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[QUOTE=Dickhead;2025671]. In Argentina they say [I]mujeriego[/I] for a guy who would rather be with a different woman every night than the same damn one.[/QUOTE]Can't speak of Argentina but it is a regular word in Spanish, simply meaning a womanizer and widely used in the DR as well. Many women I spoke with, asked why they are not with the father of the child, would refer to the man's wayward ways using the word.
"mujeriego".
BTW Frannie, thanks for the equivalent term for picaflor.
[QUOTE=Frannie;2025665]Just for anyone who does not know, Picaflor means "hummingbird" in Spanish, but the word has a secondary meaning of a man who is sexually promiscuous. The restaurant was formerly run by a Belgian called Marc Couturier, and apparently offered a very good menu of fresh seafood, but the current operator Elvis, as far as I know had a business in Cabarete that he was forced to close and relocated.
Given that the location is a bit obscure and will depend on the, ahem, goodwill of taxi drivers to bring in gourmet diners, and that the previous restaurant operator apparently went out of business in about a year, (perhaps he had a one year lease) I suspect that the restaurant / bar is largely a front for the business that makes the real money. Whether this business will survive or go the same way as Passions and CMP remains to be seen. The key issue is always "trafficking" or in Spanish "proxenetismo" which means third parties making money from prostitution and there is a certain amount of politics involved as to whether the procurator fiscal decides to collect evidence and make a case of it. Various posters here seem to be presenting anecdotal evidence that there is proxenetismo involved.
A place can look like a real restaurant, but if the menu is extensive and the service is very slow, it could indicate that the food is actually being prepared and paid for somewhere else and delivered via the back door.
Personally I do not care for these kind of places and the people who run them, but for visiting tourists the risk of getting caught up in a law enforcement raid is pretty slight.[/QUOTE]I've been there four or five times and the business is all about the girls. Elvis has been in the business for 15+ years so they aren't hurting for business believe me, a great deal of his business is from customers that don't even step foot in the building, I've seen vans full of girls leave the place to god knows where without being picked up by people in the bar. The difference between his business and some of the others that have come and gone is that he is Dominican for one and the other is that he is in a place where nobody could give a shit about it, unlike being on Pedro Clisante.
[QUOTE=Frannie;2025665]Just for anyone who does not know, Picaflor means "hummingbird" in Spanish, but the word has a secondary meaning of a man who is sexually promiscuous. The restaurant was formerly run by a Belgian called Marc Couturier, and apparently offered a very good menu of fresh seafood, but the current operator Elvis, as far as I know had a business in Cabarete that he was forced to close and relocated.
Given that the location is a bit obscure and will depend on the, ahem, goodwill of taxi drivers to bring in gourmet diners, and that the previous restaurant operator apparently went out of business in about a year, (perhaps he had a one year lease) I suspect that the restaurant / bar is largely a front for the business that makes the real money. Whether this business will survive or go the same way as Passions and CMP remains to be seen. The key issue is always "trafficking" or in Spanish "proxenetismo" which means third parties making money from prostitution and there is a certain amount of politics involved as to whether the procurator fiscal decides to collect evidence and make a case of it. Various posters here seem to be presenting anecdotal evidence that there is proxenetismo involved..[/QUOTE]I'm always surprised that our indomitable mongers are so willing to give up the names, addresses, management, and even the times that these illegal businesses operate.
Given the politics, and the vagaries of issuing and revoking licenses, and the line they arbitrarily draw between legal and unlawful premises, I'm not surprised that these illegal places are being closed down with regularity. Don't make it so easy for them
Then we get the complaints Sosua ain't what it used to be.
Does anybody believe that only mongers read this shit? Use a little discretion, there's always PM for the dirty details.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2025897]I'm always surprised that our indomitable mongers are so willing to give up the names, addresses, management, and even the times that these illegal businesses operate.[/QUOTE]You seriously believe that without this board nobody else (authorities) would know Pica Flor, Field of Dreams, Cristal, Black Beard's, etc existed? These are public places that advertise themselves and you can just walk into them. It is not like they are encompassed by a fortress and require a secret code to go inside. Peter of La Pasion is not sitting around saying damn if it wasn't for those ISG mongers I would still have my brothel.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2025936]You seriously believe that without this board nobody else (authorities) would know Pica Flor, Field of Dreams, Cristal, Black Beard's, etc existed? These are public places that advertise themselves and you can just walk into them. It is not like they are encompassed by a fortress and require a secret code to go inside. Peter of La Pasion is not sitting around saying damn if it wasn't for those ISG mongers I would still have my brothel.[/QUOTE]Of course not, but if I was illegally selling drugs, I wouldn't see the point in my customers publishing my name, address, my staff in some International Trade Magazine. The places I am talking about are breaking the law, so why give any excuse to them to shut down one more, in a long line of bars that got "too notorious".
They are continually looking for any excuse to shut down these places and deport, even jail individuals (Cuba Dave and many more) that make these places "famous" and embarrass the newly elected politicians.
You are obviously not familiar with how corrupt politics works in these places, or how from time to time, "examples" are set during political campaigns. It happens all the time in Sosua.
"Round up the usual suspects!" - Capt. Renault, Casablanca. :)
It's a legitimate subject for discussion here!
First time in Sosua day 3.
We decided to hit up Sosua Beach during the day and hope for some day time action. Fun place, a few day walkers but nothing worth propositioning. Also since it was a religious holiday they weren't supposed to serve bottled drinks. I. e. Beer, liquor.
After a few hours at the beach we head to Playero super market. On the way there I see a tight bodied chica and I wave her over. Unfortunately her smile was beyond repair and had to pass. But I did get good info that Classico won't open til midnight due to it being the Friday before Easter. She said go to cabaret, many locals will be there.
My group decide to hit up Cabarete early around 830. Our driver asks why we are going so early. It turns out the party doesn't start til midnight in cabaret either and he tried to warn him but didn't listen. It also turns out they have the same liquor ban til midnight in Cabarete as well. Since we were the only group at this particular beach bar / resto we worked out a deal on a bottle of scotch. There was a catch though, we were forced to keep the bottle in a closet behind the bar and go in two at a time to pour our own drinks haha. Crazy situation but didn't bother us. At least they found a work around to the liquor ban.
During the few hours we were there leading up to midnight the crowds grew and the worth while chicas started to show up. They tried to catch eyes with our group but nothing stuck out. In the mean time we meet a local who says he has the line on chicas, we explain we've seen the girls at PF already. He says that he'll work it out to where 30 girls show to our villa at anytime and we can choose whoever we like. Sounds like a plan! What's the worse that can happen? We clear it with the villa host and he says "of course happens all the time" haha. I'm thinking to myself why didn't we do this from night 1! Either way it's going to happen tomorrow which is Saturday and our last day.
1230 am rolls around and we don't choose a chica from cabarete and head for Classico.
Once we get to Classico the talent was lack luster. Half the group head to PF the other half head to bed alone. I choose to head home alone. No biggie.
Looking forward to another great nights rest. Now it's a countdown til 2 pm where supposedly 30 plus girls are to show up.
Stay tuned for the next report.
JB007.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2025936]You seriously believe that without this board nobody else (authorities) would know Pica Flor, Field of Dreams, Cristal, Black Beard's, etc existed? These are public places that advertise themselves and you can just walk into them. It is not like they are encompassed by a fortress and require a secret code to go inside. Peter of La Pasion is not sitting around saying damn if it wasn't for those ISG mongers I would still have my brothel.[/QUOTE]Yeah if people are running a business, they are going to want people to know about. Most of the guys that are messing up Sousa don't even know sites like ISG exists. If they read sites like ISG they would not be so brainless and dumb, to pay chicas outrages prices and be a Western Union Sucker.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2025954]Of course not, but if I was illegally selling drugs, I wouldn't see the point in my customers publishing my name, address, my staff in some International Trade Magazine. The places I am talking about are breaking the law, so why give any excuse to them to shut down one more, in a long line of bars that got "too notorious".[/QUOTE]I have never been to Pica Flor, but all the other places I am sure are registered businesses, so they have already published that information themselves.
[QUOTE=JamesBlack007;2025964]First time in Sosua day 3.
We decided to hit up Sosua Beach during the day and hope for some day time action. Fun place, a few day walkers but nothing worth propositioning. Also since it was a religious holiday they weren't supposed to serve bottled drinks. I. e. Beer, liquor.
After a few hours at the beach we head to Playero super market. On the way there I see a tight bodied chica and I wave her over. Unfortunately her smile was beyond repair and had to pass. But I did get good info that Classico won't open til midnight due to it being the Friday before Easter. She said go to cabaret, many locals will be there.
My group decide to hit up Cabarete early around 830. Our driver asks why we are going so early. It turns out the party doesn't start til midnight in cabaret either and he tried to warn him but didn't listen. It also turns out they have the same liquor ban til midnight in Cabarete as well. Since we were the only group at this particular beach bar / resto we worked out a deal on a bottle of scotch. There was a catch though, we were forced to keep the bottle in a closet behind the bar and go in two at a time to pour our own drinks haha. Crazy situation but didn't bother us. At least they found a work around to the liquor ban..[/QUOTE]Be sure to get the name and number of the Contact who can provide 30+ girls for you to choose from and post. Or PM me! Good contacts are always good. Hopefully it doesn't end up being 3 guys with guns!
If anyone has any reliable, high quality Instagram girls and wouldn't mind sharing, would appreciate a PM with usernames.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=JamesBlack007;2025964]First time in Sosua day 3.
We decided to hit up Sosua Beach during the day and hope for some day time action. Fun place, a few day walkers but nothing worth propositioning. Also since it was a religious holiday they weren't supposed to serve bottled drinks. I. e. Beer, liquor.
After a few hours at the beach we head to Playero super market. On the way there I see a tight bodied chica and I wave her over. Unfortunately her smile was beyond repair and had to pass. But I did get good info that Classico won't open til midnight due to it being the Friday before Easter. She said go to cabaret, many locals will be there.
My group decide to hit up Cabarete early around 830. Our driver asks why we are going so early. It turns out the party doesn't start til midnight in cabaret either and he tried to warn him but didn't listen. It also turns out they have the same liquor ban til midnight in Cabarete as well. Since we were the only group at this particular beach bar / resto we worked out a deal on a bottle of scotch. There was a catch though, we were forced to keep the bottle in a closet behind the bar and go in two at a time to pour our own drinks haha. Crazy situation but didn't bother us. At least they found a work around to the liquor ban.
During the few hours we were there leading up to midnight the crowds grew and the worth while chicas started to show up. They tried to catch eyes with our group but nothing stuck out. In the mean time we meet a local who says he has the line on chicas, we explain we've seen the girls at PF already. He says that he'll work it out to where 30 girls show to our villa at anytime and we can choose whoever we like. Sounds like a plan! What's the worse that can happen? We clear it with the villa host and he says "of course happens all the time" haha. I'm thinking to myself why didn't we do this from night 1! Either way it's going to happen tomorrow which is Saturday and our last day.
1230 am rolls around and we don't choose a chica from cabarete and head for Classico.
Once we get to Classico the talent was lack luster. Half the group head to PF the other half head to bed alone. I choose to head home alone. No biggie.
Looking forward to another great nights rest. Now it's a countdown til 2 pm where supposedly 30 plus girls are to show up.
Stay tuned for the next report.
JB007.[/QUOTE]We will stay tuned. You are bringing us along on this trip.
I would find it very restrictive and confining these days to be obligated to group activity. But I've been there in the past and have some great memories of some great companionship.
For me Sosua is an individual experience, with no time table, and no schedule. You might try that, down the road.
But you are an optimistic young guy, open to the new, and obviously are an asset to any group.
Thanks for the reports!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2025986]I have never been to Pica Flor, but all the other places I am sure are registered businesses, so they have already published that information themselves.[/QUOTE]They don't post the owner's name and how he "guarantees service", and the details on exactly how he divides up the monger money between him and his 30 hoes. .
But, no biggie. Maybe it's just me wondering whatever happened to street smarts and street cred!
[QUOTE=Oakie;2025897]I'm always surprised that our indomitable mongers are so willing to give up the names, addresses, management, and even the times that these illegal businesses operate.
Given the politics, and the vagaries of issuing and revoking licenses, and the line they arbitrarily draw between legal and unlawful premises, I'm not surprised that these illegal places are being closed down with regularity. Don't make it so easy for them
Then we get the complaints Sosua ain't what it used to be.
Does anybody believe that only mongers read this shit? Use a little discretion, there's always PM for the dirty details.[/QUOTE]The owner is Dominican and has been in business for 15+ years, I'm sure he isn't getting shut down any time soon. I'm pretty sure that all of the other places that got shut down were owned by foreigners. FOD takes payments for girls now but guess what, the owners are Dominican, see a pattern here?
[QUOTE=Oakie;2025993]They don't post the owner's name and how he "guarantees service", and the details on exactly how he divides up the monger money between him and his 30 hoes. .
But, no biggie. Maybe it's just me wondering whatever happened to street smarts and street cred![/QUOTE]Now you're just being outright silly, if you think for one minute that ALL the authorities know who he is and what he is then you are very naive.
[QUOTE=JamesBlack007;2025964]In the mean time we meet a local who says he has the line on chicas, we explain we've seen the girls at PF already. He says that he'll work it out to where 30 girls show to our villa at anytime and we can choose whoever we like. Sounds like a plan! What's the worse that can happen? We clear it with the villa host and he says "of course happens all the time" haha. I'm thinking to myself why didn't we do this from night 1!...Now w it's a countdown til 2 pm where supposedly 30 plus girls are to show up.[/QUOTE]What's the worst that can happen? In 2015 or 2016, the local authorities raided a villa in Sosua and a bunch of American or European guys got arrested. Why? Because in addition to having legal age chicas at the villa, there were also several less-than-legal-age chicas present. (One of the veteran Sosua mongers might be able to find a link to that story). One monger getting arrested for a less-than-legal-age chica isn't newspaper headline material, but a group of guys getting arrested for being with less-than-legal-age chicas is the stuff newspaper editors drool over and the stuff that makes sure the local authorities get an increase in their budget for the next fiscal year.
This situation is exactly why I avoid touts and hawkers like the plague in foreign countries. A "Helpy Helperton" befriending you and your group could easily be working with local authorities to set everyone up for a big fall. The "Helpy Helperton" gets a little money under the table from the local authorities for the bait and the local authorities get major publicity for hooking the targets and reeling them in.
Looking forward to reading Sosua Day 4, JB007.