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[QUOTE=Steve9696;2313755]Those of us stateside live to read the The Adventures of FL Hawk. Rock on soldier![/QUOTE]Those of us who live in Thailand live to read the Chronicles of FL Hawk.
[QUOTE=JohnnyVegas;2313628]HAPPY A-Go-Go.......BF now is 1200 [/QUOTE]
FYI this is on the low end of gogo barfines. 3000 ST for the girl is negotiable with the girl.
Didn't know barfine at Windmill was only 700 baht. Goes to show the last time I saw someone I was even interested in at Windmill.
I am from South India and I've been to Thailand 7 times in the last 3 years and Pattaya has become close to my second home. What baffled me is when I tried to get in to the below bars.
Baccara Agogo. Entry Denied.
Peppermint. Hit and miss.
Skyfall. Entry Denied.
The Dollhouse. Entry Denied.
Every time I try to enter the above bars I will be stopped by the security stating 'Entry for members only' and they never let me in. I understand that they stopped letting Indians into the bar due to a few Indians misbehaving inside the bar and doing their best to show off their cheap Charlie nature. I mean come on, there has to be a way for an Indian to get into Baccara, this bar has been on my bucket list ever since the beginning and unfortunately never had the privilege to enter the bar.
I never had any problems with other agogo's and they let me in with a smile, I've build quite a rapport with the mamasan in Crazy House agogo, the entire bar members remembers me and welcomes me like I'm some sort of superstar. 'The reason being that I've spent a lot of money on lady drinks and I'm okay with it. '.
This I understand, bars treat you well if your pockets are deep enough. But what I cannot digest is how am I supposed to show the bars like Baccara that I am not a cheap charlie so that they can let me in. Could someone here let me know the magic word that I need to use to get in?
They let people like the Chinese, Japanese and Americans inside with a blink of an eye because they spend quite a lot and to be frank I can spend too. BF has increased a lot now but I really wish to enter Baccara once. If someone here could let me know how to get in to the above bars that would be really helpful.
P.S: I dress very well, every girl I've been with always complimented how I always smell good. I make sure that I don't sweat because few girls told me that they deny Indians because they reek of body odour and sweat. I don't mean to disrespect any of my brothers in India, but this is the hard truth that I have heard from all the girls I've been with.
[QUOTE=YearOfMonk;2313256]My question to experts here is, since most girls on TF, TC etc. Are freelancers, so should I pay more than 3 k for LT? Or in other words, what are the going rates for LT these days? I know there is no set pattern to this, & each Girl warrants her own price, but I don't want to be conned, so seeking advice from experts here.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]No, you shouldn't. The average going rates on TF and Tinder are 1000-1500 BHT for ST and 1600-2000 BHT for LT.
So I first started coming to Pattaya back in 2005. I come back about once every two years or such. This time, even though its low season, the prices have surprised me.
I know prices change over time, but its just not financially attractive at the gogo's anymore.
My first stop was at Kittens for a BJ upstairs. The girl was kinda cute but put up a fight to take her top off. The BJ was slightly mechanical as well. I managed to slide a finger in her pussy but she wasnt all that receptive.
My next stop was at Club 4. Now this place is a little off the beaten track but very much worth a visit. So my reviews of the place said that the girls were pretty and liked to suck for about 800-900 baht. When I walked in, I did find a very enthusiastic girl who was quite cute and we went upstairs. I was told the price was 1 k and I could fuck her if I wanted. Hmmm ok that seems reasonable. After I had finished, I also found out it was another 350 for the bar downstairs. So my 800 adventure became a 1350 adventure. All in all though, you will get good service at Club 4.
Now I haven't bar fined a girl from a gogo since 2009 because prices were just nuts. But I got an update at Sugarbaby where the barfine was 1 k and the girl wanted 3 k for st. I did my typical laugh with a "who do you think you are kidding?" and the girl was straight up with "all girls are 3 k ST". Hard pass.
Also its getting harder to find the "dirtier gogos". Like I don't want to come and just see women in bikinis, I want to see them fully nude. Now my go to's for this are Windmill, Sugarbaby and Kink. There used to be way more like X-Zone, Club Boesche but it seems that Pattaya is becoming tamer.
Any other recommendations for fully nude Gogo's?
[QUOTE=Danubius;2313831]No, you shouldn't. The average going rates on TF and Tinder are 1000-1500 BHT for ST and 1600-2000 BHT for LT.[/QUOTE]As of April 1, when I was in the ground in Pattaya, TF ladies ST- no more than 1500- most you could get 2 x for that price, 2000 always was good for LT, 10% tip will insure repeat would be no issue.
Cheers and good luck.
[QUOTE=Hades;2313872]My first stop was at Kittens for a BJ upstairs. [/QUOTE]Where is Kittens?
[QUOTE=Hades;2313872]My next stop was at Club 4. <snip> the girls were pretty and liked to suck for about 800-900 baht. When I walked in, I did find a very enthusiastic girl who was quite cute and we went upstairs. I was told the price was 1 k and I could fuck her if I wanted. Hmmm ok that seems reasonable. After I had finished, I also found out it was another 350 for the bar downstairs. So my 800 adventure became a 1350 adventure. [/QUOTE]If I understood this correctly girls were quoting you 800-900 baht at a BJ bar. FYI BJ price is 500 baht at a BJ bar or G Club. Sex 1000. If you were last here 2 years ago you may have forgotten that there has always been a barfine at Soi 6 and these types of bars. 2 years ago I believe it was still 300 barfine.
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Any other recommendations for fully nude Gogo's?[/QUOTE]
Electric Blue. I believe XXX upstairs at Dollhouse.
[QUOTE=Raphael92;2313820]I mean come on, there has to be a way for an Indian to get into Baccara, this bar has been on my bucket list ever since the beginning and unfortunately never had the privilege to enter the bar.[/QUOTE]Talk to a couple of young Japanese or Korean guys and let them know you will pay for their first drink if they say you are with them. Pretty sure Baccara and Skyfall won't be denying entry.
Baccara's current lineup is no better than Palace or Sensations now. You can try Pin Up and Panda as well. Missing out on Baccara is not the end of the world and not bucket list worthy! Too many other gogo bars to be worried about Baccara.
[QUOTE=Hades;2313872]So I first started coming to Pattaya back in 2005. I come back about once every two years or such. This time, even though its low season, the prices have surprised me.
I know prices change over time, but its just not financially attractive at the gogo's anymore.
My first stop was at Kittens for a BJ upstairs. The girl was kinda cute but put up a fight to take her top off. The BJ was slightly mechanical as well. I managed to slide a finger in her pussy but she wasnt all that receptive.
My next stop was at Club 4. Now this place is a little off the beaten track but very much worth a visit. So my reviews of the place said that the girls were pretty and liked to suck for about 800-900 baht. When I walked in, I did find a very enthusiastic girl who was quite cute and we went upstairs. I was told the price was 1 k and I could fuck her if I wanted. Hmmm ok that seems reasonable. After I had finished, I also found out it was another 350 for the bar downstairs. So my 800 adventure became a 1350 adventure. All in all though, you will get good service at Club 4.
Now I haven't bar fined a girl from a gogo since 2009 because prices were just nuts. But I got an update at Sugarbaby where the barfine was 1 k and the girl wanted 3 k for st. I did my typical laugh with a "who do you think you are kidding?" and the girl was straight up with "all girls are 3 k ST". Hard pass.
Also its getting harder to find the "dirtier gogos". Like I don't want to come and just see women in bikinis, I want to see them fully nude. Now my go to's for this are Windmill, Sugarbaby and Kink. There used to be way more like X-Zone, Club Boesche but it seems that Pattaya is becoming tamer.
Any other recommendations for fully nude Gogo's?[/QUOTE]Of all the Go Go's in Pattaya I like Dollhouse for full nudity and hands on. If you are Indian don't go in the front on Soi 15, they have a back entrance as you are going up Soi 15 to Dollhouse, after the old Angel Witch location there is a small tight alley on the left you will see a number of food carts walk through and make a right look up and you will see a sign XXX that is Dollhouse upstairs VIP, there is normally no door person there normally.
[QUOTE=Raphael92;2313820]I am from South India and I've been to Thailand 7 times in the last 3 years and Pattaya has become close to my second home. What baffled me is when I tried to get in to the below bars.
Baccara Agogo. Entry Denied.
Peppermint. Hit and miss.
Skyfall. Entry Denied.
The Dollhouse. Entry Denied.
Every time I try to enter the above bars I will be stopped by the security stating 'Entry for members only' and they never let me in. I understand that they stopped letting Indians into the bar due to a few Indians misbehaving inside the bar and doing their best to show off their cheap Charlie nature. I mean come on, there has to be a way for an Indian to get into Baccara, this bar has been on my bucket list ever since the beginning and unfortunately never had the privilege to enter the bar.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=BananaBoi;2313946]Talk to a couple of young Japanese or Korean guys and let them know you will pay for their first drink if they say you are with them. Pretty sure Baccara and Skyfall won't be denying entry.
Baccara's current lineup is no better than Palace or Sensations now. You can try Pin Up and Panda as well. Missing out on Baccara is not the end of the world and not bucket list worthy! Too many other gogo bars to be worried about Baccara.[/QUOTE]Don't worry too much chum. I am Indian myself and well dressed when I go to walking street. I just tip the doormen. It helps me get in and also the most beautiful girls in Pattaya. I am sure if go to Palace, Sensations, Pin up, Panda or Baccara, I can be like a king in those clubs. I think it's all about how you treat the girls not how much you drink. So that's my advice and you will be able to get inside, plus the hottest girls will swarm over you. Don't give up.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2313940]Where is Kittens?
[/QUOTE]I think its on Soi 13/3. Closer to second road than beach road. Girls there arent half bad.
[QUOTE=Raphael92;2313820]I am from South India and I've been to Thailand 7 times in the last 3 years and Pattaya has become close to my second home. What baffled me is when I tried to get in to the below bars.
Baccara Agogo. Entry Denied.
Peppermint. Hit and miss.
Skyfall. Entry Denied.
The Dollhouse. Entry Denied..[/QUOTE]I was stopped at the door at Baccara and told to order something before entering. I said I want to look inside first. He said this isn't a disco so I got annoyed and left. Don't think I've had that happen before in Thailand. If that's what I had at the door they must push drinks hard inside. I was with another Indian and at red car they wanted 200 at the door. I don't know if that was because it was a Saturday night, we were Indian, or we were 2 single guys (or a combination). Other than that I don't think I've been denied entry.
P.S. Don't make excuses for their racism. I know you think you're being reasonable by trying to understand their point of view but all you end up doing is perpetuating those stereotypes. You say you are well dressed, clean, and smell good but was denied entry. The only factor remaining is Indian.
NOTE: My Microsoft Office software decided to stop working. I will henceforth be using Notepad which is a bit less convenient as I will have to rely on ISG for spell checking. Oh well.
I woke up feeling weak, but better. I went down for breakfast and managed to eat two eggs on toast with a little fruit, but as I ate the bowels gurgled and I had to hurry back to the public toilet! I did have a few more moments on the toilet but by late morning things had steadied and I was regaining strength and beginning to think I could go out into the world without fear of not reaching a toilet in time. I realized I was falling behind on finishing reports and getting them finalized and edited, so I worked on getting a couple finished and posted. I am still reluctant to head out, but feel I am improving and will be able to get out soon.
At around 3 or 4 PM, totally bored but down to under one squirt per hour, I venture to the pharmacy to ask about an anti-dirrhea medicine. I think he was wondering to himself why he didn't give me one with the other meds, but he recommends Imodium. I asked how quickly it would start and he kind of laughed and said pretty quick. He was right. It was three more days before I had another dump.
But even though I still felt a little weak and still have a bit of a fever, I headed out again for the massage place on Soi 13/1 (Supinida, or something like that). I hope Aom is there and she might actually offer a bit more this time. She was not outside but I asked if she was there, and she was inside and she indeed remembered me (these ladies never forget) and we repeated the full body massage with the "special". The session was pretty much identical with a nice, sterile, sustained BJ but this time when I didn't come she was more upset about it and wanted to try harder. I think she was contemplating offering FS and maybe I will be able to talk her into it if I go back, but she let me go.
I left her to return to my secret girl on Soi 6. She asked where I had been so I explained my illness. I said I was not feeling the greatest and she confirmed I still had a bit of a fever. I said I needed to lie down aso I BF'ed her and we went upstairs. I would have been happen at this point to have simply lied down with her and nap for the hour, and that is how we started out. We both were on our sides facing each other but soon we started kissing and touching and fondling and wrapped around each other and I got hard and somehow, with any hands being involved, she managed to wiggle her body onto by Johnson. I was both to tired and shocked and too overwhelmed to do too much at that point to resist. That is all I will say, but never before has a woman been able to do that with me! Quite sexy. I really like this girl. But I remain a skeptical person.
It was a moving experience again, with me being surprised that she did what she did when she didn't need to. I was happy with what we were doing and no sex would have been ok with me. Perhaps due to the endorphins, I left feeing better and suddenly hungry. But before I left her I asked about LT with her and she said Friday night would be good. I said I would see her again Friday night, then I left her to go eat at my Mexican restaurant on Soi 7 as it was burrito Thursday night. But yeah, this girl and I are hitting it off even though we have to use Google Translate to communicate at times. She has the body I love and she seems to actually enjoy hanging with me. Why else would she have manipulated her body to get me inside her? Well, ok, I can answer that, skeptic that I am. But hey, I am trying to live a fantasy here!
After dinner I went back to the hotel, again tired. I forced myself to stay up until at least 10 PM, but with a Facebook discussion, it was 11 PM before I went to sleep. So, for the day, there was a Aom at the massage place for a BJ, then a semi FS experience with Secret girl.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2313755]Truly glad you are feeling better. Those of us stateside live to read the The Adventures of FL Hawk. Rock on soldier![/QUOTE]Um, thanks.
Sorry if I letting any of you down this trip. Old age is catching up to me I guess, but I have 4 more days here and I am hoping the couple of days I am posting about now will be more upbeat.
Pattaya Trip Report, Day 9, Thursday, April 25,2019.
Thursday.
Feeling better I headed to Soi 6 about 2 PM. I first stopped at Mod's Bar, being drawn in by a girl with a cute face but when I saw all of her I realized she was a tad bit chubby with fat legs. I ordered a drink but I think she sensed my hesitance and she left. There were a few cute girls there but no one tempted me so I left after a few minutes.
I then went to Offshore. I wanted to see this one cute girl but an older woman got up and came over to bring me inside. She had a fairly good body for an older and slightly worn body. Due to her big boobs, however, I offered not only her a drink but the other younger woman who was the one I had originally wanted. Turns out they were sisters, Bun and Fern. I remembered the name Fern and the bar Offshore and asked Fern if she membered me and she said yes and that we were together twice. That was probably true, though I don't have any direct recollection of it, but I had no reason to not think this was the Fern I had been with before. Both ladies were nice and spoke acceptable English. Bun actually had better legs and was a bit slimmer, but Fern was more shapely and much younger looking. I contemplated taking Bun, but the more I thought the more I decided I really didn't want either at that point. I ended up buying both 2 LDs before I gave my respects and left.
I then ended up a Ruby bar. A cute girl, with a pimply sort of face and dark blonde hair, enticed me in. She was tall with a decent figure and nice smile. We went to the back and chatted, where I learned her name was Noi (another Noi). She was 30 and had a kid, but I bit the bullet and BF'd her. I observed a number of other really cute girls at Ruby, and in the mid to late afternoon there was a lot of mongering going on. The BF here is still 300 but we had to wait about half an hour for a room to open, they were that busy! I must say again that Ruby has amongst the best upstairs rooms. They have been remodeled and kept clean, with each room being spacious with their own shower and toilet. Noi's naked body was not too bad, though her boobies were almost nonexistent (but she had huge nipples). But she was very sweet had a big smile almost the entire time. It was like she was enjoying the sex and just wanted it to go on and on. We laughed and overall a good time was had by both. She was a delight and despite the boobs and not quite having a tight, firm body, she is recommended just for her joy of sex.
Next, I decided to go visit my secret girl. I need to see Jin, and I will, but Secret girl is too much fun at this point. When I see Secret she is in the street flirting with some dude to get him to come in, but when she sees me she gave a huge smile and rushed over to me, planting on me a big kiss. I won't say too much but we sat inside and talked (and this is one sore point in that our ability to communicate is limited), but I was feeling tired and I finally asked her to go upstairs to take a nap! I know, yesterday we went up to rest and ended up with sex, but this time it was purely for rest, plus I will be taking her out tomorrow and we will have sex then and I would be in a depleted then, I would rather save up for tomorrow. So I can again here some of you groaning, but sorry, I really wanted to rest companionship was a higher priority for me at this point that pure sex. It was a hot and sticky night and I stank a bit, it was loud in there, and a short nap with a hot girl when we were both clean, dry and cool was super enticing to me. The experience was indeed nice and I think she greatly enjoyed it and this will spark dividends when I LT time her tomorrow.
Leaving Secret, I went back to Soi 7 to enjoy Burrito Day at the Mex restaurant, at which point I was having that stuck-pill-in-my-throat issue I posted about, so feeling tired again I gave my plans to hit WS and went back to the hotel to finish and post some reports then sleep.
So, to summarize, there was only Noi at Ruby. Face 7, body 7, performance 7-1/2.
I wonder if the next 2 weeks are going to be crazy. Japanese have golden week PLUS extra days. And the Chinese have holidays too. Just went to Siam Paragon mall and it was just insane. So wouldn't be surprised if Patts&Bkk are going to be real busy the next days and prices (Temp) raising. Anyone in Pattaya with info on it right now? I'm not arriving there until Friday.
[QUOTE=Hades;2313872]So I first started coming to Pattaya back in 2005. I come back about once every two years or such. This time, even though its low season, the prices have surprised me.
I know prices change over time, but its just not financially attractive at the gogo's anymore.[/QUOTE]