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[QUOTE=SarasotaJoe;2712763]Just out of curiosity, how do you structure a deal like that? 150,000 php ( 2,800 usd) would seem to require a fair amount of trust from one party or the other.[/QUOTE]You all do know that "Cherry Girls" have been sucking dick and possibly taking anal for months or years before they sell their "virginity" to some stupid foreigner willing to pay an obscene amount of money to break a small piece of tissue. Not to mention that the tissue can be reconstructed to re sell "virginity" over and over again. There are a lot of real virgins in the provinces who can be convinced to give it up but that's a while another game.

My first night at Q-Bar there was an 18 year old there who worked there but was hanging out on her day off. The most firm see cups I've felt in my life. No bra, enjoyed having them grabbed under the shirt while we flirted and she gave me lap dances. Since she was off the clock, she said just take me back to your place. Say no more. In the morning I gave her what would have been the barfine. Couple days later I was back at the bar hanging out with some of the girls there and the 18 year old was there working and I mentioned that I knew her. 'She's a cherry girl' they all proclaimed. Um. Yeah, no.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2712867]You all do know that "Cherry Girls" have been sucking dick and possibly taking anal for months or years before they sell their "virginity" to some stupid foreigner willing to pay an obscene amount of money to break a small piece of tissue. Not to mention that the tissue can be reconstructed to re sell "virginity" over and over again. There are a lot of real virgins in the provinces who can be convinced to give it up but that's a while another game.[/QUOTE]The cherry girls are a lie. Haven't you noticed the cherry girls are always the tiny, cute looking girl. Like a Korean style girl and usually the most attractive one in the bar. I've never seen an average looking girl to be marketed as cherry and I believe it's because it's easier to convince gullible foreigners "usually Japanese" into believing that this cute and innocent looking girl is a virgin.

Next time you go out to the bars ask them to point out the cherry girls for you and I dare you to find an average looking or below average looking girl cherry girl. They are always young, cute and tiny.

[QUOTE=BroComplex;2712898]The cherry girls are a lie. Haven't you noticed the cherry girls are always the tiny, cute looking girl. Like a Korean style girl and usually the most attractive one in the bar. I've never seen an average looking girl to be marketed as cherry and I believe it's because it's easier to convince gullible foreigners "usually Japanese" into believing that this cute and innocent looking girl is a virgin.

Next time you go out to the bars ask them to point out the cherry girls for you and I dare you to find an average looking or below average looking girl cherry girl. They are always young, cute and tiny.[/QUOTE]If the girl isn't cherry, and she's cute and sexy, she'll get lots of bar fines. The bar makes money. If she's cherry, no bar fines and the bar can lose lots of money paying her a salary and loaning her money to send to her family while she waits to be barfined. Same with hiring a plain or ugly cherry girl. The bar is investing in the girl. The more attractive she is, they expect a sooner and higher return. If you still think hiring fugly non cherry girls and pretending they're cherry is a good business plan, I have some dogecoins and nft's I can sell you or a beach front mansion on Palawan.

I'm a glass half full kinda guy so I want to believe that 18 yo Filipinas are offering anal to preserve their cherry, but that hasn't been my experience. They don't even offer anal when they're on their mens to get a barfine. Finding an 18 yo noncherry girl that even offers anal is like finding a unicorn. And if you think hymenoplasty to run a cherry scam is a good business idea, I have TONS of nfts and dogecoins for you or a buy one take one special for some private islands with views of Station 2 on Boracay.

I also want to believe that an 18 yo girl gave up life changing money in the Phils for a few hours with FG, but that sounds like something the guy who sold me all these nfts and dogecoins would say. For the girl to get to AC, someone in her province recruited her and paid her travel costs to AC. Then her "mama" is advancing room and board waiting for her to get barfined. Also, the bar owner is paying her salary and probably advancing her money for her family. And if the Phil's can offer hymenoplasty cheap enough to be a solid business plan, they probably have a few doctors who can tell whether the girl is really cherry before all these people start giving her money. So she would have to trick multiple people who are highly invested in her being a real virgin. I've also never met a 18 yo bargirl just hanging out at work on their day off. They normally have to travel 10 to 30 minutes to get to work. They usually work 6 days a week, 14 hours per day, so the last thing they usually want is to go there for free on their one day off. Or have sex on the one day they don't have to have sex. And the "cherry" girls I met all had "sisters" and "aunties" minding them so no one ran off with them and spoiled the mama or owner's investment. But I'm not youngish, "hansum" or fit like FG so I will hope he is living the Tom Cruise with a Ferrari life in AC.

[QUOTE=SarasotaJoe;2712763]Just out of curiosity, how do you structure a deal like that? 150,000 php ( 2,800 usd) would seem to require a fair amount of trust from one party or the other.[/QUOTE]Rational brain: Negotiate price. Negotiate time (days, weeks). Negotiate sex (positions, pops, oral, 2 sum, 3 sum, and according to Expat a free anal test run, etc) Negotiate payment (half up front after doctor of your choosing certifies she's a virgin and balance when time is over, cash, amex and peso or dollar). Buy 1 take 2?

Lizard brain: Can I use Amex plat for points? Better put a towel down. Football stats, baseball stats, Picture Queen Elizabeth, picture. Queen. Elizabeth. Damn it.

[QUOTE=Flak3;2712915]If the girl isn't cherry, and she's cute and sexy, she'll get lots of bar fines. The bar makes money. If she's cherry, no bar fines and the bar can lose lots of money paying her a salary and loaning her money to send to her family while she waits to be barfined. Same with hiring a plain or ugly cherry girl. The bar is investing in the girl. The more attractive she is, they expect a sooner and higher return. If you still think hiring fugly non cherry girls and pretending they're cherry is a good business plan, I have some dogecoins and nft's I can sell you or a beach front mansion on Palawan.

I'm a glass half full kinda guy so I want to believe that 18 yo Filipinas are offering anal to preserve their cherry, but that hasn't been my experience. They don't even offer anal when they're on their mens to get a barfine. Finding an 18 yo noncherry girl that even offers anal is like finding a unicorn. And if you think hymenoplasty to run a cherry scam is a good business idea, I have TONS of nfts and dogecoins for you or a buy one take one special for some private islands with views of Station 2 on Boracay.

I also want to believe that an 18 yo girl gave up life changing money in the Phils for a few hours with FG, but that sounds like something the guy who sold me all these nfts and dogecoins would say. For the girl to get to AC, someone in her province recruited her and paid her travel costs to AC. Then her "mama" is advancing room and board waiting for her to get barfined. Also, the bar owner is paying her salary and probably advancing her money for her family. And if the Phil's can offer hymenoplasty cheap enough to be a solid business plan, they probably have a few doctors who can tell whether the girl is really cherry before all these people start giving her money. So she would have to trick multiple people who are highly invested in her being a real virgin. I've also never met a 18 yo bargirl just hanging out at work on their day off. They normally have to travel 10 to 30 minutes to get to work. They usually work 6 days a week, 14 hours per day, so the last thing they usually want is to go there for free on their one day off. Or have sex on the one day they don't have to have sex. And the "cherry" girls I met all had "sisters" and "aunties" minding them so no one ran off with them and spoiled the mama or owner's investment. But I'm not youngish, "hansum" or fit like FG so I will hope he is living the Tom Cruise with a Ferrari life in AC.[/QUOTE]I think you will find that cherry girls or supposed cherry girls are in extreme demand from the high spending Asians for both sitting for multiple drinks in the bar or for barhop only or for barfines which includes BJ and some girls anal, many cherry girls earn the bar far more than the average bargirl due to cuteness and the innocent manner they either have or pretend to have.

Have had several cherry girls that were up for everything except pussy penetration and I thoroughly enjoyed my time with them. Have a girl on my speed dial that works as a spotlight dancer in probably the biggest bar in angeles, she works there as a supposed cherry, is extremely popular for drinks or barhop only but in truth she is far from a virgin in any orifice.

As far as girls hanging around the bar on days off of course they do simply because 99% of all bargirls live on site in the free lodgings provided by the bar, said lodgings are depressing and no air con,1 fan for 10-20 girls so why not hang around in the cold air con of the bar, listen to music, talk to your friends and maybe earn some extra money.

[QUOTE=Flak3;2712915] I also want to believe that an 18 yo girl gave up life changing money in the Phils for a few hours with FG, but that sounds like something the guy who sold me all these nfts and dogecoins would say.[/QUOTE]Haaaa. I am not so foolish as to believe that I de-virginized a cherry girl with no upfront negotiation and the price of a barfine. She runs her business as she sees fit and good for her. She was a nice girl. I didn't tell her coworkers the specifics. If she decided to tell them that we just did a BJ and cuddled, then that's cool with me. And she was definitely off the clock that first night, as management certainly does not let a girl just leave with a fella no questions asked. I barfined her from Q-Bar on subsequent visits when she was working, and also off the clock occasionally when she would text me. One of my few repeats. Yes, a lot of the girls travel daily to AC, but, Q-bar and Lollipop are owned by the same group, and 20-40 girls (damn these girls can't estimate) from those bars live in the same house right next to Central Park, subsidized by the company. If you're staying there they will see you during the day and you'll see them, and the gossip will run rampant. Which kinda sucks because in my opinion those are the two best bars. Point is, they live in the city. Some of them hang out and party there on their days off.

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[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2689932]There is not a prostitute the world over that would undersell herself so the only thousand pesos girls one might find is a homeless crackhead with only one tooth in their mouth.

Older fat girls with well below average looks are demanding 3,000 pesos short time one pop.

Slightly less fat older girls are demanding 4,000 pesos short time one pop.

Although almost impossible to find if one is lucky enough to find a mid-20's girl that is not fat and with just okay looks then expect the princess to be demanding in excessive 5,000 pesos short time one pop.

Welcome to the new Angeles city.[/QUOTE]According to you, only fugly crackheads undersell themselves. You're getting "cherry" girls for anal, BJ, or sex (your spotlight dancer at the biggest bar) below value. Ergo you're getting fugly crackhead cherry girls?

Why are these in extreme demand cherry girls underselling themselves to you, when they could sit in a bar and get commission and not do anything. Does your dick taste like rainbows and make their ass shit gold?

Is every cherry girl really cherry. Maybe not. Is every cherry girl fake. Probably not. Is every cherry girl giving out hj, bj and anal to every Octogenarian they meet like high fives after winning the Superbowl... LOLOL

I'm done, I just reported what I saw. Y'all can believe and claim what you want.

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[QUOTE=Flak3;2713251]According to you, only fugly crackheads undersell themselves. You're getting "cherry" girls for anal, BJ, or sex (your spotlight dancer at the biggest bar) below value. Ergo you're getting fugly crackhead cherry girls?

Why are these in extreme demand cherry girls underselling themselves to you, when they could sit in a bar and get commission and not do anything. Does your dick taste like rainbows and make their ass shit gold?

Is every cherry girl really cherry. Maybe not. Is every cherry girl fake. Probably not. Is every cherry girl giving out hj, bj and anal to every Octogenarian they meet like high fives after winning the Superbowl... LOLOL

I'm done, I just reported what I saw. Y'all can believe and claim what you want.[/QUOTE]Please point out where I said that I was under paying for any of my girls whether they be cherry or otherwise.

In fact if you bother to read my posts I'm clearly saying the opposite of your claims and so is Mr E.

Maybe putting the bottle down and reading carefully what other board members have written before abusing said members will serve you better.

Not sure how this became argumentative. I'm all for people spending their money however they please in PH. Hell I'd rather give it to a province girl and her family than to a million other people in LA.

As for cherry girls. This last trip the topic was only brought up once in the context I described. But I remember on previous trips, at the Saturday pool party at Score Birds (when will these come back? They were good times) before the actual show with the models, there were like 20 super young looking, mostly squatty chubby girls in the pool playing games and goofing around, and I was told these were the 'cherry girls'. I had no interest in any. Then I would see these same type of girls in Atlantis and Dollhouse and was told again that these were the cherry girls. I have no aspirations to de-virginize anyone and certainly not these ones. As for spotlight girls, this trip was the first time I heard that term and it's true those were usually the upper echelon, at least in looks.

Finally back in Angeles after the lockdown. My last visit was in December 2019. It appears Angeles is more or less back. Of course some places are closed and the cost of the drinks and bar fine gone up. But, no shortage of girls.

Regular drink cost between 70 to 150. It really depends on the bar you walk in to. Lady drink costs seem little bit consistent in the range of 300 to 350. ST rate between 2. 5 to 3. 5 and LT between 3 to 4. All this based on the clubs I visited yesterday. I didn't go to Atlantis, XS etc. , May be they are pricier, I don't know yet.

Doable cute girls with little body damage can be found even after 8. If one don't mind hopping the bars, he can find the one that appeals to his taste. The type of bars that were once indifferent to customers other than Korean / Japanese are more welcoming everyone now (by the way, I'm an Indian and my friend is a Malaysian).

We bar hopped till very late, met a few cuties but didn't bar fine any one. However, one girl kept in touch and wanted to come over after work. I asked her about her expectations and she responded with what I mean by that. I decided to go with the flow and didn't push further.

She did turn up as promised. Things were going fine until she spotted blood on my dick. Thank god I was wearing condom but it still freaked me out. I rushed to the bathroom and washed it off. Quite a bit of blood and later I found that she stained the towels. Luckily I was able to wash off the stains. Also, I was banging her on the table so the bed luckily escaped. She kept saying that she had her period the previous week and said the blood may be because I was banging her hard. I found it hard to believe. I'm not that well endowed to tear a bar girls well weathered pussy. Anyway, she offered to finish me off with a blow job and left in a hour. I put 1000 pesos in her handbag and send her off.

Today morning I was in the room (central park) when the cleaners came. She did spot the blood stains on the floor and on the table and asked what is this. I just said blood and kept mum. She gave a look and continued her cleaning.

The girl already video called after she woke up. Now I'm an in a fix. There are other cuties in the bar she is working and I was planning to bar fine them today. Now if I do, she may get offended but her bar (name is 123) is one of those with cute girls with better bodies. What do you suggest? Should I avoid bar fining from this bar or just go ahead?

[QUOTE=WildInstincts;2714931]Now I'm an in a fix. There are other cuties in the bar she is working and I was planning to bar fine them today. Now if I do, she may get offended but her bar (name is 123) is one of those with cute girls with better bodies. What do you suggest? Should I avoid bar fining from this bar or just go ahead?[/QUOTE]Have you ever been to a food court? If you eat at one place one day and go back the next day to eat at another place, are you in a fix or worried about offending the people at the stall you ate from the day before? Business was completed at the first place now you should feel free to take lunch at the others. Why would you feel that you are cheating on a hooker and must disguise dealings with other hookers?

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Doable cute girls with little body damage can be found even after 8. If one don't mind hopping the bars, he can find the one that appeals to his taste. [/QUOTE]I never did find when the best time to hit the bars is in order to pick up the best girls before they get snatched up. Does anyone know what time the "prime" shift for girls starts? I always thought the best looking girls didn't show up until 8 pm in most places so that's when I always began my hunting. Should I be starting earlier?