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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1565782]Selling of sex toys is illegal in Thailand. But you can find them on Suk.[/QUOTE]I'l tag onto the OP's question. I understand there are wholesalers of sex toys in Chinatown. Has anyone shopped there? Does anyone know where in Chinatown?
[QUOTE=Pitingoul;1566013]Thanks for info, I know that after 1 am all the girls move to Mixx Disco from cm2 but fro 10:30 to 1 am is there any other disco they hang out.[/QUOTE]Climax under the Ambassador seems to draw some, but Skogis is the guy with the true expertise in regard to the Hi So club circuit
[QUOTE=MeteorMan;1565980]Should I carry my passport on me at all times?[/QUOTE]Always have a full color COPY with you, and your original safely hidden in your hotel room.
The risk of losing your original passport (you are basically screwed if you lose it) is so severe, its usually greater than the problems presented of not having your original passport on you should LE stop you for something.
Right near Soi 7 there is Kodak shop and the guy will make a nice color copy of your passport and all the latest pages, and it doesn't cost much either
[quote=breadman;1566095]question: im still new to the bangkok scene but have noticed some good looking ladies rep001tered around on sukhumvit (not the obvious girls by nana). im assuming they are p4p girls, if i was just in the hunt for sex and not spending some time watching the girls in the gogo's id give them a better look. whats the going rate for these girls standing around in front of nana or around that area?[/quote]1500 bahts is the standard, however 2nd time (repeating) with same girl on another day, they sometimes will offer it for 1000 bahts since you by then are a known commodity. some guys also offer 700 baht, get turned down, but then request the girl contact them later that night if they are interested, and apparently some do call.
you can offer 1000 for starters and perhaps get it for 1200, but some will and some won't
starting later afternoon toward early evenings there is actually a line of freelancers working all the way from in the vicinity of the parking lot in front of strikers sports bar on soi 4 all the way to thermae which is between soi 13 and soi 15. even in the morning there are girls waiting between soi 3 and soi 5.
[QUOTE=Western787;1565995]If you think about it, its not exactly "contempt and disrespect" for a Thai girl to turn Farangs down for presumptively having a large dick. Its more like fear of the unknown.[/QUOTE]Nope, its contempt and disrespect. I have seen gals in Thermae roll their eyes, look away, and just ignore white dudes in Thermae. Even seen some scowl. Hey, it is their choice about who to go with, but the impolite crap, nah. That kind of treatment is very disrespectful here.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1566151]Nope, its contempt and disrespect. I have seen gals in Thermae roll their eyes, look away, and just ignore white dudes in Thermae. Even seen some scowl. Hey, it is their choice about who to go with, but the impolite crap, nah. That kind of treatment is very disrespectful here.[/QUOTE]And it is particularly uncalled for considering the polite, respectful way all farangs treat WGs.
[QUOTE=Western787; 1566127]1500 bahts is the standard, however 2nd time (repeating) with same girl on another day, they sometimes will offer it for 1000 bahts since you by then are a known commodity. Some guys also offer 700 baht, get turned down, but then request the girl contact them later that night if they are interested, and apparently some do call.
You can offer 1000 for starters and perhaps get it for 1200, but some will and some won't.
Starting later afternoon toward early evenings there is actually a line of freelancers working all the way from in the vicinity of the parking lot in front of Strikers Sports Bar on Soi 4 all the way to Thermae which is between Soi 13 and Soi 15. Even in the morning there are girls waiting between Soi 3 and Soi 5.[/QUOTE]Is 1500B really the standard? In the last couple of months I was quoted 700B by an older woman (40 and 6/10 but sweet and very horny) .1000B by 3 good looking young girls (early 20s and 7/10) and 1200B by 1 good looking young girl (23, 7/10).
That last one is them and she's very recommendable. She works in the afternoons until early in the evening between soi 3 and 5. If you spot a cute looking girl with a very big smile on her face (and I mean BIG; she must be the reason they call Thailand the land of smiles) then that's her. Very nice girl.
[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1566154]And it is particularly uncalled for considering the polite, respectful way all farangs treat WGs.[/QUOTE]Paul, almost every time I am in Tmae, which is rare these days, I see a smiling farang approach a gal and get met with a scowl or just completely ignored. Completely uncalled for.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1566151]I have seen gals in Thermae roll their eyes, look away, and just ignore white dudes in Thermae.[/QUOTE]You mean they treat Farangs just like a young hottie would treat a 20 plus years older guy in a real (non P4P) bar, well that's why popcorn is sold cheap, to enjoy the entertainment watching customers (who most likely have flown across the world) get shot down and embarassed and flustered trying to comprehend why a girl standing in one spot for often 3 hours won't accept OTC.
Apparently these Japs are sometimes taking these girls for multi day arrangements of some type, and that's why these girls are so patient. Note in some instances by 1 AM (an hour before approximate close) certain remaining hotties will just walk out preemptively rather than just wait to the very end, apparently to try it again another night.
Any guy doing even a cursory bit of homework on this joint before getting there, is going to get the deal. Or can quickly get the scene when arriving.
Thais have long held Japanese culture and teen idols and celebrities in great awe, thus explaining why some Thermae girls get so giddy once an acceptable Japanese guy selects them, as its often some kind of teen dream thing. There is far more going on here than the 3 3 3 or 3 4 5 rules or whatever, so at least with the super cuties Farangs will have difficulty competing.
[QUOTE=Western787;1565995]If you think about it, its not exactly "contempt and disrespect" for a Thai girl to turn Farangs down for presumptively having a large dick. Its more like fear of the unknown.[/QUOTE]I think the story of the Big White Dick belongs to the past history and girls do well know it isn't that big.
Most of them say that to please the customer from one side and to try to avoid to wear out their pussy for the other side.
[QUOTE=Western787; 1566122]Always have a full color COPY with you, and your original safely hidden in your hotel room.
The risk of losing your original passport (you are basically screwed if you lose it) is so severe, its usually greater than the problems presented of not having your original passport on you should LE stop you for something.
Right near Soi 7 there is Kodak shop and the guy will make a nice color copy of your passport and all the latest pages, and it doesn't cost much either[/QUOTE]When making copies of you passport or other documents with sensitive personal information, please remember that all modern copy machines are essentially computers with memories that keep the image of you documents on their memories and / or hard drives. So anything you copy on a commercial or large scale public copier is stored on its hard drive.
There has been incidents in the past few years where old discarded machines were dumped at landfills and hackers were able to salvage the memories stored on these drives. If my memory serves me, a law firm in CA was essentially blackmailed for all the confidential client data that was left on their old copier. It had over 10 years of documents stored in the internal memory of the copier!
[QUOTE=BionicMan; 1566172]I think the story of the Big White Dick belongs to the past history and girls do well know it isn't that big.
Most of them say that to please the customer from one side and to try to avoid to wear out their pussy for the other side.[/QUOTE] Typical Oz, euro or other western based Farangs have considerably larger average size than Asians, so its hardly a myth in relative terms. Asians in general do in fact have the smallest average dick sizes in the world, and African countries the largest, something very obvious on the map below
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[QUOTE=Western787; 1566171]You mean they treat Farangs just like a young hottie would treat a 20 plus years older guy in a real (non P4P) bar, well that's why popcorn is sold cheap, to enjoy the entertainment watching customers (who most likely have flown across the world) get shot down and embarassed and flustered trying to comprehend why a girl standing in one spot for often 3 hours won't accept OTC.
Apparently these Japs are sometimes taking these girls for multi day arrangements of some type, and that's why these girls are so patient. Note in some instances by 1 pm (and hour before approximate close) certain remaining hotties will just walk out preemptively rather than just wait to the very end, apparently to try it again another night.
Any guy doing even a cursory bit of homework on this joint before getting there, is going to get the deal. Or can quickly get the scene when arriving.[/QUOTE]Actually a gal in a non-P4P bar in Thailand would not treat anyone who was being nice to her like that. She would smile and deflect.
I don't find it entertaining at all. I find it quite obnoxious and offensive. These are P4P girls which in this country makes it even worse. It has nothing to do with "competing." It is simply ill mannered.
[QUOTE=MeteorMan; 1565980]Should I carry my passport on me at all times?
Should I bring freelancers to my hotels, or is that generally an unsafe thing to do?
Also putting valuables in the hotel safe. Whats stopping the hotel employees from stealing or giving the stuff to someone else?
What type of cell phones do you guys use when you're there. I have a galaxy s3, thats not too flashy is it. I mean its common in the US.
Short Time is generally two hours. So how do I negotiate for 30min to 1hr. Or is that frowned upon?[/QUOTE]Carry a photocopy of your passport, leave the real thing locked away in the hotel safe.
Freelancers are safe but before you take her to the hotel say to her "you have your ID card for hotel reception". If she says no. Avoid. If she says yes then when you go into the hotel get reception to take her ID card (many hotels reception will ask for it anyway). When she leaves the hotel reception will call you and ask if its ok to let her have her ID card. If you say yes, she can leave. This is for your security, its not an inconvenience, its a good measure of security that she will not hack you to death in the shower (joking) , or something less severe like steal a watch or a wallet.
Nothing stops thieves, best you can do is check your safe each time you come back to ensure nothing is missing.
Phone thieves are looking for S5's and Iphone 5's at the moment, anything less is not worth it. S3 is old, nobody interested in that.
Short time is short time. It means 1 shot. If you want 2 or more you better negotiate that before you take the girl. If you want something different (like anal) again agree with the girl before you take her. Never pay in advance. Its a sure fire way to get a lousy time.
Short time (1 shot) is generally 1000 to 1500 baht. Be prepared to negotiate and also be prepared to appear not interested in they refuse 1500 baht and want say 2000 baht- you are the buyer. And the buyer chooses.
Long time generally 2000 baht is given in the morning. Do not go above 3000 baht. There are none that are worth 3000 baht.
As a rule of thumb the best value is now in massage places. Like in Soi 26/1, Soi 24, Soi 33 etc. You get a form of massage, a single shot (sometimes multiple) , a shower before and after and all for around 2000 to 2500 baht total price. If you pay for the massage separate then its generally 600 baht for 90 mins and you give the girl 1500 baht, or if you pay all up front for body massage, say 2100 baht. The girls tip is included already.
Bangkok is basically now all about shots or company. If you want a good fuck then use massage places. Far cheaper and service is generally always good. If you want to pay for company then take girls out of bars / gogo's but it will cost you a load more money for having her hang around to kill your loneliness.
[QUOTE=Western787;1566119]Climax under the Ambassador seems to draw some, but Skogis is the guy with the true expertise in regard to the Hi So club circuit[/QUOTE]Hehe well well but atleast I know my way around a few circuites by now. But as you may have noticed I tend to do a mixed mongeringprogram with FL pick ups from places like Climax, Levels, Bash, Insanity, Q Bar, Spasso, Shocks66 etc. I would not rate them, maby except Levels, as hi so clubs but that is probably due to individual preferences. Dealing with my regular girls I tend to hit the more upscale part of BKK's nightlife as Thong Lor area. Here other mechanisms comes into play than in mentioned clubs. Mostly I allready have dates arranged when going here as in an all in wine, dine, party and fuck program.
G-clubs have lately somewhat become a small favorite I e The Pimp and girls are hired here bcs they enjoy to party and they look beautiful, have well tuned bodies and are in general of top quality both in socializing and in bed. Be prepared to spend some serious cash though but by buying a membership deal (they come in many forms)you will be let off easier. I paid 30000bhts for free admittions, access to VIPs. 12 btls of Gold Label(for 1 year membership, the btls i presume needs to be topped up though). Girls here come with you only if they like you as they are not by any chance forced by managment to go with anyone. Payment for afterhrs pleasure are strictly between you and the girl. They are hired to entertain in the club and thats it (maby you can fuck them in a VIP designated area I don't know but I think only some kissing and ass touching will be on offer).
Reading the 4 last pages is a certain proof I did not miss anything. Pricedebate and how much better BKK was in the good old days is still running. Paul got one useful information though as we now have established sextoys are not legal for sale in Thailand. Quite logic by the way as most porn sites are beeing blocked (yes, I know my way around them blocades). I buy some crappy toys at the stalls though to add into the bedtimefun.
For my last stays in short and also as my 2 cents thrown into the neverending pricedebate. I don't care how much people pay in bars, go go, mp, escorts, st / lt, ld and if the prices here flies uncontrolable sky high. I care only about the FL market as all other is not my idea of having a good time and my main aim is semi pros frequenting nightclubs.
Since 010114 I have been to BKK numerous of times (I think 8, only a few days each time). I have picked a good number of girls from mentioned venues (top of my post) and except from 1 girl which I paid 5k (exellent service, mind, body, attitude, performance etc) , I pay 3k each time. This is LT encounters and they all stayed for 8hrs or more. The longest almost a day. This incl multiple poppings, combination of PSE / GFE and usualy A+ is on the menu (not that this is discussed upfront just played by ear). I never discuss any price upfront so this is what I give the girls before they leave. One of these 3k encounters is actually a Spassogirl as well. Spassogirls used to crave for 5k but maby it is getting CHEAPER, hehe (officegirl I might add with her own car). All girls seems happy with my compensation. I admit that for the Spassogirl it was all a test as i was ready to pay the usual 5k but she took the money given her without an eyebrow lift of beeing unhappy.. Well well.
Except from Spasso which was 2K cheaper than before I still pay 3k for LT FL girl (not the most hardcore ones but mostly girl out to get some extra cash, they are not gone). The 3k also incl girls from G-clubs.
2 nice Beergarden girls have also joined me during this period. Great personalities and very giving girls. Paid 1k and 1, 5k for these two. Not bad at all.
So for my pussymarket prices has not changed in 8 years. In my book a LT FL girl from nightclubs was 3k and still is. In BG I have never realy paid less than 1k and have probably paid 2k as well sometimes. Me and a friend took a girl in for testing a DP she got 3k (BG pick up, this is some years ago now, she spoke some swedish by the way as she was on holiday from her swedish husband).
I put some effort into the hole deal not just beeing a business transaction. I want myself and the girls to have nice time. It is all about trust and chemistry (in my book).
By the way Thermae i have not visited for a good year now so can not comment recwnt developments. But a good year ago i did pick a girl from the asian lineup. Maby impossible today?