Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=Knobrm;2318429]
So OP just need to go buy new Buffalo to the stunner and all is set for next dinner.
[/QUOTE]LOL. I'm eagerly awaiting his report about how he bought a buffalo and delivered it to her in Palace.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2318905]I learned long ago it never pays to stay for even an hour to get the cheaper barfine. Will cost you way more in drinks and it is one less hour you get with your girl alone and not in a bar environment.[/QUOTE]I sat with a girl for about 30-40 minutes and bought myself a drink + 2 LD. The BF was cheaper in 20 minutes so I said I'd wait. The owner said if I was going to wait I had to buy 2 more drinks. The bar was closing so it was empty. It ticked off so I just left. There was another bar where you can pay the full BF to book a girl and when you come back later to pick her up you get the difference back. No problems there. When I come back guess which bar I'll be going back to.

Hey bros,

Today I got to visit for the first time, the infamous Soi 6. I started with a nice fish curry with gravy and naan lunch at the Crown of India restaurant on the backside away from the Beach road. The meal was a 9/10 but expensive for the portion served. After my meal, I strolled down Soi 6 with chants of sexy handsome man everywhere, while a few girls try to grab and pull me. I think the girls were fond of me very much. Many beautiful stunners everywhere, but very hot and dangerous. I walked up and down Soi 6 about 3 times slowly to be able to get a good look at all the sexy girls and talent. It took about 45 minutes because sometimes I had to stand outside the bars to observe or else they will ask you to buy a drink if you go inside and look at the girls. A few times I almost got accident by cars and motorbikes. A girl from Lust bar grabbed my arm and would not let go, so I decided to join her bar for some company. I ordered a water and bought her a tequila shot also. She did not say much. Maybe she was only interested in making money of drinks. The whole time I tried to ask questions, she looked away or tried to hide her smile by covering her mouth. Perhaps, she had bad teeth so I pity her a bit because I think I was making her shy. Looks wise she was a 9/10 but her company was 3/10. She did not want to touch me when I moved her hand to my middle section. She told me she was new. We had little connection so I left. Next, I saw this nicer bar towards the end of 6 called Keylaya 66. Had a lot of stunners. Inside they had many fun board games and nice sofas. I think they had many Chinese girls working there because of the movies on the TV were in Chinese. I wanted to play some games like Jenga with some of the girls but then they started asking for drinks. So for awhile I sat on the sofa alone until the fatter mamasan with glasses asked me if I wanted a girl. I pointed to a very nice looking stunner 10/10 with nice boobs and body. Mamasan told me she was only a drinking girl and then offered me another girl. The other one was very pretty too, a 9/10. I paid 3000 total to the mamasan for the girl. The experience was excellent, 9/10. I was tired afterwards and went back to my room to rest up for Walking Street later tonight. The good times keep coming! I will keep you brothers updated with intel to help you successfully monger in Pattaya. Take care.

My last day before heading to China. I remain conflicted about going to China. I am so temped to contact the Thai GF or even stay in Pattaya, but China girl contacted me and despite having a tooth extracted, she is still planning to join me in Beijing Monday morning. So I must go. I must find out how we will be together and if there could be, how to proceed. But I have doubts and hope I won't ruin anything.

I hit Soi 6 in the afternoon and settle for Pu at Foxy Bar. Not sure why other than she was a spinner. Well, an old spinner and I should have realized she would have a tired, worn body. She tried and showed her experience with me in trying to get me off, but it was hopeless as I was saving myself for Secret that evening anyway.

After Pu I walked on down to Secret. I wanted to be with another girl but no one really caught my fancy and I didn't want to just pick a random girl just to be with one more girl other than Secret before leaving. She had sent me a touching Line message I had not seen, thanking me for taking care of her and telling me how much she was going to miss me. I guess I was making an impression on here and she was beginning to fall for me, whether real or imagined or a fake. (Some of you, including me, will be skeptical as to possible motives.) She wanted to go with me and I long timed her. Long story short, on this last night, after which I will likely have no sex for a long time, especially bareback sex, we engage is some long foreplay and I finally enter her in the spoon position. Then, after a minute maybe, she suddenly pulls out, looks down and, yep, she had started her period. Blood was on the sheets, on me. Sigh. She was still hungovered so we just went to sleep in each other's arms after washing. Maybe if she was really in love and since this was our last night together for at least 5 or 6 months she might have given me a BJ, but whatever. It was ok. I doubt I could have come by any other method, so it was ok.

Next morning was sad as I had to leave. She was actually taking it hard and while some could say she was sad as her money source was leaving, it did not seem quite like that to me. Neither of us could eat much breakfast. The Bell Bus pickup van arrived on schedule and she hugged me tightly, giving the folks in the lobby and van a brief show. I actually thought she was close to crying. She kept asking if she would ever see me again and if I would forget her. I said she probably would see me in November and of course I would not forget her. Secret's last words to me were "I will wait for your return. " I boarded the van, waved goodbye and though sad, was not distraught. Time to put her out of my mind and think of China girl, and what if THAT trip turned out to be a disaster.

The trip back to BKK went well as did the flight to Beijing.

So, this would seem to conclude my Pattaya report. It ends with me heading off to China to see a young woman I haven't seen in a few years on a risky visit, leaving the possibly newly-in-love Thai bar girl behind, as well as me destroying any possible visit to see my Thai GF during the last week of my trip. Rest assured I have not fallen in love with Secret by any means. She has affected me on several different levels and I do indeed care about her, but she is what she is in a business of her choosing, and in a contest between my Thai GF and Secret, the GF winds on nearly every point. I will sure miss her, and I think I have one more Pattaya trip in me before I just can't do this kind of thing anymore, so we will see. But, I have spent a record number of days in Pattaya. I was thinking I was getting bored and the Pattaya Blues hit me for a few days there, but this visit is ending on a high note, even though there is that touch of sadness you have when leaving a new friend.

Short story:

I did not arrive at Beijing airport until 3 AM Monday morning, where I allowed myself to get scammed for the ride to the hotel. I was unsure about the place and how to exchange money and get a taxi driver who could understand where I needed to go and, though I was sure I could work it all out, even the realization I was being scammed to get a ride did not detour me from accepting help from a scammer. I just wanted to get to the hotel and sleep a few hours before China girl would arrive.

I will say that China Southern was a nice airline to fly, but we parked way out in the boonies and had to take a relatively long transfer bus ride to the terminal which was not particularly tourist friendly. China girl arrived the next morning and didn't seem tooooo put off by the two beds in a single, small room at the Holiday Inn Express in Winjing, Beijing. But, she was not quite as attractive to me as she had been, which is no real surprise as it was 5 or 6 years ago, but there were still possibilities I thought. We headed out to see the Forbidden City. She was paying for everything as I had no local cash and there we no exchange booths in sight. But the Forbidden City was closed on Mondays so we just walked around the area which was nice and interesting, but I could tell things were not going well. Back at the hotel later, she wanted her own room, which I understood, but I wish she had mentioned that earlier when I had asked her if she had any expectations and she said she had none. Sure, I could have asked her if she was expecting her own room, and I felt guilty for deliberately NOT having asked her, but I got her a room. She felt bad at the price and decided to find us an airbnb. So, Tuesday morning, alone in her room, she looked for a place, with two bedrooms, and worked on a plan of where to go. I, alone in my room, thought about the situation and reading texts that Secret was sending me realized I did not want to stay in Beijing. Feeling bad for China girl, I told her I needed to go back to Thailand.

She took it well and all I will say is that rather than leave that day I decided to say and leave the next day (Wednesday) so she could go see the Forbidden City and Museum. I did owe her that. (She said she would not stay in the city if I left.) To exchange my money, we had to go to a bank, a far cry from Pattaya. I have no idea of how much it cost me, but I needed cash so I could start paying for things and to reimburse her for her expenses.

We did see the Forbidden City as well as the Olympic area, which was quite impressive. One thing about Beijing is it is a clean city and many of the government buildings were huge, but I didn't like it. When we got to the airbnb place, it was small, smelled and was old and in bad need of paint in the common areas. So, to me, the city had no heart. Big, open and impressive for show, but it was skin deep. Maybe the place would grow on me, put seeing soldiers at the National Museum practicing drawing and aiming rifles, it was clear this was a communist country.

Surprisingly, China girl didn't want any money from me other than the cost of the room that she had paid. I argued with her that I said I would pay for ALL of her expenses, but all she would accept from me was reimbursement for the room. Well, I managed to leave her enough to pay, I hoped, for her airfare out and train ride back to Shanghai, as well as for all the things that she had paid for when we were together. China girl was a great woman and I hurt her and maybe made her miss a few days of work, but those were sunk costs and I think I made the best decision. I do think I destroyed the friendship that she thought we had, but really, I am over twice her age and she rarely texted me, so if she drops me, that is really no loss to her or to me I suppose.

The main decision for me was who to go see in Thailand. I could surprise my Thai GF and ask her to meet me in Bangkok, but tell her to ask no questions. I gave that serious consideration. Or I could return to Pattaya and surprise Secret. I would have better sex with Secret, but I do miss my Thai GF. But, I was avoiding her as I am miffed she had failed to apply for a visa, so the thought of maintaining my stand with her, and the thoughts of having good sex, caused Pattaya and Secret to win.

But yes, I am back in Pattaya as of Wednesday night until Saturday morning.

Thursday.

Secret and I slept late, ate then she left at about 11:30 and I started on these reports. It was around 2:30 PM I guess when Banana Boy texted, asking about my plans. We agreed to meet at Terminal 21 at the KFC which has FREE SODA REFILLS! This is standard practice in the USA, so I am happy to see the beginnings of it coming here. We headed to Soi 6 where I was aggravating him as I didn't want to venture to far west where Secret was patiently waiting me to come get her, with him saying that was were the best bars were! BUt heck, she had texted me saying she had bar fined herself and was waiting for me! I told her to give me a few hours. I was hoping to find a cutie to be with before going to her.

Anyway, we arrive on Soi 6 after 3:30 I think, and the place was loaded with ladies! There were not that many dudes, but it was overflowing almost with bar girls. I had never seen Soi 6 like this. They were desperate! It was like, when I left Sunday, half the men left too. BB said low season was here. I guess so, but it happened so quickly!

After we traveled about halfway down I wanted to turn back. BB asked why, and I said I didn't want to risk Secret seeing me. He says that bar is way down there and we can get closer. I say no it isn't that far and even if she is upstairs waiting for me, all the people there and in the adjacent clubs knows me and will tell her I am there. These girls love to gossip. He scoffs and I figure I should man up, so we go closer before turning back around. I am further aggravating him as he is looking for me to decide a bar to go in to, and I just keep walking and looking. He says he is thirsty and I keep walking but we finally enter Nature Bar, if I remember correctly. There is a girl there I like and, of course, BB knows her. A girl comes over to us to take our drink order, and she points out a girl she claims likes me and my looking causes her to come over. I look at BB, as in "what do I do" as he knows I likes this other girl, and he eventually points out the girl I like to his girl, who goes over to her, but the girl I like says she is not feeling well today. BB says she is saying that because he is there. I guess it can't be because I am too old and even though there are a 1000 girls working with a dozen men on the street, she would rather take her chances. Haha We soon leave and I spot a girl but keep walking, and when we come back around I don't see her. BB is telling me I am starting to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] the girls off (and probably him), then I get a text from Secret. I was busted. Sure enough, she said a friend saw me there. So we walk down that way and she is there waiting for me, all dressed and ready to go. Well, I could use BB to say I was going to stay with him a while longer while I again try to find a girl, but if I did that I would end up settling for someone like Pu and end up wondering why did I BF this woman! While I sure don't need to let Secret, a bar girl, keep me from seeing someone else, I am thinking that I will get better sex from her than from anyone else in Pattaya, so while I like variety, why risk pissing Secret off for a lousy encounter with a random woman? I look at BB and he sees I am torn, but he understands, if possibly not thinking I am crazy, and I go inside to leave him to fend for himself.

Anyway, all the girls inside are happy even though there are hardly any guys out and about, and even the mamasan is happy, and I quickly leave with Secret. We walk to hotel as the day is nice (cloudy with a nice breeze). There are preparations for a big seafood fest celebration along the beach, so I guess Friday and Saturday will be full of beach vendors and food. At the hotel we basically nap for a few hours. After dark we get up and go for dinner then, I guess around 9 PM, head to WS. The baht bus gets there quickly and didn't come to a halt until we were past McDonalds. And on WS, while it was busy, where were the Chinese? We walked down a ways then turned around and went back to the Stones House. There was a different band who I enjoyed, as they played a lot of songs from the 70's. The band we normally see took over after 11 PM. Decidedly fewer Chinese there as I could tell by the cleaner air (fewer smokers), put it eventually filled up.

Back at the hotel, another great round of sex. It is more GF-like, but I got her to go down on me, something she hadn't been doing. Once she got started, she was awesome.

Friday.

My last day. Secret and I had breakfast and she left. She told me she has to return home to Issan tomorrow. I offered to let her come with me to BKK so she could save money and she agreed. So, I expect her to be with me tonight for some final sex, then we will both head out around 8 AM Saturday. I will depart for Taipai and home late that morning and she will take a ride to where ever in Issan.

I am about ready to head out for my last afternoon in Pattaya. I am thinking of returning to the East end of Soi 6. BB tells me not to take the chance of Secret finding out (he was so unconcerned yesterday! And recommended other options. No, I will return to Soi 6 I think. I did notice a bit less affection from Secret and as of 1:30 today she has not asked when I will be by to see her. I had told BB I might (again) try to get to WS to BF that hottie I keep meaning to find, but remembering the seafood festival on BR tonight, I might be better served grabbing my camera and Secret and having some fun there. I mean, again, Secret is pretty but not especially hot. But I know the hot girl I may be likely to find will give bad sex. So what do I do? Try for the hot girl and hope for the best but know I will get lousy sex, or go with the same-old pretty girl who I know I can do BB with and it will be awesome? Sigh.

Well, it is approaching 2 PM and I am thinking I will re-hit the Terminal 21 KFC, though I might first hit the east end of Soi 6. I can then get Secret and go with her to the seafood fest, then maybe tell her to wait for me in my hotel while I go to WS with a friend. I don't want to take her there as I don't want to stay out late as we have to get up early. I could try to BF a gogo girl early and go to a short time hotel then return to Secret. But knowing me, I will stick with Secret and the search on Soi 6 will be another bust.

I will go on and post this now as I may not have time to write what happens later for a number of days. If I can get in a quick report than is interesting however, I will try. I will also post an overview of my adventures on this, my longest trip to Pattaya ever. But I will say that I have not fallen in love with a bar girl. My Thai GF is still in my heart and I will have one heck of a decision to make if she ultimately fails to obtain a visa.

[QUOTE=FLHawk;2319281]Sure, I could have asked her if she was expecting her own room, and I felt guilty for deliberately NOT having asked her, but I got her a room. She felt bad at the price [/QUOTE]Why do you keep feeling guilty for stuff involving chicks, especially when you are the one paying for shit? Had this chick in Dominican Republic once tell me that we are friends while we were at dinner. We had already fucked and she ordered shrimp at dinner. I told her that we were lovers. We went back and forth until I finally told her that friends don't eat shrimp. She asked what do they eat then? I said whatever they pay for. From then on we were lovers.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2319429]Why do you keep feeling guilty for stuff involving chicks, especially when you are the one paying for shit? [/QUOTE]You are correct. And indeed, when I made the decision to leave China I had you in mind, and how you would have called me out had I stayed and then reported I was unhappy. But I was never lovers with China girl and she had trusted me and left work to show me around, and I backed away when she was obviously not going to have sex with me. Well, that is not totally correct, but had she not objected to the sleeping arrangements, even if we never shared a bed, I would likely still be in China.

And an update. As many of you may have already guessed, once I got to Soi 6 I breezed passed all the crowded bars and went directly to Secret's bar. She was obviously happy, and some of the girls there made fun of me I guess, I don't know. She was happy to let me LT her but before leaving she needed to get her nails done, which she had scheduled before I came by. She also will need to come back later to pick up some laundry and to finish her own packing. While she was waiting for her nail appointment, I went to a hair place close by and ended up letting a LB cut and color my hair. She did pretty good, taking plenty of time. It is a tad darker that I wanted.

My main blunder is I should have gone to KFC first before meeting up with Secret. When we left, she wanted to walk down Beach Road and see the seafood fest, then go to the hotel, where she promptly crashed. That gave me time to pack up most of my things, but at 7 PM now I need to wake her up or she won't be able to get sleep tonight as we have to get up by 7:30 in the morning.

There likely won't be much more news tonight. We will either eat at Terminal 21 or at the festival. If we head to WS, it will be for the early show at Stones House then back here and for, me at least, sleep. I will be doing good to get 2 or 3 hours on the plane Saturday night, so the more I can get tonight the better. For her, I think she can sleep most anytime.

When I get home I will come back and post the final ending, then provide some comments about my 9th visit to Pattaya. After this trip I think I have one more Pattaya trip in me, but I don't know about any more beyond 2019. I am getting old; the frustrations from not being able to come in a condom or even orally is getting too much; and I need to decide about the Thai GF. I don't think Secret will be much of a factor in whether I come back or not. In a way, her presence could be limiting, but for this trip I was worried about Jen slowing me down, and do you even remember who Jen is now?? But if and when I finally commit to the Thai GF, Pattaya will be over, and it is not fair for me to keep her waiting while I try to live out my fantasies that are getting more difficult to live out each year.

But yeah, I had a good trip this time, thanks to Banana Boy for hanging out with me and giving advice, and to my fortunate find of Secret girl who has made sex enjoyable.

[QUOTE=FLHawk;2319467]After this trip I think I have one more Pattaya trip in me, but I don't know about any more beyond 2019. I am getting old; the frustrations from not being able to come in a condom or even orally is getting too much[/QUOTE]You need to visit Jakarta or Phnom Penh then. They barely even know what condoms are in those cities. I assume the Philippines is the same. Same for any girl you've been with on Soi 6 more than 2 or 3 times in a week. You're unlucky to find one who will not do BBFS. Same for places like Kinnaree and Soi Full Love Inn.

[QUOTE=FLHawk;2319444]You are correct. And indeed, when I made the decision to leave China I had you in mind, and how you would have called me out had I stayed and then reported I was unhappy. But I was never lovers with China girl and she had trusted me and left work to show me around, and I backed away when she was obviously not going to have sex with me. Well, that is not totally correct, but had she not objected to the sleeping arrangements, even if we never shared a bed, I would likely still be in China.[/QUOTE]That is why I said go to have fun. I don't plan trips around pussy. I plan around scuba diving and tourist stuff. I may meet chicks online with only the intention of having a good time, going out and her showing me around. If it ends up that I want to fuck and they don't, then that is what I use ISG for. One click and I know where to find pussy.

If I was only friends with a chick, I would have no problem telling her I am going out to look for some chicks to fuck. I would not abandon a trip based on one chick because she is not my reason for going there and I would always have backups in addition to her.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2319518]That is why I said go to have fun. I don't plan trips around pussy. I plan around scuba diving and tourist stuff. I may meet chicks online with only the intention of having a good time, going out and her showing me around. If it ends up that I want to fuck and they don't, then that is what I use ISG for. One click and I know where to find pussy.

If I was only friends with a chick, I would have no problem telling her I am going out to look for some chicks to fuck. I would not abandon a trip based on one chick because she is not my reason for going there and I would always have backups in addition to her.[/QUOTE]What a pity. He missed an opportunity of seeing China with a local and that's not to be missed. I wouldn't have traded my experiences like that for anything else. Getting pussy is an everyday occurrence almost anywhere in the world. Seems obsessed which can be blinding to a hell of a lot else going on. But hey.

[QUOTE=FLHawk;2319444]You are correct. And indeed, when I made the decision to leave China I had you in mind, and how you would have called me out had I stayed and then reported I was unhappy. But I was never lovers with China girl and she had trusted me and left work to show me around, and I backed away when she was obviously not going to have sex with me. Well, that is not totally correct, but had she not objected to the sleeping arrangements, even if we never shared a bed, I would likely still be in China.[/QUOTE]Dude. You did what you thought was best as being a quality human being. And that is admirable not shameful. No need to apologize to anyone. If Mr E wants to berate a girl for ordering expensive food that is up to him. You do you.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2319660]Dude. You did what you thought was best as being a quality human being. And that is admirable not shameful. No need to apologize to anyone. If Mr E wants to berate a girl for ordering expensive food that is up to him. You do you.[/QUOTE]What the? You just said my whole point, which was no need to feel guilty and apologize to anyone! I did not berate anyone and the food was not expensive. All I did was make clear the parameters of the relationship, which most people fail to do.

And I hope you are not referring to me as a hater. That could not be farther from the truth. But if you are in fact doing that, then you can refer to FL's post when we hung out together in Pattaya. That is the problem with the internet.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2319670]What the? You just said my whole point, which was no need to feel guilty and apologize to anyone! I did not berate anyone and the food was not expensive. All I did was make clear the parameters of the relationship, which most people fail to do.

And I hope you are not referring to me as a hater. That could not be farther from the truth. But if you are in fact doing that, then you can refer to FL's post when we hung out together in Pattaya. That is the problem with the internet.[/QUOTE]OK. Fair enough. If we both think FLH has done admirably navigating the tricky GFE line then we are surely aligned. It's tough business to get really close to girls and then figure out distance again. Hard for me at least.