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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1566461]I really think that depends on how you "hit" on the woman. If you are polite and friendly you would probably not get "nasty" in return. If you were a complete douchebag, then yes you would.[/QUOTE]
You are dreaming if you don't think even "polite and friendly" 50 year old males hitting on 25 year old hotties in (regular non P4P) western clubs don't get treated rudely (whether eyerolling or ignoring) on a fairly regular basis simply because of their age, and the reason is simple. Hotties generally don't want a guy their father's age.

Now as for Thermae, most of the girls shooting Farangs down over and over again, are at least polite in a cursory way at least.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1565380]The most telling Western Expression about being under the yoke of feminist domination is the phrase "did you get lucky last night" referring to a friend asking a friend if he picked up a girl and got laid last night. In Asia there is no luck involved. When a man goes out looking for pussy he ALWAYS finds it. In Bangkok the shoe is on the other foot and it is the girl that gets lucky when she hooks a customer. The OP will learn this the more he travels to LOS and frees himself of the Western mindset. He will also learn that there are hundreds if not thousands of Thai girls that will give him more/better service than what he received at Mandarin. As the Eagles sang, "You can't hide your lyin' [western] eyes".[/QUOTE]Guess you too are now under of the "yoke of feminist domination." Could be a bad omen for Bangkok.

Consider what you just said about getting LUCKY:

"Once in a while you can get lucky in Thermae even now. Like last year when I was there having a coke and an absolutely hot girl dressed to the 9's in black evening dress walked into the place like she owned it. She was a 7. 5 in a sea of 5's. She walked around the island twice. On her 2nd revolution I smiled and said hello. She smiled and came over. Yada yada yada. I took her back to my hotel room and had a great time. I think I posted a trip report about her last year. She told me she worked in a legal office and came to Thermae once or twice a month when she was low on funds. Believe me guys, she gave me that "I have to have her" feeling. She was 29. Perhaps she started in Thermae a long time ago in it's heyday. I don't know. She really stood out from the other girls. Somehow I misplaced her cell number and I never saw her again. Damn!"

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1566442]Thermae: the main problem is the quality is not that great. Most of the girls are sub Go Go and by that I mean sub Go Go girls that I am interested in and barfine. They wear poor quality clothing which further conveys to me a lack of overall quality. I was there recently in March. Girls on the left, Girls on the right, Girls in the center: I got the smile and the "take me" look from most. Say 85% which was a better ratio than in 2012 or 2013. I just did not see any girls that I had to have. I really like that "I have to have her feeling" that some girls give me. A few girls gave me the "you don't exist look". Now why in the world would a punter try to pick up a girl giving off that kind of vibe? I don't know. It is a newbie mistake. I have never been turned down here. I won't approach a girl giving off a bad vibe same as I won't approach a girl I am not attracted to.[/QUOTE]While there are hardened pros in there all the time (many on the right wall) , Thermae does seem to draw in some fresh faced apple pie types (the eastern version at least) some of whom are hot in a teen dream sort of way (10 to 20 tops some nights, if even that many) , and I think that's why Farangs are drawn to the place, even though the odds are not good for the average Farang in regard to pulling any out.

[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1566435]As for Thermae, even though I'll be staying next door, it's unlikely I'll even set foot in there.[/QUOTE]I assume you are talking the Sofitel next door. That could be useful for Thermae, as I've heard of guys taking rooms in the Ruamchitt, then using its close proximity (right there in fact) to solicit for 1/2 hour quickies, and apparently it works pretty well with some girls in Thermae.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1566442]Thermae: the main problem is the quality is not that great. Most of the girls are sub Go Go and by that I mean sub Go Go girls that I am interested in and barfine. They wear poor quality clothing which further conveys to me a lack of overall quality. I was there recently in March. Girls on the left, Girls on the right, Girls in the center: I got the smile and the "take me" look from most. Say 85% which was a better ratio than in 2012 or 2013. I just did not see any girls that I had to have. I really like that "I have to have her feeling" that some girls give me. A few girls gave me the "you don't exist look". ![/QUOTE]I assume you did NOT do the "General reviewing his troops" style inspection / walk by the Japs routinely do. Of course that is very rare for Farangs anyways.

[QUOTE=Western787; 1566474]Guess you too are now under of the "yoke of feminist domination." Could be a bad omen for Bangkok.

Consider what you just said about getting LUCKY:[/QUOTE]555. That's funny. I guess I was hoisted on my own petard. Or not. You know what I meant I. E. Every once in a while some pretty girls can be spotted in Thermae. Not that you are lucky if a Thermae girl will consent to shag you.

LUCKY: I guess "it depends on what the meaning of the word is." Bill Clinton

[QUOTE=Western787;1566472]You are dreaming if you don't think even "polite and friendly" 50 year old males hitting on 25 year old hotties in (regular non P4P) western clubs don't get treated rudely (whether eyerolling or ignoring) on a fairly regular basis simply because of their age, and the reason is simple. Hotties generally don't want a guy their father's age.[/QUOTE]The two ladies I met last week are not an isolated instance. Granted I don't waste my time in clubs that draw 25-year olds, I prefer bars ranging from the nice to the average to the not so nice. Less so the latter as I get older. For the past 15 years I've had no problem meeting, dating and fucking non P4P western ladies who are about 30 and younger; I've never had a lady treat me rudely, roll her eyes or ignore me; and if anything it got easier after I passed 55. Of course I observe the ladies and figure out which ones would like me to approach them before I do. Gosh, this is something I learned when I was a teenager. One of the things women complain about is that most men are socially retarded and don't know how to read when they are or aren't interested in a guy.

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[QUOTE=Western787;1566479]I assume you are talking the Sofitel next door. That could be useful for Thermae, as I've heard of guys taking rooms in the Ruamchitt, then using its close proximity (right there in fact) to solicit for 1/2 hour quickies, and apparently it works pretty well with some girls in Thermae.[/QUOTE]So now I'm confused? I thought you were advising against exposing ones ego to female abuse in Thermae. Of course maybe that is why you suggest I check it out and try to pick up a lady. ;)

Yes. I belong to Club Accor and got a great deal on a room. I checked Trivago and Trip Advisor to compare prices on multiple booking websites, then logged onto the hotel website with my club number. Got a room at 10% lower than the best price on any website. Plus I earn points and have a decent chance at getting a free upgrade when I check in.

[QUOTE=Western787;1566482]I assume you did NOT do the "General reviewing his troops" style inspection / walk by the Japs routinely do. Of course that is very rare for Farangs anyways.[/QUOTE]If it's an inspection I conduct, then it is a very informal one. My M. O. Is to slowly walk around the room a couple of times to see who is around and to note who is smiling at me and making themselves available. Then I usually sit down at the island bar near a girl or girls I found relatively attractive and order a coke. After I finish the coke I usually walk around the room again once or twice more to make sure I did not miss anybody. I smile at some of the girls, ask myself if I want to get more involved here, and then I usually head off to greener pastures. At this time of night, it is now time to head over to Climax or some other place on Soi 11.

Many of the Thermae girls simply don't want to be seen by their friends and the Japanese leaving with a Farang. It is a mark against them. Sort of like when we see a girl go off with 3 Indians! I have a friend there that I know pre-Thermae and she hooks me up with Thermae girls from time to time. Nice ones imo. But they come straight to my hotel with her. And when I see them in Thermae all I get is a brief nod and fleeting smile. Which is fine by me.

[QUOTE=Western787; 1566348]Absolutely not impossible today except perhaps with the 10 to 20 (or even lower number) obvious super cuties (out of the 120 to 150 mostly average to slightly hot girls typically in there by midnight). The most serious ones will have the Jap style hairdo and stand on the left side in a very passive way, (just as the Japs prefer it) some holding their nightbag ready to go, and wait patiently and standing very still while waiting for the "General inspecting his troops" style walk by which the Japs have down to a science.

Of course those are the precise girls many Farangs obviously fantasize about, and which (if they don't know the deal) end up making fools of themselves slobbering over them as they are turned down after seeing them standing in the same spot for hours.

I suspect (for want of a better term) some of the "teen dream" types could be bribed by Farangs, but I have never heard of anyone actually claiming successfully going OTC after overpaying at bribe levels, lets say combined with discreetly suggesting a place to meetup later.

Note the pattern you see: Farang walks up to "teen dream" and gets shot down, then (for him to save face) hits on the adjacent (generally avg girls) and they (to also save face) then also shoot him down one after the other.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Western787;1566475]While there are hardened pros in there all the time (many on the right wall) , Thermae does seem to draw in some fresh faced apple pie types (the eastern version at least) some of whom are hot in a teen dream sort of way (10 to 20 tops some nights, if even that many) , and I think that's why Farangs are drawn to the place, even though the odds are not good for the average Farang in regard to pulling any out.[/QUOTE]I haven't liked the place since 07. Used to be a party every night. When you did a "lap" gals would grab your unit, flirt, talk to you. Always girls dancing at the juke box. Drinks flowed. Now it is like a morgue in there.

[QUOTE=DRRonin;1566502]Many of the Thermae girls simply don't want to be seen by their friends and the Japanese leaving with a Farang. It is a mark against them. Sort of like when we see a girl go off with 3 Indians! I have a friend there that I know pre-Thermae and she hooks me up with Thermae girls from time to time. Nice ones imo. But they come straight to my hotel with her. And when I see them in Thermae all I get is a brief nod and fleeting smile. Which is fine by me.[/QUOTE]Yep, had one friend (young good looking farang dude) whom a very hot Thermae girl took a liking to. However, she would not be seen living with him, rather would meet him out back. She was more worried about her friends seeing her than the Japanese dudes.

[QUOTE=Western787; 1566472]You are dreaming if you don't think even "polite and friendly" 50 year old males hitting on 25 year old hotties in (regular non P4P) western clubs don't get treated rudely (whether eyerolling or ignoring) on a fairly regular basis simply because of their age, and the reason is simple. Hotties generally don't want a guy their father's age.

Now as for Thermae, most of the girls shooting Farangs down over and over again, are at least polite in a cursory way at least.[/QUOTE]And most men above 50 have a some tact and can sum up a situation with a gal in a short while. Where I come from in the US gals are not rude like that, well, unless the guy is.

And BTW, we came to Thailand so we would not have to worry about or deal with that attitude you speak of. That is the whole point. Now there are hookers acting that way!

[QUOTE=Western787; 1566472]You are dreaming if you don't think even "polite and friendly" 50 year old males hitting on 25 year old hotties in (regular non P4P) western clubs don't get treated rudely (whether eyerolling or ignoring) on a fairly regular basis simply because of their age, and the reason is simple. Hotties generally don't want a guy their father's age.

Now as for Thermae, most of the girls shooting Farangs down over and over again, are at least polite in a cursory way at least.[/QUOTE]Without being rude we are still paying working girls, without making it a big deal, we are the customers and they are the providers, without arrogance I think mutual respect is necessary from both parties.

I do not expect they go with anyone approaching them just because he pays, but a polite "thanks but no thanks" can be given by the girl without costing her an arm and a leg.

There are hundreds of polite excuses they can come with, if they want.

Just as much as creative they are sometime in cheating customers with "have to go back as my roommate lost the keys","you are too big and I can't get it","I have my period what about a HJ (once in the room)" etc.

[QUOTE=BionicMan; 1566527]Without being rude we are still paying working girls, without making it a big deal, we are the customers and they are the providers, without arrogance I think mutual respect is necessary from both parties.

I do not expect they go with anyone approaching them just because he pays, but a polite "thanks but no thanks" can be given by the girl without costing her an arm and a leg.

There are hundreds of polite excuses they can come with, if they want.

Just as much as creative they are sometime in cheating customers with "have to go back as my roommate lost the keys","you are too big and I can't get it","I have my period what about a HJ (once in the room)" etc.[/QUOTE]Very well stated.