Pattaya Reports

Dragged FL Hawk around the WS gogo bars tonight. Hit so many even I lost track. Some like Palace and Panda we didn't stay since we couldn't even find a seat. Japanese Golden Week is in FULL effect now.

Some things of interest.

Simon Complex. Utopia Bar the final bar on the right hand side. I'm guessing 20-25 girls crammed in that tiny bar. Most young and not half bad looking either. Was a bit muggy tonight and zero chance I was going to sit in an outside bar. Couldn't have been more than 10 customers in all of Simon Complex. Most bars had no customers at all and this was about 10 pm.

Yes! Agogo. Oh the horror! FL Hawk seemed very confused why my girl dragged him in to Yes! I think FL was a bit scared tbh.

Sugarbaby. I was afraid FL was going to stay here but I'm happy to confirm FL's eyesight is just fine. No idea how guys can spend any money on any girl here no matter how skanky they are. Makes Windmill girls look great. BTW Windmill was awful tonight.

Pin Up - #217 and #235. A pair of long legged thin blondes. They stand out even at Pin Up. I preferred 235 and FL preferred 217. Unfortunately, my girl's friend came and cockblocked FL and we weren't quick enough before a Japanese guy grabbed the pair. These 2 need to go work at Palace.

Tee Rak. Still no idea why no guys go here. The lineup isn't that bad if you ignore a few uglies. Not top end girls but no reason the place should be so empty.

Lighthouse. Really don't know why I don't go to Lighthouse more consistently. Always seem to find at least one gem in there. Instantly fell for a girl. Super small waist with flared hips. Pretty face. Cute smile. FL bailed on me. I wasn't leaving this girl so quickly. Will be back regularly. Potential to be a new Top 5 girl.

BTW does anyone know the whereabouts of a tallish skinny Ding Dong girl named May who worked at Bypass. Haven't seen her for a long time. Lots of laughs with her. She's the blonde one on the right.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2315133]Your fellow countrymen have definitely left a bad taste that will take undoing on your part. When pillow talking with girls from the UK to Japan, the conversation is always the same they like Indians least as customers. While they might mention odor, they ALWAYS mention in-bed behavior as being aggressive and rude. Like all stereotypes YMMV, but being gentle and respectful will be a pleasant surprise for the girl and do your countrymen proud.[/QUOTE]You are not the only one to feel this way, I've seen some truly horrible and disgraceful things done by my own countrymen in Thailand. Its because of a few bad fish that the entire country has been put to shame. Every girl I've been with reiterated the same thing, Indians are cheap, bad odour and rude to everyone. Not all Indians are the same, I've met many who behave well in public and do not display those characteristics. At the time of saying goodbye to the girls, majority of them comment that I was able to change the way they think of Indian men and that they started to believe there are good people who respect and care about others. The girls will be thrilled to see me again because I am a hopeless romantic and I keep things in the bed passionate and gentle and they love it.

My urge to all my fellow Indians, let us change this impression and do our best to improve our reputation in other Countries. I understand this cannot be done overnight, it may even take another generation to fix this but lets move ahead one step at a time.

P.S: Some of you might feel that I may be selling out my own country, but I've witnessed the hard truth on several occasions and it was heartbreaking. I've seen people from other countries do disgraceful things in public in Thailand, but that is something which is not in our control. Let us do our best to improve and who knows, we may inspire others to improve.

[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2314860]So don't worry about being Indian travelling alone chum, you van still get the stunners and VIP treatment.[/QUOTE]During the 7 times I've been to Thailand, 5 times I have travelled alone and I loved it. The journey make me feel exhilarated and we do get stunners, but it is on my wish list to get into Baccara at least once, just to experience the view of the top glass floor full of hot girls dancing.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2315142]Snip. Yes! Agogo. Oh the horror! FL Hawk seemed very confused why my girl dragged him in to Yes! I think FL was a bit scared tbh.

Snip. Pin Up - #217 and #235. A pair of long legged thin blondes. They stand out even at Pin Up. I preferred 235 and FL preferred 217. Unfortunately, my girl's friend came and cockblocked FL and we weren't quick enough before a Japanese guy grabbed the pair. These 2 need to go work at Palace.

Snip. Lighthouse. Really don't know why I don't go to Lighthouse more consistently. Always seem to find at least one gem in there. Instantly fell for a girl. Super small waist with flared hips. Pretty face. Cute smile. FL bailed on me. I wasn't leaving this girl so quickly. Will be back regularly. Potential to be a new Top 5 girl.
Snip.[/QUOTE]I am puzzled as to why you would go gogo bar hopping with a girl. It appears to have prevented you bar fining the Lighthouse girl.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2315272]I am puzzled as to why you would go gogo bar hopping with a girl. It appears to have prevented you bar fining the Lighthouse girl.[/QUOTE]I didn't take a girl bar hopping. Girl who dragged FL in to Yes! was a gogo girl I know who we ran into on Walking Street. I told her to walk FL to Yes! so she grabbed his arm and dragged him there. The girl at Pin Up was just a gogo girl who I bought a lady drink for. I had promised her the night before I would come back to see her the next day.

I don't barfine gogo girls the day I meet them. Since I live here I don't feel the need to. I think 7000 baht is too expensive for a girl I have only known for an hour or less.

[QUOTE=Raphael92;2314782]I've experienced this 'order something before entering the bar' thing in Nana Plaza a lot, but this is fine by me as long as they let me in. They usually let me in if I am alone, but if two Indians (for example my travel buddy) try to enter together, not sure what hell breaks loose, they deny entry to the same bar which I entered my last trip alone. I am planning my next solo trip again to Thailand, fingers crossed.[/QUOTE]I actually decided to check inside a couple days ago. I didn't want to deal with being stopped at the door so I just went right up to the guy and asked Do I order here? He looked at me like I was crazy and just said no go order inside. I went in and it seemed really busy but only waited about a minute to get a seat.

Yesterday I saw a girl outside a bar on Soi 6 (offshore) and we made eye contact and she smiled so I decided to head back later. When I got there I couldn't see her so I grabbed a drink with someone else. Stayed about 30 minutes and then headed out. She was sweet and I liked her so I said maybe I'd come back later. Aren't they use to everyone saying this? Came back later and saw the original girl outside and went up to her because I wanted to ask her for her name. While I did this there was an old bat behind her screeching that this wasn't the same girl that I drank with earlier. I get her name and go back to my room to do something before heading back. I see her again and go up to her and ask her if she wants a LD. While I do this the same old goat behind her starts bleating that it's a different girl and the one I drank with earlier was to the right. Because of that the girl looks very uncomfortable and denies me (which I think is a fair assumption). I say Hi to the girl the woman was directing me towards and pretend like I didn't see her earlier and the woman laughs. I did like the girl and she asked if I wanted to sit with her but I said no and went back to my room and fell asleep (back home I go to sleep at 3 am but here I've been getting tired around midnight). I'm assuming that old crow owns the bar and she just cost herself a ST (possibly LT) barfine yesterday. I walk around a lot before sitting to avoid stuff like this but then the girls always comment they see me walking around so I get a bit self conscious about it. If I see her again I'll test the waters but I may just give that bar a wide berth now despite hitting it off with the girl there. It was definitely undone when I tried to get the other girl a drink and there is the matter of that old banshee roaming around. If anyone else has any stories of "jealousy" (for lack of a better word) from bargirls when you buy another girl a drink I'd enjoy reading them. I did feel a little bad but it's my $$$ here.

Earlier this week I paid LT barfine (700) for a girl and she was coughing a little bit (big red flag but I ignored it) but said she was okay. We went out to a disco for a little while and then back to the room where she complained about stomach pains. I told her if she wasn't comfortable fucking tonight that's fine but I don't want to pay the full LT price if we only did it once. She said I was crazy and she only has sex 1 time during LT. After hearing that I just said I'll give you 500 and you can go now so she said okay. Between the barfine, payment, and drinking I was out 1800 but that's what I get for letting my guard down and not ironing out all the details beforehand.

On the other hand Pat at Full Moon Bar was great. Drank with her twice and did ST once. DFK, BBBJ, and afterwards she lied with me instead of kicking me out immediately. I think the only thing I asked was if kissing was okay. There are prettier girls for sure but she is attractive, great service, and nice. She kept asking me to take her LT but the BF is 1000. Her English is okay.

A week down and honestly it didn't go as well as I'd hoped but now I'll chalk it up as a learning experience. This is only my second time here and the first time was only a few days. I'm use to BKK where you just walk in and choose a girl at an MP. No muss, no fuss. Rarely have any problems there.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2314955]Decided to Google this place. Soi 13/3 as we all know is better known as PattayaLand aka Boyz Town where all the gay bars are. Obviously this is why I had never been to Kitten Club! It appears Kitten Club is in the Penthouse Hotel in an alley joining Soi 13/3 and Soi 13/4. Here is their web page. [URL]https://www.penthousehotel.com/cats_niteclub/kitten_bar.htm[/URL].

However, I found another web site indicating Kitten Club CLOSED down on April 7, 2017! No idea of the accuracy of this site. [URL]http://www.pattayasweethearts.com/closedclubs.htm[/URL].

I know ISG guys stay at Penthouse Hotel as the hotel name keeps coming up on the Pattaya Hotels thread. I had no idea until now it was right smack in the middle of Boyz Town. Are there actual female gogo bars there? I had just assumed it was all gay or ladyboy bars.[/QUOTE]Yes Kitten club closed, penthouse hotel is known to be infested with roaches, used to be popular back in the day then started getting horrible reviews mostly because of roaches and owners wife being a ****, a old hooker I think! Do not stay their!

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2315307]I didn't take a girl bar hopping. Girl who dragged FL in to Yes! was a gogo girl I know who we ran into on Walking Street. I told her to walk FL to Yes! so she grabbed his arm and dragged him there. The girl at Pin Up was just a gogo girl who I bought a lady drink for. I had promised her the night before I would come back to see her the next day.

I don't barfine gogo girls the day I meet them. Since I live here I don't feel the need to. I think 7000 baht is too expensive for a girl I have only known for an hour or less.[/QUOTE]I think 7,000 baht is too much for a girl I've known for six years.

From a Japanese gogo bar site. Their ranking to some gogo bars in Pattaya. No idea what these numbers are based off of. Surprised to see Windmill so high because I rarely see Japanese guys there.

Happy 75.172.
Baccara 73.603.
Palace 71.55.
Panda 59.62.
Windmill 58.076.
Sensations 57.157.
Peppermint 55.568.
Fahrenheit 54.649.
Baccara 2nd floor 54.47.
Glass house 53.5111.
Skyfall 51.5412.
Kink 50.0413.
Sapphire 48.441.
Pin up 46.2915.
Champagne 46.1016.
Tantra 43.6817.
Shark club 42.9418.
Crazy house 40.7419.
Dolls 38.9120.
Queen club 38.08.

Anyone know a Korean site? I'd like to compare.

Why is the 2nd floor for Baccara ranked so much lower? I should have peeked upstairs when I was there. They wear more clothes? More westerners?

LK Metro gogo bars and bars all open. So much for closing for this particular National Holiday.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2315142]BTW does anyone know the whereabouts of a tallish skinny Ding Dong girl named May who worked at Bypass. Haven't seen her for a long time. Lots of laughs with her. She's the blonde one on the right.[/QUOTE]I know that at least one lady and the mamasan moved from Bypass to MJ kitty agogo in Soi 6. I was there about 4 weeks ago.

They may have info.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2315430]From a Japanese gogo bar site. Their ranking to some gogo bars in Pattaya. No idea what these numbers are based off of. Surprised to see Windmill so high because I rarely see Japanese guys there.
[/QUOTE]Can be very important to know the basis for a rating. Read one Farang article rating Cowboy and Nana bars, and was surprised that price of a beer was a very big factor in which were the best bars. LOL.

Surely having pretty or ugly girls would matter? Maybe whether the music was actually music and could be danced to (or the car alarm stuff some guy mentioned)? Lighting? Can we actually see the girls faces? Pressure from staff or relaxed mode? I don't really care about drink prices if there are no attractive girls worth looking at. BF prices matter more. If I go to gogo bars, surely I am looking for girl to fuck most times. Some of my buddies could not stay in a bar more than a few minutes because the music was too loud for them to tolerate. Occasionally happened to me too. So is the DJ good or a complete dickhead?

It is very clear to me, we each rate bars in very different ways. Hopefully they just asked rate bars in order of favourite to least favourite, if they don't explain the points system.

On 1st May. I think it is mainly holidays that relate to Buddhist events, elections and those that relate to the King, where alcohol cannot be sold and bars close. So Labour day is clearly not that. The workers surely want to drink and party.

So we have these 3 religious closures coming up (alcohol cannot be sold): Wisakha Bucha (18 May but supposedly to be observed on Mon 20 May instead ), Asalaha Bucha 16 Jul, Khao Phansaa (start of Buddhist Lent) 17 July. Does not mean MPs will close. Can line up your girls by phone chat. Stock the fridge with alcohol.

13 Oct passing of the late King is a definite closure (in my mind - but I could be wrong). No. 1 importance attached to that. Many girls may not want to work.

[QUOTE=BonusParts;2315434]Why is the 2nd floor for Baccara ranked so much lower? I should have peeked upstairs when I was there. They wear more clothes? More westerners?[/QUOTE]They're all topless on the 2nd floor of Baccara whereas only maybe 25% topless in the main bar. Second floor A LOT more hands on. No it's still pretty much 100% Asian upstairs too. Drink prices the same. Main difference are the quality of the girls. They're not nearly as pretty upstairs. Still better than Windmill and Crazy House and similar bars but it's night and day when you look at the quality of the top girls downstairs vs. Upstairs.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2315863]They're all topless on the 2nd floor of Baccara whereas only maybe 25% topless in the main bar. Second floor A LOT more hands on. No it's still pretty much 100% Asian upstairs too. Drink prices the same. Main difference are the quality of the girls. They're not nearly as pretty upstairs. Still better than Windmill and Crazy House and similar bars but it's night and day when you look at the quality of the top girls downstairs vs. Upstairs.[/QUOTE]Last March, I visited Baccara everyday for a week. There was this dancer I saw on the first floor stage. Her number was #73. A light-skinned slim babe with breast augmentation. (Hair dyed blonde also) Anyway, one day, I visit Baccara again. I do not see #73 on the first floor. So I look up through the see-through glass floor. To my surprise, #73 is dancing on the second floor. I must having been staring at the second floor the whole time because one of the first floor dancers right in front of me smiled and said to me, "Later, I dance upstairs!" (Translation: Later, you can stare at my nice ass just like you've been staring at #73's ass for the last 10 minutes! My beer is almost finished so the waiter asks me if I want another one. I say, sure, so I'm enjoying my second beer when I notice #73 is back dancing on the first floor.

Another day, I'm in Tantra during happy hour. This place has lighting that is a little too dark for me. Anyway, I notice a nice-looking coyote dancer. Looks a little shy. I say to myself, if she were a little taller, she would be a model. The next day, I go to Tantra again. This time I go there late after midnight. The model line-up is a little thin, which is to be expected after midnight. Then I notice the coyote dancer from the night before. But tonight she is in her lingerie dancing with the models.

Conclusion: At least for both Baccara and Tantra, the routine seems to be flexible, which makes business sense.