FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2788789]I heard from multiple sources (couple of staff + a few WGs) that Kiara SRB-SLO has not been seen for many months and has probably quit the business.

A real epidemic of girls quitting the job.

Seems that with "100430" these stupid girls have been very busy pricing themselves out of the market and cutting off the tree branch that they are sitting on. LOL! Here's a visualization: [URL]https://youtu.be/RYHci_KYIT4[/URL].

Many many many girls (including some of my favourites who in 2019 were still making very good money) are now complaining that they are making [U]less[/U] money with 100430. When I talk to them and tell them that most men do not have unlimited financial resources, that we can only spend out Dollars or Euros once ("Cost Opportunity") and try to explain them the math and the economics behind it, they simply get defensive. They are too stupid to understand that if in 2019 they did 10 sessions of 30 minutes for 50 Euros, they would have had more money back then than they have today in 2023 by making 3-4 sessions of 30 minutes for 100 Euros. So now in 2023 they sit around looking bored for hours, when in 2019 they were making more sessions and thus were making more money.

Women + irrational thinking + unrealistic expectations = a total disaster, just look at the German foreign minister. LOL!

The internet is full of examples (just google "Female Delusion Calculator") of delusional women having completely unrealistic expectations and then wonder why nobody will ask them out on a date, yet the WGs can't seem to figure out why they are making less money now with 100430 than before during 50430 and think that 'the men will come back' after they increase prices.

[URL]https://youtu.be/tz1uiNHKVpk[/URL] (The Foo*ishness Behind Modern Women's Unrealistic Expectations Female Delusional Calculator).

[URL]https://youtu.be/5NYQB5c3kSM[/URL] (Entitled Women Have Unrealistic Date Expectations For Men (Coffee Date Makes You A Loser?[/QUOTE]Unfortunately the price would never go back down to 50430.

I don't think the pricing is the only reason for the downturn in customer numbers, I know a girl who works in Switzerland where the clubs set the prices, the price has gone up there but only by 10 francs but she said she is making less than half the money she used to. Currently people have less disposable income.

As Turgid said the price will never go back down to 50430, if people are waiting for that to happen before they return to Sharks they will never return. There are some girls such as Nadine who refuse to go for 150460 and want 200 but most girls will go for 150460 which I don't think is unreasonable, there are too many girls for the number of customers though, I've no idea how some of them make any money.

I was there at the weekend and I'd say it was one of the best line-ups for my eyes I've seen for a long time there, Kitty and Cataleya could both be models. Alina, Sabrina, Roxi & Mila as well as being attractive all provide outstanding service. The staff at the bar are still ridiculously slow but the downturn in customers means you have a chance of getting a drink, plus there is no waiting for rooms or missing out on a girl as she's constantly booked all night now. I had a great time there at the weekend.

[QUOTE=Saturn11;2789178]I don't think the pricing is the only reason for the downturn in customer numbers, I know a girl who works in Switzerland where the clubs set the prices, the price has gone up there but only by 10 francs but she said she is making less than half the money she used to. Currently people have less disposable income.

As Turgid said the price will never go back down to 50430, if people are waiting for that to happen before they return to Sharks they will never return. There are some girls such as Nadine who refuse to go for 150460 and want 200 but most girls will go for 150460 which I don't think is unreasonable, there are too many girls for the number of customers though, I've no idea how some of them make any money.

I was there at the weekend and I'd say it was one of the best line-ups for my eyes I've seen for a long time there, Kitty and Cataleya could both be models. Alina, Sabrina, Roxi & Mila as well as being attractive all provide outstanding service. The staff at the bar are still ridiculously slow but the downturn in customers means you have a chance of getting a drink, plus there is no waiting for rooms or missing out on a girl as she's constantly booked all night now. I had a great time there at the weekend.[/QUOTE]Roxy was not so busy on Saturday evening. Prettiest for me was missing, but I confirm for best casting in FKK land at the moment, with prettier girls for less expensive than at Globe where they increased rate on 2022 , only 10 CHF more per 30 , but for lower looks than before. Many others, prettier for me than small Nadine, asking 200/60 , versus 300 CHF meaning more than 300 € per 60 . For 200/60 , only escort level look and real GFE for me, when I prefer quality.

Just visited Paris.

In Paris, I spent 6 hours with a 20-yo beautiful Russian girl who is new comer to escort business. The total cost is 930 euro.

In Sharks club, booking 6 hours room with average Sharks WGs, current minimum cost would be 900-1200 euros.

So it seems escorting in Paris now is more cost effective than mongering in Sharks club.

I will go to Darmstadt next week to check Sharks lineup.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2789097]Unfortunately the price would never go back down to 50430.[/QUOTE]Many girls at Sharks or Oase prefer to warm their ass waiting than returning even down to 100/60 which was quite usual at Sharks on 2021 with FK and BBBJ, DATY with pretty ones. Prettiest now won t accept to worth less expensive than average looks who ask 100/30 . Nevertheless, on this Saturday night, a girl came to me asking if I wanted to repeat, it was a bit complicated because I would like to chat with her new friend who always follow her, so I answered I didn t want grocery money talk again, like before our discovery, and asked if she remembered all about our discovery? She answered: Yes and for X rate for You. I was surprised about her new discount compare to discovery, maybe she really wanted to repeat and experience again how I treated her, but it should be complicated now to feel attraction after her Turkish business. Maybe with her new friend.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2788886]Mongers deserve the blame as well because we created this distorted market. Many mongers who own property and stocks saw their net worth double and triple during the pandemic. On paper a lot of mongers felt richer, and psychologically that made them spend like there was no tomorrow. And of course, post-lockdown many mongers engaged in "revenge-spending":

We still have not seen the full economic fallout of money-printing and artificially low-interest rates over the last decade. Not to mention all the subsidies and debt incurred to prop up economies during the pandemic and this ongoing energy crisis. Many consumers have been shielded thus far, so we still not have felt the full economic pain yet.

Some of us may be forced with the same economic decision in the coming years, and there are really only three choices: (1) swallow your pride and take the pay cut, (2) switch careers or stop working, (3) move somewhere else with lower cost of living. The latter two choices generally result in less pay as well, but at least you walk away with some pride.[/QUOTE]Lot's of interesting stuff to unpack.

I follow some economic blogs as well and quite a few financial analysts made the following observation: 'things you need will become more expensive, things you don't need will drop in price. '.

IMHO there will be a small 'battle' between girls [U]needing[/U] income to pay for rent and food, and guys [U]needing[/U] sex. My money is on girls needing the income much more than guys needing sex. Just as during the Plandemic, a small handful of ugly fat short guys will never score any pussy outside an FKK and they will pay any price (either a financial price or a vaccine QR-code price), but most of us are just lazy and need a bit more or an incentive to look elsewhere. Take away the FKK girls because they are either too expensive or 'locked' behind a QR code, and many men will stay away, which is [U]exactly[/U] what you see in Sharks now.

The ladies on the other hand also have to make some economic decisions: struggle to break even while working as a prostitute (see my financial example below) in Germany, roll the dice and work illegally in the Middle East, or accept reality and a much more modest income and lifestyle by working in a nail salon or a hair dresser in Romania and getting a normal boyfriend with decent salary and perhaps even have children one day.

My guess is that during the Plandemic many girls got a BIG wake up call that the source of their income could dry up overnight due to some socialist government's decision to micromanage people's lives, and so they have started to do some thinking and make those above-mentioned economic decisions. The smart ones figured it out during the Plandemic and never returned to Germany once the clubs reopened, and are either in the Middle East, some high class escort agency, or they are already working in that Romanian nail salon. The not so smart ones are figuring it out now and are slowly quitting. The dumb ones still haven't figured it out and are clinging on to 100430 while struggling to maintain their 2019 lifestyle. (The only exception are perhaps 5% or so of the girls of the current lineup who are good looking enough to command 100430, but these 5% of girls will not be able to keep a huge place like Sharks up and running).

[QUOTE=Akibono;2788868]One can just as easily say you are the fool for not paying more.[/QUOTE]Sure, you have a point, but I guess I'm not the only "fool" because on weekends Sharks is very very quiet. I have [U]never[/U] seen waiting times for a room.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2789097]Unfortunately the price would never go back down to 50430.[/QUOTE]Gee, you quoted my entire post, just to write one sentence? LOL! Anyway, eventually more and more girls will quit because the mathematics just won't add up anymore.

Imagine a girl wants to work one week at Sharks or any other FKK club: she has to pay for a flight from Romania to Frankfurt (a few hundred Euros), then pay 105 Euros entry for Sharks every day, and also pay for lodging (either in Sharks or an AirBNB but AirBNB will increase daily costs for transport to-from Sharks) let's be very generous and assume 45 Euros per day.

So 7 x 150 Euros + roughly 200 Euros for a flight = 1250 Euros she will have to earn [U]just to break even[/U] by sitting around looking bored, refusing 50430, in an FKK club where there are much fewer potential male customers than in 2019, being perhaps a slightly above average looking girl, and watching time fly by without any customers.

[B]Good luck with that business model! LOL! [/B]

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2789365]....Gee, you quoted my entire post, just to write one sentence? LOL!....[/QUOTE]I usually post after truncating a long post with several issues. Your "entire" post was short with one issue, LOL!

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2789310]Just visited Paris.

In Paris, I spent 6 hours with a 20-yo beautiful Russian girl who is new comer to escort business. The total cost is 930 euro.

In Sharks club, booking 6 hours room with average Sharks WGs, current minimum cost would be 900-1200 euros.

So it seems escorting in Paris now is more cost effective than mongering in Sharks club.

I will go to Darmstadt next week to check Sharks lineup.[/QUOTE]From my knowledge of escorting now in Paris and since 2017, I will keep on driving 1200 kms on enjoyable autobahns like Kraftwerk song when I was a child, to go weekly to Germany where I find higher quality mainly for looks than even on telegram. I m pretty sure Sharks is best for looks at the moment, with not kissing Elina at Wellcum, with some attractive Germans without silicon and not many tattoos. For the pickiest I am, I m happy when my eyes smile, even not enough to spend in room.

[B]HammerTime96[/B], your posts on this page and to all other Sharks Fans.

That's not quite right, I think, for Sharks, this is not about [U][I]"other clubs in Germany"[/I][/U], where the room prices are often much cheaper. From the girls' point of view: Why should the girls do 50/30 with more room / effort if they totally then have a bit more money in a day than if they do 100/30 with less room / effort and have earned a bit less money in a day? Plus the extras in each case. They earn enough. What they end up doing with the money is another question!

I understand their calculation, the very least have fun with the job, it's, as with any professional, just about making a lot of money fast (we all know that).

[B]WHO[/B] drove up the prices in the Sharks to what they are now and [B]WHEN[/B] was that?

It was the Asians before the pandemic, who paid big money for a room and after 10 min "splashed", were satisfied and left the room smiling. The girls are not stupid! From their point of view, they acted cleverly, passed on the increased prices to everyone and these were unfortunately accepted.

[B]WHO[/B] continues to contribute significantly to the current prices still being what they are?

[B]ALL[/B] men (Germans, French, Belgians, Dutch, Luxembourgers etc.), and not only in the Sharks, who still pay a lot of money for a young and attractive girl, think only with their "tail" and do not realise what consequences this will have in the future. Namely higher prices. Basta!

I mainly do 50/30 in Sharks (yes, there are pretty girls with sexy service for 50 and not only a few) and also in other clubs (World (60), Finca (60), Village (60), Oase (50), Mainhattan (50)) with touch, nipples suck and fuck, sometimes and then only a maximum of 100/30 with full service (both variations are enough for me in terms of time) and I am completely satisfied. Why should I lick a working girl's pussy and kiss her by tongue every time I go to a room for more money? Because it's nice for her? Because she gets pleasure from it? (hahahaha.).

[B]I[/B] decide the service and the price and I use my mind. If the girl says "no", I thank her kindly for her time and contact the next one or she approaches me. There are enough of them, especially at Sharks, about 70-100 a day. And I have fun there and in other clubs, for sure. That's my philosphy and it's going well.

[QUOTE=FFM96;2789568][B]HammerTime96[/B], your posts on this page and to all other Sharks Fans.

That's not quite right, I think, for Sharks, this is not about [U][I]"other clubs in Germany"[/I][/U], where the room prices are often much cheaper. From the girls' point of view: Why should the girls do 50/30 with more room / effort if they totally then have a bit more money in a day than if they do 100/30 with less room / effort and have earned a bit less money in a day? Plus the extras in each case. They earn enough. What they end up doing with the money is another question!

I understand their calculation, the very least have fun with the job, it's, as with any professional, just about making a lot of money fast (we all know that).

[B]WHO[/B] drove up the prices in the Sharks to what they are now and [B]WHEN[/B] was that?

It was the Asians before the pandemic, who paid big money for a room and after 10 min "splashed", were satisfied and left the room smiling. The girls are not stupid! From their point of view, they acted cleverly, passed on the increased prices to everyone and these were unfortunately accepted.

[B]WHO[/B] continues to contribute significantly to the current prices still being what they are?

[B]ALL[/B] men (Germans, French, Belgians, Dutch, Luxembourgers etc.), and not only in the Sharks, who still pay a lot of money for a young and attractive girl, think only with their "tail" and do not realise what consequences this will have in the future. Namely higher prices. Basta!

I mainly do 50/30 in Sharks (yes, there are pretty girls with sexy service for 50 and not only a few) and also in other clubs (World (60), Finca (60), Village (60), Oase (50), Mainhattan (50)) with touch, nipples suck and fuck, sometimes and then only a maximum of 100/30 with full service (both variations are enough for me in terms of time) and I am completely satisfied. Why should I lick a working girl's pussy and kiss her by tongue every time I go to a room for more money? Because it's nice for her? Because she gets pleasure from it? (hahahaha.).

[B]I[/B] decide the service and the price and I use my mind. If the girl says "no", I thank her kindly for her time and contact the next one or she approaches me. There are enough of them, especially at Sharks, about 70-100 a day. And I have fun there and in other clubs, for sure. That's my philosphy and it's going well.[/QUOTE]Germans and locals paid some Sharks Romanians 100/30 and 150/60 under covid lockdown when 100/60 for real GFE with some of prettiest was usual for me in 2021 . Now with many Asians back, rate won t decrease. Compare to Switzerland or escorts in Paris, few Sharks girls have quality to worth their rate in this new FKK world with argentinian economy.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2789310]In Sharks club, booking 6 hours room with average Sharks WGs, current minimum cost would be 900-1200 euros.[/QUOTE]If you paid 900 euros a 6 hours room in Sharks the girl laughed all the way to the bank.

For room that long the 100/60 is pretty much universal. Or at worst 150 the first hour and 100 the others.

[QUOTE=FFM96;2789568][B]HammerTime96[/B], your posts on this page and to all other Sharks Fans.

That's not quite right, I think, for Sharks, this is not about [U][I]"other clubs in Germany"[/I][/U], where the room prices are often much cheaper. From the girls' point of view: Why should the girls do 50/30 with more room / effort if they totally then have a bit more money in a day than if they do 100/30 with less room / effort and have earned a bit less money in a day? Plus the extras in each case. They earn enough. What they end up doing with the money is another question!

I understand their calculation, the very least have fun with the job, it's, as with any professional, just about making a lot of money fast (we all know that).

[B]WHO[/B] drove up the prices in the Sharks to what they are now and [B]WHEN[/B] was that?

It was the Asians before the pandemic, who paid big money for a room and after 10 min "splashed", were satisfied and left the room smiling. The girls are not stupid! From their point of view, they acted cleverly, passed on the increased prices to everyone and these were unfortunately accepted.

[B]WHO[/B] continues to contribute significantly to the current prices still being what they are?

[B]ALL[/B] men (Germans, French, Belgians, Dutch, Luxembourgers etc.), and not only in the Sharks, who still pay a lot of money for a young and attractive girl, think only with their "tail" and do not realise what consequences this will have in the future. Namely higher prices. Basta!

I mainly do 50/30 in Sharks (yes, there are pretty girls with sexy service for 50 and not only a few) and also in other clubs (World (60), Finca (60), Village (60), Oase (50), Mainhattan (50)) with touch, nipples suck and fuck, sometimes and then only a maximum of 100/30 with full service (both variations are enough for me in terms of time) and I am completely satisfied. Why should I lick a working girl's pussy and kiss her by tongue every time I go to a room for more money? Because it's nice for her? Because she gets pleasure from it? (hahahaha.).

[B]I[/B] decide the service and the price and I use my mind. If the girl says "no", I thank her kindly for her time and contact the next one or she approaches me. There are enough of them, especially at Sharks, about 70-100 a day. And I have fun there and in other clubs, for sure. That's my philosphy and it's going well.[/QUOTE]Reading again, You are right not to kiss nor DATY prostitutes to save your money, when even great pleasure, but I would not drive 1200 kms and not pay entry and not even the prettiest in whole FKK land just to empty my balls, when I buy and fresh natural beauty and fresh GFE are not even enough, but needing also image and manners. For sure, more expensive than just emptying balls like a rabbit, but my quality standard. On last Saturday, one of the prettiest lowered her rate to make me repeat, but I don t think I will, even for less expensive, but not anymore the image for me, when the most important and valuable for me when I would not pay for most girls images.

[QUOTE=FFM96;2789568].....I mainly do 50/30 in Sharks (yes, there are pretty girls with sexy service for 50 and not only a few) and also in other clubs (World (60), Finca (60), Village (60), Oase (50), Mainhattan (50)) with touch, nipples suck and fuck, sometimes and then only a maximum of 100/30 with full service (both variations are enough for me in terms of time) and I am completely satisfied. Why should I lick a working girl's pussy and kiss her by tongue every time I go to a room for more money? Because it's nice for her? Because she gets pleasure from it? (hahahaha.).

[B]I[/B] decide the service and the price and I use my mind. If the girl says "no", I thank her kindly for her time and contact the next one or she approaches me. There are enough of them, especially at Sharks, about 70-100 a day. And I have fun there and in other clubs, for sure. That's my philosphy and it's going well.[/QUOTE]That is all well and good but I like hot sexy girls and they all seem to charge 100/30.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2789757]That is all well and good but I like hot sexy girls and they all seem to charge 100/30.[/QUOTE]Exactly. The ugly girls who have jumped on my lap [U]uninvited[/U] when I'm quietly relaxing after a sauna, a massage, or a room, usually offered me 50430, but I wouldn't touch those ugly hags with a 10 foot bargepole even if it was 000043000.

[QUOTE=Hyperion2007;2789657]If you paid 900 euros a 6 hours room in Sharks the girl laughed all the way to the bank.

For room that long the 100/60 is pretty much universal. Or at worst 150 the first hour and 100 the others.[/QUOTE]Depends on WGs.

Usually WGs consider 6 hour booking as whole night.

Recent returned Adriana would charge 1000 euro as she confirmed at least 150/ hour.

Betty would charge at least 1000 for 6 hours.

Sophie and other German girls would charge 900-1000 for 6 hours.

I believe only Roxi would agree 600 euro for 6 hours.

I haven't seen the new Hungarian beautiful 20 yo Lolita, Alisha. Some one claim this innocent teen only charge 50/30.