Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1558014]Although some guys don't like lube, I always have some at my room. Otherwise trying to apply spit every minute is a bit much. With no lube, there can be limitations on how long before the condom starts rubbing her skin abrasively.

No lube could be very good reason why she did not want to fuck again or an excuse. She should have her own, but not all girls expect the guy to fuck for any significant duration. I always have my own "comfort" condoms as well, as they are thinner, easy on, easy off, and feel better generally.[/QUOTE]Point taken. I took your advice and bought some KY this afternoon.

[QUOTE=BionicMan;1558025]She probably see you as a good walking ATM willing to pay for each and everything and not putting her pussy at work.[/QUOTE]Yeah I got that feeling and I feel choosing a girl based purely on looks and a little eye contact probably isn't enough to know how she'll perform. Extra communication is required at the club but as we were eager to go and head back to the hotel I didn't do my homework.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1558229]Huh? Really? Almost 200 USD for LT? I guess with drinks you did hit the 200 point. Jeez. That is amazingly pricey.[/QUOTE]I thought that 5000 for LT was standard at a bar like Rainbow. Any advice regarding Rainbow or suggestion of another club that is less for LT? I don't want to be one of the guys that jacks up the price for others!

Hi guys,

Second day in Thailand started off with girl leaving around 7 in the morning. Didn't do much in the day except smoked some cigars and had drinks at patio bar.

We decided to head to Climax that evening for some clubbing but went to Soi Cowboy earlier to have some beers and just look at some talent. We went to Baccara first and saw the club was a little more than half full but the stage was still full of girls. Nothing of particular to note at the club this time, however noticed the girls did look younger on average to girls at Nana. Finished one beer at Baccara then go next door to Shark. Shark was a lot quieter with less girls working and less then half the club full, however the music was better and the talent was better. Around 1:30am observed the club begin to get busier and like magic more girls appeared. We left the club soon after and headed to Climax.

Arrived around 2:20am great band and music playing already (mostly top 40 stuff with local pop songs mixed in for variety). We got a few bottles and was led to a table near front of stage. While walking saw many good looking girls but many with guys already. Around 3:30am I see an increase in girls in club possibly from the Nana and Soi closing. Started dancing with a girl, Kip around this time. She is a approx. 5'3, about 125lbs, a bit thicker around the hips and bum area, enhanced chest Ds, long straight black hair with brown highlights, approx. 32-34, darker complexion and spoke better than average English which was a huge turn on after the previous night. We dance and flirt for a while and eventually say I am going back to hotel and asked her to join me (unsure if she is going to be a regular pick up or working girl at this point). She says okay but asks me if I will pay her. I was happy she was honest and upfront so I say 1500. She tells me 1500 is okay for ST, which I was happy with.

Back at hotel. She starts by saying she needs to use the washroom so I watch a bit of TV. After she comes out she begins doing a short strip show for me with my iPod playing. I go take a shower after this (didn't want to shower together) then she goes and does the same. In bed we start kissing and fondling for a bit, she then starts giving me a BBBJ; saw that I liked my balls and ass licked and gave me a bit of a tongue lashing. Put on a condom after this and we start missionary for a bit and she surprised me with her flexibility by putting her knees next to her head. Turned her around went doggy for a while, when I was ready to pop I ask for CIM. She was agreeable, took off my dome and began to pump me and tongue my ass. I ended up CIM and CIF.

She cleaned herself up and we had some small talk for a few minutes with her stroking me. She sees that I am ready again and starts with BBBJ again (I didn't get a chance to clean myself up at this point) which surprised me. I dome up again and she starts riding me cowgirl. I ended up CIM again. I guess we were both exhausted after the second time because the next thing I knew it was 9am and her phone was ringing non stop. She turns off the ringer and tells me her boss at the salon (she is a hairdresser apparently) was calling to get her in to work. So one more pop before I think she needs to go. I shower afterwards and see she is getting dressed. We make plans to meet up later in the week and she kisses me and leaves. I realize I hadn't payed her so told her to come back in. I ended up giving her 2500 cause of the overall experience and because I probably won't see her again.

Looks. 6/10

Massage. N / A

Service. 8/10 (GFE)

Overall Experience. 8/10

*the fact we specified on 1500 for short time and her staying until 10 AND not asking for money when she left made this experience very enjoyable.

More to come.

Veilside

[QUOTE=Puttex;1558231]Can someone post a list of the gogos in Cowboy and Nana that has a ST-room upstairs at there club?[/QUOTE]As others point out there is a ST Hotel close by in any case. In cowboy we have Penny Black (at Soi Asoke end of Cowboy) and also Asoke Place round the corner.

Bars in Cowboy that definitely have a room upstairs for sex: Suzie Wong, Doll House, Midnight, and their is bound to be more. I don't usually use this this service, but its important for certain girls. ST Hotels don't check the Ids of girls or their customers. So its possible a girl could be even not a Thai national. I avoid mentioning the forbidden subject. LOL

One of my favourite girls (aged 25) actually comes from just across the border of Thailand, and speaks Thai not quite perfectly, although can read Thai maybe same standard as me. Her "Suk" meaning happy sounds a bit more like "Sok".

[QUOTE=IloveTits; 1558024]Hi guys,

I like being in a bathtub or jacuzzi with the girls but I'm very tall. (196cm. 6'5")

I tried Annies but it too small for any action. Does anyone knows an oily or soapy with a big bathtub or jacuzzi.

Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]Most Soapies have a large bathtub or Jacuzzi. E. G. Amsterdam, Poseidon, etc. I don't like the tub at La Belle and actually I don't like most girls there as well. I haven't had much good luck there, other than one girl. Too much fake stuff generally for me to pick the girls with good performance reputation. Check web sites for pictures of the rooms.

Some suggested Ankara (Angara). I'm not sure why. Its one of the more obscure places in a small Soi of Petchburi road, that hardly anyone ever reports on. I went in there once many years ago. Line-up was small and not to my liking at the time. They have Arabic writing at this shop too, I think. Someone can correct me, but I doubt if this is one of the top places. Its so long since I heard anything about this one, so I could be wrong.

Pink Massage has a special room with good Jacuzzi, however I quit going there after Gaew left. Check out the various Oily web sites to see which have a Jacuzzi. Most normal oily places, I actually prefer to shower with a girl rather than get in the bathtub together (if it is smallish). So I understand small tubs are not that great. So consider having fun in the shower and forgetting tub altogether in Oilies. Many Oilies don't have tubs anyway.

[QUOTE=Gorgon;1558051]What I'd like to know is how to set up that much talked about hanky panky on location.[/QUOTE]You have to buy girls tequilas for 150 Baht each if you expect to get to molest them. Alternatively good tips may work (not 20 baht). Choose one of the completely naked girls is the best bet.

Go in and watch what the other guys are doing. I am groping the girls very little compared to the norm, so I would not be a good teacher. To me, touching their tits a little is fairly mild groping if done in a nice way (hard squeezing is out). Almost any girl will allow that at least. I often am reluctant to grope their pussy, unless the girl directs my hand there and clearly wants it.

I would tend to go into a lower class place if I wanted to play no holds barred (like SOL) , including pussy play and licking, BJ and sex on the spot.

In Crazy House I don't know. Hold out your crooked finger, and see if the girl wants to slide her pussy onto it. Some girls possibly will. Most others would not do it nor allow it. It depends on how wayward is the particular girl. It does happen.

Last night went to Huay Khwang night market about 1AM. It was still not closed at 2AM, so I don't know when it shuts down.

A lot of "fabulous" looking white skinned Thai girls shopping for medicine, cosmetics, shoes, etc. I say fabulous because I am sure they are stunners in the eyes of many Thais, Japanese, and Westerners. These are the night time working girls from Ratchada, Petchburi, from Soapies, Karaokes, Coyotes, etc. And from wherever. 90% of them had nose jobs, light skin and a high percentage of big obviously siliconised tits.

Many of these girls could have potentially looked great to me too without the nose jobs. I just don't like the fake nose look much. This limits my choices in Ratchada Soapies a lot, but fortunately there are a small percentage of girls with natural good noses. There was not one I really fancied over my long time GF. Silicone and strange shaped noses fail to impress me.

I was with GF and her brother. She stood out against most girls there due to a natural good nose and a bit darker skin. Her body is just as good as the other girls, or maybe better curves than many.

Early in the evening I had a chance to stop by Crazy House for a very short time. One girl I know was keen for me to BF her, but I was non committal. Actually was still looking for the "Yok look-alike" May, after she had been missing a couple of days. Finally spotted her get up to dance. Very hot body, very dark nipples on lightish skin, dances hot, and okay face (not quite stunning but cute). Shortly after the phone rings and I have to leave go pick up the GF. So no chance to do May, but eventually get a nice session with GF instead (no risk of a weak session). Maybe some day will get a chance to try May.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1558495]Last night went to Huay Khwang night market about 1AM. It was still not closed at 2AM, so I don't know when it shuts down.

A lot of "fabulous" looking white skinned Thai girls shopping for medicine, cosmetics, shoes, etc. I say fabulous because I am sure they are stunners in the eyes of many Thais, Japanese, and Westerners. These are the night time working girls from Ratchada, Petchburi, from Soapies, Karaokes, Coyotes, etc. And from wherever. 90% of them had nose jobs, light skin and a high percentage of big obviously siliconised tits.

Many of these girls could have potentially looked great to me too without the nose jobs. I just don't like the fake nose look much. This limits my choices in Ratchada Soapies a lot, but fortunately there are a small percentage of girls with natural good noses. There was not one I really fancied over my long time GF. Silicone and strange shaped noses fail to impress me.

I was with GF and her brother. She stood out against most girls there due to a natural good nose and a bit darker skin. Her body is just as good as the other girls, or maybe better curves than many.

Early in the evening I had a chance to stop by Crazy House for a very short time. One girl I know was keen for me to BF her, but I was non committal. Actually was still looking for the "Yok look-alike" May, after she had been missing a couple of days. Finally spotted her get up to dance. Very hot body, very dark nipples on lightish skin, dances hot, and okay face (not quite stunning but cute). Shortly after the phone rings and I have to leave go pick up the GF. So no chance to do May, but eventually get a nice session with GF instead (no risk of a weak session). Maybe some day will get a chance to try May.[/QUOTE]Syz, not aware of seeing any nose jobs. What am I missing? Picture?

I spent 2 nights here. I rarely came to this town since 5-6 years ago, for me I know the best times in BKK is done already. I checked out many of these famous establishments, Rainbow1, 2.4, very disappointed, out of 3 shops, I could not find anyone worth the mim 2000+600+ST room+drinks. Majority of girls are with artificial parts, boobs, nose, most obvious.

I played through late 90's till 06-07 in Bangkok, I know difference, people who frequent BKK through the late 90's and come back BKK today, I think it's going to be a disappointment. There are 10 times more venues for girls to work, and and the better economic progress, means more Thai guys can pick out the nice ones as mistresses or giks, and take them out of the market.

I remember the hey days over 15 years ago, when Nana ladies dance all nude to show their products and asked 1000 ST, and lots of quality to pick from, all give nice BBBJ, that is only a ghost memory now.

I also checked out Thermae 2 times, this place is still very crowded, but the level has also gone straight down compared to the hey days of 10-15 years ago, I could only find about 2-3 doable out of maybe over 100 each night, I am not talking about cuties, but only doable, and the price is getting absurd, these better ones are asking 2000-2500, and very firm at mim 2000 ST. I did not have much interest, but as a test for the market, these few I consider doable are very firm on this standard price, so since my last trip in Thermae a few years back, the standard price for these better ones is up 500-1000 again, a few years back, no one asked 2000ST. 2500 will be a joke then, and nowadays these that are asking this price are not even semi-cutie, only younger, slender, passable. I could see the big increase in Koreans, and maybe they also contributed to the inflation.

I think I am one of the dinosaurs members here, I see the rise and fall of Chang Ping, from a little known dusty industrial town, to a full blown wild sex town to now a almost ghost town, I predicted this to happen over 10 years ago, I also see the good value, good quality, good service of BKK, to now a bad value, bad service, bad quality now, I also predicted this long time ago. I am more of a pessimist, I think all three monger elements, value, quality and service will continue to decline in BKK, because the international buyers would pay more and more, and the local suppliers would ask more and more, the trend continues here.

Time is changing to quick for me in this town, it will be just a transit town for me,

I will continue to sneak around off the beaten path for greener pastures.

[QUOTE=RCA Knight; 1558544]I spent 2 nights here. I rarely came to this town since 5-6 years ago, for me I know the best times in BKK is done already. I checked out many of these famous establishments, Rainbow1, 2.4, very disappointed, out of 3 shops, I could not find anyone worth the mim 2000+600+ST room+drinks. Majority of girls are with artificial parts, boobs, nose, most obvious.

I played through late 90's till 06-07 in Bangkok, I know difference, people who frequent BKK through the late 90's and come back BKK today, I think it's going to be a disappointment. There are 10 times more venues for girls to work, and and the better economic progress, means more Thai guys can pick out the nice ones as mistresses or giks, and take them out of the market.[/QUOTE]While one cannot fight the P4P quality downhill trend, in fact its worldwide, and combined with the collateral issue of crackdowns in AC, southern China, Sosua to name just a few locales, large price increases all over the place, with globalization, the internet, and smart phones now even impacting attitudes and prices in emerging markets like Burma. The point is I just don't see how "artificial parts" in most cases should make all that much of a difference. I mean under that standard even many of the world class beauties one routinely sees at Terminal 21, Siam, and elsewhere around this town on a day to day basis, I guess wouldn't be consider hot? let alone NFL Cheerleaders, Playboy Models, Victoria's Secret Models, and probably most of the contestants in the Miss Universe Contest. While I admit for example nose jobs can be questionable, many Issan girls in fact have the procedure done for good reason. Do you consider capped teeth also an artificial part hindering a woman's attractiveness?

[QUOTE=RCA Knight; 1558544]I think I am one of the dinosaurs members here, I see the rise and fall of Chang Ping, from a little known dusty industrial town, to a full blown wild sex town to now a almost ghost town, I predicted this to happen over 10 years ago, I also see the good value, good quality, good service of BKK, to now a bad value, bad service, bad quality now, I also predicted this long time ago. I am more of a pessimist, I think all three monger elements, value, quality and service will continue to decline in BKK, because the international buyers would pay more and more, and the local suppliers would ask more and more, the trend continues here.

Time is changing to quick for me in this town, it will be just a transit town for me,

I will continue to sneak around off the beaten path for greener pastures.[/QUOTE]I understand where you come from. I started here about 21 years ago.

I also dislike all the fakes at R1 to R4, Baccara & Sharks. The nude girls in Crazy House definitely look better.

Yes prices rise. Soi 11 BBQ wanted 40 Baht for a chicken drumstick. No thigh. Seems rather high.

Some good natural girls around but supply of these with good GFE service seems a lot weaker than years ago.

Have to be prepared to look around and realize that you are probably a lot fussier than 15 years back. Fond memories of Thermae 1 and Thermae Soapy from the distant past and nude girls at Lollipop and pretty Lady Nana probably 15 years back.

[QUOTE=Western787;1558668]While I admit for example nose jobs can be questionable, many Issan girls in fact have the procedure done for good reason. Do you consider capped teeth also an artificial part hindering a woman's attractiveness?[/QUOTE]Of course capped teeth is not a problem. Hopefully not a distracting thing. If a nose job is undetectable then obviously I won't mind. It's just how strange these noses generally look. The piggy look or the bird beak look. Freak show. Same if a tit job is really subtle still soft and nicely shaped I can accept it, but 2 coconuts I cannot accept. We are looking for beautiful natural curves more than a distracting freak look.

So many girls in Baccara really look similar to or remind me of ladyboys. I just cannot select that type of girl. Then their are the weird hairstyles that look like wigs.

Youth does not equal beauty. The true beauties have mostly gone. I guess we are dinosaurs as plenty of people are liking Baccara. Interestingly my Japanese buddy with a lot of experience with natural European girls, also does not like Baccara. He likes the Thermae where can check chemistry with the girl for an extended time first.

Just remember guys, If you can't find a nice 20 something in LOS, you can always go back home and get you a 50 or 60 year old. Something more age appropriate. LOL.

Most of the ladies we critique here, we would low crawl through broken glass to get to in our own countries.

You want to feel really special, think of some of your friends in the west and what they are rolling over to everynight.

I feel two of mans greatest inventions are, the airplane and p4p.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1558495]Last night went to Huay Khwang night market about 1AM. It was still not closed at 2AM, so I don't know when it shuts down.

A lot of "fabulous" looking white skinned Thai girls shopping for medicine, cosmetics, shoes, etc. I say fabulous because I am sure they are stunners in the eyes of many Thais, Japanese, and Westerners. These are the night time working girls from Ratchada, Petchburi, from Soapies, Karaokes, Coyotes, etc. And from wherever. 90% of them had nose jobs, light skin and a high percentage of big obviously siliconised tits.

Many of these girls could have potentially looked great to me too without the nose jobs. I just don't like the fake nose look much. This limits my choices in Ratchada Soapies a lot, but fortunately there are a small percentage of girls with natural good noses. There was not one I really fancied over my long time GF. Silicone and strange shaped noses fail to impress me.

I was with GF and her brother. She stood out against most girls there due to a natural good nose and a bit darker skin. Her body is just as good as the other girls, or maybe better curves than many.

Early in the evening I had a chance to stop by Crazy House for a very short time. One girl I know was keen for me to BF her, but I was non committal. Actually was still looking for the "Yok look-alike" May, after she had been missing a couple of days. Finally spotted her get up to dance. Very hot body, very dark nipples on lightish skin, dances hot, and okay face (not quite stunning but cute). Shortly after the phone rings and I have to leave go pick up the GF. So no chance to do May, but eventually get a nice session with GF instead (no risk of a weak session). Maybe some day will get a chance to try May.[/QUOTE]I don't mind nose jobs if they are well executed. Too often they end up with a combination turned up pig nose-Michael Jackson look, which is just awful. The good ones, well, you can't even tell. My gal has some friends that have had very good nose jobs. They look fantastic.

[QUOTE=TellAll; 1558713]Just remember guys, If you can't find a nice 20 something in LOS, you can always go back home and get you a 50 or 60 year old. Something more age appropriate. LOL.

Most of the ladies we critique here, we would low crawl through broken glass to get to in our own countries.

You want to feel really special, think of some of your friends in the west and what they are rolling over to everynight.

I feel two of mans greatest inventions are, the airplane and p4p.[/QUOTE]The mere fact that some can still monger in Bangkok (with women often 2 to 3 decades younger) while having such exacting, particular, and specific criteria, by itself tells us this market, despite the longer term trend, is far from hitting bottom.

While "model" 9's are rare and the macro trend is not good, most guys in year 2014 still won't have much trouble finding a lot of hot girls to sleep with.

Its very easy in this town to become complacent and lose touch with reality, so one must always guard against it.

[QUOTE=RCA Knight; 1558544]I spent 2 nights here. I rarely came to this town since 5-6 years ago, for me I know the best times in BKK is done already. I checked out many of these famous establishments, Rainbow1, 2.4, very disappointed, out of 3 shops, I could not find anyone worth the mim 2000+600+ST room+drinks. Majority of girls are with artificial parts, boobs, nose, most obvious.

I played through late 90's till 06-07 in Bangkok, I know difference, people who frequent BKK through the late 90's and come back BKK today, I think it's going to be a disappointment. There are 10 times more venues for girls to work, and and the better economic progress, means more Thai guys can pick out the nice ones as mistresses or giks, and take them out of the market.

I remember the hey days over 15 years ago, when Nana ladies dance all nude to show their products and asked 1000 ST, and lots of quality to pick from, all give nice BBBJ, that is only a ghost memory now.

I also checked out Thermae 2 times, this place is still very crowded, but the level has also gone straight down compared to the hey days of 10-15 years ago, I could only find about 2-3 doable out of maybe over 100 each night, I am not talking about cuties, but only doable, and the price is getting absurd, these better ones are asking 2000-2500, and very firm at mim 2000 ST. I did not have much interest, but as a test for the market, these few I consider doable are very firm on this standard price, so since my last trip in Thermae a few years back, the standard price for these better ones is up 500-1000 again, a few years back, no one asked 2000ST. 2500 will be a joke then, and nowadays these that are asking this price are not even semi-cutie, only younger, slender, passable. I could see the big increase in Koreans, and maybe they also contributed to the inflation.

I think I am one of the dinosaurs members here, I see the rise and fall of Chang Ping, from a little known dusty industrial town, to a full blown wild sex town to now a almost ghost town, I predicted this to happen over 10 years ago, I also see the good value, good quality, good service of BKK, to now a bad value, bad service, bad quality now, I also predicted this long time ago. I am more of a pessimist, I think all three monger elements, value, quality and service will continue to decline in BKK, because the international buyers would pay more and more, and the local suppliers would ask more and more, the trend continues here.

Time is changing to quick for me in this town, it will be just a transit town for me,

I will continue to sneak around off the beaten path for greener pastures.[/QUOTE]RCA Knight, I could not agree with you more. There are lots of good looking gals in BKK, but very few real lookers (in my eyes) in the P4P scene.

And yes, it will continue to decline. All of those monger elements you list.

What's left? Maybe Jakarta, as it is not a destination that people go to live.

Disagree about Thermae thought. Although I have not pulled there for a long time, I do find the girls there quite attractive. Of course my eyes have become more "Asian" as the time passes here and I am not attracted to dark skinned, square jawed, high cheekboned Isaan women any more.