Angeles City

[QUOTE=Sammon;2754237]There were buses before from two companies doing door to door transport. But combination of low ridership and management issues shut them down.

Yes it is a pain in the neck especially if you have luggage. Taxi is too expensive for approx 30 km. Public Buses are cheap but they only depart from selected places. Genesis airport bus charges around 200 pesos and drops off at the mall. Still a trike is needed. No escaping from trike mafia.[/QUOTE]There's a Blue Taxi bay near the main SM entrance. Flagfall is like P40. Additionally there are often Blue Taxis cruising past the dropoff point at the SM side entrance.

Have been in town for a while now, my last stay was in May of this year. When it comes to AC now vs the golden years, it's of course nothing to write home about. That said, I have to admit that especially the Walking Street bars are now stocked with enough cuties to go around. My impression is that there has been an improvement over the last few months, with new girls entering into the trade. If you don't mind the high airfare and the P 3500-5000 barfines, a great time can certainly be had. AC is far from over and done.

[QUOTE=PuteNut;2753581] I found the DJ / toastmaster pretty annoying. This event is currently held only on the third Sunday of every month, so plan accordingly.[/QUOTE]I hate that guys voice too. He tries to mimic a WWE announcer, we are not getting ready to rumble. Most of the time I just don't understand what he's saying.

He tries to create a vibe like its a full blown foam party in Vegas. But jokes apart, although its a very old fashioned pool party its a good option to break the monotony created by the lack of daily activities in AC. Years ago even Wild Orchard Resort organized such parties which were better than Scorebirds.

[QUOTE=Sock111;2754307]I hate that guys voice too. He tries to mimic a WWE announcer, we are not getting ready to rumble. Most of the time I just don't understand what he's saying.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Psriches;2752968]Did you ever make it to Subic? How did you get there?[/QUOTE]No I didn't go in the end and I was able to cancel the CP Reef hotel free of charge. You could take a car, or public bus from Dau terminal, Victory Liner I think.

[QUOTE=Docwiltro;2754204]I am taking the Rabbit bus from Manila to AC and the Blue Taxi to my hotel, and the Victory Liner from AC to Olongopo and a trike to my Barretto hotel. Obviously, someone needs to start up a minibus service to AC and Subic; I hear a lot of comments on the difficulty to getting around without spending major pesos getting from one locale to another.[/QUOTE]A couple of Australian pirates did run a Monger Express from Manila to AC and then AC to Subic, but it collapsed during the pandemic. I think tight ass mongers also baulked at the cost - 500 pesos. Mongers preferred the Victory Liner service from Pasay for 180 pesos. This was better than cramming into a Toyota mini bus provided by the pirates. There was air conditioning, more leg room, free WiFi and they could watch Korean drama on the screen at 140 db volume. They could also buy tasty snacks off the cute female street vendors along the way.

Thought I'd posted this but can't see it here! Wednesday I went to SM Clark for brunch at the French Bakery cafe, and walking back to town I spotted a really cute little thing who replied with a lovely smile when I said Hi. She agreed to come back to my hotel (Envy Suites) to watch a movie, and wanted to walk even though we were close to Margerita Station. This was around 2 pm, and she stayed till around 11 the next morning. She had a stunning body and was great in bed too. We went to One Euphoria for dinner which was pretty good on the rooftop restaurant. She sometimes works in a KTV in Korea Town but not that night fortunately. She was so good I got her back Thursday night too. She asked 5 k each time and I was happy at that. Friday afternoon I had a little freelancer I met outside Phillies who was great fun and even managed to wet my bed while I was licking her and fingering her ass, great fun. 2 k plus tip for that one, Jessicabel. Overnight I got back the FL I did on Monday. She's a real performer, great bb sex, deep throat BJ and let me have her ass cherry too. 8 pm till 8 am, another 5 k well spent. Saturday afternoon I walked up to the little hole in the wall bar near boomerang Hotel and found there are now 3 little bars there offering BJ and FS on the premises. They were a bit older, but when I said I preferred younger models they managed to find a 19 year old in 5 minutes! I said ID go back later when it was cooler. I then.

Decided to have a beer in the Raymond Street Hole in the wall bar. Needless to say I was soon joined by a young lady who started giving a HJ as I bought her a drink. She offered a BJ in the back room or my nearby hotel. Hotel it was so off we went. Once again BBFS was also on the menu and all in for 1500. I gave her 500 tip. Later had a visit from my regular from earlier visits, and after that I went to check out the bar scene. Interestingly some bars seem to have girls with street clothes, others in their underwear at best. 123 was underwear so had a beer and LD in there with another young lady trying to give me a HJ. They will lap dance you too, and charge 5 k for BFLT. Didn't take that offer but found a tiny FL in the street, she was tiny and tightest pussy I ever had, lovely girl called Marsha. Final day Sunday and feeling a bit shagged out, so quiet day, just finished off with my a level girl from Friday night. Another solid performance from her finished off my week in AC quite nicely. Monday morning off to Makati via air conditioned Genesis bus from SM Clark to Manila airport, cost is 385 php to T3 and took just 2 hours non stop. There's a timetable at the stop at SM Clark main entrance by the French Bakery. Overnight in Makati is reported in that thread, my last night on this trip.

I started with one, and after she insisted, I ended up taking 3 of my regulars with me to Boracay, in an upcoming trip.

Of course I paid for the airfare, hotel and whatever will costs us there, which adds up to a small fortune.

Now I found out that the girls are expecting me to pay them daily equivalents of the would be bar fine for the duration of the trip.

Once again the Philippines never cease to amaze me. I was under the impression that I'm doing a huge favor for them, and it seems that's not the case.

Anyway, the airfare is non refundable, and the hotel I need it even if I'm by myself, therefore I told them that that's not going to happen, and if they want to come without pay, they are welcome, if not, maybe I'll see them when I'm back. It looks like they are coming anyway, even without pay.

Did anybody else go thru something similar? Is that their typical mentality, to squeeze you even when you're super nice to them?

P.S. Last time I was in Boracay (2019), despite all the warnings about the total lack of local talent, I managed to find a mamasan with some very pretty girls.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2754746]I started with one, and after she insisted, I ended up taking 3 of my regulars with me to Boracay, in an upcoming trip.

Of course I paid for the airfare, hotel and whatever will costs us there, which adds up to a small fortune.

Now I found out that the girls are expecting me to pay them daily equivalents of the would be bar fine for the duration of the trip.

Once again the Philippines never cease to amaze me. I was under the impression that I'm doing a huge favor for them, and it seems that's not the case.

Anyway, the airfare is non refundable, and the hotel I need it even if I'm by myself, therefore I told them that that's not going to happen, and if they want to come without pay, they are welcome, if not, maybe I'll see them when I'm back. It looks like they are coming anyway, even without pay.

Did anybody else go thru something similar? Is that their typical mentality, to squeeze you even when you're super nice to them?

P.S. Last time I was in Boracay (2019), despite all the warnings about the total lack of local talent, I managed to find a mamasan with some very pretty girls.[/QUOTE]Typically you would pay them for their days. It is some what negotiable but They have rent to pay and their families to feed. This is something everyone should have an agreement on upfront. Customary for the AC girls to understand and expect that they would get some pay for the days.

Airfare and hotels are relatively cheaper now. Small fortune? If you cant swing the big one and pay then don't.

You arent doing them any favors by taking them away from their earnings. AC is PnP not a dating site. Girls are there to make money to feed their families.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2754746]I started with one, and after she insisted, I ended up taking 3 of my regulars with me to Boracay, in an upcoming trip.

Of course I paid for the airfare, hotel and whatever will costs us there, which adds up to a small fortune.

Now I found out that the girls are expecting me to pay them daily equivalents of the would be bar fine for the duration of the trip.

Once again the Philippines never cease to amaze me. I was under the impression that I'm doing a huge favor for them, and it seems that's not the case.

Anyway, the airfare is non refundable, and the hotel I need it even if I'm by myself, therefore I told them that that's not going to happen, and if they want to come without pay, they are welcome, if not, maybe I'll see them when I'm back. It looks like they are coming anyway, even without pay.

Did anybody else go thru something similar? Is that their typical mentality, to squeeze you even when you're super nice to them?

P.S. Last time I was in Boracay (2019), despite all the warnings about the total lack of local talent, I managed to find a mamasan with some very pretty girls.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, you have been played. Girls roping in numerous friends for extra barfines, drinks, extras etc is a sure sign. Sounds like it cost you a few bucks to learn the lesson but it probably saved you money in the long run. In Bora, all would have needed bikinis, phone load, nice meals, the list would have gone on forever.

Bargirls can be taken out of the bar but the details need to be sorted out upfront. Barfines, tips, spending money all need to be known before committing to hotels, airfares etc. Girls will commonly tell the bars that they are going home, so no barfines will be payable but they do expect some compensation. Remember girls can't eat air-conditioning.

I'd agree that, all in, travelling with a bargirl very rarely works out cheaper than purchasing locally, even if there is a tourist tax.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;1972066]OK, so the trip above is now finished. Her attitude improved over the second week but still wasn't all that I had hoped for....[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2754864]Typically you would pay them for their days. It is some what negotiable but They have rent to pay and their families to feed. This is something everyone should have an agreement on upfront. Customary for the AC girls to understand and expect that they would get some pay for the days.

Airfare and hotels are relatively cheaper now. Small fortune? If you cant swing the big one and pay then don't.

You arent doing them any favors by taking them away from their earnings. AC is PnP not a dating site. Girls are there to make money to feed their families.[/QUOTE]I will explain the small fortune thing, and the favor:

Boracay is nice, but not my first choice, I'd rather explore a new place, (like valencia, where everybody seems to move to) I'll go there because the girls want to visit the place, so is not like I want to go there and I need company, I'm doing it for them.

One needs a babysitter at 1 k / day = 5 k.

I told them I will give them each 1 k / day to make up for lost wages, not barfines = 15 k.

Airfare was total = 24 k.

Hotel = 20 k.

Restaurants and bars will be probably another 20 k / day = 100 k.

As you can see it adds up pretty fast to about $2500 which is kind of a small fortune for 5 days in philippines.

Anyway, I've been visiting angeles city for over a decade now (twice a year), and this year is the first time when I was doing repeats, and it looks like nothing good is coming out of it. I must revert to the old ways of doing it. With that money you can bang at least 20 different chicks including lady drinks, not only 3.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2754746]
Did anybody else go thru something similar? Is that their typical mentality, to squeeze you even when you're super nice to them?[/QUOTE]When I was negotiating with two girls to take them on a trip away, it was two different negotiations. One works as a waitress at Viking. She was hard on the negotiation expecting a full compensation on her 10 days away. The other girl was a Lollipop casual door girl (and free lancer). She was much easier and we settled on a cash payment to her to cover her pre-travel purchases, some clothes and bikini, her travel to / from NAIA. I covered airfare, meals, hotels etc while we were away. I gave up on the waitress and settled for the doorgirl.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2754746]I started with one, and after she insisted, I ended up taking 3 of my regulars with me to Boracay, in an upcoming trip.

Of course I paid for the airfare, hotel and whatever will costs us there, which adds up to a small fortune.

Now I found out that the girls are expecting me to pay them daily equivalents of the would be bar fine for the duration of the trip.

Once again the Philippines never cease to amaze me. I was under the impression that I'm doing a huge favor for them, and it seems that's not the case.

Anyway, the airfare is non refundable, and the hotel I need it even if I'm by myself, therefore I told them that that's not going to happen, and if they want to come without pay, they are welcome, if not, maybe I'll see them when I'm back. It looks like they are coming anyway, even without pay.

Did anybody else go thru something similar? Is that their typical mentality, to squeeze you even when you're super nice to them?

P.S. Last time I was in Boracay (2019), despite all the warnings about the total lack of local talent, I managed to find a mamasan with some very pretty girls.[/QUOTE]It is never a good idea to take bargirls on vacation. There is a reason why they are in Angeles and doing what they are doing. Their shelf life is short and they know it. They need to make as much money as possible in that short time. Ever see why they fight over each other when 20 pesos bills are raining down on them? They are least bit interested in beach vacation. Firstly they want less sun than more sun. Whole of Philippines is a beach location. These girls will only go if the price is right. What are are going to do with three girls? One on each arm and one holding your dick?

I have taken non bargirls on vacation. For them it is no different staying in town. They are happy just staying inside the room and fuck on demand. Watersports? Many cannot swim and afraid of water. Cannot fuck under the water because of heavy pollution and plenty of squiggly things in water and you do not want to take off your shorts. By 9 in the morning it is hot as hell. Girls will never go out and do touristy things compared to American girls. Food wise they only eat Philippine dishes. That too in small portions. One girl really liked the day trip to Bohol from cebu. We had a good time hiring a private car. Bought her few trinkets. I do not take any girl on beach vacations. Better stay in town. My routine is after breakfast I go for massage leaving the girl in the room. Bring her some lunch on the way back. Fuck and take a nap. In the evening if the girl wants to go out we go out to a nice restaurant. Some do and some don't. Then I bring the same take out food for them. You will be sorry if you take them on a beach vacation for number of days. Long time ago I took two very pretty girls to beach near Subic. Trike, bus, trike and we were there. Eat and stay in shade looking at the water. Later only thing they enjoyed is when I took them on jet ski.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2754914]I will explain the small fortune thing, and the favor:

Boracay is nice, but not my first choice, I'd rather explore a new place, (like valencia, where everybody seems to move to) I'll go there because the girls want to visit the place, so is not like I want to go there and I need company, I'm doing it for them.

One needs a babysitter at 1 k / day = 5 k.

I told them I will give them each 1 k / day to make up for lost wages, not barfines = 15 k.

Airfare was total = 24 k.

Hotel = 20 k.

Restaurants and bars will be probably another 20 k / day = 100 k.

As you can see it adds up pretty fast to about $2500 which is kind of a small fortune for 5 days in philippines.

Anyway, I've been visiting angeles city for over a decade now (twice a year), and this year is the first time when I was doing repeats, and it looks like nothing good is coming out of it. I must revert to the old ways of doing it. With that money you can bang at least 20 different chicks including lady drinks, not only 3.[/QUOTE]If you are really doing it just for them then just straight out give them the money. All of it otherwise I just don't see you just doing it for just them. Or half of it and use the other half for some new pussy.

Be a cheerful giver.

Sailor Jack is walking back from the gym near Checkpoint and minding his own business like always. Sailor Jack spots Racer1. Racer1 was a door girl at a bar out on Perimeter. Although Racer1 was fully clothed, it was clear how hot she was. I took Racer1 for a boss's girl. Sailor Jack is in his sweaty gym clothes and SJ did not have his phone. Sailor Jack chatted up Racer1 and she is indeed interested. Sailor Jack asks Racer1 for her number, which SJ memorizes instantly after she says it just one time. Racer1 does not think Sailor Jack will remember her number or bother to text her. Of course, Sailor Jack texts Racer1 just as soon as SJ gets back to his room.

Fast forward 6 months. Sailor Jack sees Racer1 3-4 times per month. She is 20 and from Samar. Racer1 did tell me more about herself but none of that information ever matched what she told me the times before so there is no reason to repeat any of it here.

Racer1 is a true sexual athlete. A real hard fucking bargirl pro at 20. Racer1 will only do short time which is fine with Sailor Jack. And it is always WBTYM sex. Some damn fine WBTYM sex to be sure. Sailor Jack really enjoys the impromptu hide the salami short times. And Sailor Jack becomes amused by Racer1's bola bola stories about who she is, where she is from, and other things going on in her life. None of it ever matched what she told Sailor Jack before. Sailor Jack wonders if she thinks SJ is too stupid to remember what she said before. Then Sailor Jack begins to think Racer1 actually believes what she is telling SJ. Why the hell am I analyzing this anyway? Just bend her over and pound some sense into her. Yeh, now that sure makes good sense to Sailor Jack.

Later on, in a few of our last sessions, Racer1 was more erratic talking than usual. Sailor Jack thought she might be on drugs or more than a little crazy. Alas, Sailor Jack stopped seeing Racer1 altogether.

Related topic; In this same time period Sailor Jack has been chatting up and flirting a waitress (Sis1) at his favorite breakfast restaurant. Sis1 is a regular Filipina, kinda cute, and she has a really hot body. This has progressed to Sis1 giving Sailor Jack a passionate hug and kiss each morning in the breakfast room and in front of fellow Mongers. Well, such a nice way to start the day. Sailor Jack credits this to his prodigious animal magnetism and to the fact that by breakfast time Sailor Jack is covered head to toe with pussy pheromones from the night before and with sex juice from just before coming down to breakfast.

Sailor Jack is positioning Sis1 for the kill when she suddenly goes cold. After a couple of days of the cold shoulder Sailor Jack finds out why.

Sis1; "Do you know a girl named Racer1 ?

Sailor Jack; "Um. Uh. Yes. ".

Sis1; "Racer1 is my sister. ".

Sailor Jack; "Oh. ".

Sis1 apparently now thinks that Sailor Jack is a hard core butterfly monger who bangs every single Filipina he can manage to get his joystick into. Okay, well maybe that is true.