE=TellAll; 1557453]Fact is in the Western World, no matter how much you pay be it wife, gf or sugar baby, you still have to put up with there bullshit.

Even billionaires here can't keep a trophy wife. Sooner or later the price is to high, your sanity.[/QUOTE]A few weeks ago I read an article based on interviews with a number of billionaires. One of the questions all were asked was what they most feared. They all said the same thing,"a divorce."

A few years ago I met a stunning lady in her late thirties. She had been a model and at the time had an agency that groomed and managed teenage models. As a young woman she had a series of celebrity boyfriends. A guy who is now in the NFL Hall of Fame and has had a very successful career since retiring from professional football once asked her to marry him. She turned him down because at the time she was working on landing a bigger fish. The phrase she used to explain how she was able to maneuver through life was "pussy power." The anecdote is to fuck with your little head and think with your big head.

I am very weird (or not) I like the tranquility of living alone most of the time. I will work for at least 10 more years. Technical work not packed with political hassles and people hassles. Technically challenging is better.

I was totally bored to death in Insanity disco. I know some other discos are better. The music, well it just wasn't music to me. Check Inn band is better for me. Music from many eras. On the other hand I can still enjoy watching good naked bodies dance in Crazy House for a short time.

Also instead of getting a massage (just a waste of time to me) , I can get soft tits on my balls, BJ, nice fuck etc. For a very reasonable fee. Outsourced sex can cost much less for many of us, and we get it when we want it. Go crazy for a couple of days, then back to a moderate life style.

A life of fewer hassles is great. I am sitting outside. Bangkok is not that hot. 20 years ago the air was far cleaner and the sun was far hotter, when its rays would strike you.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1557478]I am very weird (or not) I like the tranquility of living alone most of the time. I will work for at least 10 more years. Technical work not packed with political hassles and people hassles. Technically challenging is better.

I was totally bored to death in Insanity disco. I know some other discos are better. The music, well it just wasn't music to me. Check Inn band is better for me. Music from many eras. On the other hand I can still enjoy watching good naked bodies dance in Crazy House for a short time.

Also instead of getting a massage (just a waste of time to me) , I can get soft tits on my balls, BJ, nice fuck etc. For a very reasonable fee. Outsourced sex can cost much less for many of us, and we get it when we want it. Go crazy for a couple of days, then back to a moderate life style.

A life of fewer hassles is great. I am sitting outside. Bangkok is not that hot. 20 years ago the air was far cleaner and the sun was far hotter, when its rays would strike you.[/QUOTE]Hey Syzygies,

I'm in about the same situation as you. Counting down the days. I'm a little over 9 years. Have been divorced for 9 years. Get plenty of young stuff here and abroad. Abroad is easier but home isn't that much of a problem either. Just a little more work.

I was in Insanity three weeks ago with my girl, there was a local pop star there. I think his name was Chino or something. My girl was fucking nuts about this guy. I paid a few bucks to get him to pay a little attention to her and got the best lay of the whole trip when we got back to the hotel. But quite frankly that wasn't my scene when I was young and I still don't like it. Too loud and just too much going on. Not to mention the music sucked. Unless you're a Justin Bieber fan. Ha!

Cheers

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1557478]I am very weird (or not)[/QUOTE]Seems to me you are perfectly sane, have your priorities straight, have good taste and make sound decisions. You may be unusual but you're not weird.

[QUOTE=FruitNinja; 1557485]Hey Syzygies,

I'm in about the same situation as you. Counting down the days. I'm a little over 9 years. Have been divorced for 9 years. Get plenty of young stuff here and abroad. Abroad is easier but home isn't that much of a problem either. Just a little more work.

I was in Insanity three weeks ago with my girl, there was a local pop star there. I think his name was Chino or something. My girl was fucking nuts about this guy. I paid a few bucks to get him to pay a little attention to her and got the best lay of the whole trip when we got back to the hotel. But quite frankly that wasn't my scene when I was young and I still don't like it. Too loud and just too much going on. Not to mention the music sucked. Unless you're a Justin Bieber fan. Ha!

Cheers[/QUOTE]Haha! You count your life years from when you got divorced!

There is an old pop star called Dick Chiro, ugly but a good singer, but perhaps not him.