Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=Jgm005;1798383]If it is a Sunday carvery one is looking for the Sportmans bar on Soi 13 is better than Robin's Nest. Obviously a personal opinion.[/QUOTE]I've eaten at the Sportsman, but haven't tried the Sunday carvery, the food appeared similar to Pigs and Whistle on soi 7/8, not bad at all. I prefer the american brek at Robin's (not the carvery).

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1798319]Here is a good map of Soi 6 that lays out the bars and their LB situation.
[/QUOTE]The other forum keeps updating this map based on newer inputs from members, so quite helpful, thanks for posting it here. Although when you enlarge the thumbnail, the names of the bars aren't very clear.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1798180]...The only half decent one that I have seen was at the Sunshine Hotel on Soi 8 when I first started going to Pattaya. I used to stay there and it was free with the room. [/QUOTE]I stopped breakfast at Sunshine too after they started charging for it. But I found Sailor Bar on Soi 8 to be an excellent alternative. It is not a buffet but you can get what you want there and the prices are very reasonable. Did I mention they make a mean Long Island Ice Tea?

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1798540]

As for my freebie girl, I hope you understand she isn't being named unless I figure out she's a scam.[/QUOTE]Of course! I am just curious where and how you met her.

[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1798599]The other forum keeps updating this map based on newer inputs from members, so quite helpful, thanks for posting it here. Although when you enlarge the thumbnail, the names of the bars aren't very clear.[/QUOTE]Yeah it's too bad the names aren't easier to read. AO, can you pm me the url to the updated map please. Thank you.

I know I've only been here 4 days but I've walked through Soi 7 and soi 8 as well as the Beach Road FL's several times throughout the night and although there are plenty of providers very few were appealing to me. What is prime time for Beach Road FL's?

As I was on a baht bus going along Beach road there was something going on near soi 7 or 8. All I heard was police on a PA speaker saying something like 'we want to make Pattaya as safe as possible for tourists'. The police also walked en masse through Walking Street last night with news crews taking videos and pictures. I guess this is the fallout of the Walking Street murder the other night.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1798677]I know I've only been here 4 days but I've walked through Soi 7 and soi 8 as well as the Beach Road FL's several times throughout the night and although there are plenty of providers very few were appealing to me. What is prime time for Beach Road FL's?

As I was on a baht bus going along Beach road there was something going on near soi 7 or 8. All I heard was police on a PA speaker saying something like 'we want to make Pattaya as safe as possible for tourists'. The police also walked en masse through Walking Street last night with news crews taking videos and pictures. I guess this is the fallout of the Walking Street murder the other night.[/QUOTE]News reports said that this is done yearly as a show of force prior to high season.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1798674]Yeah it's too bad the names aren't easier to read. AO, can you pm me the url to the updated map please. Thank you.[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.pattaya-addicts.com/forum/topic/86586-soi-6-bar-hopping-map/page-12[/URL]

Here it goes. You need to register on the site to access it. A lot of great info there too.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1798694][URL]http://www.pattaya-addicts.com/forum/topic/86586-soi-6-bar-hopping-map/page-12[/URL]

Here it goes. You need to register on the site to access it. A lot of great info there too.[/QUOTE]BB may already have registered, I had told him to check it a month or so back. I hope the link that Uncle V shared works, because I am not sure I remember my password (whole process of re-setting it now), to be able to retrieve the map!

Anyone have experience getting extras with the massage girls of the Privi suites (on 2nd Road where Baywalk Residence and Aya Boutique hotel are)? There's about 15 of them there and a couple I really like. If so I should have stayed at Privi Suites to have to come up to my room.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1798677]I know I've only been here 4 days but [/QUOTE]You are still asking an extraordinary amount of baby questions. Well I have a question for you; have you gotten laid yet since you arrived in LOS? I am sorry if this sounds disrespectful, but I think it is a valid question because so far in your scant reports it appears not. Let me summarize and PLEASE TELL US WHERE I AM WRONG.

1st night you are out an about until 5am. You say you picked up a "freebee" at one point in the evening, but then fail to report, EVEN AFTER BEING ASKED TO DO SO, on any details like where you met her or under what circumstances. You do report the freebie was denied entry at your hotel. Although I personally would have done something about it, hint: TIP the security guard, OK, your loss not mine. But then instead of heading to a ST hotel you apparently let the girl go and head back out into the night winding up at Marine disco at around 5am complaining about the quality of girls there. Uhm!

Another night you report heading to Windmill and am I getting this right; you hang out there fooling around with a girl or girls for a long, long time, but again you apparently do not barfine her or anyone else that night. Am I missing something? Look it is your trip, DO WHAT YOU LIKE! It is just that I find it mighty curious your lack of reporting on anything close to an actual boom boom and your never ending small questions. For example, you say came across a place with some attractive girls hanging out outside. Instead of asking about the place; how about going in, taking a girl upstairs, find out for yourself first hand what is going on, and post a report on your adventure. That's what travel is all about; exploring and trying new things.

Sorry lord natty. I will stop reviewing my stuff for the next 3 weeks. Guys who want to pm me and trade info please feel free to do so.

Don't be sorry. It's your trip. Whatever turns you on.

[QUOTE=Banana Boi;1798802] I will stop reviewing my stuff for the next 3 weeks. Guys who want to pm me and trade info please feel free to do so.[/QUOTE]

And don't try to lay a bullshit guilt trip on me. Boo Hoo Hoo. I am not the reason for your lack of reporting. If you find me offensive and boorish then by all means put me on ignore. But so far I fail to see any significant contribution to the Thai forum on your part. It is 95% baby questions with scant informational content on your part. Other board members who have responded to your questions have provided the content. I might be wrong about you being a friendly troll. A couple of real posts from you would demonstrate this. But in the meantime you still have not answered my simple question: Have you gotten your dick wet yet in Pattaya?

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1798805]Don't be sorry. It's your trip. Whatever turns you on.



And don't try to lay a bullshit guilt trip on me. Boo Hoo Hoo. I am not the reason for your lack of reporting. If you find me offensive and boorish then by all means put me on ignore. But so far I fail to see any significant contribution to the Thai forum on your part. It is 95% baby questions with scant informational content on your part. Other board members who have responded to your questions have provided the content. I might be wrong about you being a friendly troll. A couple of real posts from you would demonstrate this. But in the meantime you still have not answered my simple question: Have you gotten your dick wet yet in Pattaya?[/QUOTE]Natty dropping the hammer! 555.

Grasshopper, aka BB, you are not even close to getting the stone out of the master's hand. Time to go back to the Shaolin temple and meditate on where you have gone wrong.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1798901]Natty dropping the hammer! 555.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I am a real tough guy. LOL. But in truth, BB is only the 2nd BM I have called out personally since I became a ISG member. I just get a weird vibe from him. He asks and asks his small questions yet it does not really look to me like he pays much attention to the answers he receives. I generally just ignore him.

But when you queried him with the question, "What's the story with the freebie girl? Where did you meet her? Sounds like a fun story. " Which is certainly a fair and legitimate question, he responded by answering a different unasked strawman question: "As for my freebie girl, I hope you understand she isn't being named unless I figure out she's a scam. " So you responded with a gentle, "I am just curious where and how you met her," and we are still left waiting for BB's reply. UHM!

Now why is this question relevant? Because there could be real informational content here that might be of use to new visitors to Pattaya. Who knows? At the present all we do know is that a first time visitor to Pattaya on his first night in town hits a few bars and what not and then at some point in the night he hooks up with a girl who convinces him she is an amateur or "freebie" in the OP's words. Later we are to understand that this "freebie" is denied access to the OP's hotel room by hotel security.

So what are we supposed to make of this bare set of information? It might be exactly as stated by the OP. But what are the odds of that? Rather small I think. Or maybe the girl was not a "freebie" and there was some kind of honest communication gap between the two which seems to me to be a much more likely scenario. Or maybe a con was going on and maybe that is why the hotel security denied the girl access to the OP's room. WHO knows? That's why it would be nice if we had more information about this incident like where they met, what happened between them during the 1st hour of conversation, and at what point did she present herself to the OP as an amateur not interested in his money.

So let's hear the whole story BB. Inquiring minds want to know so we can then offer our insights and some informed opinions of what actually went down. And by the way BB, I don't care what you like to do or not do with girls, guys, or ladyboys. As John Lennon said, "Whatever gets you through the night is all right" as long as it is between consenting adults and nobody is physically or mentally hurt.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1798901]Natty dropping the hammer! 555.

Grasshopper, aka BB, you are not even close to getting the stone out of the master's hand. Time to go back to the Shaolin temple and meditate on where you have gone wrong.[/QUOTE]Hey, leave the Shaoln out of this, you talking about my relatives. From the sound of things they might be getting more pussy than this guy?

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1799030]Hey, leave the Shaoln out of this, you talking about my relatives. From the sound of things they might be getting more pussy than this guy?[/QUOTE]LMAO! Too good LBM.

I for one enjoy reading Banana Boi's "live-blogging"-style reporting. It's nice to read things from a Newbie perspective and to read the helpful answers.

What is really annoying is all the assholes who are constantly criticizing him and his sharing of information simply because his questions and reporting don't meet some people's so-called criteria for posting here.

The constant criticizing only serves to inhibit the sharing of information and drive readers away. If you don't like reading Banana Boi's post, then by damn, don't read them. Or add him to your ignore list. It's super easy. Just click on his name, then click on "view profile," then click on "add to ignore list. " Very simple. Instead of merely not reading his posts or adding him to your ignore list, no, instead, you guys go to all this trouble to point out all the ways his reporting doesn't live up to your so-called posting standards.

It doesn't surprise me that this thread lacks a lot of truly useful information with all the negativity here.

Next time, think about spreading good energy. For people who are living somewhere with so much pussy, some of you guys sure seem to be wound up pretty tight.

Relax a little!

If anyone should be uptight and wound up, it ought to be me since I'm stuck in USA sex prison!

At ultra happy, how much useful information are you looking for? There are over 20000 bars in pattaya, you land and just start walking. This board gives you ideas on hotels, what areas to hit and more if you add research to your reading. It can't hold your hand when you're on the ground.

I'm planning my next trip to Asia. I was already in Bangkok. Should I go to Bangkok again or Pattaya? Only would have time for one of the cities. What one is better and why?

I didn't go to many places in Bangkok (only one or two) since it was my first time in Asia and I wanted to get acquainted with it first. Do the bars in BKK or Pattaya allow you to go in for free and look at the girls to see if you like them first? What are some good questions to ask at the door to make sure the place isn't a scam?

Problem with picking up a girl from WS and needing to get to your hotel is having to grab two motorbikes. One reason why I like the tuktuks of Bangkok, your girl is next to you.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1799114]Problem with picking up a girl from WS and needing to get to your hotel is having to grab two motorbikes. One reason why I like the tuktuks of Bangkok, your girl is next to you.[/QUOTE]They always let me take one moto with the girl. Never had them insist on 2. And I am not a small guy.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1799127]They always let me take one moto with the girl. Never had them insist on 2. And I am not a small guy.[/QUOTE]Really? I'm 6'6" 265 lbs, think we'd be doing a wheelie back to the hotel. But the Evergreen is very close to WS, probably could manage. But wouldn't two people on one bike cost 40?

[QUOTE=Breadman;1799133]Really? I'm 6'6" 265 lbs, think we'd be doing a wheelie back to the hotel. But the Evergreen is very close to WS, probably could manage. But wouldn't two people on one bike cost 40?[/QUOTE]Usually same price. They 2 x the price for 2 on a bike so you are better off taking 2 motorbike taxis.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1799114]Problem with picking up a girl from WS and needing to get to your hotel is having to grab two motorbikes. One reason why I like the tuktuks of Bangkok, your girl is next to you.[/QUOTE]Unless your hotel is way out of the way like the darkside, from W. S. All you got to do is exit from Marine Seafood, P. 72 (across from Lucifers), Soi Diamond (Moon Go Go) up to 2nd Road and wave down a Songthaw for 10 baht. There are Songthaw outside of Marine seafood and Soi Diamond waiting for private hire again unless your place is out of the tourist spot should run you around 150 baht for a private ride.

There is nothing wrong with taking a Songthaw. It is a very convenient form of public transportation. I take them all the time. But when I am with a girl and staying at the Evergreen or some other hotel not quite on the Songthaw's route, I prefer a motor cycle taxi's door to door service. I am 5'10" and weigh 180 lbs so I never had a problem with a girl and myself riding on the back of a motorcycle taxi. Some drivers do try to take advantage of the situation and ask for more money than they should. I just walk away and talk to the next driver. I do not recall ever paying more than 80 bhat for transportation back to my hotel with a girl.

The same kind of nonsense occurs in BKK directly in front of Soi Cowboy on Soi 23. Some greedy taxi drivers ask for crazy set fares and will refuse to turn on their meter. Just walk a half a block down the soi and flag a passing taxi. The honest drivers always turn on their meters and the fare rarely exceeds 60 bhat back to my hotel. Some of the greedy taxi drivers will ask for 150bt fixed fare. I think it is wrong to do business with them. Walk a half a block and reward the honest drivers with your commerce. And I always tip the honest ones.

Boys, I don't much like motos but on my last visit I overcame my fear of them, I had a friend had a bad accident, and if you're worrying about the price of a moto in Pattaya you're in the wrong place and should just stay home and have a wank! Pedro.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1799311]..... I think it is wrong to do business with them. Walk a half a block and reward the honest drivers with your commerce. And I always tip the honest ones.[/QUOTE]Well said Natty. Exactly what I do too. Takers exist because Givers encourage them. Cut the supply lines and watch things fall into place.

I was hanging out all day with my cousin here in the USA and we were hitting the different free restaurants for us military veterans. He told me of a time when fucked a Russian girl in Pattaya. Previously I had thought that the girls in those show clubs did not go with punters. He said that he met her on Walking Street after he had left a disco. She got on his bike with him and went to the room without discussing anything.

When they got to the room she said the price was 5000 baht (same price that I have heard from the Colombians that come to Pattaya to reset their Chinese visas). He said are you crazy. The going rate is 1000 baht. She looked at him like he was crazy and asked if he knew how much money she made in the Russian club. He said he didn't care about that. She said that she should charge him 2000 baht for even leaving with him. He said he ended up talking her down to 3500 baht since she was already in the room with him.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1799467]I was hanging out all day with my cousin here in the USA and we were hitting the different free restaurants for us military veterans. He told me of a time when fucked a Russian girl in Pattaya. Previously I had thought that the girls in those show clubs did not go with punters. He said that he met her on Walking Street after he had left a disco. She got on his bike with him and went to the room without discussing anything.

When they got to the room she said the price was 5000 baht (same price that I have heard from the Colombians that come to Pattaya to reset their Chinese visas). He said are you crazy. The going rate is 1000 baht. She looked at him like he was crazy and asked if he knew how much money she made in the Russian club. He said he didn't care about that. She said that she should charge him 2000 baht for even leaving with him. He said he ended up talking her down to 3500 baht since she was already in the room with him.[/QUOTE]Good story. Seems to me like he got what he deserved.

I've never been overseas. I monger mostly in the Detroit area. I've read about Thailand, watched youtube videos, and read 13 pages of posts here. I notice a lot of the go-go dancers are dressed in a bikini. I've read that sometimes they get nude. But what I want to know is are there places where the girls get naked, and let you perform DATY while they're on stage? I'm kind of an exhibitionist. Also, do the girls in the bars ever give head out in the open?

Thanks everyone.

[QUOTE=Pussylicker2;1799925]I've never been overseas. I monger mostly in the Detroit area. I've read about Thailand, watched youtube videos, and read 13 pages of posts here. I notice a lot of the go-go dancers are dressed in a bikini. I've read that sometimes they get nude. But what I want to know is are there places where the girls get naked, and let you perform DATY while they're on stage? I'm kind of an exhibitionist. Also, do the girls in the bars ever give head out in the open?

Thanks everyone.[/QUOTE]Yes there are places you can have both.

[QUOTE=TellAll;1799984]Yes there are places you can have both.[/QUOTE]DATY and head in the open? Enlighten me please. Just around a couple of months ago there was a furore over a girl giving a BJ in a night club that was caught on cameras. I know most GoGos allow some touching and playing, but DATY & head in the open, I am clueless. I would love to learn more here.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1800121]DATY and head in the open? Enlighten me please. Just around a couple of months ago there was a furore over a girl giving a BJ in a night club that was caught on cameras. I know most GoGos allow some touching and playing, but DATY & head in the open, I am clueless. I would love to learn more here.[/QUOTE]La Poste I'm sure you can do both. In Windmill I have seen plenty of guys do DATY as well as the old X-Zone. I reported maybe back in July that me and my wingman were getting free head out in the open at a bar on Soi 6. Big difference between a disco and those other places.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1800176]La Poste I'm sure you can do both. In Windmill I have seen plenty of guys do DATY as well as the old X-Zone. I reported maybe back in July that me and my wingman were getting free head out in the open at a bar on Soi 6. Big difference between a disco and those other places.[/QUOTE]I had reported on Bar de La Poste myself a few months ago. One has to go behind a curtain to get head. In the open the girl do get naked and you can play with them titties or stick a finger or two in the pussy, but DATY? I don't think so.

Likewise in Soi 6 I have always been led behind a curtain (sometimes a beaded one that offers little privacy. My Friend You).

I have not been to Windmill, as I am, self-admittedly, not much of a GoGo guy. I will visit this place soon and experience this too. Thanks Mr E.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1800121]DATY and head in the open? [/QUOTE]I've seen guys DATY girls in gogo's that have a stage where naked girls shower and / or play with eachother. And there are quite a few gogo's that have that kind of stage.

And I've seen guys getting a BBBJ out in the open in the Windmill, Sugarbaby and Baby Dolls Agogo.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1800121]DATY and head in the open? Enlighten me please. Just around a couple of months ago there was a furore over a girl giving a BJ in a night club that was caught on cameras. I know most GoGos allow some touching and playing, but DATY & head in the open, I am clueless. I would love to learn more here.[/QUOTE]Yes DATY is often seen at the Windmill and blow jobs as well. Same at a number of soi 6 bars.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;1800354]And I've seen guys getting a BBBJ out in the open in the Windmill, Sugarbaby and Baby Dolls Agogo.[/QUOTE]How much the tip for this "service"?

[QUOTE=LaoMan;1800356]Yes DATY is often seen at the Windmill and blow jobs as well. Same at a number of soi 6 bars.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mogwai;1800354]I've seen guys DATY girls in gogo's that have a stage where naked girls shower and / or play with each other. And there are quite a few gogo's that have that kind of stage.

And I've seen guys getting a BBBJ out in the open in the Windmill, Sugarbaby and Baby Dolls Agogo.[/QUOTE]Thanks Mogwai & LaoMan. These GoGos are definitely on my list of "to do" bars when I visit next. Any guidance on prices?

My guess is 1000 - 1500 THB.

[QUOTE=ChristianG;1800485]How much the tip for this "service"?[/QUOTE]100 baht. It is 99% of the time not going to be to completion (unless the guy just finishes really fast). It is just going to be a sampler. But truth of the matter is that you do not just walk in to a gogo and sit down and some chick starts slobbing on your knob. It usually happens with a chick who a guy has been sitting with for a while and has bought numerous drinks for. For the DATY, any random guy can walk up to the stage and do that. It usually happens on one of the side stages where the girls are performing some kind of solo or doubles act.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1800176]La Poste I'm sure you can do both. In Windmill I have seen plenty of guys do DATY as well as the old X-Zone. I reported maybe back in July that me and my wingman were getting free head out in the open at a bar on Soi 6. Big difference between a disco and those other places.[/QUOTE]Can also had Club Mistys to the list. In September for the price of a lady drink I stuck ice cubes up a girls pussy and then DATY.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1799467]
When they got to the room she said the price was 5000 baht (same price that I have heard from the Colombians that come to Pattaya to reset their Chinese visas). He said are you crazy. The going rate is 1000 baht. She looked at him like he was crazy and asked if he knew how much money she made in the Russian club. He said he didn't care about that. She said that she should charge him 2000 baht for even leaving with him. He said he ended up talking her down to 3500 baht since she was already in the room with him.[/QUOTE]I did a currency conversion and that figure she agreed to is probably not random. 3500 is just shy of $100 at the currency market rates. For the regular guy, who doesn't get that favorable rate, that conversion would likely be over a $100 - maybe closer to 100 Euros? I just got back from Berlin, and have a good grasp on what a Russian girl gets for an hour of love. Around 100 Euros (or less) in the bordellos or as an independent. So she is wanting to be compensated on a West European pay scale. In my travels in the former Soviet States, I never had to P4 P with any Russian girls. Women in the former Soviet Union are not able to use their tw*t as a precious commodity as in other nations. And with the average monthly Russian wage down to around $500 (food taking up half of the average Russian household's income), I wouldn't imagine she would be making much in any "Russian club". That's probably why she is in Thailand.

My thoughts? When on the ocean, eat the fish. In the Mideast, go for the lamb. In Argentina eat the beef. But don't bother ordering a pierogi until you are in Eastern Europe (if you catch my drift).

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1800714]And with the average monthly Russian wage down to around $500 (food taking up half of the average Russian household's income), I wouldn't imagine she would be making much in any "Russian club". That's probably why she is in Thailand.[/QUOTE]When I said Russian club, I meant the ones such as Galaxy that showcase the Russian girls on Walking Street in Pattaya; not clubs that are in Russia.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1800521]Thanks Mogwai & LaoMan. These GoGos are definitely on my list of "to do" bars when I visit next. Any guidance on prices?

My guess is 1000 - 1500 THB.[/QUOTE]The Go Go's on walking street. You should expect to pay more than that.

[QUOTE=TellAll;1800790]The Go Go's on walking street. You should expect to pay more than that.[/QUOTE]For DATY or a (sampler) BJ? I don't think so.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1800521]Thanks Mogwai & LaoMan. These GoGos are definitely on my list of "to do" bars when I visit next. Any guidance on prices?

My guess is 1000 - 1500 THB.[/QUOTE]That is way too high for DATY or a BJ. I've never done it but my guess is it's 'up to you' how much you tip. And it also depends on how many drinks you bought her and how much groping and kissing she allowed.

I would say anything between 100 and 500 is fine. 100 or 200 for DATY or a short sampler BJ and 500 for a BJ to completion.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;1800805]That is way too high for DATY or a BJ. I've never done it but my guess is it's 'up to you' how much you tip. And it also depends on how many drinks you bought her and how much groping and kissing she allowed.

I would say anything between 100 and 500 is fine. 100 or 200 for DATY or a short sampler BJ and 500 for a BJ to completion.[/QUOTE]I assumed he was talking about taking a girl ST or LT not just a sample in the club.

[QUOTE=TellAll;1800884]I assumed he was talking about taking a girl ST or LT not just a sample in the club.[/QUOTE]I was referring to a DATY / BJ in a GoGo but all inclusive damages. Drinks and tips for the sneak preview. Seems like I am on the ball.

Hello Fellow Mongers!

I was planning on making a trip to Thailand. I was wondering when was the best time to go for mongering activities.

Looking forward to the trip, that is in the initial stages of planning.

Any help of a noob would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks and Regards.

[QUOTE=Thetank85;1801078]Hello Fellow Mongers!

I was planning on making a trip to Thailand. I was wondering when was the best time to go for mongering activities.

Looking forward to the trip, that is in the initial stages of planning.

Any help of a noob would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks and Regards.[/QUOTE]Any time to visit Pattaya is good. Some believe the better time to visit is low season when the tourist crowds are less and you get a better pool to select from (albeit a slightly smaller pool) and some believe high season is better because of an increased number of girls. No matter when you plan your visit, Pattaya (and even BKK) will have lots to offer.

For how to go about planning your trip, please RTFF, lots of good recommendations by members on this board.

[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1801150]Any time to visit Pattaya is good. Some believe the better time to visit is low season when the tourist crowds are less and you get a better pool to select from (albeit a slightly smaller pool) and some believe high season is better because of an increased number of girls. No matter when you plan your visit, Pattaya (and even BKK) will have lots to offer.

For how to go about planning your trip, please RTFF, lots of good recommendations by members on this board.[/QUOTE]I am planning to go for about 1 week and wanted to cover BKK, Pattaya and maybe even Koh Samui.

Tentative plan is for Mid Feb.

[QUOTE=Thetank85;1801078]Hello Fellow Mongers!

I was planning on making a trip to Thailand. I was wondering when was the best time to go for mongering activities.

Looking forward to the trip, that is in the initial stages of planning.

Any help of a noob would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks and Regards.[/QUOTE]Even if suddenly 50% of all bargirls would disappear in Pattaya, there will still be more ladies can you can ever hope to make love to.

The small seasonal differences are nothing to get worried about.

The only time of year you might wish to avoid is around "Songkhran", the Thai New Year. Some girls will go to visit their family (but again, there will be more than enough still in Pattaya and Bangkok), but most that stay will just party and throw water around. That period of year will be bad for mongering, but fun for participating in the festivities.

Also, throughout the year there are various Buddhist holidays and then no alcohol can be served in the bars. Some bars will even close. But with some planning, this can be easily overcome: buy some beer the day before and stock your room's fridge and either get a freelancer from beach road or book a bargirl for LT already the day before. If her bar is closed, you will even save on the barfine!

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1801228]
The only time of year you might wish to avoid is around "Songkhran", the Thai New Year. Some girls will go to visit their family (but again, there will be more than enough still in Pattaya and Bangkok), but most that stay will just party and throw water around. That period of year will be bad for mongering, but fun for participating in the festivities.[/QUOTE]I agree 100% with you, Songkran is the worst time of the year for Pattaya. Been there once and never ever will go again in Pattaya for Songkran.

[QUOTE=Thetank85;1801212]I am planning to go for about 1 week and wanted to cover BKK, Pattaya and maybe even Koh Samui.[/QUOTE]You want visit too many place for 1 week only. Save your time, avoid Koh Samui and enjoy BKK and PTY.

[QUOTE=Thetank85;1801212]I am planning to go for about 1 week and wanted to cover BKK, Pattaya and maybe even Koh Samui.

Tentative plan is for Mid Feb.[/QUOTE]That would involve a lot of wasted travel time. Better to do it in 3 trips.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1800714]I did a currency conversion and that figure she agreed to is probably not random. 3500 is just shy of $100 at the currency market rates. For the regular guy, who doesn't get that favorable rate, that conversion would likely be over a $100 - maybe closer to 100 Euros? I just got back from Berlin, and have a good grasp on what a Russian girl gets for an hour of love. Around 100 Euros (or less) in the bordellos or as an independent. So she is wanting to be compensated on a West European pay scale. In my travels in the former Soviet States, I never had to P4 P with any Russian girls. Women in the former Soviet Union are not able to use their tw*t as a precious commodity as in other nations. And with the average monthly Russian wage down to around $500 (food taking up half of the average Russian household's income), I wouldn't imagine she would be making much in any "Russian club". That's probably why she is in Thailand.

My thoughts? When on the ocean, eat the fish. In the Mideast, go for the lamb. In Argentina eat the beef. But don't bother ordering a pierogi until you are in Eastern Europe (if you catch my drift).[/QUOTE]The "Russian Girls" on walking are not Russian but former USSR. It has been sometime since I was last in Berlin but then the quality of the true Russian chicks far surpassed what is at Galaxy.

HI,

I was just reading the report about visit during 'songkran'. I've also seen some videos of soi6-7 during sogkran on youtube. I'm planing to visit pats in the last week of March or first week of April'16 and in either case I'm leaving before April 10th. So that there won't be any problem.

Also, I am coming there with a friend who is visiting Thailand for the first time. So we are planning to go for a city and temple tour of Bangkok in one day.

Actually our departure flight we'll be at 2115 hrs from BKK. So we are planning to hire a cab / take a bus from pattaya which will take us to famous 3 temples, Royal Palace, Emerald Buddha, Vimanmek Royal Mansion (I know the list is long but certainly possible) and will leave us at BKK around 1730 hrs.

In short we need a ride for two from pattaya at 8-9 am which will show us above places and leave us at BKK by 5. 30-6 pm.

Does anyone know any such travel operator? Any idea of rental car tarrif? Preferrably honda city or corrola.

Thanks

This is an old report. Around June 2015. I was active on another pattaya forum and I saw that DD was highly recommended on that forum. Taking their advice I had booked Cory and Apple in advance over the emails. David is of lot of help. Since I was reaching late in pattaya. I had booked a two hour slot at 11 pm. Compared to other places, DD prefers threesome and gives excellent services. There is no limit to number of Orgasms in the prescribed time limit. Best part about that place is focus on Hygiene. As soon as I reached, both the ladies walked me to the room and helped me undress. Cory helped me take a shower and Apple soaped me thoroughly twice. Both of them took showers and used mouthwash. I was really impressed with their details on cleanliness. The room was big and nice. It had a tv playing porno, a sex swing, and mirror on walls and ceiling. After the shower, I was lying on the bed and cory started with cat bath while apple started with BBBJ. Both of them are very well coordinated with the threesome act. I came in few minutes. It was a CIM. Now this was new. After the CIM they made me take a shower. Soaping me again. Entire process was repeated and then they started withe massage. COry was focussing on my back and Apple was giving me a rim job. After a bit of massage, action started. Apple was in WOT and Corry was playing my nipples. I finished in under ten minutes in this position. NOw I was too tired for round 3 due to travelling. But Cory took it as a challenge. Both of them started giving me HJ. Cory was playing with the balls and Apple was busy with HJ. I didn't know I could cum again so soon but due to their diligent effort, I came in few minutes. I was so impressed by their attitude. I tipped them 1 k each.

Total damage 4 k + 2 k (tips).

Time stayed - 1. 30 minutes.

Level of service - 9/10.

Value for money - 9/10.

You can google for Devil's den pattaya for pics and address.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1801228]
The only time of year you might wish to avoid is around "Songkhran", the Thai New Year. Some girls will go to visit their family (but again, there will be more than enough still in Pattaya and Bangkok), but most that stay will just party and throw water around. That period of year will be bad for mongering, but fun for participating in the festivities.
[/QUOTE]I have been hoping to plan my trip to coincide with Songkran. Arrive the day before it begins and then stay 2 weeks and celebrate my birthday.

I'm not really interested in a straight mongering vacation. I'd rather split my time between playing tourist and mongering. Songkran just looks like a fun, messy experience.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1801228]Even if suddenly 50% of all bargirls would disappear in Pattaya, there will still be more ladies can you can ever hope to make love to.[/QUOTE]Agree. The amount of girls here is just insane. There's not only a lot of them but they're everywhere!

Even this morning as I was heading out for lunch I noticed a hot girl picking up her ID at my hotel concierge. I asked if she was available she said not right now but gave me her number to call her when I wanted her to come back.

[QUOTE=AmitS;1801296]Actually our departure flight we'll be at 2115 hrs from BKK. So we are planning to hire a cab / take a bus from pattaya which will take us to famous 3 temples, Royal Palace, Emerald Buddha, Vimanmek Royal Mansion (I know the list is long but certainly possible) and will leave us at BKK around 1730 hrs.

In short we need a ride for two from pattaya at 8-9 am which will show us above places and leave us at BKK by 5. 30-6 pm.[/QUOTE]It is easy to see Bangkok in one day. I think the tourist venues open at 10 am. The best thing to do is to take a taxi to the airport and leave your things in the luggage room. Then take a taxi to the Grand Palace. The temple of the Emerald Buddha is actually inside of that complex. When you finish there you will take another taxi to the next place on your list. Then when you finish that back to the airport. No need to keep the same taxi. Taxis are plentiful and cheap. Plus there is really no place for the taxis to wait for people.

What I really recommend is staying in Bangkok the night before your sightseeing so you will be well-rested instead of rushing trying to get out of Pattaya that morning. Also get a late check-out so you can at least shower before your flight back home. You are sure to do a lot of sweating in Bangkok.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1801362]I have been hoping to plan my trip to coincide with Songkran. Arrive the day before it begins and then stay 2 weeks and celebrate my birthday.

I'm not really interested in a straight mongering vacation. I'd rather split my time between playing tourist and mongering. Songkran just looks like a fun, messy experience.[/QUOTE]It may be fun for the first 5 minutes, but after that you will surely get tired of getting drenched with ice cold water every time you walk or ride down the street. Maybe coincide your trip to get there and just do the last day of Songkran. Foreigners that are in the know try to avoid even going outside during that time, if they don't leave town altogether.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1801467]It may be fun for the first 5 minutes, but after that you will surely get tired of getting drenched with ice cold water every time you walk or ride down the street. Maybe coincide your trip to get there and just do the last day of Songkran. Foreigners that are in the know try to avoid even going outside during that time, if they don't leave town altogether.[/QUOTE]Three days worth might be a bit too much. As always, I'll change plans 30 times before I ever board the plane and then change again after I arrive.

[QUOTE=AmitS;1801296]HI,
So we are planning to go for a city and temple tour of Bangkok in one day.

Actually our departure flight we'll be at 2115 hrs from BKK. So we are planning to hire a cab / take a bus from pattaya which will take us to famous 3 temples, Royal Palace, Emerald Buddha, Vimanmek Royal Mansion (I know the list is long but certainly possible) and will leave us at BKK around 1730 hrs.

In short we need a ride for two from pattaya at 8-9 am which will show us above places and leave us at BKK by 5. 30-6 pm.

Does anyone know any such travel operator? Any idea of rental car tarrif? Preferrably honda city or corrola.

Thanks[/QUOTE]You can take a taxi from Pattaya to Bangkok. That takes between 1. 5 to 2 hours to get to the airport and at least 2 hours (and more if the traffic is bad) to get to the Royal Palace.

Taking a proper visit to the Royal Palace and the Temple of the Emerald Buddha will take a few hours at least.

Vimanmek Palace is also quite beautiful but you have to take a guided tour inside and there are much more nice things to see there, such as the stables of the White Elephants.

Combining the transfer from Pattaya to Bangkok, the Royal Palace / Emerald Buddha and Vimanmek Palace and then getting back in time to the airport (by that time it is rush hour in Bangkok) would be next to impossible and will stress you out and cost you a fair amount of "waiting time" for the taxi, unless you want to lug your luggage around to all these places?.

Far better indeed, as has been suggested, to arrive in Bangkok the night before. A hotel near Khao San Road would make it a lot easier to visit the places you want to see and they will keep your luggage during the day.

And hey, being in Bangkok the night before may give you enough time to visit an oily or soapy massage place!

[QUOTE=AmitS;1801296]HI,

I was just reading the report about visit during 'songkran'. I've also seen some videos of soi6-7 during sogkran on youtube. I'm planing to visit pats in the last week of March or first week of April'16 and in either case I'm leaving before April 10th. So that there won't be any problem.

Also, I am coming there with a friend who is visiting Thailand for the first time. So we are planning to go for a city and temple tour of Bangkok in one day.

Actually our departure flight we'll be at 2115 hrs from BKK. So we are planning to hire a cab / take a bus from pattaya which will take us to famous 3 temples, Royal Palace, Emerald Buddha, Vimanmek Royal Mansion (I know the list is long but certainly possible) and will leave us at BKK around 1730 hrs.

In short we need a ride for two from pattaya at 8-9 am which will show us above places and leave us at BKK by 5. 30-6 pm.

Does anyone know any such travel operator? Any idea of rental car tarrif? Preferrably honda city or corrola.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Songkran is the worst time to visit Pattaya. Most girls go home to their provinces. Also, its no fun after the first few minutes to walk around getting drenched at every turn.

To cover all the touristy places in BKK in 1 day is next to impossible. They all demand a lot of walking around and easily take upward of 2 hours per place. None of them open before 10.00 am. I presume you don't want to just "see" these places as part of a checklist. Allow time in between for food and movement from one attraction to another. All of them are large complexes and you will get tired in the tropical climate. Stay hydrated at all times.

There are several private taxis advertising on the internet for PYX-BKK rides. A ride to the airport costs THB 1000 while a ride to BKK city will cost THB 1200. A trip to BKK city and then onward to Airport with all this sightseeing thrown in will take some negotiation, but expect THB 2000. If you are staying in one of the recommended hotels, then simply asking the front desk to arrange a taxi will do the trick. They are pretty reliable. You can get a Camry or an Accord for the price I am quoting here. Alternately, if you have PM please let me know, I can send you a contact number for a service provider I have been using for several years without any complaints.

[QUOTE=Amagarwa;1801328]....Compared to other places, DD prefers threesome and gives excellent services.

I was so impressed by their attitude. I tipped them 1 k each.[/QUOTE]Devil's Den is an excellent choice for a threesome. In fact they only allow a threesome if you want services in-house. You made good choices. You seem to be very generous with the tip, but if they made you come thrice in 90 minutes then one could argue its money well spent.

On a separate note. Has anyone tried DD's meals on wheels service? I have been thinking about it for a few years now but never got down to booking it. It seems a bit over the top on pricing.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1801593]Devil's Den is an excellent choice for a threesome. In fact they only allow a threesome if you want services in-house. You made good choices. You seem to be very generous with the tip, but if they made you come thrice in 90 minutes then one could argue its money well spent.

On a separate note. Has anyone tried DD's meals on wheels service? I have been thinking about it for a few years now but never got down to booking it. It seems a bit over the top on pricing.[/QUOTE]I have reported before that a girl who works there said they generally only do BJ in the vehicle.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1801596]I have reported before that a girl who works there said they generally only do BJ in the vehicle.[/QUOTE]Thanks Me E. That's an awful lot for a BJ. Even it was Britney Spears doing it.

I must have missed your report.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1801460]It is easy to see Bangkok in one day. I think the tourist venues open at 10 am. The best thing to do is to take a taxi to the airport and leave your things in the luggage room. Then take a taxi to the Grand Palace. The temple of the Emerald Buddha is actually inside of that complex. When you finish there you will take another taxi to the next place on your list. Then when you finish that back to the airport. No need to keep the same taxi. Taxis are plentiful and cheap. Plus there is really no place for the taxis to wait for people.

What I really recommend is staying in Bangkok the night before your sightseeing so you will be well-rested instead of rushing trying to get out of Pattaya that morning. Also get a late check-out so you can at least shower before your flight back home. You are sure to do a lot of sweating in Bangkok.[/QUOTE]Thanks Mr. Enternational. Your suggestion to take new taxi everytime looks sensible.

Thanks Blanquiceleste and Wolvenvacht for your replies.

Actually this would be my third visit to Thailand andI I've already visited three temples. But my friend is coming for the first time. So considering the available well visit The Palace first and then if time permits well decide for the rest.

Peace!

I went out to Walking Street on a Saturday night. First I went to Insomnia just before midnight to get the cheap San Mig Light, but for once I did not see anything to my liking. Then Happy go-go bar. Nice atmosphere, but the talent level wasn't huge.

I decided to try Skyfall for the first time. There were some super cute girls outside. It is a pleasant club, and the staff are eager to sit you well.

There was a girl dancing close by with the cutest buttocks you've ever seen. Firm like a teenager's and well-rounded. The rest of the body was not bad either. Not an ounce of fat on her.

I offered her a lady drink, and found out her name was Rung. She said she was 23 years old, but I think she was a little bit older than that.

She asked for 3000 Baht short-time, which I negotiated down to 2500. So I barfined her and took her to Oasis short-time hotel on Soi Happy.

I don't remember much about the sex, except that it was good and went on for quite a while. The key is to set the lighting in the room to an intimate setting, which you can do very nicely at Oasis.

At the end, I gave her a tip. All in all, I would recommend her, as she was quite committed in the sack, but mostly I recommend Skyfall, which is a relatively classy place, if you can say such a thing about Pattaya, and they know how to attract real beauties.

Report – Day 1.

This is a continuation of my Thailand trip report. I spent the previous 3 nights in Phuket, and my reports are located in the Phuket board.

Anyway, I took a Bangkok Airways flight to UTP from HKT. The flight was uneventful, being only partially full. But of course, I sit behind a couple who recline their seats all the way and I, being tallish, am having my knees squished. Can't they tell I am in discomfort here? Oh well. After the plane landed, I was not in a huge hurry so rather than getting a taxi for the trip into town, I got on a minibus. You think I would have learned. I boarded the bus at 4:55 but we didn't depart until 5:15. They took on 3 airport workers, leaving one spare seat, but as we were about to leave, there were still 2 people who were unable to get a ride, so they took them on. In a bit of karma perhaps, the woman who was seat-squishing me was one of them, and she had to share the end of a seat with another person for about 30 minutes. Anyway, after dropping the three airport workers off, then missing the turn to my hotel on Soi 13, I was the last one off. I don't get to my hotel until nearly 6:30. Oh well.

I unpack and leave for WS at 8:30. I compare how things are to how they were last May when I was here. I noted more people, and there a number of real-girls FL on Beach Road (BR). I hopped on a baht bus (10 B) for WS. As before, tons of Chinese. At 10 PM, from the south end of WS, throngs of them, in mass, we walking in. Incredible.

I first wanted to go to Peppermint, where I had so much fun the last time. There last May, I was trying to hook up with one of the most beautiful girls I had seen (Fon, No 8), and it took me three tries to finally get her. But she was quite new to the business and was a starfish. A very expensive star fish. Anyway, in my quest for Fon, I became friends with the mamas san, Luk, and I hung with a slightly chubby, flat chested Whan, No 86. On my last visit, Luk and written all their names down on a coaster, which I kept. When I entered the club, I gave the coaster to a waiter and he took it into the back and a minute later Luk came out all smiles. She remembered me, even where we had sat down on my last night. She said neither Fon nor Whan were working that night, but they would be there Wednesday. She also informed me the Peppermint was having a party Thursday and that I was invited. I tell you, being friends with the mama san is great. She told a big-chested girl to sit down and keep me company, but I was not interested in mongering with her. Peppermint is very expensive. Actually, I was feeling very tired and I felt like going back to the hotel and sleeping. OK, first night in Pattaya and I don't do anything, but I do feel I need some rest. I am no spring chicken.

So I depart and, in walking by Lighthouse one of the outside girls rushes over to me and excitedly asks if I remember her. Ummmmm. It is Bell, a girl I talked to a lot last time. I am not even sure if I reported on her in my May report, but she is a cute and enthusiastic spinner. If I remember correctly (and without going back to read my old report), she was not a dancer nor did she do take out, but she could be bar fined and she had wanted me to BF her for a hour or two for dinner. I declined at the time, but here she was again and now she danced and offered TO. I said I was tired but inquired about the rates, and she quoted 700 BF and 2500/3000 for her. She is really cute, a spinner, tight and toned, bubbly, one of the more enthusiastic dancers there, and I give it consideration but, again, I am tired. I say that maybe Friday I will take her out.

I then leave WS and walk back to my hotel via BR. There are more FLers out than in May, but many are LBs. Still, I pass by a couple of 7's that I consider, but ultimately I go back to the hotel alone, and not too disappointed with myself for doing so. I am looking forward to a busy Wednesday.

Summary: The Lighthouse has some decent girls for 700 BF and 2500/3000 take out. The Peppermint has some super hot girls. I didn't inquire about rates, but there are not cheap. Business, the mama san said, was not great that night (Try lowering the rates!

Tomorrow I expect to do some extensive mongering.

I believe it's the King's Birthday on Satrday 5th December but as it is s Saturday the public holiday will be Monday 7th. Do any of you more experienced travellers or expats know how it affects the bars anc clubs? I think I recall there was no alcohol or something on a previous visit. Pedro.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1801540]You can take a taxi from Pattaya to Bangkok. That takes between 1. 5 to 2 hours to get to the airport and at least 2 hours (and more if the traffic is bad) to get to the Royal Palace.

Taking a proper visit to the Royal Palace and the Temple of the Emerald Buddha will take a few hours at least.

Vimanmek Palace is also quite beautiful but you have to take a guided tour inside and there are much more nice things to see there, such as the stables of the White Elephants.

Combining the transfer from Pattaya to Bangkok, the Royal Palace / Emerald Buddha and Vimanmek Palace and then getting back in time to the airport (by that time it is rush hour in Bangkok) would be next to impossible and will stress you out and cost you a fair amount of "waiting time" for the taxi, unless you want to lug your luggage around to all these places?.

Far better indeed, as has been suggested, to arrive in Bangkok the night before. A hotel near Khao San Road would make it a lot easier to visit the places you want to see and they will keep your luggage during the day.

And hey, being in Bangkok the night before may give you enough time to visit an oily or soapy massage place![/QUOTE]ROYAL PALACE and emerald Buddha temple (inside the complex) CLOSES at 17:00.

Day 2.

I closed out yesterday's report looking forward to a busy Wednesday. That is pretty much what I got.

Even though this all happened yesterday as I write this, some of it actually seems like several days ago! Anyway, the bed I have at Sandy Springs is horrible. Lousy pillows and a hard mattress. I tossed and turned all night. I dragged out of bed, dressed and gathered together some dirty laundry that I then dropped off at a Soi 13/1 laundry place. She said it would be ready after noon the next day. I then wanted to restock my old Viagra collection. The ones I had were a good 7 years old! I can get up ok, but in the last year or two it takes constant stimulation to keep it up, and if I am not super excited, he is not always fully at attention. Older dudes will know what I mean. And I figure I can get Kamagra here for a fraction of the cost of Viagra back home. I find a place that sells 12 for 1,000 Baht. I don't know if that is good or not, but I later found they sure do work!

I then decide to go visit Soi 6. I walked up and down the street at around 1 PM and was not impressed. I then headed to Soi 3. Not impressed there either, but I decided to get a massage at the 2nd place on the left from the 2nd Road entrance. None of the girls were really all that attractive, but I chose one with a nice face who had a nice smile. Never asked her name. She suggested an oil massage for 300 Baht and we headed upstairs (a good sign). I stripped and she showered me (another good sign), then the massage started. Now, I had taken half a Kamagra to see how it worked before going in. After the flip, she spent a fair amount of time massaging my upper, inner thighs. Sure enough, the Kamagra does its thing and I get a boner without really meaning to. She laughs and offers to take care of him. No mention of extra fees, but I give her to go-ahead. After a few minutes she comments that I am taking a while (in a nicer way that this) and I replay that I need boom boom. She replies that I won't get boom boom from her. Well, that kills the mood and I soon say I am done. It takes a while for the boner to completely go away, but I shower again, dress and give her a 200 Baht tip. Not sure if that was sufficient, but she had no obvious disappointment.

After a short rest to replenish my money, I come back to Soi 6 at around 4. It is better this time. I find a cute spinner outside Foxy's Bar. The girl, Bee, had a decent face and a nice, early 20's, small chested body. Classic Issan girl I suppose. Poor English, saying she had only been there for a few weeks. Price is a 300 BF and 1000 for her. Not bad. Upstairs, she gives me a shower and in bed she starts off slow, which I like. Some FK and light touching go on for at least 10 to 15 minutes. Most girls want to get to the deed right away, but she is happy to take it easy. No BJ, but she is super tight and has to squirm a bit to get me in. Multiple positions, but I fail to release. Not her fault. I have a limited liquid supply and I want to save it. But even after I stop, we continue to hold and caress each other until my still-under-the-Kamagra erection subsides. Another shower and a 200 be tip and I leave with smile. My Pattaya mongering is getting off to pretty good start now.

Returning to the hotel around 5, I see more FLers on BR. I walk down BR, hungry, and return to the Bay Watch grill, a nice place with a view of the bay where I had breakfast. Very reasonable prices with good food, as well as a cute waitress! With my stomach full, back to the hotel for a rest. The plan is to rest then return to WS around 9 to go see my girls at the Peppermint. Well, I kept to the plan until I was just about the enter WS. I am coming in from the north on that narrow walkway to the east if the entrance and just as I am turning the corner there to enter WS a girl who is leaving gives me a big smile of presumed recognition and comes back to, grabbing my hand excitedly. Um. Who is this?? Well, turns out we had never met but she latches on to me and asks if I will take her to this place in WS where there is a really good singer. Well, sure. She is cute and bubbly, nice legs, not the greatest face but her smile is so big and her enthusiasm so great. Like the Soi 6 girl, her name was Bee (though I might have the Soi 6's girl named wrong.) I agree and we each get a drink while listening to music for maybe 45 minutes. She then wants to go for a walk and so, hand in hand, we walk down to about the Peppermint, then we turn around and she flat out asks if I want to go to my hotel now. Well, um, I wanted to see Fon at Peppermint, but the night is still early so I can do her then be back here hopefully before Fon is BFed. Well, at the hotel, she showers then waits for me. She reveals her naked body to me and it isn't too bad. She kisses and, with a recharge of half a Kamagra tablet, I easily come to attention. But she skips a BJ and soon is on top of me. After minute I am smelling an unpleasant smell. Is this her?? A little later she comments on the smell and blames it on my condom. Nope. I am getting turned off by the smell and how her once bubbly self has transformed itself to her being rather boring, uninspiring and, well, smelly. I stop and lie next to her, then she asks how long I will be in town. Umm, 3 days I say. She says "I stay with you 3 days then. " Umm, taken aback I say maybe 1. She wonders why not 3? Argh. Her English is not all that good, which frustrates things further. She watches TV for a while then says something about going to seven for food, or something. I ask if she means she is going to 7-11 for food, but I never got a clear answer that I was able to understand. But she dressed and wanted to make sure I would still be there when she returned, and she wanted to spend the next 3 days with me. I said she could spend the night, and that I would wait but she needed to hurry. Well, I really wanted to get rid of her. She was not being a GF I would want to spend my last available days to monger with. She leaves and after 75 minutes she has not returned so, with relief, decide to go back to WS. The hotel is sealed up pretty good after hours and I didn't think we would be able to get up to my room or be able to harass me should she have returned, but I paid her 1500 Baht before she left and hoped she would not return.

I returned to WS and bee lined to the Peppermint. Luk, the mama san was there and she called over Wham who was happy to see me, but Fon had just left on a LT. Dern it. But Luk called the manager of the place over to meet me. Sheesh, I feel like a VIP. I am getting top star treatment now. I asked Luk if either girl had remembered me and she said they both did. I can understand Wham remembering, but I really did not hang out much with Fon. But to summarize, I really didn't want to, but they all got me to BF Wham. She is still slightly chubby and small breasts, but she is still a sweety. BF was 800. I should have asked the girls rate, as I knew they were expensive, but I didn't, hoping Wham would let me get my on the relative cheap. Bad move on my part. Anyway, she was pretty decent in bed. She liked to kiss, gave a really nice BJ which she actually seemed to enjoy, and when she climbed on top, she arched her back as she moan in unfaked ecstasy (I think), which was almost pornstar like. I finished in missionary to her continues moans, but almost wish I had saved up. Oh well. She later said she came first. And, no, there was no stinky condom smell. We cleaned up and I gave her 2000 Baht. She nicely said that the current price for ST was 3000. Great. I should have known. I know she was telling the truth for if she lied and I mentioned it to Luk she would be in trouble. But no way was this girl worth the same rate as the others in there based on looks anyway. She really is the least physically attractive girl at Peppermint (most of the rest of really good). But whatever. She left and I never saw any signs of Bee.

Days summary: Soi 3 was not so good for me. 300 for oil massage and 200 tip for a fully dressed HJ. Soi 6 is hit or miss, but seems to have more and better girls later in the afternoon. Had a petite cutie, semi-GFE, for 300 BF and 1000 fee. Had a strange encounter with a WS FLer who picked me out of the crowd, where I gave her 1500 for a below average session, but she started off pure GFE, then wanted to spend most of my remaining time in Pattaya with. Then, from the Pepperment, 800 BF and 3000 for the girl (average ones are same as the beautiful ones for some strange reason). But 3 women, plus a rub and tug, allon my first full day on mongering. Not too bad for 7,300 Bhat inclusive of tips (exclusive of drinks).

[QUOTE=FLHawk;1803441]And I figure I can get Kamagra here for a fraction of the cost of Viagra back home. I find a place that sells 12 for 1,000 Baht. [/QUOTE]You should pay about 30 baht each. So for 12 you should have paid 360 baht. If you buy a box of 50 then you can get it for less.[QUOTE=FL Hawk;1803441]Then, from the Pepperment, 800 BF and 3000 for the girl[/QUOTE]Oh My Buddha. 3800 for ST. How much is LT?

If you go to soi 3 on 2nd road and turn left and go 20 meters, look to the left and you will see a small pharmacy. They sell APSALIS (cialis generic. Indian) for 400 be / package of 4 pills if you buy 3 packages.

Also a good place for the generic viagra as well. They also sell the "gel" version of kamagra in various flavors in 50 pack boxes for about 1300 be total.

[B]Continued from Bangkok Thread
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[B]November 11 (Day 4: Wednesday)
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I had booked cab through VR Taxi, costed me 1300 baht for pick from Hotel Mermaid to Pattaya. I was staying at Whitehouse condotel on Soi 13 for 4 nights. I had booked a Deluxe Suite room and paid approx. 3200 baht per day. I checked in around 2. 30 pm. The accomodation was very good and I had a Living area with a sofa set, Bedroom and Toilet with Bathtub and separate shower area which I always prefer at my disposal. There were two balconies but only the one attached to living room had seating arrangement. The kitchen area was very spacious and had a mini dining table with chairs and full sized refrigerator. The bed and pillows were very comfortable. Not too soft or hard, just the right feel to get me into a deep slumber. Wifi speed was amazing and no dropouts in both the rooms including bathroom. Plush accommodation with an apartment kind of feel. The room had an old style lock and key which had to be deposited at the reception every time I left room and collect when I came back. An inconvenience but also an advantage compared to the plastic swipe key system as both AC remained switched on even when I locked and left the room only to come back to a prechilled room. The reception was manned for 24 hours so I never had to wait or face any delay. All girls were compulsorily registered and their ID card was deposited to be returned when they left. I always got a call whenever the girl left the room. The hotel is in a quiet Soi hence no sound or music to disturb you during day or night. Liked the silence despite being in the heart of the city. It was a very small walk either to Beach or Second road.

I found few drawbacks though.

The towels were quite old and looked worn out. I asked for some extra towels which were provided to me without extra charge. Courtesy of a 100 baht tip to the housekeeping staff which I did even at Mermaid in BKK.

Toiletries were extremely basic. I always carry my own hence not an issue.

The rooms don't have a good view. Mine was on the 5th floor and facing the condo besides, no view at all. The best view one will be able to get will be of soi 13.

No late checkouts. If one desired to stay more for few hours than 50% of the room cost would be charged.

No breakfast was included even at this cost of the room.

No bathrobes in the room.

The room reeked of smoke. I am a smoker hence was not an issue but nonsmokers might find it inconvenient. The earlier guest seem to have blatantly ignored the no smoking in room rule.

I knew some of the above when I had booked and was ok as I preferred a bigger and plush room compared to sea view or pool view but small room.

[B]Afternoon: Rasputin
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I left for Rasputin around 4 pm. Took the baht bus from second road and was there in 10 minutes. Pattaya indeed was not very crowded and never did I once get stuck in traffic except for one time while going to walking street.

I walked in the door and a mamasan got hold of me. She took me to show her girls. The seating area was on the left of the entrance with segregation of girls according to classification. As we walked in I could see some beautiful girls and we kept walking till she stopped in front of the segment wherein maximum girls were sitting. All the girls were seated to the left. I started getting flying kisses and smiles from the girls. Some were even saying Hi, Hello, aloud signaling for me to choose them. The mamasan told me that this was the 2200 baht range. I wanted to see the entire range before I could decide and told the mamasan. She then started walking back towards the entrance and stopped just before. There were approx. 6 odd girls there and few of them were real stunners. Even better than the one I had seen at Lord. I was amazed to see such beautiful girls in Pattaya. Unfortunately the two girls I liked were not making any eye contact and seemed to avoid me. Looks like they were waiting for some East Asian dudes. I asked the mamasan if there were any more categories or girls. She said there is one more category but expensive. I asked her to show me the girls. She then called out loud and two girls walked into the seating area on the right of the entrance. She asked me if I liked them. I nodded and she then said 4000 baht. I was ok as one of them was a real stunner. I had not seen girl like that even at the most expensive range in Lords or Nataree sideline girls. She had the quintessential thai look and it just got to me. She was smiling at me and that was all I needed at that point of time to make my selection. We walked towards the reception which is at backside of the selection area. I paid 4000 baht and the girl got a key. We took the lift upstairs to 3rd floor If I remember well. We walked out and into the first room on the left of the passage. The room was twice the size of the one at Lords. It had a proper seating area and a separate area for the tub which was on an elevated platform. There was a wash basin and a urinal on the left between the bath tub area and the seating area. I remembered having peed in the excess water outlet at Lord while Ann was holding the handshower to flush it away like a magic wand. 555.

I asked her name to which she replied Oun. I had to ask her to spell it to get it right. Oun was a very stunning girl. Clean skin and body. Be sized breast. She must be around 24 I guessed. Though I am not very good at identifying age of thai girls yet. We ordered ourselves some drinks. Started chatting, usual pleasantries. I asked her about her work schedule. She started work around 4 pm and ended by 1. 30 am. I was again the first customer for her that day. Oun went and got the water flowing in tub. We chatted for some more time with me exploring if she was game after her working hours and would like to go to a disco for few drinks. Oun didn't seem interested nor did I pursue further. She got me soaped up and started the same routine like lords. I was expecting a BBBJ in the tub but it didn't happen. Oun gave me a short prostrate massage and got me relaxed and hard at the same time. We then cleaned up and I went to the bed. She followed shortly. We lied next to each other smiling. I took the lead and started kissing her. She responded. We didn't do tongue but was some good passionate kissing. Oun was stroking my shaft at the same time while I was exploring her pussy. Oun got on top of me and kissed me on the chest and got herself to my shaft. A good BBBJ with ball licking followed. I handed over the sagami to her which she slid on. She then started to slow ride me. I was getting a feeling that I might come so I stopped her and asked her to lie down. I got her into miss and started thrusting her. We were kissing at the same time and she was whispering fast. I increased my speed at the risk of coming soon as I had got very hot by then. I managed to continue for some time till she came and it sounded like a baby crying. I felt like laughing but controlled myself. Got her to change doggy but couldn't hold for long and finished within a minute. It had been very good sex. She got up and brought our drinks. We finished our drinks resting on the bed. A clean up shower and we got dressed. I gave her a 300 baht tip. We then got down and I said bye to her. As I was walking out I saw the mamasan sitting at the entrance. She asked me if everything was ok. I said yes and handed her 200 baht tip. I told her I might come back again and would like to see more girls. She told me that 7 pm was the best time to visit as all girls were on floor by then.

Overall experience 8 /10.

[B]I cannot help but make a comparison between Lord and Rasputin after having visited both.
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Girls: Both places had a good selection, atleast 2 whom I could session with. But I think Rasputin had better looking girls especially in the higher categories on the day and time I visited.

Room: Rasputin was bigger and better.

Service: Both were very good and worth the money.

Price: Rasputin maxes out at 4000 baht and Lord at 10400 baht.

I decided to walk back to Soi 13 from Rasputin. It was a long walk but the climate was very pleasant and I enjoyed. I crossed over to the beach sidewalk near Soi 7 so that I could also have a look at the girls available at the coconut bar. There was nothing that caught my eye. I came back to room and rested for some time. One of my regular L was sending me txt to visit her at her bar in Simon 2 on walking street for a drink. I thought I will go to walking street around 11 pm, meet her for some time and move onto Insomnia.

[B]Night: Insomnia
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I met my regular L at Simon bar. We had few drinks. Chatted for some time. She wanted to go with me but I refused. I told her that I had some other friends to meet and will catch up with her later on. She was upset but I managed to dodge her and move on. I reached Insomnia around 1 am. The place was crowded and it seemed like I would definitely find someone good tonight. Insomnia was a big relief. I got myself a corona and found some space to stand between the DJ area and loo exit. There were 3 girls and a guy standing beside me. The place was rocking. I decided to have a look around. I crawled and slowly moved making my way till I got to the end of the bar. Then I went back from the entrance side right upto the back of the bar. There were some amazing girls in the bar that night. Unfortunately I was not finding a place to stand anywhere near them. I was just being pushed ahead by the people behind me. The bouncers were making it tougher by asking to continuously move on. I came back to the place where I was initially standing. One of the girl standing behind me tapped me to make way for her. She seemed like a stage dancer and was so. She then went up on the stage. The other girl moved out with her guy. The third girl was left alone. I had a good look at her and she was to my liking. I got talking to her and shook our booty for few nos. I felt a good vibe with her and asked her if she wanted to go with me. She agreed. I asked her how much till next day to which she quoted 3000 baht and I agreed. Her name was Moon. We walked out of walking street and took a baht bus. Once in the room I gave her one of my Ts so that she could change from her party wear. Moon got comfortable and wanted to drink more. Luckily I had picked up a JW black bottle and decided on opening it. We chatted for some time and started getting cozy on the sofa in the living room. Alcohol is indeed a great lubricant for conversations. We were snogging and I was moving my hands all over her body. Moon sensed my mood and got up and took me for a shower. Once cleaned we jumped into bed and continued our snogging. Moon had a good be+ sized natural breasts. I was enjoying kissing her breasts and alternating between snogging and kissing her body. She turned me over and went down to give me a good BBBJ. She slipped a sagami on me and wanted me to fuck her doggy. I was more than happy. She had already got wet so it was easier for me to enter her and continue to thrust her well. She seemed to like it. We were both drunk and enjoying it. I continued for some time till I could hear her softly moan. Then she told me to stop and change to miss. I realized that she had come and I continued. She tongued me well while massaging my balls with her one hand I couldn't continue for long and finished. It was good. We rested for some time and she had already started playing with my shaft trying to get me hard. I was too tired and told her to go to sleep. We would continue in the morning. I dozed off.

The next thing I remember is her waking me up. I asked her what time it was to which she replied 11 am. We had overslept. I tried to pull her towards me but it seemed she had already dressed and had to go back home. It seemed that her daughter was not well. It sounded genuine so I let her go with a 200 baht tip. I was left alone with my morning wood. She asked me if I was going to visit Insomnia tonight. I replied I might and was not sure. She gave me a goodbye kiss and left.

Overall experience 7 /10.

[B]November 12 (Day 5: Thursday)
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I walked over to Kiss in the afternoon. Like the food here. Always fresh and hot and well-priced. Came back and lazed around resting for some more time. The heat was up and I was in no mood to go out and sweat myself.

[B]Evening: Soi 6
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[B]Red Point Bar
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I went to Soi 6 around 6 pm. Walked from Second road. There were hardly men on the road. However girls were in full strength. I decided to walk the entire stretch to see it all and then come back to the bar wherein I had liked girls. I walked with a slow pace waving and smiling at the girls. Could see one odd girl in every second or third bar but not good enough to stop me in my tracks. I continued walking till the end and then turned back. Somewhere in the middle I found a girl smiling at me and was sweet looking. I went inside the bar. It was Red Point. Another girl followed me inside. I told her I wanted a different girl so she asked me to identify her. The bar is behind closed doors so I peeked out and pointed the girl which I wanted. She was brought in and seated beside me. Her name was Ae. She seemed very happy to be inside and was giggling. Usual pleasantries. Got ourselves a drink. Ae suddenly started kissing me and rubbing my tool. Ae was getting me all hot. She asked me if I wanted to go upstairs. I wanted to so I asked her about the money. She wanted 1000 baht, room was 350 baht and drinks extra. I said ok and paid for the drinks. She led me upstairs to the first floor and into the room. The room was very clean and had a bathroom inside. We sat on the bed and she was feeling me all over while I smoked. We went into the shower where she cleaned me up. Back on bed and began the foreplay. Good BBBJ and rubber on she rode me for few minutes. I got her to lie my side and fucked her slowly for few minutes. Ae was kissing and responding well. I changes to miss and finished in few minutes. Cleaned up, gave her 200 baht tip and left. Short and quick but a good pop.

Overall experience 7 /10.

[B]
Some bar in the Northern Wilderness[/B]

It was almost 8 pm and my plan was to go back to the room, rest for some time and hit Insomnia around 12 or 1 am. I had accidently walked towards the second road instead of beach road. I decided to walk some more so started walking on second road towards North. After few minutes of walking I crossed Alcazar and came across a bar on the other side of the road. There were few girls I could see so I decided to cross the road and check out. I went and sat at the bar. I was the only customer. There were approx. 5 girls in the bar. One looked extremely young and was smiling to me. She was a slim gazelle. I called her over and got her a drink. She was extremely happy. I asked her name, she replied Mon. While I started talking to Mon I figured out she could barely understand or speak English. She knew few words and asked me to speak very slowly so that she could try and understand what I was saying. She was a PYT. I was besotted by her. I also took liking to another girl and got her a drink as well. Another drink for the mamasan or bar manager. They were all happy with the drinks and I was enjoying. I thought that it would be better to barfine Mon and take with me rather than start hunt all over at night. I liked her and wanted to kiss her badly. I then asked Mon if she would be willing to come with me. She agreed. The barfine was 600 and Mon would take 3000 LT. I agreed and paid the tab. I had one more round of drinks with both the girls, mamasan excluded this time. I walked out with Mon alongwith me. We crossed over from Soi 5 to beach road took a baht bus and got back to Hotel.

We rested and tried to have some conversation. Mon also seemed to enjoy the TV and her cell phone in between. A common problem with the young girls. I got her to sit with me on the sofa as we were playing with each other. She was very ticklish and would burst into laughter whenever I tried to move my hand on her flat tummy or her shapely butt. I kissed her and she was sweet. She also kissed me back. This was good. It was already 12 am and I was feeling hungry. I told her that we should get some food and then maybe hit a disco. Mon had not been to Walking street much and was eager to go to a disco. She had gone there few months back with her friends. I told her that we will got a disco first and then have dinner. She was ok as she had eaten her meal before she came to work.

We went to Insomnia first. Got in and it was lively there. Good crowd and great EDM. Got us beers. Mon liked the music and had started moving. I joined her and we were having fun. There were some good pickings and smiles all around. I had Mon with me so couldn't do anything. I did get tempted though but decided to stick to the girl I was with. We finished our beer and I decided to go to 808. Like hiphop music as well. We walked upto the entrance. The bouncers there screen all girls ID. He checked Mon's and they started talking in thai. I couldn't understand but knew that there was some problem. I asked her what happened. She told me that the entry age to 808 was 25 years and above. She was 20 so cannot go in. I said it was alright and went on to have dinner. We ate some good thai food at Saengchan Kitchen hotel. This is on the way when we take a shortcut to second road for baht bus late in the night after 3 am. Hotel is a favourite with working girls. My regulars always brought me her for dinner after the party was over and we were headed home.

We walked upto South Pattaya road as the baht buses start plying from here only after 3 am. Mon went to take a shower. I went in after she finished. When I came out she was already under the sheets wrapped in a towel. I asked her if she needed my Tshirt as I didn't have a bathrobe in the closet. She refused. I joined her on bed. She hugged me and her tickle seem to have vanished when I started moving my hands over her body. She was moaning and moved her head towards mine I kissed her and she kissed me back. We snogged for few minutes. She was indeed sweet. She was kinda flat chested or A sized. I understood the reason why she was refusing to wear my tshirt. I told her I liked her and sucked her nipples. Seemed to be her small but effective weak spot. We continued kissing and feeling each other for few more minutes till she decided to go down on me. Moon's BBBJ was elementary. She only knew up and down at a pace. I had to hold her head and guide her to do it slow and easy. I got my sagami on and got her to lie in miss. I felt her pussy and could see that she was wet. I guided myself into her but was not able to insert completely. I am a normal size hence was wondering why it was being so hard to enter her. Without wasting I got up and brought the KY tube from the closet. Got her to apply some and then entered her slowly. She indeed was very tight. I thrusted her slowly and could see her moaning and enjoying. I gradually increased speed and she came hugging me tightly. I got her to turn over and on her knees. Applied some more KY and entered her from behind. She was very tight. I started slowly, continued for few minutes, picked rhythm and came. It was an amazing experience. Mon takes the crown of being the tightest girl I have bed till date in Thailand.

Though Mon seemed like an amateur and had lots to learn her attitude was good and she was willing to do whatever was being told. Mon told me that she had come a month back to Pattaya. She was staying with one of the girl from the bar who was from her village and a family friend. She had not been barfined much and had been primarily with East Asian customers mainly Japanese guys. We went to sleep in some time. She hugged me tightly and slept.

When I woke up Mon was in the bathroom. I waited for her to come out. I went in and got cleaned. Back on bed we were trying to have some conversation. She told me that she did not like Pattaya and might go to Bangkok. She surely would get employed by a Karaoke joint basis of her looks and body type. We got kissing and fondling each other. I had a hard on but it was not raging. She did try to do a BBBJ but was not very effective. I still got the sagami on and tried to enter her. I applied some KY as well but just was not hard enough to enter her. She got the condom off and tried to make me come by doing BBBJ. Unfortunately her skills were seriously lacking. I ended it. It was 11 am and she was in no rush to leave. Seemed like she liked my company and the room. She went to sleep for some time while I lazed around watching TV and checking for girls on wechat, unsuccessfully. Lot of LBs. Mon finally got up at 1 pm. I told her if she wanted to get some food to which she declined. She had to be back to work by 7 pm so wanted to go to her room and rest there. I paid her 3000 baht and 300 baht tip. She asked me if I was going to visit her bar tonight. I paused and told her that if I am free then I surely would. I didn't want to lock myself and make her wait for me. Bad decision. We had a good parting kiss and she went away.

Overall experience 8. 5 /10 for her sweetness and looks.

[B]November 13 (Day 6: Friday)
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[B]Evening
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[B]Soi 6: Hero bar
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I hit Soi 6 again around 6 pm. As I walked towards beach road eyeing all the girls around midway one caught my fancy. She was wearing a pink and white laced dress like all others in her bar. The outfit looked super cute on her and I got drawn in. I settled on the stool in front of the bar and she was quick to join me. She had a sweet smile and took no time to get cozy with me. Drinks followed and so did the usual pleasantries. Her name was Ploy and she was across the border from Laos. This would me my first Lao girl experience and I was happy for increasing my flags. Ploy was very fast and was kissing me within minutes. She didn't seem drunk but was overjoyed to have got a customer it seemed. I went with the flow feeling her body and pussy. She was eager enough to open and show me her A sized. We spent some more time fooling around and having fun. Few other customers in the bar and they all seemed to be busy with their ladies as well. I settled tab and we went to first floor to the room. Unfortunately while the room was good but the toilet was common and outside the room. We both undressed wrapped ourselves in towels and walked across the hallway to the bathroom. Cleaned up ourselves and back in the room. I must say the room at red point were much better in comparison but I was not going to be there for more than an hour so ignored the ambience and decided to enjoy. Ploy was a good kisser. She took no time to get me hard and start with a good BBBJ. She had a slender tight body, no stretch marks. I had checked if she had any kid and she replied with a no. She had been working in Thailand from past two years and had spent good enough time to master all her skills. We started with her on top then changed to sideways, changed to missionary for few minutes and then I finished in doggy. It was a fast but very good session. Rested for few minutes then back to shower and paid her 1000 + 200 baht tip. She was happy and kissed me deeply. Felt strange that for same amount of money girl other day did not bat an eyelid.

Overall experience 7. 5 /10.

I was out on the road and walking towards Mons bar on second road. I really felt like bar fining her again. I reached her bar around 8 pm and was greeted with smiles from all ladies except Mon. She was missing. I settled down and asked for her. The mamsan told me that she had called in sick because of stomach ache. I didn't buy that story and guessed in all probability she would have been bar fined by someone before I reached. I was stupid enough not to take her digits or add her on FB. I regretted it heavily and a good lesson learnt. If in doubt always hang on to a thread which will help reconnect with the girl. Too late for me though. I stuck around tried chatting with the other girls who seemed eager to join me but I didn't feel like it. I settled my tab and went back to my room. It would be good to hit the discos later in the night I thought to myself.

[B]Night:
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[B]Insomnia:
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I walked into Insomnia around 1 am. Got my beer and was moving around. Bumped into Moon, usual hugs and small chat. She was with same two girls from before and none seem to be interesting. She told me to stand at their table as it was pretty crowded. Her stage dancer friend then asked me if I could buy her tequila shots. I couldn't say no so 2 tequila shots and 400 baht spend unnecessarily. Moon then told me that 3 of them were sisters. She was the middle one and the stage dancer was the youngest. As if it mattered to me but I went with her chat. I was not interesting in taking her that night hence decided to move on before her sister could suck me dry with tequila shots.

As I was moving in the bar I felt a tap on my shoulder. I turned around and it was my regular L. I thought she would be at her bar in Simon till 3 or 4 am. She looked upset that I had not met her or rather barfined since I had been in Pattaya. We got ourselves to the VIP section courtesy of her card. She is a regular at Insomnia and the staff also know her well. We had few beers and then I decided to take her with me. We got out but it was only 2. 15 am so I took her to 808. Good music and time well spend. It is always amazing that so many girls smile at you and are available when you already are with a girl. We spend an hour there swaying to music and drinking. Back to room and then her sad rant for another hour on the sofa, luckily for me I had whiskey and was enjoying it more over her chatter. My senses were going fuzzy. She gave me a good shoulder and back massage. Then took me to shower, cleaned every part of the body and crevice she could reach. On to bed and a good session, good BBBJ, miss and doggy. Lots of snogging. L is the odd girl who's a shower freak and jumps in at every opportunity to clean. She wanted me to take a shower again to which I refused. She cleaned me up with tissues and I was out. Next thing I remember is waking up to the sound of the knocking on door. I had forgotten to put the DND hence house keeping was eager to get in. I gave L 3000 baht and the remaining half JW bottle.

I parted with her after a sumptuous meal at Kiss. Same question whether I was going to meet her again to which I myself didn't know the answer hence looked at her like a confused soul. She just went away on a motorbike taxi.

Overall experience: Always 8.5/10 with her due to her ability to communicate and converse basis of her international travel and exposure.

[B]November 14 (Day 7: Saturday)
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[B]Evening: Soi 6
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I had been lucky and enjoyed two great evenings at soi 6 and hence was eager to return on my last evening as well.

[B]Dolls Bar:
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This was the first bar I got into after chatting with a cutie sitting outside. She was happy to join me inside. They have a good setup with seating area and dance poles for each area. Buyer's remorse hit me as there were few hot ones already inside dancing in front of their customers. Nonetheless drinks were ordered. Ladyboy mamasan was quite pushy and squeezed out a drink from me. Usual pleasantries. I had the girl on my right and the mamasan on my left. I asked the girl if she would join me upstairs to which she nodded smilingly. She went to the loo. I asked the mamasan about the price. It was 500 for the room and 1000 baht for the girl. I was ok and said I would take the girl upstairs. The girl returned back and sat beside me. They both started talking in thai and were having a little argument. The mamsan than told me that the girl wanted 1500 baht. I asked her why? She had no answer and told me that I should speak with the girl and got up and left. I tried to speak and engage with the girl but she seemed adamant. If I go then I go at 1500 baht is all I could hear. I sensed that it was not going to be a good session as she seemed quite fixated on her price rather than anything else. She then got up and went up on the stage to dance. I felt no point in staying or paying 1500 for such attitude hence settled my tab and walked out.

[B] Ruby Bar:
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I walked out and was going towards second road when I saw a hottie. Amazingly slender girl with three star tattoo below her left eye and a sexy smile. I got drawn to her and started talking to her. I asked her if she would like to have a drink to which she nodded and we both moved in. As she walked in front of me I could see her superb butt. I just felt like touching it but controlled myself. We got seated, drinks were ordered. I tried to chat with the girl but she either didn't understand or was just smiling and nodding. I called the passing lady mamasan to check what the issue was. She told me that the girl didn't speak much English. I was ok but then she added that she didn't barfine as well. What a bummer I said to myself. Now we have coyotes in Soi 6 as well. First for me. I somehow finished my drink and was out without wasting any further time. I decided to hit the discos later on in the night and got back to hotel. I didn't go to Mon's bar which I should have.

[B]
Night: 808 & Insomnia[/B]

I got into 808 around 12.30 am. I had seen some really good girls the earlier night. Surprise, none of them were to be seen that night. The bar was much less crowded compared to earlier night. I thought I was early and should wait till after 1 pm. I stayed for approx. 90 minutes but there weren't any good girls. Few oldies and mature hags. Couple of girls in groups but none seem interested or were showing any signs except for partying amongst themselves. Rest all accompanied. I moved around and got to each nook and cranny of the club as the crowd was quite thin. Around 2 pm I decided to head to Insomnia.

Scene inside insomnia was the same. All regulars including Moon were missing. Her stage dancer sister was up there swaying and garnering tequila shots. I did two rounds and couldn't find anything to my taste. I had two beer and waited till 4 am but it was just not working out for me. Surprisingly it seemed like most of the girls had taken a day off on Saturday. I called it a night.

Last night spent alone in Pattaya. Strange and odd but true. Maybe the Problem of Plenty had got to me. I always have myself to blame for being too picky, combing and looking for a specific girl amongst the crowd. But I guess its ok for me.

End of a week and I was out of Pattaya next afternoon, Paid 1000 baht to VR travel guy who was on time and due to some overspeeding got me to Suvarnambhumi in an hour and half, much before my scheduled flight time. God damn that Nissan GTR which overtook him and got his balls on fire in the camry. 555.

[QUOTE=IllusionHeart;1803926]I asked the mamasan about the price. It was 500 for the room and 1000 baht for the girl.[/QUOTE]Wow, 500 baht is already 200 baht over the usual rate and I remember a few years ago it was 1000 baht for the girl [B]and[/B] the room.

[QUOTE=IllusionHeart;1803926]They both started talking in thai and were having a little argument. The mamsan than told me that the girl wanted 1500 baht.[/QUOTE]
No doubt the mamasan, having seen you accepted the 500 baht prime for the room, told the girl to increase her price as well.


You have to look in the mirror: do you have "newbie" wriiten on your forehead? :)

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1803959]You have to look in the mirror: do you have "newbie" wriiten on your forehead? :)[/QUOTE]More like "Good man with big heart".

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1804027]More like "Good man with big heart".[/QUOTE]Or maybe they were hoping "Little head thinking for big head" we have all been there.

SL.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1803959]Wow, 500 baht is already 200 baht over the usual rate and I remember a few years ago it was 1000 baht for the girl [B]and[/B] the room.
[/QUOTE]Every time I've gone with a girl on soi 6 it was 300 for the room and 1000 towards the girl. Don't think I've ever read someone only posting they paid 1000 baht for both the room and the girl.

[QUOTE=IllusionHeart;1803926]
End of a week and I was out of Pattaya next afternoon, Paid 1000 baht to VR travel guy who was on time and due to some overspeeding got me to Suvarnambhumi in an hour and half, much before my scheduled flight time. God damn that Nissan GTR which overtook him and got his balls on fire in the camry. 555.[/QUOTE]Many thanks for a detailed and well-written report.

It was only a couple of years ago (2013) that I remember the Soi Six price was 700 bt for the girl and 300 bt for the room. Now the price is 1000bt plus 300bt. A thirty percent increase. Many Soi Six regulars protested the rate increase at the time and vowed they would never pay it, but guess what? 1300bt is now pretty much the rate except possibly for a small number of well known ex-pats living in Pattaya.

But is anyone contesting or trying to negotiate the price or are you just accepting it and moving on? I reported in July that after I tried to negotiate 600 baht, a girl in King Kong said mamasan would not let her take less than 800.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1804121]But is anyone contesting or trying to negotiate the price or are you just accepting it and moving on? I reported in July that after I tried to negotiate 600 baht, a girl in King Kong said mamasan would not let her take less than 800.[/QUOTE]-Mr E, as a student of Economics and a punter I find the Price Elasticity of Demand for Asian Poontang very interesting. What we have all witnessed for the last 20 years is a phenomenon that no matter how high the asking price for girls goes, aggregate demand for pussy either remains the same or even increases. This is economically fucking amazing. But one thing is for sure; at some point the fundamental laws of supply and demand will kick in and increased price WILL finally have a negative impact on aggregate demand. The problem is no one can predict accurately when the breaking point will occur or how high ST rates will go before it does. I for one will not be surprised if we see 5000 bt for Go Go ST in 5 years. I know - amazing right! But in fact I was very surprised this fall when for the first time I was hit up with a 3000bt ST offer in a very popular Go Go. Here's how it happened: the girl, who I was getting along with fine, called over the mamasan to discuss the barfine and her price. I learned quickly after that to privately discuss price with the girl and to leave the mamasan out of it. But I see the future and predict that by the end of this high season Go Go ST will be moving up to 3000 bt in many popular Go Go's. That's 700bt barfine (in some Agency Go Go's as high as 1500bt) + 3000bt ST + drinks. We live in amazing times.

Should also consider the downturn in the economies and exchange rate of the major players who visit Thailand (China, Japan, Russia and the euro dropping). What effect will that have on excessive asking prices? 4000 baht is a huge price to pay when you consider the number of girls at the nightclubs who will take 2000, beer bar cuties who jump at 1500. If I really like the girl I'm willing to pay the extra on the first pop but when she comes over again after not making enough money the next night or two I cut that amount down.

Anyone know just how much cash a girl gets when you buy her a drink? Too many drinks and she's made enough cash that she doesn't have to barfine. Anyone ever just walk up to a girl, never offer a drink and just barfine her? Walk up to a soi 6 girl and say 'lets go' without any attempt to get to know her for 5 minutes?

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1804148]-...as a student of Economics and a punter I find the Price Elasticity of Demand for Asian Poontang very interesting. What we have all witnessed for the last 20 years is a phenomenon that no matter how high the asking price for girls goes, aggregate demand for pussy either remains the same or even increases. This is economically fucking amazing. [/QUOTE]It is indeed amazing. Similar to Oil. Also, the world population is growing fast (although the growth rate has dropped now to 1. 13%) and scores of young men who have never experienced Thailand will keep the demand end taut. Divorce rates are up (EU at 44% Divorce: Marriage, UK at 47% and USA at 53%) which means more lonely middle aged men looking for "true love". Yep, demand is here to stay.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1804148]....The problem is no one can predict accurately when the breaking point will occur or how high ST rates will go before it does. I for one will not be surprised if we see 5000 bt for Go Go ST in 5 years. I know - amazing right! [/QUOTE]Carrying on from the above points, there is more disposable income in developing nations than ever before. Young men who cannot get laid in their own countries will dish out the asking price willingly. These men can never dream of getting laid with a sexy GoGo chick at even twice the price back home. Hell, there may be no GoGo bars; worse yet, no open P4 P.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1804148]....I was getting along with fine, called over the mamasan to discuss the barfine and her price. I learned quickly after that to privately discuss price with the girl and to leave the mamasan out of it. But I see the future and predict that by the end of this high season Go Go ST will be moving up to 3000 bt in many popular Go Go's. That's 700bt barfine (in some Agency Go Go's as high as 1500bt) + 3000bt ST + drinks. We live in amazing times.[/QUOTE]This is a disturbing trend I have observed over the last 2 seasons and I always insist on doing the negotiations directly with the girl. They have pulled the language card on me a few times before I start to reveal my Thai language capabilities. While some mamasans are really nice, most are greedy fat bitches who will rip off a regular customer without batting an eyelid. Again, possibly demand. Supply economics at play.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1804155]Anyone know just how much cash a girl gets when you buy her a drink? Too many drinks and she's made enough cash that she doesn't have to barfine. Anyone ever just walk up to a girl, never offer a drink and just barfine her? Walk up to a soi 6 girl and say 'lets go' without any attempt to get to know her for 5 minutes?[/QUOTE]I have asked this question to many girls over a period of time but never got a convincing answer. My best estimates put it around 30 - 50% of the lady drink cost. I have tried this approach too, not at Soi 6 but at some of the open bars at WS, 2nd Road & Soi 7. I ask for my drink, find a real pretty face and "I barfine you" in less than 10 minutes at the bar. Its not a big deal IMHO.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1804177]I have asked this question to many girls over a period of time but never got a convincing answer. My best estimates put it around 30 - 50% of the lady drink cost. I have tried this approach too, not at Soi 6 but at some of the open bars at WS, 2nd Road & Soi 7. I ask for my drink, find a real pretty face and "I barfine you" in less than 10 minutes at the bar. Its not a big deal IMHO.[/QUOTE]They get 50 baht from a 150 baht lady drink. Have been told this many times. Also some bars and gogos have a monthly quota system for ladydrink sales. If the individual girl falls short she is fined 50 baht per drink.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1804155] Anyone ever just walk up to a girl, never offer a drink and just barfine her? Walk up to a soi 6 girl and say 'lets go' without any attempt to get to know her for 5 minutes?[/QUOTE]I always skip drink and ladydrink in soi6, just stop outside the bar when I see a girl I like, ask some question and if her answer are right I take her upstair for ST.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1803959]Wow, 500 baht is already 200 baht over the usual rate and I remember a few years ago it was 1000 baht for the girl [B]and[/B] the room.


No doubt the mamasan, having seen you accepted the 500 baht prime for the room, told the girl to increase her price as well.


You have to look in the mirror: do you have "newbie" wriiten on your forehead? :)[/QUOTE]Wolvenvacht,

I don't think I gave any signs of being a newbie neither I am. I liked the girl, talked to her outside and then took her in for a drink. I would have given 200 baht extra for room. I generally don't negotiate on room or barfine costs and take them to be sacrosanct. This was an aberration. I knew that 1000 + 350 was pretty much the price range since last year hence aware that they were asking 200 extra and I was ok.

Issue was that the girl was asking for 50% extra. The room cost was immaterial at that point of time in my decision making process.

[QUOTE=AskeAske;1804110]Many thanks for a detailed and well-written report.[/QUOTE]Thanks mate. Always post with the hope that someone will benefit or avoid the mistakes I would have done on my visit. A clear one was not taking Mons no or going to her bar on the last night as well. No regrets now, plenty of fish awaiting for me in Indonesia and Philippines next month.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1804155] Anyone ever just walk up to a girl, never offer a drink and just barfine her? [/QUOTE]Yes, I've done this many times.

[QUOTE=Llttf;1804223]They get 50 baht from a 150 baht lady drink. Have been told this many times. Also some bars and gogos have a monthly quota system for ladydrink sales. If the individual girl falls short she is fined 50 baht per drink.[/QUOTE]I was told the same thing by many girls over the years. There were times when the frikkin mamasan would not let me take my girl too early, and the answer was always the drink quota. Some girls come to work even when they have their period, just to fulfil their drink quota. When I asked a girl what would happen if a customer wants to barfine you, she said she would dance around the question.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1781313]My limited knowledge on the subject tells me that Sagami 001 is available only in one size, while the 002 comes in mutiple sizes, shapes and colors. I order my stock online from a Japanese website and they take 1 week to deliver (in Singapore). I have not seen them on shelves of pharmacies or even inside sex shops. Apparently the economics of price, demand, supply does not work out for the vendor.[/QUOTE]FWIW I was told the 001 were not approved for sale in Singapore, when I explicitly asked for them there. I have found them available OTC elsewhere in Asia, though.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1789753]But what you don't realize is that when most girls come to Pattaya they start out on Soi 6. So chances are that if you meet a chick elsewhere, such as a gogo then she has already done her time in Soi 6 and learned the lay of the land enough to graduate and venture out to work other places. So actually a Soi 6 girl would more than likely have less mileage on them![/QUOTE]I have some friends who visit Pattaya a lot. They said it's the opposite, that the girls finish at Soi 6.

[QUOTE=HenryR;1789700]Someone on this forum mentioned the Kinnaree Club in Pattaya as a good place. Can someone give details about it, such as location etc? I looked through a bunch of posts here, plus did a search on this forum, but couldn't find it. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I visited it yesterday, although I abstained. The girls are mostly attractive, 7's, some 8's. Prices are 1000 B ST, 350 B barfine.

Drinks are B60, and B120 for ladies drinks. Most of the customers seemed to be Europeans. This is a very nice, classy place. It's not near the beach though, kind of out of the way, so you may need a taxi.

[QUOTE=IllusionHeart;1804432]Wolvenvacht,

I don't think I gave any signs of being a newbie neither I am. I liked the girl, talked to her outside and then took her in for a drink. I would have given 200 baht extra for room. I generally don't negotiate on room or barfine costs and take them to be sacrosanct. This was an aberration. I knew that 1000 + 350 was pretty much the price range since last year hence aware that they were asking 200 extra and I was ok.

Issue was that the girl was asking for 50% extra. The room cost was immaterial at that point of time in my decision making process.[/QUOTE]IllusionHeart,

I know. I was just making fun. And the fact that you did not accept her offer shows you know "the market" quite well.

[QUOTE=HenryR;1804687]I visited it yesterday, although I abstained. The girls are mostly attractive, 7's, some 8's. Prices are 1000 B ST, 350 B barfine.

Drinks are B60, and B120 for ladies drinks. Most of the customers seemed to be Europeans. This is a very nice, classy place. It's not near the beach though, kind of out of the way, so you may need a taxi.[/QUOTE]I visit that place every time I am in Pattaya. When you say 350 bahts barfine, you mean for the room on premise. I've never taken a girl to my hotel room. I assume one can do that, but I just wanted to clarify that they have rooms on the premises. I usually go on Saturdays, when they have barbecue for lunch and they refund you the lunch money if you have a session with a girl.

Indeed, you need a taxi or a baht bus if you know your way around. The place is in Jomtien, or close to it.

[QUOTE=HenryR;1804685]I have some friends who visit Pattaya a lot. They said it's the opposite, that the girls finish at Soi 6.[/QUOTE]What the what! They must not visit too often. One look around and you will know that 1, many girls on Soi 6 do not speak English well if hardly any indicating they have not been around foreigners long enough and 2, the girls on Soi 6 are not old. What I call the hidden away bars around Pattaya is where they finish. For instance, recently I fucked a 40 year old from a bar on Klang 16. She showed me this picture from when she was 28 years old new to Pattaya, and working on Soi 6.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;1804736]I usually go on Saturdays, when they have barbecue for lunch and they refund you the lunch money if you have a session with a girl.

Indeed, you need a taxi or a baht bus if you know your way around. The place is in Jomtien, or close to it.[/QUOTE]Kinnaree is in Pratumnak (Little Russia), which is between South Pattaya and Jomtien. The last time I was there I ate a barbecue pork sandwich that was so damn good. It filled me up. There was no way that I could take a girl after that. Next time I know to fuck first and eat later.

[QUOTE=PuteNut;1804618]FWIW I was told the 001 were not approved for sale in Singapore, when I explicitly asked for them there. I have found them available OTC elsewhere in Asia, though.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the information, I will check next time I travel, which should be very soon.

I have asked explicitly for the 001 too across a range of pharmacies and even sex shops. No one ever told me about the "not approved for sale" bit. I really don't care much, as my supplies from the Japanese online retailer are fairly steady.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1804102]Every time I've gone with a girl on soi 6 it was 300 for the room and 1000 towards the girl. Don't think I've ever read someone only posting they paid 1000 baht for both the room and the girl.[/QUOTE]Only took a girl on soi 6 twice. First time was about 3 years ago and it was 1000 all in (300 room cost, 700 for the girl). The second time was early this year and it was 300 plus 1000. I also confirmed this with a guy I know who owns a bar on soi 6. So 1300 is the going rate as of late last year to early this year.

Having mentioned all of that it is also important to note that the girls part can always be negotiated. Especially if she knows you or if she likes you or if her rent is due (LOL). But most guys don't have enough time for all of that when they are visiting. Might as well just pay the increased rate and enjoy yourself.

[QUOTE=HenryR;1804687]I visited it yesterday, although I abstained. The girls are mostly attractive, 7's, some 8's. Prices are 1000 B ST, 350 B barfine.

Drinks are B60, and B120 for ladies drinks. Most of the customers seemed to be Europeans. This is a very nice, classy place. It's not near the beach though, kind of out of the way, so you may need a taxi.[/QUOTE]Heard about this place sometime ago and yesterday me and my friend went along to have look. It's about half way down Soi 5 you need to go into a smaller Soi on the right side as you go down.

We was a bit later arriving we soon had a couple of half decent ones on to us we duly obliged 350 + 1000 as they was getting to the end of their shift about 6 or 7 pm so was rushing us along usual story rooms get full.

Very professional ladies who if your not careful quickly take control and before you know it its all over done and dusted.

One very striking thing was when we left a lot young men hanging around outside obviously waiting for their beloved cash machine to finish up and divvy out the earnings which is probably 4 or 5000 a day at least.

All in all not a bad option if you compare it to your average FKK.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;1804736]I visit that place every time I am in Pattaya. When you say 350 bahts barfine, you mean for the room on premise. I've never taken a girl to my hotel room. I assume one can do that, but I just wanted to clarify that they have rooms on the premises. I usually go on Saturdays, when they have barbecue for lunch and they refund you the lunch money if you have a session with a girl.

Indeed, you need a taxi or a baht bus if you know your way around. The place is in Jomtien, or close to it.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I meant one of the rooms at the Kinnaree Club is B 350. I didn't ask what the deal is for taking a girl out. Does anyone know?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1804749]What the what! They must not visit too often. One look around and you will know that 1, many girls on Soi 6 do not speak English well if hardly any indicating they have not been around foreigners long enough and 2, the girls on Soi 6 are not old. What I call the hidden away bars around Pattaya is where they finish. For instance, recently I fucked a 40 year old from a bar on Klang 16. She showed me this picture from when she was 28 years old new to Pattaya, and working on Soi 6.[/QUOTE]Actually, what you wrote makes sense. Maybe my friends are wrong. By the way, 2 Go Go Bars opened on Soi 6. Very close to each other. One is named Passions, can't remember the name of the other one, which is a few doors down. Both have good looking dancers. I took one to my hotel for LT. This is kind of surprising. Soi 6 is the last place in Pattaya where I would have expected to find all nighters. It seemed to me in the past to be just for "quickies". But I guess the go go bars there are much different than the other Soi 6 bars.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1804853]Only took a girl on soi 6 twice. First time was about 3 years ago and it was 1000 all in (300 room cost, 700 for the girl). The second time was early this year and it was 300 plus 1000. I also confirmed this with a guy I know who owns a bar on soi 6. So 1300 is the going rate as of late last year to early this year.

Having mentioned all of that it is also important to note that the girls part can always be negotiated. Especially if she knows you or if she likes you or if her rent is due (LOL). But most guys don't have enough time for all of that when they are visiting. Might as well just pay the increased rate and enjoy yourself.[/QUOTE]I'm in Pattaya now. My previous visit was in 2012. In 2012, a girl at a Soi 6 bar charged me higher than the standard rate. I assumed it's because I'm older. So the girls may have two rates, depending on their customer. The room rate stays the same.

[QUOTE=HenryR;1805507]Soi 6 is the last place in Pattaya where I would have expected to find all nighters. It seemed to me in the past to be just for "quickies". But I guess the go go bars there are much different than the other Soi 6 bars.[/QUOTE]You can take a girl from any bar on Soi 6 LT. With my experience this is when it is easier to negotiate a price. I think the barfine is fixed at 500 baht before midnight but after it goes down to 300. Then you negotiate the rest with the girl. And don't be afraid to negotiate. As I reported before a girl told me to just give her whatever I wanted (which is always 1000 LT) and another guy a few months ago told a girl that he would pay the bar fine but he was not going to give her any money. That was cool with her.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1805524]You can take a girl from any bar on Soi 6 LT. With my experience this is when it is easier to negotiate a price. I think the barfine is fixed at 500 baht before midnight but after it goes down to 300. Then you negotiate the rest with the girl. And don't be afraid to negotiate. [/QUOTE]That's also my experience. I note that some posters say that many girls won't do LT, but in my view this is not correct. Having said that, the girls are not machines. A lot depends on whether they like you. If they do not they will not come on to you. If, nevertheless, you tap them on the shoulder and ask for their rates they'll do their job (otherwise they're in trouble with the mamasan) and go upstairs. But they will be unwilling to sleep in your bed, and the bar won't force them to do so. My best advice would be to just sit down in the bar and see what girls are trying to "seduce" you. If you fancy one of those, have a drink. Then negotiate. If she makes the first move there's room for plenty of negotiation.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1804749]One look around and you will know that 1, many girls on Soi 6 do not speak English well if hardly any indicating they have not been around foreigners long enough and 2, the girls on Soi 6 are not old.[/QUOTE]Yes, I agree. I have asked around one a couple of occasions to know how my various "girlfriends" had ended up on Soi 6, and it seems that a large portion have been recruited in factories in Bangkok. The usual trail is, they move from Isaan to BKK in search of work and an income, but are disappointed with the low pay, the backbreaking work and the high prices of the city. Then someone whispers in their ear that they could multiply their earnings by coming to Pattaya. - And mum and dad need never know how the money they send home was earned.

[QUOTE=Priamos;1805531]Yes, I agree. I have asked around one a couple of occasions to know how my various "girlfriends" had ended up on Soi 6, and it seems that a large portion have been recruited in factories in Bangkok. The usual trail is, they move from Isaan to BKK in search of work and an income, but are disappointed with the low pay, the backbreaking work and the high prices of the city. Then someone whispers in their ear that they could multiply their earnings by coming to Pattaya. - And mum and dad need never know how the money they send home was earned.[/QUOTE]I would agree with your basic scenario but I believe there is one step missing in it; the discouraged former Bangkok factory girl tries her hand at earning that higher paycheck in Bangkok's P4 P scene first. When she fails to compete and make a go of it in Bangkok, that is when she moves to Pattaya to see if her lower level of skills, looks and commitment to the job might be suitable for Pattaya standards even if they are not suitable for Bangkok standards. 555. My Humble Opinion and observation of the Pattaya scene vs the Bangkok scene at least.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;1805541]I would agree with your basic scenario but I believe there is one step missing in it; the discouraged former Bangkok factory girl tries her hand at earning that higher paycheck in Bangkok's P4 P scene first. When she fails to compete and make a go of it in Bangkok, that is when she moves to Pattaya to see if her lower level of skills, looks and commitment to the job might be suitable for Pattaya standards even if they are not suitable for Bangkok standards. 555. My Humble Opinion and observation of the Pattaya scene vs the Bangkok scene at least.[/QUOTE]Well, that would account for the generally poor linguistic skills in Pattaya. LOL. Bar girls in Bangkok, even the young ones, are generally much better at entertaining guests in English than their "sisters" in Pattaya.

[QUOTE=HenryR;1805511]I'm in Pattaya now. My previous visit was in 2012. In 2012, a girl at a Soi 6 bar charged me higher than the standard rate. I assumed it's because I'm older. So the girls may have two rates, depending on their customer. The room rate stays the same.[/QUOTE]Many many years ago, there was a website (sadly I lost the link) that estimated the girl's fee based upon a number of parameters (ST / LT; Soi 6/ BR / gogo / massage place; incall / outcall; services requested; . . .) and one of the parameters was indeed the age of the punter.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1805524] I think the barfine is fixed at 500 baht before midnight but after it goes down to 300.[/QUOTE]The bars don't have a fixed BF price for long time. Some bars ask for 800/1000 baht for BF a girl LT before midnight. I have a friend that pick up a lady LT in Sky Bar (800 baht BF for LT) and he also ask in Lisa Bar how much is the BF for LT and they said is 1000 baht.

I know Red Point ask for 500 baht BF if you want a ST in your hotel, I don't know how much they ask for BF longtime.

[QUOTE=Priamos;1805528], the girls are not machines. A lot depends on whether they like you. If they do not they will not come on to you. If, nevertheless, you tap them on the shoulder and ask for their rates they'll do their job (otherwise they're in trouble with the mamasan) and go upstairs. But they will be unwilling to sleep in your bed, and the bar won't force them to do so. My best advice would be to just sit down in the bar and see what girls are trying to "seduce" you. If you fancy one of those, have a drink. Then negotiate. If she makes the first move there's room for plenty of negotiation.[/QUOTE]Excellent advice!

[QUOTE=HenryR;1805507]Actually, what you wrote makes sense. Maybe my friends are wrong. [/QUOTE]I don't think your friends are wrong.

[QUOTE=ChristianG;1805569]The bars don't have a fixed BF price for long time. Some bars ask for 800/1000 baht for BF a girl LT before midnight. I have a friend that pick up a lady LT in Sky Bar (800 baht BF for LT)[/QUOTE]I am not at all too familiar with the other bars, but my buddy owns Sky Bar. I knew him before he had a bar and was coming over from Korea to monger. I was also there when he took the cash over and bought the adjoining bar. I have never heard of an 800 baht bar fine there. Could be possible though if you are taking the girl at 6 pm.

[QUOTE=ChristianG;1805569]The bars don't have a fixed BF price for long time. Some bars ask for 800/1000 baht for BF a girl LT before midnight. I have a friend that pick up a lady LT in Sky Bar (800 baht BF for LT) and he also ask in Lisa Bar how much is the BF for LT and they said is 1000 baht.

I know Red Point ask for 500 baht BF if you want a ST in your hotel, I don't know how much they ask for BF longtime.[/QUOTE]That's right. Each bar can make their own price from barfining the girl to leave the bar.

To go upstairs is set at 300. To have the girl leave the bar to go to your hotel is not the same.

There were some British guys staying here 2 months ago. One night, they each brought girls back. One of the girls had a nice round ass. The next day I asked him where he found his girl. He said soi 6. What was the barfine, 800.

[QUOTE=HenryR;1805505]Sorry, I meant one of the rooms at the Kinnaree Club is B 350. I didn't ask what the deal is for taking a girl out. Does anyone know?[/QUOTE]I have a buddy here who owns a bar. He has been here for many years. He took me to Kinarree for my first time about 3 years ago. We spent a few hours there, drinking, buying girls drinks, and mamasan too. On that evening, we asked the 2 girls who were sitting with us to come back with us to his house. We told them his house is only a 2-3 minutes from the club. It was within an hour of closing time and they (the girls) wanted extra baht just for going to his place. In addition to the cost of banging them. We both looked at each other and said no that's too much. Keep in mind, the girls at Kinarree are freelance. They can come and leave as they choose. We told the girls how much we would donate and added that the place is closing soon and we can just meet in 30 minutes when the place closes. They didn't want to do it. Guess they didn't need to the money. Never mind. Move on to walking street and get another one. ;-)

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1805524]....another guy a few months ago told a girl that he would pay the bar fine but he was not going to give her any money. That was cool with her.[/QUOTE]I get the idea that one can negotiate but I really don't get it when someone does not want to pay at all. Picture this. Whatever it is that you do for a living, imagine if the buyer did not want to pay for the work you did, would that be acceptable to you? "You" in this context is a generalized address and not directed at you Mr E.

The poor lass probably agreed hoping to get a decent tip at the end of the job. And I sure hope the bloke paid her a tip. Else I would wish for his nuts to shrivel up and fall off.

I really enjoyed kinarree place. The girls were extremely friendly and service was decent. Ended up going 3 x on my trip and would have been more if I had visited earlier in my trip. I really liked Kund and another girl who has a similar look with blonde hair. Found it a better afternoon option than soi 6.

Most girls arrive around 3 and only work til 7 so time your visits accordingly.

Taxi to and from central festival is 200 baht each way, no negotiation. I would guess you can baht bus to the bottom of the hill and negotiate a cheaper taxi fare.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1805868]I get the idea that one can negotiate but I really don't get it when someone does not want to pay at all. Picture this. Whatever it is that you do for a living, imagine if the buyer did not want to pay for the work you did, would that be acceptable to you?[/QUOTE]My exact thoughts. If you want a free girl then go find a normal chick. If a chick is a Soi 6 bar girl then you obviously know why she is there. Maybe she did it because the guy was taking her out to party. You will be surprised how many Soi 6 girls have never been to Walking Street. So to her it could have been looked upon as a treat.

[QUOTE=Amjeck;1805656]I don't think your friends are wrong.[/QUOTE]Could you explain why? Mr Enternational's arguments seemed to make sense. (He says girls start at Soi 6, then move up. My friends said the opposite, that girls end up at Soi 6). By the way, the names of the 2 new Go Go bars on Soi 6 are "Dolls" and "Passions". They are a few doors down from each other. The girls there dance on stage, like at Go Go bars on Walking street. Went to both. A waitress (not a go go dancer) at Dolls dances near the customers, not on stage, and gyrates like crazy. She's good looking too. Most guys are probably dying to do her. But I think she's just a tease.

I was just there, found Poy at viking bar. Very young and farm fresh looking. Cute. 500 BF ,1500 LT. No make up slightly used flip flops. Simple but very innocent looking jumper. Simple cloth bag. From Isan. Went to a few bars had a few drinks. She started at Mistys, so we went and had drinks with her friends there. So much for starting out on soi 6. Poy's service was surprisingly good, especially when considering the fact that we had a lot of drinks before.

It would not surprise me if many who start out on soi 6 end up back there later on.

[QUOTE=HenryR;1806097]Could you explain why? Mr Enternational's arguments seemed to make sense. [/QUOTE]The original argument implied that most girls working in Pattaya start off on soi 6. This is not true. Some do start off there, however, the vast majority of the thousands of girls working in Pattaya did not enter through soi 6.

One thing is true, however, if a girl happens to start off on soi 6 and she is young, slim, pretty, and a not a mother, odds are very good she will move up into a high priced gogo.

That's true, the nice young girls tend not to stick around Soi 6 for long. They trade up to a go-go or other higher-end place, or some of them find sponsors.

But Soi 6 also attracts all kinds of other girls, though usually not for too long. For example it gets quite a few older bargirls who have worked elsewhere but are now a bit past their sell-by date. There are also part-timers who just drop in when they need money. And sometimes you even get girls who have come there from the go-gos. I knew one who used to come into work at Soi 6 a couple times a week whenever she felt like it. She was hot enough that she could easily do three or four sessions by dinner time, make herself a few thousand baht, and go home. She said she preferred that to working nights at the go-go. All part of the wonderful variety of this soi.

[QUOTE=Betong;1806344]For example it gets quite a few older bargirls who have worked elsewhere but are now a bit past their sell-by date. [/QUOTE]I've found much more of these types and mothers working on the soi than previous years.

[QUOTE=TellAll;1773677]Relax. You can find LT pretty much in all the clubs and bars. I don't have a problem finding it and you shouldn't either.[/QUOTE]I have been finding LT at Go Go bars in Pattaya. I heard many, many years ago that few of the go go dancers in Pattaya do LT. I guess that's changed. It's not all that hard now. Actually, Baccarat in Pattaya has a menu of all their prices. It includes LT on the menu. Their price is unusually high, compared to girls at other bars. Last night I paid B3000 LT plus barfine for a girl on a Walking street go go bar. Good to know that LT is available. Prices vary a lot though, depending on the girl and the bar. But it is often available.

[QUOTE=Amjeck;1806351]I've found much more of these types and mothers working on the soi than previous years.[/QUOTE]Yup, sweet young pre-kid women are pretty much an endangered species on Soi 6 these days. Ah well, if you spend enough time poking around, you can usually still find something good enough. And at the price, I suppose it's hard to complain.

[QUOTE=HenryR;1806389]I have been finding LT at Go Go bars in Pattaya. I heard many, many years ago that few of the go go dancers in Pattaya do LT. I guess that's changed. It's not all that hard now. Actually, Baccarat in Pattaya has a menu of all their prices. It includes LT on the menu. Their price is unusually high, compared to girls at other bars. Last night I paid B3000 LT plus barfine for a girl on a Walking street go go bar. Good to know that LT is available. Prices vary a lot though, depending on the girl and the bar. But it is often available.[/QUOTE]Everything is available. No exceptions. If the girl doesn't want to go LT, that's a good indication that either she doesn't like the guy (and is only looking get some money) or she ha some other commitment on the side, ie. A boyfriend, baby at home, or some other crap. I would NEVER pay a high barfine for only ST. There is no value is paying an 800 baht or 1000 baht barfine and only get ST. In 4 years I probably paid less than 10 barfines. Only 3 of those were on the high end from a gogo. The rest were just 300 baht from a bar.

One other thing, forget about a 'menu' in a gogo. Each gogo has their prices for barfines, that fine. But the cost for the girl, is between the man and the girl. I don't care what they tell me in the place. I always negotiate with the girl separately. It doesn't matter if she works in a bar or a gogo. Rhetorical question. Why give the gogo 3000 baht for the girl? If you pay the barfine, the girl can leave with you. You can pay her the next day (after the morning or afternoon sex). Plus the girl now has her money to do as she pleases.

Tip. You can find the same girls walking down walking street in the evening hours and you can also find them in the clubs (no barfines). For 3000 baht you can have 2 girls from a club for all night. And 1000 baht barfine fee, that you did not give the gogo, can be used to buy drinks in the club. ;)

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1806669]You can find the same girls walking down walking street in the evening hours and you can also find them in the clubs (no barfines). For 3000 baht you can have 2 girls from a club for all night. And 1000 baht barfine fee, that you did not give the gogo, can be used to buy drinks in the club. ;)[/QUOTE]Of course, the catch is that you then have to wait until 2 or 3 AM before they leave their bars or agogo-clubs. By that time I'm already long satisfied and asleep with a cute SYT in my arms. And which girls are available at that hour? Indeed, those who failed to get chosen for LT or girls who did a few ST already. Speaking of "sloppy seconds".

You can get lucky of course and your choice is certainly stilll out there ... somewhere, but I find it tedious to still hunt at that hour and spend my time in noisy disco's.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1806696]Of course, the catch is that you then have to wait until 2 or 3 AM before they leave their clubs. You can get lucky of course and your choice is certainly stilll out there ... somewhere, but I find it tedious to still hunt at that hour and spend my time in noisy disco's.[/QUOTE]Good point, Wolvenvacht. Time is money. So I acknowledge that I usually pay the rack rate for an early (8 to midnight) affair because that is what I want. I never feel like waiting until 3 or 4 or 5 am to satisfy my desires. Forget that! But if I happen to be up and looking around at this time of the night, usually because I just arrived in town or I want another dish after my first ST has gone, then I am real glad there are options at that time in the morning. But I never delay my fun to save 1000 bht. My time is worth more than that.

Now when I was a strapping youth roaming around Central and South America at the age of 22 to 26 with minimal funds at my disposal, I used to have a great time in towns like San Jose, Cartagena, and Bogota. Back then I took a youthful pride in never paying for my poontang. I would go to my favorite bars / Go Go's around 11 pm, have a beer, and arrange to meet a girl later around the corner after closing time. My approach never failed back then and the girls never asked me for money. I think they were a little lonely and wanted to pretend that I was their gringo boyfriend. But as I got older, it took more and more effort to get the hot young ones for free, although I could still nail the older ones gratis with little effort. Ha Ha. At around the same time I started making real money in the USA and I realized it was't worth the effort anymore. That is when I began to pay the girls. Fast forward several decades; I am on the other side of 50 and I now think P4P is better not only because it is so easy and I can afford it, but also because no one is under an illusions and no one can get hurt.

On ST vs LT: I think guys should take whichever option they want, but I prefer ST for the first time that I am with a new girl. Sometimes a girl will ask me which option I want and I tell her "ST is better until we get to know each other" and that is the truth. I know from experience that if everything is good between us, I can ask the girl to stay longer and she will most likely agree to it unless she really has something else to do. I also know that I can always make arrangements to do a LT on our next get together. I can't recall more than 2 or 3 Go Go girls that did not want to do LT with me after our first night together. The benefit to me of selecting ST the first time is that I am never stuck paying for time I do not want in the event that the girl is not what I thought she was going to be and I never have to ask her to leave. To paraphrase Forrest Gump, barfining a girl is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you are going to get until you shag her. Interestingly, I think that some Go Go girls probably think the same way about us and that may be a prime reason they do not want to do LT when they first meet a customer. The moral of the story is: take it slow, treat them right and the good ones will return the favor many times over.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1806720]The moral of the story is: take it slow, treat them right and the good ones will return the favor many times over.[/QUOTE]That's the way to do it!

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1806696]Of course, the catch is that you then have to wait until 2 or 3 AM before they leave their bars or agogo-clubs. By that time I'm already long satisfied and asleep with a cute SYT in my arms. And which girls are available at that hour? Indeed, those who failed to get chosen for LT or girls who did a few ST already. Speaking of "sloppy seconds".

You can get lucky of course and your choice is certainly stilll out there ... somewhere, but I find it tedious to still hunt at that hour and spend my time in noisy disco's.[/QUOTE]I prefer to go out after 11 pm. And I like the club vibe. Plus no bar fines and no lady drinks (although when I do go to a gogo, I have no problem buying a girl a drink or two and collecting a few phone numbers). So there is no catch for me. There are a ton, and I mean a ton, of girls who freelance and don't work in the gogos. Easily 200+ girls in the clubs after 11. So you have actually more choices at the club. No sloppy seconds about it because they are just getting out (like me).

The expensive ass gogo girl could have gone ST already and come back by the time you took her too. You see it all the time. Girls do plenty of ST action at the gogos and come right back. Some gogos even have ST rooms upstairs.

Excellent analysis. Very valuable advice here for the starry eyed men visiting mongering destinations. Takeaways for me are.

1. Time is the most important variable.

2. Treat people well and it will come around.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1806720]...if I happen to be up and looking around at this time of the night, usually because I just arrived in town or I want another dish after my first ST has gone, then I am real glad there are options at that time in the morning. [/QUOTE]Normally, on such occasions I would make a few booty calls and make arrangements so that I don't have to go hunting at an odd hour.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1806720]...I am on the other side of 50 and I now think P4P is better not only because it is so easy and I can afford it, but also because no one is under an illusions and no one can get hurt.[/QUOTE]I am reminded of a line from South Park. Goes like this. "That's not why you pay a prostitute. No, you don't pay her to stay, you pay her to leave afterwards" This was used in several other movies and situations and buy several other people including the infamous Charlie Sheen. But it is true.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1806720]Good point, Wolvenvacht. Time is money. So I acknowledge that I usually pay the rack rate for an early (8 to midnight) affair because that is what I want. I never feel like waiting until 3 or 4 or 5 am to satisfy my desires. Forget that! But if I happen to be up and looking around at this time of the night, usually because I just arrived in town or I want another dish after my first ST has gone, then I am real glad there are options at that time in the morning. But I never delay my fun to save 1000 bht. My time is worth more than that.
[/QUOTE]I completely agree with Nattys MO on BF a girl early rather then waiting out to save 1000 baht. In PYX I have always BF a girl from a bar early in the night i.e. from 8 to 10 pm and this MO till now has proven quite successful for me.

Another experiment which I tried this time was hitting the discos for pickup which was quite late I. E after 1 am when its crowded and choices are available. Chances are you might get lucky easily and find a gem or a hottie as per your liking. For a person like me it didn't turn out well on the last night. I just couldn't find a girl I wanted and was available in the 3 to 4 hours I spent at Insomnia and 808. Am I picky, yes and extreme at times but then one bad day ruined it for me. Who would have expected girls to be thin in attendance on a Saturday night, but It did happen with me. Would I try this again, hell no unless I am willing to sleep alone.

Coming back, I would rather follow the established MO of BF a girl earlier and pay that 1000 baht extra. If she's good she stays till morning. If not then she leaves and I can take the chance of hitting out nightspots and being choosy or picky on the next one.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1806720] ... I never feel like waiting until 3 or 4 or 5 am to satisfy my desires. Forget that! But if I happen to be up and looking around at this time of the night, usually because I just arrived in town or I want another dish after my first ST has gone, then I am real glad there are options at that time in the morning. But I never delay my fun to save 1000 bht. My time is worth more than that... [/QUOTE]I wasn't saying someone should wait until the late hours to find a girl. More of letting folks know that the same girls are available afterwards. No one need to delay their fun. Its all about when you want to go out and how horny you are at that time. In either case, even though I have the funds, I am not one to pay a 1000 baht barfine and a 3000 baht price tag. I like to go to club, have a few drinks, and grab one for 1500 (that's 2500 less). Plus I am having fun with the girl in the club and I get to screen her while we are drinking and hanging out. When in need for some early evening action then the bars are the perfect option. Of course it help to know which bars have the girl you like. So take note while out and about then swing by and get 'them.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1807066]I wasn't saying someone should wait until the late hours to find a girl. More of letting folks know that the same girls are available afterwards. When in need for some early evening action then the bars are the perfect option. Of course it help to know which bars have the girl you like. So take note while out and about then swing by and get 'them.[/QUOTE]If late night works for you then great. IBar & Club Insomnia is a place I like to go when I am in the mood and still looking.

In BKK I sometimes hit Climax on Soi 11. IMHO it is not as good a pick up bar as IBar because its too dark. The last time I went to Climax I left after only one drink and without a girl. It was around 2am. I slowly walked down Soi 11 and met the owner of a massage parlor and a couple of her girls. The owner was 35, but still attractive and in pretty good shape. She tried to interest me in one of her girls, but for some reason I took a fancy to her. Long story short; I shagged the mamasan and had a good time. LOL. So yeah there are a lot of opportunities in BKK and Pattaya late at night. In fact the later it gets the crazier everything seems, but generally I prefer to hook up with my Go Go girls early and spend 4 or 5 hours with them before I let them go. I do this in BKK, Pattaya, and Manila.

In Jakarta I prefer to pick up girls in FL bars like CJ's which is similar to but much better than Spasso or Mixx in BKK. The CJ FL's prefer LT over ST so its a long rewarding night from 11pm when I walk into the bar to 9 or 10am when they leave my hotel.

[QUOTE=IllusionHeart;1806946]I completely agree with Nattys MO on BF a girl early rather then waiting out to save 1000 baht. In PYX I have always BF a girl from a bar early in the night i.e. from 8 to 10 pm and this MO till now has proven quite successful for me.
[/QUOTE]If it is slow season I often found that barfining a girl early that she would be likely to ring you up later in the night asking if she could come back over.

Might be of interest to some:

[URL]http://www.inspirepattaya.com/pattaya/hooters-girls-recruitment-pageant-mixx-discotheque-sunday-6th-december-2015/[/URL]

SL.

I have heard that ladyboys give the best blow job in Thailand. Haven't had the experience.

I am planning to stay in Pataya for five days in end of Jan.

Please let me know where to find the most beautiful ladyboys.

I am an orgy player so would like to know if there are places like FKK where you can fuck in the same hall with turns.

If any senior guy is coming towards Colombo let me know. I should be able to help you out.

Cheers.

JFJ.

Your asking this question on the wrong website. Get your flame retardant suit out.

[QUOTE=JackForJill;1807242]I have heard that ladyboys give the best blow job in Thailand. Haven't had the experience.

I am planning to stay in Pataya for five days in end of Jan.

Please let me know where to find the most beautiful ladyboys.

I am an orgy player so would like to know if there are places like FKK where you can fuck in the same hall with turns.

If any senior guy is coming towards Colombo let me know. I should be able to help you out.

Cheers.

JFJ.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JackForJill;1807242]I have heard that ladyboys give the best blow job in Thailand. Haven't had the experience.

I am planning to stay in Pataya for five days in end of Jan.

Please let me know where to find the most beautiful ladyboys.

I am an orgy player so would like to know if there are places like FKK where you can fuck in the same hall with turns.

If any senior guy is coming towards Colombo let me know. I should be able to help you out.

Cheers.

JFJ.[/QUOTE]I am not a ladyboy fan, but if you like living on the wild side, look for the high cheekboned, perfect boobed, beautiful LBs on beach road.

But hiding your wallet might be a good idea. And all the best.

Nearest and easiest you can get to orgy play, is at Devils den- they can satisfy your BBBJ fantasy too.

Feel like a porn star!!

NM.

[QUOTE=JackForJill;1807242]( . . . deleted some LB stuff . . . )

I am an orgy player so would like to know if there are places like FKK where you can fuck in the same hall with turns.
[/QUOTE]That's not something you are likely to find in Thailand. In places like Devil's Den (or Eden Club in Bangkok) you can easily get more than one lady (it is even their standard MO) but many guys playing with many ladies in one room - indeed an orgy "Old Roman" style - is not readily available.

If you want that you will have you organise it yourself: rent a villa, hire 20 girls and invite all your friends. And be probably raided by the Police. A few years ago there was this case of a farang couple who offered "swinger" parties and was arrested for their efforts.

[QUOTE=JackForJill;1807242]I have heard that ladyboys give the best blow job in Thailand. Haven't had the experience.

I am planning to stay in Pataya for five days in end of Jan.

Please let me know where to find the most beautiful ladyboys.

I am an orgy player so would like to know if there are places like FKK where you can fuck in the same hall with turns.

If any senior guy is coming towards Colombo let me know. I should be able to help you out.

Cheers.

JFJ.[/QUOTE]Discussion of LBs and TVs is not allowed on this forum, as far as I know.

If you want all the nitty gritty info I'd recommend the Pattaya Addicts forum (google it) where they allow discussion of this topic in all its gory details. 555.

[QUOTE=JackForJill;1807242]I have heard that ladyboys give the best blow job in Thailand. Haven't had the experience.

I am planning to stay in Pataya for five days in end of Jan.

Please let me know where to find the most beautiful ladyboys.

I am an orgy player so would like to know if there are places like FKK where you can fuck in the same hall with turns.

If any senior guy is coming towards Colombo let me know. I should be able to help you out.

Cheers.

JFJ.[/QUOTE]Everybody is being pretty civil to this point. But this could get interesting.

Hi all,

I am planning a trip to Pattaya in Feb 2016 with a friend, I did some research and narrowed down to following list:

Hotel Name Joiners Allowed Estimate Cost for 2 rooms for 5 days.

Citin Garden Resort Yes $ 300 Include Breakfast.

Bombay Magic Suites NotSure $ 240 no breakfast.

B2 South Pattaya Yes $ 240 Include Breakfast.

Super Bed Otel Yes $ 225 no breakfast.

Manita Boutique Yes $ 360 no breakfast.

Sunshine No $ 360 NO breakfast.

Golden Sea Pattaya Yes $ 330 Include Breakfast.

Need suggestion if this is OK?

Sorry for starting a discussion on ladyboys if not allowed here.

THanks all for replies. If you are down to Colombo and a senior member I might be able to help you.

Cheers.

JFJ.

[QUOTE=MahendraBahuba;1807508]Hi all,

I am planning a trip to Pattaya in Feb 2016 with a friend, I did some research and narrowed down to following list:


Need suggestion if this is OK?[/QUOTE]A few quick pointers:

1. First, this post belongs in the hotel thread of the Pattaya board.

2. All hotels in Pattaya are girl friendly. Some may ask for a joiner fee but no hotel will refuse a guest. Take note of the age limits prescribed by different hotels. The hotels thread has all this information and more.

3. the estimated rates are all good and the hotels shortlisted appear to be 3 star. Unless you are one of those early risers avoid breakfast. Most hotels shut the breakfast buffet by 10 am and the spread is not all that attractive. That said, you are never too far away from a good eating joint in Pattaya.

4. End of the day, choose the hotel that offers best location & access with respect to the action areas. So anything on Beach Road, 2nd Road, Soi Buakhaow should be good bets. Beach road, if you like the beach, is the best bet.

Team,

Has anyone ever spent Christmas in Pattaya or new years? I am thinking about booking my first Christmas time trip. But, heard it is very busy at that time. I worry, I will not be able to get a room. I was also researching online and read girls charge an extra 500 baut for short time? I don't know if that is true. Is the whole month of January hard to get a cheap room as well? I been to Thailand many times just never on a major holiday. If Thailand is too busy at that time I was thinking Vietnam but worry the girls all go back home for a week from the hot tocs. That defeats the whole purpose of my trip.

Thanks

[QUOTE=TomSf;1807786]Team,

Has anyone ever spent Christmas in Pattaya or new years? I am thinking about booking my first Christmas time trip. But, heard it is very busy at that time. I worry, I will not be able to get a room. I was also researching online and read girls charge an extra 500 baut for short time? I don't know if that is true. Is the whole month of January hard to get a cheap room as well? I been to Thailand many times just never on a major holiday. If Thailand is too busy at that time I was thinking Vietnam but worry the girls all go back home for a week from the hot tocs. That defeats the whole purpose of my trip.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Other than the hotels charging High Season prices, I have never run into the problems you mention. This is not a Christian Country.

Hi Everone,

I've booked my holiday for end of January visit to Pattaya. This is my 2nd visit. I would really appreciate if senior members can share some trusted girls number with me please.

Happy mongering.

[QUOTE=TomSf;1807786]Team,

Has anyone ever spent Christmas in Pattaya or new years? I am thinking about booking my first Christmas time trip. But, heard it is very busy at that time. I worry, I will not be able to get a room. I was also researching online and read girls charge an extra 500 baut for short time? I don't know if that is true. Is the whole month of January hard to get a cheap room as well? I been to Thailand many times just never on a major holiday. If Thailand is too busy at that time I was thinking Vietnam but worry the girls all go back home for a week from the hot tocs. That defeats the whole purpose of my trip.

Thanks[/QUOTE]I was in Thailand back in Dec 2013 and brought in the New Year in Pattaya. Everything gets expensive by say 20%. The price of drinks remain the same, but hotel tariff, bar fines and ST / LT charges go up. This is not because of some strategic pricing model but simply due to demand / supply. No one wants to go back to the hotel "alone" during these days.

Soi 6 charges remain the same if you want in-house services but if you want to take the girl out of the bar then the higher prices apply.

This has been my experience. However, with all the present economic challenges faced by Russia and the prevalent general security concerns in the region it may be different this year. But then Thai logic says charge more during "low season" and that is an entirely different story!

[QUOTE=TomSf;1807786]Has anyone ever spent Christmas in Pattaya or new years? I am thinking about booking my first Christmas time trip. I was also researching online and read girls charge an extra 500 baut for short time?[/QUOTE]How is this possible when this is SEA and prices are negotiated? There are no set prices on women (unless you are in a soapie) that say 3000 baht and 3500 baht during the end of December. Either party starts with a price and the other party counters it until they come to a happy medium and walk off together hand in hand. I do not know of too many instances where the first price given is expected to be taken.

[QUOTE=TomSf;1807786]Team,

Has anyone ever spent Christmas in Pattaya or new years? I am thinking about booking my first Christmas time trip. But, heard it is very busy at that time. I worry, I will not be able to get a room. I was also researching online and read girls charge an extra 500 baut for short time? I don't know if that is true. Is the whole month of January hard to get a cheap room as well? I been to Thailand many times just never on a major holiday. If Thailand is too busy at that time I was thinking Vietnam but worry the girls all go back home for a week from the hot tocs. That defeats the whole purpose of my trip.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Never noticed this but the AGOGO's will up the barfine on New Years Eve.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1807913]I was in Thailand back in Dec 2013 and brought in the New Year in Pattaya. Everything gets expensive by say 20%. The price of drinks remain the same, but hotel tariff, bar fines and ST / LT charges go up. This is not because of some strategic pricing model but simply due to demand / supply. No one wants to go back to the hotel "alone" during these days.

Soi 6 charges remain the same if you want in-house services but if you want to take the girl out of the bar then the higher prices apply.

This has been my experience. However, with all the present economic challenges faced by Russia and the prevalent general security concerns in the region it may be different this year. But then Thai logic says charge more during "low season" and that is an entirely different story![/QUOTE]Just stop accepting everything they ask for and they are forced to get real. As long as there are enough big swinging dicks (weekend millionaires), it is difficult.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1807913]I was in Thailand back in Dec 2013 and brought in the New Year in Pattaya. Everything gets expensive by say 20%. The price of drinks remain the same, but hotel tariff, bar fines and ST / LT charges go up. This is not because of some strategic pricing model but simply due to demand / supply. No one wants to go back to the hotel "alone" during these days.

Soi 6 charges remain the same if you want in-house services but if you want to take the girl out of the bar then the higher prices apply.

This has been my experience. However, with all the present economic challenges faced by Russia and the prevalent general security concerns in the region it may be different this year. But then Thai logic says charge more during "low season" and that is an entirely different story![/QUOTE]Blanquiceleste,

Thank you and everyone else that responded! Flight to Bangkok are still reasonable. I am thinking about booking room before I arrive online. But, in Thailand in the busy season I wonder if they will really hold my room. I have my doubts. But, I will put a plan together.

Thanks

So was in Pattaya a few months back and was on the lookout for a CIS lady. Went to mixx and the prices quoted were insane. Women asking for 8 k and not ready to budge. Proceeded to Lima Lima and found a pretty looking 21 year old. Initially her offer was for 6 k and not refusing to budge. Chilled out for a bit near her working friends. Worked my charm and voilà she was ready for 5 k LT. Proceeded to the room. Tried to talk to her and found out she does not understand a word of English. Getting worried now how will I explain things to her. She undressed and went to the bathroom to freshen up. Came out and told me to take a shower by myself. I told her to join me which she wasn't ready initially but agreed too. Got cleaned up proceeded to action. What began from there was pure bliss. She had the perfect beach body under her long dress. She did everything in her power to please me. She started with blowjob like a pro and then came on top. And first round over. Had a blast with her and a total of 3 shots in a span of 12 hours. Putting up her pictures in the next post. Thanks. She is highly recommended.

Attaching her pictures as promised.

[QUOTE=TomSf;1807786]Team,

Has anyone ever spent Christmas in Pattaya or new years? I am thinking about booking my first Christmas time trip. But, heard it is very busy at that time. I worry, I will not be able to get a room. I was also researching online and read girls charge an extra 500 baut for short time? I don't know if that is true. Is the whole month of January hard to get a cheap room as well? I been to Thailand many times just never on a major holiday. If Thailand is too busy at that time I was thinking Vietnam but worry the girls all go back home for a week from the hot tocs. That defeats the whole purpose of my trip.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Just search for your hotel and book now if you are worried about room availability. After reading your post I jumped on 3 different hotel search engines and within seconds found rooms available in many hotels ranging from 5* down to 3*, prices seemed a bit higher but nothing like one sees at Carnival time in Rio. So if you want to go, takes all of a minute to book a hotel and then just go.

And as Mr. E succinctly put as always, there is no set in stone policy on charging 500 baht more. This is SEA almost everything is up for negotiation. Just the negotiation is a bit harder during Christmas season because the demand is much higher.

[QUOTE=Tiger888;1807962]...As long as there are enough big swinging dicks (weekend millionaires), it is difficult.[/QUOTE]That is exactly the point I was trying to communicate. Demand Supply. There is plenty of evidence on tourism trends available.

1. Over the last 10 years the number of tourists arriving in Pattaya has more than doubled. It is pegged at around 7 mn for 2014.

2. Occupancy rates of hotels average at 54% through the year but from Nov to Feb it hovers at 72%.

3. Average Tariff for the year is around 1770 THB. From Nov to Feb it is 2427 THB.

So there ARE enough weekend millionaires in town and hence one would expect prices to spike.

Those who state they have managed to hold their price must indeed be excellent negotiators. Tips on negotiation are welcome, everyone would benefit.

[QUOTE=GinAndTonic;1807955]Never noticed this but the AGOGO's will up the barfine on New Years Eve.[/QUOTE]This practice has been going on as long as I have been living here, especially with Go Go's that have set prices in Barfines like the Happy Group which today is 800 baht all night. So on Christmas, New Years Eve and New Year Day, it will double to 1600 baht. Now with all the clubs hiring Agency girls that have two-three tier Barfines I do not know. As for the Happy Group many of the Super-Stars will be holding out for 7,000 plus for LT, if they even go LT, and if they do don't expect LT to be too long. As noted by Mr. E. Do not assume you can negotiate.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1808088] As noted by Mr. E. Do not assume you can negotiate.[/QUOTE]Actually Mr. E noted that you CAN negotiate most of the time and I concur.

Sure some things like bar fines or fees at a soapie are more difficult to negotiate the girls ST / LT fee is totally up to her. As an example I was at Sexy Airline in September and I asked the girl how much for ST. She said "3000". I said "baby I told you this was my first night on this trip but this is my 8th trip" I then told her "baby short time is 2000" She took her arms off me and crossed them and then stuck at her tongue at me and said "OK, I go change".

[QUOTE=Soldierb11;1808098]Actually Mr. E noted that you CAN negotiate most of the time and I concur.

Sure some things like bar fines or fees at a soapie are more difficult to negotiate the girls ST / LT fee is totally up to her. As an example I was at Sexy Airline in September and I asked the girl how much for ST. She said "3000". I said "baby I told you this was my first night on this trip but this is my 8th trip" I then told her "baby short time is 2000" She took her arms off me and crossed them and then stuck at her tongue at me and said "OK, I go change".[/QUOTE]Thanks for bringing that to my attention, I agree with you, I should have put a comma or explanation point after assume, that one can and should negotiate most of the time. I find it virtually impossible to negotiate at a Soapy the prices seem to be set. But if I like a girl and get to know her I usually work on a number outside when she isn't working. Also, from my experience when I get a number I do not like, rarely if ever do I let her know that I have been here so and so times. Doing that usually ruins the mood or feeling I start to develop for the girl and once she throws out a number that I do not like she accepting less I feel I'm going to get less. Usually I let them know one way or another from the beginning I know the score so if the topic of BF comes up it is usually a acceptable rate for me.

[QUOTE=TomSf;1807978]Blanquiceleste,

Thank you and everyone else that responded! Flight to Bangkok are still reasonable. I am thinking about booking room before I arrive online. But, in Thailand in the busy season I wonder if they will really hold my room. I have my doubts. But, I will put a plan together.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Contrary to many beliefs, the Thai are not out to cheat you.

I have never had a problem with a hotel booking in Thailand, be it price or availability, even on days I arrived quite late at the hotel.

And if you go through one of the reputable hotel sites, such as [URL]booking.com[/URL] I see no reason why it should go wrong at all. They have excellent customer care.

Thanks for your inputs.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1807652]A few quick pointers:

SNIP.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1808086]That is exactly the point I was trying to communicate. Demand Supply. There is plenty of evidence on tourism trends available.

1. Over the last 10 years the number of tourists arriving in Pattaya has more than doubled. It is pegged at around 7 mn for 2014.

2. Occupancy rates of hotels average at 54% through the year but from Nov to Feb it hovers at 72%.

3. Average Tariff for the year is around 1770 THB. From Nov to Feb it is 2427 THB.

So there ARE enough weekend millionaires in town and hence one would expect prices to spike.

Those who state they have managed to hold their price must indeed be excellent negotiators. Tips on negotiation are welcome, everyone would benefit.[/QUOTE]I guess it is different for me because I live here. Even when I was visiting I never experienced any up charge except for hotels during high season. I could always find a guest house with no increase though. I don't much care for the go go's and I don't have a problem walking away when the deal is not right. I never needed to pull the finest in Pattaya, just wanted excellent service.

I guess if you go to the go go's where they already charge a premium, you would be expected to pay more.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1808086] 1. Over the last 10 years the number of tourists arriving in Pattaya has more than doubled. It is pegged at around 7 mn for 2014.
[/QUOTE]Its hard to peg how many tourists are actually buying flesh and not just on a tour package or partying their way thru Asia.

For a trip to Thailand? I'd like to visit Pattaya for a couple of weeks or so.

[QUOTE=Pussylicker2;1808472]For a trip to Thailand? I'd like to visit Pattaya for a couple of weeks or so.[/QUOTE]Exactly what is your need for a travel agent?

[QUOTE=HenryR;1805505]Sorry, I meant one of the rooms at the Kinnaree Club is B 350. I didn't ask what the deal is for taking a girl out. Does anyone know?[/QUOTE]If you take a girl out of Kinnaree, its the same 350, you have to remember the girls in there are independent, work when they want, days off when they want, the bar get the barfine, I have taken several girls from there as I live in that area, and its always been 350.

[QUOTE=HenryR;1805507]Actually, what you wrote makes sense. Maybe my friends are wrong. By the way, 2 Go Go Bars opened on Soi 6. Very close to each other. One is named Passions, can't remember the name of the other one, which is a few doors down. Both have good looking dancers. I took one to my hotel for LT. This is kind of surprising. Soi 6 is the last place in Pattaya where I would have expected to find all nighters. It seemed to me in the past to be just for "quickies". But I guess the go go bars there are much different than the other Soi 6 bars.[/QUOTE]Passion club has not just opened, its been open for years. And yes you can barfine them for takeout for 500.

[QUOTE=Priamos;1805531]Yes, I agree. I have asked around one a couple of occasions to know how my various "girlfriends" had ended up on Soi 6, and it seems that a large portion have been recruited in factories in Bangkok. The usual trail is, they move from Isaan to BKK in search of work and an income, but are disappointed with the low pay, the backbreaking work and the high prices of the city. Then someone whispers in their ear that they could multiply their earnings by coming to Pattaya. - And mum and dad need never know how the money they send home was earned.[/QUOTE]Don't kid yourself or anyone on here that "mom and dad" don't know where there daughters are working, most of these girls are forced out of there villages when they are 16/17 to get out on there backs and earn a living, that's total naivety if you think mom and dad don't know. They have to earn, simple as that. Sex to a Thai is like turning over in bed, its nothing. Bet your life "mom" mainly is the one who kicks them out the nest to get out and earn for the family.

[QUOTE=Pussylicker2;1808472]For a trip to Thailand? I'd like to visit Pattaya for a couple of weeks or so.[/QUOTE]Just book a flight to Bangkok directly from the airline's website and book a hotel through one of the usual hotel booking sites (agoda, booking, . . .).

For suggestions of which hotels to book, read the Pattaya Hotel thread.

We have just saved you enough money to hire a Beach Road Beauty for a few ST romps.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1808644]Just book a flight to Bangkok directly from the airline's website....[/QUOTE]From the airline's website? That is usually quite expensive.

Pussylicker2, just google "cheap flights" (in your own language, if your language is not English) or something like that to find cheap, local on line ticket sellers.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1808644]Just book a flight to Bangkok directly from the airline's website and book a hotel through one of the usual hotel booking sites (agoda, booking, . . .).

For suggestions of which hotels to book, read the Pattaya Hotel thread.

We have just saved you enough money to hire a Beach Road Beauty for a few ST romps.[/QUOTE]Hire a beach road beauty and buy a membership to the board since he wants the quick answers without RTFF.

You guys can get his hotel booked and get his flight taken care of. I volunteer to fuck his women for him.

We are doing everything for him aren't we? LOL.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;1808665]From the airline's website? That is usually quite expensive.

Pussylicker2, just google "cheap flights" (in your own language, if your language is not English) or something like that to find cheap, local on line ticket sellers.[/QUOTE][URL]kayak.com[/URL] - virtually all of the airline and consolidator sites.

[QUOTE=TellAll;1808678] ... You guys can get his hotel booked and get his flight taken care of. I volunteer to fuck his women for him.....[/QUOTE]Hey Tellall, we can both fuck the women and take notes. Then when the guy comes, he can buy us beers, then we will tell him which women are good in bed. ;)

This report is of my days in Pattaya for a trip a few weeks ago. This past trip was split between BKK and Pattaya. . the first 4 days are posted in the BKK forum.

Day 4.

Wake up and pack for Pattaya. Told Nat, my Thai GF, I was going to Singapore on business so that wing and I could get away! We catch Tann's Taxi service to the Penthouse hotel in Pattaya not far from walking street. Wingman and I are really wondering about this place from the pictures but it is a party room. Sex Swings, Jacuzzi tub, mirrors all over the place and dancing poles. We talk about our experiences from BKK earlier on the ride down. So far not quite what we had hoped but OK. We had hoped to get my Nat and his girl Lee together but alas not to happen.

We arrive at 2 pm to check in to a very gaudy hotel. Looks like an Indian decorator had a wet dream and then doubled down. Shit all over the place, no symmetry, penis statues, naked lady statues and that was just the lobby. We get to our room, the 2 bed Siam Deluxe "suite". Same as the lobby shit all over. Masks on the walls, ceiling and he oddest layout imaginable. No privacy. The bath was open for all to see. If you dropped a dookie everyone would see, hear and smell. So wing and I decided at that time. #1 OK in the room but #2 in the lobby bathroom. We start to unpack in this place of party decadence and we still think WTF are we doing here. But it is an experience we want to try out so we stay. For now. We go walking and get some supply's for the room and a foot massage. We have dates set up with a few girls that we have met before. Nam and May. They work at Angel Witch and we thought "let's get them into the party room and see what happens". SO we did. At 7:30 ish we head to walking street. Stop at Frog bar and have a few drinks and let the ugly girls flirt with us. Went to Angel Witch around 8:30 and saw the whole gang from our party earlier in the year – Noki, Nam, May and a few others I cannot remember names. Noki was still the life of the party and wanted to come back with us. Wing and I just decide to give her 1000 baht for her time and help getting some things set up for us. We buy them all drinks and then we bar fine May and Nam.

Back at the Penthouse- We arrive and the girls were a little taken aback by the place and the look but was OK. We decided to play strip war and drink to get them ready for action. After about 1. 5 hours of that and them starting to give us signs that they were ready we retire to the main bed in the "living" area of the room. We are all naked by this time thanks to the game and the girls seemed horny due to drinking I am certain. Wingman and I pull out our Brookstone back massager and the attachments. Time for some orgasm races! Winner, who could hold out the longest, got 1000 baht.

Objective – Wing and I will insert the massager with attachment into each girl and try to make them cum. The first girls to cum loses but in reality everyone wins. Pop in the massager and the girls start to squirm. Nam is the first to let go after I slowly pumped up the vibrations every 30 second or so. She finished in about 3. 5 minutes. Pretty quick. May was not far behind.

After that Nam just wanted me to fuck her brains out. So we hit my "bedroom" on the opposite side of the suite with a curtain divider. Not much of a separation. She lays on the bed and immediately starts to kiss and grab mini me for stroking. I enter her MISH and just pound. She is a moaner but just when the stokes are deep and long. She gushes a few times more and then I pop and creampie her. Oops got carried away, drinking and no condom.

After that she and I shower and we could still hear wingman pounding May! Nice! One good thing about this room was porn on the TV and mirrors everywhere. I could see them having a good time. They finish not long after. The girls then spring a surprise on us. They have a birthday party to attend at 12 midnight. SURE. I do not fight it and I pay Nam the agreed 4000 (we gave them both additional since they were good sports) and they are on their way. Wing and I decide to head out for more pussy. We start to walk forever trying to find the massage places from our last trip. But no luck. I needed my notes and Google maps to really pinpoint it. So we head back to walking street and hit Windmill! Interesting place. Walk in and see guys / patrons literally licking girls pussies and fingering them on stage! My kind of place. The action was good the talent was lacking so we leave.

Next we popped our heads into a few other establishments but nothing either wanted. We stop at Alcatraz and Wing sees a coyotes dancer on stage and says I want that. So he signals and she comes over. He gets her a drink and finds out that she does not get bar fines! WTF. Shit. During this whole time he was negotiating, or so I thought, I was approached by a cute girl named Nok. She was kind of drunk and was all over me. Grabbing mini me, acting like she was going to suck me in the club. Etc. I said "I have a winner" paid ST – 3000 total with barfine. Wing leaves after his bitchy coyote goes to the "bathroom". I signaled with my fingers and nose that she was stuck up and she got really pissed at me before she walked away. Well **** what the fuck do you peddle for a living. . you flaunt it and then no touchy? WTF.

We hit another Go-Go I cannot remember and Wing finds a girl, <insert name here LOL . Cute girl. We all head beck for a night cap and fuck. We drink some and then we hit the bed room and I start to get her primed. She lays me on my back and just starts to fuck the hell out of me. At first she was very wet and then it goes dry. It is dark but grab a condom and move in then I start to see the tell tale sign of a yeast infection! NOOOOOOO. I immediate pull out and tell her it is OK I want to finish in the shower. So we go there to wash up. I start to wash and wash and wash. She does as well. You have to understand the shower / toilet to appreciate this next bit. She now is clean and I am clean. She sits on the toilet, which is in the shower, and starts a really good BBBJ. After about 3 minutes I pop in her mouth. She spits and I wash and turn off the water. We go back to my bed and we could still hear Wing and his girls just pounding away. Wing invites me over to view his girl being bent over! Nice sight to see.! I should have kicked him off and started fucking her. 555.

While that was going on a walk back and lay back down and Nok starts to stoke me more. I let her finish me again BBBJCIM. This time she swallowed. So she did salvage a bad situation. Wing finishes and we both say good bye to the girls and lay down at 4 am.

Day 5.

Wing and I sleep in to 9 ish and he starts to work on a plan to get Nok, his Nok, to come to Pattaya to see if he can have a run at fucking her again. So that would make me on my own for the last 2 days of the trip.

I, at the time, was having my issues with Nat since she decided it was a good idea to lie to me about a guy she met in Turkey that was in BKK and sent her his hotel information via text one of the nights I was with her. In BKK right before I left her phone buzzed on the night stand, I thought it was mine and picked it up. Say a message from "Geray" I asked her about it and she said "nothing to worry about I not like him". SURE. I checked FB today and this dude posted a picture oh him and Nat at terminal 21 having lunch / dinner after she told me she was just staying in. I texted her the picture and said "you lie and BS" She immediately said nothing happened. Blah. Blah. I would have been OK if she just said to me that "while you in Thailand we have a good time but when not I see other men. " I would have accepted that and moved on but she lied and was caught. When you are caught you need to apologize and move on.

So he makes plans and gets a new hotel for him and his girl, Nok.

After having breakfast we decide to walk around a bit and get a massage! We finally find the massage places from before and Wing gets "Bin" for a massage. My girl, from a previous trip, that looked like Vanessa Marcil there immediately walked up to wingman and ignored me. Bad move baby. That made me just move on. She did not try to sell me on a massage and once wing said he was taking Bin she just sat there looking at her phone. So I head back to the room and shower and chill for a bit. After Wing was done he told me Bin was a performer! Nice. !

Next we walk up to a burger joint a few sois away from the hotel. More that a few I guess. We get 2 burgers and drinks. Then a storm hits. So we chill and chat a bit. Wing has a great idea. So we act on it. He spots and foot massage place and we wait out the storm there and get a 150 baht 60 minute manage. Fucking $4. 50 massage for an hour! God I love Thailand. After that Wing calls Nam and May and take them up on their offer the previous night to go again for the night. We go back to the room and intend on sleeping. I decide that I did not want to sleep in the room for the next 2 nights as well since the shower / bath leaves a lot to be desired. So I hop on Agoda and book a hotel down the street – LK Empress on Beach road. Nice place and I start to think that I might want to forgive Nat, my Thai GF, after the 1 full day of pleading and begging from her that she did not sleep with Geray from Turkey. Hmmm. She goes to Turkey, friends him on FB, says she met him in a bar, then 2 weeks later he is on his way to BKK and texts her is hotel info with "Good Night Sweet Dreams Honey<kisses " what am I supposed to think. So if she does come to see me I would rather NOT be at this hotel. And off to sleep I go.

Wing and I wake at 8 pm for a 9 pm meeting with Nam and May. Time to hit some go gos and find 2 more girls for the party room. Final night for us both really without girlfriends. We all meet and hit Skyfall and Wing and May pick "Goi", I think name is right for ST. Cute face and nice body. My girl, Nam, did not see anything that she wanted from this GoGo. So we move on to a hole in the wall go-go. I cannot remember the name but it was not big but had a few lookers. Nam started to look around but never seemed to pull the trigger until I saw a really cute spinner, Yum. She was yummy looking and looked young. She had a great smile. We BF her and we all go back to the party suite and start the festivities.

My favorite drinking game Strip War was going well until the 2 short time girls started to get antsy. Goi kept signaling to wingman that he needed to take her as she was horny after drinking. So he grabs her and hits my bed and fucks her for 30 minutes or so. My girl, Yum, is looking at me wondering when we are going to finish the short time. So I said after wing man is done then we go. So after he is done and finished. Yum and I go into my room. She says "I not good at Boom Boom" I laugh and think nothing of it. It did turn out that she was very in experienced and probably very young. She had only been go-go-ing for 2 weeks. SHIT a newbie!. Oh well. She could not have been more than 5'3" and 90 lbs soaking wet. A true spinner with some cute little hips. She just lays back and I start to lick her beautiful tightpussy and no movement or pleasure seemed to be coming from her. Just a starfish. FUCK. Another one! So I grab a condom after having her stoke me for a few. Not a lips kisser, no BJ, no emotion just opened the legs and looked away during the session. Ok she was right not good for boom boom. I went for a good 15 minutes due to condom and emotionless girl. Advice to women – you want a guy to cum. Kiss them! I finally pop in the cover after telling her to look me in the eyes. And she goes to the shower. Such and newbie. Good luck to her.

The rest of the night was similar to the night before. Got out some of wingman's sex toys and tried them on May and Nam. We all got into the Jacuzzi bath and "cleaned" up. The girls then jumped onto the main bed and we start with a pussy pump with the vibrator on the outside. Nam liked that and then we cleaned it and May tried it. Same result. We then have them race again with the massager attachment. Same result in a huge finish. Nam wants me to go into my bedroom again so I oblige and we fuck for a while. I asked her for a BJ and she said that she does not do that. WTF. So that set the mood some and I just banged the shit out of her for 30 minutes. I was a sweaty heap! I could hear wingman just fucking the hell out of May in multiple ways. Finally her drunken state caught up to her and she started to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] Wingman off by requesting a new condom like 3 times after she though he had not changed one or was confused. So it was time to cut her off. Then Nam says "Oh I have class at 6 am and I have to go" . Nam insisted that she wanted to see me the following night and I said "Sorry baby I think I am busy with friends" I said call me. That one will get ignored. So now its 3:30 am again and Wing and I have nobody for a morning quickie. Oh well. Those girls just lost revenue.

Day 6.

I wake and call Nat. We talk about life and her lie. She is very sorry and I had never heard her cry but I think she was choking back tears. She is a tough girl and a spoiled girl so this was new for me. I said do you want to come to Pattaya to see me? Tell her I was finished with business in Singapore. She jumped at the chance and she said she would grab a taxi in the afternoon. Wingman and I pack up our shit and move to our new hotel but keep the other for a possible party room. He was going to have his girl, Nok, join him for his last try at bedding her for the next 2 days. A long shot but I wished him well. I wanted to see Nat since she was my Kryptonite and no matter what I did not say I was over her, I could not help but want to see her again. I am not like this at all but she has my number. And I do not know how or why.

So I wait most of the morning and afternoon for her to arrive in Pattaya. She shows up at 3 pm –ish with just a bag. I greet her with a hug and we head to the room to chat for a while. We start to talk again about Geray and why this was bothersome for me. She did genuinely seem to want this to pass behind us and from what I could tell she did not sleep with him. I could tell she was lying about something's but it seemed when she talked about sleeping with him that was the truth. She then gets a call on her cell. It was her friend that drove her down checking to make sure she was OK. Come to find out, she only packed lightly because she thought that we were just going to fight and that she would have to go home. After she realized that I was going to forgive her and be a friend no matter if we were lovers or not then she relaxed. She told him that all was good and to go home. So we sat in my room and talk about what I expected and wanted from now on. I would not pry into her life and look at FB. Etc. It was now all on her. If she did something wrong it was on her and on her conscience. Not that I really think a Thai girl had one but the more I peeled the onion back I found that Nat did not have many "boyfriends". She seemed to be very picky and I started to confirm that later with a few people that she knew in Pattaya. Being the notorious party girl that she was she knew a few managers and bar / gogo owners. That night we would visit a few.

First we hug and kiss some after getting comfortable again. She is my kryptonite. I cannot help just being happy being with her. We decide after a few hours of hugging and kissing. Mostly hugging since kissing revv-ed her up something fierce. . we decided to rest some and shower before heading out. First stop was the frog bar where we both drank 3 beers and chatted for quite sometime. She leaned into me the whole time with her toes and legs pointed my way. That boys is a sign that a girl is into you. If she was the typical cold hearted bar girl she would have been over selling it to get what she wanted and all over me. If she was just there to extract what she wanted (a new iPhone) then she would not have been doing those things. They are subconscious.

After we go to a go-go. Here she meets and old friend and bar owner. I cannot remember his name but he was a crazy guy that had done a ton of Coke in his day. He fucked every girl that worked for him and knew Nat from her coming in to party with some of her girlfriends. He and I struck up some conversation and landed on him telling me that I was a lucky man for landing her considering her past with girls. Nat liked girls but later found that men satisfy in ways that a girl could not. We drank for free there about half the time. Stayed and had 4 beers each and Nat had a shot or 2. We then leave and head to "What's up" go-go where she knew the tomboy / gay manager. I think she had a casual relationship with Guiol, the female manager. We got more drinks comp-ed and paid for some as well. More beers and whiskey for Nat. Now I am starting to see the crazy Nat when she gets too drunk so we decide to call it an evening and walk back to the hotel. She was quite drunk but did manage to walk back with my help. After 11 beers I was buzzing hard as well but I never have an issue keeping my wits.

We get back and Nat just strips and lays on the bed naked with her ass in the air and ready for me. I had wanted to fuck her since she walked through my hotel door.

So what choice did I have. I fucked her that way 3 times while she was basically passed out. She did know what was going on since she kept backing into me and moaning. I told her I was going to cum and she did say "oh yes baby " in a very high pitched voice. She was so hot laying there it did not take me long to recover and have 2 more goes at creampies. If she was not just getting off her period or on those stupid stop period pills. She would have been pregnant after this week. I probably filled her 10-12 times over the past 4-5 days with her.

During this time my wingman was out with his girl, Nok, and texted me that the got a kiss and said it was from an angel right after my final creampie session with Nat. I then sent him a pic of my cream oozing from Nats pussy and he responds "FU".

He was having a good night with Nok and did get her back but she was too drunk to do anything with apparently. He could have taken her but was a gentleman and did not. I however was not and my girl was asking me to fuck her the whole way back to the hotel. So I obliged.

Day 7.

Nat and I wake up and we fuck one more time for good measure. She jumps on top for 2 great orgasms and then wants me to plow her MISH and load her up. SO I do.

We shower and relax and she is not feeling well after showering. The hang over and those stupid stop the period pills I think started to take their toll. We both go get some food at the breakfast buffet, meet wingman downstairs to chat and head back to relax at the room. Nat later wants go buy a dress and go to the salon to get ready for Halloween night. So she kisses me and is on her way.

I call wingman and see if he wants to meet for a foot massage so we can chat some. We find a foot massage place that was close and where wingman and Nok got full body massages done the previous day. The massage was so-so by thai standards. God do I wish that I could get a full hour $6 foot massage in the US everyday! I would be such a relaxed dude. Wing tells me about his night and how it went. He was so close to the promised land but wanted her to be awake during the process. Apparently Nok got so drunk that she passed out in him bed and did not go back to her room. He did not hit it! Now that is will power! He was going to try again tonight but get her to hold back on the alcohol. He did get to 3rd base while she was awake but did not get that home run. I told him that he was WAY more of a gentleman that I would have been given the history that they had and how she kept keeping the door open. But he had his reasons. I however was in Thailand to fuck and take no prisoners. I saw the shot. There was not danger. So I took it.

He then did tell me that the frustration bled over and he went back to meet "Bin" at the massage place that was an awesome fuck apparently. He said that he took her to the party room and was going to have fun with her there and found out that she had no ID! So the Penthouse staff said "Sorry, no ID no entry". She felt bad but they went back to the massage place and got a room there where he banged the hell out of her in frustration from the night before. So at least he had that.

We then leave the massage place and wish each other luck with the nightly activities. Nat was at the room when I got back and had a dress but still said that she was not feeling well. I said "let's rest baby" we have plenty of time to get ready. We slept from 3 pm – 8 pm on and off while she played with her new phone. I was apparently snoring. So it was hard for her to sleep. She did not inform me of this until the next day. At 8 pm she said she still was not feeling well and asked if we could stay in. Sure. So the rest of the night was pretty much a wash.

I was in and out all night long until around 6 am where I woke to a raging hard on. I snuggle up to her and she just grabs my cock and lets me enter her spooning / side lazy doggie. This is my favorite morning position. We fuck for a good 10 minutes as I wanted to just give her the ride of her life. She has me stop mid session 4 times while she had orgasms. Finally on the 5th orgasm I ram her balls deep and unload deep inside her as she convulses multiple times as I fill her up. I lie there in a heap and kiss her neck as she giggles and squirms. We shower and I play around and want another session but she kept saying "No baby, I am too sensitive". She was in her robe in the bathroom bending over doing some make up when I just walked in, lifted the robe and started to rub her pussy. She just dropped the robe and turned and kissed me and grabbed my cock and had me enter her standing up. Needless to say that sight was probably one of the greatest things that I have ever seen. She jumps up on the counter and I plow her again. She said "cum in me baby!" so I did after only a few short minutes. After that I was so spent that I could barely walk. We both hop in the shower and get ready to hit breakfast.

Wingman was at breakfast and we chatted about his last night. Another swing and a miss for him but he was happy. As I said "Better man that I".

The rest of the day was taxi ride to the airport, lunch and then meeting wingman at the airport gate to leave Thailand.

All in all. To the trip I was expecting but it was OK. I was really wanting more variety and in a way wished that I would have just not seen Nat in the beginning and just made it a true mongering trip. Although after reflecting on the trip a bit, I can say that I probably had the greatest sex of my life on this trip. I think that was my take away. Nat is my Kryptonite because she knows how to please me and I her. That is why I cannot get enough of her.

Stay safe and rock on.

Rockhound.

[QUOTE=Dinghy;1808773][URL]kayak.com[/URL] - virtually all of the airline and consolidator sites.[/QUOTE]Try the Skyscanner App. Seems to routinely find flights for about 20% less than Kayak. The Kayak App has one great feature, Explore. Pick your home airport and it pops up a world map, with cheapest prices to each city. Useful if your choosing between a few destinations.

I just had a few hours off and wanted to fuck Nim in Club4 that serviced me particulary well when I saw her 8 weeks ago. She's from Petchabun, 22, no kids, and I like to repeat.

Got a motorbike out there just as the rain started pouring down. Club4 was closed, so was 007 and Pirates! And I was caught in this deserted place for more than half an hour while the rain kept pissing down.
Finally it cleared up a bit and another motorbike passed by, caught mercy on me and took me to the telephone box, never been there before, name just popped up when he asked where to. Rang the box, and the French owner came out and told me that it was closed, no girls, King's birthday! Got a new motorbike, went to Le Private, closed too didn't bother to check the post office as I was now soaking wet.

Back at my hotel, GF comes back tonight, I'm ready!

[QUOTE=RockHound74;1808831]This report is of my days in Pattaya for a trip a few weeks ago. This past trip was split between BKK and Pattaya. . the first 4 days are posted in the BKK forum.

Rockhound.[/QUOTE]Great report. Thanks for sharing. You got me all revved up for my trip. Wheels up in 8 days!

I wouldn't sweat your girl Nat too much on the infidelity. She needs to make a living while you are away. And I would not sweat the lying too much, either. Thais are obsessed with saving face (your's and hers) and that, rather than any serious ill intentions, is often at the root of their dishonesty.

She seems to give you a pretty side berth while you are in Thailand. This is rare as Thai girls tend to be very jealous and possessive. Especially my current regular. I would have gotten the 5th degree about the whole "Singapore business" trip LOL.

Sounds like you have a good thing going. Why mess it up?

Best of luck and I look forward to your next report!

Stay horny my friend and keep those creampies coming (no pun intended) 555.

Uncle-V.

[QUOTE=RockHound74;1808831]This report is of my days in Pattaya for a trip a few weeks ago. This past trip was split between BKK and Pattaya. . the first 4 days are posted in the BKK forum.

SNIP

Stay safe and rock on.

Rockhound.[/QUOTE]Fabulous set of reports. Took a whole hour to read them (BKK & PYX) and boy. I cannot wait to get back to Thailand! Way to go RockHound.

After Club4 and 007 new club in Soi Arunothai that seems a tiny soi6 LOL. Pirates Hostess Bar.

[QUOTE=How14;1808617]Passion club has not just opened, its been open for years. And yes you can barfine them for takeout for 500.[/QUOTE]My previous trip to Pattaya was in early 2012. I don't remember seeing any Go Go bars on Soi 6 at that time. Maybe I passed it by. By the way, the other Go Go Bar is Dolls, 3 doors down from Passions.

There are two small bars between Passions and Dolls. One had a bunch of good looking girls outside in front. I took one of them home for the night.

[QUOTE=HenryR;1809598]My previous trip to Pattaya was in early 2012. I don't remember seeing any Go Go bars on Soi 6 at that time. Maybe I passed it by. By the way, the other Go Go Bar is Dolls, 3 doors down from Passions.

There are two small bars between Passions and Dolls. One had a bunch of good looking girls outside in front. I took one of them home for the night.[/QUOTE]I just realized why I didn't see the Go Go Bars on my past trips to Soi 6. In previous trips, I went to Soi 6 on afternoons only, because I thought Soi 6 was a daytime place only. The Go Go bars open at night, which is probably why I didn't see them on past trips to Pattaya's Soi 6.

[QUOTE=TomSf;1807786]Team,

Has anyone ever spent Christmas in Pattaya or new years? I am thinking about booking my first Christmas time trip. But, heard it is very busy at that time. I worry, I will not be able to get a room. I was also researching online and read girls charge an extra 500 baut for short time? I don't know if that is true. Is the whole month of January hard to get a cheap room as well? I been to Thailand many times just never on a major holiday. If Thailand is too busy at that time I was thinking Vietnam but worry the girls all go back home for a week from the hot tocs. That defeats the whole purpose of my trip.

Thanks[/QUOTE]I have the same idea I was thinking Medellin first because it's closer but I guess the girl go to there families around New Years so I'm thinking of going here instead a couple days after Christmas.

What might a motobike taxi charge you to go from the Areca lodge up to Kinaree?

[QUOTE=Breadman;1810032]What might a motobike taxi charge you to go from the Areca lodge up to Kinaree?[/QUOTE]I have taken a motorbike taxi several times from the bars Soi 8 / Soi 7 to Pratumnak Hill. Never paid a baht more than 80.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1809485]Great report. Thanks for sharing. You got me all revved up for my trip. Wheels up in 8 days!

I wouldn't sweat your girl Nat too much on the infidelity. She needs to make a living while you are away. And I would not sweat the lying too much, either. Thais are obsessed with saving face (your's and hers) and that, rather than any serious ill intentions, is often at the root of their dishonesty.

She seems to give you a pretty side berth while you are in Thailand. This is rare as Thai girls tend to be very jealous and possessive. Especially my current regular. I would have gotten the 5th degree about the whole "Singapore business" trip LOL.

Sounds like you have a good thing going. Why mess it up?

Best of luck and I look forward to your next report!

Stay horny my friend and keep those creampies coming (no pun intended) 555.

Uncle-V.[/QUOTE]Thanks and I agree with you! I will be in BKK in 3 days and Nat is "cumming" to see me of course. She will have the night and I will have the days. Maybe a soapie, BJ bar. Etc. She and I will be talking about the whole "you see people and I will too". She does like girls too but is embarrassed to bring a girl back with us. I am going to try to change that this trip!

Stay safe!

The Rock

[QUOTE=Mogwai;1808665]From the airline's website? That is usually quite expensive.

Pussylicker2, just google "cheap flights" (in your own language, if your language is not English) or something like that to find cheap, local on line ticket sellers.[/QUOTE]Maybe, but he didn't say he wanted a cheap flight. He even asked for a travel agent!

Hi guys,

I am in the planning phase of my trip to Thailand in the beginning of February in 2016.

I am planning for a nine day trip to Pattaya (4 Days), Phuket (2 Days) and then to end it with Bangkok (3 Days).

I had a couple of questions regarding how things work over in Thailand.

1) A friend told me that if we are taking a Tuk Tuk or a Taxi to a club or a massage place, then we don't have to pay the driver as the establishment pays them a commission to bring customers. Is this true? If so how does it work?

2) From RTFF I gather that the bar fine for a girl is fixed and her rate is subject to bargaining. Is my understanding correct?

3) When I go to a massage place like Honey or Rasputin are we allowed to talk with the girl before we select her and go to the room to do the deed? Or is it just a selection based on looks and we get whatever service the girl wants to provide?

4) What are the Clubs\Go Go's which are a "must visit"?

5) When we book a double bedroom in a hotel is it understood by the hotel that we will bring a "guest" with us for the night? Or do they create issues and ask for a joiner fee?

I understand how valuable mongering time is, so any help on the above mentioned points or any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1808915]Try the Skyscanner App. Seems to routinely find flights for about 20% less than Kayak. The Kayak App has one great feature, Explore. Pick your home airport and it pops up a world map, with cheapest prices to each city. Useful if your choosing between a few destinations.[/QUOTE]I yield to superior research. I checked them against each other and skyscanner seems to do a better job. I never tried the explore function in kayak, though.

[QUOTE=TheTank85;1810313]Hi guys,

I am in the planning phase of my trip to Thailand in the beginning of February in 2016.

I am planning for a nine day trip to Pattaya (4 Days), Phuket (2 Days) and then to end it with Bangkok (3 Days).

I had a couple of questions regarding how things work over in Thailand.

1) A friend told me that if we are taking a Tuk Tuk or a Taxi to a club or a massage place, then we don't have to pay the driver as the establishment pays them a commission to bring customers. Is this true? If so how does it work?

2) From RTFF I gather that the bar fine for a girl is fixed and her rate is subject to bargaining. Is my understanding correct?

3) When I go to a massage place like Honey or Rasputin are we allowed to talk with the girl before we select her and go to the room to do the deed? Or is it just a selection based on looks and we get whatever service the girl wants to provide?

4) What are the Clubs\Go Go's which are a "must visit"?

5) When we book a double bedroom in a hotel is it understood by the hotel that we will bring a "guest" with us for the night? Or do they create issues and ask for a joiner fee?

I understand how valuable mongering time is, so any help on the above mentioned points or any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]1. Having a taxi take you to a massage or club is probably going to be an expensive mistake. The driver isn't going to take you to the best place, he'll take you to the place that pays him the most. The establishment will then jack their prices above and beyond. If the place has nothing worth your interest, you're stuck paying for a wasted trip.

Instead, choose a hotel that's convenient. In Pattaya, if you are close to 2nd road or Beach Rd, you can catch a baht bus to go to the most promising areas, in Bangkok, close to a BTS station makes getting around easy.

4. The forum has all the answers. Or a Google search for Bangkok gogo will give a good list.

5. The Bangkok Hotels thread and Pattaya Hotels thread will help you choose a girl friendly hotel, Google search for some other good resources. Many hotels will check and hold the girl's ID, some only allow 1 girl at a time or 1 per day, without charging extra. It's best to confirm with the individual hotels on their exact policy.

I wouldn't recommend setting your schedule in stone. You may want to spend more or less time in each place. Book your first hotel for one night and decide from there.

[QUOTE=TheTank85;1810313]Hi guys,

I am in the planning phase of my trip to Thailand in the beginning of February in 2016.

I am planning for a nine day trip to Pattaya (4 Days), Phuket (2 Days) and then to end it with Bangkok (3 Days).

I had a couple of questions regarding how things work over in Thailand.

1) A friend told me that if we are taking a Tuk Tuk or a Taxi to a club or a massage place, then we don't have to pay the driver as the establishment pays them a commission to bring customers. Is this true? If so how does it work?

2) From RTFF I gather that the bar fine for a girl is fixed and her rate is subject to bargaining. Is my understanding correct?

3) When I go to a massage place like Honey or Rasputin are we allowed to talk with the girl before we select her and go to the room to do the deed? Or is it just a selection based on looks and we get whatever service the girl wants to provide?

4) What are the Clubs\Go Go's which are a "must visit"?

5) When we book a double bedroom in a hotel is it understood by the hotel that we will bring a "guest" with us for the night? Or do they create issues and ask for a joiner fee?

I understand how valuable mongering time is, so any help on the above mentioned points or any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]Unbelieveable. I am speechless.

[QUOTE=TheTank85;1810313]I am planning for a nine day trip to Pattaya (4 Days), Phuket (2 Days) and then to end it with Bangkok (3 Days).
[/QUOTE]You'll be spending more time flying and in taxi's when you should be on the ground. I'd cut out Phuket until you can manage a longer trip. I notice most of your posts are in the India section, if your Indian be warned you might not get into many of the clubs.

You guys who have been posting about it are right. These Thai girls have a sort of fascination with skin color and prefer lighter skin as "better". I never doubted this was true, but to be here and experience it is something. I was with a very attractive girl from Baccara tonight, and in between sessions her "skin speech" went something like this. "You brown, you brown. You no black you brown! You chocolate man. You brown like Asian. I like brown. You no black. I had chocolate boyfriend from San Francisco. He brown like you. I like white too. I like white. But when falang get old skin no good. Skin wrinkly and ugly. Old white lady too skin no good. Brown skin like Asian good". WTF LOL?

I have not noticed a lot of really dark-skinned guys with Thai girls here in Thailand, but I have noticed a few. Holding hands and making plans. At least for the next couple of hours anyway hahaha! So, I guess there's somebody for everybody here. But if you're really dark-skinned in Thailand, you are definitely going to be seen as "less beautiful" or maybe even unattractive by many, many of the Thai tutes. Not saying they won't go with you. Just reporting on what I've been hearing from the horse's mouth in Pattaya and Phuket too so far.

Tank,

Make sure your booking is for 2 people. As others said, read the hotels forums for the cities you want to visit. All the info is in there.

For me best talent in BKK gogo was Baccara. Also check out Crazy House. Girls are full nude there.

You can get to Honey 1, Honey 2, Rasputin, Sabai Dee, Sabai Room, soi 6, soi 7 and 8, Walking Street, Beach Road FL's all for 10 baht on a baht bus. Hopefully you're not trying to save 10 baht. Google map everywhere you want to go before your trip. I found getting around a breeze.

I negotiated a tuk tuk to take me from Soi Cowboy to drive me up and down to check out the soi 4 FL's, then to Nana for 80 baht. Not sure if that was cheap or not but really inexpensive imo. Otherwise take the BTS from Asoke to Nana for 15(?) baht or just walk they are not far apart.

Just returned from a week in Pattaya, stayed at the holiday inn on the beach front. Nothing has changed much apart from the number of tourists, I have never seen it so quiet there are bargains to be had!

May the force be with you.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1810476]You'll be spending more time flying and in taxi's when you should be on the ground. I'd cut out Phuket until you can manage a longer trip. I notice most of your posts are in the India section, if your Indian be warned you might not get into many of the clubs.[/QUOTE]Or you can cut out Pattaya, reduce your days in Bangkok, and spend most of your time in Phuket or Ko Samui, (especially Samui). Not as much girl action as Pattaya, but enough for you. And a much nicer place!

[QUOTE=HenryR;1810532]Or you can cut out Pattaya, reduce your days in Bangkok, and spend most of your time in Phuket or Ko Samui, (especially Samui). Not as much girl action as Pattaya, but enough for you. And a much nicer place![/QUOTE]I agree with you 100% that of the three places Phuket is the nicest and the most comfortable place to be. I wish I had spent less time in Pattaya and more in Phuket. In my opinion, Phuket requires a minimum of 3 days for the first time visitor. That said, I have so far found the best talent to be in Bangkok followed by Phuket.

It figures that the place I liked the least as a city (Bangkok) would have the best talent according to my personal tastes. Such is life! But if you're a newbie to Thailand, you can't cut out Bangkok. You have to go to Bangkok. There's just too much to see and do there. On a first trip, I think Bangkok deserves 4 to 5 days minimum.

Pattaya has the most talent in a more compact radius when you add it all up, but I did not find it to be the best talent. For example, I was in Pattaya for four days before I found somebody I wanted to bang!

Now, I have to admit that I'm not attracted to most Asian women, so that's what was going on with me. But if Asian women are your thing, then Pattaya will be like you died and went to Heaven.

Tank, if you only have 9 days, then I would take one away from Pattaya and give it to Phuket, As Breadman noted, it would be better if you could plan a little longer trip so as to give each major Thai mongering destination it's due consideration.

[QUOTE=LukeSkyWanker;1810518]Just returned from a week in Pattaya, stayed at the holiday inn on the beach front. Nothing has changed much apart from the number of tourists, I have never seen it so quiet there are bargains to be had!

May the force be with you.[/QUOTE]We must have crossed, LOL, 1 week also.

Best sense of guest friendly, rooms are great and the girls love it. I like the transparent shower cabins, watching a shy girl preparing for the deed is a great appetizer.

I had a top floor (26'th) executive room, with a fantastic view of the bay and Pattaya city. As it's above neighbouring Markland hotel and condos you have enough privacy to fuck your girls on the balcony at nighttime when the sea breeze chills you down for such activities.

Soi 6 within walking distance and a motorbike station right at the ground floor Havana bar makes it easy to get to other points of action.

[QUOTE=RockHound74;1810123]Thanks and I agree with you! I will be in BKK in 3 days and Nat is "cumming" to see me of course. She will have the night and I will have the days. Maybe a soapie, BJ bar. Etc. She and I will be talking about the whole "you see people and I will too". She does like girls too but is embarrassed to bring a girl back with us. I am going to try to change that this trip!

Stay safe!

The Rock[/QUOTE]Great buddy. Have fun and good luck getting that threesome together with your girl. You are living the life.

I wish, my little thaigir was not so damn jealous. I'd also like to live a little. That's not a typo she really does turn into a tiger and then we have great makeup sex. But I may need to drop her soon.

[QUOTE=TheCane;1810491]You guys who have been posting about it are right. These Thai girls have a sort of fascination with skin color and prefer lighter skin as "better". I never doubted this was true, but to be here and experience it is something. I was with a very attractive girl from Baccara tonight, and in between sessions her "skin speech" went something like this. "You brown, you brown. You no black you brown! You chocolate man. You brown like Asian. I like brown. You no black. I had chocolate boyfriend from San Francisco. He brown like you. I like white too. I like white. But when falang get old skin no good. Skin wrinkly and ugly. Old white lady too skin no good. Brown skin like Asian good". WTF LOL?

I have not noticed a lot of really dark-skinned guys with Thai girls here in Thailand, but I have noticed a few. Holding hands and making plans. At least for the next couple of hours anyway hahaha! So, I guess there's somebody for everybody here. But if you're really dark-skinned in Thailand, you are definitely going to be seen as "less beautiful" or maybe even unattractive by many, many of the Thai tutes. Not saying they won't go with you. Just reporting on what I've been hearing from the horse's mouth in Pattaya and Phuket too so far.[/QUOTE]Well said. But ultimately their fascination is with the color "green". 555.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1810514]Tank,

Make sure your booking is for 2 people. As others said, read the hotels forums for the cities you want to visit. All the info is in there.

For me best talent in BKK gogo was Baccara. Also check out Crazy House. Girls are full nude there.

You can get to Honey 1, Honey 2, Rasputin, Sabai Dee, Sabai Room, soi 6, soi 7 and 8, Walking Street, Beach Road FL's all for 10 baht on a baht bus. Hopefully you're not trying to save 10 baht. Google map everywhere you want to go before your trip. I found getting around a breeze.

I negotiated a tuk tuk to take me from Soi Cowboy to drive me up and down to check out the soi 4 FL's, then to Nana for 80 baht. Not sure if that was cheap or not but really inexpensive imo. Otherwise take the BTS from Asoke to Nana for 15(?) baht or just walk they are not far apart.[/QUOTE]Banana Boi,

Thanks for all the info! Yes, I have marked most of the "Points of Interest" on Google Maps.

I will add some of the ones I have missed.

TheTank

[QUOTE=Breadman;1810476]You'll be spending more time flying and in taxi's when you should be on the ground. I'd cut out Phuket until you can manage a longer trip. I notice most of your posts are in the India section, if your Indian be warned you might not get into many of the clubs.[/QUOTE]Breadman,

Yes, I am Indian and I am aware that many clubs don't allow us in and think of us as a nuisance, a lot of Indians visitors have spoilt it for the rest of us, however I have heard that there is a workaround for this if we say that we want an entire bottle and a table we (Indians) get VIP Service from the Club, I am not sure if this is true or not but I will try it and report back to the forum. I will be looking forward to visiting Tony's Club.

Thanks for all your suggestions. I will surely take all your advice under consideration.

TheTank

[QUOTE=TheCane;1810549]I agree with you 100% that of the three places Phuket is the nicest and the most comfortable place to be. I wish I had spent less time in Pattaya and more in Phuket. In my opinion, Phuket requires a minimum of 3 days for the first time visitor. That said, I have so far found the best talent to be in Bangkok followed by Phuket.

It figures that the place I liked the least as a city (Bangkok) would have the best talent according to my personal tastes. Such is life! But if you're a newbie to Thailand, you can't cut out Bangkok. You have to go to Bangkok. There's just too much to see and do there. On a first trip, I think Bangkok deserves 4 to 5 days minimum.

Pattaya has the most talent in a more compact radius when you add it all up, but I did not find it to be the best talent. For example, I was in Pattaya for four days before I found somebody I wanted to bang!

Now, I have to admit that I'm not attracted to most Asian women, so that's what was going on with me. But if Asian women are your thing, then Pattaya will be like you died and went to Heaven.

Tank, if you only have 9 days, then I would take one away from Pattaya and give it to Phuket, As Breadman noted, it would be better if you could plan a little longer trip so as to give each major Thai mongering destination it's due consideration.[/QUOTE]The Cane,

Thanks for your suggestions, yes I was also thinking of increasing the number of days for Phuket as well. A longer trip is not possible at this point in time and have only 9 days max I can spare. Oh well just increases my chances of planning another trip in the future.

TheTank

[QUOTE=TheTank85;1810313]I am in the planning phase of my trip to Thailand in the beginning of February in 2016.

SNIP

I understand how valuable mongering time is, so any help on the above mentioned points or any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]Make sure you read the ROD threads on each location. There are some very solid reports there. Specially ones on how not to get ripped off.

[QUOTE=TheTank85;1810670]I will be looking forward to visiting Tony's Club.[/QUOTE]Hey man don't give away the secret. On the other hand most of the guys who post here do the gogos so we don't have to worry about them in the discos.

[QUOTE=TheTank85;1810670]Breadman,

Yes, I am Indian and I am aware that many clubs don't allow us in and think of us as a nuisance, a lot of Indians visitors have spoilt it for the rest of us, however I have heard that there is a workaround for this if we say that we want an entire bottle and a table we (Indians) get VIP Service from the Club, I am not sure if this is true or not but I will try it and report back to the forum. I will be looking forward to visiting Tony's Club.

Thanks for all your suggestions. I will surely take all your advice under consideration.

TheTank[/QUOTE]I think the odds are stacked against you, bias can't be overcome with a bottle. You might gain entry in a club or two but then you'll be dealing with the girls who won't want to be barfined by you in fear of finding a group of men waiting back at your hotel....each guy in your group is staying in their own room correct?

[QUOTE=Breadman;1810959]I think the odds are stacked against you, bias can't be overcome with a bottle. You might gain entry in a club or two but then you'll be dealing with the girls who won't want to be barfined by you in fear of finding a group of men waiting back at your hotel....each guy in your group is staying in their own room correct?[/QUOTE]I think the bottle service may do it. It seems to me these places will not let Indians in is because they think they will not spend cash. Same goes for the Russians. At Red Car I have witnessed a Russian couple be let in but they were told they had a 3 drink minimum. A doorman would come by every 15 minutes reminding them of it.

No doubt, Phuket is the most beautiful place to spend time in Thailand.

Its like south Goa but far less crowd and pollution but more white sand.

In my knowledge and experience mongering is more easier and cheap for first timers in Pattaya.

As far as travelling for nightlife is concerned, if you are staying near second road and central Pattaya road you can reach to most of the happening places in no time with abaht bus that charges 10 b I. E. 20 INR for any distance on beach road and second road. Just don't ask "how much?" To the baht bus driver. BTW baht bus is not like a typical Indian bus, its like our tata207 model with arrangement of seats in the rear trunk.

For most of the tourist places like underwater world, sriracha zoo or even Russian show and 69 show, you can get a cab for free since the get commission from the venues they are taking you to. But it would be wise to visit any soapy or other mongering place on your own using baht bus and a little walk.

Peace!

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1810794]Make sure you read the ROD threads on each location. There are some very solid reports there. Specially ones on how not to get ripped off.[/QUOTE]Blanquiceleste,

Sure will do.

Thank you for your insight.

TheTank

I.

First, if you can't get in whatever you want to do is not relevant. And if you do get in why bother to do bottle service unless the girls want to drink and go with you. I would just buy a drink first and go from there. It is sad that you have to overspend needlessly. There are plenty of Go Go's on W. S. That will allow Indians that dress Western style into Go Go's particularly on Soi Diamond and Soi 15, alone. If all is lost give Katoey R.Us a try on Soi Dimond.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1810959]I think the odds are stacked against you, bias can't be overcome with a bottle. You might gain entry in a club or two but then you'll be dealing with the girls who won't want to be barfined by you in fear of finding a group of men waiting back at your hotel....each guy in your group is staying in their own room correct?[/QUOTE]I will try a see if the technique works or not and I will report back on the forum. Sometimes when the odds are stacked up against you makes it even more of a adventure.

Actually its not a group its just 2 of us who are going and we are having separate rooms so we can enjoy in private.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1810877]Hey man don't give away the secret. On the other hand most of the guys who post here do the gogos so we don't have to worry about them in the discos.[/QUOTE]Mr Enternational,

I think everyone on this forum are giving away their secrets and valuable insights. If we are able to help each other then why not?

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1811148]I.

First, if you can't get in whatever you want to do is not relevant. And if you do get in why bother to do bottle service unless the girls want to drink and go with you. I would just buy a drink first and go from there. It is sad that you have to overspend needlessly. There are plenty of Go Go's on W. S. That will allow Indians that dress Western style into Go Go's particularly on Soi Diamond and Soi 15, alone. If all is lost give Katoey R.Us a try on Soi Dimond.[/QUOTE]LittleBigMan,

Yeah, its kind of sad that a few have spoilt it for the rest of us, and because of these few most of the others who have come to have a good time are the ones who have to pay the price of it. I have heard a lot about how Indians are behaving over there and creating a bad image for the lot of us. Oh well what can you do?

I have made a list of places to visit and Go Go's are on the list too, I will add your suggestions to it as well.

Thank you for your help!

TheTank

[QUOTE=TheTank85;1810313]1) A friend told me that if we are taking a Tuk Tuk or a Taxi to a club or a massage place, then we don't have to pay the driver as the establishment pays them a commission to bring customers. Is this true? If so how does it work?[/QUOTE]If a tuk tuk or taxi takes you to his choice of massage parlor, he gets a commission. You will have to negotiate with the driver to give you a free ride (easily done). You probably can even negotiate so that he pays you a kickback. But as written previously, you will pay more overall.

[QUOTE=TheTank85;1810313]2) From RTFF I gather that the bar fine for a girl is fixed and her rate is subject to bargaining. Is my understanding correct?[/QUOTE]Yes. I've never seen people trying to haggle down the bar fine. Wondering if some places will accept. But IMO this might give you a bad cheap reputation.

[QUOTE=TheTank85;1810313]5) When we book a double bedroom in a hotel is it understood by the hotel that we will bring a "guest" with us for the night? Or do they create issues and ask for a joiner fee?[/QUOTE]Many / most hotels in Pattaya will not have a joiner fee for 1 guest. Many will have a joiner fee if you bring in more than 1 girl (I hate this policy!) Some (not many) hotels do not want this type of business and will apply a joiner fee for the first girl. You need to find out. There is a site that lists the girl friendly hotels, or ask the hotel.

[QUOTE=TheTank85;1811154]LittleBigMan,

Yeah, its kind of sad that a few have spoilt it for the rest of us, and because of these few most of the others who have come to have a good time are the ones who have to pay the price of it. I have heard a lot about how Indians are behaving over there and creating a bad image for the lot of us. Oh well what can you do?

I have made a list of places to visit and Go Go's are on the list too, I will add your suggestions to it as well.

Thank you for your help!

TheTank[/QUOTE]As noted in the past, I do not think in general any of the Indians we are talking about will be on this board. The one's here I think I can safely say are more educated. More well manner and have been living or working outside of Indian etc. To be more in tune with many of the western ways like in dressing. I'm somewhat of a people watcher when I go down to W. S. And like to stand outside the Walkway that leads to Happy Gogo, one can learn a lot just standing and watching. I do not have the exact words to describe the profile we have of Indians and how they dress and walk around in groups. I've seen a number of them go the path to Happy and then a minute of so later they are walking back down. The Thais general profile and when they come down in small groups (3-5) along with their style of dress the majority of the time they get turn away at the more popular venues. If you do not know what I am talking about just stand in one place long enough to watch. I stand around that area because in general many of these Indians stay around the small Soi just across from Lucifers P72, up to 2nd Road, and back of W. S. A area called Marine. Up from Marine Soi 17? Along V. See Hotel these Soi is know where many Mid-Eastern stay. I believe the more Western dress you are the greater chance you will be able to get in. A simple item is like a Ball cap for example with a Niki logo, shirt, shorts, as I noted Thais do a lot of profiling. Now if you decide to wear shorts and follow that up with black socks and streets shoes I myself will kick you out. If you do not believe me as you approach a place and the door man spots and check out his body language he will be giving you the head toe number if he is not sure. I personally get this theory because I can be mistaken for Thai, but I get this head toe number because I'm always in shorts with sports shoes like Nike, etc. Then they assume I'm Japanese or Korean. Instead of bottle service and overpaying for drinks and such invest in some western wear or a cap? .

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1811275]A simple item is like a Ball cap for example with a Niki logo, shirt, shorts, as I noted Thais do a lot of profiling. If you do not believe me as you approach a place and the door man spots and check out his body language he will be giving you the head toe number if he is not sure. I personally get this theory because I can be mistaken for Thai, but I get this head toe number because I'm always in shorts with sports shoes like Nike, etc. Then they assume I'm Japanese or Korean. Instead of bottle service and overpaying for drinks and such invest in some western wear or a cap?[/QUOTE]This is some handy advice Little Big Man, but it is absolutely not fail proof! I know because I dress in exactly the manner that you suggest when mongering, and I have been denied entry to three bars in Thailand. Two in Bangkok and one in Pattaya (wasn't Happy Go-Go where I was welcomed with open arms). Probably because they thought I was Indian. I will be writing about these experiences in detail a little later. Look for the post to come. And remember that I was dressed as you recommend.

[QUOTE=TheTank85;1811154] Oh well what can you do? [/QUOTE]Like LBM said, try to blend in. What's the first thing people spot to identify someone as coming from India? I'd have to say the unwashed long greasy hair is the first thing that comes to mind. If its hot and humid, westerners shave off most of their hair (either a buzz cut or by going bald). I've met younger Indians at home in the states who had buzz cuts and they blended in completely. A buzz cut and a baseball cap are the way to go. All depends on what lengths you and your buddy will go to get into these clubs. Try it first your way, saying you'll buy a bottle. Try it by trying to dress like a westerner. If that fails there are tons of barber shops that will give you a buzz cut in Pattaya. I use them every trip.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1811275]As noted in the past, I do not think in general any of the Indians we are talking about will be on this board. The one's here I think I can safely say are more educated. More well manner and have been living or working outside of Indian etc. To be more in tune with many of the western ways like in dressing. I'm somewhat of a people watcher when I go down to W. S. And like to stand outside the Walkway that leads to Happy Gogo, one can learn a lot just standing and watching. I do not have the exact words to describe the profile we have of Indians and how they dress and walk around in groups. I've seen a number of them go the path to Happy and then a minute of so later they are walking back down. The Thais general profile and when they come down in small groups (3-5) along with their style of dress the majority of the time they get turn away at the more popular venues. If you do not know what I am talking about just stand in one place long enough to watch. I stand around that area because in general many of these Indians stay around the small Soi just across from Lucifers P72, up to 2nd Road, and back of W. S. A area called Marine. Up from Marine Soi 17? Along V. See Hotel these Soi is know where many Mid-Eastern stay. I believe the more Western dress you are the greater chance you will be able to get in. A simple item is like a Ball cap for example with a Niki logo, shirt, shorts, as I noted Thais do a lot of profiling..[/QUOTE]LittleBigMan,

I am a people watcher too and I too like to observe people when they think nobody is watching them, as they say you are your true self when no one is watching you.

I can agree with you on all the points you mentioned. I understand that there is an acceptable dressing sense one needs follow while going to a club, and I follow that when I go to any club be it in India, UK or Dubai. I will report back with how things go when I am there.

Kind regards,

TheTank

[QUOTE=GreenBud;1811224]If a tuk tuk or taxi takes you to his choice of massage parlor, he gets a commission. You will have to negotiate with the driver to give you a free ride (easily done). You probably can even negotiate so that he pays you a kickback. But as written previously, you will pay more overall.

Yes. I've never seen people trying to haggle down the bar fine. Wondering if some places will accept. But IMO this might give you a bad cheap reputation.

Many / most hotels in Pattaya will not have a joiner fee for 1 guest. Many will have a joiner fee if you bring in more than 1 girl (I hate this policy!) Some (not many) hotels do not want this type of business and will apply a joiner fee for the first girl. You need to find out. There is a site that lists the girl friendly hotels, or ask the hotel.[/QUOTE]GreenBud,

Thank you for your valuable feedback.

1) Yeah a friend was telling me that if we take a tuk tuk or a taxi to a place of our choice sometimes the driver is given a commission of around 100 Baht, so he doesn't need to take money from the passengers. I was just trying to confirm what my friend was saying.

2) I was just trying to know how things work over there, so as to not come across as a cheaper. Being an Indian I need to be more careful, I don't want to tarnish our already bad reputation any further.

3) I will be sure to confirm with the hotel before booking my room.

A big thank you once again, I am sure a lot of first time visitors will find your feedback really helpful.

TheTank

[QUOTE=Breadman;1811370]Like LBM said, try to blend in. [/QUOTE]Good luck with that. Thai are experts in profiling, be it your ethnicity or your social status. It comes as second nature to them.

Getting a hair cut is not going to change that very much.

The best our Indian brethren can hope for is to be identified as Indians (little chance to avoid that) of "upper class" of "Hi so" by not running around in boisterous packs, being clean and wearing nice clothes.

Don't look like a beaten dog, but look the doorman right in the eye, smile and pose as the esteemed guest of the Club you indeed are, whereas the doorman is only an employee, appointed to keep the riff-raff out and open the door for you.

Walking 5 times past the door, furtively looking out of the corner of your eyes and then hesitating to go in, will surely not be your best approach.

They may charge you a drink to allow you in, just accept it gracefully as you were going to order a drink anyhow. It even happened to me once in Baccara in Soi Cowboy when I went there with my GF. They sold us a drink before we could go in as quite right they assumed I was not visiting them to barfine another girl. Strangely enough, Suzi Wong allowed us in without any fuzz, but then again Suzi Wong is my favorite agogo club.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1811413] Thai are experts in profiling. [/QUOTE]I would agree wholeheartedly. Try doing a slow stroll down Cowboy wearing a wife beater, shorts, and flip-flops. Then, a week or so later do the same slow stroll dressed in business casual and note the difference in how well you are received.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1811413]Good luck with that. Thai are experts in profiling, be it your ethnicity or your social status. It comes as second nature to them.

Getting a hair cut is not going to change that very much.

[/QUOTE]But wouldn't going to that extreme confound the door guys just a bit? How many bald headed Indians might they have seen on the job? My guess is none. It would work much better than wearing a nike shirt. Another thing to consider is trying to enter separately, one might make it in whereas two will be denied. The other guy has to try another bar on his own.

[QUOTE=TheTank85;1807163]Hello guys,

I am planning a trip to LOS in Mid Feb with one of my best friends and thought it would be a good idea to get a good 4* Hotel with a suite with 2 attached rooms and a common hall.

Do anyone have an idea about any such hotels or service apartments? I was thinking of booking somewhere close to where all the action is.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

And while we are on the subject, wrong choice to be looking for what's basically 'one room'. A girl will freak out if you bring her back and your buddy is sitting in the main area or she see's another door that's closed. You might even consider staying in hotels next to each other instead of the same hotel, if one of you manages to get a girl back to the room she might ask how many guys are with you to the receptionist.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1806696]Of course, the catch is that you then have to wait until 2 or 3 AM before they leave their bars or agogo-clubs. By that time I'm already long satisfied and asleep with a cute SYT in my arms. And which girls are available at that hour? Indeed, those who failed to get chosen for LT or girls who did a few ST already. Speaking of "sloppy seconds".

You can get lucky of course and your choice is certainly still out there ... somewhere, but I find it tedious to still hunt at that hour and spend my time in noisy disco's.[/QUOTE]Different stokes for different people. I like to go out later. My preference.

You better guess again if you think you aren't getting sloppy seconds. That girl you took at 11 pm or 12 am probably already went for a ST. They go in early (about 7 or 8) and can easily do a short time before you even got there. Secondly, who ever took her last night enjoyed her again in the afternoon before sending her home. So she just got boned a few hours before. So she was already plowed through. Lastly, guys like me already got her number and had her come over before work. I like to have them come before they go to work (avoiding the high ass bar fine) and bone them. Then I send her away already wet. So again, already sloppy. If you think you are getting them fresh, in addition to paying huge bar fines, might want to rethink that one.

I like having something set up for early afternoons if possible. Then I'll venture out around 4 pm looking for something suitable. I'll then try out a short time girl somewhere from a gogo or a beer bar early in the evening. I'll then party on, maybe run into something worth taking for another round or look for something LT. I do like the atmosphere of the clubs and like to get out, try to bring a ST girl along and turn it into LT. What worked great for me last trip was finding girls who would come over after work and stay the night, let me sample here and there while knowing I had dinner planned for later.

[QUOTE=TheCane;1811286]This is some handy advice Little Big Man, but it is absolutely not fail proof! I know because I dress in exactly the manner that you suggest when mongering, and I have been denied entry to three bars in Thailand. Two in Bangkok and one in Pattaya (wasn't Happy Go-Go where I was welcomed with open arms). Probably because they thought I was Indian. I will be writing about these experiences in detail a little later. Look for the post to come. And remember that I was dressed as you recommend.[/QUOTE]I be crazy to disagree, Clothing is only a small %, one can't change how you facially look or speak and how you rap back to the doorman. Next up is getting a greenback out and ready if the first doesn't work 100 baht,, just like home. I've never had a problem going anywhere or rejected in Thailand including the Temples with my general Nike shorts, Golf type shirts or sports shoes. Of course I do not have greasy hair, smell. Personally I do not believe in going too far just to go in? Now if you want to throw them off, up the ante, get yourself a suit and a tie, or even a tuxudo with top hat and cane, now if that doesn't do it I just settle for Hamburger the rest of my trip and get a room at Soi 6, or Soi Honey. If your timing is right you might want to hookup with some of the Expats Go Go bar and go go crawls. I been to a few and once in a while there is someone Indian and I've haven't notice them not being denied entry?

[QUOTE=Breadman;1811370]Like LBM said, try to blend in. What's the first thing people spot to identify someone as coming from India? I'd have to say the unwashed long greasy hair is the first thing that comes to mind. If its hot and humid, westerners shave off most of their hair (either a buzz cut or by going bald). I've met younger Indians at home in the states who had buzz cuts and they blended in completely. A buzz cut and a baseball cap are the way to go. All depends on what lengths you and your buddy will go to get into these clubs. Try it first your way, saying you'll buy a bottle. Try it by trying to dress like a westerner. If that fails there are tons of barber shops that will give you a buzz cut in Pattaya. I use them every trip.[/QUOTE]Breadman,

Sounds as if I am going on some clandestine mission. Most of the time I wear smart casuals (chinos and a polo t-shirt) and under no circumstances do I have oil in my hair, the modern Indian youngster has changed a lot and we have moved away from the typical Indian some people have in mind, though there are some outliers. I shall try all mentioned tactics and report back with which one worked.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1811413]Good luck with that. Thai are experts in profiling, be it your ethnicity or your social status. It comes as second nature to them.

Getting a hair cut is not going to change that very much.

The best our Indian brethren can hope for is to be identified as Indians (little chance to avoid that) of "upper class" of "Hi so" by not running around in boisterous packs, being clean and wearing nice clothes.

Don't look like a beaten dog, but look the doorman right in the eye, smile and pose as the esteemed guest of the Club you indeed are, whereas the doorman is only an employee, appointed to keep the riff-raff out and open the door for you.

Walking 5 times past the door, furtively looking out of the corner of your eyes and then hesitating to go in, will surely not be your best approach.

They may charge you a drink to allow you in, just accept it gracefully as you were going to order a drink anyhow. It even happened to me once in Baccara in Soi Cowboy when I went there with my GF. They sold us a drink before we could go in as quite right they assumed I was not visiting them to barfine another girl. Strangely enough, Suzi Wong allowed us in without any fuzz, but then again Suzi Wong is my favorite agogo club.[/QUOTE]Wolvenvacht,

Yes I agree, being confident is key to getting in, if we look shabby and act jumpy I am sure the doorman will think that we are up to no good and deny entry, they will also restrict entry to people who they think are not going to spend money and just take up space in the club, I intend to spend money and have a good time at the clubs, if I have to I don't mind tipping the doorman either.

And I also agree with the point that they may charge me for the drink, as it is who is going to go in a club and not have a drink?

Thank you for all the help.

TheTank

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1811443]Different stokes for different people. I like to go out later. My preference.

You better guess again if you think you aren't getting sloppy seconds. That girl you took at 11 pm or 12 am probably already went for a ST. They go in early (about 7 or 8) and can easily do a short time before you even got there. Secondly, who ever took her last night enjoyed her again in the afternoon before sending her home. So she just got boned a few hours before. So she was already plowed through. Lastly, guys like me already got her number and had her come over before work. I like to have them come before they go to work (avoiding the high ass bar fine) and bone them. Then I send her away already wet. So again, already sloppy. If you think you are getting them fresh, in addition to paying huge bar fines, might want to rethink that one.[/QUOTE]So when she comes to you before she goes to work the guy who took her last night enjoyed her again that same afternoon.... LOL!

[QUOTE=Mogwai;1811652]So when she comes to you before she goes to work the guy who took her last night enjoyed her again that same afternoon.... LOL![/QUOTE]Can't slip anything past you now can I. I'm a little bit more clever than that though. I ask the girl in a joking way if she was 'busy' as in if she has fucked already (if she was, I let her be). And follow that up by asking if she is horny. At least this way she is a bit fresher. ;)

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1811443]Different stokes for different people. I like to go out later. My preference.[/QUOTE]Perfectly! We will divide the world between us two. I go early, you go late.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1811443]You better guess again if you think you aren't getting sloppy seconds.[/QUOTE]Someone much wiser than me once said "One shower and she is as good as new, almost a virgin again".

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1812017]
Someone much wiser than me once said "One shower and she is as good as new, almost a virgin again".[/QUOTE]Hose her down and hand her the mouthwash.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1812017]Perfectly! We will divide the world between us two. I go early, you go late.[/QUOTE]Not exactly. For the gogo girls that I know (and have met both at a gogo or out and about), I have them come over 'before' she goes to work. So you are actually getting them later. I leave that barfining stuff to you.

And yes, they always need a good cleaning to make 'em almost good as new! (at least new for the next customer) :-) It's like buying a used car. Nice and clean, polished, and ready for delivery.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1811443]Different stokes for different people. I like to go out later. My preference.

You better guess again if you think you aren't getting sloppy seconds. That girl you took at 11 pm or 12 am probably already went for a ST. They go in early (about 7 or 8) and can easily do a short time before you even got there. Secondly, who ever took her last night enjoyed her again in the afternoon before sending her home. So she just got boned a few hours before. So she was already plowed through. Lastly, guys like me already got her number and had her come over before work. I like to have them come before they go to work (avoiding the high ass bar fine) and bone them. Then I send her away already wet. So again, already sloppy. If you think you are getting them fresh, in addition to paying huge bar fines, might want to rethink that one.[/QUOTE]A bargirl liked very much to do her first (maybe) short time for the evening with me at 6 PM. That way, she had one out of the way and a nice money start, before she even arrived at work. She did not like to take LT as it typically limited her earnings potential (LT possible for larger sums or very well liked customers). However logically she isn't a virgin so freshness is only relative and we would not know for sure if she just met some other guy at his Hotel at 4 PM. Don't be so smug. Just accept that you are helping out a girl to take her at some time that is not normally so popular with all the other dudes, so she can make more money all up.

These Thai girls clean thoroughly and popular girls are able to choose less difficult customers that will not leave them devoid of energy. They are clean. Sloppy seconds is emotional bullshit.

I think many of us agree though, for girls that have too many customers, it's better to be an early customer. Arriving at shops not far from closing time is a bad idea. Girls can be very drunk late in the evening ( or sometimes even early). Drunk girls is also not a good idea.

If you haven't been here is awhile, new places abound. I recently took a buddy further to North Pattaya and Naklua. He had never been that far up. New bars, cleaner streets / sidewalks (the walkways were previously all gravel, dirt, etc.), and new girls.

In the whole LK Metro area, including Soi Buakhao, there are also new bars. Sport bars, bars with girls, and new gogos. Plenty of new faces all around. Got to love it.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1812267]A bargirl liked very much to do her first (maybe) short time for the evening with me at 6 PM. That way, she had one out of the way and a nice money start, before she even arrived at work. She did not like to take LT as it typically limited her earnings potential (LT possible for larger sums or very well liked customers). However logically she isn't a virgin so freshness is only relative and we would not know for sure if she just met some other guy at his Hotel at 4 PM. Don't be so smug .......

These Thai girls clean thoroughly and popular girls are able to choose less difficult customers that will not leave them devoid of energy. They are clean. Sloppy seconds is emotional bullshit.

I think many of us agree though, for girls that have too many customers, it's better to be an early customer. Arriving at shops not far from closing time is a bad idea. Girls can be very drunk late in the evening ( or sometimes even early). Drunk girls is also not a good idea.[/QUOTE]Obviously they are not virgins. That sloppy seconds comment was for the other poster.

I can assure you one thing, I prefer not to have a girl who just got done. Which is why I rarely go to Soi 6. When I do go there, it's just to drink with friends and hang out before heading someplace else.

[QUOTE=TheTank85;1811585]Wolvenvacht,

Yes I agree, being confident is key to getting in, if we look shabby and act jumpy I am sure the doorman will think that we are up to no good and deny entry, they will also restrict entry to people who they think are not going to spend money and just take up space in the club, I intend to spend money and have a good time at the clubs, if I have to I don't mind tipping the doorman either.

And I also agree with the point that they may charge me for the drink, as it is who is going to go in a club and not have a drink?

Thank you for all the help.

TheTank[/QUOTE]Wish you the best of luck, just remember each club has different bouncers working so don't give up on one club if your turned away, they might have different bouncers working the following night. Had an idea but not sure if it would work. All of the clubs have girls standing outside, you might start up a chat with a few girls and offer to buy them drinks inside. If the bouncers turn you away you'll have the girls fighting for your admission to the club. Not sure tipping the bouncer on the way in would work but I'd definately tip them on the way out if you plan to return.

Hi,

I have done most of the mongering in Dominican republic and Colombia. Where I always has to negotiate for BBBJ with girls before the session. My question is that in Thailand do I have to negotiate with girls for BBBJ, if yes then would they understand in English or I have to find a way to translate. This would be same for GOGO girls, beer bar or FL's or different for different girl.

Thanks for the info.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Chotu;1812682]Hi,

I have done most of the mongering in Dominican republic and Colombia. Where I always has to negotiate for BBBJ with girls before the session. My question is that in Thailand do I have to negotiate with girls for BBBJ, if yes then would they understand in English or I have to find a way to translate. This would be same for GOGO girls, beer bar or FL's or different for different girl.

Thanks for the info.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]If it's important to you then yes always negotiate for what you want. Generally speaking I receive BBBJ most of the time fro Gogo dancers and almost none of the time in a soapie. Quite a few girls will speak some English in Pattaya and almost all will be able to understand the sexual vocabulary that's needed to land a client.

Anybody some intel about Ban Chang these days. I normally make a stopover there at my return trip from Sihanoukville. Last time, 2 years ago it was quite depressing as the hotel at the end of the strip was fully booked so I had to get a room in the Pub where the strip begins. Reasonable food and drinks but very rundown rooms. OK for a night but I prefer a higher standard. Almost no customers at the strip and girls tried to compensate the Thai way by increasing the ST rates to 1500 bt. Finally I drank wine, a lot of wine with the lady barkeeper of Mon bar and had a nice time with her after closing hours.

[QUOTE=Chotu;1812682]Hi,

I have done most of the mongering in Dominican republic and Colombia. Where I always has to negotiate for BBBJ with girls before the session. My question is that in Thailand do I have to negotiate with girls for BBBJ, if yes then would they understand in English or I have to find a way to translate. This would be same for GOGO girls, beer bar or FL's or different for different girl.

Thanks for the info.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]In my experience you don't have to negotiate for BBBJ in Pattaya, not with gogo or beer bar girls and FL's anyway. 99,9% of the girls will do it. Exceptions may be girls in soapies (but that's a waste of money anyway IMHO) and some real stunners in the gogo's. I think it's even better NOT to negotiate BBBJ because it gives away that you're a newbie (in Pattaya anyway).

Last year I barfined a drop dead gorgeous little spinner from the Happy Agogo without negotiating any particular service. Once in my room she insisted on CBJ. This could have been a mood killer for me and I thought about sending her away but she was such a nice and intelligent (yes, there are exceptions) girl and so damn cute that I gave her the benefit of the doubt. She gave me exceptionally good service; one of the best gogo girls I ever had. She stayed for 2 hours because I DID negotiate the time she would stay with me. If you don't do that she might say, after you've payed the barfine, that she has to be back in the agogo in 1 hour.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;1812922]In my experience you don't have to negotiate for BBBJ in Pattaya, not with gogo or beer bar girls and FL's anyway. 99,9% of the girls will do it. Exceptions may be girls in soapies (but that's a waste of money anyway IMHO) and some real stunners in the gogo's. I think it's even better NOT to negotiate BBBJ because it gives away that you're a newbie (in Pattaya anyway).

Last year I barfined a drop dead gorgeous little spinner from the Happy Agogo without negotiating any particular service. Once in my room she insisted on CBJ. This could have been a mood killer for me and I thought about sending her away but she was such a nice and intelligent (yes, there are exceptions) girl and so damn cute that I gave her the benefit of the doubt. She gave me exceptionally good service; one of the best gogo girls I ever had. She stayed for 2 hours because I DID negotiate the time she would stay with me. If you don't do that she might say, after you've payed the barfine, that she has to be back in the agogo in 1 hour.[/QUOTE]Great points Mogwai and the girls puck up easily on the novice giveaways. Like you, I will verify time and pops as I also pulled this little stunner LT from Happy Agogo who was so full of great dancing energy that we had to hit the disco before room. She tried to just leave in the morning after only 1 pop and was redirected back to bed. This is why I don't like paying the $5000 LT rate upfront as performance may vary.

Nothing worse than getting that stunner back to your loom and she becomes deer in the headlights when you present the Frank and Beans to her face - " I no smoke" - Dammit! !

I have been to Soi 6 last visit and certainly had a great session with a girl. I always wonder. Do the bars at Soi 6 also test the girls for STDs like the good gogos and Rasputin and all or. Are they not checked at all?

[QUOTE=LoverboyJerico;1813138]I have been to Soi 6 last visit and certainly had a great session with a girl. I always wonder. Do the bars at Soi 6 also test the girls for STDs like the good gogos and Rasputin and all or. Are they not checked at all?[/QUOTE]Interesting question but I'd like to expand it by asking if anyone has solid proof that any establishment has the girls checked on a regular basis? I would think the majority leave it up to the girl to care for herself. And even if they show you a piece of paper, how can you be sure its legit?

That being asked, there are certain risks to the hobby and this is one of them.

I think the well known gogos and Rasputin honey, devils den do check on a regular basis. I haven't seen a proof paper and can't guarantee, but yes, last visit my friend fucked a girl from sensations with condom and she was fucking scared. She was saying that at the gogos they check the girls every month and infected cannot work. Felt true over the way she said and also over the way she got concerned.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1813170]Interesting question but I'd like to expand it by asking if anyone has solid proof that any establishment has the girls checked on a regular basis? I would think the majority leave it up to the girl to care for herself. And even if they show you a piece of paper, how can you be sure its legit?

That being asked, there are certain risks to the hobby and this is one of them.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mogwai;1812922]In my experience you don't have to negotiate for BBBJ in Pattaya, not with gogo or beer bar girls and FL's anyway. 99,9% of the girls will do it. Exceptions may be girls in soapies (but that's a waste of money anyway IMHO) and some real stunners in the gogo's.[/QUOTE]In my experiences with go-go girls (with above average in looks), my percentage number isn't as high as yours.

In order to not get a bad experience, I always ask all the services that is given. I know that may kill the mood, but it "sucks" if you don't get what you want in the room. And sometimes, it doesn't matter what you ask. Some (small minority) will renege.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;1813247]In my experiences with go-go girls (with above average in looks), my percentage number isn't as high as yours.

In order to not get a bad experience, I always ask all the services that is given. I know that may kill the mood, but it "sucks" if you don't get what you want in the room. And sometimes, it doesn't matter what you ask. Some (small minority) will renege.[/QUOTE]I don't have much experience with gogos because when in Pattaya I prefer the less costly trial-and-errors of the bar scene. In my experience the rare bar girls who refuse BBBJ mostly do so because they imagine this is a prequel to unprotexted intercourse. In most cases I have been able to make them drop their resistance simply by reassuring them that "after blowjob I put on condom".

[QUOTE=Chotu;1812682]Hi,

I have done most of the mongering in Dominican republic and Colombia. Where I always has to negotiate for BBBJ with girls before the session. My question is that in Thailand do I have to negotiate with girls for BBBJ, if yes then would they understand in English or I have to find a way to translate. This would be same for GOGO girls, beer bar or FL's or different for different girl.

Thanks for the info.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Just to clarify, Chotu. When you say, "BBBJ", are you talking about mere uncovered oral foreplay before moving on to some other sexual act for the finish or are you talking about an uncovered blowjob with a genuine blowjob finish; meaning a Cum in Mouth finish? Due to the short cut abbreviations most of read and use on the 'net (BJ, BBBJ, BBBJ CIM, etc.), a bit of a Tower of Babel has been constructed around what actually does and does not constitute a "blowjob" in the P4 P industry these days. I am not familiar with how things go in the Dominican Republic and Columbia, so I didn't know which you were talking about exactly. It seemed to me you might be talking about a real blowjob with a real CIM finish and not mere oral foreplay. Is that correct?

If you are talking about mere oral foreplay, then I would agree with pretty much everything that has been said about it up to now.

However, if you are talking about a real blowjob with a real blowjob finish, which by my standards and possibly by Dominican Republic / Columbia standards means the girl sucks your dick to completion and you cum fully into her mouth before she stops sucking it (the only decision at that point being if the girl will "spit or swallow") then I would recommend negotiating that upfront with virtually any Thai P4 P girl except for some girls (but not all) working in the BJ Bars. IMO, you would not be giving yourself away as a "newbie" to do so. Otherwise, the percentage of times the girl will think you only mean licking around the edges, slipping it into her mouth for a moment or two and then moving on to finish with Full Service or whatever or, worse, the times when the girl will dodge your cum at the moment of truth and run to the toilet to hack, cough and near vomit out the tiniest bit of semen that inadvertently touched her lips before she dodged it might be depressingly higher than you ever experienced in the Dominican Republican / Columbia.

Sure, there will be some Thai P4 P girls who understand what you mean when you talk about a "blowjob"; that you mean a real blowjob that finishes with you cumming fully into her mouth and not into the air while she gives you a handjob finish. But there are a LOT of Thai girls, especially in Pattaya in my experience, who are used to guys giving them credit for giving a "blowjob" when in fact the only thing they have ever done with any of them in that regard is to lick around the edges and slip it into their mouth for a moment before putting a condom on it and moving on to something else.

[QUOTE=Chotu;1812682]Hi,

I have done most of the mongering in Dominican republic and Colombia. Where I always has to negotiate for BBBJ with girls before the session. My question is that in Thailand do I have to negotiate with girls for BBBJ, if yes then would they understand in English or I have to find a way to translate. This would be same for GOGO girls, beer bar or FL's or different for different girl.

Thanks for the info.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]I don't negotiate before hand. I have not had a covered BJ for many years. All BBBJ. I don't try to get CIM very often. Plenty of Thai girls are not into CIM. PSE massage shops should do CIM.

Some bargirls (fortunately few) are not very keen to do a BJ at all, and will try to get out of it. If dick is not small and they are not used to doing it all the time, the girl may have jaw ache problems and may find that dick sucking does not appeal to her. Some girls who reluctantly are giving a BBBJ, may give a very bad one. Shallow, too hard and too much teeth, while strangling the base of your dick with her hand. So there are no guarantees about the skill level of the girl. Pick a more experienced girl is best bet.

Thai girls don't want to suck smelly dicks, so this could be a reason for girls wanting CBJ. I don't have this problem, but I hear girl gossip.

[QUOTE=LoverboyJerico;1813138]I have been to Soi 6 last visit and certainly had a great session with a girl. I always wonder. Do the bars at Soi 6 also test the girls for STDs like the good gogos and Rasputin and all or. Are they not checked at all?[/QUOTE]The girls at the "good gogo's" usually pay 100 baht for a piece of paper that says they've been tested each month. I was with one last week who admitted they all do it and she hadn't actually been tested this year.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1813170]Interesting question but I'd like to expand it by asking if anyone has solid proof that any establishment has the girls checked on a regular basis? I would think the majority leave it up to the girl to care for herself. And even if they show you a piece of paper, how can you be sure its legit?

That being asked, there are certain risks to the hobby and this is one of them.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure what solid proof is considering this is Thailand. I do know that the Happy Group Go Go, requires all their girls to be checked once a month. I've on two occasions accompany a number of girls the last two years early morning down to a lab in Naklau, North Pattaya for them to get check. While waiting for the results we head to a local place for lunch. Now as noted I have no idea how legit and stuff this is Thailand, but I've seen the test results document that they must turn into the club. I've myself had a number of annual test done at the lab with English translation. Just my opinion, I do not think places like Soi 6, requires any checking but would not be surprise if the group of Expats that owes a number of places on this Soi might require it? A number of years ago I narrowed it down to 2 girls on this strip that gave me a small problem. I would not be surprise that Beer Bars would be any different? The education level and expense would prevent many from checking?

[QUOTE=Cusland;1813370]The girls at the "good gogo's" usually pay 100 baht for a piece of paper that says they've been tested each month. I was with one last week who admitted they all do it and she hadn't actually been tested this year.[/QUOTE]LOL, funny story Cusland, I am not surprised that quite a few girls do this. My guess is most of the Soi 6 places have a similar testing process in place and it is just for show.

To the original poster if you are worried about STDs from these girls probably a good idea to just put a condom on when fucking a Thai prostitute instead of asking about her test papers.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;1813331]Just to clarify, Chotu. When you say, "BBBJ", are you talking about mere uncovered oral foreplay before moving on to some other sexual act for the finish or are you talking about an uncovered blowjob with a genuine blowjob finish; meaning a Cum in Mouth finish? Due to the short cut abbreviations most of read and use on the 'net (BJ, BBBJ, BBBJ CIM, etc.), a bit of a Tower of Babel has been constructed around what actually does and does not constitute a "blowjob" in the P4 P industry these days. I am not familiar with how things go in the Dominican Republic and Columbia, so I didn't know which you were talking about exactly. It seemed to me you might be talking about a real blowjob with a real CIM finish and not mere oral foreplay. Is that correct?

If you are talking about mere oral foreplay, then I would agree with pretty much everything that has been said about it up to now.

However, if you are talking about a real blowjob with a real blowjob finish, which by my standards and possibly by Dominican Republic / Columbia standards means the girl sucks your dick to completion and you cum fully into her mouth before she stops sucking it (the only decision at that point being if the girl will "spit or swallow") then I would recommend negotiating that upfront with virtually any Thai P4 P girl except for some girls (but not all) working in the BJ Bars. IMO, you would not be giving yourself away as a "newbie" to do so. Otherwise, the percentage of times the girl will think you only mean licking around the edges, slipping it into her mouth for a moment or two and then moving on to finish with Full Service or whatever or, worse, the times when the girl will dodge your cum at the moment of truth and run to the toilet to hack, cough and near vomit out the tiniest bit of semen that inadvertently touched her lips before she dodged it might be depressingly higher than you ever experienced in the Dominican Republican / Columbia.

Sure, there will be some Thai P4 P girls who understand what you mean when you talk about a "blowjob"; that you mean a real blowjob that finishes with you cumming fully into her mouth and not into the air while she gives you a handjob finish. But there are a LOT of Thai girls, especially in Pattaya in my experience, who are used to guys giving them credit for giving a "blowjob" when in fact the only thing they have ever done with any of them in that regard is to lick around the edges and slip it into their mouth for a moment before putting a condom on it and moving on to something else.[/QUOTE]Just oral uncovered Blowjob before moving to real stuff (I am not into CIM). The reason behind asking this question because in last two years more than few times in Colombia and DR girls start declining uncovered blowjob because of health reason. SO now when I am in DR or Columbia I make this part of my negotiation.

Hello fellow mongers,

This post could serve as a preview for newbies and general nostalgia for the rest.

Starting off with a true story to get you in the mood. My first trip was a blast Dec 2013, back when Harem was on a side alley my friends and I spent more than a lions share of our evenings there, got familiar with the girls and did the deeds. On my 2nd visit, I walked into the new Harem and found a weakness of mine, great face, great rack, widest hips / ass but proportioned enough to come of as chunk and not fat, more of Kim Kardashian or amber rose than other wealth of girl in Pattaya. I called her over for drinks and pole dance in front of me. Being four eyed, I could not resist the invite of her pussy and her thunder thighs. I dove in and boom, not my load but the sound of my glasses getting crushed in her thighs! Thankfully left ASAP and got spares from my room and returned to barfine her and get back (get on her back) at her. Took her to insomnia with a few girls my friends BF'ed, she got too drunk slept before anything in bed and I woke her up in the middle to at least salvage 1 pop before sleeping. Not the best, but a memorable story much better told and animated in person.

I have been gearing up for my upcoming trip and about to be my third consecutive Christmas to Jan 5 trip to Pattaya. The changes I saw last year were simply the saddest and horrifying scenes, it was as watching my mecca, Walking Street having spots replaced by jewelry and garment stores. However as I prepare for another trip, it still is the most boner-rific place on earth and me and the little one are excited to visit. My friends and I were planning on visiting during Songkran for purely mongering purposes and thankfully, the forums have spoken in denial.

Some rules of mongering in Pattaya I made.

1) Never ever ever step into a Russian gogo / strip bar! Get your ogling and bird watching done from the outside.

2) For shows, angel witch, Bacarra, pay the entrance fee and enjoy the shows. On my last trip I went there with one of my most expensive LT buys, another chunk material from a new gogo bar on WS, I think Skyfall, shows were great, girl got tired after 1 pop and snored:

3) Enjoy live music at Candy Shop and their club upstairs, did a lot of insomnia in my first trip but realized I would save my energy for my room.

4) Used Simon Bar as my kick off close to every Walking Street adventure, paid a visit to LK Metro, Bukhao, Soi 6, ideally devote a few days where you don't step on WS.

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6) I have a local friend along with whom we pretend to pick occupations to sell girls on and the intrigue of mamasans, however, he too knows, his true worth is in finding grass.

7) I always negotiate, my friend chooses otherwise and waits till the morning after but being a local he feels confident girls won't turn the tables on him. I get in my eye candy from gogo and coyotes but settle for a bar girl, Simon bar even at wee hours is a great source and you still have your off the WS bars.

A couple things I haven't experienced yet and would like to open the table for suggestions and tips.

A) A freelance girl from Ibar / I club or Candy Shop, I haven't been able to move on from the smile exchanges, these aren't smoke shows but the wallet becomes happy when the score is decent and damage low.

B) Anyone ever had an exchange with African girls there? I've seen them around but never stepped up and taken action, secondly Indian girls who dance in those Indian bars? Haven't heard much chatter of the latter but African girls? Open for suggestions.

Good luck.

Happy mongering.

Hope to unknowingly share a drink with any fellow posters who will be there during the time.

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Hi my dear ISGians,

I am planning to visit Pattaya in first week of March-2016 . My visit is purely mongering and enjoy all the babes sky is the limit. Need information about very good quality girls in the range of 10000 Bh or $300 dollars for night. I will stay there for four nights then to Bangkok for 2 days. Want to know how Indians are treated there and availability of CIS girls and European girls. Please suggest me a good hotel near to walking street in the range of $100. I love BBBJ and where can I get good quality of babes who do BBBJ. Need information from all respected seniors. Please help me.

Hey guys,

I read like 6 pages but sorry for not going any deeper.

I was wondering what's the average price for a hour or night stay for a bar girl and a street girl?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Kiss666;1814286]Hi my dear ISGians,

I am planning to visit Pattaya in first week of March-2016 . My visit is purely mongering and enjoy all the babes sky is the limit. Need information about very good quality girls in the range of 10000 Bh or $300 dollars for night. I will stay there for four nights then to Bangkok for 2 days. Want to know how Indians are treated there and availability of CIS girls and European girls. Please suggest me a good hotel near to walking street in the range of $100. I love BBBJ and where can I get good quality of babes who do BBBJ. Need information from all respected seniors. Please help me.[/QUOTE]Indians still unwanted in many clubs because of well earned cheapo reputation. Try Moscow maybe.

[QUOTE=Kiss666;1814286]Hi my dear ISGians,

I am planning to visit Pattaya in first week of March-2016 . My visit is purely mongering and enjoy all the babes sky is the limit. Need information about very good quality girls in the range of 10000 Bh or $300 dollars for night. I will stay there for four nights then to Bangkok for 2 days. Want to know how Indians are treated there and availability of CIS girls and European girls. Please suggest me a good hotel near to walking street in the range of $100. I love BBBJ and where can I get good quality of babes who do BBBJ. Need information from all respected seniors. Please help me.[/QUOTE]When you ask about CIS girls -- and about how Indians are treated in Pattaya -- you have just announced to the entire community that you have not yet done one bit of reading in this forum. I suggest you do that before you get jumped on for your questions. Then, when you can ask better questions, you'll find folks quite willing to help you.

SW4.

[QUOTE=ScrewU123;1814535]Hey guys,

I read like 6 pages but sorry for not going any deeper.

I was wondering what's the average price for a hour or night stay for a bar girl and a street girl?

Thanks[/QUOTE]You must be totally exhausted. Maybe you should take a nice long nap and then try reading a few more pages. Don't over exert yourself.

Been to Bangkok for three nights and will be in Pattaya for a week before home to Oz. Found Bangkok not as interesting as before, though I still prefer it to Pattaya, for its greater variety of activities. But the girls in Bangkok seemed worse in quality and, more importantly, enthusiasm. Been to Tulip and the usual gogo bars in Soi Cowboy and Nana. Cannot find Rainbow 4 anymore (but that may be my mistake. Not sure here). Mandarin is still good but I do not recognise some of the new bars. Spent more time in Soi Cowboy this time, especially in Baccarat, Susie Wong and Crazy House. Love the pussy watching in these places, especially all nude, pussy-in-the-face set up in Crazy House. Found the girls a bit more pushy for LDs. May be time is harder, though the bars are packed. Need to go up the third floor sometimes in Crazy House.

Previously I found mongering in Pattaya a bit more time consuming, and I do not like to spend overnighter with the girls. But this time, I am really impressed with the effort and enthusiasm of the girls. Last night in Soi LK, been to Amethyst (good as a starter, after a couple of years' absence), Showgirls (lots of naked syts, OK show), Ninja (interesting, with some girls so beautiful that I am too frightened to fuck! No one pushy for LDs; great for watching thru the night), and Destiny (with many mature fuckable girls with great asses). The girls all put lots into their dance. I had a great evening and will continue tonight, aiming to barfine some syt.

Cannot stand the Walking Street anymore, with too many Chinese tourist groups. I am not racist here, as I am from similar background, but they change the sexy feel of the Street. For me personally anyway. Will stay around Soi LK in the evening.

Central Festival Mall is as good as ever. Saw the new Star Wars movie and the foodcourt at the basement is always good for a quick meal and people watching. Weather is good and not extreme.

Pattaya is relaxing and even heathy. With not much to do in the morning (I am not into [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord121][CodeWord121][/url], not that sort of water anyway), so I walk along the beach a bit. Good exercise, on top of the horizontal jogoing in the evening.

Took the Bell Bus from Bangkok and like the service. Cannot find LK The Empress on their hotel list when booking the return trip, so may have to take a taxis back. Never mind.

More to come if I find anything else to report.

Chaos.

[QUOTE=EricThePrick;1814951]Cannot stand the Walking Street anymore, with too many Chinese tourist groups. I am not racist here, as I am from similar background, but they change the sexy feel of the Street.[/QUOTE]My gogo girls and I joined one of the groups for fun. We had some good laughs.

Enter WS off 2nd Road on to Soi Diamond and you won't see them. The tour groups don't hit the side streets.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1812271]If you haven't been here is awhile, new places abound. I recently took a buddy further to North Pattaya and Naklua. He had never been that far up. New bars, cleaner streets / sidewalks (the walkways were previously all gravel, dirt, etc.), and new girls.

In the whole LK Metro area, including Soi Buakhao, there are also new bars. Sport bars, bars with girls, and new gogos. Plenty of new faces all around. Got to love it.[/QUOTE]I've been to Pattaya and Jomtien several times but never but past north Pattaya road. Can you give some highlight destinations up there so I can give it a try. Coming mid January.

Thanks

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1814956]My gogo girls and I joined one of the groups for fun. We had some good laughs.

Enter WS off 2nd Road on to Soi Diamond and you won't see them. The tour groups don't hit the side streets.[/QUOTE]Not always true at time? Some of the Chinese tour groups were using this exact location as a gather location while they waited for their bus?

[QUOTE=Kiss666;1814286]Hi my dear ISGians,

I am planning to visit Pattaya in first week of March-2016 . My visit is purely mongering and enjoy all the babes sky is the limit. Need information about very good quality girls in the range of 10000 Bh or $300 dollars for night. I will stay there for four nights then to Bangkok for 2 days. Want to know how Indians are treated there and availability of CIS girls and European girls. Please suggest me a good hotel near to walking street in the range of $100. I love BBBJ and where can I get good quality of babes who do BBBJ. Need information from all respected seniors. Please help me.[/QUOTE]It would help if you RTFF and please-please get a bit of confidence. Why would you say "respected seniors".

Indians are despised. Period. I say this as an Indian, albeit one who is mistaken for another nationality, so I personally haven't faced an issue. However, I make it a point to be nice, at times allowing girls to take advantage, and make it a point to mention I'm Indian. My two bits for improving the image of fellow countrymen. Please enjoy yourself but remember to be extra nice to compensate for the hordes of uneducated idiots who have systematically been screwing up the reputation of the entire race.

Sorry for ranting, but it gets really painful when you get incredulous looks and nasty stories about your fellows when you tell 'them you're Indian. Not just in Thailand but everywhere in the world.

Even this forum has a nasty, embarrassing banner on India pages!

[QUOTE=Kiss666;1814286]I am planning to visit Pattaya in first week of March-2016 . My visit is purely mongering and enjoy all the babes sky is the limit. Need information about very good quality girls in the range of 10000 Bh or $300 dollars for night. I will stay there for four nights then to Bangkok for 2 days. Want to know how Indians are treated there and availability of CIS girls and European girls. I love BBBJ and where can I get good quality of babes who do BBBJ. [/QUOTE]If your budget is $300/ night and you like white girls, go to Moscow, Kiev or Germany. Seriously, you'll find way more in that price range, even with the airfare / hotel get a better deal.

Ex-Soviet girls in Thailand are either old used up hags who cannot get customers elsewhere (mostly Central Asian) or ripoff eye candy who won't give you a great experience no matter how much you pay.

If you're in Bangkok, check out the Rajah hotel (Sukhumwit Soi 4) for the Caucasian women. About $100/ pop, not an amazing deal and not overnight, but tolerable looks.

For BBBJs, the obvious choice are the BJ bars (Soi 6 in Pattaya or Lo Lee Tas / Star of Light in Bangkok).

2 months ago I met an exceptional spinner at the Ruby Club, one of the most busiest bars on the soi where gems might be difficult to spot. I had a terrific time with Bee (thai name Pheung), a cuty of barely 36 kilos, beautiful killerbody. Usually I'm not enthousiastic about silicon boobs but her B-cups were amazing on that petite lady. She was very pleasant to talk to before action already, essential for any good session to get connected first. Missed the opportunity to see her again and now anxious that she might be gone when I return in February. Anyone familiar with that joint knows if she's still around, her badge might be number 10 but no more sure about that. Some noble gent let me know that I can relax, thanks!

Lone Punter

[QUOTE=WhatDHell;1815097]
Even this forum has a nasty, embarrassing banner on India pages![/QUOTE]They still don't learn, do they?

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1815167]They still don't learn, do they?[/QUOTE]Its "us" and not "they" for me!

I don't like the stereotyping that goes on here, and frankly, some folks are outright racists. However, I do understand why it happens, and absolutely detest the poorly dressed, smelly, argumentative, loud Indian who is responsible for creating the stereotype.

But for fucks sake, its a country of over 1. 2 billion! Not everybody is the same!

[QUOTE=WhatDHell;1815285]But for fucks sake, its a country of over 1. 2 billion! Not everybody is the same![/QUOTE]LOL. My girlfriend in the States is Indian from Mumbai. She has been there 4 years. She seems to think all Indian men are the same. No manners she says. I am on your side of the argument though. Surely everyone could not be that way. But I guess the Thai people have seen that side so often that they have put things off limits to all.

The rude and thieving Chinese may be joining the list next.

[QUOTE=LonePunter;1815110]2 months ago I met an exceptional spinner at the Ruby Club, one of the most busiest bars on the soi where gems might be difficult to spot. I had a terrific time with Bee (thai name Pheung), a cuty of barely 36 kilos, beautiful killerbody. Usually I'm not enthousiastic about silicon boobs but her B-cups were amazing on that petite lady. She was very pleasant to talk to before action already, essential for any good session to get connected first. Missed the opportunity to see her again and now anxious that she might be gone when I return in February. Anyone familiar with that joint knows if she's still around, her badge might be number 10 but no more sure about that. Some noble gent let me know that I can relax, thanks!

Lone Punter[/QUOTE]I was there last night, but don't recall seeing a girl that looked like that. Have you checked their FB page. ? (Just google Ruby Club Pattaya) They are pretty good about posting most of the girls.

I had a great time at Ruby last night. Went there with the idea of finally having a romp with Malee, whom I have been obsessing about for the last few months LOL. She si a very popular girls and even has her own thread on one of the other boards.

But I did not really find her to my tastes. A bit more junk in the trunk than I like and a little darker too. But she was very sweet and fun to talk to. She had no problem finding customers and hooked a very nice Turkish guy.

For my part I discovered an absolute stunner, Goi. New girl, not much English, but super sweet and a great body. Lovely silky thighs and perfect ass and really nicely shaped small breasts. She had the kind of look that I was fixated on with Malee. Only a much better version IMHO.

Ruby girls all seem to have a particular look. Kind of "sexy farmer's daughter": Nice plump thighs and butts jiggling out of short shorts. If you are a thigh and ass man this is heaven.

It took me about 2 seconds to decide I wanted to take her up to the "loom". We started of great, however, some weird shit went down in the room next door. Apparently one of the customers was hurting the girl and had to be thrown out of the bar. A lot of yelling and screaming and the manager was firm and did a good job getting rid of that asshole. I hope his dick falls off the fucker! These girls are angels and deserve to be treated with kindness and respect.

Anyhow, it did not kill our vibe and we had a lovely session once the drama died down. She was sweet and patient and let me take my time. A real GFE and a real gem of a girl. Treat her nice guys.

Afterwards we went down and partied with Malee and her Turkish temp BF. Great guy and fun to talk to. Plenty of shots all around. We bought a ton of those mini fire crackers that pop when they hit the ground and the girls had fun throwing them at each other and passer bys. All the while I had my arms around Goi and was caressing those silky thighs and firm meaty butt. From time to time she'd give me a little snog. Fresh off the farm she is not a big kisser but we did make out a little bit which was nice. I think she will come around to DFKing with a little practice, but it is not their custom up in Issan and she needs a little time to get used to it.

All in all good times! Three cheers for Ruby! THE best bar on the Six!

I never got the story about what happened with the asshole customer. We were drunk and in a great mood and soon forgot about it. Also Goi's English is so bad that we really could only communicate in the most rudimentary way and she could not explain what happened, just that everything was OK. I don't think she even really knows numbers, as we communicated our ages by hand.

The Telephone Bar is open and running as same as before! I had read reports here that its closed and another sister concern is operating in Soi lengkee, but it is open and I have been told it was never closed. However, I find this a problem every time, that as punter who have been there already know, the place has plenty of CCTV Cameras. That is a shit that bothers me too much. The girls say its for their boss to see if they work and other stuff. And I'm sure that might even be the case. However, its a concern. Whats your thoughts about it guys!!

Well, I was in Pattaya last week and I went to sensations, Happy a GOGO, peppermint and Baccara. Reportedly places Indians are not well treated. However, I felt nothing like that. I certainly know how to throw money on the faces of the Thai, and that's the only thing that matters in Pattaya. Yes, not to mention that I have always been a gentleman and have respected all kinds of people, especially ladies, so, I have never experienced any trouble. Also to say, I was given such VIP treatment in Happy A gogo as I had booked a VIP table that not even many of the people who came from the so called welcome countries in Thailand, were getting. Its all about how you carry yourself and how much you carry in your wallet. My advice to Indian. Get a big fat wallet, and yes, always remember, money is not an excuse for misbehavior. But don't worry, you won't be left out just because you are Indian if you know how to get in!!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1815356]LOL. My girlfriend in the States is Indian from Mumbai. She has been there 4 years. She seems to think all Indian men are the same. No manners she says. I am on your side of the argument though. Surely everyone could not be that way. But I guess the Thai people have seen that side so often that they have put things off limits to all.

The rude and thieving Chinese may be joining the list next.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WhatDHell;1815285]Its "us" and not "they" for me!

I don't like the stereotyping that goes on here, and frankly, some folks are outright racists. However, I do understand why it happens, and absolutely detest the poorly dressed, smelly, argumentative, loud Indian who is responsible for creating the stereotype.

But for fucks sake, its a country of over 1. 2 billion! Not everybody is the same![/QUOTE]I agree with you, too much stereotyping going in the forum and some of it plain racist. We should stick to hobbying and leave the Indians alone. They will figure it out in due time.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;1815541]I agree with you, too much stereotyping going in the forum and some of it plain racist. We should stick to hobbying and leave the Indians alone. They will figure it out in due time.[/QUOTE]It's not just stereotyping against Indians. There's a lot of stereotyping on here against Japanese that they all spend tons and jack up the prices bla bla bla. I didn't notice this when I was at Baccara BKK. Very few of the Japanese guys even had girls with them. In the German forums, it's how Japanese guys cum in less than 3 minutes and the girls can flip a client in less than 10 minutes, so its why they garner the attention of all the FKK girls.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1815356]The rude and thieving Chinese may be joining the list next.[/QUOTE]

Are the Chinese in Pattaya stealing from the girls, businesses, or tourists?

Oddly enough we all "see" what we want. the only really rude people I "saw" were drunken caucasian men in gogo clubs.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1815594]Are the Chinese in Pattaya stealing from the girls, businesses, or tourists?

Oddly enough we all "see" what we want. the only really rude people I "saw" were drunken caucasian men in gogo clubs.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2fbj3hepoE[/URL]

[URL]http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/879506-three-chinese-arrested-at-suvarnabhumi-airport-on-theft-charges/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJzmoGgryUY&feature=youtu.be[/URL]

[URL]http://www.thenational.ae/world/thailands-love-hate-relationship-with-chinese-tourists[/URL]

WTF he kicks the cage of a baby tiger. If I was there I would have pounded that guy and become a National Thai hero.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1815609][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2fbj3hepoE[/URL]

[URL]http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/879506-three-chinese-arrested-at-suvarnabhumi-airport-on-theft-charges/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJzmoGgryUY&feature=youtu.be[/URL]

[URL]http://www.thenational.ae/world/thailands-love-hate-relationship-with-chinese-tourists[/URL][/QUOTE]I remember a story from a few years back where a Chinese kid wrote "I was here" on an ancient Egyptian pyramid.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1815594]In the German forums, it's how Japanese guys cum in less than 3 minutes and the girls can flip a client in less than 10 minutes, so its why they garner the attention of all the FKK girls s.[/QUOTE]FKK girls fuck 20 times a day and prefer Asian clients over Caucasians so they don't get fucked by huge dicks. It's unlikely you'll ever hear of a girl turning down an Asian because his dick is too large. When the girl makes the hj motion but only uses one finger and her thumb you get the impression....

Guys.

I'm went back 15 pages or more and the information was sparse.

I am heading to Pats after NYE and wondering how many good bars there at Soi Bukhao and LK Metro area worth visiting? Are these go-go bars or drinking bars with FLs? Is it too long a stretch to walk and cover these places when bar hopping?

I enjoyed picking up FLs from beach Road more than the walking st scene last time around and want to check out other options this time.
I read about a Billabong bar in LK metro - curious how many such bars are there in this place all within a half km walk?

Cheers.

P.

[QUOTE=TheCane;1815612]I remember a story from a few years back where a Chinese kid wrote "I was here" on an ancient Egyptian pyramid.[/QUOTE]Inside the Great Pyramid are a lot of graffiti. I definitely remember having seen some which were put there by English RAF pilots during the Second World War.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1815803]Inside the Great Pyramid are a lot of graffiti. I definitely remember having seen some which were put there by English RAF pilots during the Second World War.[/QUOTE]They must have cleaned it up. I was there 9 years ago and there was absolutely nothing. Just some big stone box. They didn't want you to take your camera in so you could show people that is was not worth the price of admission. They caught me trying to sneak mine in but in the midst of them stopping me, my buddy was able to get his through and we got pictures of us inside.

[QUOTE=PeeMan;1815778]I am heading to Pats after NYE and wondering how many good bars there at Soi Bukhao and LK Metro area worth visiting? Are these go-go bars or drinking bars with FLs? Is it too long a stretch to walk and cover these places when bar hopping? [/QUOTE]Good is a subjective term so I won't get into how good the places are. LK Metro is an "L" shaped street. If you walked it from end to end it would take about 4 minutes. Now it is mostly gogos there and maybe 4 or 5 bars. The biggest bar is Billabong, which you mentioned. There are tons of girls at Billabong but most of them are older. Seemed like a girl I know who worked there would go to work whenever she wanted. There are no FL on LK Metro.

Soi Buakhao is a long ass street. I would not walk that. No reason to with baht buses going up and down it. If you did though it will take at least 20 minutes. There are only 2 gogos that I can think of on the street; Oasis and Sugar Sugar. Otherwise it is a normal street with bars, massage parlors, 7/11's, gold shops, restaurants, travel agencies, hair salons, pharmacies, markets, banks, etc. No FL on Soi Buakhao besides lbs that you will see late at night.

Keep in mind that anytime you see women walking down the street you can try to stop them and talk to them and from there see where their head is and find out if they are on the game or not. Just start a normal conversation and go from there just as you would anywhere else in the world.

[QUOTE=PeeMan;1815778]Guys.

I am heading to Pats after NYE and wondering how many good bars there at Soi Bukhao and LK Metro area worth visiting? Are these go-go bars or drinking bars with FLs? Is it too long a stretch to walk and cover these places when bar hopping?


P.[/QUOTE]One huge plus for me on the LK Metro streets is that you won't see the masses of tourists roaming the streets. LK Metro is mostly locals who stay in that area. If you haven't seen it, I recommend it.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1815611]WTF he kicks the cage of a baby tiger. If I was there I would have pounded that guy and become a National Thai hero.[/QUOTE]LOL. And breaking news from the Associated Press:

"The last was a woman who attacked her tour guide with hot tea after learning the price of her son's ticket to a western China scenic site was not included in the package.

The government has grown concerned about the negative impact on China's image stemming from numerous incidents of bad behavior by Chinese tourists at home and abroad,"

[URL]http://abcnews.go.com/Weird/wireStory/china-names-shames-tourists-bad-behavior-35856857[/URL]

[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1815832]One huge plus for me on the LK Metro streets is that you won't see the masses of tourists roaming the streets. If you haven't seen it, I recommend it.[/QUOTE]I concur. If you haven't checked out LK Metro, then do so. The downside, however, is that the LK Metro Go Go's have priced themselves equal to the Walking Street Go Go's which they are not in terms of talent. That is too bad because if they had been a little smarter and set prices 10% to 20% lower, I think they would have been a smash hit.

On my last trip, I visited Kaos (a small Go Go), Showgirls, and Bachelors. Of the three, Showgirls seemed to have the most to offer. I would go back to that place again for sure. But as chance would have it, I met a pretty little 18 year old door girl outside of Bachelors and after striking up a little conversation we went inside for a couple rounds of Tequila. She was a very friendly girl and we DFK'd quite seriously. At first she was reluctant to barfine telling me she had never done it before, but after the 2nd shot of Tequila and a lot more kissing, she changed her mind all on her own and wanted me to barfine her. Go figure - LOL! Back in the "loom" she at first acted tentative and shy like a newbie. She was slow to take off her top for example and her BBBJ skills were very basic, but I was patient with her and my DATY turned her on so we ended up having a very passionate time together. We exchanged Line ID's and she kept messaging me long after I left Pattaya about getting together again. She wanted to come up to BKK to see me and I would have liked to see her again as well, but there were just too many other girls on my rotation and I never had the time to get back with her. That is something that I now kind of regret.

So the bottom line is, definitely check out LK Metro when in Pattaya. Just don't expect the LK Go Go's to be as chock full of goodies as Sapphire, What's Up, Happy or Sensations, the top Walking Street Go Go's IMHO. But, having said that, there are some good girls to be found on LK Metro and they will show you a real good time.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1815819]They must have cleaned it up. I was there 9 years ago and there was absolutely nothing. Just some big stone box. They didn't want you to take your camera in so you could show people that is was not worth the price of admission. They caught me trying to sneak mine in but in the midst of them stopping me, my buddy was able to get his through and we got pictures of us inside.[/QUOTE]Not in the central room. It is actually in the steeply sloping corridor between the entrance and the central room. 30 years ago (when I first visited Egypt) they had wooden steps installed there.

And you are entirely right: there is nothing worthwhile to see inside the Geeat Pyramid.

Hi guys,

I am going to Pattaya in the end of January.

How much do you normally give in tips if you like / don't like the girls.

I guess ST & LT is different.

I like also going to places like Soi 6 in day time, do you think the rooms upstairs are safe or do you normally take them back to hotel?

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1815866]I concur. If you haven't checked out LK Metro, then do so. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1815832]One huge plus for me on the LK Metro streets is that you won't see the masses of tourists roaming the streets. LK Metro is mostly locals who stay in that area. If you haven't seen it, I recommend it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1815828]Good is a subjective term so I won't get into how good the places are. LK Metro is an "L" shaped street. If you walked it from end to end it would take about 4 minutes. Now it is mostly gogos there and maybe 4 or 5 bars. The biggest bar is Billabong, which you mentioned. There are tons of girls at Billabong but most of them are older. Seemed like a girl I know who worked there would go to work whenever she wanted. There are no FL on LK Metro.

Soi Buakhao is a long ass street. I would not walk that. No reason to with baht buses going up and down it. If you did though it will take at least 20 minutes. There are only 2 gogos that I can think of on the street; Oasis and Sugar Sugar. Otherwise it is a normal street with bars, massage parlors, 7/11's, gold shops, restaurants, travel agencies, hair salons, pharmacies, markets, banks, etc. No FL on Soi Buakhao besides lbs that you will see late at night.

Keep in mind that anytime you see women walking down the street you can try to stop them and talk to them and from there see where their head is and find out if they are on the game or not. Just start a normal conversation and go from there just as you would anywhere else in the world.[/QUOTE]Thank you Guys! A Free Beer on me if we bump into each other the next two weeks. I head to BKK tonight then off to HKT and Pats later.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Noruego;1815967]Hi guys,

I am going to Pattaya in the end of January.

How much do you normally give in tips if you like / don't like the girls.

I guess ST & LT is different.

I like also going to places like Soi 6 in day time, do you think the rooms upstairs are safe or do you normally take them back to hotel?[/QUOTE]Please keep in mind that Thailand is not a "tipping country". That beng said, an LT girl that performed well gets a few hundered baht extra from me unless she has already received a few ladydrinks (on which she got a nice commission).

For ST "soi 6" sessions, one hundred is really enough.

What do you mean with "the rooms upstairs are safe"? I have never had a problem, although the stairs to go to the rooms are sometimes badly lighted, very steep or narrow so you should not go there if you are drunk lest you fall.

I don't think Soi 6 girls go with you to your hotel for ST sessions or they may perhaps charge you extra for it. But I really don't know as I have never thought about taking one out. I have always found it a great convenience of Soi 6 that the bars there have a room above the bar. Far less hassle for an ST session.

[QUOTE=Noruego;1815967]Hi guys,

I am going to Pattaya in the end of January.

How much do you normally give in tips if you like / don't like the girls.

I guess ST & LT is different.

I like also going to places like Soi 6 in day time, do you think the rooms upstairs are safe or do you normally take them back to hotel?[/QUOTE]Wether you like the service or not. You pay the agreed upon price. If you refuse to play the girl calls the police and the police will take you down the police station basically until you agree to pay. But sometimes the girl makes a deal with the cop. Now you have to more and the girl will give a percent to the police for helping her.

I will be in Pattaya from December 24 for 5 days. Been there many times, but cannot remember any specific Christmas events or a good place to go for that particular day.

Do any of the Pattaya Veterans know of anything special (event or otherwise) this Christmas Eve and day?

ALSO: If anyone is there later this week and weekend, and wants to grab a beer or do some mongering as a Wingman, send me a PM. All of my buddies couldn't make it this season.

Looking forward to a very Merry Christmas!

-be.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1815866]I concur. If you haven't checked out LK Metro, then do so.[/QUOTE]LK Metro was such a welcome change of pace from from Walking Street. All the chicks at Devil's Den were hideous when I stopped by around 10 pm, but that's another story! But after spending some time in the LK Metro area, I was surprised that we just don't read more about it on ISG. I liked it over there.

I'm in Pattaya since last Thursday and to be honest I can't say I'm having a ball. I'm a Beach Road guy but the quality there is terrible at the moment. Last Friday and Saturday it was slightly better but even then there were only a few doable girls.
I've never liked the beer bars very much. Can't even remember the last time I've set foot in one. Must have been back in 2008 or 2009 I think.
There's still enough eye candy in the gogo's and in recent years I have tried my luck every now and then but it's expensive and I usually didn't get what I paid for.

So I'm depending on my regulars and WeChat. But I don't have many regulars anymore who I really like. My most favorite regular texted me she was not available for the coming 4 weeks. Damn! Found her on Beach Road about 2 years ago, almost hiding behind a palm tree (literally). Shy, sweet, clever, pretty and tall and also horny as hell. One of the best girls I ever had. Don't bother looking behind palm trees though, you won't find her there anymore. She has many returning customers and fucks 1 or 2 on average, daily.

Last Friday a regular, a semi-pro, spotted me sitting at Starbucks but she's my least favorite one. But I was horny and took her to my hotel anyway. She says she's 30 but I think she's in her late thirties. A short BBBJ and a lot of fake moans when I DATY'd her. The good thing is she still has a nice body and tight pussy and allows me to finish inside, but I don't think I will repeat anymore.

Saturday I invited a WeChat contact to come to my hotel. She looked good in her pictures and even better in reality. A 7.5. But there were some bad signs: she turned on the television soon after she came in and she pulled out a big tube of KY from her purse. Once on the bed she insisted on CBJ. WTF? I protest and she asks me how much I can give her extra for BBBJ. I offer 200 and she declines. I didn't want to offer more because of the other bad signs and sent her away with 100 Baht.
I invited another WeChat contact and she looked better in her pictures than in reality. But she was certainly doable and a nice girl and we had a good session. Nothing to write home about but simply a decent session.

Sunday I invited a promising looking massage girl from Soi Buakhao. Her face was an 8 but unfortunately her body had lost the battle against overweight many years ago already I'm afraid. Nevertheless she gave me a good massage, a good BBBJ and satisfactory CFS. But I will not repeat.

And yesterday I invited a waitress on her day off. Cute girl, looks better in reality than in her pics. 36 yo but looks 26. No children and a firm body with some baby fat. Very shy, minimal English and very sweet. A star fish in bed however but I blame that on her shyness and lack of experience (with P4 P I mean). She's texting me all the time now and wants to repeat but I'm not so sure about that yet.

So until now it's all, well: meh. Pattaya just doesn't do it for me anymore I'm afraid. But I have said that to myself more often in recent years and still I kept coming back. Because there were always a couple of girls worth coming back for.
Like the girl I ran into on my way to Beach Road this morning. A lovely young cutie from Korat, only in town for one day to make some money. Skinny but very sweet and attractive and she gave me good service. It's girls like her that I keep coming back for. But if I can't find any more girls like her before the end of this week, when I go back home again, this might as well have been the very last time I was in Pattaya.
IMFITP: it's more fun in the Philippines.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;1816661]Pattaya just doesn't do it for me anymore I'm afraid. But I have said that to myself more often in recent years and still I kept coming back. Because there were always a couple of girls worth coming back for.
[/QUOTE]Man, you have all my sympathy and solidarity. I understand you, in the last 2 trip I feel nearly same you.

[QUOTE=BDawgee;1816479]I will be in Pattaya from December 24 for 5 days. Been there many times, but cannot remember any specific Christmas events or a good place to go for that particular day.
Do any of the Pattaya Veterans know of anything special (event or otherwise) this Christmas Eve and day?
ALSO: If anyone is there later this week and weekend, and wants to grab a beer or do some mongering as a Wingman, send me a PM. All of my buddies couldn't make it this season.
Looking forward to a very Merry Christmas!
-be.[/QUOTE]Many of the bars will have parties and food. The sports pubs and restaurants also have food specials.

When you get in and unpack, turn on the tv and find the Pattaya news channel. For me it's on Channel 12, although it may be on another channel depending on your area. They always show the special events.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;1816661]I'm in Pattaya since last Thursday and to be honest I can't say I'm having a ball. I'm a Beach Road guy but the quality there is terrible at the moment. Last Friday and Saturday it was slightly better but even then there were only a few doable girls.
I've never liked the beer bars very much. Can't even remember the last time I've set foot in one. Must have been back in 2008 or 2009 I think.
There's still enough eye candy in the gogo's and in recent years I have tried my luck every now and then but it's expensive and I usually didn't get what I paid for.

So I'm depending on my regulars and WeChat. But I don't have many regulars anymore who I really like. My most favorite regular texted me she was not available for the coming 4 weeks. Damn! Found her on Beach Road about 2 years ago, almost hiding behind a palm tree (literally). Shy, sweet, clever, pretty and tall and also horny as hell. One of the best girls I ever had. Don't bother looking behind palm trees though, you won't find her there anymore..[/QUOTE]I'm in Pattaya now. I was actually thinking the same thing. Quality is very bad. I was lucky to find a couple hot ones. The picking are very slim. I had some great experiences today. That is what keeps me coming back. I did go to the snake show today for the first time. I loved it and tipped everyone that worked there 100 baut. I got the feeling that was the biggest tip they ever got. Many people don't tip them at all and the most I saw people give them was 20 baut. Regarding the girls in Thailand. I feel the girl quality depends on the month you come. I had a list of girls I met last year that I wanted to see again. I had their line contacts. They all disappeared. So sad.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;1816661] I'm a Beach Road guy but the quality there is terrible at the moment. Last Friday and Saturday it was slightly better but even then there were only a few doable girls.[/QUOTE]Ok so it's not just me. I was questioning those picking up Beach Road girls. Very few under 25 or attractive.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;1816661]So until now it's all, well: meh. Pattaya just doesn't do it for me anymore I'm afraid. But I have said that to myself more often in recent years and still I kept coming back. Because there were always a couple of girls worth coming back for.
Like the girl I ran into on my way to Beach Road this morning. A lovely young cutie from Korat, only in town for one day to make some money. Skinny but very sweet and attractive and she gave me good service. It's girls like her that I keep coming back for. But if I can't find any more girls like her before the end of this week, when I go back home again, this might as well have been the very last time I was in Pattaya.
IMFITP: it's more fun in the Philippines.[/QUOTE]We've all been saying this about Pattaya for well over a decade. It just keeps getting worse. However, realistically, the rest of the world is still much worse. I am intrigued by your Philippines statement, however. I've only been to Angeles & Manila, and only a few times, but it seemed pretty horrible compared to Pattaya.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;1816661]So until now it's all, well: meh. Pattaya just doesn't do it for me anymore I'm afraid. But I have said that to myself more often in recent years and still I kept coming back. Because there were always a couple of girls worth coming back for.[/QUOTE]

I used to love Beach Road too, and have felt roughly the same for several years. An occasional fun girl can still be found, but pickings are slim, and looks grim compared to 2012 and earlier. For me, the sidewalk reconstruction has destroyed it, making it difficult for both girls and punters to casually sit along Beach Road.

Unfortunately, there's still no better mongering place than Pattaya, even in its notably diminished state, especially for those like me who prefer to walk around and take their pick at the lower end (rather than drinking or frequenting closed venues like large "massage" parlors).

Opebo is right, Pattaya is crap compared to its former state, but there's still no overall better place anywhere it seems.

After Pattaya, Angeles City did not impress much, and Manila even less so. Jakarta is fascinating, but little of the action is out in the open (plenty in "hotels" and other enclosed venues), and much seems mafia-controlled.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1816734]Ok so it's not just me. I was questioning those picking up Beach Road girls. Very few under 25 or attractive.[/QUOTE]I cannot tell the age of Asian chicks, but I am pretty sure I picked up a few girls in their early 20's. This was back in October. Now, with respect to attractiveness, I found Beach road chicks as good as the lower 80% GoGo girls.

However, my favorite from that trip was a GoGo chick from Airline.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;1816992]I cannot tell the age of Asian chicks, but I am pretty sure I picked up a few girls in their early 20's. This was back in October. Now, with respect to attractiveness, I found Beach road chicks as good as the lower 80% GoGo girls.

However, my favorite from that trip was a GoGo chick from Airline.[/QUOTE]One fine and lightly breezy evening, I walked the entire length of Beach Road from like Soi 2 all the way back to Walking Street. From about the location of the Hard Rock Hotel down to Walking Street there were street tutes standing so many feet apart. Most of them were quite unattractive, and several of them were obvious lady boys. I only saw one who I thought was cute, and she was busy fiddling around with her cell phone. I kept it moving. Unfortunately, the majority of the pretty Thai girls I saw along Beach Road were of the non-P4P variety out with family and friends taking an evening stroll or just sitting and having something to eat and drink. As a monger, it was interesting to have the experience of seeing Beach Road in Pattaya, but I had no desire to partake. Overall, the "talent" was simply abysmal and well below my exacting standards, particularly for Asian women. But wow! From Bangkok to Phuket to Pattaya man did I see and do a lot in Thailand! Not to mention all of the "normal" tourism I did as well LOL! And even still, I didn't get to do everything that I wanted to do. I think a newbie would need a solid month in order to have adequate time to explore everything to one's heart's content.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;1816992]Now, with respect to attractiveness, I found Beach road chicks as good as the lower 80% GoGo girls.
[/QUOTE]Agree with that but hopefully we would all go for the top 1% (in our mind anyways) in the gogo club.

[QUOTE=Opebo;1816756]We've all been saying this about Pattaya for well over a decade. It just keeps getting worse. However, realistically, the rest of the world is still much worse. I am intrigued by your Philippines statement, however. I've only been to Angeles & Manila, and only a few times, but it seemed pretty horrible compared to Pattaya.[/QUOTE]IMHO the bar / gogo scene in the Philippines isn't any better than in Pattaya, or even worse. Although Manila seems to be better than Angeles according to some mongers but also more expensive and apart from that I hate the city.

The FL and chat apps scene however is great in the Philippines. It's very easy to make contact with sweet young cuties around 20 yo.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1816862]
Unfortunately, there's still no better mongering place than Pattaya, even in its notably diminished state, SNIP [/QUOTE]I agree. It's so easy to book a flight and get here. Much easier and cheaper than to get to Angeles for example (for me anyway, from Amsterdam). Transport, infrastructure, food, the beach (for the fresh air, not for swimming), the abundance of girls, it's all so much better. But slowly but surely, year after year, the quality of the girls has gone down and is still going down and I think it has reached a point now that I soon will say: 'That's it, I've had enough. From now on it's only the Phils for me. ' And maybe Vietnam also.

It was pretty late when I rolled into my favorite haunt, Insomnia. I grabbed a beer and went around, but found nobody to my liking. Every girl had pretty much hooked up with some guy, except for a few tables with a gaggle of girls waiting for a customer.

I took the back staircase down and went around the I-bar. Near the water I found an empty table and just stood there, waiting for something to happen. That was a big mistake, and it nearly cost me a f*ck. The reason is that the excitement and the pretty girls were closer to the front (Walking Street side), as I found out when I walked out with my date-for-the-night. So you see, I did manage to hook up, as I will explain below. But learn from my mistake, and give the downstairs bar the same grand tour exploration that you would give the upstairs disco, for otherwise you might be missing something hot.

Anyway, after about 20 minutes of drinking my beer at the table near the water, I was ready to walk out. I pass by this table of 3 girls: one with short hair (what a waste of beauty!) An older woman who was clearly the group leader and acted as mamasan, and a cute chick of about 24. I liked her face, I liked her smile, I liked her body. Not sure she liked me, probably found me too old, but upon seeing me eye the girl up and down as I was walking past, the mamasan forcibly grabbed me at the elbow and threw me her way. All of the action took less than one second! But from then on it was all pre-ordained.

She said her name was Som. She was from Bangkok. Sukhumvit. Soi 4. Nana. So she's a h00 ker on vacation in Pattaya. And what does a h00 ker do on vacation? Hook! The mind boggles.

Anyway, we agreed on 1500 Baht for one hour. Probably overpriced, but as I was planning to "love her long time", I. E. , more than 5 minutes, I thought it would ensure compliance. And so it did. But I'm getting ahead of my story.

As we walked out, my elbow "accidentally" touched her bosom, and felt something very hard and unnatural. Not silicone but foam. Not fake tits but lying bra! So I knew I was in for a couple of fried eggs, sunny side up. Lesson number 2: if breast-lover, then accidentally brush bosom before sealing the deal. You will learn so much. Personally I'm an equal-opportunity breast employer. What bothers me is saggy breasts, stretch marks, see-section marks, flabby stomach. She had none of that. Yooohoo!

We went to Oasis and she was very confused by the fact that the shower space has no toilet in it. Clearly the notion that somebody may want to put up a wall between the two is not something she has been forced to consider before. But, bless her soul, she asked me for permission before peeing in my shower, and I gently directed her to the "other" bathroom where such functions must be performed. The one with a toilet.

She spent an inordinate amount of time in there. My best hypothesis is that she was on the rag and used some advanced vag1 na-cleansing technology to wipe out all the menstrual blood for an hour. Reason 1: she was available only "for an hour", whereas most freelancers at I-Bar try to sleep the night in your hotel so they can save room cost and get free breakfast. Reason 2: after I f*cked her (but I'm getting ahead of my story here), the condom was mostly clean, but there was a bit of blood right at the tip. I'm not that long and not that hard that I could have produced that through chafing. Certainly that has not been my experience in the past.

So, reconstructed story: Nana Plaza go-go girl not happy with her job, tries out Pattaya freelance scene while she has "on the rag" vacation. Enlists the help of an older friend who proactively channels a customer to her. I'm the lucky bastard who sampled the goods.

She was pretty hot in bed. No stretch marks. No caesarian marks. Kissing. Never complained that I was taking too long to come. I be*nged her for literally half an hour. Five positions. Missionary repeated countless times with variations. She was not c0 ck-shy.

Only negative is she had a mole on her left ass cheek. Apart from that she was a physically perfect specimen. Obviously, you've got to overlook the Isaan skin tone and the small tits, but I do.

Would I repeat? Well, I didn't take her number. But she is definitely Pattaya material, if she wants to switch jobs.

OK, I originally planned on staying in Pattaya for 1 month. But, after a couple days. I had enough. For this trip at least may have not been the best time to come for girls. Don't get my wrong. Yes, my needs were met and I did find some hot girls everyday. Service was excellent. But, I know what Pattaya can be and it was not the best it could be. The girls on beach street at night were horrible. There were still a lot of girl just not good looking girls. Many business were closed. Selection of hot girls had to be changed to selection of fuckable girls. I twice asked a girl about paying bar fine and getting a short time and at the last minute before paying the house I made and excuse and left. If I'm going to pay close to 2000 baut I better like the girl I'm with. I also wanted to add that I still had a good time and it is hard not to have a good time in Pattaya. It just is not the best I have ever seen it. Many many tourists. Just not many tourists in the bars and not as many girls. I leave today for Chiang Mai.

Met a young black 24 yo from Madagascar 2 nights ago in Pattaya. She looked very pretty and had a nice ass. Had an accent but spoke decent english. I think she was walking to the beach because she was headed in that direction. Met her on Soi Diana walking towards kiss restaurant. So if you like chocolate and something different, and you are in that area.

Out of curiosity, I ask her how much. She said 1000 short time.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;1817033]IMHO the bar / gogo scene in the Philippines isn't any better than in Pattaya, or even worse.

The FL and chat apps scene however is great in the Philippines. It's very easy to make contact with sweet young cuties around 20 yo.[/QUOTE]Oh I see! Yes I am not a fan of that kind of thing, I only like real honest pros.

Just a quick question, do these cute looking door girls can be taken back to hotel or not?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1818384]Met a young black 24 yo from Madagascar 2 nights ago in Pattaya. She looked very pretty and had a nice ass. Had an accent but spoke decent english. I think she was walking to the beach because she was headed in that direction. Met her on Soi Diana walking towards kiss restaurant. So if you like chocolate and something different, and you are in that area.

Out of curiosity, I ask her how much. She said 1000 short time.[/QUOTE]Picked one up on BR tonite. Very good experience. English & French not as good as other Mada girls I have had. Wants 3,000 long time. Maybe for New Years Eve.

[QUOTE=Crazy666;1819707]Just a quick question, do these cute looking door girls can be taken back to hotel or not?[/QUOTE]Some will and some won't. But there is no harm is flirting with them and asking the one you like if she would like to have a drink with you. I reported on my little fling with an 18 year old door girl from Bachelors Go Go on LK Metro in October. It was a good night. Nice girl. Then there are other door girls that can not leave with a customer for some reason, possibly they are not 18 or possibly their bar forbids them to barfine like the door girls in front of the "Arab's" Go Go's on Soi Cowboy in BKK. I flirt with those girls too becasue they are so damn sexy, but its is a Mexican standoff. I won't go into their bar and they can't come to my hotel room. But they are sexy adorable. That's why the "Arab" pays them to stand outside his bars.

Thanks for the info, I will certainly try and report back.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1819717]Some will and some won't. But there is no harm is flirting with them and asking the one you like if she would like to go in their bar and have a drink with you. I reported on my little fling with an 18 year old door girl from Bachelors Go Go on LK Metro in October. It was a good night. Nice girl. Then there are other girls that for some reason, possibly they are not 18 or possibly their bar forbids them to barfine like the door girls in front of the "Arab's" Go Go's on Soi Cowboy in BKK. I flirt with those girls too but its is a Mexican standoff. I won't go into their bar and they won't come to my hotel. But they are sexy adorable. That's why the "Arab" pays them to stand outside his bars.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Crazy666;1819707]Just a quick question, do these cute looking door girls can be taken back to hotel or not?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I asked a very hot, Model type from BKK, into the bar for a drink. She had a dancer friend inside and I took them both home. She was shy when I asked barfine but when I turned it into an offer for both she went for it.

In the past, I took few really hot massage girls back to my hotel, the only issues was I had to wait till they close their shop at 3 am. I've only been to Pattaya once before and I will be going there in Jan, so I was curious as to how to approach this door girls. I suppose taking 2 girls back to the hotel will incure some sort of surchage.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=GinAndTonic;1819719]I asked a very hot, Model type from BKK, into the bar for a drink. She had a dancer friend inside and I took them both home. She was shy when I asked barfine but when I turned it into an offer for both she went for it.[/QUOTE]

I'll be returning to Pattaya in late January and I have a few questions which might be easily answered by the expats living there.

1. What are the internet speeds like at most coffee shops or businesses offering WiFi? Is it awful?

My hotel will have internet, and I remember from last visit that it isn't so bad, but I'd like to take my laptop out with me and work during the day. Any secret spots that have good connectivity?

2. Is the Hooters finished yet? Will it hopefully be finished by the end of January? I love their hot wings. (don't judge me).

3. I've heard of pub crawls but I've never seen how to join one. Where should I go and at what time, if I want to check it out? Is it even worth it?

Last time, I flew solo the entire trip. It got a little boring.

Finally.

4. Will anybody else be visiting at that time?

Hope everyone has a good week.

Hello everyone,

I have a couple of questions the last time I was I Pattaya was in 2009. I went there with 3 buddies and we had a blast. Met a lot of girls and had a couple of GFE, S. And some one nights. As I remember it never felt like prostitution then more flirting and fun before the act. I have bin reading the forum for the last years and the Pattaya I visited back then is, the Pattaya that exist today?. A beer back then was 45-90 bath and I hear that a coke can be 150-200 bath now? I haven't bin able to visit Pattaya because I started a family and had some kids. But from what I read I don't want to go back. Whats happening to Pattaya?

I remember meeting a bargirl and she went with me for free and the next day she showed up at our house whit 3 friends (for my buddies) wanting to party and just have fun. We all hang for days and parted as friends (fuck buddies). And the time we paid for for other girls it wasn't like hard core prostitution more like fun flirting at a price?

Is it really as bad as I read?

[QUOTE=Muppen1;1819764]Hello everyone,

I have a couple of questions the last time I was I Pattaya was in 2009. I went there with 3 buddies and we had a blast. Met a lot of girls and had a couple of GFE, S. And some one nights. As I remember it never felt like prostitution then more flirting and fun before the act. I have bin reading the forum for the last years and the Pattaya I visited back then is, the Pattaya that exist today?. A beer back then was 45-90 bath and I hear that a coke can be 150-200 bath now? I haven't bin able to visit Pattaya because I started a family and had some kids. But from what I read I don't want to go back. Whats happening to Pattaya?

I remember meeting a bargirl and she went with me for free and the next day she showed up at our house whit 3 friends (for my buddies) wanting to party and just have fun. We all hang for days and parted as friends (fuck buddies). And the time we paid for for other girls it wasn't like hard core prostitution more like fun flirting at a price?

Is it really as bad as I read?[/QUOTE]Mongering prices will have increased if you compare to 2009, but then again price increases are a fact of life and I do not think the price of pussy has kept up with inflation. So pussy-price-wise Pattaya (and Thailand as a whole) is still a very good destination in that respect.

The EUR / USD to Baht exchange rate probably had a larger influence on the real price (in your own currency) that you pay.

Last time I was in Pattaya, I found it still quite congenial. Whether you can pull some freebies is of course akin to a lottery, but I did not see much change in the scene as a whole over the several years I came here. That being said, I'm not a big fan of freebies from girls on The Game. I like to combine a hot sexy GF with some "excursions" into P4 P to spice up my life even more and have some variations. But to each his own, of course.

GFE and PSE is still abundantly available and easy to find and at prices not much more than years ago.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1819896]Mongering prices will have increased if you compare to 2009, but then again price increases are a fact of life and I do not think the price of pussy has kept up with inflation. So pussy-price-wise Pattaya (and Thailand as a whole) is still a very good destination in that respect.

The EUR / USD to Baht exchange rate probably had a larger influence on the real price (in your own currency) that you pay.

Last time I was in Pattaya, I found it still quite congenial. Whether you can pull some freebies is of course akin to a lottery, but I did not see much change in the scene as a whole over the several years I came here. That being said, I'm not a big fan of freebies from girls on The Game. I like to combine a hot sexy GF with some "excursions" into P4 P to spice up my life even more and have some variations. But to each his own, of course.

GFE and PSE is still abundantly available and easy to find and at prices not much more than years ago.[/QUOTE]In 2009 long time with a beer bar girl was 1,000 b. You get short time for that now. Say 2-3,000 b long time. A GoGo was 2,000 b long time now more than 2 x that. It doubled in price about 2-3 years ago. A baht bus is still 10 b and a 500 ML of water 7 b so some things remained the same.

[QUOTE=Adrena;1819759]I'll be returning to Pattaya in late January and I have a few questions which might be easily answered by the expats living there.

1. What are the internet speeds like at most coffee shops or businesses offering WiFi? Is it awful?

My hotel will have internet, and I remember from last visit that it isn't so bad, but I'd like to take my laptop out with me and work during the day. Any secret spots that have good connectivity?

2. Is the Hooters finished yet? Will it hopefully be finished by the end of January? I love their hot wings. (don't judge me).

3. I've heard of pub crawls but I've never seen how to join one. Where should I go and at what time, if I want to check it out? Is it even worth it?

Last time, I flew solo the entire trip. It got a little boring.

Finally.

4. Will anybody else be visiting at that time?

Hope everyone has a good week.[/QUOTE]The WiFi is not bad and is free except at some of the big chains, shame. About the same as I found my last trip to Canada but slow compared to Vietnam. Hooters should be open by then but a friend reported the Bangkok branch was not as good as back in his home country.

[QUOTE=Crazy666;1819721]In the past, I took few really hot massage girls back to my hotel, the only issues was I had to wait till they close their shop at 3 am. I've only been to Pattaya once before and I will be going there in Jan, so I was curious as to how to approach this door girls. I suppose taking 2 girls back to the hotel will incure some sort of surchage.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I asked the friend along because the hot one was timid and I was in my late '50's. Younger guys shouldn't need those ploys. The hotels I stayed at never charged extra. I understand some do.

[URL]http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/crime/810144/russian-kazakhstani-go-go-dancers-arrested-in-pattaya[/URL]

[QUOTE=GinAndTonic;1819932]a 500 ML of water 7 b so some things remained the same.[/QUOTE]1 baht for 1 liter if you use the machine!

[QUOTE=Crazy666;1819721]I suppose taking 2 girls back to the hotel will incure some sort of surchage.[/QUOTE]Most hotels will not charge you extra if you bring in 1 girl. Many hotels will charge you extra for the second girl. 300-500 Baht extra is unfair. Need to check with the hotel.

[QUOTE=Adrena;1819759]2. Is the Hooters finished yet?[/QUOTE]It is now open.

- Saw something interesting on Pattaya People News (the TV channel). They had a sweep inside some of the go-go bars (Sensations go-go was featured on TV). They said that by Thai law, foreigners were required to carry their passports or a copy. They said they detained and sent 20 foreigners to the police station for not having ID. Carry a copy of your passport!

- Observed many freelancers on Beach Road.

- Traffic is horrible on Beach Road near Walking Street. It goes from 3 lanes to 1.5 lanes on that bend in front of Walking Street. It's because you have cars / songthaews / food carts parked right there before the entrance. So lame. TIA.

[QUOTE=TomSf;1817518]OK, I originally planned on staying in Pattaya for 1 month. But, after a couple days. I had enough. For this trip at least may have not been the best time to come for girls. Don't get my wrong. Yes, my needs were met and I did find some hot girls everyday. Service was excellent. But, I know what Pattaya can be and it was not the best it could be. The girls on beach street at night were horrible. There were still a lot of girl just not good looking girls. Many business were closed. Selection of hot girls had to be changed to selection of fuckable girls. I twice asked a girl about paying bar fine and getting a short time and at the last minute before paying the house I made and excuse and left. If I'm going to pay close to 2000 baut I better like the girl I'm with. I also wanted to add that I still had a good time and it is hard not to have a good time in Pattaya. It just is not the best I have ever seen it. Many many tourists. Just not many tourists in the bars and not as many girls. I leave today for Chiang Mai.[/QUOTE]Yes welcome to High Season!

I was also in town the same time. Actually wasn't that bad until after Xmass. When the hordes arrive. Afterwards a nightmare. Compounded by the fact that a lot of girls go back home for New Year's holidays too (AJ from Sex in City says almost 1/3 of his girls left, despite incentiv s he offered them).

I don't know what it is but girls seem to be more business like and less sweet in the high season. Also the super hot ones have their sponsors in town or get snapped up super quick, or are just sick of all the drunken slobs approaching them.

I got the fuck out of dodge and I'm in Saigon Now with my VN GF. But will be back Jan 3. Hopefully things die down and get back to the normal Pattaya we all know and love.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;1820281]
It is now open.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Adrena;1819759]
2. Is the Hooters finished yet?
[/QUOTE]Are you sure GreenBud? I was in Pattaya last week and as far as I could tell from the construction going on it would take at least another month or so to completion.
Acording to the website it will open January 16.

[URL]http://www.hooterspattaya.com[/URL]

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1819896]Mongering prices will have increased if you compare to 2009, but then again price increases are a fact of life and I do not think the price of pussy has kept up with inflation. So pussy-price-wise Pattaya (and Thailand as a whole) is still a very good destination in that respect.

The EUR / USD to Baht exchange rate probably had a larger influence on the real price (in your own currency) that you pay.

Last time I was in Pattaya, I found it still quite congenial. Whether you can pull some freebies is of course akin to a lottery, but I did not see much change in the scene as a whole over the several years I came here. That being said, I'm not a big fan of freebies from girls on The Game. I like to combine a hot sexy GF with some "excursions" into P4 P to spice up my life even more and have some variations. But to each his own, of course.

GFE and PSE is still abundantly available and easy to find and at prices not much more than years ago.[/QUOTE]When exactly was your last time in Pattaya? It has changed a lot compared to 2009 and even tremendously compared to say 10 years ago. IMHO and in the opinion of many other mongers anyway.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1820071]1 baht for 1 liter if you use the machine![/QUOTE]What machine?

[QUOTE=Mogwai;1820351]What machine?[/QUOTE]There are water machines around town that dispense filtered drinking water. Bring your bottle and fill it up. Most hotels and Condo complexes have one near by.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;1820346]Are you sure GreenBud? I was in Pattaya last week and as far as I could tell from the construction going on it would take at least another month or so to completion.
Acording to the website it will open January 16.[/QUOTE]Yes.

On the 29th, it didn't seem to be open. The bricks on the sidewalk wasn't set. On the 30th, it was open. They have a live band.

On the Pattaya People Channel, during an interview with some manage type from Hooters, he stated that it would open on January 7. Maybe this is a soft opening.

Happy New Year!

[QUOTE=JacoGillongo;1820002][URL]http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/crime/810144/russian-kazakhstani-go-go-dancers-arrested-in-pattaya[/URL][/QUOTE]Crazy Russian Girls in Pattaya was my favorite of the Russian clubs! I remember one night I went there around 8:30 and they weren't open and people were standing around. They said, "Come back around 10 pm. You know how Thais are." That led me to believe then that they were having problems with the authorities. Now we have confirmation. That blonde with the long hair could be the one I would go in there to see LOL! She gave me her LINE ID and claimed to be from Volgagrad. I also visited Moulin Rouge but didn't like it as the girls there were high-pressure types. I went to all the Russian clubs in Pattaya and the one that I found in Phuket. Figures the one with the hottest girls (Crazy Russian Girls) would be shut down. Well, they weren't fucking anybody anyway hahaha!

Where's hooters in Pattaya located?

[QUOTE=Breadman;1820508]Where's hooters in Pattaya located?[/QUOTE]I heard its on beach road but not sure but way things going in Pattaya don't expect much from it.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1820508]Where's hooters in Pattaya located?[/QUOTE]On Beach Road, just south of Soi 13.

Last night, that female singer of the band was fantastic. I was on the songthaew bus, and even other people commented on her voice.

- Traffic sucks. In the afternoon, 2nd Road was horrible. There weren't any songthaews going to Jomtien, even though there was a huge crowd waiting. During the night, it was faster to walk (which I did) on Beach Road. They were smart and got rid of the parking and street carts near Walking Street, but people walking on the street made traffic so slow.

- The New Year's Eve scene was interesting. People were all over the beach. At midnight, fireworks were going all over the city (at the pier and along the beach). I thought it was neat.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;1820350]When exactly was your last time in Pattaya? It has changed a lot compared to 2009 and even tremendously compared to say 10 years ago. IMHO and in the opinion of many other mongers anyway.[/QUOTE]I was last in Pattaya in November 2015. Quite recently I'd say. My history here goes back about five or six years and in that period of time I did not experience any real big leaps in prices.

When I first came here, Soi 6 was 1000 baht ST including room/barfine. Now it is 1000 baht excluding room/barfine of 300 baht and that price hike only happened quite recently. The Pattaya Walking Street agogo scene may have become much more expensive, but I never got any girl there. For some reason that scene did not appeal to me, whereas the Bangkok agogo scene at Soi Cowboy provided me with many nice nights.

I went to Hooters tonight because my favorite fish place was closed. It is located next to Starbucks and appears to be in full swing. I got there at 745 and had to wait a few minutes for the hostess to come get me and take me to a table. I sat at the high bar table that faces the beach. There were not many customers.

From there it took 15 minutes for someone to come take my order. 30 minutes after that I inquired what was taking so long. By then the place was packed. The waitress finally brought me my cold food and apologized saying there was not many staff but many customers. I had 10 wings for 400 baht and a small bottle of water for 70 baht.

There is a mechanical bull on stage that you can ride for free. I hated that all the tables and chairs are high. There appeared to be some normal ones upstairs. It is set up open-air so I have no idea how they will run the place when rainy season comes.

Any good looking busty ones, E? Did you have any "takeout"tagreplacement0}.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1820719]It is set up open-air so I have no idea how they will run the place when rainy season comes.[/QUOTE]Maybe they will have wet t-shirt contests?
Anyway, it explains how they could finish the construction so quickly.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1815361]I was there last night, but don't recall seeing a girl that looked like that. Have you checked their FB page. ? (Just google Ruby Club Pattaya) They are pretty good about posting most of the girls.[/QUOTE]I read on another board that there is a great bar in Soi 6, where the girls do anything in the club as well as upstairs and that it is the naughtiest bar in the Soi, the poster would not give the name of the bar.

Does anyone know what bar he might be talking about?

Hey guys,

I will be staying in Pattaya for 2 weeks in May, could anyone advise what is the best area to stay in, one that is closest to the gogo / beer bars and massage joints, thanks!

Your query should have been posted on the Pattaya Hotels thread. http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1875-Pattaya-Hotels

Stay anywhere on the baht bus route that circles along Beach Road and 2nd Road, between South and North Pattaya Road. Gogo bars mainly on Walking Street, beer bars on soi 6, soi 7 and soi 8, and the big massage places bunched together on 2nd Road, between soi 1 and soi 4.

For something cheap and fairly decent consider Baywalk Residence at Beach and soi 13/3.

[QUOTE=PaulAlbert;1821121]Hey guys,
I will be staying in Pattaya for 2 weeks in May, could anyone advise what is the best area to stay in, one that is closest to the gogo / beer bars and massage joints, thanks![/QUOTE]Different area for different taste and you post your request in the wrong thread. Here for the hotels in Pattaya [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1875-Pattaya-Hotels[/URL].

Gogo, beer bars and massage? Soi Bhuakao around Soi Diana, Soi LK Metro, Soi Honey.

[QUOTE=RobertJc;1820912]I read on another board that there is a great bar in Soi 6, where the girls do anything in the club as well as upstairs and that it is the naughtiest bar in the Soi, the poster would not give the name of the bar.
Does anyone know what bar he might be talking about?[/QUOTE]Urban Legend from the past? Probable. Some bars offer BJ service downstairs. All girls in all bars will do everythings in the room upstairs.

[QUOTE=ChristianG;1821173]Urban Legend from the past? Probable. Some bars offer BJ service downstairs. All girls in all bars will do everythings in the room upstairs.[/QUOTE]The poster was there last month said girls walk around semi nude and do the act downstairs but won't name the place someone.

Suggested it might me Heroes never been there my guess is My Friend You Bar, anyone else have suggestions?

Dear Seniors,

I'm planning for a Trip in Feb / March. Went through various escort sites & their service is appealing when compared with GoGo since all these BF / LD / other stuff aren't involved. I also read escorts are more professional compared to GoGo girls.

Now the question is, is it possible to negotiate in terms of rate / shots with escort agencies? Like is it acceptable by them. To be frank I'm looking for LT with multi pops option with as economical rate as possible.

Please guide & TIA.

[QUOTE=ChristianG;1821173]All girls in all bars will do everythings in the room upstairs.[/QUOTE]Well, it depends on how you define "all" and "everything". From my limited experience, most of the cute ones (i.e. the marginal ones or the diamonds on the rough) will not do CIM and/or lesbian stuff.

Most girls at My Friend You Bar will give the PSE experience...if you like the marginal looking girls.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;1821528]Well, it depends on how you define "all" and "everything". From my limited experience, most of the cute ones (i.e. the marginal ones or the diamonds on the rough) will not do CIM and/or lesbian stuff.
[/QUOTE]I was referring to the classic suck&fuck.

[QUOTE=MusicalToM;1821401]Dear Seniors,

I'm planning for a Trip in Feb / March. Went through various escort sites & their service is appealing when compared with GoGo since all these BF / LD / other stuff aren't involved. I also read escorts are more professional compared to GoGo girls.

Now the question is, is it possible to negotiate in terms of rate / shots with escort agencies? Like is it acceptable by them. To be frank I'm looking for LT with multi pops option with as economical rate as possible.

Please guide & TIA.[/QUOTE]The escort sector in Thailand lives a marginal existence it appears. Most of it is in the Bangkok area. I don't know if Pattaya is very popular for them and they may charge you extra transportation costs.

There is much bait & switch, photoshopped pictures on the websites, high prices, . . .

Have a look at the Escort sub-forum and read it. There are some good escort ladies (if one can believe the few positive reports) but most reports are not so enthousiast.

There is one constant though: escorts are expensive. For a whole night (Long Time or LT) they charge a fortune. And I never heard that their rates are negotiable.

Far easier and cheaper to go to any agogo or bar and choose your companion. As most agogos have at least topless or even nude danbcing there is no "surprise" what you are getting and for the price of a ladydrink you can interview her so you can gauge how compatible you both will be.

The average LT price is about 3500 baht, add a barfine of 600 or 700 baht and some drinks for you and her and it all adds up to about 5000 baht for a night and morning of fun. That will be less than half of what an escort will charge you.

But of course, it is your money so you decide yourself.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1821598]There is one constant though: escorts are expensive. For a whole night (Long Time or LT) they charge a fortune. And I never heard that their rates are negotiable.[/QUOTE]And besides that, it is going to be the same girls that you can find anywhere else. Anyone can put an add online saying they are an escort and charge you a bunch of damn money. And it seems the poster wants escort service with Beach Road negotiations.

Why must guys always try to reinvent the wheel? If you do a search in this forum for escorts what will you come up with? If I went to McDonald's and SEARCHED the menu and all I saw was Big Mac, McNuggets, McRib, ice cream, french fries no matter how much I read the menu over and over; but then I decided to ask about a T-bone steak I would look like a jacka$$. I'm surprised you missed it. It is right under thr caviar.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1821598]Far easier and cheaper to go to any agogo or bar and choose your companion. As most agogos have at least topless or even nude danbcing there is no "surprise" what you are getting and for the price of a ladydrink you can interview her so you can gauge how compatible you both will be.

The average LT price is about 3500 baht, add a barfine of 600 or 700 baht and some drinks for you and her and it all adds up to about 5000 baht for a night and morning of fun. That will be less than half of what an escort will charge you.

But of course, it is your money so you decide yourself.[/QUOTE]All very good points. A LT escort will cost a fortune. At least at a gogo you get to see and interview the girl first. An escort girl and her heavily photoshopped photos or even a bait and switch by the agency? No thanks.

Gogo club is a much better choice.

I just spent about a week in Pattaya and in all that time wasn't tempted by any new girls, despite the fact that my dwindling "little black book" meant I only had action every other day. The girls in the bars & on the beach all seemed older & particularly fatter than ever.

One longed for and unexpected reunion with a former beach favorite emphasized the decline in depressing fashion: she had been, as I suspected, jailed for drugs use for the last 18+ months. Sadly, she was now grossly fat, a misfortune she explained succinctly - "no drugs in jail". I had long for this girl on many previous visits. A real passionate three holer. But now I couldn't bring myself to attempt it with such a fatty (also I'm always a bit afraid of scabies in the newly released). Another human tragedy caused by the brutal authorities.

[QUOTE=Opebo;1821644]

.. Another human tragedy caused by the brutal authorities.

[/QUOTE]Very strange view of reality! - A Girl is a drug dealer and then the brutal authorities are responsible for a Desaster.

[QUOTE=Opebo;1821644]The girls in the bars & on the beach all seemed older & particularly fatter than ever.[/QUOTE]Agree Beach Road and soi 7 and soi 8 don't have much to offer but instead of wasting your vacation away, change your game plan and go to gogo clubs and soapies where there are plenty of nice thin younger girls.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1821725]Agree Beach Road and soi 7 and soi 8 don't have much to offer but instead of wasting your vacation away, change your game plan and go to gogo clubs and soapies where there are plenty of nice thin younger girls.[/QUOTE]Where you can get 1 for the price of 10 (or 1 for the price of 5 concerning the soapies)? Therein lies the rub.

[QUOTE=MusicalToM;1821401]Dear Seniors,

I'm planning for a Trip in Feb / March. Went through various escort sites & their service is appealing when compared with GoGo since all these BF / LD / other stuff aren't involved. I also read escorts are more professional compared to GoGo girls.

Now the question is, is it possible to negotiate in terms of rate / shots with escort agencies? Like is it acceptable by them. To be frank I'm looking for LT with multi pops option with as economical rate as possible.

Please guide & TIA.[/QUOTE]I believe there is a separate thread on the Thailand page called Bangkok Escort Agencies. You can find some pretty enthralling discussions among your fellow escort enthusiasts about agencies and escorts and their performances and their prices on those pages. The primary reason people opt for an escort service is the discretion involved. They do not want to be seen inside a gogo or in a bar drinking and fooling around with girls.

Personally, I do not fancy the escort model for reasons stated by other members on this forum earlier. Photoshopped pictures, bait & switch, astronomical prices, absence of an interview, no build up to intimacy, etc. Further, in a city like BKK where there are nearly over 25,000 girls working at any given time, why would I call in an escort?

[QUOTE=ChristianG;1821173]Urban Legend from the past? Probable. Some bars offer BJ service downstairs. All girls in all bars will do everythings in the room upstairs.[/QUOTE]Yep, that would be My Friend You. Its a tiny bar on the left hand side of Soi 6 when you enter from 2nd road side. They have bar stools where the girls will get you warmed up while you have a drink. After that you can move behind a bit where there are sofas to sit while the girl goes on her knees to blow you. Privacy is provided by a beaded curtain that does little stop roving eyes. Of course, for the brave, this deed can be done right on the bar stool. I remember a time when I got a BJ right on the bar stool while reading the Bangkok Post I had brought along with me from my hotel.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1821858]Yep, that would be My Friend You. Its a tiny bar on the left hand side of Soi 6 when you enter from 2nd road side. They have bar stools where the girls will get you warmed up while you have a drink. After that you can move behind a bit where there are sofas to sit while the girl goes on her knees to blow you. Privacy is provided by a beaded curtain that does little stop roving eyes. Of course, for the brave, this deed can be done right on the bar stool. I remember a time when I got a BJ right on the bar stool while reading the Bangkok Post I had brought along with me from my hotel.[/QUOTE]I know My Friend You, and what happen inside is not more naughty than what happen in other bars around Pattaya. At Bar De La Poste in soi Lengkee girls dress off total naked for a LD and give you a public BBBJ on the stool without any curtains LOL.

My first night back in town after the New Year.

It just turned midnight and I am getting ready to hit the discos: Red Car, 808, and maybe Mixx.

Hopefully the High Season crowd will have thinned down a bit by now. I will post my experiences tomorrow.

Stay horny my friends.

Uncle-V.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1821598]The escort sector in Thailand lives a marginal existence it appears. Most of it is in the Bangkok area. I don't know if Pattaya is very popular for them and they may charge you extra transportation costs.

There is much bait & switch, photoshopped pictures on the websites, high prices, . . .

Have a look at the Escort sub-forum and read it. There are some good escort ladies (if one can believe the few positive reports) but most reports are not so enthousiast.

There is one constant though: escorts are expensive. For a whole night (Long Time or LT) they charge a fortune. And I never heard that their rates are negotiable.

Far easier and cheaper to go to any agogo or bar and choose your companion. As most agogos have at least topless or even nude danbcing there is no "surprise" what you are getting and for the price of a ladydrink you can interview her so you can gauge how compatible you both will be.

The average LT price is about 3500 baht, add a barfine of 600 or 700 baht and some drinks for you and her and it all adds up to about 5000 baht for a night and morning of fun. That will be less than half of what an escort will charge you.

But of course, it is your money so you decide yourself.[/QUOTE]To be honest I read through all available & relevant threads regarding GoGo & Escort. To me it seems like people who availed Escort services are happy about it & state GoGo time consuming along with almost same expenses. Whereas as per your reply I see your reasons make sense if somebody is fun loving like me. And of-course I know Escort photos are fully photo-shopped, unexpected surprises are obvious.

Also I was going through various backpage ads & seemed there is some activity from inde girls who claim to be Escorts in there ads. I assume these ads are also kind of baits. I think I'll skip them.

Now coming to GoGo, negotiations in terms of shots & any other special services like A level are how relevant? And if it's relevant then what's the frequency of getting these services from nice pretty girls?

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1821930]My first night back in town after the New Year.

It just turned midnight and I am getting ready to hit the discos: Red Car, 808, and maybe Mixx.

Hopefully the High Season crowd will have thinned down a bit by now. I will post my experiences tomorrow.[/QUOTE]I don't think there ever was a high season crowd. New Years Eve and New Years day the streets were flooded with people and cars but after that this place has been as quiet as a mouse.

Report on last night:

So the crowds seem to have thinned out, but so has the number of hot girls. I hit Red Car, 808, Ibar / Insomnia, Brooklyn (completely dead) and Mixx. I saw maybe 5-6 girls total I would take home. All of them either already with dudes or disinterested.

I have never seen so many fugglies or 40+ girls at Ibar / Insomnia!

I think the stunners have earned some cash after the NY holidays and are taking a break. My 2 fave regulars are out of town right now.

Maybe things will get back to normal in a day or two and the FL scene will pick up a bit.

Still plenty of hotties in the gogos. Peeked into Saphire and Ironbar and I liked the lineups there. So I may have to bite the bullet financially and focus on these the rest of the trip.

[QUOTE=MusicalToM;1821989]Now coming to GoGo, negotiations in terms of shots & any other special services like A level are how relevant? And if it's relevant then what's the frequency of getting these services from nice pretty girls?[/QUOTE]Negotiations are the heart of the matter with agogo girls. The very first principal rule for anyone except the most experienced and well known (to the girl) mongers is to always negotiate all services you require from her [B]before[/B] you book her.

Not only are later negotiations when you are "in the act" awkward, she will be able to extract a far higher price from you.

As to the services that are available from agogo girls, you will understand that with thousands of girls available, there will always be someone who will provide you with what you want. The problem is to find her, but my experience is that agogo girls are not shy. You can always engage the help of the local mamasan and ask her. For a ladydrink she will point you to the "right" girl (for any definition of "right" of course). But even then get the girl to confirm the services herself and don't assume that the girl is aware of what you asked / agreed with the mamasan.

There is now actually a bar called The Coconut Bar at the coconut bar.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1822184]There is now actually a bar called The Coconut Bar at the coconut bar.[/QUOTE]Hasn't that place been around for a while now? On the corner of one of the Soi 13's and BR. A big mural of Glen Quagmire (or maybe its Bart Simpsons) on the wall.

Or maybe you are talking about another place?

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1822228]Hasn't that place been around for a while now? On the corner of one of the Soi 13's and BR. A big mural of Glen Quagmire (or maybe its Bart Simpsons) on the wall.

Or maybe you are talking about another place?[/QUOTE]That is it. My tailor and watch men are right near so I park there a lot but have never noticed it.

Thanks to everybody who cleared my concerns about Escort service, especially to "Wolvenvacht" - a big thank.

Since I don't have any knowledge of in negotiations, what should be the ideal approach to start it & how to end? Also when to identify that you are paying the actual & fair price. And if somebody is providing any special services, then is it like we have to pay them extra for the service or it's all included in the deal?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1822229]That is it. My tailor and watch men are right near so I park there a lot but have never noticed it.[/QUOTE]Yeah I think it's been around for at least a year or so. I usually pass it on my way to WS from my condo via motorbike. But I don't ever remember seeing any hot ladies in there.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1822135]Report on last night:

So the crowds seem to have thinned out, but so has the number of hot girls. I hit Red Car, 808, Ibar / Insomnia, Brooklyn (completely dead) and Mixx. I saw maybe 5-6 girls total I would take home. All of them either already with dudes or disinterested.

I have never seen so many fugglies or 40+ girls at Ibar / Insomnia!
[/QUOTE]Thats really dissappointing to hear UV. Discos generally have some pick up options irrespective of the season. Guess you can try bfining from Simon Bar complex or other Bar complexes on Second Road earlier in the night. Bars around LK Metro or Soi Bukhao might also have some good options as well.

If not then you can turn to gogos in pattaya but IMHO only after exhausting all above options.

[QUOTE=IllusionHeart;1822280]Thats really dissappointing to hear UV. Discos generally have some pick up options irrespective of the season. Guess you can try bfining from Simon Bar complex or other Bar complexes on Second Road earlier in the night. Bars around LK Metro or Soi Bukhao might also have some good options as well.

If not then you can turn to gogos in pattaya but IMHO only after exhausting all above options.[/QUOTE]If Ibar / 808 / Red Car and Mixx are dead, then there is little chance Simon will have any quality women to shag. Simon bar girls are good for service but they do not fare well in the looks department. If Uncle found the ones at IBar fugly, then I dread to think how he would review the Simon women. LOL.

I guess biting the financial bullet is the only way out.

[QUOTE=MusicalToM;1822245]Since I don't have any knowledge of in negotiations, what should be the ideal approach to start it & how to end? Also when to identify that you are paying the actual & fair price. And if somebody is providing any special services, then is it like we have to pay them extra for the service or it's all included in the deal?[/QUOTE]Ah, the fine art of negotiations. It takes years and years to master it and, have no doubt, those bargirls are years ahead of you, . . . Always.

The way I approach it is by setting myself a budget, say I will aim for an LT (which includes BJ, FS, DATY, DFK and two pops before going to sleep and one pop in the morning) for a fee between 3000 and 4000 baht plus barfine and 1000 baht expenses (mainly drinks for her and me and perhaps some tips for serving girls or mamasans).

I then go to the places I think I might find someone to my liking, be it beer bars or agogos and have in my mind a list of "qualities", e. G. Small tits, long hair, trimmed pussy, not too skinny, speaks English fairly well, bubbly personality.

If I find someone who fulfills are my qualities and falls within my budget, I take her without further delay. Never ever think there will be someone better, cheaper, more sexy in the next venue: you are likely to end up alone in your bed that night.

If no-one answers my list of qualities, I go to the next place and will accept someone that fulfills all qualities but one. If again no success, I will look for someone with all qualities but two, . . . Wash, rince, repeat until successful. This system has always helped me very well.

The budget you set yourself protects you against grossly overpaying and the "decreasing quality method" almost guarantees you someone to your liking. There are actually better ways to choose that are statistically and mathematically proven to guarantee you a more optimal outcome, but I'm afraid if I explain those methods here, people will think I'm a freak.

[QUOTE=IllusionHeart;1822280]Thats really dissappointing to hear UV. Discos generally have some pick up options irrespective of the season. Guess you can try bfining from Simon Bar complex or other Bar complexes on Second Road earlier in the night. Bars around LK Metro or Soi Bukhao might also have some good options as well.

If not then you can turn to gogos in pattaya but IMHO only after exhausting all above options.[/QUOTE]Great to hear from you always, my friend.

There were plenty of friendlies with enticing looks. But none enticed me. SO the problem may be with me and not Pattaya.

This always happens when I get back form my visits with my VN lady. She has my number for sure. 555.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1822401]

There are actually better ways to choose that are statistically and mathematically proven to guarantee you a more optimal outcome, but I'm afraid if I explain those methods here, people will think I'm a freak.[/QUOTE]I think the only people who would balk at reading what has proven to you to more effectively get what you want and criticize you for it are the low demand, low expectation punters who are determined to be more of the problem than the solution to improving the quality of service from practitioners of the P4 P trade. Consequently, who gives a flip what they think. LOL.

I would be very interested in reading what you have learned along the way.

[QUOTE=MusicalToM;1822245]Thanks to everybody who cleared my concerns about Escort service, especially to "Wolvenvacht" - a big thank.

Since I don't have any knowledge of in negotiations, what should be the ideal approach to start it & how to end? Also when to identify that you are paying the actual & fair price. And if somebody is providing any special services, then is it like we have to pay them extra for the service or it's all included in the deal?[/QUOTE]You need to do some reading first and then you will have an idea about what are the average prices for the different options available in Pattaya. And by reading I don't mean go back two pages, before my last trip to Pattaya I went back over 100 pages and read forward and I have spent over 6 cumulative months in Pattaya the last 8 years. There have been some great reports this last year so skim through the short posts and find some of the long trip reports. Read and you can learn the different options and prices available. For example all these places have different price points and different things to look out for: beach road, Soi 6, beer bars, soapie massages, insomnia, gogo bars, Soi metro, and the list goes on.

Almost all you need to know has already been written so go read and then when you have a specific question, ask away.

When are the dates for Songkran festival in Pattaya? Is it the following weekend after the events in BKK (Apr 12-15)?

[QUOTE=EihTooms;1822487]I would be very interested in reading what you have learned along the way.[/QUOTE]It is not a personal invention, but a method that was discovered / developed by some statisticians to find an answer to the following problem:

"How to choose the best candidate from a list of candidates, given that you do not know what quality the next candidate has [B]and[/B] once a candidate has been examined and not chosen, you cannot go back and choose her".

This is of course very close to our mongering experience: you see a lovely in one bar, but you hesitate to take her since there is likely to be a better one in the next bar. But if you don't find that next more lovely one, it appears your first choice is now already taken by another punter.

So how to solve this problem?

It turns out to be quite simple (I spare you the underlying statistics).

Just go on your usual bar / agogo / club / disco / . . . Crawl and choose as you usually do. Interview likely candidates and give them a score. That is of course the hairy part and is highly individual. Your high score may not be my high score, but that doesn't matter provided you use a consistent scoring system during the same experiment and a higher score means the candidate is better in your eyes.

Remember the highest score among the first three or four (the actual cut-off point lies somewhere between 3 and 4, but one cannot do a "half interview") , but don't take any of these candidates. Just be cool and relaxed about this rule: if you meet a girl that gives you an instant hard-on and makes you almost cream your shorts just by looking into her eyes, by all means take her and f*ck the experiment and science.

Then continue your quest and keep on scoring next candidates until you find one that scores higher than the top score of the first three. That's the one to take.

It can be proven statistically that it is more likely than not that if you continue your search (and assume you cannot interview more than 10 candidates in one night) you will not find a better one. If I remember well, the odds are about 60 against 40 this method finds you the best candidate.

Of course you will agree it is a rather strange method: examining three candidates knowing you will not pick them. Though luck for those early birds, indeed and you will probably best move to another bar after each interview in order not to draw strange glances. Also it takes some effort and time (and money) that we cannot always invest.

But there is a short-cut possible!

Assuming the population of WG remains more or less the same during a certain period of time (say a few weeks maximum) [B]and[/B] you can keep your scoring system the same, then each next night you can simply skip the "first three interviews" and use the highest score of your first night as the threshold point for the next nights.

Mind you this method does not guarantee you end up with the best possible candidate, but it will guarantee you that your choice is likely to be better than making a random choice from a sequential list of candidates where the quality of the "next candidate" is an unknown.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1822135]Report on last night:

So the crowds seem to have thinned out, but so has the number of hot girls. I hit Red Car, 808, Ibar / Insomnia, Brooklyn (completely dead) and Mixx. I saw maybe 5-6 girls total I would take home. All of them either already with dudes or disinterested.

I have never seen so many fugglies or 40+ girls at Ibar / Insomnia!

I think the stunners have earned some cash after the NY holidays and are taking a break. My 2 fave regulars are out of town right now.

Maybe things will get back to normal in a day or two and the FL scene will pick up a bit.

Still plenty of hotties in the gogos. Peeked into Saphire and Ironbar and I liked the lineups there. So I may have to bite the bullet financially and focus on these the rest of the trip.[/QUOTE]I was at ibar a few nights back. Saw one real stunner. A thai with blonde hair and waxed skin. She wanted 4 K to stay until the next day, appeared reluctant to stay until 6 pm and wanted to leave earlier in the morning.

I tried to bring her down to 3K she wouldn't budge and wanted 3K for ST only. Or my negotiating skills are poor. But I have to say. I would not have minded paying her 4K considering how primed and groomed she was in her looks, fit for a high end p0rn movie. If she had agreed to 4 pops with an A$$ entry included until 6 pm the next day, I would have eventually, but my bad, I didn't handle the discussion so well and we didnt even get there while she insisted on 4k. I bought her a drink and after a while of chatting I gave up and we parted ways.

The next cutie I approached straight away said 3K gesticulating with her fingers. I was kinda taken aback because I had barely said Hello, and exchanged names. I looked at her again and then again and blinked thrice while I made up my mind about whether she meant what I thought she meant. She noticed the hesitation and changed her mind and said so. LOL! Talk about being jumped at. Because she was so well dressed I simply didn't expect such a blatant upfront quote. Too bad.

The rest were mostly fuglies I agree.

[QUOTE=PeeMan;1822754]I was at ibar a few nights back. Saw one real stunner. A thai with blonde hair and waxed skin. She wanted 4 K to stay until the next day, appeared reluctant to stay until 6 pm and wanted to leave earlier in the morning.

I tried to bring her down to 3K she wouldn't budge and wanted 3K for ST only. Or my negotiating skills are poor. But I have to say. I would not have minded paying her 4K considering how primed and groomed she was in her looks, fit for a high end p0rn movie. If she had agreed to 4 pops with an A$$ entry included until 6 pm the next day, I would have eventually, but my bad, I didn't handle the discussion so well and we didnt even get there while she insisted on 4k. I bought her a drink and after a while of chatting I gave up and we parted ways.

The next cutie I approached straight away said 3K gesticulating with her fingers. I was kinda taken aback because I had barely said Hello, and exchanged names. I looked at her again and then again and blinked thrice while I made up my mind about whether she meant what I thought she meant. She noticed the hesitation and changed her mind and said so. LOL! Talk about being jumped at. Because she was so well dressed I simply didn't expect such a blatant upfront quote. Too bad.

The rest were mostly fuglies I agree.[/QUOTE]Was the blonde stunner Jen? I have taken her on several occasions and she is a hot. Worth the money IMHO. But kind of played out for me. We had our tryst and I am looking for something new. Been there, seen it, done it, have the T-Shirt, etc.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1822554]"How to choose the best candidate from a list of candidates, given that you do not know what quality the next candidate has [B]and[/B] once a candidate has been examined and not chosen, you cannot go back and choose her".

(I spare you the underlying statistics)[/QUOTE]

Insightful and interesting. I heard the rule before to "establish the baseline using the first 3, then take the first one who exceeds that", but thought it was just an arbitrary rule of thumb, not an optimal statistical solution. For the math minded among us (there are some), would you mind posting a link or the name of the problem / paper to search for?

Of course, that presumes one wanting to find an optimal partner efficiently, and not enjoying the hunt itself.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1822789]Was the blonde stunner Jen? I have taken her on several occasions and she is a hot. Worth the money IMHO. But kind of played out for me. We had our tryst and I am looking for something new. Been there, seen it, done it, have the T-Shirt, etc.[/QUOTE]Looks like her, but she looked so much better in real life. She had just arrived and wasn't looking stoned and worn out like in the pic you attached LOL!
Actually on second thoughts - the gal I saw had well exercised shoulders/body and upright bosom that defied gravity without looking like silicone makeovers - not saggy like in your pic ... and I don't recall her name anymore
Cheers.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1822925]Insightful and interesting. I heard the rule before to "establish the baseline using the first 3, then take the first one who exceeds that", but thought it was just an arbitrary rule of thumb, not an optimal statistical solution. For the math minded among us (there are some), would you mind posting a link or the name of the problem / paper to search for?

Of course, that presumes one wanting to find an optimal partner efficiently, and not enjoying the hunt itself.[/QUOTE]

It is not just about "establishing a baseline" only. The math / stats part comes in to calculate how big your sample for the baseline should be. Too large and you are more likley to find the optimal solution in your sample (and hence rejected); too small and you may end up with a too low threshold and pick a less than optimal winner.

Depending on the source this optimal base line sample is said to be either n/e or 1/(square root of n), with n being the size of the population you can check in one experiment. For a size n = 10 (my assumption of the maximum number you can check out in one evening), the optimal size is between 3 and 4. There is a subtle difference between the 1/e and 1/(square root of n): the former is for finding the [b]best[/b] candidate, the latter for finding a [b]good enough[/b] candidate, but for a population size of 10 both are between 3 and 4, so are actually the same as you cannot interview a fractional candidate. Let's say that 3 interviews establishes a base line for a "good enough" one, whereas 4 interviews will optimize your search for a "best" candidate.

You can find a nice explanation of the so-called "secretary problem" at [URL]http://rs.io/the-secretary-problem-explained-dating/[/URL].

Yes, I applied the secretary problem to finding hookers. I apologize to all secretaries. :)

[QUOTE=PeeMan;1822926]Looks like her, but she looked so much better in real life. She had just arrived and wasn't looking stoned and worn out like in the pic you attached LOL!
Actually on second thoughts - the gal I saw had well exercised shoulders/body and upright bosom that defied gravity without looking like silicone makeovers - not saggy like in your pic ... and I don't recall her name anymore
Cheers.[/QUOTE]Yeah that is a bad pic of her. Just the only one I had handy.

Here is another where she is lookign better.

BTW: her boobs are sillies, but they are damned near perfect. She got the super expensive kind and could not drink alcohol for a few weeks after surgery.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1822940]Yeah that is a bad pic of her. Just the only one I had handy.

Here is another where she is lookign better.

BTW: her boobs are sillies, but they are damned near perfect. She got the super expensive kind and could not drink alcohol for a few weeks after surgery.[/QUOTE]That's her all right. Oh fakes? I hate fakes. No joy in feeling them up ever. Guess I saved me some money. Ahem!

Cheers.

[QUOTE=PeeMan;1823203]That's her all right. Oh fakes? I hate fakes. No joy in feeling them up ever. Guess I saved me some money. Ahem!

Cheers.[/QUOTE]You haven't had the pleasure of feeling those up yet, my man. They are damned close to real.

In other news, things are slowly getting back to normal. Some hotties in Ibar last night one of which I took home for a very satisfying LT. Absolutely smoking body and my book and very cute and smiley face. She only wanted 2. 5 K and stayed till around noon. Great girls and great GFE. I think I will wife up with her for my last few days here as I really don't feel like the hassle of the hunt. Ibar is still way too crowded with douchie dudes. And this one is a keeper. Could be the new regular.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1823381]You haven't had the pleasure of feeling those up yet, my man. They are damned close to real.
[/QUOTE]Uuuh. Let sour melons remain sour melons. Too late for me to go back.

Cheers

Hi all,

Sorry for the newbie question, but looking at the reports from Pattaya, it seems the scene here is mostly bars, is that correct? Is there much of an oilies / soapies scene, like in Bangkok? Just curious if there are any places like Nataree (in BKK) in Pattaya.

Thanks so much and sorry if this has been asked before!

The main concentration of soapies on the baht bus route are Sabai Dee, Honey 2, Sabai Room, and Rasputin on 2nd Road arond soi 2. Honey 1 (not so good) is at soi 10. There are others. Google search.

[QUOTE=Optional;1824463]Hi all,

Sorry for the newbie question, but looking at the reports from Pattaya, it seems the scene here is mostly bars, is that correct? Is there much of an oilies / soapies scene, like in Bangkok? Just curious if there are any places like Nataree (in BKK) in Pattaya.

Thanks so much and sorry if this has been asked before![/QUOTE]Hello,

Hope this helps you, a list of oilies and soapies, I am going in the first week and Feb and will post while I am there.

Rasputin.

Honey 2.

Sabai Dee.

PP Massage.

Amorn Massage.

Paradise Massage on Soi Honey.

Nataree Massage.

Emmanuelle.

The Lord.

Dream Heaven.

Addict Massage.

Copa Cabana.

Emannuelle Entertainment.

My Princess.

Mitu Massage.

Any reviews from seniors on the above list would be appreciated.

TheTank

Thank you! I guess in particular, I'm looking for something more high-end, not the cheaper options in Pattaya like Walking Street, Soi 6...instead, where would I go to find the newest, cutest, youngest (legal of course!!) talent, if money wasn't an issue? I guess something similar to Nataree in Bangkok...does that sort of thing exist in Pattaya?

And does anyone have any suggestions on the best girl-friendly hotels that are within walking distance to the action?

Thanks so much! This is my first trip to Pattaya, but happy to help anyone out if they ever need tips on Bangkok, as I've been there for a long time now.



[QUOTE=TheTank85;1824497]Hello,Is

Hope this helps you, a list of oilies and soapies, I am going in the first week and Feb and will post while I am there.

Rasputin.

Honey 2.

Sabai Dee.

PP Massage.

Amorn Massage.

Paradise Massage on Soi Honey.

Nataree Massage.

Emmanuelle.

The Lord.

Dream Heaven.

Addict Massage.

Copa Cabana.

Emannuelle Entertainment.

My Princess.

Mitu Massage.

Any reviews from seniors on the above list would be appreciated.

TheTank[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Optional;1824613]Thank you! I guess in particular, I'm looking for something more high-end, not the cheaper options in Pattaya like Walking Street, Soi 6...instead, where would I go to find the newest, cutest, youngest (legal of course!!) talent, if money wasn't an issue?
[/QUOTE]With barfines up to 1600 baht Walking Street for sure is not one of the cheaper options.

If there is one thing I have learned in Thailand is that price and quality are two totally different things that have seldom any discernible connection.

Pretty, young and fresh from the farm can be found in Soi 6 as much as in an up-market agogo club.

Not sure how much research you did but Walking Street is as expensive as you can get. That is where many of the young ones (18-22 year olds) are. A night can easily get out of control and cost 2000 baht in drinks, 1000 barfine, 2000 baht dinner, 2000 baht more for drinks at Insomnia, 4000 baht LT, 1000 baht lunch the next day. 12,000 baht is not what many guys here go for.

The soapies I listed are the high end ones. Rasputin has 7000 baht Russian girls. 1 looked super hot but no chance I was paying that for 90 minutes. 2500-3000 baht is more the range for the nice ones age under 23.

As Wolvenvacht says, don't write off soi 6 just because it's 300 barfine + 1000 to the girl. Some very nice girls can be found if you walk through enough times on your trip.

Tank's list includes quite a few BKK massage places like The Lord, Nataree, Emmanuelle, etc. etc.

re. hotels check the Pattaya Hotels thread.

[QUOTE=Optional;1824613]Thank you! I guess in particular, I'm looking for something more high-end, not the cheaper options in Pattaya like Walking Street, Soi 6...instead, where would I go to find the newest, cutest, youngest (legal of course!!) talent, if money wasn't an issue? I guess something similar to Nataree in Bangkok...does that sort of thing exist in Pattaya?

And does anyone have any suggestions on the best girl-friendly hotels that are within walking distance to the action?

Thanks so much! This is my first trip to Pattaya, but happy to help anyone out if they ever need tips on Bangkok, as I've been there for a long time now.[/QUOTE]I find that the best that Pattaya has to offer is the nightly line-up at Baccara on Walking Street, if money is not an option.

Hotel: Baywalk Residence; 5 minute walk to WS and if you pay up, nice bay views from your balcony. Very guest friendly, don't even take their ID.

Where are the best girls as in where are the hottest girls is a subjective question. Your "hot" might be my "no thank you - not on your life" and vice a versa, but for my idea of the best looking girls in Pattaya, check out the girls in What's Up, Sensations, Happy, and Sapphire A Go Go from 8 pm to 10 pm and then later after midnight, if you still haven't found what you are looking for, head over to I Bar.

BKK is a different story. There is more variety in the types of venues in BKK. So in addition to a few very good Go Go's like Crazy House, Baccara, RB4 (or whatever they are now calling themselves) and Mandarin which are more or less on par with the better Pattaya Walking Street Go Go's; BKK has some high end Soapy massage parlors and a number of G Clubs with some classy looking girls inside. Check out La Belle and the Lord Massage parlors and also the Pimp and Sherbert G Clubs. Pattaya has nothing to compare with these latter high end BKK venues. Be prepared to spend LARGE especially in the G Clubs or do not bother going.

This is far from a comprehensive list. I don't visit that many different Go Go's per trip anymore. I tend to rely 10 or so Go Go's that have served me well in the past and then I branch out a little from there. There are three predominate elements that make or break a bar as far as I am concerned: First is the quality of the girls, second is the fun or bawdiness factor of the bar, and third is my previous track record with the girls I have barfined out of each respective Go Go. Basically I go where the quality girls are, but then all things being equal, I like a bar where the girls are nude and where a certain amount of loose personal interaction is involved, even encouraged, and where I have good times. So here are my favorite Go Go's of 2015:

1. Crazy House (Soi 23) - this place has the quality girls, the nudity and the bawdiness. It is my current favorite bar in LOS.

2. Whats Up (Pat) - God I hate to like this bar, but I like it. I think the girls in here are just a little bit hotter/better looking than CH girls, but no nudity except for the lesbian show, not the same level of bawdiness, and the Agency barfine structure place this bar in 2nd place as far as I am concerned. Some guys love to hate this bar and I can understand why. But hot damn! They have the most attractive girls of any Go Go in LOS and that counts for something in my book.

3. Sapphire (Pat) - The quality of girls is a little less than at Whats Up, but this is a more fun place. I like this bar. This is a great bar.

4. Mandarin (Nana) - Yeah, another Agency Coyote bar, ugh, but what can I say, they have some sexy girls and I have had some good times in this bar in 2015.

5. RnB bar (formerly RB4) (Nana) - I haven't been here since the closure and the name change, but in October they still had a pretty good lineup. I take my time selecting a girl in this bar to avoid picking a fast turnaround girl. The prettiest girls wear tops and are on the right hand stage.

Honorable Mention: 6. Sensations (Pat), 7. Happy (Pat), 8. Baccara (Cowboy), 9. Bada Bing (Patpong) 10. Airport (Pat), 11. Shark (Cowboy), and 12. Suzi Wong* (Cowboy).

I know this list is very subjective and limited so I would like to hear from other BM's on which bars are their favorites. I thought 2015 was a pretty good year. I hope 2016 will be even better.

*One of my favorite bar girls used to work in Suzi Wong. After a bar raid in mid 2015, she being a Cambodian passport holder was no longer able to work in SW. With her in the lineup SW was one of my favorite bars of 2015. Without her in the lineup, not so much, but it is still a very friendly bar so it remains on my honorable mention list and it is worth stopping by and having a beer.

Thanks everyone for the advice and feedback, much appreciated! This is very helpful.

Seems like Walking Street is the equivalent of BKK's Soi Cowboy or Nana. I'm more interested in places such as La Belle, The Lord, etc, (I much prefer the quiet atmosphere of an soapy to bar streets) but they don't seem to exist in Pattaya. In any case, I'll check out Rasputin and your other suggestions.

Was planning on staying at Aya Boutique Hotel, heard good things about that place, but will check out Bayview Residence too.

[QUOTE=Optional;1824763]Thanks everyone for the advice and feedback, much appreciated! This is very helpful.

Seems like Walking Street is the equivalent of BKK's Soi Cowboy or Nana. I'm more interested in places such as La Belle, The Lord, etc, (I much prefer the quiet atmosphere of an soapy to bar streets) but they don't seem to exist in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Whoever wrote that post was confused. The Lord and La Belle are in Bangkok, not Pattaya.

Yes, I know. What I meant was that I was hoping to find the equivalent of The Lord, La Belle, or Nataree in Pattaya. But it seems like the focus of Pattaya is mostly bar streets, and not soapies. Having never been there, I'm sort of imagining Pattaya as a much larger Soi Cowboy. Anyways, I guess I'll find out soon!

[QUOTE=Lefeu;1824794]Whoever wrote that post was confused. The Lord and La Belle are in Bangkok, not Pattaya.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Optional;1824815]Yes, I know. What I meant was that I was hoping to find the equivalent of The Lord, La Belle, or Nataree in Pattaya. But it seems like the focus of Pattaya is mostly bar streets, and not soapies. Having never been there, I'm sort of imagining Pattaya as a much larger Soi Cowboy. Anyways, I guess I'll find out soon![/QUOTE]There are plenty of Soapies in Patts. Honey and Honey II are really good. Mostly CBJ but girls will DFK if they like you at both. Both are way cheaper than Nataree or Lords (2600 Baht ). And the lineup at Honey 2 is very good IMHO.

There is also Sabai Dee and Rasputin, but I haven't tried either one.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1824761]This is far from a comprehensive list. I don't visit that many different Go Go's per trip anymore. I tend to rely 10 or so Go Go's that have served me well in the past and then I branch out a little from there. There are three predominate elements that make or break a bar as far as I am concerned: First is the quality of the girls, second is the fun or bawdiness factor of the bar, and third is my previous track record with the girls I have barfined out of each respective Go Go. Basically I go where the quality girls are, but then all things being equal, I like a bar where the girls are nude and where a certain amount of loose personal interaction is involved, even encouraged, and where I have good times. So here are my favorite Go Go's of 2015:

1. Crazy House (Soi 23) - this place has the quality girls, the nudity and the bawdiness. It is my current favorite bar in LOS.

2. Whats Up (Pat) - God I hate to like this bar, but I like it. I think the girls in here are just a little bit hotter/better looking than CH girls, but no nudity except for the lesbian show, not the same level of bawdiness, and the Agency barfine structure place this bar in 2nd place as far as I am concerned. Some guys love to hate this bar and I can understand why. But hot damn! They have the most attractive girls of any Go Go in LOS and that counts for something in my book.

3. Sapphire (Pat) - The quality of girls is a little less than at Whats Up, but this is a more fun place. I like this bar. This is a great bar.

4. Mandarin (Nana) - Yeah, another Agency Coyote bar, ugh, but what can I say, they have some sexy girls and I have had some good times in this bar in 2015.

5. RnB bar (formerly RB4) (Nana) - I haven't been here since the closure and the name change, but in October they still had a pretty good lineup. I take my time selecting a girl in this bar to avoid picking a fast turnaround girl. The prettiest girls wear tops and are on the right hand stage.

Honorable Mention: 6. Sensations (Pat), 7. Happy (Pat), 8. Baccara (Cowboy), 9. Bada Bing (Patpong) 10. Airport (Pat), 11. Shark (Cowboy), and 12. Suzi Wong* (Cowboy).

I know this list is very subjective and limited so I would like to hear from other BM's on which bars are their favorites. I thought 2015 was a pretty good year. I hope 2016 will be even better.

*One of my favorite bar girls used to work in Suzi Wong. After a bar raid in mid 2015, she being a Cambodian passport holder was no longer able to work in SW. With her in the lineup SW was one of my favorite bars of 2015. Without her in the lineup, not so much, but it is still a very friendly bar so it remains on my honorable mention list and it is worth stopping by and having a beer.[/QUOTE]Great list my friend. I wish I had known about Whats Up. I would definitely have checked it out.

I would also add Iron Bar (Patts) the list. There are a few real stunners in there and girls take their tops off. Also a soapie tub show in the middle of the club. The girls will why will get down with you if you buy them a drink with dirty dancing, rubbing, feeling them up, and even DFK. Prices (at least during high season) are steep though. 1 K BF and 4500/5500ST LT! But I am sure they will drop soon. Consequently I did not take the girl I really liked from there (Emi. Sorry don't know the number). But she really warmed me up for the girls I picked up at Ibar later. 555.

[QUOTE=PeeMan;1822754]I was at ibar a few nights back.... snip ...The next cutie I approached straight away said 3K gesticulating with her fingers. I was kinda taken aback because I had barely said Hello, and exchanged names. I looked at her again and then again and blinked thrice while I made up my mind about whether she meant what I thought she meant. She noticed the hesitation and changed her mind and said so. LOL! Talk about being jumped at. Because she was so well dressed I simply didn't expect such a blatant upfront quote. Too bad.[/QUOTE]Good call on your part. I never take one who talks baht right away. Bad sign right off the bat. And for 3 k? She must be crazy.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1824824]

There is also Sabai Dee and Rasputin, but I haven't tried either one.[/QUOTE]Rasputin is my favorite soapy in Pattaya. There is a rash of soapies near BigC on 2nd road. Sabai House had great talent a few years ago, while Sabai Dee across the street is also quite good. Honey I & II are good too. But the place I would willingly repeat is Rasputin. And not for the CIS girls, but for the local beauties.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1824761]
I know this list is very subjective and limited so I would like to hear from other BM's on which bars are their favorites. I thought 2015 was a pretty good year. I hope 2016 will be even better.
[/QUOTE]Great collection, matches my Top 5 in the same order, except for Mandarin. I would replace that with Windmill. I have read solid reviews about Ginza at Pattaya. The name suggest its all Sushi on the menu. Any opinions?

[QUOTE=Optional;1824763]Thanks everyone for the advice and feedback, much appreciated! This is very helpful.

Seems like Walking Street is the equivalent of BKK's Soi Cowboy or Nana. I'm more interested in places such as La Belle, The Lord, etc, (I much prefer the quiet atmosphere of an soapy to bar streets) but they don't seem to exist in Pattaya. In any case, I'll check out Rasputin and your other suggestions.

Was planning on staying at Aya Boutique Hotel, heard good things about that place, but will check out Bayview Residence too.[/QUOTE]Rasputin is very good. Selection of girls in the 3 to 4 k baht range is great, at least when I went there in November. I had selected a 4 k baht girl and the room she took me to was better than Lords.

I had visited both in the same trip and provided a comparison. You can read it up in my November FR.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1825012]Great collection, matches my Top 5 in the same order, except for Mandarin. I would replace that with Windmill. [/QUOTE]Windmill is a lot of fun and easily the dirtiest club in Pattaya I visited. However, I will never rank their girls in the top 10 clubs in terms of looks.

I agree with Natty's ranking of the Pattaya clubs except I didn't find hot girls in Happy-a-go-go. Then again I only dropped into Happy twice. What's Up and Sapphire were far and away the best 2 clubs I visited on Walking Street but there are still a handful I never made it to. Sapphire and Crazy House (Bangkok) have a similar feel to them. Lots of fun.

[QUOTE=IllusionHeart;1825013]Rasputin is very good. Selection of girls in the 3 to 4 k baht range is great, at least when I went there in November. I had selected a 4 k baht girl and the room she took me to was better than Lords.[/QUOTE]

I found the girls prettier at Sabai Dee and Honey 2 and top end girls were much cheaper than Rasputin. A couple of the 6-7k baht girls at Rasputin were hotter though. Sabai Room was almost on par with Rasputin. Honey 1 (not in the same area) was inferior imo, although my Thailand buddy likes Honey 1 the most.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1825054]Windmill is a lot of fun and easily the dirtiest club in Pattaya I visited. However, I will never rank their girls in the top 10 clubs in terms of looks.

[/QUOTE]I guess I got a bit carried away by the fun and bawdiness factor Natty mentioned. 5555.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1824718]Not sure how much research you did but Walking Street is as expensive as you can get. That is where many of the young ones (18-22 year olds) are. A night can easily get out of control and cost 2000 baht in drinks, 1000 barfine, 2000 baht dinner, 2000 baht more for drinks at Insomnia, 4000 baht LT, 1000 baht lunch the next day. 12,000 baht is not what many guys here go for.

The soapies I listed are the high end ones. Rasputin has 7000 baht Russian girls. 1 looked super hot but no chance I was paying that for 90 minutes. 2500-3000 baht is more the range for the nice ones age under 23.

As Wolvenvacht says, don't write off soi 6 just because it's 300 barfine + 1000 to the girl. Some very nice girls can be found if you walk through enough times on your trip.

Tank's list includes quite a few BKK massage places like The Lord, Nataree, Emmanuelle, etc. etc.

re. hotels check the Pattaya Hotels thread.[/QUOTE]Hello,

Sorry I must have got my list a bit mixed up.

Its going to be my first trip to Thailand in the beginning of Feb, I had complied this list while RTFF'ing and must have got things mixed up.

Thank you for pointing my mistakes out, I will update my list accordingly.

TheTank

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1824761]This is far from a comprehensive list. I don't visit that many different Go Go's per trip anymore. I tend to rely 10 or so Go Go's that have served me well in the past and then I branch out a little from there. There are three predominate elements that make or break a bar as far as I am concerned: First is the quality of the girls, second is the fun or bawdiness factor of the bar, and third is my previous track record with the girls I have barfined out of each respective Go Go. Basically I go where the quality girls are, but then all things being equal, I like a bar where the girls are nude and where a certain amount of loose personal interaction is involved, even encouraged, and where I have good times. So here are my favorite Go Go's of 2015:

[/QUOTE]In my two trips there last year the hottest girl I saw was at Peppermint. You had to go early to get her as she long termed out every day I was there last November, so I never got to go out with her. She was a star fish last May when she first arrived, but I have to assume she is more open now. I had hoped to BF her to see, but I got tired of of the pursuit. Back home how, I regret it, soooo, since I have plans to go back in April, I will go in the night before to reserve her.

Peppermint also has a few other hotties, and if you make friends with the mamasan, Luk, you will be taken care of. Takes a lot of lady drinks though.

[QUOTE=FLHawk;1825408] ... Peppermint also has a few other hotties, and if you make friends with the mamasan, Luk, you will be taken care of. Takes a lot of lady drinks though.[/QUOTE]Since when does a guy need to buy lady drinks for mamasan to be taken care of in a gogo? Just go in, get a drink and choose your girl. If you hit it off, take her out. Drinks for you and the girl is all you need.

Last night, police were out doing random checks on soi 18 (off 3rd road). Looking for what, I don't know. In any case, to lessen your chances of being pulled over, wear your helmet if you drive a bike. And keep your eyes open to scan ahead. There were at least 10 of them stopping bikes in both directions. They were pulling people over and telling them to go into a another area with a bunch of cops waiting.

[QUOTE=FLHawk;1825408]Peppermint also has a few other hotties, and if you make friends with the mamasan, Luk, you will be taken care of. Takes a lot of lady drinks though.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1826014]Since when does a guy need to buy lady drinks for mamasan to be taken care of in a gogo? Just go in, get a drink and choose your girl. If you hit it off, take her out. Drinks for you and the girl is all you need.[/QUOTE]You both have valid points here and neither is wrong its just how you like to roll. Pipelayer or FLhawk have their standard operating procedure on mongering and it works for them, Newbies take note of the difference and see what works for you.

Pipelayer is 100% correct, you do not need to buy the mamasan anything, in fact you don't even need to buy the bargirl one drink. Just point and shoot, she will go with you depending on how much she needs the money and what she thinks of you. There is no need to spend an extra baht.

However.

FLHawk buying some lady drinks is not wrong either. Most of the time (most of the time for you sharp shooters) buying the girl 1-2-3 drinks loosens her up and she relaxes with you and you most of the time will reap the benefit of a better session. As for the mamasan there is no need to ply her with drink and more drink but buying her a drink pays dividends if you are looking for something special or unique or frequent a club often. Also buying mamasan a drink when you already have the bargirl seated next to you having a lady drink also increases the girl's reputation with the mamasan and some girls appreciate this and perform better with you. Why? Mamasans make around 300-400 baht a night before tips / lady drinks and that's it! Contrast that with a bar girl who makes 300 baht a night plus trips / lady drinks AND half her bar fine and all her ST / LT fee. Some mamasans put pressure on the girls to ask the customers for a drink for mamasan (yes, this can be annoying) but if paying $6 for mamasan's drink gets me a better chance of a good performance, I usually buy the drink.

Bottom line buying the ladies and mamasans drinks is totally optional. Buying a couple drinks will increase your chances of a better session but by no means guarantee it.

Second take home point here. Guys ALL the time are asking me in Medellin, Bogota, AC, or wherever how are you getting such GFE?? Its simple be a BFE. Treat the girls like a prostitute and your chances that the session will be like fucking a prostitute are higher. Treat the girl like she is your GF, ie buy her a couple drinks in the bar before you BF her, stop off and get something to eat on way back to hotel, perhaps go play pool or listen to music for an hour and then back to hotel room and again your chances of a better session increase (no guarantees in this life) Anecdotal evidence, for awhile now 80% of the posts about AC are guys crying about how girls never stay LT in AC anymore. For those that have never gone to PI before its different than Thailand. There is no pay bar fine and then negotiate with girl ST / LT amount there is just pay bar fine and girls stays with you all night. But Filipinos have been more and more trying to run out after the first session and not staying all night (grandma is sick, my baby is sick, etc etc). Guys are saying AC is dead, stay away etc etc. Its not dead, yes things are changing a bit. But this last October in 9 nights I had 8 all nighters why? Not because I'm good looking or a super stud at all its because I take them out for something to eat (sometimes here in Pattaya that is just 60 baht for street meat but its the thought) buy a few drinks, play pool, dance, etc.

Just my 2 baht.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1826014]Since when does a guy need to buy lady drinks for mamasan to be taken care of in a gogo? Just go in, get a drink and choose your girl. If you hit it off, take her out. Drinks for you and the girl is all you need.[/QUOTE]You don't, but making friends with the mamasan can get you extras. It may not be worth the cost. That would be for you to decide. In my Pattaya report from last May I discuss this a little. I have been negligent in completing my trip report from last November, but I will be posting the last three days of my five day trip soon, and I will discuss this there as well.

But briefly, the mamasan can get you girls that you might not otherwise be able to get, and if the girl knows the mamasan likes you, she will not attempt to cheat you or treat you badly. It doesn't mean you will get a GFE by any means, but if you pay for LT and expect the girl to stay with you until 10 AM and not bug out at 5 AM, and the mamasan has told her to stay until 10 AM, you can be sure she will stay.

[QUOTE=FLHawk;1826166]You don't, but making friends with the mamasan can get you extras. [/QUOTE]Your also digging your own grave so to speak. They come to expect it on every visit. They'll then ask you to buy so and so waitress a drink, her friend will join the group and before you know it, every time you step in that bar your expected to fork out 1000 baht on drinks. Saw this happen to my buddy, he came in to set up a prebooking with a gogo girl whom he already had a contact number and before he walked out after his one beer he had a 2000 baht bar bill. I'm not saying its not working for you, just keep the amount of people asking to add to your tab to a minimum. The waitress and her friends can't possibly do anything for you except bring you a beer quicker than normal.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1826014]Since when does a guy need to buy lady drinks for mamasan to be taken care of in a gogo?[/QUOTE]But I had some really great fun interacting with the mamasans and staff! I wrote about it here: [POST]1811124[/POST]To make a long story short, you don't have to buy a mamasan a damn thing. But, I found that the overall fun I had during my trip was enhanced by my interactions with the Thai people apart from just the sex. Although, I do recall that when I was with my girl "Beeah" from Sahara in Bangkok, I told her while I was fucking her, "And I want you to go back and tell mamasan I got a big dick too!" Hahahaha! Yeah, I'm a fool LOL!

I've been in Pattaya for a couple days now, and will be writing a more detailed FR soon. This is a fascinating, wonderful place, and so very different from Bangkok. I have already visited many soapies (Rasputin, Honey I, Honey II, Sabai Room, Sabai Dee), along with Soi 6 and various places on Walking Street. I'm amazed by what's on offer so out in the open. Even more than in Bangkok!

But one thing I simply cannot find is real Viagra. Every pharmacy I've checked (and I've checked over half a dozen now!) only stocks fake Viagra. You can tell it's fake because the packaging is slightly different, and the pills are rougher looking, and darker in color. I can't seem to find a single store that sells the real stuff. Anyone happen to know a pharmacy I could try?

Thanks so much!

[QUOTE=Optional;1826320]But one thing I simply cannot find is real Viagra. Every pharmacy I've checked (and I've checked over half a dozen now!) only stocks fake Viagra. You can tell it's fake because the packaging is slightly different, and the pills are rougher looking, and darker in color. I can't seem to find a single store that sells the real stuff. Anyone happen to know a pharmacy I could try?

Thanks so much![/QUOTE]Just go to a pharmacy and ask for Sidegra, which is the Thai generic form of Viagra. Same as Viagra but much cheaper and not fake.

[QUOTE=Optional;1826320]I've been in Pattaya for a couple days now, and will be writing a more detailed FR soon. This is a fascinating, wonderful place, and so very different from Bangkok. I have already visited many soapies (Rasputin, Honey I, Honey II, Sabai Room, Sabai Dee), along with Soi 6 and various places on Walking Street. I'm amazed by what's on offer so out in the open. Even more than in Bangkok!

But one thing I simply cannot find is real Viagra. Every pharmacy I've checked (and I've checked over half a dozen now!) only stocks fake Viagra. You can tell it's fake because the packaging is slightly different, and the pills are rougher looking, and darker in color. I can't seem to find a single store that sells the real stuff. Anyone happen to know a pharmacy I could try?

Thanks so much![/QUOTE]Last month I went into a random big pharmacy in soi Dianna and asked for a box of Sidegra, which is the official and state controlled Thai variant, available after the Viagra license expired in Thailand, contrary to eg the UK, where Pfizer is still able to extend the license by lawsuits.

I paid, I believe, 300 bht for a box of 4 x 100 MG, you can probably get it at slight better prices if you negotiate or buy bigger quantities.

I've never tried any vitamin V yet, just wanted to have it ready for contingencies.

The expiry date is 2018, so I still have lot's of time for getting into the right situation for contingencies 55.

I went to some go-go bars to warm up before moving to Insomnia. The key is to be there at the right time with the right mount of alcohol in your blood stream. If you're too enibriated you cannot perform, if you're too sober you cannot eye-contact the girls. If you're too early the vibe is dead, if you're too late the good ones are gone. My equation is: if you're on your third beer of the night at the I-bar at 2 am then you're on. May need to adjust for body weight.

Anyway, I made a few rounds and was sort of on my way out when I walked past this girl and eye-contacted her. This basically means I looked her up and down and undressed her with my x-ray vision. She wasn't overly responsive, but she wasn't dismissive either. So I plowed on. Opened the conversation, made some chit-chat, a bit of kino (that means sexually charged touching), and then I thought it was on. I really liked her face and her smile. Her body looked pretty hot in a tight dress, but only go-go dancers bare enough for you to check the real merchandise before renting it.

We ejected really quickly. Her friends gave her the A-OK. 1500 Baht was the agreed number for short time. I took her to Oasis motel.

I took my time showering. Then we snuggled under the real bed linens. I made the joke that we were going to sleep but of course nothing of the sort happened. Just to say it was very comfortable and felt like a real pickup. There was excellent chemistry. She was really into it. I had no problem maintaining an erection in spite of the absence of pharmaceutical help and the amount of alcohol ingested. She was a real goer in the sack. I think with these girls, if you pretend it's a completely normal interaction, they just GFE you, and they forget about the 1500 Baht until after the deed is done. Then, of course, they magically remember.

Anyway, I wanted some variety, so I came on her tits. I just loved seeing her in the ceiling mirror in such an unrushed way. I could have banged her all night.

Would I repeat? The Ibar yes, the key is to get the timing just right, because then it is impossible to not get laid. The girl was good, but new girls always win. Would I recommend? Yes, just make sure you get warmed up at a go-go before, otherwise it can be pretty dreary or forbidding out there, especially if you don't have a wing man.

I had been to BKK nana plaza as well as Soi Cowboy gogos, everything was ok, but just gulping down drinks after drinks fills the bladder pretty fast. I was not able to find a toilet nearby. I had to walk a mile to a shopping mall to releive myself. Where are the toilets located in these gogo bar areas? I am planning a trip to Pattaya shortly. So was just curious to know Sorry if it again sounds stupid, but it is a basic requirement. Do these bars have a toilet inside every bar for public use?

Hows the experience at Galaxy Club. Have heard that it is different from the routine gogos. There they have European girls and erotic on stage shows, which is not found anywhere else. Althouth the rates are bit on higher side. They also provide private shows.

Any experience from xpats?

Thanks,

The Russian clubs on Walking Street were busted 3 weeks ago so not sure if the girls have been deported. I equate them to a ping pong show in Patpong.

The gogo bars on Walking Street have toilets and so do the ones I went to in Soi Cowboy. Which clubs did you go to with no toilets?

[QUOTE=Raju1974;1826674]Do these bars have a toilet inside every bar for public use?[/QUOTE]Yes, I think so. Why didn't you ask one of the waitresses?

And in the unlikely case there is no toilet, outside NEP there are so many open bars where you can just walk in, go to the toilet and walk out again even without ordering a drink.

[QUOTE=Raju1974;1826674]Do these bars have a toilet inside every bar for public use?[/QUOTE]I actually did some Toilet Research on my recent visit, and I can assure you most gogos do have toilets on premises, with the exception of Heaven Above, in which case you need to exit the bar and turn right.

By the way, Heaven Above had extremely high drink pressure, so you might want to give it a miss, not a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url].

Can you believe the bar fine at Taboo on Walking st is 3.000 B? ST.

There's a toilet inside almost every gogo bar on Soi Cowboy. I've never had a problem with this at all! And every gogo bar I've been to on my Pattaya trip has a toilet too.

[QUOTE=Raju1974;1826674]I had been to BKK nana plaza as well as Soi Cowboy gogos, everything was ok, but just gulping down drinks after drinks fills the bladder pretty fast. I was not able to find a toilet nearby. I had to walk a mile to a shopping mall to releive myself. Where are the toilets located in these gogo bar areas? I am planning a trip to Pattaya shortly. So was just curious to know Sorry if it again sounds stupid, but it is a basic requirement. Do these bars have a toilet inside every bar for public use?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Raju1974;1826674]I had been to BKK nana plaza as well as Soi Cowboy gogos, everything was ok, but just gulping down drinks after drinks fills the bladder pretty fast. I was not able to find a toilet nearby. I had to walk a mile to a shopping mall to releive myself. Where are the toilets located in these gogo bar areas? I am planning a trip to Pattaya shortly. So was just curious to know Sorry if it again sounds stupid, but it is a basic requirement. Do these bars have a toilet inside every bar for public use?[/QUOTE]I do some of my best work, in the toilets of Go Go's especially the larger one's with the spray hose. After I'm done. The attendant squeezes the soap for me, turn on the water and provide me with a hot hand towel. I have no problem giving this guy a 100 baht tip, to be honest I feel short changing him after he see what I did to his toilet?

[QUOTE=EricSwiss;1826659]
Anyway, I made a few rounds and was sort of on my way out when I walked past this girl and eye-contacted her. This basically means I looked her up and down and undressed her with my x-ray vision. She wasn't overly responsive, but she wasn't dismissive either. So I plowed on. Opened the conversation, made some chit-chat, a bit of kino (that means sexually charged touching), and then I thought it was on. I really liked her face and her smile. Her body looked pretty hot in a tight dress, but only go-go dancers bare enough for you to check the real merchandise before renting it.
[/QUOTE]If so Kudos: I know she is picky.

I know her and her friends pretty well. One of her friends used to be my regular. We broke up but are on still pretty good terms. A fun group and they are at Ibar every night. I usually stop by and hang with them for a little bit when I am in town. They know the owners and get treated like royalty. 555.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1826691]The Russian clubs on Walking Street were busted 3 weeks ago so not sure if the girls have been deported.[/QUOTE]The news report I read said Crazy Russian Girls was busted. None of the others were mentioned, and I've seen no other news stating all the Ruskie clubs were busted. I cannot recommend Moulin Rouge. High pressure girls who deliver little of anything. Except repeated requests for tips! Crazy Russian Girls and Galaxy were the best ones in Pattaya while I was there.

You may be bang on that it's only 1 club, Cane. I was only mentioning what I read in Pattaya News that the Russian club (s) were busted because girls did not have the proper papers to work there.

[QUOTE=Raju1974;1826674]I had been to BKK nana plaza as well as Soi Cowboy gogos, everything was ok, but just gulping down drinks after drinks fills the bladder pretty fast. I was not able to find a toilet nearby. I had to walk a mile to a shopping mall to releive myself. Where are the toilets located in these gogo bar areas? I am planning a trip to Pattaya shortly. So was just curious to know Sorry if it again sounds stupid, but it is a basic requirement. Do these bars have a toilet inside every bar for public use?[/QUOTE]Not all bars allow public use of the toilet. Only for Customers and staff.

Actually I think the OP is on to something here.

One benefit of starting your gogo visit in the toilet is that you get to scout the gogo for best seats on the way to the CR, giving you a chance to ponder the most strategic seating while you P, and then exit a freshly relieved man who confidently grabs the seat with the best pussy view. Another plus: since you do not yet have any drink at your table, noone can put anything extra in it.

[QUOTE=PuteNut;1827031]They will probably not kill you for a free P, not even rough you up. I often start a gogo visit at the loo, heading straight for it after I have entered. Never a problem.[/QUOTE]I was at the one Russian club in Pattaya located right off of Walking Street (don't remember the name). Some guys came in and headed straight for the loo, but the staff stopped them and shown a flashlight on a sign that said the toilet was for paying customers only. In other words, they each needed to buy a drink before relieving themselves. So, there's an example of one Pattaya establishment that makes sure there's no walking in, using their facilities, and then walking out after deciding not to stay without buying a drink. That must have happened enough times that they decided to actively put a stop to it.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1826832]If so Kudos: I know she is picky.

I know her and her friends pretty well. One of her friends used to be my regular. We broke up but are on still pretty good terms. A fun group and they are at Ibar every night. I usually stop by and hang with them for a little bit when I am in town. They know the owners and get treated like royalty. 555.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately not! Mine had darker Isaan skin, not dyed hair (natural black color) and no fake tits. Yours does look hot and picky.

Well, I am wrapping up my Pattaya trip now, and I have to say it was great. I'm surprised that I've never checked out this city before, even though I've lived in Bangkok for a couple years now.

I'm a terrible writer, so I'll save you the trouble of reading a long FR from me. Instead, here are some quick bullet points. Nothing particularly new for Pattaya veterans, but maybe will help people coming here for the first time:

- I thought I had seen some real debauchery in Bangkok, but boy was I wrong. The things I saw at The Windmill on Walking Street were far crazier than anything at, say, Crazy House on Soi Cowboy. I highly recommend The Windmill to anyone wishing to see completely naked girls, spread-eagled, being eaten out by perverted old white guys while they finger another girl in the ass. The girls aren't the prettiest, but I'd say the Windmill is a must-see for anyone coming to visit. I didn't find anything else at this level of debauchery on Walking Street.

- I found that the prettiest girls were at Sensations on Walking Street. The girls there are gorgeous. However, the most *fun* place I went to was What's Up Bar, by far. That's where three girls gave me a handjob (over my pants, sadly) at the same time. They wouldn't let go! A good sneaky trick to make a guy buy you drink after drink, cause my other head wasn't thinking anymore. I also saw three girls eating each other out onstage, while dressed in Egyptian costumes. Won't forget that one for the rest of my life.

- I barfined a girl from Baccara, who took me to a bunch of clubs on Walking Street. Insomnia, Ice Bar, and a couple others I forget. Maybe it was too early (it was midnight), but most of these places were surprisingly empty on a Saturday.

- I spent a good deal of time on Soi 6 as well. I get why many of you guys prefer this to Walking Street. Soi 6 feels much more real, no tourists. Whereas Walking Street felt like Soi Cowboy multiplied ten times, Soi 6 was much more low-key. A good place to get drinks with friends away from the loud incessant music blasting everywhere on WS. But the quality of the girls on Soi 6 was considerably lower. I can see how. If you really took your time. You could find some great diamonds-in-the-rough on Soi 6, but I got impatient. This overall area had more of a Nana-esque shadiness to it. Not a bad thing at all, just an observation.

- I spent an afternoon hopping from soapy to soapy. Went to Honey I, Honey II, Sabai Room, Sabai Dee, and Rasputin. Of all these, Rasputin definitely had the best selection, and the most girls. I would suggest skipping the other ones completely. But maybe it's because I went too early. I started at Sabai Room around 4 pm. By the time I ended up at Rasputin, it was 7 pm, so there were tons of girls. Probably at least 50. The rooms at Rasputin are very nice and clean.

- That said, the best soapy girl I picked up on this trip was at Honey I (which I returned to another day in the evening, and found a better selection). She said she actually lived in Bangkok and had a normal job, but came to work in Pattaya on weekends for the money. She didn't want to work at a soapy in Bangkok in case she ran into her friends. There is something refreshing about being with someone who only does this part-time. I think that's why I like Nataree in Bangkok too. Many of the girls I pick up at Nataree similarly are students or have real jobs. Maybe it gives it more of a GFE feel, I don't know. In any case, I got the Honey I girls' number, and I'll definitely be hitting her up back in Bangkok. She left Pattaya today, and coincidentally, lives quite near me in BKK.

All in all, the vibe in Pattaya is definitely different than Bangkok. Girlie bars are everywhere. Not just restricted to three areas, like in Bangkok. It's prevalent everywhere you go, it's part of Pattaya's very fabric. It's a fantastic place to spend around 3 days, though it almost becomes too much of a good thing. By the end of my 5-day trip, I felt almost desensitized to all the tits and ass I was seeing everywhere! I can't believe I am even saying that, but it's true. Looking forward to coming back again soon, though next time I might plan a slightly shorter trip.

[QUOTE=Optional;1827125]Well, I am wrapping up my Pattaya trip now, and I have to say it was great. I'm surprised that I've never checked out this city before, even though I've lived in Bangkok for a couple years now.

I'm a terrible writer, so I'll save you the trouble of reading a long FR from me. Instead, here are some quick bullet points. Nothing particularly new for Pattaya veterans, but maybe will help people coming here for the first time:

[/QUOTE]Great summary! You are not a bad writer at all. I'm happy you enjoyed your trip! And it looks like you may have even hooked up with a new regular. God I envy you SOBs that live in Thailand!

Enjoy my friend, and stay horny!

Uncle-V.

[QUOTE=TheCane;1827035]I was at the one Russian club in Pattaya located right off of Walking Street (don't remember the name). Some guys came in and headed straight for the loo, but the staff stopped them and shown a flashlight on a sign that said the toilet was for paying customers only. In other words, they each needed to buy a drink before relieving themselves. So, there's an example of one Pattaya establishment that makes sure there's no walking in, using their facilities, and then walking out after deciding not to stay without buying a drink. That must have happened enough times that they decided to actively put a stop to it.[/QUOTE]Yes the russian clubs are probably not top choices for a free P.

Very nicely narrated. Will help newbies for sure. Thanks for the report.

I also felt the same thing after 4 days in BKK trip -"desensitized to all ass and tits roaming around".

This happens after a few days if you have overworked, definitely.

Anyway this time I am planning a 6 day trip to Pattaya and planning to go little slow so that I can njoy till the last day and it doesnot end up being only too mechanical.

[QUOTE=Optional;1827125]Well, I am wrapping up my Pattaya trip now, and I have to say it was great. I'm surprised that I've never checked out this city before, even though I've lived in Bangkok for a couple years now.

I'm a terrible writer, so I'll save you the trouble of reading a long FR from me. Instead, here are some quick bullet points. Nothing particularly new for Pattaya veterans, but maybe will help people coming here for the first time:

- I thought I had seen some real debauchery in Bangkok, but boy was I wrong. The things I saw at The Windmill on Walking Street were far crazier than anything at, say, Crazy House on Soi Cowboy. I highly recommend The Windmill to anyone wishing to see completely naked girls, spread-eagled, being eaten out by perverted old white guys while they finger another girl in the ass. The girls aren't the prettiest, but I'd say the Windmill is a must-see for anyone coming to visit. I didn't find anything else at this level of debauchery on Walking Street.

- I found that the prettiest girls were at Sensations on Walking Street. The girls there are gorgeous. However, the most *fun* place I went to was What's Up Bar, by far. That's where three girls gave me a handjob (over my pants, sadly) at the same time. They wouldn't let go! A good sneaky trick to make a guy buy you drink after drink, cause my other head wasn't thinking anymore. I also saw three girls eating each other out onstage, while dressed in Egyptian costumes. Won't forget that one for the rest of my life.

- I barfined a girl from Baccara, who took me to a bunch of clubs on Walking Street. Insomnia, Ice Bar, and a couple others I forget. Maybe it was too early (it was midnight), but most of these places were surprisingly empty on a Saturday.

- I spent a good deal of time on Soi 6 as well. I get why many of you guys prefer this to Walking Street. Soi 6 feels much more real, no tourists. Whereas Walking Street felt like Soi Cowboy multiplied ten times, Soi 6 was much more low-key. A good place to get drinks with friends away from the loud incessant music blasting everywhere on WS. But the quality of the girls on Soi 6 was considerably lower. I can see how. If you really took your time. You could find some great diamonds-in-the-rough on Soi 6, but I got impatient. This overall area had more of a Nana-esque shadiness to it. Not a bad thing at all, just an observation.

- I spent an afternoon hopping from soapy to soapy. Went to Honey I, Honey II, Sabai Room, Sabai Dee, and Rasputin. Of all these, Rasputin definitely had the best selection, and the most girls. I would suggest skipping the other ones completely. But maybe it's because I went too early. I started at Sabai Room around 4 pm. By the time I ended up at Rasputin, it was 7 pm, so there were tons of girls. Probably at least 50. The rooms at Rasputin are very nice and clean.

- That said, the best soapy girl I picked up on this trip was at Honey I (which I returned to another day in the evening, and found a better selection). She said she actually lived in Bangkok and had a normal job, but came to work in Pattaya on weekends for the money. She didn't want to work at a soapy in Bangkok in case she ran into her friends. There is something refreshing about being with someone who only does this part-time. I think that's why I like Nataree in Bangkok too. Many of the girls I pick up at Nataree similarly are students or have real jobs. Maybe it gives it more of a GFE feel, I don't know. In any case, I got the Honey I girls' number, and I'll definitely be hitting her up back in Bangkok. She left Pattaya today, and coincidentally, lives quite near me in BKK.

All in all, the vibe in Pattaya is definitely different than Bangkok. Girlie bars are everywhere. Not just restricted to three areas, like in Bangkok. It's prevalent everywhere you go, it's part of Pattaya's very fabric. It's a fantastic place to spend around 3 days, though it almost becomes too much of a good thing. By the end of my 5-day trip, I felt almost desensitized to all the tits and ass I was seeing everywhere! I can't believe I am even saying that, but it's true. Looking forward to coming back again soon, though next time I might plan a slightly shorter trip.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for your report, Optional. I found the soapies had the best lineups closer to 7 pm than 4-5 pm. This may explain why you found Rasputin to be the best if you went to it last. To me a good combo was soi 6 at 5-6 pm, then walk over to the soapies at 7 pm.

Haha, thanks! When I'm on my deathbed and my entire life flashes before my eyes like a Greatest Hits compilation, I hope that image of those three girls eating each other out at What's Up Bar is included in my slideshow.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1827136]Great summary! You are not a bad writer at all. I'm happy you enjoyed your trip! And it looks like you may have even hooked up with a new regular. God I envy you SOBs that live in Thailand!

Enjoy my friend, and stay horny!

Uncle-V.[/QUOTE]

Hello everyone,

I was alone a few days and thus spent a good portion of my hours watching Big Bash League down under at a good bar near LK metro. Followed it up with a visit to Soi 6 almost as a routine.

The strangest thing I noticed in this trip were the local marketplace along beach road heading into WS was not there, it was quite a bummer. On the other hand, I picked up a few Freelancers whereas started my trip vowing I wouldn't. I met a couple cutes along BR and invested time, asking where they work and so on, a few walked over from beer bars by Central Festival since they hadn't been barfined.

LK metro was a life saver, most of the girls in the GG bars wanted business, being less popular. Action Street was amazing as well, I was advised by a few skeptic locals to avoid WS on some nights but I come to Pattaya once a year, I can't afford to take it easy. Angel Witch was by far the best GG / Show bar in town, as it has been, Baccara and a few others have dropped their production and routines as far as special performances go.

During my daily visits to Soi 6, I spent a lot of time surveying girls, did not mind taking a few extra strolls up and down to find a good looker. I did not find NYE to be a season where good girls go home for family time in the past, but it was definitely harder to find good lookers. WS gogos had great variety of girls and coyotes, Happy A GG and Airline were packed with mongers but they had a machine of girls, kept the tempo going and I was impressed at how they have kept their quality up.

Price wise. Soi 6 BF + room + girl always gave me a damage of 1300 bht, Never asked for LT from them. LK Metro BF was 500-1000 and Girls asked 2 k-2.5 k. I felt even the newer inexperienced girls hired at Bars in WS had a heavy price tag, BF 1 k-1.5 k + 2.5 k-4.5 k for the girls. I took a few nights where I just bought girls drinks and tipped them well. The attention you get from a couple of girls sharing Lady Drinks is just phenomenal. Simon Bar is usually my favorite avenue to score a girl late at night, but there was a serious lack of talent, I mean defcon serious.

This was my first trip without going into Insomnia or Mixx or Lucifer etc, I am quite proud since I got laid more times than days thanks to Soi 6. I overheard a couple people my aged mid 20's at my BBL sports bar having lunch beside me and sharing how they have bought tables for 5-10 k with a bottle, granted it is a universal way to spend NYE but I can't stand it.

I still couldn't muster up enough courage to approach a black girl, still haven't taken it off my list. If local GGs were not faring as well as they have in the past, I couldn't think the Russian money-grabbers would fare too well either and they had employed more people to lead guests in their bars. A lot of the side streets have places close up shop behind Walking Street, Best friends Bar complex along BR used to be a popular hangout for my buddies and I, they had very little talent.

Had a hotel next to Tukom for my stay, total damage of trip with food drinks and girls $1800. I understand prices have risen since a lot of senior mongers days, but Pattaya is heaven.

Jay

[QUOTE=JeanSean;1826422]Box of Sidegra, which is the official and state controlled Thai variant, available after the Viagra license expired... I paid, I believe, 300 bht for a box of 4 x 100 MG, you can probably get it at slight better prices if you negotiate or buy bigger quantities.
[/QUOTE]For reference, the retail price of Sidegra is 180 baht for 4 x100 MG pills or 100 baht for 4 x50 MG pills. This was consistent in several pharmacies in Bangkok outside nightlife areas, for a single box. Anything more is markup. No haggling or large purchase needed.

[QUOTE=Eurojay;1827290]I overheard a couple people my aged mid 20's at my BBL sports bar having lunch beside me and sharing how they have bought tables for 5-10 k with a bottle, granted it is a universal way to spend NYE but I can't stand it.[/QUOTE]Me and my girl had a table at a drink truck on Beach Road. From 11 pm to 1 am we had 2 drinks each and I think it cost her less than 500 baht. Plus we got to see all the fireworks.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1827818]For reference, the retail price of Sidegra is 180 baht for 4 x100 MG pills or 100 baht for 4 x50 MG pills. This was consistent in several pharmacies in Bangkok outside nightlife areas, for a single box. Anything more is markup. No haggling or large purchase needed.[/QUOTE]I occasionally get Levitra 20 MG here in the states and the bottle says to split the pill. So, if it says to split the pill at 20 MG just how strong are these 50 and 100 MG Sidegra pills? Is the strength of the pills less than the states even though the MG is higher? Just wondering in case I want to try finding some while I am there.

What are the so called "Beach parties" held at Pattaya.

Can some expat throw some light? Are these parties fun to attend?

Costs involved. I have heard they are arranged on Full moon called the Full Moon party??

[QUOTE=Raju1974;1828152]What are the so called "Beach parties" held at Pattaya.

Can some expat throw some light? Are these parties fun to attend?

Costs involved. I have heard they are arranged on Full moon called the Full Moon party??[/QUOTE]You are in the wrong city. You want Koh Samui and Koh Phangan for that.

[QUOTE=Wanderer9577;1827902]I occasionally get Levitra 20 MG here in the states and the bottle says to split the pill. So, if it says to split the pill at 20 MG just how strong are these 50 and 100 MG Sidegra pills? Is the strength of the pills less than the states even though the MG is higher? Just wondering in case I want to try finding some while I am there.[/QUOTE]The active ingredient Viagra, Kamagra, Sidegra and such is Sildenafil Citrate. Yes, you can split the pill, for me 25 MG (half of 50 MG Sidegra pill) is sufficient. Has strong effects for 4 h, bit weaker afterwards. 100 MG pills a are a bit too strong, and it's difficult to split them in four. Of course, YMMV, but I think a full 100 MG is meant to turn an 80 year old into Rocco Siffredi. Do note that the pill does not make you more horny (no libido effects), just harder for longer. Sufficient stimulus is still needed to get going.

In Levitra or Cialis, active ingredient is different, so dosage is not directly comparable, and effects are subtly different as well.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1827818]For reference, the retail price of Sidegra is 180 baht for 4 x100 MG pills or 100 baht for 4 x50 MG pills. This was consistent in several pharmacies in Bangkok outside nightlife areas, for a single box. Anything more is markup. No haggling or large purchase needed.[/QUOTE]Honestly, I can't remember if I paid 200 or 300 baht.

My point was, I went into a random big pharmacy and the didn't ask for any prescription just smiled and handed it over. Maybe they smiled because it was slightly over priced. A win / win situation.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1828292]The active ingredient Viagra, Kamagra, Sidegra and such is Sildenafil Citrate. Yes, you can split the pill, for me 25 MG (half of 50 MG Sidegra pill) is sufficient. Has strong effects for 4 h, bit weaker afterwards. 100 MG pills a are a bit too strong, and it's difficult to split them in four. Of course, YMMV, but I think a full 100 MG is meant to turn an 80 year old into Rocco Siffredi. Do note that the pill does not make you more horny (no libido effects), just harder for longer. Sufficient stimulus is still needed to get going.

In Levitra or Cialis, active ingredient is different, so dosage is not directly comparable, and effects are subtly different as well.[/QUOTE]Thanks, after seeing how high the milligrams were compared to what I see here had me wondering how I could safely take one if I needed to. Planning to stock up before I come over just in case. While I don't always need one, I also don't want to miss out on any possibilities just because I was too tired from earlier activities.

Anyone here going for the Maya Music Festival in Feb?

We're looking for some veterans here that can help us out. It's our first trip to Pattaya and we're looking for some pretty girls (Both local and foreign) to join us.

Any recommendation of where we should look at once we're there?

Thanks in advance boys!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1827830]Me and my girl had a table at a drink truck on Beach Road. From 11 pm to 1 am we had 2 drinks each and I think it cost her less than 500 baht. Plus we got to see all the fireworks.[/QUOTE]Thought that was you? Having drinks served by the cut out restored Volkswagen Bus? Lots of romancing going on. Did you hear me above yelling " Get a room "?

[QUOTE=Wanderer9577;1827902]I occasionally get Levitra 20 MG here in the states and the bottle says to split the pill. So, if it says to split the pill at 20 MG just how strong are these 50 and 100 MG Sidegra pills? Is the strength of the pills less than the states even though the MG is higher? Just wondering in case I want to try finding some while I am there.[/QUOTE]Those are totally different drugs. So they have different MG quantities. Use google and do some basic research.

Croc expat gave great advice.

You can buy a pill cutter (or a knife) to cut the pills when necessary.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1828292]The active ingredient Viagra, Kamagra, Sidegra and such is Sildenafil Citrate. Yes, you can split the pill, for me 25 MG (half of 50 MG Sidegra pill) is sufficient. Has strong effects for 4 h, bit weaker afterwards. 100 MG pills a are a bit too strong, and it's difficult to split them in four. Of course, YMMV, but I think a full 100 MG is meant to turn an 80 year old into Rocco Siffredi. Do note that the pill does not make you more horny (no libido effects), just harder for longer. Sufficient stimulus is still needed to get going.

In Levitra or Cialis, active ingredient is different, so dosage is not directly comparable, and effects are subtly different as well.[/QUOTE]Do we have some pill or syrup which can make the lady horny, it would be great fun to be with a hot and horny WG in the club or maybe back at your hotel room, you want sleep but she wants a dick all the while so maybe she can get off herself or it will be fun for a threesome with one lady on the pill. Somebody wrote about some medicine as yaa dong, any clue what is that and where it can be found or some other crazy thing for your WG.

Would love to know more about it.

Adios

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1828292]The active ingredient Viagra, Kamagra, Sidegra and such is Sildenafil Citrate. Yes, you can split the pill, for me 25 MG (half of 50 MG Sidegra pill) is sufficient. Has strong effects for 4 h, bit weaker afterwards. 100 MG pills a are a bit too strong, and it's difficult to split them in four. Of course, YMMV, but I think a full 100 MG is meant to turn an 80 year old into Rocco Siffredi. Do note that the pill does not make you more horny (no libido effects), just harder for longer. Sufficient stimulus is still needed to get going.

In Levitra or Cialis, active ingredient is different, so dosage is not directly comparable, and effects are subtly different as well.[/QUOTE]Bro. Just my 2 cents. Levitra (verdenafil) is usually administered in lower dosage forms, max 20 MG as compared to 100 MG of Viagra. Reports says both have similar effects, levitra is claimed to be somewhat faster in action than Viagra. But, for Cialis, it lasts longer than other two. Haven't tried any of these, but read few reports about them. May be a person who has used all three can provide accurate results. But apart from these, there is another set of combination drugs, like combo of sildenafil and dapoxetine, which is known to work best for mongers.

Hello guys,

I am a complete newbie to "mongering" (I guess it means sex tourism) and I am trying to obtain all the possible information before going somewhere. You guys on these forums are a real help and I have been reading forums and trying to obtain any kind of information as much as I can, but I have finally decided to post my first message and ask you guys for some detailed help. I have chosen Thailand to be my first destination, as far as I understand there are really only 2 cities worth exploring (unless I have missed something) - Bangkok and Pattaya, very confused on which is better for some very sexy week. Could anyone here give a detailed guide for a total newbie on where, when to go and how do you proceeded with everything, literally what is the best option after you have check in into the hotel, where can you go, when can you go and how exactly do you proceed after you have spotted the girl you like till banging her in your hotel room.

Thank you guys in advance.

[QUOTE=TutLi;1828623] May be a person who has used all three can provide accurate results. [/QUOTE]Buddy of mine is severely overweight and diabetic, he's tried both cialis and levitra with less than spectacular results, has yet to try viagra. If your in bad physical shape, a pill only does so much.

[QUOTE=Alex7J;1828577]Do we have some pill or syrup which can make the lady horny[/QUOTE]Yes, illegal unfortunately.

Bremelanotide: Regular use has numerous unfortunate side effects, and the one that Filipinas would object to most violently is that it turns people dark brown or black. It is a tanning agent. Only works by injection, and who wants to inject stuff?

GHB Gamma-Hydroxybutyric acid. Far more popular for this purpose. Widely used by both men and women for exactly this purpose. Consumed orally. Tastes good in tomato juice. Do not take with alcohol. Unfortunately the dose that makes people keen on sex is rather close to the dose that makes people sleepy, and the dose that makes people sleepy is rather close to the dose that makes them unconscious (unrousable sleep, often followed by prolonged stupidity) and the dose that makes them unconscious is rather close to the dose that kills them.

There is a problem getting the dose right with GHB, and alcohol makes it trickier to get the dose right.

If you fall unrousably asleep on GHB, you are taking a dangerously large dose which is likely to cause harmful side effects. Use in moderation. If someone falls asleep in the middle of enthusiastic sex, they are probably taking a harmfully large dose. Natural (rousable) sleep is OK, but if you fall naturally asleep, no sex. The ideal dose should make someone horny without making them too sleepy.

Some people were recently arrested for selling GHB in the Philippines, and got really long sentences.

[QUOTE=WolfieXXX;1828664]Hello guys,

I am a complete newbie to "mongering" (I guess it means sex tourism) and I am trying to obtain all the possible information before going somewhere. You guys on these forums are a real help and I have been reading forums and trying to obtain any kind of information as much as I can, but I have finally decided to post my first message and ask you guys for some detailed help. I have chosen Thailand to be my first destination, as far as I understand there are really only 2 cities worth exploring (unless I have missed something) - Bangkok and Pattaya, very confused on which is better for some very sexy week. Could anyone here give a detailed guide for a total newbie on where, when to go and how do you proceeded with everything, literally what is the best option after you have check in into the hotel, where can you go, when can you go and how exactly do you proceed after you have spotted the girl you like till banging her in your hotel room.

Thank you guys in advance.[/QUOTE]In Thailand there are gogos, girly bars, discos, and streetwalkers. In a gogo the girls dance for your entertainment. They tend to be prettier, but more hard boiled, and less willing to go long time. I prefer girly bars.

In a girly bar or gogo you tell the waitress you want to buy a girl a lady drink. This buys you a little time with that girl. Just time, not sex. If you like her you then negotiate with the girl. You pay the bar a small bar fine, take the girl to your room, and after sex (short time) pay or in the morning (long time) pay the agreed amount, plus a tip.

In the disco you have to actually walk up to the girl yourself and offer to buy her a drink, which some people find stressful and difficult. They will not necessarily make eye contact, sometimes you have to touch them on the hand to demand their attention before offering to buy a drink. Then proceed as in the girly bar or disco, except that you have more time per drink and are expected to take more time per drink. There is no bar fine in the disco, you just take the girl or the girls back to your room.

Streetwalkers will aggressively make eye contact, and expect to be made an offer immediately, or will make an offer immediately. If you hang around thinking about it, they get irritated, while the girls in the bars, discos, and gogos expect you to take your time. Lot of streetwalkers are in fact ladyboys. Watch out for the big heads, big jaws, and strong wrists. There are also ladyboy bars, but if you are in a girly bar, you can safely expect all girls.

[QUOTE=WolfieXXX;1828664]Hello guys,

I am a complete newbie to "mongering" (I guess it means sex tourism) and I am trying to obtain all the possible information before going somewhere. You guys on these forums are a real help and I have been reading forums and trying to obtain any kind of information as much as I can, but I have finally decided to post my first message and ask you guys for some detailed help. I have chosen Thailand to be my first destination, as far as I understand there are really only 2 cities worth exploring (unless I have missed something) - Bangkok and Pattaya, very confused on which is better for some very sexy week. Could anyone here give a detailed guide for a total newbie on where, when to go and how do you proceeded with everything, literally what is the best option after you have check in into the hotel, where can you go, when can you go and how exactly do you proceed after you have spotted the girl you like till banging her in your hotel room.

Thank you guys in advance.[/QUOTE]Members on this forum please take note. This exact same worded post with just the names of cities changes was posted on the Angeles, Philippines threads a few days ago. I remember because I replied to that post.

[QUOTE=WolfieXXX;1826113]Hello guys,

I am a complete newbie to "mongering" (I guess it means sex tourism) and I am trying to obtain all the possible information before going somewhere.

SNIP

I have chosen Philippines to be my first destination, as far as I understand there are really only 2 cities worth exploring (unless I have missed something) - Angeles city and Manila, very confused on which is better for some very sexy week.

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when can you go and how exactly do you proceed after you have spotted the girl you like till banging her in your hotel room.

Thank you guys in advance.[/QUOTE]I am now left wondering if there is more to this than what meets the eye.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1828814]Members on this forum please take note. This exact same worded post with just the names of cities changes was posted on the Angeles, Philippines threads a few days ago. I remember because I replied to that post.

I am now left wondering if there is more to this than what meets the eye.[/QUOTE]I was thinking the same. There have been more 'newbie posts' like this in the past few months. I think they're only meant to provoke RTFF comments.

[QUOTE=RedDogger;1828692]Yes, illegal unfortunately.

Bremelanotide: Regular use has numerous unfortunate side effects, and the one that Filipinas would object to most violently is that it turns people dark brown or black. It is a tanning agent. Only works by injection, and who wants to inject stuff?

Some people were recently arrested for selling GHB in the Philippines, and got really long sentences.[/QUOTE]Is there no simpler use like Viagra or cialis for men: We have some tablet which we can put in drinks with the consent of the lady. Both of us can take together so she does not feel I am doing anything wrong to her. Just to make both of us more horny in the club, I know we have drugs like ecstasy but some generic form of that which can be obtained from the pharmacy in Bangkok or Pattaya. Must be a crazy thing for a horny night out, what fun it would be you are warming with a freelancer in a club, loads of drinks have been consumed and then you have two tequila shots with a tablet of something like Viagra together for a night of debauchery. Just thinking about it is making me horny guide me fellow bretheren if there is something anybody has experienced like this in BKK or Pattaya.

Eagerly waiting for a awesome answer: If it is difficult to answer in the forum: PM me fellas.

Adios.

I want to hunt now: LOL.

[QUOTE=Viper188;1828463]We're looking for some veterans here that can help us out. It's our first trip to Pattaya and we're looking for some pretty girls (Both local and foreign) to join us.

Any recommendation of where we should look at once we're there?

Thanks in advance boys![/QUOTE]To Answer, I am not coming to the concert, I come to Thailand for strict mongering purposes usually in the busy season knowing it is the busy season, but that's how work is.

Anyway, I looked at the line-up after you mentioned, I had no idea there was a festival of this scale happening in Pattaya.

I even looked at the venue out of curiosity, its a little away from Beach Road and Soi Bukhao, those are your 2 main mongering parallel streets. I have never been to that area so Locals, feel free to chime in.

Both offer different experiences but get you girls. I am just giving suggestions here but you should look into settling in and arriving a few days before the concert. That way you can scope the bars out, the malls out etc and meet girls. For p 4 p girls, there would be a bar fine + full night rate.

You could hit them up on TF, a dating site and plan contacts ahead if any lookers. Since there is a price tag at the festival, I'm not sure if P4P girls would invest get off from work, invest in the ticket hoping to get a guy. Lastly, they couldn't be bothered who is playing, most of them speak basic English.

If I were you I would come a few days early scope out the bar scene and secure 1 for that day. Or else, Long Live Soi 6! And get a short time before the concert!

Its not that difficult to get non P4P girls but you definitely need to spend time and meet them beforehand, hope they get work off etc.

Has any one brought of tried Prilligy tablet (tadalafil + depoxitamine) and where do you get in Pattaya. Is there any other alternate tablet which has combination of cialis and depoxitamine?

[QUOTE=WolfieXXX;1828664]Hello guys,

I am a complete newbie to "mongering" (I guess it means sex tourism) and I am trying to obtain all the possible information before going somewhere. You guys on these forums are a real help and I have been reading forums and trying to obtain any kind of information as much as I can, but I have finally decided to post my first message and ask you guys for some detailed help. I have chosen Thailand to be my first destination, as far as I understand there are really only 2 cities worth exploring (unless I have missed something) - Bangkok and Pattaya, very confused on which is better for some very sexy week. Could anyone here give a detailed guide for a total newbie on where, when to go and how do you proceeded with everything, literally what is the best option after you have check in into the hotel, where can you go, when can you go and how exactly do you proceed after you have spotted the girl you like till banging her in your hotel room.

Thank you guys in advance.[/QUOTE]This is the first time I am criticizing a newbie, based on your question I don't think you read one page of the forum.

Before my first trip in 2008 I read the forum for months and got all the info I needed except for the Gentlemen's clubs which I am not.

Sure existed back then.

[QUOTE=Alex7J;1828838]Is there no simpler use like Viagra or cialis for men: We have some tablet which we can put in drinks with the consent of the lady. Both of us can take together so she does not feel I am doing anything wrong to her. Just to make both of us more horny in the club, I know we have drugs like ecstasy but some generic form of that which can be obtained from the pharmacy in Bangkok or Pattaya. Must be a crazy thing for a horny night out, what fun it would be you are warming with a freelancer in a club, loads of drinks have been consumed and then you have two tequila shots with a tablet of something like Viagra together for a night of debauchery. [/QUOTE]Viagra or Cialis does [B]not[/B] make you (more) horny.

It will allow you to get an erection if you get aroused in case you have difficulties to get erect or get a stronger or longer lasting erection if you have no problems.

Don't mix up cause and effect: arousal will cause an erection, not the other way around.

Every so often, an article is pubished in the news about "Viagra for women". Most are plainly wrong and will discuss some pill to make women more horny and that is not the scope of "Viagra". Until now all these breakthrough pills never seem to have made it to the stage of actual distribution.

Actually, I do not think that these things are a good idea. Getting horny on command by taking a pill? What fun can that be?

[QUOTE=Prince0312;1828985]Has any one brought of tried Prilligy tablet (tadalafil + depoxitamine) and where do you get in Pattaya. Is there any other alternate tablet which has combination of cialis and depoxitamine?[/QUOTE]Not sure it is the same thing. Tadalafil, I recently got a hold of something called Tadalia 20 MG strips. I was told it was like cialis? Most of the products give me a big headache, I like to use the gels from to time and once unexpected had to go into action. I really wasn't in the mood (tired) but this was something I didn't want to pass up. So I went into the bathroom rip open a pack at the same time I needed to take a leak too and ended up with half the stuff on my shirt. The strips worked pretty well I slip with into my mouth and it melts like a breath mint. Didn't get a headache work for around 24 hours.

[QUOTE=TheCane;1827035]I was at the one Russian club in Pattaya located right off of Walking Street (don't remember the name). Some guys came in and headed straight for the loo, but the staff stopped them and shown a flashlight on a sign that said the toilet was for paying customers only. In other words, they each needed to buy a drink before relieving themselves. So, there's an example of one Pattaya establishment that makes sure there's no walking in, using their facilities, and then walking out after deciding not to stay without buying a drink. That must have happened enough times that they decided to actively put a stop to it.[/QUOTE]I agree. In fact, they can be rude. There is no freebie there. In fact, once when I went with a friend of mine who was a teetotaller, they insisted on having a drink even as we wanted to leave the place unsatisfied with the girls there. Of course, I had ordered my drink, but the they would have none of it and we ended up paying for another drink not consumed and left the place. No wonder they did not allow them.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1829094]Not sure it is the same thing. Tadalafil, I recently got a hold of something called Tadalia 20 MG strips. I was told it was like cialis? [/QUOTE]Tadalia is indeed Tadafil in tablets that easily melt in your mouth. So it is the same as Cialis, but in a different kind of tablet.

[QUOTE=Prince0312;1828985]Has any one brought of tried Prilligy tablet (tadalafil + depoxitamine) and where do you get in Pattaya. Is there any other alternate tablet which has combination of cialis and depoxitamine?[/QUOTE]Priligi is [B]only[/B] depoxitamine without tadalafil ("Cialis").

The combination of both makes no sense as Cialis / tadalafil works for about 24 hours and Priligi / dapoxitamine only for about 3 to 4 hours.

A combination of Viagra / sildenafil and Priligi / depoxitamine makes more sense as they have approx. the same duration. Super Kamagra is one such product.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1829204]Tadalia is indeed Tadafil in tablets that easily melt in your mouth. So it is the same as Cialis, but in a different kind of tablet.[/QUOTE]What I got is not in tablet form, they are clear strips like the Listerine clear breath strips. There are 7 small strips contained in a small plastic flip open box approximately 1 inch by 1 inch, 1/8 thick. Put one in your mouth and melts right away. A actual Tablet one got to bite down and break it up or even wash it down with liquor?.

It's spelt Priligy (aka Westoxetin) and the active ingredient is Dapoxetine Hydrochloride.

[QUOTE=WolfieXXX;1828664]Hello guys,

I am a complete newbie to "mongering" (I guess it means sex tourism) and I am trying to obtain all the possible information before going somewhere. You guys on these forums are a real help and I have been reading forums and trying to obtain any kind of information as much as I can, but I have finally decided to post my first message and ask you guys for some detailed help. I have chosen Thailand to be my first destination, as far as I understand there are really only 2 cities worth exploring (unless I have missed something) - Bangkok and Pattaya, very confused on which is better for some very sexy week. Could anyone here give a detailed guide for a total newbie on where, when to go and how do you proceeded with everything, literally what is the best option after you have check in into the hotel, where can you go, when can you go and how exactly do you proceed after you have spotted the girl you like till banging her in your hotel room.

Thank you guys in advance.[/QUOTE]I'd say that Pattaya is probably better than Bangkok for a newbie.

Because Bangkok is a huge, mostly non-sexy city with lots of traffic and pollution. You will find plenty of sexy women in Bangkok at various massage parlors and bars. But you probably won't enjoy the traffic and the pollution there. Getting from one part of the city to another isn't that easy or quick. You'll likely get bogged down in the traffic.

Bangkok might the place to go to, once you get over the novelty of doing it with many sexy women in Pattaya. Because in Bangkok you can find more than just sexy women. You can find sexy women who go out of their way to make you last for a long time with them, and they are pretty good at it too. At Annie's Massage for example, the sexy lady just blows you away with her mouth and makes you cum right there and then. She then rejuvenates you with her mouth and gets you to ride her with your cock. And of course, you are going to last for a long time with her in this situation, because your balls are empty and it takes time to work-up your second cum with her.

Two cumshots is all you get at Annie's Massage, which makes it better than many other massage places. But it still has a limit, which makes it less than the best. Ladies at some places like Tulip Massage don't put any limits on how many times you can cum, and they are pretty good at making you last for a long time too. Of course, not every massage parlor is like this in Bangkok. But if you are tired of the routine, and you are looking for something special, then you are more likely to find it in Bangkok than in Pattaya.

The routine is okay, when you are a newbie. And Pattaya is a good place to go to for this. But as the saying goes, "Once you get her, then you want more". You want more cumshots, you want anal, you want two ladies at the same time, and want to last for a long time too. And Bangkok is the place to go to for this.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1829254]What I got is not in tablet form, they are clear strips like the Listerine clear breath strips. (. . .) A actual Tablet one got to bite down and break it up or even wash it down with liquor?.[/QUOTE]OK. That is some form of "orally soluble film". You do not need a drink to swallow it. It dissolves in your saliva and then you swallow it. Very handy.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1829038]Viagra or Cialis does [B]not[/B] make you (more) horny.

It will allow you to get an erection if you get aroused in case you have difficulties to get erect or get a stronger or longer lasting erection if you have no problems.

Actually, I do not think that these things are a good idea. Getting horny on command by taking a pill? What fun can that be?[/QUOTE]Erection and normal horniness is not a big deal, when you are in a club with a lady and half a bottle down all this is normal, just to make things more exciting sometimes that is what I am looking for. Some kind of pill or oral which we both can take and it makes us crazy horny, you need to try new things and maybe you must be knowing about it.

Tell me if there is something like this and I will try and report on that, may be it works for some people like me. LOL.

Cheers.

What's the best option to catch the super bowl in pattaya? Any bars open that early?

[QUOTE=Breadman;1829467]What's the best option to catch the super bowl in pattaya? Any bars open that early?[/QUOTE]Many will be open for Super Bowl. Should be one close to where you are staying.

Curious about the crowds, is peak season slowing down or still busy?

You know, Pattaya is only 1.5 hrs away from Bangkok center, about 1,100 be with Mr Taxi, so you could even go there for the day. I have done that.

[QUOTE=Dan7373;1829282]I'd say that Pattaya is probably better than Bangkok for a newbie.

Because Bangkok is a huge, mostly non-sexy city with lots of traffic and pollution. You will find plenty of sexy women in Bangkok at various massage parlors and bars. But you probably won't enjoy the traffic and the pollution there. Getting from one part of the city to another isn't that easy or quick. You'll likely get bogged down in the traffic.

Bangkok might the place to go to, once you get over the novelty of doing it with many sexy women in Pattaya. Because in Bangkok you can find more than just sexy women. You can find sexy women who go out of their way to make you last for a long time with them, and they are pretty good at it too. At Annie's Massage for example, the sexy lady just blows you away with her mouth and makes you cum right there and then. She then rejuvenates you with her mouth and gets you to ride her with your cock. And of course, you are going to last for a long time with her in this situation, because your balls are empty and it takes time to work-up your second cum with her..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Breadman;1829467]What's the best option to catch the super bowl in pattaya? Any bars open that early?[/QUOTE]Retox on Soi Lengkee will be open for sure. I think they are open 24 hrs regularly. Flat screens all around that place too so you are sure to get a good view. They serve a decent breakfast too.

And if you are ready for an early start the Guinness is absolutely delicious, thought not served in the manner shown in the picture (this is a bit of false advertising on their part). 555.

[QUOTE=Alex7J;1828838]We have some tablet which we can put in drinks.[/QUOTE]Do not put GHB in alcoholic drink. The combination of GHB and alcohol is likely to be fatal, hence the joke name "Grievous Bodily Harm". Put GHB in juice. Administer only to girls who are reasonably sober. Also dangerous when combined with certain other drugs, but pretty much all the bad reactions and fatalities come from mixing with alcohol, drunk people taking GHB.

I'll be arriving on Wednesday of this week. I'll be in town for a week or two. I'm 32, white, and love laughing at people doing stupid stuff. If you'll be in town and need a wingman, send me a message.

I was in Pattaya last year, and it was awesome. I prefer go-go's, but I'll happily bar hop Soi 6 with anybody until I get suckered into a LT with a cute girl.

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[QUOTE=Breadman;1829467]What's the best option to catch the super bowl in pattaya? Any bars open that early?[/QUOTE]I-Rovers in the middle of LK Metro area is a good option. Watched the end of the SB there last year.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1829501]Curious about the crowds, is peak season slowing down or still busy?[/QUOTE]Funny you ask that question. I was just talking to my buddy here about it not being very busy. Even though it's still high season, it seems like low season. It's been pretty slow for the past few weeks.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1829604]Funny you ask that question. I was just talking to my buddy here about it not being very busy. Even though it's still high season, it seems like low season. It's been pretty slow for the past few weeks.[/QUOTE]The terrorist bomb attack earlier in 2015 seems to have frightened a lot of farang tourists.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1829622]The terrorist bomb attack earlier in 2015 seems to have frightened a lot of farang tourists.[/QUOTE]That and add in the low exchange rate for the ruble. Was looking into the possibility of taking a trip to Russia to take advantage of the better exchange rate but from reading reports, the pay for play hobby in Russia is hard to negotiate the ins and outs. Also noticed many websites quote prices in euro's so there's no break in the pricing.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1829467]What's the best option to catch the super bowl in pattaya? Any bars open that early?[/QUOTE]There are many, many bars that have super bowl parties. The game starts very early on Monday morning here, and I've attached a pic that I took sa few years ago advertising one of the parties. The local bars seem to love having these early morning events.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1829640]That and add in the low exchange rate for the ruble. Was looking into the possibility of taking a trip to Russia to take advantage of the better exchange rate but from reading reports, the pay for play hobby in Russia is hard to negotiate the ins and outs. Also noticed many websites quote prices in euro's so there's no break in the pricing.[/QUOTE]When I was in Patttaya / Jomtien last year October, almost the only farang tourist I met were Russian or Ukrainian, mainly families with children. English, German or Scandinavian tourists were conspicuous by their absence.

As noted, there are a number of places to watch the Super Bowl. Majority of the one's showing them are not big venues so there are just a few screens and if you do not get there early like 5:45 -6:00 you will not get a decent seat. Then some sitting is very uncomfortable? The smaller places might even take reservations? One year a place I like going whenever my team play was because of the breakfast but due to the size of his place he took reservations and only those buying into his pool got a reservation because I didn't offered 5,000 baht to buy a square I didn't attend. If you are in the L. K. Metro area, You got as mentioned Irish Rover, they have plenty of screens and one outside, Then there is the Golf Club, nearby with limited screens and sitting. Never been to Retox but know where it is and although they have a number of screens I do not like being enclosed inside. Places like this I find the A / see too cold at times but that is me? The best place I found is on Soi Baukhao just off Soi Lengkee, called Weatherspoons next to Oasis Go Go. Although it is open air with plenty of fans it is large with all large screens some seats are better than others. I get there around 6 am and usually and get my choice of seating. Breakfast opens at 6:30, it is European own so like most like to show nothing but Soccer but this day all screens show the game. If you like coffee, get the Mega for 280, it comes with two refills of coffee.

Last year, a small bar on W. S. Was opening and showing the game. It was two bartenders, two foreigners, and myself. I left, ate breakfast, and returned. It was empty the entire time.

Walk around, you'll see plenty of signs.

To add also a report about girls here I write of my experiences the last few days in Pattaya. I was mostly visiting GoGo-Bars. I have been in Soapies like Sabai-Dee, Honey2 and Rasputin but when I was there (around 3 pm) I did not see any girl to my liking. I walked along Soi 6,7 and 8 but also did not see anything to my taste (I did not venture into the bars).

I must write too about what kind of women I am looking for because I don't look for small (around 150 cm) young (look like schoolgirl) but for a more taller (at least 160 cm) and also a bit mor mature woman. Not exactly MILF but say mid-twenties. I did see girls looking like 14 and girls with a superb body. But if she looks and behaves like a schoolgirl its just nothing for me (exceptions are rare but exist).

Now to the GoGos: I visited some at LK Metro (the first days I also stayed there) but was not too impressed. In "Sugar Sugar" I did not see anything, at "The Office" I saw only one girl in a dress outside which interested me, but did not ask if they are barfineable. Also they should renovate their toilet. Amethyst was also not to my taste. Ninja had one interesting girl, but when I was there she was with a customer so I left. Champagne now is different as it had a show of a professional Pole dancer. She was the most interesting girl for me there. But I too did not ask whether she is barfineable.

So most of my time I was in GoGos at Walking Street. The russian ones I skipped completely. I visited Palace, Living Dolls 1, Living Dolls Showcase, Heavens Above, Crazy House, Airfield?, Skyfall, Iron, Alcatraz, Whats Up, Saphire, Happy, Sharks, Supergirl, Sugarbabes, Angelwitch, Peppermint. Maybe I forgot one or two. Most of them were filled with the schoolgirl type so not to my liking. Things I remember are:

Sharks had only a few girls.

I did not like Alcatraz.

When I asked at Heavens Above about the girls it seemed they were not barfineable so I left very soon and did not come back.

Saphire had one beauty I could not resist, but she was a starfish.

Living Dolls 1 had a really good looking and good dancing one, but I couldn't get her to my table. When I came back another day she was not there.

Skyfall has a very long layout which makes it hard to see all the girls who are dancing at one moment. They had two classes of girls coyotes (blue / white) and models (black dress / nudity). Models are more expensive, I remember the barfines of 1500/1000 for coyotes (before and after midnight) and 2000/1500 for models. And that's only the barfine, the girl gets 3000 or 4000 (don't remember). I sampled a model inspite of the price. I got her number so maybe I repeat cheaper next time.

Iron also has a long layout like skyfall but between the two stages with dancers is an area where nude girls do shows. I liked the girls at the stage in the back. I was really tempted, but they quoted me 4000 shorttime 5000 longtime (including barfine) at 2 am so I declined. At 2 am the atmosphere was much better compared to 9 pm.

Whats Up had the highest price for a coke (185 THB) but not the best girls.

For me Skyfall and Iron had the best lineup.

Some GoGos show nudity and some don't.

I did not venture into the Gogos at Soi13/ x or Soi 7/8.

I have been a lurker for a long time. I will return to Pattaya in a few days time, so I thought it would be helpful if I posted a report my last monger trip.

I am a 32 year-old, white, American man who stays in good shape. Last year was my first monger trip ever and having it be Pattaya was almost overkill.

Day 1:

I arrived at BKK at 6:30 pm And was met by a taxi driver with my name on a card. I had booked the taxi through the Jasmine Hotel. The total cost was 1000 baht. (They have since raised it to 1250).

I took this option because I didn't want to worry about trivial things during my visit. I napped on the drive from BKK and the drive seemed to take forever. Finally, street lights broke the darkness of Thailand's countryside. Motorbikes, cars, and city life followed. Driving in Thailand is hectic to say the at least. I spent the last 20 minutes of transport watching scooters fly around the van, inches from serious injury.

The driver pulled up to a back alley and parked. I couldn't see any hotel, but he motioned for me to follow him, so I did. He cut through bars and back streets carrying my bag until we hit the exact center of Walking Street (W. S.). Going from the silence of the ride to the sounds of the street felt almost overwhelming, but in a good way. Everywhere I looked, I saw beautiful half-naked girls calling loudly to me. At first, I thought it might be my looks, or my jeans and nice shirt. It wasn't until the next night that I realized that's what they do for every man.

The driver continued to walk through side roads until we arrived at the Jasmine Hotel. The hotel allows you to pay at the end of your stay, reserve online without a credit card, and is in the heart of W. S. Those things together made me happily pick it. I'm glad I did! Check in was smooth, the room was clean, I never heard any outside noise, and it was convenient. I highly recommend that hotel to first time mongers.

After a quick shower, I hit W. S. For dinner. I ended up at a restaurant on W. S. Which had a decent burger but nothing worth remembering. I paid 300 for a burger and a beer. With food in my stomach and my travel rust knocked off, it felt like time to see what Pattaya W. S. Had to offer.

Go-go's are my cup of tea. I absolutely love them. I hopped from one to the next, never staying longer than a single beer. Kid in a candy shop feels like an understatement when compared to a bad boy in Pattaya. I must have went to at least 15 go-go's the first night, and had a beer in each. I spent more time walking than I did talking to the girls. I tried to take it all in on the first night. I don't want to call it a mistake, but I wouldn't suggest anybody try to do it. Here is as list of the go-go's I remember from the first night.

Baccara: The bottom floor was packed, so I immediately went to the second. That place was a little depressing. The girls look bored out of their minds. They won't look at customers, and they have men taking drink orders.

Alcatraz: I went in and had a 5/10 girl begging me for a drink before I had even sat down. I was drunk and it was my first night. What a huge mistake. After I ordered it, she disappeared. It sat there until after my beer was finished. They charged me for it. I paid without complaint and left. I did not return. Don't go there. It'll leave a bad taste in your mouth.

Alley Cats (maybe): I went to a hidden little go-go on Soi BJ which is on the same back street as Jasmine Hotel. They were wild! I think the name is Alley Cats or something like that. They pulled mini-me out. I wasn't hard because I was fairly drunk by that time. Two girls took turns sucking me off, trying to get me hard. Their friends were clapping and cheering them on from the stage. Then something happened which has become a lasting memory; one girl straddled me and rubbed her tits on my face while her friend sucked me off. That worked! I was rock solid within two seconds. Finally, an older Asian group got tired of being ignored, so they bought two bucket of balls. The girls went crazy for those little ping-pong balls. That was when I learned about the "bucket of balls" and the reaction they achieve. The girls, who were playing with me, went off and chased the balls, so I left to visit the toilet in my hotel.

I was certainly hammered drunk by that time and started questioning my abilities to stay hard. The decision to seek medical aid was made in my mentally altered state and I stumbled to a pharmacy and bought some Cialis. It cost me 1000 baht for 4 pills on W. S. After midnight. I was too drunk to care. I popped one and went back to exploring. An hour later, I was barely standing when I left the last go-go. I wanted to see it all, but barely made a dent in the possibilities. I tried to make it back to the room, but was met at the entrance of Soi BJ by one of the girls who sucked me in Alley Cats. She was just getting off work. She basically did all of the talking, and I just nodded in a drunken stupor. We went back to my room and showered together. The bright light, cool water, and pill brought me back to my senses. I saw her mid-20's body with shorter brown hair, small be-cups, and round butt. She had smooth creamy skin which showed no signs of stretching.

After splashing around and playful kissing, she ended up on the bathroom sink, not bent over, actually sitting on the sink. I grabbed a condom from my razor bag and went to town. After a few minutes, we heard a crack. We laughed and moved to the bed. She pushed me back onto the bed and rode me like a champ. I felt close to cumming after 30 seconds, but I managed to hold on long enough to roll her over and go missionary on the end of the bed. I squatted but stayed standing, my hips were even with the mattress as I pulled her to the end of the bed and continued my porn star fantasy. She gripped my shoulders after about two minutes and had an enthusiastic orgasm. I felt like a king for giving it to her! She laid back and smiled while I slowed my pace thinking she might need a minute, but I was wrong. She rolled me onto the bed. My hips and legs were over the side, with my feet on the floor. She then straddled my legs and put her feet on the floor while facing away from me. I don't even know how to describe it properly, but it was like reverse cowgirl except she could stand. She bounced up and down on me for 5 seconds before I realized what she was going for. Wow! It felt like oral and sex at the same time. Once we established a good rhythm, she reached down and cupped my balls. I lost it right then! It was so good that I ripped the sheets off the mattress. She giggled, gave my balls one last playful squeeze, and hopped off so I could go clean up.

As soon as I returned to the bed, she cleaned up, got dressed, and told me she wanted to go dancing with her friends. I didn't argue at all because LT isn't my thing. I paid her 1500 baht. She seemed really happy with that, and kissed my cheek as a good-bye. I stumbled back to my unkempt bed and passed out in a drunken haze. That was day one.

Funnily enough, I only slept with her once, but saw her several times during the trip. She even bought me lunch! More on that in future reports.

I'll continue to report if people ask for it. I'm giving this report now because I'll be back in Pattaya in 48 hours. I wouldn't mind meeting up with anybody. I'm a great wingman.

[QUOTE=Adrena;1830253]I have been a lurker for a long time. I will return to Pattaya in a few days time, so I thought it would be helpful if I posted a report my last monger trip.

I am a 32 year-old, white, American man who stays in good shape. Last year was my first monger trip ever and having it be Pattaya was almost overkill.

Day 1:

I arrived at BKK at 6:30 pm And was met by a taxi driver with my name on a card. I had booked the taxi through the Jasmine Hotel. The total cost was 1000 baht. (They have since raised it to 1250).

I took this option because I didn't want to worry about trivial things during my visit. I napped on the drive from BKK and the drive seemed to take forever. Finally, street lights broke the darkness of Thailand's countryside. Motorbikes, cars, and city life followed. Driving in Thailand is hectic to say the at least. I spent the last 20 minutes of transport watching scooters fly around the van, inches from serious injury.

The driver pulled up to a back alley and parked. I couldn't see any hotel, but he motioned for me to follow him, so I did. He cut through bars and back streets carrying my bag until we hit the exact center of Walking Street (W. S.). Going from the silence of the ride to the sounds of the street felt almost overwhelming, but in a good way. Everywhere I looked, I saw beautiful half-naked girls calling loudly to me. At first, I thought it might be my looks, or my jeans and nice shirt. It wasn't until the next night that I realized that's what they do for every man.

The driver continued to walk through side roads until we arrived at the Jasmine Hotel. The hotel allows you to pay at the end of your stay, reserve online without a credit card, and is in the heart of W. S. Those things together made me happily pick it. I'm glad I did! Check in was smooth, the room was clean, I never heard any outside noise, and it was convenient. I highly recommend that hotel to first time mongers.

After a quick shower, I hit W. S. For dinner. I ended up at a restaurant on W. S. Which had a decent burger but nothing worth remembering. I paid 300 for a burger and a beer. With food in my stomach and my travel rust knocked off, it felt like time to see what Pattaya W. S. Had to offer.

Go-go's are my cup of tea. I absolutely love them. I hopped from one to the next, never staying longer than a single beer. Kid in a candy shop feels like an understatement when compared to a bad boy in Pattaya. I must have went to at least 15 go-go's the first night, and had a beer in each. I spent more time walking than I did talking to the girls. I tried to take it all in on the first night. I don't want to call it a mistake, but I wouldn't suggest anybody try to do it. Here is as list of the go-go's I remember from the first night.

Baccara: The bottom floor was packed, so I immediately went to the second. That place was a little depressing. The girls look bored out of their minds. They won't look at customers, and they have men taking drink orders.

Alcatraz: I went in and had a 5/10 girl begging me for a drink before I had even sat down. I was drunk and it was my first night. What a huge mistake. After I ordered it, she disappeared. It sat there until after my beer was finished. They charged me for it. I paid without complaint and left. I did not return. Don't go there. It'll leave a bad taste in your mouth.

Alley Cats (maybe): I went to a hidden little go-go on Soi BJ which is on the same back street as Jasmine Hotel. They were wild! I think the name is Alley Cats or something like that. They pulled mini-me out. I wasn't hard because I was fairly drunk by that time. Two girls took turns sucking me off, trying to get me hard. Their friends were clapping and cheering them on from the stage. Then something happened which has become a lasting memory; one girl straddled me and rubbed her tits on my face while her friend sucked me off. That worked! I was rock solid within two seconds. Finally, an older Asian group got tired of being ignored, so they bought two bucket of balls. The girls went crazy for those little ping-pong balls. That was when I learned about the "bucket of balls" and the reaction they achieve. The girls, who were playing with me, went off and chased the balls, so I left to visit the toilet in my hotel.

I was certainly hammered drunk by that time and started questioning my abilities to stay hard. The decision to seek medical aid was made in my mentally altered state and I stumbled to a pharmacy and bought some Cialis. It cost me 1000 baht for 4 pills on W. S. After midnight. I was too drunk to care. I popped one and went back to exploring. An hour later, I was barely standing when I left the last go-go. I wanted to see it all, but barely made a dent in the possibilities. I tried to make it back to the room, but was met at the entrance of Soi BJ by one of the girls who sucked me in Alley Cats. She was just getting off work. She basically did all of the talking, and I just nodded in a drunken stupor. We went back to my room and showered together. The bright light, cool water, and pill brought me back to my senses. I saw her mid-20's body with shorter brown hair, small be-cups, and round butt. She had smooth creamy skin which showed no signs of stretching.

After splashing around and playful kissing, she ended up on the bathroom sink, not bent over, actually sitting on the sink. I grabbed a condom from my razor bag and went to town. After a few minutes, we heard a crack. We laughed and moved to the bed. She pushed me back onto the bed and rode me like a champ. I felt close to cumming after 30 seconds, but I managed to hold on long enough to roll her over and go missionary on the end of the bed. I squatted but stayed standing, my hips were even with the mattress as I pulled her to the end of the bed and continued my porn star fantasy. She gripped my shoulders after about two minutes and had an enthusiastic orgasm. I felt like a king for giving it to her! She laid back and smiled while I slowed my pace thinking she might need a minute, but I was wrong. She rolled me onto the bed. My hips and legs were over the side, with my feet on the floor. She then straddled my legs and put her feet on the floor while facing away from me. I don't even know how to describe it properly, but it was like reverse cowgirl except she could stand. She bounced up and down on me for 5 seconds before I realized what she was going for. Wow! It felt like oral and sex at the same time. Once we established a good rhythm, she reached down and cupped my balls. I lost it right then! It was so good that I ripped the sheets off the mattress. She giggled, gave my balls one last playful squeeze, and hopped off so I could go clean up.

As soon as I returned to the bed, she cleaned up, got dressed, and told me she wanted to go dancing with her friends. I didn't argue at all because LT isn't my thing. I paid her 1500 baht. She seemed really happy with that, and kissed my cheek as a good-bye. I stumbled back to my unkempt bed and passed out in a drunken haze. That was day one.

Funnily enough, I only slept with her once, but saw her several times during the trip. She even bought me lunch! More on that in future reports.

I'll continue to report if people ask for it. I'm giving this report now because I'll be back in Pattaya in 48 hours. I wouldn't mind meeting up with anybody. I'm a great wingman.[/QUOTE]I have spent a lot of time upstairs at Baccara and I think you probably misunderstood what you were seeing. The girls there look (innocent), act (shy) and dress (young) in a way that attracts Jap & Korean customers. It is all very understated until the ping pong balls get flying.

Very good FR. You should have more posts in the forum going by your experience.

Nicely narrated. Will help all.

Yes please post more of your experiences of Pattaya.

Do post your recent experience too after the tour.

Thanks,

[QUOTE=Adrena;1830253]I have been a lurker for a long time. I will return to Pattaya in a few days time, so I thought it would be helpful if I posted a report my last monger trip.

I am a 32 year-old, white, American man who stays in good shape. Last year was my first monger trip ever and having it be Pattaya was almost overkill.

Day 1:

I arrived at BKK at 6:30 pm And was met by a taxi driver with my name on a card. I had booked the taxi through the Jasmine Hotel. The total cost was 1000 baht. (They have since raised it to 1250).

I took this option because I didn't want to worry about trivial things during my visit. I napped on the drive from BKK and the drive seemed to take forever. Finally, street lights broke the darkness of Thailand's countryside. Motorbikes, cars, and city life followed. Driving in Thailand is hectic to say the at least. I spent the last 20 minutes of transport watching scooters fly around the van, inches from serious injury.

The driver pulled up to a back alley and parked. I couldn't see any hotel, but he motioned for me to follow him, so I did. He cut through bars and back streets carrying my bag until we hit the exact center of Walking Street (W. S.). Going from the silence of the ride to the sounds of the street felt almost overwhelming, but in a good way. Everywhere I looked, I saw beautiful half-naked girls calling loudly to me. At first, I thought it might be my looks, or my jeans and nice shirt. It wasn't until the next night that I realized that's what they do for every man.

The driver continued to walk through side roads until we arrived at the Jasmine Hotel. The hotel allows you to pay at the end of your stay, reserve online without a credit card, and is in the heart of W. S. Those things together made me happily pick it. I'm glad I did! Check in was smooth, the room was clean, I never heard any outside noise, and it was convenient. I highly recommend that hotel to first time mongers.

After a quick shower, I hit W. S. For dinner. I ended up at a restaurant on W. S. Which had a decent burger but nothing worth remembering. I paid 300 for a burger and a beer. With food in my stomach and my travel rust knocked off, it felt like time to see what Pattaya W. S. Had to offer.

Go-go's are my cup of tea. I absolutely love them. I hopped from one to the next, never staying longer than a single beer. Kid in a candy shop feels like an understatement when compared to a bad boy in Pattaya. I must have went to at least 15 go-go's the first night, and had a beer in each. I spent more time walking than I did talking to the girls. I tried to take it all in on the first night. I don't want to call it a mistake, but I wouldn't suggest anybody try to do it. Here is as list of the go-go's I remember from the first night.

Baccara: The bottom floor was packed, so I immediately went to the second. That place was a little depressing. The girls look bored out of their minds. They won't look at customers, and they have men taking drink orders.

Alcatraz: I went in and had a 5/10 girl begging me for a drink before I had even sat down. I was drunk and it was my first night. What a huge mistake. After I ordered it, she disappeared. It sat there until after my beer was finished. They charged me for it. I paid without complaint and left. I did not return. Don't go there. It'll leave a bad taste in your mouth.

Alley Cats (maybe): I went to a hidden little go-go on Soi BJ which is on the same back street as Jasmine Hotel. They were wild! I think the name is Alley Cats or something like that. They pulled mini-me out. I wasn't hard because I was fairly drunk by that time. Two girls took turns sucking me off, trying to get me hard. Their friends were clapping and cheering them on from the stage. Then something happened which has become a lasting memory; one girl straddled me and rubbed her tits on my face while her friend sucked me off. That worked! I was rock solid within two seconds. Finally, an older Asian group got tired of being ignored, so they bought two bucket of balls. The girls went crazy for those little ping-pong balls. That was when I learned about the "bucket of balls" and the reaction they achieve. The girls, who were playing with me, went off and chased the balls, so I left to visit the toilet in my hotel.

I was certainly hammered drunk by that time and started questioning my abilities to stay hard. The decision to seek medical aid was made in my mentally altered state and I stumbled to a pharmacy and bought some Cialis. It cost me 1000 baht for 4 pills on W. S. After midnight. I was too drunk to care. I popped one and went back to exploring. An hour later, I was barely standing when I left the last go-go. I wanted to see it all, but barely made a dent in the possibilities. I tried to make it back to the room, but was met at the entrance of Soi BJ by one of the girls who sucked me in Alley Cats. She was just getting off work. She basically did all of the talking, and I just nodded in a drunken stupor. We went back to my room and showered together. The bright light, cool water, and pill brought me back to my senses. I saw her mid-20's body with shorter brown hair, small be-cups, and round butt. She had smooth creamy skin which showed no signs of stretching.

After splashing around and playful kissing, she ended up on the bathroom sink, not bent over, actually sitting on the sink. I grabbed a condom from my razor bag and went to town. After a few minutes, we heard a crack. We laughed and moved to the bed. She pushed me back onto the bed and rode me like a champ. I felt close to cumming after 30 seconds, but I managed to hold on long enough to roll her over and go missionary on the end of the bed. I squatted but stayed standing, my hips were even with the mattress as I pulled her to the end of the bed and continued my porn star fantasy. She gripped my shoulders after about two minutes and had an enthusiastic orgasm. I felt like a king for giving it to her! She laid back and smiled while I slowed my pace thinking she might need a minute, but I was wrong. She rolled me onto the bed. My hips and legs were over the side, with my feet on the floor. She then straddled my legs and put her feet on the floor while facing away from me. I don't even know how to describe it properly, but it was like reverse cowgirl except she could stand. She bounced up and down on me for 5 seconds before I realized what she was going for. Wow! It felt like oral and sex at the same time. Once we established a good rhythm, she reached down and cupped my balls. I lost it right then! It was so good that I ripped the sheets off the mattress. She giggled, gave my balls one last playful squeeze, and hopped off so I could go clean up.

As soon as I returned to the bed, she cleaned up, got dressed, and told me she wanted to go dancing with her friends. I didn't argue at all because LT isn't my thing. I paid her 1500 baht. She seemed really happy with that, and kissed my cheek as a good-bye. I stumbled back to my unkempt bed and passed out in a drunken haze. That was day one.

Funnily enough, I only slept with her once, but saw her several times during the trip. She even bought me lunch! More on that in future reports.

I'll continue to report if people ask for it. I'm giving this report now because I'll be back in Pattaya in 48 hours. I wouldn't mind meeting up with anybody. I'm a great wingman.[/QUOTE]

[URL]http://www.jomtiennightlife.com/rompho-complex-bars/[/URL]

Wondering if anyone has been to Rompho Road in Jomtien. If so, how is it? Prices comparable to soi 7 and 8 bar girls? Any other areas in Jomtien?

In March last year I spent a couple of weeks in Jomtien. Visited mostly the Rompho Complex and some bars in the nearby Sois. The girls were friendly enough, but very hard to find visually attractive ones. In fact, I nearly forgot what hot girls look like while staying there!

Eventually found a cute girl I repeated with, nice personality and good performer. At the Winchester Club I tried a girl with braces and irresistible boobs. Rather mechanical and a bit rushed experience, no kissing and DATY allowed.

Is there a reason why Kinnaree Place is not among the gentlemen's clubs you are going to visit? Didn't visit myself, think it was closed for renewal when I stayed there, but heard some good things about the place.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1830397][URL]http://www.jomtiennightlife.com/rompho-complex-bars/[/URL]

Wondering if anyone has been to Rompho Road in Jomtien. I'll be spending 2 nights in Jomtien next trip so was looking for places to go. Any other areas in Jomtien?

I'll be checking out Rioja Gentlemans Club and The Winchester Club (reopened?) while in the area. Will report back.[/QUOTE]

I woke up on the second day holding my head and wishing for water. The hotel refrigerator was stocked with several bottles, and I drank two of them immediately. I was very fortunate to have a dark room which remained quiet the entire stay. I never heard construction or talking in the halls. That second morning, I was grateful for the silence as any noise sounded like an explosion ringing in my ears.

I eventually built the willpower and forced myself to shower and dress. I put on a pair of Ray-bans I bought a long time ago in America and set off in hopes of finding lunch. I had walked for maybe five minutes before I was basically assaulted by sunglasses selling men. They must have assumed that I had one pair, so I must want to buy 10 more. They tried telling me that my pair were fake. I smiled and tried to be polite with them at first, by the end of the trip, I would simply ignore them or kindly say no thank you and keep moving. Some advice; never stop walking. If you stop walking, you won't get away. They aren't mean, just relentless.

I found a nice restaurant serving breakfast at noon for only 130 baht. It was pretty good, and the juice instantly made my hangover feel better.

I had heard many things about Soi 6, and I felt energetic enough to explore, so I thought I'd take a short walk down the beach from W. S. And see what the hype was about. Well, Soi 6 isn't just a short walk from W. S. ! I was drenched in sweat from the hot Thai sun by the time I finally arrived at Soi 6. Another thing, the streets have weird addressing. I got lost going in a straight line. The streets change names, and when you think you have the system figured out, it changes again!

Soi 6 was pretty quiet at noon, besides some ladyboy's. They did their usual, "you come here" call and I found a foot massage place to rest while plotting the next move.

The thought of walking all the way back to W. S. Seemed daunting but I had little choice. Thankfully, I had lurked this forum long enough to remember baht buses. I saw a Russian couple hopping on one, so I got on as quickly as I could. That saved my feet over the next few days. I spent a few hours napping in my air conditioned room, and then headed back out to start the evening.

It was quite interesting watching W. S. "wake up" for festivities. During the day, it is just another hot, crowded street. Wait until sunset and sit at a bar. You'll see it start to change. The cars clear out, and the street starts to come to life. I had a few beers while playing bar games with a large Thai lady. Her English was good, but her gaming abilities were better. I couldn't win a game even when she was letting me. After a few beers and a spicy Thai dish for dinner, I was ready to hit more go-go's!

I walked down side streets trying to see some of the "shadier" establishments. One of them stands out in my mind from the second night. Unfortunately, I can't remember the name. I'll get the name this week and let the forum know. Anyways, I was the first customer of the evening and the girls were already dancing. I took a seat and enjoyed my beer. A mamasan came and shook my hand. She seemed eager to help me find a girl. I bought her a drink and we got to talking. She let me play with the laser pointer that she uses to point girls out. I tried to find a girl with big tits and braces. Why? Because I've never had that combination before. She introduced me to a few stunners, but nothing that begged to be bought so early in the evening. I finally took my leave and set out to explore more go-go's. I ended up in Spanky's. I've been told it's a ladyboy bar now. That's a shame. I liked that place. They had these foam sticks they would hit each other with. I got a hold of two of them and made some nun-chucks using some twisted tape and string that was sitting on the bar. Not my sexiest moment, but it was hilarious. Some German men thought my antics were awesome and promptly bought me a shot. I sat with them for a while chatting. If you were those Germans, it was great meeting you! We talked for about an hour while fondling girls and drinking heavily. We left and hit a few more go-go's together before each of them was set with a lovely lady. I was still empty-handed, so we parted ways. I went back to my room and popped another cialis and decided it was time to get lady number two.

I went back to Alley Cats hoping to get the same girl from the night before, but she was no where to be found. I found her friend instead! Literally, 100 steps away from my bed; talk about convenient. I had to pay a be. F. 800 I think. Then we walked straight back to my hotel. The girl seemed colder than her friend, her name was Oi or Oy something O. I tried to talk with her, but it was all business. Very mechanical, nothing special. She had decent tits though. We showered separate of each other and she wore a shower cap and didn't wash her face because she didn't want to ruin her make-up. I had intentions of fucking her so hard that it would get ruined anyways, but even that didn't work out. She star fished. As soon as I finished, she demanded 2000 baht. I paid and she left. I turned in at about 1 in the morning with hopes of avoiding another hangover.

Day 3 turned out to be way better than day 2. Stay tuned!

[QUOTE=Adrena;1830253]
Alley Cats (maybe): I went to a hidden little go-go on Soi BJ which is on the same back street as Jasmine Hotel. They were wild! I think the name is Alley Cats or something like that. [/QUOTE]I suppose this was Wildcats a-gogo.

[QUOTE=Adrena;1830253]I have been a lurker for a long time. I will return to Pattaya in a few days time, so I thought it would be helpful if I posted a report my last monger trip.

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I'll continue to report if people ask for it. I'm giving this report now because I'll be back in Pattaya in 48 hours. I wouldn't mind meeting up with anybody. I'm a great wingman.[/QUOTE]An outstanding report. Looks like you started on a good note and found yourself the proverbial diamond in the rough. I hope you continue to have fun in Pattaya and report it here in the same informative and entertaining way. At the rate your going, you will have mopped up Walking Street in 3 days flat. Good on you mate!

[QUOTE=Adrena;1830253]I have been a lurker for a long time. I will return to Pattaya in a few days time, so I thought it would be helpful if I posted a report my last monger trip..[/QUOTE]Thanks for the great reports. Reminds me a bit of my first trip to Pattaya years ago. I too was like a kid in a candy store in the Gogos.

Your report is a great contrast to a guy recently reporting from AC that is too cheap to buy himself a drink in some Gogos and then wonders why he is getting such poor service inside and outside of club.

Good reports, Adrena. I had way more fun with the clubs on the side streets than the ones on WS itself.

[QUOTE=Sketchy;1830426]In March last year I spent a couple of weeks in Jomtien. Visited mostly the Rompho Complex and some bars in the nearby Sois. The girls were friendly enough, but very hard to find visually attractive ones. In fact, I nearly forgot what hot girls look like while staying there!

Is there a reason why Kinnaree Place is not among the gentlemen's clubs you are going to visit? Didn't visit myself, think it was closed for renewal when I stayed there, but heard some good things about the place.[/QUOTE]Thanks I will skip Rompho Complex then other than maybe a quick walk through like I do with soi 7 and soi 8.

Visited Kinnaree a few times in November and I love it there. If clubs like Rioja, Winchester, Heaven, M, Venus are even half as good I'd be happy. Go to Kinnaree on Saturday afternoon the BBQ ribs are pretty decent. Nice girls good service and 1300 baht total for 30+ minutes in a freshly cleaned room is a good deal.

I leave for Pattaya today. If anybody is in town, let me know.

Day 3:

Surprisingly, I woke up full of energy. I expected another hangover despite turning in early. It was 8 am When I was ready to explore some more of the city. Unfortunately, Pattaya doesn't wake up that early. I found only a few open breakfast shops and some haggard ladyboys who absolutely begged me to take them home. I wandered down the beach alone watching the waves and enjoying the tranquil water. It was a nice change of pace, and truly felt like the beginning to my vacation. A few hours slipped by while I walked casually down beach road. I stopped for coffee and watched beach going couples and Chinese tourists while the streets slowly came to life. I walked back to near W. S. And got lunch at a German shop on Second Road; it was delicious.

After lunch, I took a short nap and relaxed in the air conditioned hotel room. After getting ready for the evening, I set out to find dinner. Across from the entrance of Jasmine is a small restaurant which serves typical Thai food. I sat there and ordered. I didn't know at the same but a ladyboy bar is across from the restaurant. Two of them got into a fight while I was eating. It was quite entertaining watching them try to hit each other with shoes. Dinner and a show, what more could you ask for? I wandered down W. S. And stopped at a beer bar at the end of W. S. Where it meets Beach Road. Several girls vied for my attention and I was more than happy to oblige. Can you bar fine those girls? I never asked since they didn't give off that vibe. They seemed extremely friendly, even for Thai people, and went out of their way to make me laugh. I stayed there for almost three hours before the go-go's were open. Needless to say, but I was hammered drunk again.

I left the beer bar determined to see more go-go's, but I had a small problem. I had a raging erection, and it made walking difficult. The cialis sure does stay in your system! I tried to tuck it down, push it up, move it to the side, everything! But it was determined to lead the way. I walked into a small go-go and took a seat hoping it would go away, but then the girls started dancing. It was diamond hard before I had even ordered a beer. Two girls sat next to me after a few minutes and tried talking to me in broken English. One of them looked down, and giggled loudly. The other looked, and then the Thai words flowed freely as they pointed and grabbed it. They asked who gave it to me, both wanted to take credit. I meekly replied that they both had been the cause. I didn't have the heart to explain the truth. I used the toilets in the go-go and it helped, but aiming was difficult. After it relaxed enough for me to walk freely, I left the small go-go. I think it was Runway. It didn't have any topless girls. All of them started to blur together, so I'm sorry I can't be more specific.

Walking down the street made my erection return. I felt like a 13 year-old boy again. Where even the wind got me hard. I ducked into another go-go hoping to relax mini-me. Unfortunately, I walked into the wildest go-go on W. S. It was named Sugar baby or Sugar something. It had a shower in the back. Old men were licking girls who were laying on stage, and two girls were making out under the shower head. That made my erection wide awake! I took a seat, ordered a drink, and watched the naughtiness continue unabated. A big-breasted spinner struck up a conversation with me and even encouraged me to touch her tits. In America, touching in a strip club is definitely not allowed, so I kept my hands to myself out of habit until she grabbed my hand and put it on her breast. I bought her a drink and enjoyed atmosphere while she gave me a handjob under the table. It felt amazing, but it did nothing to release the pent up pressure building in my balls.

My flight is about to broad now. I'll continue the story during my lay-over in Malaysia.

Stay tuned!

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1830683] 1300 baht total for 30+ minutes in a freshly cleaned room is a good deal.[/QUOTE]Funny that you wrote a time frame in your post, can't think of one time a girl ever told me I was running out of time 'anywhere' in Thailand except the massage parlors.

I'm sitting in Malaysia waiting to board the final flight to Bangkok. I wrote the final part to day three while enduring turbulence and an overweight passenger snoring next to me.

At least airline food is getting better.

Last call, who wants to party with me this week and next, I'll be hitting go-go's, Soi 6, and Hooter's. If you want to meet, I'll post a time and place.

Part 3 continued:

I was thoroughly enjoying the hand job from the lovely lady, but had to ask her to stop since I badly needed to use the toilet again. Drinking so many beers had left my bladder in a bad state. Upon returning to my table, I saw that another punter had taken my place and had bought the lady a new drink. I didn't complain because it gave me an easy way to slip out without having to say no.

Luckily, my erection was manageable enough to allow walking, and I ventured off in hopes of securing another one-night lover. I lost count of how many go-go's I visited that night. I might have visited the same ones twice; it's difficult to tell which one is which after a while. Some had spinners, some had coyotes, and some had ugly beasts begging to be taken. I tried to beat Pattaya, but it wouldn't fall so easily.

Eventually, I ended up strolling down the middle of W. S. Singing rugby songs with some Australians I had met. They were early 50's but they partied harder than I did most nights in college. Several girls approached us, but the Australians were having none of it. They were intent on Baccara and a ping-pong contest they had apparently invented. The rules of their game were simple; first one to make a girl accidentally hurt herself, wins. I didn't really understand what they meant until they had started chucking balls in weird directions. One would throw a ball through a hole in the center of the second-story stage and watch the girls chase it. Another would throw it just out of a girl's reach over the side of the stage in hopes she would fall trying to catch it. They took turns tossing balls and testing the patience of the dancers. I sat in a bewildered state and watched the spectacle. It was surprising to see how nimble those Thai girls can be! I swear I saw one girl catch a ball behind her back while talking to another guy sitting next to the stage. I left the Australians after a girl twisted her ankle and set out to find a spinner to take home.

I walked up and down the street several times hoping to find a girl, but I guess the main W. S. Isn't the best place to do this. I tried the beginning of beach road but quickly abandoned my hopes after the fifth Ladyboy tried to grab my dick. I headed back to my room thinking I could get another girl close to my hotel. Sadly, I saw none. I felt sleepy after the walking and drinking, and my erection had finally abated.

I took a long shower and relaxed in the air conditioning of my room and made a solemn promise to have sex with two girls the next day. It was a promise I kept.

Stay tuned for day 4. My adventures in Soi 6, and the return of the diamond from day 1!

[QUOTE=Adrena;1830253]...Alcatraz: ...Don't go there. It'll leave a bad taste in your mouth...[/QUOTE]That was a good report! But it appears that you are a Pattaya newbie, so I was surprised that you were so quick in condemning the Alcatraz club. You clearly had a bad experience there, but we all did have one bad experience in some club, at one time or another. I know that I had several bad experiences at many different clubs, over the years. I suggest in the future, just tell us about your bad and good experiences and leave it at that. Thanks for taking the time to write the report.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1830727]Funny that you wrote a time frame in your post, can't think of one time a girl ever told me I was running out of time 'anywhere' in Thailand except the massage parlors.[/QUOTE]None of the Kinnaree girls mentioned anything about time. I guess it was my conditioned FKK mindset that if I go too far over 30 minutes I need to pay more. You're correct the only Thai girls I was on the clock with were the soapie girls.

[QUOTE=Adrena;1830715]I leave for Pattaya today. If anybody is in town, let me know.

Day 3:

Surprisingly, I woke up full of energy. I expected another hangover despite turning in early. It was 8 am When I was ready to explore some more of the city. Unfortunately, Pattaya doesn't wake up that early. I found only a few open breakfast shops and some haggard ladyboys who absolutely begged me to take them home. I wandered down the beach alone watching the waves and enjoying the tranquil water. It was a nice change of pace, and truly felt like the beginning to my vacation. A few hours slipped by while I walked casually down beach road. I stopped for coffee and watched beach going couples and Chinese tourists while the streets slowly came to life. I walked back to near W. S. And got lunch at a German shop on Second Road; it was delicious.

After lunch, I took a short nap and relaxed in the air conditioned hotel room. After getting ready for the evening, I set out to find dinner. Across from the entrance of Jasmine is a small restaurant which serves typical Thai food. I sat there and ordered. I didn't know at the same but a ladyboy bar is across from the restaurant. Two of them got into a fight while I was eating. It was quite entertaining watching them try to hit each other with shoes. Dinner and a show, what more could you ask for? I wandered down W. S. And stopped at a beer bar at the end of W. S. Where it meets Beach Road. Several girls vied for my attention and I was more than happy to oblige. Can you bar fine those girls? I never asked since they didn't give off that vibe. They seemed extremely friendly, even for Thai people, and went out of their way to make me laugh. I stayed there for almost three hours before the go-go's were open. Needless to say, but I was hammered drunk again..[/QUOTE]Adrena!

Thanks for the wonderful and helpful reports will help me in planning my trip to LOS coming at the end of the first week of Feb.

Look forward to hearing about your recent endeavors.

Have fun and stay safe!

TheTank

[QUOTE=Adrena;1830715]I leave for Pattaya today. If anybody is in town, let me know.

Day 3:

Walking down the street made my erection return. I felt like a 13 year-old boy again. Where even the wind got me hard. I ducked into another go-go hoping to relax mini-me. Unfortunately, I walked into the wildest go-go on W. S.
Stay tuned![/QUOTE]That is absolutely correct when you are young even the wind would make us hard now its cialis and Viagra and some other shit. Crazy times you are having enjoy have fun and hump more.

Cheers.

Hey guys,

Got back from my first trip to Thailand. Went from Jan 1-10.

Logistics:

Stayed at VT6. I used dance watchers but there are many other companies and I think may have better rooms sometimes. I recommend staying there. It is close to most things and on the beach. There is very modern mall right next door, has a full size grocery store and all the major stores: nike, sketchers, etc. So if forget something easy to find there. There is door man at elevator that sometimes checks the ID's of girls. My room was very clean, studio with everything I needed.

Used tan taxi service to get from airport. Also at airport bought a sim card for phone. Exchange money at airport in basement seem to be same exchange rate in Pattaya. Just take the escalator to basement floor. Very easy. I did this once. Other times I just used my ATM card. I opened a capital one 360 account and put in some money from my regular account before I left. No fees. I recommend getting this as protects yourself in case stolen card or whatever most of your money is in another account and no fees and it's free.

For flight I took Korean Air. I flew business class on A380. Nice sleep most of the way to Korea.

Girls:

I did not go to any massage places. I typically spent early afternoons on Soi 6. This is entire street full of bars. All have girls and few have ladyboys. I meet a few cool guys off Pattaya addicts they have list on line app for guys on the ground to meet up. Then I usually headed off to Walking Street. I typically went to go go's then to insomnia if did not have girl yet. Now here is the thing there. Do not stay in one place if you do not like vibe or girls. Just leave and go to another place. This goes for bars and go go's. I found during the week that sometimes the quality changes day to day. None have cover so no big deal. I went to 15 different go go's. Prices higher in go go's. So cannot really say one is better over another. It varies plus my taste is not your taste in women. All I can say is that Russian places are not good. Like in America for prices. However in clubs. I did find that there were too many guys. A little difficult to pick up girls. Not like HDR at all. In Soi 6 it was like 35 bucks to take girl in back for while. In go go it ranges from 100-200 for long term. In clubs I just paid 60 for long term. I did not go to LK metro so cannot comment on that. Did hang out on Soi 7-8 which is more open bars and some girls. But seem like less compared to Soi 6 and walking street and also huge issues with them having one two hot girls in front to get to come sit down and then find out you are not allowed to bar fine them, not the case on Soi 6.

I hooked for for first 5 nights with girls in clubs and Soi 6. But last 4 I wifed up with one I meet at the club. She took me to dinner some seafood place near Hollywood. Nothing in English. And went to club call Hollywood bowl. All locals. No working girls. Live stage with Asians playing American music. Interesting driving her motorbike home. Since I had zero experience on motorcycle before.

Food was good. Almost everything I ate was good. Including some street vendors. Felt safe for most part. I was alone for most of the time.

Compared to CR or any other place I seen it is just huge. Can't really compared. So many options all throughout the day. That's why I say if do not like what you see just keep moving. Even the smaller streets off beach road all have something, massage or bar with girls. The sheer size makes it hard to tell you where to go because so many options. Plus personal tastes.

For me I most likely will not be back. Not because I did not like the place. Just I do not think I am into Asian girls for most part. I took a while to find ones I was attracted too. I tend to like a "bigger girl" and that is not case there for most part. But this is just a personal thing. For everyone else I say you should go. It is fun and nothing like I ever seen in CR, Tijuana, or Venezuela. I am planning my next trip for Medellin and thinking I may enjoy that more for myself. If want any advice or questions on specifics just PM me.

[QUOTE=Adrena;1830715]Day 3:

SNIP

Needless to say, but I was hammered drunk again.[/QUOTE]Adrena you are surely having a ball as is evident from your well written reports.

Not my circus and not my monkey but here is s tiny piece of advice. It would help to keep the alcohol in check if you want to have fun over the entire trip duration (hopefully it is a week or longer). Also, it is more fun to drink once you have found some girls to drink with. Some GoGo bars are less welcoming to drunk patrons as it tends to cause inconvenience for other customers inside. I have seen bars evicting drunks from time to time in Pattaya. Finally, at least for me, too much drinking affects sex and my ability to enjoy it fully.

Of course, it is your life and you choose how you want to enjoy it. Have fun for rest of your trip. And keep reporting. I love reading these reports.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1831160]Adrena you are surely having a ball as is evident from your well written reports.

Not my circus and not my monkey but here is s tiny piece of advice. It would help to keep the alcohol in check if you want to have fun over the entire trip duration (hopefully it is a week or longer). Also, it is more fun to drink once you have found some girls to drink with. Some GoGo bars are less welcoming to drunk patrons as it tends to cause inconvenience for other customers inside. I have seen bars evicting drunks from time to time in Pattaya. Finally, at least for me, too much drinking affects sex and my ability to enjoy it fully.

Of course, it is your life and you choose how you want to enjoy it. Have fun for rest of your trip. And keep reporting. I love reading these reports.[/QUOTE]Blanquiceleste,

I completely agree with your assessment about drinking. I should add a bit more about my drunken state. I was a a fraternity man in college and before that I was military. Getting stupid drunk and keeping my bearings was something beat into me from a very young age, LOL.

Even though I was drunk, I was never out of control. I would never fight, start an argument, or act like a fool. I sincerely believe your advice is some of the best advice people can get when they visit a new place or a new environment. Funnily enough, you have hit on one of my pet peeves, and I'm glad you brought it up.

Please everybody, don't come to Pattaya (or anywhere else!) and expect for everybody to do things your own just because it is your vacation.

1. Don't get rude when you are drunk.

2. Don't argue over something stupid like 10 baht for a ride.

3. Don't expect everyone to speak English perfectly.

4. Don't order food in a special way that would even confuse cooks in your own country.

Last but not least, if you can't handle your alcohol, don't drink at all!

I landed in Pattaya last night, and the partying started already for trip number two! I feel great and I'm ready to rock! Only problem is, I am so excited that I only slept 4 hours last night. I need more, but my eyes just won't close!

I'll write day 4 after breakfast.

[QUOTE=Adrena;1830253]
Alcatraz: I went in and had a 5/10 girl begging me for a drink before I had even sat down. I was drunk and it was my first night. What a huge mistake. After I ordered it, she disappeared. It sat there until after my beer was finished. They charged me for it. I paid without complaint and left. I did not return. Don't go there. It'll leave a bad taste in your mouth.[/QUOTE]Don't blame this on the club. One thing that upset me on my first LOS trip was that after I would buy a girl a LD, it seemed she would soon get up to go dance on the line. I expected, as partial cost of the drinks, that she would sit with me, and as long as I kept buying she would continue to sit and talk. Well, I soon found out it doesn't work that way! When her set is up, she has to go dance unless you BF her. And once she leaves you to dance, some other dude can pick her up off the line and BF her before she can come back to you. It has happened to me where I was clear I wanted to BF a girl but when she left to dance, a guy told the mamasan he wanted her, and he got her! He who is first with the cash gets the girl. If you want to sit and talk and drink or whatever with a girl you plan to BF LT but are not ready to leave yet, go on and pay the BF. She will still leave to dance, but she will be yours. For popular girls, you can even come into the club soon after it opens, pay the fine, then come back later (even the next day) to pick her up.

So don't take too personally.

Please forgive the typos and sentence structure problems. I am not editing my work before putting it up on the forum. I'm literally typing and hitting send.

(I'm currently sitting at a breakfast café in Pattaya, writing about last year's trip. When I finish this report, I'll start on the one I'm living right now. I hope you are all enjoying the report; I'm having a blast writing it. At the end of the series, I'll break down the money spent each day and lay out thoughts for any lurkers wanting info for their first trip.).

Day 4:

My hangover returned with a vengeance! It made my entire morning seem like a struggle to survive. Noises sounded like bombs, and lights looked like the sun.

My hangover cure consisted of pitiful groans and coffee while I made plans on keeping my naughty promise to get two girls that day. Soi 6 hadn't been sufficiently studied since the first day, and I was eager to see if it held up to the hype.

First order of business was breakfast. I walked down a busy Second Street until I found a hotel serving breakfast, where I enjoyed bacon and eggs for 130 baht. While waiting on my meal, I was surprised to see diamond shuffling down the stairs. I guess she had found another customer from the night before. She smiled when she saw me, and graciously accepted my offered to buy her breakfast. I fully expected her to politely refuse, and was stunned when she said yes. Her catch from the prior evening had been less than a gentleman and kicked her out instead of ending the encounter on a high note. Her demeanor had completely changed in the morning light, but her cute looks and smile stayed the same. When I met her, she was perky and on top of the world. During breakfast, she was subdued and down-to-earth. The first night seemed like a fantasy, the breakfast seemed like chatting with an old friend. It is easy to understand how mongers fall in love with Thai girls. After breakfast, we went our separate ways, but it wasn't the last time I spoke with her. Awkward side note, I am horrible with names, and it shows since I can't remember hers.

I spent the rest of the morning and early afternoon napping and getting an awesome foot massage; both were time well spent! It was after 4 pm When I finally decided to try my hand at Soi 6. I zoomed down there on a baht bus and paced the street looking for a piece of perfection. Sadly, I was greeted by ladyboys and empty bar stools. It seemed like all of the girls were busy doing something else, but the scene gradually changed over the next hour while I waited at a nearby beer bar. Girls took their places outside and warmed up their voices in preparation for the familiar yells of "welcome, you come here" and similar statements.

I ventured down the road again when I felt my underwear brush my balls and wake up mini-me. I solemnly swore to never take Cialis again. It came in handy though when one particular girl caught my eye. She had a cute body and big-breasts. Her only downside seemed to be bushy eyebrows. They were well-kept caterpillars resting on her forehead. I looked past them, and saw a girl who would be willing to please, so we climbed the stairs together. A quick shower and forgettable fuck later, I was out 1300 baht and out of the building. It would be nice to say I was a porn star, but the truth is, I vaguely remember being bored with her performance. Star-fishes are memorable for how bad they are, but this girl can't even be remembered for that.

It was the second girl on Soi 6 that day which was worth remembering. She rode me like a champ and left me begging for more.

Stay tuned for how that happened!

[URL]http://pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/220719/5-year-bar-closure-warning-issued-at-pattaya-police-meeting-with-bar-operators/[/URL]#comments.

All gogo dancers now need to be over 20?

[QUOTE]5-year Bar closure warning issued at Pattaya Police meeting with bar operators

13 January, 2016

A meeting was held at Pattaya Police Station on Wednesday Afternoon led by the Provincial Police Commander, who warned Pattaya Bar Owners and Managers that if they or their venue breaks the law they will be closed for 5 years.

The warning was given by Police Major General Ampon, following the recent Facebook video of an assault of a French Tourist on Walking Street. Those who attended the meeting were told that under no circumstances will violence towards patrons be tolerated, despite the level of aggression they show towards the Bar and their staff.

In addition, any bar found to admit customers under the age of 20 or employ staff under the age of 20 or if any illegal drugs are found inside their respective venue, the 5-year closure order will be imposed.

The General stressed that security cameras at their venue should cover the interior and exterior and must be in working order at all times. To deal with any aggressive customers, individual Police Officers will be assigned to each bar and a direct line to that officer will lead to a quick response from Police who will deal with any customer problems from now on.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1831231][URL]http://pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/220719/5-year-bar-closure-warning-issued-at-pattaya-police-meeting-with-bar-operators/[/URL]#comments.

All gogo dancers now need to be over 20?[/QUOTE]Correct. My girlfriend who is a supervisor in one says:
I have to go meeting with police.. Every month. And now have lady dance 20 up 18 years old no have anymore. Every month there will be a letter of invitation to the conference. Yes can't be 18 years old do working bar.

Which is funny because Thais always had to be 20 to enter a disco. So I guess you guys who like to seek out 18 year olds better hit the internet.

I was thinking that the 18-20 year olds would go work in the soapies and other massage places throughout the city. I assume those are not considered bars. Maybe go to Phuket and Bangkok (not sure what min age are in those cities)?

[QUOTE=Adrena;1831164]Blanquiceleste,

I landed in Pattaya last night, and the partying started already for trip number two! I feel great and I'm ready to rock! Only problem is, I am so excited that I only slept 4 hours last night. I need more, but my eyes just won't close!

I'll write day 4 after breakfast.[/QUOTE]I will be in Pattaya on Sat for a week. You don't seem to have Private Messging facility. PM me if you get it. Will be nice to meet other BMs.

[QUOTE=FLHawk;1831165]When her set is up, she has to go dance unless you BF her. And once she leaves you to dance, some other dude can pick her up off the line and BF her before she can come back to you. It has happened to me where I was clear I wanted to BF a girl but when she left to dance, a guy told the mamasan he wanted her, and he got her! [/QUOTE]This happened to me only 1 time in the countless number of nights I have spent drinking with girls in Go Go's and when it did happen, I did not like it, and crossed that particular girl off my list permanently. Like you said, the girls have to go back on stage for their set, unless a barfine was mutually agreed upon, but I expect a girl I am spending time with, buying drinks for, and contemplating a barfine with to come back to me afterward her set unless something else was mentioned and agreed upon. Most girls will say "I will come back after my set? You wait for me?" or something like that. The one time a girl left me hanging was the last time she ever got a drink out of me.

On a slightly peripherally related matter; many, many times I have made dates in advance during the daytime to meet my regular girls and barfine them later on said night. My girls always wait for me, but some girls will accept drinks from other paying customers until I arrive. Then when I show up we exchange knowing glances and she extricates herself from the customer she is entertaining within a few minutes. I never ask if they informed their drink buying customer that they are unavailable that night. That would have been the right thing to do. Other times my girls do not get dressed for the stage at all and wait in the wings until I arrive. I think this is the classier approach.

I remember one humorous night in What's Up A Go Go. I arrived around 11:30 pm to see the Princess. We had hung out together earlier in the afternoon and had made plans to see each again later that night. She is a very popular girl for obvious reasons. When I walked into the bar I saw a young Japanese customer sitting right beneath her feat shoveling baht tips to her as she danced. The bar was packed and the only available seating was right next to this guy. I sat down, gave a knowing look to Nut and she nodded almost imperceptibly. Then after her set she came straight over to me to the Japanese guy's apparent complete surprise. A short time later she went to change into her street clothes. I didn't even buy her a drink. The Japanese guy then remarked in English, "'you are a lucky guy, she is a beautiful girl. " I smiled and replied that luck had nothing to do with it.

BTW, this is the same girl that I bumped into by complete surprise in Sapphire in September 2015. I hadn't seen the Princess since Fall 2012. She had been engaged to a British guy and had been living in Birmingham or somewhere. I spent the next 5 out my 7 nights in Pattaya with her. She is a real nice girl, a looker; always fashionably dressed out in public, so prim and proper in the bar, but wild in bed. It was great spending time with her again. It was one of the many highlights from my Fall 2015 trip.

[QUOTE=Adrena;1831191]Please forgive the typos and sentence structure problems. I am not editing my work before putting it up on the forum. I'm literally typing and hitting send.

(I'm currently sitting at a breakfast caf in Pattaya, writing about last year's trip. When I finish this report, I'll start on the one I'm living right now. I hope you are all enjoying the report; I'm having a blast writing it. At the end of the series, I'll break down the money spent each day and lay out thoughts for any lurkers wanting info for their first trip.).

Day 4:

My hangover returned with a vengeance! It made my entire morning seem like a struggle to survive. Noises sounded like bombs, and lights looked like the sun.

My hangover cure consisted of pitiful groans and coffee while I made plans on keeping my naughty promise to get two girls that day. Soi 6 hadn't been sufficiently studied since the first day, and I was eager to see if it held up to the hype..[/QUOTE]Hi Adrena,

Been reading your posts and they are great!! Got a lot of information to plan my upcoming trip to Pattaya during the next month. Do the hotels charge a joiner fee? Because I was told that they charge 1000 per joiner? And usually what is the bar fine range?

Thanks for the very informative reports. Really enjoyed reading them.

Cheers!

Reached UTP around 4 and than next 1. 5 hour. Huge like at immigration. Finally reached Pattaya around 7 and for my surprise my hotel dint pick the phone. Now thinking where to go and finally found a nice hotel Seaview costing 1200 baht Per day including BF.

Time for action.

Peppermint. Nice place with few good looking girls but not all and considering first drink of the day dint bother. Next what's up gogo again seems too early to reach hardly 4-5 people sitting. Next the moon. Totally empty and 3 girls dancing on the pole. Now Baccara here the scene was good. Many top less girls few of them looking nice to great. Buy one drink for a girl and she sit next to me but the I was feeling damn tired so though not to waste my juice. Directly go to insomnia what the fuck it was almost 50% occupied with 9. 5-1 ratio of man to woman.

Seems day is going to be dried.

Again go back to Baccara and to my bad luck, the previous girl is already gone.

It was already 2.30 am so though to go back hotel and sleep. While walking back one cute little Thai came to me and start talking. She wants to go. Wow money discussed and direct action at room. Apart from the usual action she was too tight which doubled my efforts.

Time to sleep no more action today.

All the go go. Usual drink cost 80-150 baht and 150-300 lady drink. Barfing was 800-1500 depending on the time of the day.

So just one pop other night and not much action. I woke up early and went to pizza house near by to refuel. Time to try another place. Went to So i6 wow at 2 pm this place is full. Went to one gogo girls with tiny tits and she come clean my face with wet tissue. And drink. Not much to my luck. Than ruby club, girls are damn but all busy, had one beer and now red corner / point girls are OK.

Next route 69 sat inside one but girl came and started talking. Wow she almost clean my John and start playing around. Ordered for her and I have access to her pussy. She was nice shaven pussy wow. I asked the charges. It's 1300 upstairs action and LT 800 bar fine and 2000 for girls. Now I barfine her and strategy to hotel. It's around 7. In the room she was like a tigress. Access to each hole and fucked in almost all the position which she enjoyed too. First pop and she want to sleep. OK. I also take a power nap. Now after sleep it's just 9. 30 she comes back say she has blood in pushy and can't fuck, want to go back. What the fuck. But than she says 'don't pay me money as I spoiled your mood' ohh seems she is right. I pay her the agreed amount and let her go. It's just 10. Now head to was and go to windmill for some nice actiin. Girls are nude taking shower eating each other and what not. After two drink next is airport go go. Girls are 7-9 but none to my taste. Now I am feeling too drunk already. Next is sensation. OMG OMG what beauty almost all the girls are 8-10 bful young. Thinking whom to bar fine and a waitress comes and start chatting. She was better than the girls on stage. I persuade her and she is ready. She asked 1000 BF and 1000 for company. No discussion about the game. Okk let's take a risk. I barfine her and we go Ibar. Drinks music and she is ready for action. In the room she was the best body I saw in Thailand. Wow fucked her hard and one pop in morning. Pay her 2000. And she leaves. Second day was better.

Most hotels in Pattaya do not charge joiner fee. But some hotels do. Therefore, it is better to check before checking in. You can check more information on.

[URL]http://www.gfriendlyhotels.com/guest-friendly-hotels-pattaya.html.[/URL] The information provided is fairly accurate. So far as the bar fine is concerned, they greatly vary.

Typical beer bars and there are plenty of them, have lower bar fines ranging from 500 to 750 Bhat, whereas go go bars will have higher bar fines.

It is always advisable to check before picking up the girl. You can find more information on other threads on Pattaya including go go bars and bar fines.

[QUOTE=Sudumalli;1832068]Hi Adrena,

Been reading your posts and they are great!! Got a lot of information to plan my upcoming trip to Pattaya during the next month. Do the hotels charge a joiner fee? Because I was told that they charge 1000 per joiner? And usually what is the bar fine range?

Thanks for the very informative reports. Really enjoyed reading them.

Cheers![/QUOTE]

Pattaya Trip Report. Day 3 of 5.

Well, to begin, this is a much delayed continuation of a report from my trip to Thailand last November. I had spent 3 nights in Phuket and had flown to Pattaya for 5 nights. I posted my reports on Phuket and my first two nights in Pattaya last November. Issues got in the way upon my return (nothing bad) and I just never got around to writing anything about my last three nights in Pattaya. Unfortunately, I have had to rely on some sparse notes and a failing memory to generate the reports, but I what I write should be fairly accurate, though an encounter or two might be missing. Please accept my apologies for being so late. Note that Day 3 starts on Thursday, November 19,2015 (I think.).

Day 3 - Thursday.

I don't remember what I did Thursday afternoon. I probably went to Soi 6, but I have no records. If I bar fined someone, I have no idea. Bumme. That night I found BR (Bangla Rd) to be very busy, as Thailand was now close to high season. Even at 8 PM, there were many buses hauling in those beeping Chinese tourists. There was some good FL (free lance) activity, but I did not indulge. I ate at the New York Diner on WS and watched the people go by. This diner is becoming a favorite of mine. It had rained a bit during the day and the air was relatively cool (relatively not freaking hot).

I then went to Sweethearts to check things out. There were maybe 15 decent girls there. The bar fire was from 800 to 1000 baht. I don't know what the girls charged. I next went to the Peppermint for their party, celebrating a bunch of years in business. They celebrated by roasting a pig and serving various other food items. My special relationship with Luk, the mamasan, was paying off. When the food was ready, she came by and told me to go out front and get some; that I would be the first. OK, so I go out, but the guy there tells me no, to go back inside. I told him Luk told me to come out to eat. He gets a bit rude and says for me to go back inside. OK, I go back in. Luk walks by and sees me with no food and asked why I have no food. I said the guy told me told me to come back inside. She grabs me and leads me outside to the food, hands me a plate, and tells me to help myself. The guy watches this and looks away, letting me be. The owner of the club later comes over and shakes my hand, and I even get a drink on the house! Of course, I am interested in the beautiful Fon, #8, but I am too late. She had just got barfined. Beep! She did bring Luk over for a few minutes. Beautiful girl. She did not remember me, and her English was still bad, but oh well. I was slightly upset at Luk as I had told her to hold Fon for me. Oh well, the guy who comes up with the money first wins! I did ask for their current rates again and it was 800 baht for the bar fine and from 3000ST and, if my notes are to believed, 5000 baht for LT. That is a bit higher than it was last May. That 800 rate might be 1000 before midnight I don't remember. Either way, the girls there are expensive!

I spent quite a while at Peppermint, throwing money around it seems on the girls, Whan, Luck, etc. When you buy, people come over to feed. But it was ok. I finally left to stop the hemorrhaging and went to Wildcats and found nothing special. I found Crazy Horse was very busy at midnight. Some of the girls there were putting on a lesbian scene. Certainly there were some cute girls there, but no one caught my eye so I headed over to Sensations at 12:30 AM. It is a large bar and there were over 20 cute girls on stage, some of whom were really hot. Unfortunately, the music was super loud and I couldn't stand the volume. I went to Sky Fall. They had some super cute girls, and I met Ning. She wanted a BF of 1000 baht and 3000/5000ST / LT, pretty much the same as Peppermint. She had dark brown hair with copper highlights and was super cute (a 9?) with a matching personality. I decided to get her out of that noisy environment and take her to my hotel for ST. She was super tight and vocal, and simple beautiful to look at in bed. The door man at the hotel who took her ID said she was 21. I think I was attracted to her in particular as she looked like she had a bit of Japanese in her, and we all know Japanese porn stars are the best! But yes, she was awesome and I had a great time and while too expensive, did not disappoint.

So, Thursday ended on a good note, but I wish I could remember what I may have done that afternoon! But to summarize what I remember, I got together with the super cutie Ning from Skyfall for 1000 baht BF and 3000 baht for an hour. Expensive, but she was a great girl.

Hey,

The hotel I'm staying in doesn't have a joiner fee at all. In fact, they have been overly welcoming of girls. I found a girl last night using wechat (Chinese version of facebook) and she came directly to my room and knocked on the door. I didn't even have to meet her at the front desk. I'm sure other hotels have different policies, but hotels won't question any random lady hanging from your arm. They seem to know what's up.

As far as barfines, I haven't paid one yet. I've seen signs saying 1000 before midnight and 800 after. That appears to be pretty standard.

On an interesting side note, I had a wonderful afternoon with a beautiful girl for 1000 baht short time, and the next night I saw her dancing in a go-go charging double plus barfine for the same price. She was making extra money on the side during the day and then go-go dancing at night. It made me realize that every price here is subjective to terms and conditions.

I'll be hitting Soi 6 today. I'll let everyone know what shenanigans I discover while walking down that wonderful street!

Thank you for the info. I got 2 hotels and looked up both in the link you provided. Both seem to be girl friendly.

[QUOTE=FunExplorer;1832269]Most hotels in Pattaya do not charge joiner fee. But some hotels do. Therefore, it is better to check before checking in. You can check more information on.

[URL]http://www.gfriendlyhotels.com/guest-friendly-hotels-pattaya.html.[/URL] The information provided is fairly accurate. So far as the bar fine is concerned, they greatly vary.

Typical beer bars and there are plenty of them, have lower bar fines ranging from 500 to 750 Bhat, whereas go go bars will have higher bar fines.

It is always advisable to check before picking up the girl. You can find more information on other threads on Pattaya including go go bars and bar fines.[/QUOTE]

Thank you for the info. Looking forward to my visit soon.

[QUOTE=Adrena;1832418]Hey,

The hotel I'm staying in doesn't have a joiner fee at all. In fact, they have been overly welcoming of girls. I found a girl last night using wechat (Chinese version of facebook) and she came directly to my room and knocked on the door. I didn't even have to meet her at the front desk. I'm sure other hotels have different policies, but hotels won't question any random lady hanging from your arm. They seem to know what's up.

As far as barfines, I haven't paid one yet. I've seen signs saying 1000 before midnight and 800 after. That appears to be pretty standard.

On an interesting side note, I had a wonderful afternoon with a beautiful girl for 1000 baht short time, and the next night I saw her dancing in a go-go charging double plus barfine for the same price. She was making extra money on the side during the day and then go-go dancing at night. It made me realize that every price here is subjective to terms and conditions.

I'll be hitting Soi 6 today. I'll let everyone know what shenanigans I discover while walking down that wonderful street![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Adrena;1832418]Hey,

The hotel I'm staying in doesn't have a joiner fee at all. In fact, they have been overly welcoming of girls. I found a girl last night using wechat (Chinese version of facebook) and she came directly to my room and knocked on the door. I didn't even have to meet her at the front desk. I'm sure other hotels have different policies, but hotels won't question any random lady hanging from your arm. They seem to know what's up.
[/QUOTE]I tried WeChat while I was in Pattaya last year. It was an avalanche of ladyboys. Just curious, how did you come across this chick and be able to confirm she was the real deal? Seems kind of risky to have her come right to your room without a public meeting to confirm she was who she claimed to be.

Since we will be busy overnight and sometimes in afternoon mongering but there is a limit to it we can do in a day. Rest of the day we can visit nice places in and around Pattaya and indulge in some sports, activities, scuba, sight seeing, etc. Is there any reliable agency available so that we can pre book online a cute English speaking Thai / others girl as a guide who knows all places well and help us with these extra curricular activities?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Raju1974;1833510]Since we will be busy overnight and sometimes in afternoon mongering but there is a limit to it we can do in a day. Rest of the day we can visit nice places in and around Pattaya and indulge in some sports, activities, scuba, sight seeing, etc. Is there any reliable agency available so that we can pre book online a cute English speaking Thai / others girl as a guide who knows all places well and help us with these extra curricular activities?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]In every good hotel they have counter of travel agencies. They can help you with budget trip. Secondly there are many lady drivers who drive bike or tuk tuk (I met last day a very beautiful girl who was running the tuk tuk). You just go out of your room and you will find many.

I had a friend from the states in town and took him out to all the good places (actually all the naughty places). I wasn't really looking everynight because I have a few regulars that I could count on. However, I would still flirt, buy drinks, and get numbers from new girls that I liked. So two days ago, I decided that I wanted to try a new girl. I called a bunch of them. Figured whoever, responded first with the best attitude wins.

One girl was bullshitting, talking about she wants to go drink with her friend later tonight. It was only 7. 30 pm and the night was still young. I told her, you can come here and make some money, or you can wait for tonight and go with your friend and spend your own money. She was thinking about it because it was quiet on the phone. After a pause, I interrupted her thoughts and asked again, you want to come to my room? Ummm, ummm. Ok nevermind, (I made up her mind for her) go with your friend tonight. Deleted her number. Next one answered the phone, we got cut off after 5-10 seconds. Called back, can't reach her. Called a few more girls. No answers. OK, time to eat and then go find one.

An hour later received two calls and a message. One of the ladies I met at the club wanted to come over. I said, ok, come about 10.30, agreed. Now I was all set. Then the second call came in and she was willing to come over. But it was too late. The message was from one who works at a bar, and she asked me 'if' I can pay the barfine? Now, this one lives less than 5 minutes from me, so not tonight. I figure, why pay her barfine when I can always have her come over after work especially since she lives so close.

Now I am having whiskey and coke and waiting for my lady to arrive. I called her at 10.25 to make sure she is on the way. She is leaving now and should arrive in 20 minutes (lives up the hill in Pratamnak). She shows up looking fairly pretty and thick too (not skinny and not fat, but bigger than most Thai women. Just the way I like them with some butt). This one I honestly couldn't remember how she looked when I called. I was probably drunk when I took her number. Luckily when I added her into my smart phone, I could at least see her face on one of the apps but I didn't remember her at all. Anyway, she arrived, looked good to me and game on. Money wasn't discussed. I figured we could go a round or two and see what happens. If all goes well she can stay the night. First round was great. Kissing, sucking her huge nipples, then BBBJ, and ball licking for a good long time. I told her I will cum in her mouth soon if she keeps sucking like that. She said ok. Then I said, if I cum now, I still want boom boom for round two. She said ok again. I was thinking damn this girl is special. Instead, I decided to grab a condom and get to work. When the time came, I finished in the condom not her mouth. We took showers, I grabbed a beer and relaxed. She only drank juice and water. She said no alcohol tonight because she drank too much the day before. The thing I liked during the relax period was that she sat naked with me in bed. None of this wrapped in a towel stuff.

On to the second round. It was even better that the first. She got out some strawberry lube and used it to jerk me and suck me. Hey hey now, I'm liking this. Then she started rimming me. Sucked me for a long while again, then round two, many positions. She offered me her ass. OK. I'm not going to turn that big round thing down. Applied some lube, and started slow. She held it and slowly lowered her ass onto my pole. Soon after, I turned her over doggie style and went to town. It was pretty damn good. I wanted more of the good stuff so I took off the condom (using a tissue LOL), put on a new one, and pounded her. The harder I pounded the louder she got. Finished round two. Both of us were tired and sweating.
Showered again, more beer for me, and water for her. She thanked me for the good sex. I laughed and said, no thank you.

As we relaxed, she made no indication to leave, and I wasn't going to send her away either. A hour or more later she wanted round 3. I gave her some and after she came I stopped. I was tapped out and tired, and low on juice. It must have been about 5 am by now. We are both night owls.

Hungry, we went to get breakfast at McDonalds just 3 minutes away by bike. Came back to the room to eat. Then sleep. Woke up about 11.30 am and went at it again. We showered and she prepared to leave. I handed her 1000 baht and said, this is for you. I also handed her five 100 baht notes folded up and told her this is for you to get some more food. So 1500 total. She didn't even count it. She just put it in her purse, said thank you, gave me a kiss, and left. I went right back to bed. She wore me out.

I forgot to mention some things. During our second shower, she mentioned that the shower floor was dirty. The edges showed signs of soap build-up. I said, yeah I will get to it later. I got out to dry off and left her in the bathroom. She was taking a longer time than usual. Later, I found out why. She had cleaned the shower. What a good woman. Then the next day, she cleaned the bathroom sink and the kitchen sink. I'm looking forward to seeing her again!

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1833607]I decided to grab a condom and get to work.[/QUOTE]When did you start using condoms?

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1833607]
I forgot to mention some things. During our second shower, she mentioned that the shower floor was dirty. The edges showed signs of soap build-up. I said, yeah I will get to it later. I got out to dry off and left her in the bathroom. She was taking a longer time than usual. Later, I found out why. She had cleaned the shower. What a good woman. Then the next day, she cleaned the bathroom sink and the kitchen sink. I'm looking forward to seeing her again![/QUOTE]Great report! Thanks for sharing. The girl sounds like a keeper! You mentioned you met her at "the club". Was it Ibar / Insomnia?

I came to Pattaya a year ago, my trip report was rather good, but I've had nothing but disappointment since I've been here last night. After being in the PH for 2 weeks, I was excited to come to Thailand because the women are hotter and the service better. But things have changed, in a year! I hit up a lot of bars, particularly Skyfall to see if a particular girl was still working here, apparently she does, but was on vacation, she's working tonight, so I will return. The quality of girls here is pretty good, I stayed for a bit, but wasn't interested in anyone, so I left.

Went to living dolls, the place was sort of empty, and the mamasan kept bringing me girls without me asking, so this place is rather pushy. They did a show on stage, and the main girl had a nice body, I was thinking about having come over for a drink, but when she came out, she was already occupied by another customer, and upon closer inspection her face was pretty old.

Hit up ibar and Insomnia club, it was dead, no one was in here. They told me to come back around 1 am for it to be packed, which I will.

Go to Baccara, wow the selection here is great, the place is packed. Many beauties are here. I met a nice korean guy and showed him around for the night. I wanted to buy a drink for a few girls, but they kept getting snatched up quickly. I finally was able to get a girl of my choice, bought her a drink, her name is "donut", but she drank half her drink and got back on stage within 5 minutes. Wow, these girls are only interested in lady drinks, and not into barfining. What the hell? I never had this problem anywhere before, women were eager to leave with me all the time, now I'm getting hustled for drinks. Barfine is 800,3000ST (1 hour or 1 cum, which ever comes first) and 5000 LT (until the morning), probably could have negotiated for lower, but once I heard the prices, I made a face. It was too packed and busy, the women were in control so I left

Hit up the glass house. The selection wasn't great, nor was the place busy. Saw a cute young girl, her name is Ying. Barfine is 1000,3000ST, 5000 LT. You have got to be kidding me right? When have these prices skyrocketed? She doesn't like to kiss, so I said goodbye to her. My Korean friend is getting hit up by everyone, I'm starting to notice a trend here. I think with an influx of east asians travelling, they are buying nonstop lady drinks for girls without barfining. I saw large groups of Koreans buying bottle service and throwing money around.

The korean is into russians, so we hit up mouling rouge, nothing good, left within 1 minute.

I took him back to skyfall, but by the time we get there, it was about 1 am, and most of the best looking girls were gone. None of the girls I wanted was here, or they were occupied.

Left and went to ibar, packed. Lots of women here, and it not enough guys. I saw this gorgeous woman, her name is Sophia, and she looks like a slim dark version of Tera Patrick. ST is 2000, and she only kisses. I leave my korean friend and we head back to my hotel. We ran into one of her friends so we stop for some drinks at this little drink stand and she feeds me some spicy ass thai soup. About an hour later we went back to my hotel, we lay in bed, and she asks for the money upfront. I said no. She gets up and leaves, just like that. WTF? I was pretty drunk and tired at this point and I woke up this morning horny as hell.

I use wechat to find some morning free lancers. I'm getting some ridiculous prices, but find a pretty girl for 1500, kisses, BBBJ, and CIM. I asked her several times if she's a woman or lady boy, she confirmed to me that she is a woman. She comes to my place at 1030 am, and she doesn't look as good as her pictures, but whatever, she'll do. Her english is awful, she's from Laos. She's slim, with very small boobs. She asks for the money upfront, I said no. So she starts with a BBBJ, and then we kiss for a little bit. She then tells me that she's on her period and can't fuck. I said what? Fuck no. She said I can fuck her in the ass, I said no. Now I'm starting to get suspicious, I said let me see your pussy. She refuses, she saying something that I can't understand, about blood going everywhere. I look at her crotch and don't see any visible bulge, she claims left and right that she's a woman. I told her to get the fuck out. I was getting heated at this moment, if she is a lady boy, the rage in side of me would have been pretty violent and I may have done something I would have regretted, I maintained my composure. She's still swearing she's a woman, but I can't deal with it if she's a lady boy, so I let her leave without finding out for sure. Her wechat ID is: warine123

If anyone knows she is or isn't, or can confirm for me, I'd appreciate it. I've calmed down a lot by now, and its not like I purposefully seeked a lady boy, I may have been decieted. If she is, she's playing a dangerous game, especially since I told her that I don't want a lady boy. I ended up just jerking myself to porn, save myself some money hahaha

All in all, I'm not having a great experience my second time back. I have 2 more nights here and 3 nights in Bangkok, hopefully it gets better. Has the scene changed this much in a year? I'm sad if it has.

Blah. I actually don't want to know. I'm going to say that she's a woman with a chance that she was a lady boy. It's best to leave some things uncertain right?

Thomkat don't give up. We've all had nights like this in the sin city. You just need to soldier on and good things will happen.

Patts hasn't changed all that much, besides gogog prices which are constantly going up. But they are negotiable. Don't forget that.

And if you really find it too outrageous stick to Ibar. Also, limit the alcohol intake when on the hunt. I've found that most of my bad choices were made when I had too much to drink.

If you get tired of WS Soi 6 is also good. Some gems at Ruby Club who are very friendly.

[QUOTE=ThomKatt;1833931]Blah. I actually don't want to know. I'm going to say that she's a woman with a chance that she was a lady boy. It's best to leave some things uncertain right?[/QUOTE]Yes tough to tell. She does look good. I added her on wechat and she has been sending me messages and sexy pics.

But a girl that hot wanting to come over for 1500ST at the drop of a dime with a guy she hasn't even seen in person. If it's too good to be true it probably is.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1833976]Yes tough to tell. She does look good. I added her on wechat and she has been sending me messages and sexy pics.

But a girl that hot wanting to come over for 1500ST at the drop of a dime with a guy she hasn't even seen in person. If it's too good to be true it probably is.[/QUOTE]Thanks Unc, you always know how to make a boy feel good. Haha I don't think she's THAT hot, her pics make her a 7. 5, in person she was a 6, pushing 7 (she didn't bother to doll herself up, she took an hour to wake up and get moving. Also, I sent her pics of myself, which a lot of the girls asked for before negotiating). The prices I was getting quoted were between 1500-4000ST, so it's within range. Apparently she has a real job working nights, but I couldn't understand what she was saying.

I'm usually pretty good at spotting lady boys, this one had me fooled pretty damn good (if she is one). Going to try round 2 tonight, hopefully with better luck. I hope my girl is still working at skyfall, I hope I see her tonight. I've been reading a few reports, apparently the prices I was quoted are normal, looking at my report last year, everything was about 1000 thb cheaper. Damn.

[QUOTE=ThomKatt;1833993]Thanks Unc, you always know how to make a boy feel good. Haha I don't think she's THAT hot, her pics make her a 7. 5, in person she was a 6, pushing 7 (she didn't bother to doll herself up, she took an hour to wake up and get moving. Also, I sent her pics of myself, which a lot of the girls asked for before negotiating). The prices I was getting quoted were between 1500-4000ST, so it's within range. Apparently she has a real job working nights, but I couldn't understand what she was saying.

I'm usually pretty good at spotting lady boys, this one had me fooled pretty damn good (if she is one). Going to try round 2 tonight, hopefully with better luck. I hope my girl is still working at skyfall, I hope I see her tonight. I've been reading a few reports, apparently the prices I was quoted are normal, looking at my report last year, everything was about 1000 thb cheaper. Damn.[/QUOTE]I tried to add her too. She ask me for 1000 Baht for short time.

Have to say my ladyboy radar do go off, and that's usually correct. If I was in Pattaya now, I would avoid her just from the wechat photos.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1833639]When did you start using condoms?[/QUOTE]You are funny E. You know I came here with 200. And I had my buddy bring me 50 more since I was running low.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1833680]Great report! Thanks for sharing. The girl sounds like a keeper! You mentioned you met her at "the club". Was it Ibar / Insomnia?[/QUOTE]Yes.

She is great in the sack. But talks to much sometimes. LOL.

We missed meeting and going out on your last trip. You will have to let me know when you plan on coming again.

[QUOTE=BangkokBull;1834026]I tried to add her too. She ask me for 1000 Baht for short time.

Have to say my ladyboy radar do go off, and that's usually correct. If I was in Pattaya now, I would avoid her just from the wechat photos.[/QUOTE]I'm generally pretty good at spotting too, but your radar is going off because it's better to be safe than sorry, whereas I'm still not sure. There's really no way to find out either.

Second night, after a lousy 24 hours, I wanted to make it a good night. I decided to head into skyfall to see if my girl was still working there, and it doesn't seem so. I went there at 8 pm and they took their sweet ass time to bring the models out, it was a little bit past 9 pm and I decided to not wait. I must say, the girls here are pretty fucking hot, I might come back tonight because I've reached a milestone in my life and I want a hottie to celebrate with.

Head over to peppermint, selection wasn't very good. Had one drink, saw two rotations. I left. The streets were clogged with Chinese tourists and chinese tour groups. Like wtf guys, why would you bring your children here? Between the lady boys, the peeks into the gogos, and the girls dancing on stage in the open bars, this is NOT family friendly. It's no longer a convenient spot for pussy, it's a tourist trap.

I didn't want to be disappointed again, so I took Uncle Volodya's advice and head over to Pattaya 6, targeting Ruby Club. Ok, this street is pretty dead, which is a good and bad thing. I walked the entire street, the selection wasn't very good either, about the same as Peppermint. It being dead means you won't have top talent, but it also means you get all of the attention. I decided to head into Ruby club hoping to be surprised by something. The girls here were ok at best, not the typical stunners I hunt for. But I just want to have fun, maybe someone here can provide it? Anyways, this pretty girl name Mimi starts talking to me, but the place started to get busy, so she was occupied for a bit. Another girl comes and talks to me, but I wasnt interested. It was about 11 pm by now and the place gets filled. I was pretty interested in Mimi, so I start asking her if she would kiss, BBBJ, and CIM. She said yes to all. Her face is pretty, about 7. 5, fake Dcup boobs, and a tight bony butt. Bar fine shrinks as the night goes on, so it was 500. The girl wants 2000 LT (it's supposed to be until the morning time, but I like sleeping alone, so I always negotiate for at least two shots, this usually takes about 4-5 hours). You can have action on sight for 1000ST, with a 300 barfine. I opted to LT as there's plenty of value there.

We start drinking and then head out. We grab food, she takes me to a hole in the wall and orders for me, fantastic food. Back at the hotel, we take a bath together where she starts a BBBJ. Then onto the bed for more BBBJ, and then I make out with her while we get into mish. Pound her while she soaks me. Finish.

Normally I need to recharge to go a second time, but recently I can get back up again and go. However, I jerked it to porn this morning and then again in the afternoon, so there's no way this was going to happen, but we try anyways. It was hard enough to get hard, she helps anyway she could, she starts a BBBJ and now I'm up. Fingerbang her to get her wet, she soaks fast and easily, tastes sweet too. Slip the hat on, and get into mish, and pound away. After a while, I knew I was not going to nut for hours, so we quit and go to bed. I tried fucking her several times in the morning, but she was dead asleep, until 10 am, I fingerbang her to wake her up, and then slip another hat on. Bang her from behind lying down so I can see that beautiful tight bum. Ready to blast in her mouth, but she's dreading it. I skullfuck her, but she's scared I'm going to firehose her throat and pulls it out when she thinks I'm going to release. I feel bad for her, so I jerk myself, but don't tell her when I'm cumming and unleash all over her face and hair, to her dismay haha. She cleans herself up by taking a bath after I took a shower. Most girls I know are quick to leave after the deed is done, but she was willing to stay and chat for a bit, but all I wanted was for her to leave so I can take a nap alone. She plays with me for a bit and kisses me several times before saying goodbye. I gave her a tip for the taxi, and she was thankful for any amount more than the necessary 2000. Wow, she's a great girl, especially for those of you who are looking for GFE, but I'm not.

All in all, the past 48 hours have equalled itself. My cock is so raw and beat right now, but it's my last night, better man up!

Thomkatt, here's some thoughts for you.

Prime time for soi 6 is between 1600 hrs and 1900 hrs if you want the best looking girls, go after this and most will be gone, many guys take the hotties for LT early.

Baccara and iron probably have the best looking girls on walking st, not sure why you are being quoted 3000st and 5000 LT, was there 2 nights ago and probably the best 2 looking girl in Baccara were barfined by my 2 buddies I was out with, they were quoted 2000st or 3000 LT as these 2 girls were very hot the boys opted for long time, saw them at brekkie in the morning with huge grins so must have been a good night.

As you found out not worth going to the discos until late, 1 am at earliest, plenty of good looking girls here, but plenty of young guys chasing them too,1,500st, 2000 LT is the going rate if the girl likes you, yes some think they are worth more but a big majority will accept these prices without too much problem.

Not sure if you have tried the gogo bars over on LK metro but I would recommend.

as far as boys/girls claiming to have mens,not letting you see the goods but are willing to have anal sex only sounds like 100% ladyboy ploy to me

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1834476]Thomkatt, here's some thoughts for you.

Prime time for soi 6 is between 1600 hrs and 1900 hrs if you want the best looking girls, go after this and most will be gone, many guys take the hotties for LT early.

Baccara and iron probably have the best looking girls on walking st, not sure why you are being quoted 3000st and 5000 LT, was there 2 nights ago and probably the best 2 looking girl in Baccara were barfined by my 2 buddies I was out with, they were quoted 2000st or 3000 LT as these 2 girls were very hot the boys opted for long time, saw them at brekkie in the morning with huge grins so must have been a good night.

As you found out not worth going to the discos until late, 1 am at earliest, plenty of good looking girls here, but plenty of young guys chasing them too,1,500st, 2000 LT is the going rate if the girl likes you, yes some think they are worth more but a big majority will accept these prices without too much problem.

Not sure if you have tried the gogo bars over on LK metro but I would recommend.

as far as boys/girls claiming to have mens,not letting you see the goods but are willing to have anal sex only sounds like 100% ladyboy ploy to me[/QUOTE]Yeah, definitely hitting up LK metro tonight, and maybe buakhao since its close by. My experiences with prices is that they are always negotiable, generally EVERYONE quotes higher for tourists because they either can try and get away with it, or there's room for negotiations. Taxis, mototaxis, tour guides, bar girls, everyone. But if a girl is REALLY interested in getting barfined by me, then she shouldn't quote me the dummy cash cow rate. I have had the best time with women who give me a fair rate. If she sees me as a chump who will overpay, then that just shows a lack of interest and respect.

My issue with the lady boy (if she is one):

1. why lie about it? If you get caught, you're going to get fucked up in the most violent way. Is it worth it? Did she think I was a fucking idiot?

2. If we have anal sex, won't I see her ballsack / cock?

3. How does one hide a bulge so well, she was sitting down and there was nothing sticking out. I tried tucking my junk and balls in, and it bulged, not to mention ridiculously uncomfortable and even painful. I'm not well endowed in either department

[QUOTE=ThomKatt;1834486]Yeah, definitely hitting up LK metro tonight, and maybe buakhao since its close by. My experiences with prices is that they are always negotiable, generally EVERYONE quotes higher for tourists because they either can try and get away with it, or there's room for negotiations. Taxis, mototaxis, tour guides, bar girls, everyone. But if a girl is REALLY interested in getting barfined by me, then she shouldn't quote me the dummy cash cow rate. I have had the best time with women who give me a fair rate. If she sees me as a chump who will overpay, then that just shows a lack of interest and respect.

My issue with the lady boy (if she is one):

1. why lie about it? If you get caught, you're going to get fucked up in the most violent way. Is it worth it? Did she think I was a fucking idiot?

2. If we have anal sex, won't I see her ballsack / cock?

3. How does one hide a bulge so well, she was sitting down and there was nothing sticking out. I tried tucking my junk and balls in, and it bulged, not to mention ridiculously uncomfortable and even painful. I'm not well endowed in either department[/QUOTE]Have to agree the best times are had with the girls that are sensible with their prices.

As far as ladyboys, I am no expert and have not indulged but a few guys who have say that due to the multiple drugs that ladyboys take to change their body shape their dick and balls are really small, maybe to fool guys they pretend to be shy and have sex in the dark,maybe it had just had a sex change and the pussy was still sore with some blood from the op, but really not sure.

I think you did the wise move and refused, plenty more girls out there so why take the chance, have fun tonight.

[QUOTE=ThomKatt;1834486]My issue with the lady boy (if she is one):

1. why lie about it? If you get caught, you're going to get fucked up in the most violent way. Is it worth it? Did she think I was a fucking idiot?[/QUOTE]It seems you don't know katoeys. They are the ones doing the fucking up. Read Pattaya Daily News or ThaiVisa any given day and you will see how a ladyboy has just clobbered some guy with a high heel. They are men remember.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1834505]It seems you don't know katoeys. They are the ones doing the fucking up. Read Pattaya Daily News or ThaiVisa any given day and you will see how a ladyboy has just clobbered some guy with a high heel. They are MEN remember.[/QUOTE]Have to agree.

If caught out by mistaking a ladyboy as a girl then keep calm, make your excuses and leave or show them the door, do not get violent and yes they are men and fight like men.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1834537]Have to agree.

they are men and fight like men.[/QUOTE]Yeah, men always use their purse or remove their high heels to bash their opponents across the head.

[QUOTE=RunMann;1834543]Yeah, men always remove their high heels and bash their opponents across the head.[/QUOTE]Have seen many a ladyboy fight using their fists, head butting, kicking,beer bottle to the head,

In fact never seen a ladyboy lose a fight against a foreigner.

If they cannot do it alone then they will gang up and do it,many examples on the net

I mean, I'm a 6 foot 180 lb 7 year military veteran. I don't lose many fights. This girl was 80 lbs soaking wet and 5"4.

I stayed calm over the fact that we werent having sex. If she was a lady boy, she got scared of the possible violence. If she was a woman, she just felt threatened. Regardless, it was a fuckup on my part. I thought with the wrong head. I have to live with the fact that I made out with for 10 seconds and got a BBBJ for 1 minute with a lady boy, worst case scenario. Best case, I kicked an honest woman out who was on her period. Not a big deal. I'm glad I have this community to talk about it, otherwise I wouldn't be able to live with this shame. I'm sure it happens a lot more than not, and I was still pretty drunk in the morning. Lesson learned. Be more careful and ask to see the goods BEFORE any action is done.

napaslaper and mrenternational, are you both following me around? I swear we had a pretty insightful debate in the angeles forum haha cheers fellas

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1834546]
In fact never seen a ladyboy lose a fight against a foreigner. If they cannot do it alone then they will gang up and do it,many examples on the net[/QUOTE]In fact they never lose a fight against a foreigner because they never fight alone. 1 vs 1 is not in the thai style.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1834546]Have seen many a ladyboy fight using their fists, head butting, kicking,beer bottle to the head,

In fact never seen a ladyboy lose a fight against a foreigner.

If they cannot do it alone then they will gang up and do it,many examples on the net[/QUOTE]Was having a go at your "they fight like men comment. " Calling on your posse to gang up on someone else is not real manly. Still, there's an abundance of news stories available about LBs using their heavy-loaded purse and shoes to fight despite your many individual observances.

[QUOTE=ThomKatt;1834551]This girl was 80 lbs soaking wet and 5"4.

napaslaper and mrenternational, are you both following me around? I swear we had a pretty insightful debate in the angeles forum haha cheers fellas[/QUOTE]LOL. TK, I live in Pattaya. If she was that small then chances are more likely that it was a real woman. Most lbs are even bigger than a normal male for some reason. And I think for the most part they will make sure you know they are men in order to avoid trouble.

[QUOTE=RunMann;1834579]Was having a go at your "they fight like men comment. " Calling on your posse to gang up on someone else is not real manly. Still, there's an abundance of news stories available about LBs using their heavy-loaded purse and shoes to fight despite your many individual observances.[/QUOTE]It is not just the ladyboys. Here in Thailand as a foreigner, you will never fight just one Thai.

...and be very careful not to upset any Thai people. They won't be coming at you with bare hands.

[QUOTE=ThomKatt;1834551]I mean, I'm a 6 foot 180 lb 7 year military veteran. I don't lose many fights. This girl was 80 lbs soaking wet and 5"4.

I stayed calm over the fact that we werent having sex. If she was a lady boy, she got scared of the possible violence. If she was a woman, she just felt threatened. Regardless, it was a fuckup on my part. I thought with the wrong head. I have to live with the fact that I made out with for 10 seconds and got a BBBJ for 1 minute with a lady boy, worst case scenario. Best case, I kicked an honest woman out who was on her period. Not a big deal. I'm glad I have this community to talk about it, otherwise I wouldn't be able to live with this shame. I'm sure it happens a lot more than not, and I was still pretty drunk in the morning. Lesson learned. Be more careful and ask to see the goods BEFORE any action is done.

napaslaper and mrenternational, are you both following me around? I swear we had a pretty insightful debate in the angeles forum haha cheers fellas[/QUOTE]What happened to happens to a lot of guys except they find out after the fucked the LB. You were savvy enough to cut it way short. The reason you don't hear about it more is because keep their mistake hidden.

The best decision you made was letting him leave unharmed. You were in a lose-mega lose situation. I'm sure you would win against him and even if you add one or two of his friends but then what? The Police are going to come and how's that going to turn out? It's called winning the battle but losing the war. I wasn't as cool as you were during my heart trip to Pattaya in 2009 ish. On Soi 6 a ladyboy grabbed me out of nowhere and kissed me on the lips, my response? I pushed so hard he almost ended up on Soi 7. I was fighting mad and ready to go. I am 6 ft and 240 lbs and spent 22 years in the Army. How was that going to look in a Thai court? Lucky for me an old white haired ex-pat stepped in and diffused the situation. Without him I would probably be in that famous Thai prison they make movies about. You did alright so get out there and find a Thai gem and forget about it.

Thomkat, I am very glad that your trip has turned around and that your perseverance is being rewarded. I can't wait to hear about how you spend the rest of your trip.

Don't sweat your misadventure with the "lady" from wechat. It can happen to anyone. Learn form the experience and move on. Even if she was a LB and you made a mistake it really is no big deal.

Please keep your cool and refrain from violence unless you feel your personal security to be threatened. I am sure you can hold your own, but like the previous poster said, Thais stick up for their own (no matter who is really wrong in the situation) and you will end up fighting the whole damn Thai nation. It will certainly turn out badly for you.

Have fun and let us know how things turn out!

I live in Vietnam and TET is here and everything is closed and slowing down so I impulsively booked a flight to BKK and Tims hotel in Pattaya. Maybe a bad time to go. I imagine all the East Asian men will flood the place for Chinese New Year. Had a real hard time booking a hotel. Everything was occupied. Didn't know about Tim's age restriction.

What should I do if I meet a 18 or 19 yo girl I want LT? Who can I tip?

My 7th time to Thailand, but first time to Pattaya. I didn't have much time to RTFF, but I know about LK Metro and WS and FL on Beach Road. Anything else I should know about?

Tim doesn't charge joiner fee do they?

[QUOTE=AmericanThief;1834707]I live in Vietnam and TET is here and everything is closed and slowing down so I impulsively booked a flight to BKK and Tims hotel in Pattaya. Maybe a bad time to go. I imagine all the East Asian men will flood the place for Chinese New Year. Had a real hard time booking a hotel. Everything was occupied. Didn't know about Tim's age restriction.

What should I do if I meet a 18 or 19 yo girl I want LT? Who can I tip?

My 7th time to Thailand, but first time to Pattaya. I didn't have much time to RTFF, but I know about LK Metro and WS and FL on Beach Road. Anything else I should know about?

Tim doesn't charge joiner fee do they?[/QUOTE]Soi 6 and Soi 7-8.

[QUOTE=AmericanThief;1834707]
My 7th time to Thailand, but first time to Pattaya. I didn't have much time to RTFF, but I know about LK Metro and WS and FL on Beach Road. Anything else I should know about?[/QUOTE]Other options are Soi 6, soapies on 2nd around soi 2, Kinnaree Place, bar girls on soi 7 and 8, in that order and all ahead of the FL's on Beach Road.

Is any one know of The Telephone Bar on Soi Batman?

Love to know more about it.

And what you can do.

For how much?

[QUOTE=AmericanThief;1834707]I live in Vietnam and TET is here and everything is closed and slowing down so I impulsively booked a flight to BKK and Tims hotel in Pattaya. Maybe a bad time to go. I imagine all the East Asian men will flood the place for Chinese New Year. Had a real hard time booking a hotel. Everything was occupied. Didn't know about Tim's age restriction.

What should I do if I meet a 18 or 19 yo girl I want LT? Who can I tip?

My 7th time to Thailand, but first time to Pattaya. I didn't have much time to RTFF, but I know about LK Metro and WS and FL on Beach Road. Anything else I should know about?

Tim doesn't charge joiner fee do they?[/QUOTE]There are many massage places to get a quickie off Soi Buakhao. Such as sois Honey Inn, Chaiyphoon & Langkee. 1,000-1,200 all in should get you "everything" massage.
Be carefull about the BeerBar Girls. They rather soak you for drinks than go with you for the most part. More expensive GoGo's can sometimes be cheaper in the long run, plus are as a general rule a lot hotter, see Baccara.
I have found some very hot diamonds in the rough on beach Road. Younger, more conservatively dressed girls are often a sign of being fairly new in town. Many of these girls have bodies as hot as anything you find in the GoGo's and next to no BeerBar. Pay 700-1000 short time all in.
The advantage of living here is you can do constant scouting. If your trip is short and you want to avoid disappointment stick with GoGo's if you can afford it.

Is there a place in Vietnam you can recommend?

Hello everyone,

I am visiting Pattaya along with family next month. I will be put up at the A-one The royal cruise hotel. Are there any FS massage parlors around? If not what are the close destinations to get quickies.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks.

Hello fellow members,

A friend of mine has permanently moved to Pattaya, we all have that one friend don't we, who we are jealous off, lucky man! Just sharing his insight on the situation currently in Pattaya.

He was telling me there is a huge influx of Japan / Korean / Chinese customers in the region due to the Chinese New Years or just that time of the season. He has been going WS with no hopes of roping girls but sticks to Soi 6 and Soi Bukhao for his daily mongering accepting the reality of the season. Much like the New years season this is perhaps the second blitz where men come in hordes and girls can demand prices, demand Lady Drinks etc. As much as we all want to walk into a half empty gogo bar with all girls vying for our wallets and what's between our pockets, Pattaya is like a solid business model where different people fill different time slots throughout the year.

Lastly, in my experience it is extremely rare, any of us travelers or visiting mongers will run into settled expats on WS. As the saying goes, When in Rome. , well the settlers of Rome have spoken, you will always walk in with high expectations on WS and be disappointed since those girls have options. As much as we say theres always another bar / another girl, it goes the same for the girls on WS, another LD / another Barfine.

I am planning another trip in either July or August to Pattaya, wanted to ask the board if there is any other seasons I should avoid. The forum and mongers basically saved me from a SongKran disappointment, so I ask. How is June / July / Aug as a time and is there anything I should have in mind?

Much appreciated.

[QUOTE=SimpleGuy85;1834867]Hello everyone,
I am visiting Pattaya along with family next month. I will be put up at the A-one The royal cruise hotel. Are there any FS massage parlors around? If not what are the close destinations to get quickies.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]If this is your hotel [URL]http://www.aone-pattaya-resort.com/beachresort/[/URL]#location You have 3 bodymassage near your hotel, just walk out from soi 3 on second road and turn left.

[QUOTE=Eurojay;1834890] How is June / July / Aug as a time and is there anything I should have in mind?[/QUOTE]Last June I had more fun than October and early December. So for me is a good time. I just avoid August because is full of my countrymen and personally I hate it.

June: usually have a 2/3 days soi6 party from PA forum, in this days I don't go in soi6.

July: 19/20 Buddha days.

August: 12 Queen's birthday.

[QUOTE=Eurojay;1834890]How is Aug as a time and is there anything I should have in mind?[/QUOTE]Bring your waders. Rainy/Flood season.

[QUOTE=HotShaneHot;1834773]Is any one know of The Telephone Bar on Soi Batman?

Love to know more about it.

And what you can do.

For how much?[/QUOTE]HSH, Telephone Bar has shut down. Similar option seems to be "Bar de la Poste" on Soi Lengkee, no idea if the owner is same as Telephone bar. I had read an FR some time back and If I remember well a BJ was for 500 baht. Room cost was additional 400 baht and FS was 700 baht. Package deal for a BJ + FS was 1000 THB. Prices might have changed now.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1835019]Bring your waders. Rainy/Flood season.[/QUOTE]I was there most of August last year and the weather was good. I don't remember it raining all that much. Just a drizzle here and there. And its an excellent time to Monger as the pickings are good and there aren't too many customers. I hear September and October are even better. But sadly I never can get away that time of year.

[QUOTE=IllusionHeart;1835027]HSH, Telephone Bar has shut down.[/QUOTE]When? Last December was open.

[QUOTE=Eurojay;1834890]How is June / July / Aug as a time and is there anything I should have in mind?
[/QUOTE]The low season (rainy season) is my favorite time to visit. Rooms in quality hotels are bargain rate. The girls will be VERY happy to see you. Walking street is navigable thanks to the absence of idiotic tour groups. You will have a great time. Just bring a good umbrella, water proof shoes-waders, Ha Ha, (huge puddles are common after a down pour), and sun block. The sun does come out, sometimes for days at a time.

[QUOTE=ChristianG;1835037]When? Last December was open.[/QUOTE]Christian, I had read some time back. I think Blanquiselete had updated an FR about it.

[QUOTE=AmericanThief;1834707]
What should I do if I meet a 18 or 19 yo girl I want LT? Who can I tip?[/QUOTE]18 or 19 year old are exceedingly rare and look like they aren't a day over 16. Looking like real jailbait, if you ask me.

The situation is so rare, it is not worth worrying about.

[QUOTE=HotShaneHot;1834773]Is any one know of The Telephone Bar on Soi Batman?
Love to know more about it. And what you can do. For how much?[/QUOTE]It's open.

I had two buddies here just 2 weeks ago. They went and had a better time this trip than the previous trip. It's pretty cheap, about 300 baht standard room rate / barfine fee, plus 500 for a BJ = 800 baht and I believe FS is 1000 plus room = 1300 baht (just ask when you arrive). You can do everything! Get a BJ right there on a couch in the open or go up to a room for privacy. Your choice. Enjoy.

This place is out of the way. Near S. Pattaya and Suk. Go down South Pattaya to pattaya tai 2 and turn left. Follow the road and go left and left again. Best to take a bike taxi.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1835054]18 or 19 year old are exceedingly rare and look like they aren't a day over 16. Looking like real jailbait, if you ask me.[/QUOTE]True. I thought some of my soapie girls were 19 and they tell me they're 23-24. Oddly, the only girl I hung out with who was actually 19 (the one who got turned away at the hotel) I had no clue she was so young, mainly because she acted mature.

A one hout flight from HCM to BKK and two hour bus ride to Pattaya took 11 hours. I was pretty tired after arriving about 9:30 pm. Found my way to Honey Inn. Took the manager's recomendation and ended up with someone's mother. I couldn't get an erection with her. I haven't banged a girl over 22 for years. I should have asked more questions, anyway WS tonight looking for attraction and youth tonight.

Oh Tony's gym sucks, dangerous equipment. Any better gym to train with modern equipment in Central can pay per visit?

[QUOTE=TheCane;1826193]But I had some really great fun interacting with the mamasans and staff! I wrote about it here: [POST]1811124[/POST]To make a long story short, you don't have to buy a mamasan a damn thing. But, I found that the overall fun I had during my trip was enhanced by my interactions with the Thai people apart from just the sex. Although, I do recall that when I was with my girl "Beeah" from Sahara in Bangkok, I told her while I was fucking her, "And I want you to go back and tell mamasan I got a big dick too!" Hahahaha! Yeah, I'm a fool LOL![/QUOTE]I agree with you that it can be fun. I had a similar experience in a GoGo bar. I was with a very pretty girl and had relaxed drinks with her. There were only 6 girls in the bar and surprisingly had only a couple of clients. While I was having some nice time with the girl, whom I bar fined later, mamasan approached me for a drink in a very jovial manner. I said why not? I got her two drinks and we had really nice time talking about the girl who was with me and other girls in the bar. That gave me a some insight into their lives. I ended up getting a drink for all the six girls and the mamasan and had good time before leaving with my girl.

[QUOTE=PaulAlbert;1821121]Hey guys,

I will be staying in Pattaya for 2 weeks in May, could anyone advise what is the best area to stay in, one that is closest to the gogo / beer bars and massage joints, thanks![/QUOTE]There are plenty of hotels to stay near Walking Street, where most of the GoGo bars are located and on the Beach Road where Beer Bars are located. Of course, there are Beer Bars on Soi Cow also but since you appear to be interested in GoGo bars, you can stay on Beach Road and surrounding areas. You can find hotels near Walking Street on [URL]booking.com[/URL], which offer very good prices and hotel descriptions are accurate. If you want girl friendly hotels take a look at [URL]http://www.gfriendlyhotels.com/guest-friendly-hotels-pattaya.html.[/URL].

[QUOTE=AmericanThief;1835193]Oh Tony's gym sucks, dangerous equipment. Any better gym to train with modern equipment in Central can pay per visit?[/QUOTE]In the past I saw 2/3 Tony's gym and Universal gym on Suk Rd. No one had modern equipment. Now is 2 years that i dont go in Pattaya's gym so can't help you.

[QUOTE=AmericanThief;1835193]A one hout flight from HCM to BKK and two hour bus ride to Pattaya took 11 hours. I was pretty tired after arriving about 9:30 pm. Found my way to Honey Inn. Took the manager's recomendation and ended up with someone's mother. I couldn't get an erection with her. I haven't banged a girl over 22 for years. I should have asked more questions, anyway WS tonight looking for attraction and youth tonight.

Oh Tony's gym sucks, dangerous equipment. Any better gym to train with modern equipment in Central can pay per visit?[/QUOTE]That sucks. I just came back from a short trip to HCMC. It should only take 4-5 hours. For a future trip, there are 2 bus options downstairs right next to each other. Best to check the departure times with both of them. Then, if you decide to wait for the next bus, hang around the counter area. Sometimes you can get lucky and get a seat if someone cancels. Or you can decide to grab a cab.

When I got back last month, there was a 2 hour wait for the next bus. The one leaving in 15 min and the one after that were already sold out. I told the guy at the counter, to please tell me if I can get a bus sooner. He agreed. I ran off to the restroom and came right back. I had decided to grab a cab instead. Then as I waited to return my ticket (only 2 people in front of me), I found a guy and his friend with the same problem. I suggested we all grab a cab and share the ride. They agreed. So what happens next, I hand in my ticket and ask for a refund and the guy at the counter tell me someone cancelled. He exchanges my ticket and I'm on the bus leaving now. I apologized to the other people and told them what just happened. Then I told them where to grab a cab upstairs and how much they should pay.

[QUOTE=AmericanThief;1835193] .. Oh Tony's gym sucks, dangerous equipment. Any better gym to train with modern equipment in Central can pay per visit?[/QUOTE]There is a Tony's gym on Soi Buakhao that's ok. Also three more gyms on 3rd road, right near South Pattaya.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1835034]I was there most of August last year and the weather was good. I don't remember it raining all that much. Just a drizzle here and there. And its an excellent time to Monger as the pickings are good and there aren't too many customers. I hear September and October are even better. But sadly I never can get away that time of year.[/QUOTE]Rainy season came late last year.

[QUOTE=AmericanThief;1835193]A one hout flight from HCM to BKK and two hour bus ride to Pattaya took 11 hours. I was pretty tired after arriving about 9:30 pm. Found my way to Honey Inn. Took the manager's recomendation and ended up with someone's mother. I couldn't get an erection with her. I haven't banged a girl over 22 for years. I should have asked more questions, anyway WS tonight looking for attraction and youth tonight.

Oh Tony's gym sucks, dangerous equipment. Any better gym to train with modern equipment in Central can pay per visit?[/QUOTE]There is a gym in the Avenue Mall complex on 2nd road (where the McDonalds and Au Bon Pain are situated). I think its relatively new as I don't remember seeing it before last trip in August. I've never been inside, as the condo where I regularly stay has enough equipment for me.

End of day 2. Nothing good to report. I went to a hand full of gogos with no luck. I'm supressing my negativity right now with the optimistic belief with more exploring I will find something I like. On a positive note I haven't had a drink since I've been here#sobermonger.

Will check out the big tonys tomorrow and the place at the ave mall.

[QUOTE=AmericanThief;1835439] I went to a hand full of gogos with no luck..[/QUOTE]Just checking to make sure you're visiting the right gogo clubs like What's Up and Sapphire, both on Soi Diamond (off WS at Ice Bar). If you strike out at these 2 clubs, gogo clubs are not your thing and don't even think about going to gogo clubs in BKK. If you want skanky action but girls don't look nearly as good, go to Windmill.

Which clubs did you visit?

[QUOTE=AmericanThief;1835439]End of day 2. Nothing good to report. I went to a hand full of gogos with no luck. I'm supressing my negativity right now with the optimistic belief with more exploring I will find something I like. On a positive note I haven't had a drink since I've been here#sobermonger.

Will check out the big tonys tomorrow and the place at the ave mall.[/QUOTE]What are you talking about? Second day here and I just had the best soi 6 experience of a lifetime, let alone barfining f'ing tons and tons of gogo dancers. 50000 f'in girls and you can't find one? You need someone to hold your hand?

So going down soi 6 and I tell my buddy I'll buy him a girl as payback, we hit upon this bar with some cuties. Next thing you know I'm getting a f'in BJ right out in the open. Rooms are packed so me and my buddy are waiting for at least 20 minutes, I'm getting BJ's every few minutes to keep me occupied. Then we all rush up, the four of us, to find out only one room is free. An orgy is almost about to happen, both girls are undressing and my buddy and I are looking at each other in amazement. And to kick things off they are also half sisters (same mother). Next thing you know the action is going on, hands are drifting from breasts to breasts, checking out the action. Then the lights go out (one of the sisters idea) and the swapping begins. Won't go into detail but my buddys girl helped out her half sister, came down for a fantastic CIM finish while I ate out her cute little sister. Think I'm going to spend most of my free time down this soi looking for some action.

So for the guys who can't find the pussy in front of their face, sorry to read about that. Step up your game or find a buddy (like I have) who's young enough and speaks fluent Thai to show you around and attract all the hot girls. Tons of girls down there today, don't ask for the bar or their names, I'm planning on hitting them over and over on this trip. I told him his services are needed, not many young white guys who can drive the girls crazy speaking their native tongue. Sorry, older guys who speak Thai just freak out these young girls (at least from what I saw).

[QUOTE=Breadman;1835533]What are you talking about? Second day here and I just had the best soi 6 experience of a lifetime, let alone barfining f'ing tons and tons of gogo dancers. 50000 f'in girls and you can't find one? You need someone to hold your hand?[/QUOTE]I would cut the man a little bit of slack. I don't know exactly what his situation is, but I've said it before and I'll say it again. At one point, I went a three-day stretch in Pattaya before finding anybody I wanted to fuck! For me, it was an issue of not finding the kind of "Asian look" that I like. I ended up having 14 sessions over a 2 1/2 week stay in Thailand, which was on the low side for me given how long I was there. Respectable, but still low for The Cane.

That was in large part because I just wasn't as in to "the look" as I am with Brazilian and European women. So, my numbers were down for the length of stay. If this is what's going on with American Thief, then I can understand. Thousands and thousands of girls, and you have a hard time finding one that you like. I've been there! Now if you do like what can be easily found in Thailand looks-wise, then yes it's going to be a paradise. Which is exactly how I feel about Brazil hehehe! To each his own. I have some empathy though for you American Thief.

I have no plans to return to Thailand to monger. Not unless business takes me that way again, which is a distinct possibility. It's just way too far to travel for a selection pool that mostly won't meet my tastes. I'm glad I went, and I had a good time overall, but I would much rather have the much smaller selection pools of a Brazilian termas or a German FKK to choose from where I know I will find what I want every single time I go absolutely no problems. Again, to each his own. If you love Thai girls and the Thai scene wonderful! I'm glad you've found your paradise because I sure as hell have found mine on the other side of the globe! Now go knock the bottom out LOL!

[QUOTE=TheCane;1835547]I would cut the man a little bit of slack. I don't know exactly what his situation is, but I've said it before and I'll say it again. At one point, I went a three-day stretch in Pattaya before finding anybody I wanted to fuck! For me, it was an issue of not finding the kind of "Asian look" that I like. [/QUOTE]Then maybe you and American Thief are long lost brothers. Pretty much everybody on this board can attest to the numbers of available girls here. "Asia" covers a pretty big area, maybe you picked the wrong area for your look. There are easily 10000 girls working in the gogo's of walking street, you could walk into each one (without even buying a drink) and point to one that looks good and just say "bar fine". She'd be dressed and out the door in minutes. Girls flock to pretty much all farangs, its my guess that AT doesn't stand out in a crowd?

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1835371]There is a gym in the Avenue Mall complex on 2nd road (where the McDonalds and Au Bon Pain are situated). I think its relatively new as I don't remember seeing it before last trip in August. I've never been inside, as the condo where I regularly stay has enough equipment for me.[/QUOTE]The gym you are referring to; California Wow, has been closed for years, and it's owners and managers are battling a slew of lawsuits for embezzlement, fraud, money laundering and other felonies. They sold tens of thousands of prepaid memberships and allegedly used the proceeds to fund their own decadent lifestyles.

When they were open, many years ago, they charged outrageous prices for monthly memberships for visitors. The whole place has been sitting untouched for years until recently, when I've seen the entrance door partially open, and some items being removed from inside.

What a shame, as Pattaya could use a really nice air conditioned gym with modern equipment. Tony's is a filthy rat trap with broken down equipment.

[QUOTE=AmericanThief;1835439]End of day 2. Nothing good to report. I went to a hand full of gogos with no luck. I'm supressing my negativity right now with the optimistic belief with more exploring I will find something I like. On a positive note I haven't had a drink since I've been here#sobermonger.[/QUOTE]Just checking to make sure. Are you in Pattaya, Thailand or Pattaya, Oklahoma?

I've been here just two days and already am sorely in need of a day off. There seems to be at least four different "red light districts" and each of them is so loaded with hotties that I wonder how they all manage to make a living. The Soi 6 area. The Soi 8 area. Walking Street and surroundings. TK Metro. It's pretty astonishing.

OK, I gotta go get a massage. Oh, and hold the happy ending please. I need to recharge.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1835580]Then maybe you and American Thief are long lost brothers. Pretty much everybody on this board can attest to the numbers of available girls here.[/QUOTE]Yeah? Well tell it to Mr. Ho LOL! I don't know how many times I have to say it. You keep going on and on about "numbers available", but numbers don't mean squat if you aren't attracted to the general look! It's not that I'm not attracted to any Thai girls. I'm just not attracted to most of them, and tend to find the ones that are mixed with something else to be the prettiest to my eye.

Now, maybe for you it's as easy as spearing fish in a barrel over there. Well, that's how I feel about Brazilian and Colombian women in one room! I respect your choices and am just suggesting that you ought to be a bit more respectful and less harshly critical of the dispositions of others who might have very different tastes in women than you do. Yes I once was lost, but now I'm found! In Brazilian termas and German FKKs!

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1835530]Just checking to make sure you're visiting the right gogo clubs like What's Up and Sapphire, both on Soi Diamond (off WS at Ice Bar). If you strike out at these 2 clubs, gogo clubs are not your thing and don't even think about going to gogo clubs in BKK. If you want skanky action but girls don't look nearly as good, go to Windmill.

Which clubs did you visit?[/QUOTE]I've been to BKK 6 times. BF many from Rainbow 4, Susie Wongs.

Last night I went to Baccara, Living Dolls and two others. I didn't find the girls attractive. I bought a couple lady drinks. One girl was young and cute but she wasn't that interested. She kept getting drink slips as I was talking to her. I think she wanted to go with the Korea guys. The other girls were single mothers I'm not interested in saggy breasts and stretch marks. They looked ok dancing under the lights but close up I feel their skin and it was a turn off.

I will check those places and let you know. Maybe gogos aren't really my thing. I felt like the girls really didn't want my business at all and it was such a bother to even have a drink with me.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1835533]What are you talking about? Second day here and I just had the best soi 6 experience of a lifetime, let alone barfining f'ing tons and tons of gogo dancers. 50000 f'in girls and you can't find one? You need someone to hold your hand?

So going down soi 6 and I tell my buddy I'll buy him a girl as payback, we hit upon this bar with some cuties. Next thing you know I'm getting a f'in BJ right out in the open. Rooms are packed so me and my buddy are waiting for at least 20 minutes, I'm getting BJ's every few minutes to keep me occupied. Then we all rush up, the four of us, to find out only one room is free. An orgy is almost about to happen, both girls are undressing and my buddy and I are looking at each other in amazement. And to kick things off they are also half sisters (same mother). Next thing you know the action is going on, hands are drifting from breasts to breasts, checking out the action. Then the lights go out (one of the sisters idea) and the swapping begins. Won't go into detail but my buddys girl helped out her half sister, came down for a fantastic CIM finish while I ate out her cute little sister. Think I'm going to spend most of my free time down this soi looking for some action.

So for the guys who can't find the pussy in front of their face, sorry to read about that. Step up your game or find a buddy (like I have) who's young enough and speaks fluent Thai to show you around and attract all the hot girls. Tons of girls down there today, don't ask for the bar or their names, I'm planning on hitting them over and over on this trip. I told him his services are needed, not many young white guys who can drive the girls crazy speaking their native tongue. Sorry, older guys who speak Thai just freak out these young girls (at least from what I saw).[/QUOTE]Breadman I haven't found soi 6 yet. My next stop. By the way, were you able to penetrate both girls? Did you have to change condoms eveytime? Did you even have to wear one? Do you have photos?

By the way, I stepped up my game by moving to Asia and living here in this different culture and different language hustling all along the way, so give me a break for not taking the first dark skinned Issan girl that approaches me. Perhaps my head is stuck in Vietnam where I live and get laid all the fucking time be it non pros or working girls depending on circumstances and time.

I remember when I used to come here and be so happy to have a female but since I live here and have easy access I have developed a certain taste in Asian girls and I just haven't met any here yet.

[QUOTE=AmericanThief;1835612]Breadman I haven't found soi 6 yet. My next stop. [/QUOTE]Prime time for soi 6 is 5-7 pm. You may have to walk up and down the soi a few times since some girls may be in sessions. If you strike out, perfect time to walk a couple blocks to Honey 2 and Sabai Dee (not Sabai Room) massage along 2nd Road. Only concentrate on the expensive ones. After a massage, then off to the gogo clubs at 9-10 pm when they start to get going.

Hopefully you make it to Sapphire. A quick smile/wave to any available girl there and they will be at your side. Buy a few girls a ladydrink or 3 and see where things go. Seriously if you can't find anyone at Sapphire then give up on Thailand gogo clubs.

I didn't find anything special about Baccara or Living Dolls on WS either.

[QUOTE=AmericanThief;1835605]I will check those places and let you know. Maybe gogos aren't really my thing. I felt like the girls really didn't want my business at all and it was such a bother to even have a drink with me.[/QUOTE]

I chose Sapphire and What's Up for you cause the girls are friendlier than the more touristy gogo bars right on WS.

[QUOTE=David2;1835585]The gym you are referring to; California Wow, has been closed for years, and it's owners and managers are battling a slew of lawsuits for embezzlement, fraud, money laundering and other felonies. They sold tens of thousands of prepaid memberships and allegedly used the proceeds to fund their own decadent lifestyles.

When they were open, many years ago, they charged outrageous prices for monthly memberships for visitors. The whole place has been sitting untouched for years until recently, when I've seen the entrance door partially open, and some items being removed from inside.

What a shame, as Pattaya could use a really nice air conditioned gym with modern equipment. Tony's is a filthy rat trap with broken down equipment.[/QUOTE]Sorry about the false info. Like I said I only walked by the place and never went in. I could swear it was open.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1835094]It's open.

I had two buddies here just 2 weeks ago. They went and had a better time this trip than the previous trip. It's pretty cheap, about 300 baht standard room rate / barfine fee, plus 500 for a BJ = 800 baht and I believe FS is 1000 plus room = 1300 baht (just ask when you arrive). You can do everything! Get a BJ right there on a couch in the open or go up to a room for privacy. Your choice. Enjoy.

This place is out of the way. Near S. Pattaya and Suk. Go down South Pattaya to pattaya tai 2 and turn left. Follow the road and go left and left again. Best to take a bike taxi.[/QUOTE]I was there a few days back and the FS while BJ is 500, FS is 700. You could have a BJ in the bar in which case the additional 300 is not applicable (I think) but if you go inide to a more private area then then 300 applies. The private area is a small couch with a curtain around it.

I trained at Fairtech sports center today. It was ok, at least they take care of their equipment even if its not the latest technology it was functional clean and safe, they also included towels and locker for 300 baht.

Good gym, swimming pool, tennis courts etc at the Marriot hotel just at the rear of royal garden mall on Beach road, Marriot can also be accessed from 2nd road.

I have a yearly membership but am sure they have daily, weekly or monthly.

For those that are claiming they cannot find attractive girls in Baccara, Iron, or Sapphire then thai girls are just not your thing, I am super fussy and still see girls in all these gogos that are very attractive,young, slim and above all available.

[QUOTE=AmericanThief;1835612]Breadman I haven't found soi 6 yet. My next stop. By the way, were you able to penetrate both girls? Did you have to change condoms eveytime? Did you even have to wear one? Do you have photos?

By the way, I stepped up my game by moving to Asia and living here in this different culture and different language hustling all along the way, so give me a break for not taking the first dark skinned Issan girl that approaches me. Perhaps my head is stuck in Vietnam where I live and get laid all the fucking time be it non pros or working girls depending on circumstances and time.

I remember when I used to come here and be so happy to have a female but since I live here and have easy access I have developed a certain taste in Asian girls and I just haven't met any here yet.[/QUOTE]I had the same problem finding girls I liked the first few days after coming back from New Years holiday in VN. In VN the girls are, on average, lighter skin, taller and slimmer, and have finer features that most of the girls in Patts, who are shorter, darker Issan girls. To each his own, but I prefer the former I think you may too. Most Asian guys do --just look at the girls on Thai TV. I am not implying here that you are Asian,. But living in Asia, I am sure you know what I mean.

But there is still something very sexy about Thai girls. The can be so sweet and care free and if you get the right one its just magic. You just need to get your head around it. After a day or two more without poontang I think you will change your perspective. 555. I know I did. I ended up hooking up with a stunning, darker, 20 year old shorty that I met in Insomnia. I just could not get enough of her and spent my last few days with her, mostly in my bed. (enclosed is a pic of her to whet your appetite a little).

BTW: Have you tried Ibar / Insomnia? There are so many friendly young hotties there. It's more of a disco / FL spot. For me the main attraction to coming to Pattaya. I have had some great times there over the last couple of years. Sometimes even with girls that have approached me!

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1835691]I had the same problem finding girls I liked the first few days after coming back from New Years holiday in VN. In VN the girls are, on average, lighter skin, taller and slimmer, and have finer features that most of the girls in Patts, who are shorter, darker Issan girls. To each his own, but I prefer the former I think you may too. Most Asian guys do --just look at the girls on Thai TV. I am not implying here that you are Asian,. But living in Asia, I am sure you know what I mean.
[/QUOTE]How tall are you referring to for Viet girls? In Bangkok bar most of my favorite girls are quite tall between 160 and 169, shortest is about 160 one with big tits. They look very tall in high heels (adding 10 to 15 cm typically) possibly level with my 184 or higher. However I am mostly ignoring the very short girls, reasons not clear, they just don't appeal as much. Shade of the skin is not a big concern. All favourites are from the "talls" section. Tall Thai girls are around if you need tall.

In massage shops doesn't matter if girls are tall or not. They don't spend much time in vertical position. LOL A good slim body is good enough for me.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1835709]

In massage shops doesn't matter if girls are tall or not. They don't spend much time in vertical position. LOL A good slim body is good enough for me.[/QUOTE]555! I like your logic.

I am not the greatest judge of height. Btu I'd say there are more girls 165-170 on average. I don't really care about height per se. But taller girls tend to be better proportioned (for example longer legs) and look better as they put on a little weight over time.

Ruby club used to have one tall girl. Mintny. Not the prettiest face but she had a lovely long and slim body. With her long dark hair she was just a joy to look at while prancing around the room post coitus. Sadly, she has long since moved on.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1835716]
I am not the greatest judge of height. Btu I'd say there are more girls 165-170 on average. I don't really care about height per se. But taller girls tend to be better proportioned (for example longer legs) and look better as they put on a little weight over time.
[/QUOTE]Yes I agree. Shorter girls need to have more perfect proportion figures to look good. Can look chunky very easily. I am tall so tall girls suit me better and make variety from the Mrs. who is rather short, but very nice hot curves, her head top does not reach my shoulder in bare feet. She mostly wears heels to look a bit taller outside. Little more than 40 Kg. So light as a feather.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1835724]Yes I agree. Shorter girls need to have more perfect proportion figures to look good. Can look chunky very easily. I am tall so tall girls suit me better and make variety from the Mrs. who is rather short, but very nice hot curves, her head top does not reach my shoulder in bare feet. She mostly wears heels to look a bit taller outside. Little more than 40 Kg. So light as a feather.[/QUOTE]Variety is the spice of life, especially when it comes to girls I like all kinds. I find that if I am with a tall lithe spinner for a time I get the craving for a voluptuous, curvy girl. And after a while with a girl like that I will want a petite spinner. And so on.

So I like all kinds. Except for fat, bitchy, and self entitled, Western feminazis, of course. 555.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1835730]
So I like all kinds. Except for fat, bitchy, and self entitled, Western feminazis, of course. 555.[/QUOTE]Amen to that.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1835730]
So I like all kinds. Except for fat, bitchy, and self entitled, Western feminazis, of course. 555.[/QUOTE]555. I like that expression.

I like east European girls well enough, unless fat, but had no interest in women from home country since divorcing one 25 years ago.

My ex did not even understand how to get clean.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1835676]Sorry about the false info. Like I said I only walked by the place and never went in. I could swear it was open.[/QUOTE]Easy mistake to make. This was the only one in Pattaya, but there were others across Asia. The place has been frozen in time since 2012 when it was abruptly shut down. The signs are still up on the outside, but it's as if the porch light is on, but nobdy's home. I read this article the other day.

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Went to soi 6 today. A bit out of the way, but good to know. Some real cat houses there. I took a girl fom hero bar upstairs, I like the uniforms I guess. Nothing memorable but seemed a value. Really tired though going to sleep tonight and check out those gogos tomorrow Saphire and what's up? Oh got to see the dragon at the mall, so its going to be a lucky lunar year for me.

Got some messages from vietnam, some girls aready wanting to meet as soon as they return from the province back to HCM. Must be the dragon.

[QUOTE=AmericanThief;1835862]Really tired though going to sleep tonight and check out those gogos tomorrow Saphire and what's up?[/QUOTE]Take a power nap and head out. It's only 11:30 pm there.

I last visited Pattaya 3 years ago and my biggest regret was never going to the Telephone bar or De La Poste.

When I returned De La Poste was one of my first stops (because it is so much closer than Telephone).

Why does no one mention how old and ugly the women in this bar are?

All you here about is how you buy a ladies drink and the tops come off and they aren't wearing any panties, how you can get a BJ or FS on site.

What no one mentions is that only 2 of the girls that work there are under 35, and one of those two is fat.

My first time there I thought I must have gone on an off night, the most attractive girl in the place was a 6 and she was with a customer.

While trying to wait on her I had 3 old women come up to me, the first 2 got the hint that I wasn't interested, the last one wouldn't leave me so I left the bar.

I tried it again when I was in the area, this time the 6 wasn't even there so I could have my choice of any old woman I wanted.

You can find just as good of a selection on beach road at 3 am.

This was just a major major let down to me and I don't want others to go there with to high of expectations. Honestly there really is no point in going at all.

Can get massage girls that are 10-15 years younger all around that area to do the same thing for the same price.

[QUOTE=Regnad;1835590]Just checking to make sure. Are you in Pattaya, Thailand or Pattaya, Oklahoma?[/QUOTE]This comment made my day, LOL.

Concerning subject, I arrived 10 hours ago and was a bit tired so didn't spend much efforts and just stepped inside of one go-go at Walking street and barfined a girl within 10 minutes. She was attractive to my taste but when she went to change clothes to go out with me, another one came to the dancing pole, even better so I had slight regret I made my choice so fast. Really, there are plenty of cute girls here, I have to explore more places.

From Macau to Angeles city to Pattaya. This was our last stop. Was travelling with my wingman KC. We always stay at Hotel Jasmine, on soi BJ. Just off the walking street. Very quiet and being so close to the action. Price of 800 Baht for a decent superior room on the 3rd floor. I will not bore anyone with the same info about pattaya since most has been covered but I will post some observations and experiences -.

Overall girl quality seemed down, compared to only 9 months ago. We were there in April 2015. Go gos, beer gardens, ibar, insomnia, soi 7 etc. I didn't see as many young, slim, pretty, attractive girls. Don't get me wrong. There were still plenty of girls but quantity of those ones was very low IMO.

It seemed slow for the mongering. Overall, no. Of tourists is up but almost every mongering place told us that business was very slow. Even saw a couple of go gos closed down. Our hotel was probably 80% vacant. Manager said hotel was hurting big time. Many go go bars were pretty empty at 10 pm. Beer gardens everywhere seemed slow as well.

We got hooked on Sapphire go go. They've got over 60 girls. We went here every night around 8 pm to 10 pm. Their large Chang draft was only 95 baht. I drank 2 every night and bought 3 lady drinks to the girl. She always stayed with me for the entire time I was there. Kissing, grinding, massaging etc. Total bill was under 800 Baht. Can not go wrong for about $20. Some very pretty girls. Great atmosphere. No pressure to buy drinks. Pretty relaxing and fun place. From here, we moved on to What's up.

The best looking girls are in go gos, we know that. But What's up has the best looking girls of all the go gos. Many girls don't even look Thai. We went here every day as well. Upstairs or downstairs. Beautiful girls. Great attitude. For 2 drinks, girls sat with us for about an hour and we had amazing time with them every night. They've got more than 80 girls. Average girl quality is way better than any other place. Nice shows as well. From here, we moved on to ibar and later insomnia.

Girls at ibar and insomnia had more attitude than ever before. No problems finding a nice girl at the normal rate but some girls there think they are princesses. One girl, undoubtedly pretty, quoted 4000 baht ST to KC. A girl, who wasn't even attractive, quoted me 2000ST in insomnia. I wouldn't have taken her for free but I was amazed to see her attitude and confidence of commanding 2000 baht.

I'm not a big fan of soi 6. I rather take the girl to the comfort of my room so soi 7 works better for me. Again, quality was down but I was always able to find 1 to my liking. Girls had a very nice attitude there. I bar fined once for 400 Baht and 1000 baht for the girl. Next time, at a different bar at soi 7, I was quoted 500 baht bar fine and 1000 baht for the girl. Not sure if that was the rate or I got screwed over meagre 100 baht.

Windmill and sugar baby are owned by the same owner and girls were more open for dirtier acts if that's your thing. These 2 places seemed to be always packed. On another note, I don't understand why Happy go go is so busy every night. I have been there many times but never liked the girls, attitude, vibe or anything there. To each his own, I guess.

Visited Kinnarree Club in the afternoon around 3 pm. Must be a bad timing on my part because there were 3 times more guys than girls. Still had a beer and talked to a couple of girls but they seemed more professional than I was expecting. Price quoted was 500 bar fine + 1000 plus plus. I asked the girl what is plus plus. She said it's the tip. Didn't take me too long to get out of there. Never went back.

Visited Club 4 and there is another one called 007 right beside it. Nice relaxing lounges, cute girls and great attitude. Need a motorbike to go there though. Prices were BJ 300 BF + 500 girl. Full service 300 BF + 1000 girl. We went to these 2 clubs 4 times in total. Worth every time. BJ can be done right in the lounge with a curtain. They have adequate rooms upstairs for the full deed. Great service every time. Girls were willing to spend time with us and please us.

Too many chinese tourists on the walking street. Even hard to walk sometimes without bumping into people. Don't think they contribute anything to the walking street. May be to the Thai economy for flights, hotels, meals, shopping etc. Doesn't really bother me but pattaya feels like less and less mongering destination.

Everything else seemed same as before. Same establishments. Same prices. Food was good, as usual. People are nice and friendly, as ever. Will have to wait until next year to go back. I've got plans for Germany and Latin america for the rest of the year.

Be Safe and Good luck hunting guys!

SexMachine1.

What's the normal barfine and St / LT price quotes?

[QUOTE=Sexmachine1;1835984]Visited Club 4 and there is another one called 007 right beside it. Nice relaxing lounges, cute girls and great attitude. Need a motorbike to go there though. Prices were BJ 300 BF + 500 girl. Full service 300 BF + 1000 girl. We went to these 2 clubs 4 times in total. Worth every time. BJ can be done right in the lounge with a curtain. They have adequate rooms upstairs for the full deed. Great service every time. Girls were willing to spend time with us and please us.[/QUOTE]Thanks I will definitely check these places out next month. edit - just google'd Soi Full Love Inn and these places are fairly far away.

[QUOTE=Sexmachine1;1835984]Visited Kinnarree Club in the afternoon around 3 pm. Must be a bad timing on my part because there were 3 times more guys than girls. Still had a beer and talked to a couple of girls but they seemed more professional than I was expecting. Price quoted was 500 bar fine + 1000 plus plus. I asked the girl what is plus plus. She said it's the tip. Didn't take me too long to get out of there. Never went back.[/QUOTE]Yes it can be very crowded on Friday and Saturday but most guys there just go have a beer so the girls are available. Unfortunately, you ran into the wrong girl with her 'plus plus'. Did BF increase since end of November? It was 350 baht in November.

BM, I think I was quoted 1200 BF.

[QUOTE=TheCane;1835599]Yeah? Well tell it to Mr. Ho LOL! I don't know how many times I have to say it. You keep going on and on about "numbers available", but numbers don't mean squat if you aren't attracted to the general look! It's not that I'm not attracted to any Thai girls. I'm just not attracted to most of them, and tend to find the ones that are mixed with something else to be the prettiest to my eye.[/QUOTE]Well, yes and no. In general, I'm not attracted to Asian women, Thai girls, for the most part being the exception. My preference is toward Eastern European girls and French Canadian. That said, if you walk into a club and there are 100 girls working there and you can't find any of interest, you're probably made of stone.

I was in Sapphire last night and there were very close to 100 girls. I confess to being very picky, but there were certainly a number (greater than zero) that I'd have been delighted to bring back to my room.

[QUOTE=AmericanThief;1835862]Really tired though going to sleep tonight and check out those gogos tomorrow Saphire and what's up?[/QUOTE]Breadman and I have been spending a good deal of time at Sapphire the last four nights and will be in there again this evening. We'll probably show up right around 9, though my stay will be brief as I'm just stopping in to pick up the girl who has pretty much become my regular while here.

I'll be wearing a t-shirt with what looks, until further inspection, to be a Chicago Cubs logo. Breadman will likely be the tallest guy in the joint and will likely have at least one, if not, two girls bouncing on his lap.

[QUOTE=Regnad;1836014]I was in Sapphire last night and there were very close to 100 girls. I confess to being very picky, but there were certainly a number (greater than zero) that I'd have been delighted to bring back to my room.[/QUOTE]I went to Sapphire and would agree that it was one of the better go-go's. I don't believe there were 100 girls there, but there were a lot. Met one who was super horny. But I have to disagree that just because there are 100 girls in a bar means that you "ought" to be able to find one. The set up has a lot to do with it for one thing. Look at a set up like at Baccara in Bangkok where you can't even see most of the girls on the stage it's so crowded! Doing the "bored shuffle". Between that and being highly selective to start with, good luck finding what you need! You "ought" to be able to find what you like when you can see the girls and they tend to look like what normally turns you on. That's when you should be able to find what you want. I say again. Sheer numbers of girls alone are not enough! They have to look like what you want to fuck too. Most Thai girls don't do it for me.

Hey fellas,

Just a follow up trip report, which is over due and a long one. So I had a bad first day and then redeemed by the second day. My third day ended up being pretty decent. So all in all, it was okay, not as great as my first time. I was here almost exactly one year ago, and because I found such a gem easily and quickly, it really set high expectations and standards for this trip. I broke the first cardinal rule, Always temper expectations, that way you can avoid disappointments.

It's my last night here and I ended up doing lots of touristy things during the day time. Sancturary of truth is breath taking. Mini siam is pretty cool too. I'd avoid nong nooch because it's full of east Asian tourists, whom I hate with a passion when I travel.

Began the night at Baccarra, holy hell the women in here are gorgeous. The place was packed. Which means it's bad news for me, why? I'll explain later. I saw the selection, I have never seen such a large collection of goddesses at one time vying for my dick and money. I left but will return later if I couldn't get something better.

Iron club next because of Napaslapper's suggestion. The women in here weren't great. Place was empty. The hottest woman came up to me and chatted. Her name is Bell, and everything about her was exactly what I was looking for. The best times I've ever had with women are when they:

1. Give me a fair quote: not the tourist chump quote. She wanted 2500ST, which is lower than the 3000ST standard (BTW, I mentioned earlier that this was the price they quoted me, but it's the TOTAL price, which actually includes the barfine. I didn't know this until a girl explained it).

2. Come talk to me first. This shows they've made their choice, there were a few people in the place, but she gets to choose, so she's a bit more willing.

3. Are the hottest one in the whole place. I scan the place, and quickly in my mind I rate and rank each woman. She was very hot and the hottest. It's an ego boost to me when they pick me rather than me having to pick them.

4. Will do my requested services. DFK, BBBJ, CIM. She said yes to all 3, although CIM wasn't easy to convince.

5. Negotiated a lower price. She was willing to do everything for 2000ST, and asked for tip based on service. WOW! She even said if she does a terrible job I can tip 10 baht haha.

Only two downsides to her. Her body wasn't the tightest, I'm used to very tight and toned bodies. Hers was 8. 5/10. And second, she had two snaggle tooths at the opposite ends of her mouth. Even a waiter pointed it out when he didnt know her by her working name. It made her look cute, and I don't need to see her teeth much, but it's not perfect. Hey, I'm fucking picky, sue me. Because of these, I had to go to see if there were better options, but I told her she was my favorite and I would come back for her if I don't find better. Big mistake.

Decided to hit up LK metro and Bukhao. It was ok. I went into Oasis first. The girls on stage weren't great. But the second rotation was a lot better. I kept stealing glances at one of the girls who was with a customer, and she glanced back at me twice. When she got on stage, she flirted pretty hard. I never try to steal a girl from a customer, I would feel like shit if that happened to me. But at the same time, hurry up and make your move buddy, can't sleep on it all day!

Head over to Showgirls. Sat right in the front. Terrible selection, but at least they put on shows between sets. Two girls licking champagne from each other. The girls go on stage and dance a little bit, it was depressing and the girls looked sad. And the next show was 5 girls performing oral on a banana. You could tell how poor their skills were from what they were doing to the bananas, nevermind your own banana!

Had a chicken kebab from one of the million chicken kebab places. It was fantastic! Must have a huge Turkish presence around here.

The area was a bust for me. The place is good if you're looking for value or are on a budget. It's a toned down version of walking street. Best part? No fucking tourists or east Asians!

Head back to Iron club. Bell got barfined. FUCK!

Head back to bacarra. OMG, the girls have gotten hotter. Picked a hot girl with a great body, her name is Apple, she looked Japanese. Super shy and demure, she wouldn't even show me her tits. Won't budge on 3000ST, no additional services either. Damn, she knows she's hot and some chump will pay her asking price. I HATE EAST ASIAN TOURSTS! THEY ARE RUINING EVERYTHING! Saw another gorgeous girl, her name is Lud or something, couldn't hear her since the music was so loud. But I liked her also because she looked different and was working the pole pretty hard. She has blonde hair, 29, great tits, but a small and somewhat flat butt. Same fee and service as Apple. She's fucking hot and knows someone will pay her ridiculous fee. Faaaaackkkkk. Donut from two nights ago sees me while she's on stage and waves to me, while I'm talking to Lud. When talks break down with me and Lud, Donut comes over and asks how I'm doing and she's friends with Lud. They speak in Thai, apparently Lud told her I'm not interested in BFing her and Donut can have me. She told Lud she was getting barfined and wanted to give me the option first. That's pretty fucked up I think. A customer has barfined her, but she comes to me to give me first option, which I declined because I didn't think she was too interested from a few nights ago, but now that she's interested, I'm interested. I had no clue this conversation was happening until AFTER donut left. I couldn't remember what services she offered, but asked, and she does kissing and BBBJ. At the end of the day, it's a business, and her body and choice. If she wants to barfine with someone else, that's totally up to her. But she's leaving now, and she told me she would be back in an hour. I'm not going to wait that long. I stuck around to finish my drink and watch these asshole East Asians throw money around like the morons that they are. Literally, just getting on stage and tossing wads of 20's all over the place, several times! These guys probably get soaked for lady drinks, barfine for LT price, and probably does the deed for 5 minutes (because they are chumps in the sack) and then let them go early.

Well, pretty disappointed at this point and just head into Skyfall. It was getting late. Talked to some cuties here, but starting to notice their English is awful and they couldn't understand anything I was saying. The place is getting bare, many girls have been barfined. I didn't want to go back to bacarra because it proves that they have all the leverage if I came back a THIRD time that night, which is pretty dumb on my part, I would have paid less there than at skyfall for the same shit, if not hotter girl. I saw this one girl who I did want to talk to get barfined, on her way to get changed and her way coming back out, she gave me the evil stare the entire time, I felt like she wanted me to talk to her and barfine her instead of the person that ended up doing it. I'm very selective and want to see what my options are before I make a move.

I needed to make a decision soon. I saw a really adorable girl, her name is Bee, 25, so I pulled her to me. She's so fucking cute, it's insane. She looks like a tall and slimmer version of Tila Tequila or Jamie Chung. Unfortunately, the clothes she had on deceived her body, super padded pushup bra, tight, revealing, and forming short-shorts. The way she is reminds me of the girls I would date during my first year in college (although I want to say senior year of highschool without feeling like a chester. She finished every sentence with the word "Ha? "You dink I'm sexy, ha? "where you frum, ha?" She would also respond to every dirty thing I said with: "Oooooyyyyy! She wasn't willing to give me too many services, but was willing to lower her rate down to 2500ST. She will kiss. I asked if I could eat her pussy since I want some pad thai, and she said she'll think about it. I asked her to bring and wear that sexy rope legging everyone was wearing here and at bacarra.

Head back to my hotel. Shower. Make out. DATY with fingerbang. She looks at my cock and says "you fuck a lot". Hahah she could tell women who smoke a lot and men who fuck a lot, those are her gifts. Seriously, this girl cannot get any more cute. She didn't want to drop the pricing down because she thought we would be fucking hard and for a long time, but that wasn't the case. I'm exhausted and want to go to bed, I have an early bus to catch. We start in mish and I take her to pound town. Her English is bad, she couldn't understand anything I was saying. I ended up finishing pretty quickly to her amazement. Something about her got me off quick. We get cleaned up and play around for a bit, but I kicked her out soon after.

Sorry for the super long post, but I feel if a newbie comes in and reads this, it's all he needs. I'm not too sure if pattaya has changed too much, my first time was pretty limited. But now I have a good feel for the place. If it's like this year round, I'd avoid it. If it's only like this during Chinese New Year, then it's tolerable. Even so, you can come visit during peak season and not do WS, although the quality suffers a good amount. What is happening to pattaya is having an opposite effect on Angeles city. The tourist friendliness is attracting a lot of high paying customers, who attract some of the hottest ass from around the country, however, the service and prices has probably gone to shit. Versus in Angeles city, it's trying to be tourist friendly by killing the walking street there, so they can't get customers or hot girls willing to do a lot for so little.

Anyways, currently in Bangkok, and unfortunately, the same thing is happening here as well.

[QUOTE=IllusionHeart;1835049]Christian, I had read some time back. I think Blanquiceleste had updated an FR about it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ChristianG;1835037]When? Last December was open.[/QUOTE]I was there in July 2015 and it was definitely closed. The shop next door that looks partially like a garage told me that Telephone bar had closed and he handed me a VIP pass for Bar De La Poste saying its a bar opened in Soi Lengkee by the same management. The helpful guy even called a motorbike taxi for me over the phone as Soi Batman was quite empty at that time of the day.

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I'm not a big fan of soi 6. I rather take the girl to the comfort of my room so soi 7 works better for me. Again, quality was down but I was always able to find 1 to my liking. Girls had a very nice attitude there. I bar fined once for 400 Baht and 1000 baht for the girl. Next time, at a different bar at soi 7, I was quoted 500 baht bar fine and 1000 baht for the girl. Not sure if that was the rate or I got screwed over meagre 100 baht.

SexMachine1.[/QUOTE]Any specifics on which bars on Soi 7?

I just throw in the towel. More like pick one with the best attitude despite not being physically attracted. If they put in enough effort and enjoy the drink, give good company and can get me semi excited, that's enough for me to hand them my other joiner towel in room. As Forrest Gump said, box of chocolates.

I visit once a year, looking to increase it to twice, so I try to not sleep alone any of the nights.

[QUOTE=Sexmachine1;1835984]From Macau to Angeles city to Pattaya. This was our last stop. Was travelling with my wingman KC. We always stay at Hotel Jasmine, on soi BJ. Just off the walking street. Very quiet and being so close to the action. Price of 800 Baht for a decent superior room on the 3rd floor. I will not bore anyone with the same info about pattaya since most has been covered but I will post some observations and experiences -.

Overall girl quality seemed down, compared to only 9 months ago. We were there in April 2015. Go gos, beer gardens, ibar, insomnia, soi 7 etc. I didn't see as many young, slim, pretty, attractive girls. Don't get me wrong. There were still plenty of girls but quantity of those ones was very low IMO.

It seemed slow for the mongering. Overall, no. Of tourists is up but almost every mongering place told us that business was very slow. Even saw a couple of go gos closed down. Our hotel was probably 80% vacant. Manager said hotel was hurting big time. Many go go bars were pretty empty at 10 pm. Beer gardens everywhere seemed slow as well.

We got hooked on Sapphire go go. They've got over 60 girls. We went here every night around 8 pm to 10 pm. Their large Chang draft was only 95 baht. I drank 2 every night and bought 3 lady drinks to the girl. She always stayed with me for the entire time I was there. Kissing, grinding, massaging etc. Total bill was under 800 Baht. Can not go wrong for about $20. Some very pretty girls. Great atmosphere. No pressure to buy drinks. Pretty relaxing and fun place. From here, we moved on to What's up.

The best looking girls are in go gos, we know that. But What's up has the best looking girls of all the go gos. Many girls don't even look Thai. We went here every day as well. Upstairs or downstairs. Beautiful girls. Great attitude. For 2 drinks, girls sat with us for about an hour and we had amazing time with them every night. They've got more than 80 girls. Average girl quality is way better than any other place. Nice shows as well. From here, we moved on to ibar and later insomnia...[/QUOTE]Had to say thanks for all this info on your time in Patts. I was in Kinnaree a few months ago and agree w / your assessment. The ladies are f-ing arrogant there, I had a good time but don't like to be played. My gogos last trip were Electric Blue and Pussycat Dolls, a few others I would pop into, Pussycat Dolls had a raunchy Philippines feel to it, it was worth spending time in. I will check out some of the places you mentioned when I get there in a couple of months. Reports like yours are very helpful, thanks again.

Many seasoned travellers will agree that the Chinese New Year break is probably the worst time to travel anywhere in SEA. Expensive flights, hotel tariffs that can be labelled extortionist, crowded streets and tourist spots and a mad rush for shopping. But a week ahead of the CNY break is possibly the best time to travel.

I had read about Air Asia commencing scheduled flights to you-Tapao airport in Rayong from Nov 2015. This airport is a Naval Airbase and is a popular destination for charter flights coming in from Russia & China. I even saw a 777-300 ER aircraft belonging to Mongolian Airlines. A real long hop.

While the airport leaves much to be desired, the beauty is you can be at Pattaya (beach road) in less than an hour and it takes a sum of 800 thb to get here by private taxi. Cheaper options are available depending on time of the day.

Night / Day 1 - 03/04 Feb.

My Air Asia flight, a well maintained A320 aircraft landed at 2220 hours on Wed 03 Feb. Since this was the last flight for the day I did not anticipate a crowd at immigration. But since there were just 3 counters operating at that time (and at all other times too) it took a while to get past. I dread to think what would happen if 3 or 4 flights land in a short time span. Just ONE baggage belt. Not much to shop after baggage collection.

I had done a bit of online hunting before I got here. #1 on the list was a 24 yo spinner May who freelances at Hollywood club. Now I can't think of a reason but this girl insisted on coming to the airport to receive me. I felt a bit odd at this proposal but I did not argue. May showed up at the arrival gate with flowers!! I was impressed. She looked good smelt good and was dressed well in street clothes. Like a girlfriend! 5555.

So we got into the taxi and started moving out and May and I got busy in the rear seat of the spacious Camry sent by VR Taxi. About 15 minutes into the drive May got real horny and wanted to do it right inside the car. So I had to stop the car step out to open my baggage and pull out a condom. A mental note made to carry one in my pocket at all times when on travels like this.

The driver did not protest and we got busy for the next 20 min or so. A quickie. What's great is that most of the way from UTP to PYX is remote unpopulated land, affording you with all the privacy you need. As soon as we reached the main city roads we sobered up. Nothing great about the sex but the setting made it thrilling. I reached my hotel in Soi 8 by midnight. I slipped 1200 thb into May's hands on getting out of the car and told her I wasn't to sleep as I am very tired. She was a bit disappointed but then I had other plans.

So after settling in for a while I decided to go to WS and get some eye candy and perhaps some more. Stopped first at Sensations. Random choice? No! The incredibly cute door girl named Fern caught my hand and dragged me in. So after 1 drink for me and 1 for Fern I asked her if she wanted to go out ST. She agreed. 800 BF + 2500ST. It's a lot by PYX pricing structures but I was smitten. Took her back to the hotel and made sweet love to her. Then we showered and Fern sat with me for some time and we had another drink each in my room. You got to love a girl who drinks whisky! Now Fern got a bit tipsy from the smooth single malt that was almost as aged as she was and she wanted another roll in the hay. Who am I to disagree? Round 2 was even better with some amazing DFK and body painting by Fern. We finished up and I sent her away with 2700 thb.

It was 4. 30 am now. But I wasn't sleepy so I got online and hit up a few chicks in the neighbourhood thru WeChat. Found a 26 yo lady named Ja'Ao who was willing to come over in 30 min. Interviewed over chat and the deal was struck at 1500 thb. She came only after an hour and I was starting to feel sleepy now. To cut a long story short Ja'Ao was nothing special. We slept right after she arrived without any sex but she made up for it by servicing the morning wood very well. I let her go by noon with 1600 thb. Now she sends 10 messages per hour!

Total damages for the day – 6700 thb on drinks, barfines and 3 girls.

Day 2 - 04 Feb.

I walked over to Sailor Bar and Restaurant after Ja'Ao left and had a hearty full English breakfast with a great pot of coffee to wake me up fully.

Next stop Soi 6. Reached by 2 pm. Most bars had a sprinkling of girls but nothing that caught my eye. After walking up and down once I decided to enter Ruby. Had a drink and chatted with the bartender who was pretty good looking herself. Somehow I did not get a good vibe from the girls in this bar. I remembered reading contrasting reports about this bar. Next, I sauntered over to Route 69. As I entered the bar I spotted a real cutie. Smiled at her and contact was established. Kookick is 23 yo and all of 4'10" weighing less than 100 lbs. Got her a drink and started chatting. In about 10 min I was offered a three some with Kookick and her friend Bai. I declined politely but got Bai a drink anyway. After the drink we went up for a nice slow well laid out session. A+ offered. A change of condom and offer accepted. Paid her 1100 thb and settled the bill and BF of 800 thb.

It was now around 4. 30 pm and I was in the mood for a nice massage. So I walked back to the hotel (a good 15 min walk) and ducked into the massage parlour at Eastiny Place. The masseuse Wan gave me a wonderful 90 min oil massage and got me relaxed.

6 pm. Back in my room I hit up the online hunt again. I had previously chatted up a girl named Jeerapa who works at the Padi diving centre. 24 yo, never married, no kids, 2 previous boyfriends, now single, not had sex in over 4 months but pleasures herself occasionally. The last two points piqued my interest in her. She said she would come to meet me by 10 pm. Perfect. I took a much needed nap for a couple of hours. Jeerapa showed up by 1030 pm and she looked absolutely splendid. Here was a girl dressed in her little black dress for a dinner and a show. She was out on a real date. She had a bag with her to carry change clothes and other supplies. Change in plan. I shaved and showered, dressed up well and took her out to 808 first. Then onward to iBar. After iBar while walking back, I politely declined a couple of catcalls from the GoGo door girls. At this point, this gem told me she had never been inside a GoGo bar and was curious to know more. So I took her to Sugarbaby and we got a table and got a couple of drinks. She was totally blown off at what she saw and I can tell there was genuine bewilderment in her eyes. So we finished out drink and headed back to the hotel by 2 am.

Back in the room Jeerapa was a real passionate fuck. Average BBBJ skills but she made up for it by offering bareback. I am a big advocate for safe sex but here was a genuine good girl looking for a good time. I made it clear to her that I won't shoot my load inside for which she thanked me. I lovingly shagged her for a long time into the wee hours of morning. I think we slept by 6 am or so. I was woken up by Jeerapa at 10 am as she had to leave for work. As she went in to shower I slipped 3000 thb into her Chanel clutch. She came out from the shower and looked even more beautiful without makeup and I was getting a stiffie by just watching her get dressed in day clothes. A simple white shirt and cut away jeans and red sneakers. Well. Nothing much I could have done to stop her. So I let her go and went back to bed.

Total damages for the day – 5900 thb on drinks, barfines and 2 girls.

Day 3 - 05 Feb.

I woke again by 2 pm with a slightly heavy head. So I headed over to Sailor for a greasy breakfast and plenty of cold water.

I had read some reviews about a new BJ bar called LE Rouge located way out in Darkside. Soi Khao Noi to be precise. Motorbike taxi to the place cost me 100 thb. The place has good ambience, dimly lit in red lights, music from the 70's and 80's, reasonably comfortable seating in red decor and cheap drinks. They even have a pool table for guests to play for free. It's a bad table but it's still there and it's free. But the one thing you go there for, the girls, are woefully few in numbers and utterly disappointing in quality. But then I rationalized by saying to myself that a BJ is not about looks but about skills. And I had spent time energy and money in getting here. So I picked out a lady and got her a drink. LDs are 110 thb. 300 BF and 500 for the BJ. Invariably the crew will try and upsell LDs and it's hard to refuse when the girl has your nuts between her teeth. The BJ itself was good but I won't be back here again.

Finished up by 4. 30 pm and headed back to the hotel and went back to sleep. Tonight I had planned to do some GoGo hopping. I have mentioned in previous reports that GoGo bars are really not my scene and it has been a long time since I have gone to a GoGo bar in Pattaya. Bangkok has limited options and hence GoGo bars are acceptable there, but in Pattaya I almost exclusively pick up girls from venues other than GoGo bars. But after reading some compelling reports about the quality of girls in GoGo bars I had decided I will do this trip this time.

I woke by 6. 30 pm shaved showered dressed and set out. I covered LK Metro first and then Walking Street and nearby Sois. In particular order here is a recount. Warning! Long Post.

1. Destiny. LK Metro. Not a very large club. Quite intimate in my view. About 20 to 25 girls on rotations of 8 each. The ones in red dance topless while the ones in white do not take of their bra. Drinks are moderately expensive. A whisky costs 170 thb and LD costs 240 thb. Shots in bulk can be bought for girls. 1000 thb for 10 shots. 3000 thb to ring the bell. I called over #39 for a drink. Cute chick, very friendly, available and willing to do everything. 600 BF + 2000ST. But I was on a mission. So I gathered the intelligence, finished my drink and exited promising to return soon. Time spent 30 minutes.

2. Sugar. LK Metro. Large bar. 2 entrances. Very sad lineup and I regretted ordering a drink. Slightly cheaper drinks. A whisky cost me 130 thb. I did not check LD prices or BF and ST rates. Strangely this bar was packed wall to wall with guests while Destiny with a much better line up was relatively empty. I left the bar without finishing my drink and walked in next door to Paradise. Time spent less than 15 minutes.

3. Paradise. LK Metro. Clearly this one has the right direction about how a bar should be run. 30 to 35 girls all of them easily 7. 5 and above. Black and white decor with custom lighting on tables. Great aircon and friendly waitresses. Got a whisky at 150 thb and within 10 minutes called over 2 hotties for a LD each. If I remember right they were numbered 19 and 57. Both of them were absolutely gorgeous and provided me some wonderful entertainment in the bar. LDs are 240 thb again. 4 LDs in all purchased. BF 700 and ST on offer was 2500. I was offered a threesome with a discount of 20%. Here it was harder to shake off the girls as they had invested a lot of time in warming me up. But I held my ground and politely left the bar. Time spent about an hour.

The weather was good and it was just shy of 9. 00 pm. Got a motorbike taxi to drop me off at WS. At the entrance of WS I had a tender coconut and felt refreshed. Time to round up the GoGos on WS.

4. Taboo – A new GoGo on the right as soon as you enter WS. I think this was Lighthouse previously? Went in, looked around and saw all of 2 customers. Did not take a seat. Walked around the stage area to take a good look at the scant number of girls dancing lazily and proceeded to exit. Time spent less than 5 minutes.

5. Sensations – Now this was a GoGo where I had picked up the door girl Fern 2 nights ago. She saw me and dragged me in again and begged me to barfine her again. But I told her "man butterfly" and she made a face. I called her inside for a drink anyway and she joined me. Inside I got another tall slim chick from Chiang Mai named Nina to come over for a drink. Can't remember her number. Left after 45 minutes. I knew the barfine + fee structure here.

6. Alcatraz – This bar is up for sale as reported on the forum a few days back. However, it looked pretty OK to me from outside. Inside was nothing special. I had a drink though, but really did not find anyone worth calling over. Left in under 20 minutes without finishing my drink.

7. Glasshouse – I think this one is a bit underrated. I found to really good looking girls here. Numbers were 18 and 54.18, Nom in particular was all over me right after her first tequila shot. 54 was more reticent. So I sent her off and called another drink for Nom. More fun to be had. After 45 minutes I left amidst impassioned pleas from Nom to barfine her. Barfine is 800 and she was willing to go for ST or LT. ST offered at 2000 and LT at 4000.

8. Windmill – Next up was Windmill, one of my old time favourites. The naughtiest club in Pattaya. I went in and the place was packed. I had to sit next to a rather young chap, presumably from the US who had 5 girls all over him and a bunch of drinks on his table. I settled in and sipped on my 5th drink for the night. Looked around at the bevy of naked beauties. Sadly, the quality of girls has gone a lot more south than what I remember this place for. I called over numbers 36 and 47 and got them 3 shots each. Soon they were all over each other and then me. I was now starting to get a real hard on. But it was only quarter past midnight so I slowly finished my drink and left the club after nearly losing my tongue to 36, Lek. No pressures to barfine and I frankly think the girls did not want to go out either.

9. Gentleman – Bad choice to enter, at least for tonight. I had read some decent reviews so my expectations were higher. Like in did before at Taboo I left the bar in less than 5 minutes.

10. What's Up – Another favorite of mine and as reported by Natty, this bar lived up to all my expectations. Got a seat luckily as a Japanese gent was leaving as I entered, else the bar was packed and the atmosphere was rocking. Spent an amazing 1 hour here. I had 1 drink and some water and had the stunning Ooi for drinks. I think I got her 4 drinks. BF 1000 + ST 3000 offered. I told Ooi "I drink too much, no power, I go sa-leep" and left the bar close to 2 am. AS soon as I stepped out I had a twinge of regret for not taking Ooi to my room.

11. Baccara – Went into Baccara and headed upstairs. Called only for a bottle of nam-pao. The waitress frowned but I was clear I wanted only water. She grudgingly got me the bottle and left it on my table. I had to ask her to get me a glass with ice in it. She asked me "you no want drink mister?" This pissed me off and I got up, paid for the water and left. I don't get it why people HAVE to drink in a bar. I like AC for this reason, no pressure to buy a drink for yourself as loon as your wallet is open for the girls.

12. Skyfall – I finally stumbled into Skyfall by a little after 2 am. I was definitely high now and I needed a bit of a breather before I could drink again. Skyfall, I think is the best GoGo bar now on the strip. Although it has a long stage and it's hard to view all girls on display from a single seat, the quality of girls here is simply a cut above the rest, IMHO. The alcohol may have played a role in this conclusion. The only thing that I did not like was there were a lot of male waiters and ushers inside and some stood right in the middle sometimes blocking my view. Soon, I spotted number 120. Aom is from Buriram and she was very pretty and talkative. After the first shot went down, she stood up and started shaking her booty in front of my face. That ass can launch a million cocks for sure. As I called for her 2nd drink two more of her friends came over and got friendly. They were numbers 125 and 128 but I don't recollect their names. 128 was especially naughty and flexible with her antics. But I was taken in by Aom. After my second drink I asked her for details. BF 1000 + ST 3000 / LT 5000. By then the little had had also taken over and I said yes to ST with a and option to convert after sampling the goods. I was ready to go to town.

It was my most expensive indulgence ever in Thailand turned out to be worth every penny. Back in the room we showered together followed by a real deep throat BBBJ in the shower which continued in the balcony. We then went at it like rabbits and I banged her in missionary and cowgirl. Then Aom pulled off the condom and gave me a BBBJ again as I lovingly performed a DATY on her. With the second condom on I entered her from behind and stuck a finger in her ass to which she did not protest. After a while of back and forth I exploded and fell over her. We lay coiled up like that and fell asleep. I don't know what time I fell asleep but we woke at 9 am. Aom went under the sheets and serviced the morning wood beautifully. She really knew her way around a man's pleasures. We were at it once again and finished up this time with her on top. Then as I went to the bathroom to clean up she fixed me a cup of coffee and lit me a cigarette. We sat out in the balcony and chatted for a hour while kissing each other in between sentences. This girl knows and loves her soccer. An ardent fan of Buriram United FC and a keen follower of the Premier League and La Liga. Don't you love such a girl? Sadly she wanted to leave by noon, so she went in for a bath. I sneaked into the shower and started doing a DATY on her again. She responded with a BBBJ and ensure that I finished in the shower inside her mouth. I was spent and tired so I did not last long or come massively. But it was enjoyable. We dried up each other and dressed and she got going. I put the promised LT amount along with another 100 thb into her bag and she left with a broad smile and a promise to see me again.

Total damages for the day – 14600 thb on drinks, barfines and 1 girl + 1 BJ + endless fun. A tiny regret for not visiting Sapphire.

Day 4 - 06 Feb.

Despite the several drinks I had the previous night I felt pretty good. So I fired up the social media engines again and did some scanning. I hit on a cute girl name Chutima who worked at Mike Shopping Mall in a jewellery store. But she was available to come only by 5 pm. I agreed. I had also hit upon another classic Thai beauty named Kay (name changed to protect identity of this non-pro girl) who apparently worked at Pattaya Country Club & resort which was well over 25 km away. But she lived closer to Sukhumvit Road. She said she could come over by 9 pm. So I had two dates fixed for 5 pm and 9 pm. And I had another 3 hours to kill now.

So I took a motorbike taxi and left for Kinnaree Place. I had not been to this place in over 4 years and I wanted to take a look. Plus if I remembered right, Saturdays was BBQ day, and I remember the food there being great. Nothing much has changed. The theécor and layout is the same and the food is just as good as I remembered it. The girls were fewer and less pretty than what I expected. But I had to kill time so I hung around, bought a drink for myself and a lady named Pim and took in the relaxed atmosphere. Soon another girl named Zen also joined. Got her a drink but somehow did not connect too well with her. I sent her away after a drink and got Pim another drink. A good decision to come here in the end, as it really helped me relax. Pim had a great pair of hands and worked the shoulders and back expertly. After about 30 minutes of massage she offered me a ST. I declined and told her to continue the massage as I got her another drink. Finally by 3 pm I got up, handed 200 thb to Pim for her efforts and made my way back to Soi 8 and settled in for Chutima to arrive.

The girl was on time but she looked less pretty than her pictures. Still a solid 7. We sat and chatted for a while. She was hungry so I got some room service for her. Once done with the food I asked her to come sit close to me on the bed. She agreed but I could tell from her body language that she was not comfortable. So I asked her if she really wanted to do this and practically re-interviewed her. At this point she bailed out and said she was not a professional and started crying. I got nervous and all sorts of thoughts crossed my mind. So I told her to calm down and that she could leave right away if she wanted to. I stuffed 200 thb in her tiny hands and escorted her down to the hotel reception, got her ID card, led her out of the hotel, flagged down a motorbike taxi and sent her on her way. What a shame!

It was still only 6 pm so I hopped across to Soi 6. After walking the length of the street from the Second Road end, I entered Red Point bar. I was greeted by 2 girls Tai & Nan. I went in with both and got them a drink each, while I had only water. The deal went down quickly. I chose Nan as I thought she had a better body and more spunk, although Tai's face was a lot more beautiful. The regular 300 BF + 1000ST. I settled the BF + drinks tab and went up. Nothing special to write about except that I was offered A+ which I refused. Shower, BBBJ and sex in all positions. Banged her mercilessly and I realised I was actually venting my frustration over what happened some time ago at the hotel. So I calmed down and tried to enjoy the sex. But I could not, so I pulled out without finishing and asked Nan to clean up. She was a bit confused and she said "why you no come, no happy man? I not good lady for you? I do good boom boom for you, try again. " And she started to blow me once again with renewed vigour. I must say she did a fantastic job as she managed to get me all horny again. She put another condom on my pole and started riding me wildly. I started enjoying this and went all the way in the next 10 minutes. A session well salvaged by the talented Nan. I gave her 1200 thb for her troubles and went on my way.

It was now 8 pm so I texted Kay to check her whereabouts. I got a bit worried when there was no reply for over 30 minutes. So I called. No response. It was my last night in Pattaya and I did not plan to end it this way. So I decided to step out for some hunting. As I was wearing my shoes my phone range. It was Kay. She was profusely apologetic about not replying to my texts and not taking my call. She said she would be able to reach by 10.30 pm. I agreed to wait for her and asked her if she would have dinner with me. She replied affirmatively. So I waited for the next hour or so constructing this report. Kay arrived at 10.20 pm and called me. I went down to meet her and I was completely blown away by her looks. Here was a girl who could walk the ramp. She was dressed in a black silk suit and wore matt black pumps with small heels. Her hair was done up in a bun and she had tiny diamond studs on her ears. She wore almost no makeup except for some lipstick. She looked absolutely stunning and I wanted her right away. But I had promised her dinner so I asked her what she wanted to eat. Pizza was her choice. Those who know will agree that the tiny Pizzeria right outside Frog Bar in the Simon complex of Walking Street makes some great pizza. So I decided to take her there, so we go also shake a leg later if she felt like it.

Man this girl can really eat. We both devoured the pizza along with a beer. During the wait for the pizza and over dinner, we both chatted up on a variety of subjects and we hit it off pretty well. She was 23 yo, never married, no kids, one Swedish boyfriend before who ditched her for another girl, lives by herself and works at the Golf Club as a senior accountant. She was smart, educated and articulate. Spoke good English. She said she was selective about the people she went out on dates with. So I asked her what intrigued her and she said my musical inclinations were of particular interest to her. That led to another long conversation over Classic Rock. I was falling in love with this girl on my last night in Pattaya. After dinner I asked her if she wanted to go to a disco. She said yes, but after a while. So we hung out at the bar on the far end of the Simon complex (Rolling Live) watching the bay and talking some more about Led Zeppelin. By 12.30 am we both agreed to go to Insomnia. We stayed inside for an hour and had 2 drinks each. Danced close, kissed and cuddled at the disco. We both were into each other for sure. We left the club after 1. 30 am and headed back to the hotel.

Back in the room we showered separately, me first. I was out in the balcony enjoying a cigarette when she came out. She sat on my lap and started to kiss me. Gosh! I wanted her now, so I put away the cigarette and got real busy with Kay. Her body was fabulous. Taut, flawless skin, not brown but not white either. Firm 34 B cups with perky upward pointing nipples. Washboard flat tummy. Near perfect waist to hips ratio. Clean shaven below. I was having a raging hard on and had no patience for a blowjob. I grabbed the condom and went at it. First gently and then gathered momentum. From her moans and her squirming I could tell she was really enjoying it too. After a slow passionate session in missionary I got pout and went down on her. Her squeals and moans got louder and her breathing got faster. I kept at it for a while till she had the big O a couple of times. She then ripped my condom away and gave me a very passionate BBBJ. Not the best I have received but not the worst either. Here was a girl doing it with passion and not as a job. After some time I got the second condom on and went back to missionary. Soon she came on top of me and banged me like there was no tomorrow. I fired my gun and she fell over me. We then kept kissing in that position for what felt like eternity. Got up and cleaned, lit up a cigarette and again spent time talking about Golf. She was impressed with my handicap although I know it is nothing to brag about. I showed her my handicap card and she wanted to take a picture of it with her cell phone. I obliged. By now it was 3. 30 am and we were both tired and sleepy. So we went off to bed, kissing and cuddling. I finally fell asleep spooning her.

I woke next morning at 8. 30 am and gently nibbled at her ears. She stirred and turned around to kiss me. Soon we got going again. This time she wanted to bareback and I just could not say no. It was one of my best shags ever. We kept going for a long time and finally finished in a heap. I looked at the watch and it was 11,00 am. I had to check out by noon and head to the airport at 2 pm. So I got up to pack and Kay joined me in putting my stuff together. She had tears welling up in her eyes. I asked her what was the matter and she said she is going to miss me a lot when I am gone. I was speechless. We both dressed and I slipped 3000 thb into her purse. She noticed me doing that and protested. She did not want any money. But I insisted and asked her to buy herself something nice on my behalf. After a bit of cajoling, she reluctantly agreed. I took her down to Sailor and we had breakfast together. She was very quiet all along and she had those watery eyes. I knew this was getting into dangerous territory, so I told her that she should not worry and we will keep in touch thru Skype and see each other again soon. She smiled thru her tears. After the meal I got a motorbike taxi and sent her on her way.

Total damages for the day – 7000 thb on drinks, barfines and 2 girl + 1 failed attempt. Not bad.

Day 05 – 07 Feb.

Still another hour to kill before my taxi took me to the airport. So I went back to Eastiny for a and hour long foot massage. Felt good after that. My taxi arrived promptly at 2 pm and took me to the airport. After a brief wait there, I boarded my flight and made my way back home. A real fun, fast-paced, fulfilling trip. A big hook to return again soon – Kay. And a few girls I met at the GoGo bars will keep reminding me to return soon. Absolutely love them, these Thai girls!

[QUOTE=Sexmachine1;1835984]



I'm not a big fan of soi 6. I rather take the girl to the comfort of my room .....

SexMachine1.[/QUOTE]You can bar fine Soi 6 girls for about 300 B extra. I had a nice session with one girl and I went back two days later, saw her there and felt she was again the best looking girl on the street, so I LT'd her back to my hotel for a few hours. She was happy to get out of there. I am planning to do that more on my next trip, as I am more comfortable back at the hotel, too.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1836435]
My Air Asia flight, a well maintained A320 aircraft landed at 2220 hours on Wed 03 Feb.

I had done a bit of online hunting before I got here. #1 on the list was a 24 yo spinner May who freelances at Hollywood club. Now I can't think of a reason but this girl insisted on coming to the airport to receive me. I felt a bit odd at this proposal but I did not argue. May showed up at the arrival gate with flowers!! I was impressed. She looked good smelt good and was dressed well in street clothes. Like a girlfriend! 5555.

So we got into the taxi and started moving out and May and I got busy in the rear seat of the spacious Camry sent by VR Taxi. About 15 minutes into the drive May got real horny and wanted to do it right inside the car. So I had to stop the car step out to open my baggage and pull out a condom. A mental note made to carry one in my pocket at all times when on travels like this.

The driver did not protest and we got busy for the next 20 min or so. A quickie. [/QUOTE]This post made me smile. Way to Go! I nominate this report as "the best quickie limo ride to Pattaya" in 2016. 555. Woof! You Dog!

Nice set of reviews, Blanquiceleste. Good work with May. 12 gogo clubs in a night. You're my type of guy!

I'm pretty sure I've said this before but since I read 2 reviews this week about few girls at Kinnaree early in the day, I wanted to re-emphasize that most girls do not start arriving until 3 pm. It's odd since the same girls all leave at 7 pm. Oh well at least you got to eat good BBQ ribs.

OK I need to give Baccara another chance next month. Too many good reports here makes me think I just hit it at a bad time.

Cane, there were 100 girls at Sapphire on my 10+ visits in Nov. Of course as the night goes on and girls are BF'd, this number will drop. Weekends had fewer girls since more were BF'd. There is a board near the washroom that tells you who is there. I always saw 5 groups of 20 when I arrived.

Woke up late the other day, took me some time, bit hung over after a long weekend. Figured I'd just take the day slow and see what came to me instead of trying to hunt it down. Ended up swinging by soi 6 and the plan was to hang out and pound down some beers and see what girls caught my attention. Was flagged down by sister #1 l I did this weekend, figured her bar was as good as any to see what there was to see. Problem was her hands kept going into my pants. Not a bad thing but also not good if your trying to view the talent. Then out walks her half sister #2 (same mother, different fathers). Thought to myself wish there was a way to take her sister upstairs but sister #1 wasn't giving any other girls a chance to cut in. These are the same two half sisters who my buddy and I both fucked in the same room this weekend (room shortage) and since I was taking too long to finish, he sent his girl over to help her sister out. Sister #2 gave the most amazing blow job, finished me off in a few minutes. So I'm sitting at my corner stool with the sister #1 draped all over me so, fighting off the dreaded HJ and blow job attempts left and right. So I tell her to grab her and sister #2 a drink. Sister #1 leaves and comes back with a drink but fails to inform sister #2 of the offer. So I pointed across the bar at sister #2 and made the drink signal and she comes running over, asks when my buddy is coming back in town. So she bolts to get herself a drink, now I've got both sisters in front of me. And the thought hit me like a sack of bricks "why choose just one? So I said bye to my other buddy Regnad who had jointed us for a drink and upstairs I went with two half sisters.

We get in the room and my sister #1 is obviously a little upset, sister #2 takes me to the shower and proceeds to scrub and suck my dick some. Once the action got started both sisters 'got along' but not in the sexual way, no sexual contact between them unfortunately. Let sister #2 start off the BJ round, then started to take turns on both. Put them both in the doggy position and would finger one while I fucked the other (and vice versa). Then let both sisters take turns riding me. After 30 minutes or so of fun I decided enough was enough, just take sister #2's fantastic BJ and end this momentous occasion. Sister #2 is now going full bore, taking my entire dick down her throat when sister #1 decides to throw her tongue into the action and starts licking my balls. Not sure if she was trying to avoid sister #2's contact but her tongue worked its was south to the sweet spot. Hard to hold on much longer, let go a massive load into sister #2's mouth which caused the action to stop and she mumbled 'everything ok' with my load still in her mouth. Another round of cleanup, this time with both sisters and sister #2 decides to relieve herself on the toilet that's so conveniently placed inside the shower. So I head over and sister #2 starts sucking away again. But I was just too done in for another round. 1000 baht to both sisters and bought another round of drinks for all. Sister #2 was all over me down at the bar, upsetting sister #1 even more. Regnad again swings by and off we went, hopped on a baht bus and as we are boarding my Line chat beeps. I look at him without even pulling out the phone and say "my line went off, bet its sister #1 sending me an imodagram of her crying". I was wrong, it was three imodagrams of her crying.

My day is done I think, what's left but to hit the gogo's and drink some more. We swing by some beer bars around soi 8 and grab some food. I hang out at several of those bars over the years and the girls know me pretty well. There's one smoking hot one with nice large see's, fantastic face and a curvy butt. We saw her earlier that day, getting drinks bought for her left and right. So I sit down and offer her a drink as well, didn't say more than two words to her and she's acting like I'm her long lost boyfriend, petting my leg and reaching inside for some play. She's pretty lit, things are getting interesting. Am I getting played? I've seen the 'drunk act' many times in the gogo's, the girl acts like she's drunk and horny but when she asks for another drink you know its just a game. So I say 'its my birthday' and see if I can get a little peck on the cheek, she turns my face back and gives me full tongue action. Hey, another round for everybody. Am I getting played? Don't think it matters much after you've just fucked two sisters. Day can't get any more intersting can it? Ohhhhh, yes it can. Barfine my new favorite bar girl and off we go to the hotel. Fantastic body on this one, her kissing is even more intense and she's now sucking my dick and mumbling 'I've never seen one so big'. So now its time to get into that pussy, that's when I found out what a screamer she was. I felt bad for the guy next door when I was pounding away and she's screaming like she was hit by a truck. Guy next door must have hated me at 10 pm. He probably wants to kill me after our 5 am romp. She's screaming away again so I had to shove a pillow into her face. She took the hint and screamed into the pillow but it only muffled so much. Out the door at 9 am to head back to work, I'll be buying a few beers from her in a few hours.

Pretty decent day for one not planned.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1836449]This post made me smile. Way to Go! I nominate this report as "the best quickie limo ride to Pattaya" in 2016. 555. Woof! You Dog![/QUOTE]Thanks Natty, glad you liked it. Just now I am actually thinking why did I not call her to accompany me on my journey back from Pattaya to you-Tapao! Now that would have been some finish to a wonderful trip. 5555.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1836478]Nice set of reviews, Blanquiceleste. Good work with May. 12 gogo clubs in a night. You're my type of guy!

I'm pretty sure I've said this before but since I read 2 reviews this week about few girls at Kinnaree early in the day, I wanted to re-emphasize that most girls do not start arriving until 3 pm. It's odd since the same girls all leave at 7 pm. Oh well at least you got to eat good BBQ ribs.

OK I need to give Baccara another chance next month. Too many good reports here makes me think I just hit it at a bad time.

Cane, there were 100 girls at Sapphire on my 10+ visits in Nov. Of course as the night goes on and girls are BF'd, this number will drop. Weekends had fewer girls since more were BF'd. There is a board near the washroom that tells you who is there. I always saw 5 groups of 20 when I arrived.[/QUOTE]Thanks BB. What happened with May was not my plan, it just happened. I do hope lightning strikes the same place more than once. 5555.

12 GoGo clubs in a night, upon reflection, seems excessive to me, but as I said I have not been inside a GoGo in Pattaya for a long time. The reports written by experienced members was a major factor in planning this GoGo hop. And I was not disappointed one bit and I have no regret of spending a lot more than on an average night out.

Baccara simply needs to change the attitude they have towards customers. I have no complaints with the girls, they are very pretty and always friendly. Somehow the service crew fucks it up every time. And of course, their recent strategy to cater to East Asian customers is taking its toll on other clientele.

Darn! I missed those beauties at Sapphire. Now I can't wait to go back! ***looks at calendar feverishly!***

A big thank you to you for taking so much effort to write such detailed and long FRs.

The forum shall remain grateful to you. It will be of tremendous help to all.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1836437]Day 3 - 05 Feb.

I woke again by 2 pm with a slightly heavy head. So I headed over to Sailor for a greasy breakfast and plenty of cold water.

I had read some reviews about a new BJ bar called LE Rouge located way out in Darkside. Soi Khao Noi to be precise. Motorbike taxi to the place cost me 100 thb. The place has good ambience, dimly lit in red lights, music from the 70's and 80's, reasonably comfortable seating in red decor and cheap drinks. They even have a pool table for guests to play for free. It's a bad table but it's still there and it's free. But the one thing you go there for, the girls, are woefully few in numbers and utterly disappointing in quality. But then I rationalized by saying to myself that a BJ is not about looks but about skills. And I had spent time energy and money in getting here. So I picked out a lady and got her a drink. LDs are 110 thb. 300 BF and 500 for the BJ. Invariably the crew will try and upsell LDs and it's hard to refuse when the girl has your nuts between her teeth. The BJ itself was good but I won't be back here again..[/QUOTE]

I've been visiting Baccara a few times this week and I must say it's the best line up of pretty go go girls. Especially up on the second floor. Yes, the floor is dominated by the South East Asians and this is something.

That the club is especially catering to. I saw that the service staff was walking around asking the Asian's if they wanted any girl. They didn't ask any non-Asian people this question. The reason is that the Asian's don't like to share women. You'll notice that they will only go to certain clubs usually as a group. It seems that Baccarat is being shrewd about this. The girls also appear to be into Asian guys as well. I called a few girls over and they asked for a shot. She had no interest in looking at me or talking to me at all. Instead, she just sat there looking bored. I tried to make conversation but she just looked depressed. Anyway, after a few minutes I order another drink and I order her one. Then she tells me 'no' I'm going to have something to eat and then dance later. So, I cancel her lady drink and I end up sitting alone for the rest of the evening. Okay, that was kinda really.

Depressing and I felt rude. She didn't make any attempt to make eye contact with me or smile in any way for.

The rest of the night. I saw her with a Korean later that night and she had a big drink and she was all giggles.

And smiles. Of course, he didn't bar fine her and I think she kinda guessed that wouldn't happen.

The most dumb thing I saw was when they left the bar. They all stood up and started throwing a few thousand bat in 20's all over the dance floor. They kept on doing this for about 2 minutes. Other than that, huge buckets of ping pong balls were thrown over the dance floor. As far as I could see, most of the guys left without.

Barfining any of the girls. Guess what? I'd say the girls are more than happy for that to happen. So, yeah good things have been said about Bacarat but if you aren't South East Asian be warned that it might be tricky.

I've been to a tonne of other go go bars in the area but nothing really compares to what I saw in Bangkok. I'd.

Say that you should check out Soi 6. It's not as classy as 'walking street' but trust me you won't find as many.

Tourists and South East Asians. Let's just hope they don't try to take over the whole scene. If it were in the.

Asian hands they wouldn't allow us into the clubs or to use the services of the girls. They may allow us to buy drinks for them, that would be about it. I speak from experience since I've lived in Asia for more that 5 years.

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I've been stopping in this gogo off and on this trip, looking for a girl I've booked the last two trips. Mamasan remembered me but couldn't remember the girl I used to see. Finally I remembered I had posted a photo of her way way back so I searched the forum, found the photo and showed mamasan. Unfortunately the girl had quit many months ago.

So I'm sitting there next to mamasan and she's asking if I'd like another lady. Only one caught my eye, she had an innocent vibe and was super hot. Pointed her out and mamasan said she doesn't go w customers. So regnad I and his date started talking about what to do next when mamasan comes back and says the girl will go with me. Took her to Sapphire, over to McDonalds and then back to the room. The rest of the night remains a blur, felt like a teenager again. The price was high, she obviously was new to the gogo scene. Worth every penny.

[QUOTE=Eurojay;1836433]Any specifics on which bars on Soi 7?

I just throw in the towel. More like pick one with the best attitude despite not being physically attracted. If they put in enough effort and enjoy the drink, give good company and can get me semi excited, that's enough for me to hand them my other joiner towel in room. As Forrest Gump said, box of chocolates.

I visit once a year, looking to increase it to twice, so I try to not sleep alone any of the nights.[/QUOTE]Sorry. I can never remember the names of the bars. Never pay too much attention to it. Only interested to see where the good looking girl is. Like I said, the overall quality was down so it was a bit of a work to find a young, slim, pretty girl on soi 7. I did succeed in finding them and every one of them had good attitude. Soi 7 is not walking street afterall. The best time to visit is around dusk or a little bit before that. Make 2 or 3 trips back and forth if you have to. I stop and talked to a few but don't enter the bar or buy a drink until I find a girl to my liking. Out of all the girls there, you are bund to find one.

[QUOTE=Socker;1836434]Had to say thanks for all this info on your time in Patts. I was in Kinnaree a few months ago and agree w / your assessment. The ladies are f-ing arrogant there, I had a good time but don't like to be played. My gogos last trip were Electric Blue and Pussycat Dolls, a few others I would pop into, Pussycat Dolls had a raunchy Philippines feel to it, it was worth spending time in. I will check out some of the places you mentioned when I get there in a couple of months. Reports like yours are very helpful, thanks again.[/QUOTE]That's the idea. I have used info from this forum countless times to my advantage. Thanks to all the wonderful posters with the detailed reports, I have walked into new places in a new country like I own them. I personally do not have time to post very detailed reports but I try to post helpful info. After doing this for so many years, it takes minutes to measure a place or girls working there. Hope you enjoy these places.

[QUOTE=Sexmachine1;1836985]Sorry. I can never remember the names of the bars. Never pay too much attention to it. Only interested to see where the good looking girl is. Like I said, the overall quality was down so it was a bit of a work to find a young, slim, pretty girl on soi 7. Soi 7 is not walking street afterall. The best time to visit is around dusk or a little bit before that. Make 2 or 3 trips back and forth if you have to. I stop and talked to a few but don't enter the bar or buy a drink until I find a girl to my liking. Out of all the girls there, you are bund to find one.[/QUOTE]Thanks Sexmachine1.

I just took the Google map street view out of curiosity, had some memories which I felt the forum would enjoy.

During my last trip, on my first day I landed to BKK, taxi'd to Pattaya and checked in, instead of resting could not resist a Soi 6 visit around Noon. After surveying the bars that were barely open, I finally went upstairs with a girl, great firm body, great rack to accompany. Anyway, here is the fun part, I had too much energy in Pattaya despite the travels and ST, I decided to walk around and reach at Soi 7 early afternoon. I ran into a group of mongers just enjoying an afternoon beer, he asked for a condom, stretched it over his own head down to his nostrils, found gaps in his latex cap and sealed them with his hands and exhaled profusely, as hard as he could. The result, an amazing sight, the condom inflated above his head just as a Martian cap and the sheer laughter and cheers of all of us around him, he plucked the condom out and it just died as a balloon without having its knot / rubber sealed.

Things you see in Pattaya!

I really wanted to explore Soi 7, but there was a beer bar right at the end of the street and did not want to be seen walking through there, there were a couple girls who I had barfined earlier and was ignoring them. My efforts to inform them of my butterfly nature or even being drunk repeatedly did not stop them from texting me.

I always thought Soi 7 as the bars leading up to the bar beer from there on.

Happy Mongering!

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1836436]Day 2 - 04 Feb.

I walked over to Sailor Bar and Restaurant after Ja'Ao left and had a hearty full English breakfast with a great pot of coffee to wake me up fully.

Next stop Soi 6. Reached by 2 pm. Most bars had a sprinkling of girls but nothing that caught my eye. After walking up and down once I decided to enter Ruby. Had a drink and chatted with the bartender who was pretty good looking herself. Somehow I did not get a good vibe from the girls in this bar. I remembered reading contrasting reports about this bar. Next, I sauntered over to Route 69. As I entered the bar I spotted a real cutie. Smiled at her and contact was established. Kookick is 23 yo and all of 4'10" weighing less than 100 lbs. Got her a drink and started chatting. In about 10 min I was offered a three some with Kookick and her friend Bai. I declined politely but got Bai a drink anyway. After the drink we went up for a nice slow well laid out session. A+ offered. A change of condom and offer accepted. Paid her 1100 thb and settled the bill and BF of 800 thb.

It was now around 4. 30 pm and I was in the mood for a nice massage. So I walked back to the hotel (a good 15 min walk) and ducked into the massage parlour at Eastiny Place. The masseuse Wan gave me a wonderful 90 min oil massage and got me relaxed..[/QUOTE]I wonder how long you been coming to Thailand? She told you she had never been in a gogo and you believe that? They all say that, these girls are the biggest liars in the world, in fact they couldn't lie straight in bed.

Hi friends,

I am going to Pattaya on March 12th for a week trip. This time I am planning to explore Soi 6. My plan is to explore solo club and Roxy bar. If anybody can share their experience in Soi 6 will be highly appreciated. I read that queen Victoria inn if famous for its burgers. Expecting tips from friends on Soi 6.

[QUOTE=How14;1837060]I wonder how long you been coming to Thailand? She told you she had never been in a gogo and you believe that? They all say that, these girls are the biggest liars in the world, in fact they couldn't lie straight in bed.[/QUOTE]I guess not long enough to know as much as you do about Thai women?

I tell it as it happened. I had fun and that is all that matters. I have benefited a great deal from this forum and the only way to give back to the community is to write detailed reports that will benefit others. Maybe the next bloke will simply laugh his ass off when his girl says she ain't been inside a GoGo ever!

Nice FRs Blanqui, you seem to have had an amazing time as always. Wish I could join you in LOS.

[QUOTE=Thampi62;1837164]Hi friends,

I am going to Pattaya on March 12th for a week trip. This time I am planning to explore Soi 6. My plan is to explore solo club and Roxy bar. If anybody can share their experience in Soi 6 will be highly appreciated. I read that queen Victoria inn if famous for its burgers. Expecting tips from friends on Soi 6.[/QUOTE]Don't put all your eggs in two baskets. The bars on Soi 6 change all the time. Walk the street and stop in the bars that you like. Many guys prefer other bars then the ones you mentioned.

[QUOTE=Thampi62;1837164]Hi friends,

I am going to Pattaya on March 12th for a week trip. This time I am planning to explore Soi 6. My plan is to explore solo club and Roxy bar. If anybody can share their experience in Soi 6 will be highly appreciated. I read that queen Victoria inn if famous for its burgers. Expecting tips from friends on Soi 6.[/QUOTE]Many of us, including myself, have written about Soi 6. Go back and read the forum from a year ago (mine from May) and you will find plenty of information.

But. Soi 6 might be totally different than what you expect it to be. There are dozens and dozens of ratty bars on both sides of the ratty street. The bars to the north are small with girls out front saying "welcome" as you walk by. Some are air conditioned inside, but most aren't. The bars have rooms upstairs with a shower, where the deed will be done. Some of the bars to the south are a bit larger, better for simply having a drink and watching the action. Skip the massage places. At least the one I tried right by the 2nd Road entrance on the south side only gave HJs, though the actual massage was nice. And beware of LBs on the south side. If the girl isn't speaking to you, or gives off a funny vibe, he may be a she. You can ask her, and you get out of the situation by smiling, saying they are pretty and then walkimg away. Never insult or appear grossed out. Really, some of them are super cute and I nearly got inside with one until the warning bells were going off because they only smiled, never spoke.

But the Soi 6 deal is you just walk down the street and look for a girl you like. Some will come out and grab your hand to take you into the bar. If you are not interested, don't go. Smile and say you are not ready yet. My advice is to walk all the way down, noting bars that might have someone you like, then come back to decide on a final selection. Feel free to stop and talk with someone, but don't go inside unless you are interested, or you will be generally obligated to get a drink. If you don't find someone you like, wait an hour or two and come back.

I have never ventured inside any of the bars on the south side. There are nice girls out front, but these seemed different than the north bars, and I stuck with what I was familiar with. I think on my next visit I will stop by a large, open bar to sit down and relax a bit without choosing anyone.

But Soi 6 can be a bit intimidating at first. It is uncomfortable to walk down the street, looking at the girls in a sexual manner. We were taught this was a sexist thing to do in the west, but here it is business and something you have to do. I found it a little uncomfortable to walk down, then turn around and end up not choosing anyone, and especially uncomfortable if I made a third pass! But, sometimes there is no one you are attracted to so you either make another trip to settle, or you go somewhere else for an hour or two.

The quality of the girls varies, but except for one or two times, I always managed to find a really cute girl. There are plenty of dogs there, but you should nearly always manage to find a cutie who can make you drool. Note that most of the girls will do LT (they will go out with you to dinner or your hotel), and it will be at least half the cost of a WS agogo girl.

Regarding how to negotiate, once you find a girl and go inside the bar, talk to her a bit to see how you get along. If things start off well, offer to buy her a drink. If you want to have sex with her, just ask her how much to go upstairs with her. She will tell you the BF and her fee. You can read reports here to see what the latest prices should be and, if she asks for too much, counter with what you know a fair price is. Then pay the money and follow her upstairs for a shower then the deed. After you do it once, it gets easier. Not complicated at all. The girls are all there wanting to have sex with you. Remember that if you start to get nervous.

I don't know about Solo or Roxy, but don't get hung up on a particular bar. All the girls are out in the open, so the bar names are irrelevant, unless perhaps you have read a recent report and a particular girl is mentioned as being there.

But Soi 6 is a favorite for many mongerers. Here, the girls are out in the open so you can take an easy stroll to check them out and choose, they have on-proximity rooms so the deed can be done quickly without the embarrassment of taking a girl half or a third your age back to your hotel during the daytime (and you can do that for just a few hundred TB more if you want), and they off great value for your money. While many are dogs and most are average, a few will be drool-dropping hot.

[QUOTE=FLHawk;1837355]Many of us, including myself, have written about Soi 6. Go back and read the forum from a year ago (mine from May) and you will find plenty of information.

But. Soi 6 might be totally different than what you expect it to be. There are dozens and dozens of ratty bars on both sides of the ratty street. The bars to the north are small with girls out front saying "welcome" as you walk by. Some are air conditioned inside, but most aren't. The bars have rooms upstairs with a shower, where the deed will be done. Some of the bars to the south are a bit larger, better for simply having a drink and watching the action. Skip the massage places. At least the one I tried right by the 2nd Road entrance on the south side only gave HJs, though the actual massage was nice. And beware of LBs on the south side. If the girl isn't speaking to you, or gives off a funny vibe, he may be a she. You can ask her, and you get out of the situation by smiling, saying they are pretty and then walkimg away. Never insult or appear grossed out. Really, some of them are super cute and I nearly got inside with one until the warning bells were going off because they only smiled, never spoke.

But the Soi 6 deal is you just walk down the street and look for a girl you like. Some will come out and grab your hand to take you into the bar. If you are not interested, don't go. Smile and say you are not ready yet. My advice is to walk all the way down, noting bars that might have someone you like, then come back to decide on a final selection. Feel free to stop and talk with someone, but don't go inside unless you are interested, or you will be generally obligated to get a drink. If you don't find someone you like, wait an hour or two and come back...[/QUOTE]Thanks friend for your awesome reply. I will go back in search of the reports posted year before. I have a doubt that what is the usual BF for ST in soi6 bars? Is it include the rent for the room upstairs?

[QUOTE=TellAll;1837290]Don't put all your eggs in two baskets. The bars on Soi 6 change all the time. Walk the street and stop in the bars that you like. Many guys prefer other bars then the ones you mentioned.[/QUOTE]I agree with you. Ignorance from my side friend.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1837205]I guess not long enough to know as much as you do about Thai women?

I tell it as it happened. I had fun and that is all that matters. I have benefited a great deal from this forum and the only way to give back to the community is to write detailed reports that will benefit others. Maybe the next bloke will simply laugh his ass off when his girl says she ain't been inside a GoGo ever![/QUOTE]What I know about Thai women I could write a fucking book, I speak fluent Thai, been here 12 years, if you knew what they say about us in there own language you would be shocked, we are ATM machines simple as that, put it this way if there was a list of 10 things, faring would be at the bottom, even buffalo is above us, so, don't try to tell me anything about life here and what goes on, they are the biggest liars in the world and Thais have a long game, they will sit and wait 10 years while they wear you down and get your cash.

Wake up and smell the coffee dude.

[QUOTE=Thampi62;1837164]Hi friends,

I am going to Pattaya on March 12th for a week trip. This time I am planning to explore Soi 6. My plan is to explore solo club and Roxy bar. If anybody can share their experience in Soi 6 will be highly appreciated. I read that queen Victoria inn if famous for its burgers. Expecting tips from friends on Soi 6.[/QUOTE]Check again. There is no bar by the name Solo Club. There is a SOHO bar. And for your kind information SOHO bar and FOXY are both reportedly Ladyboy bars.

I agree with FL Hawk. Do not go with any fixed ideas. Be open and stroll up and down the street a couple of times to get a sense of which bars have the quantity and quality you are looking for. Eventually, you will find what you are looking for or at least come close to your own definition of perfect. Most bars on the street open from 1 pm or thereabout so go by 3 pm for decent selection. Alternately go later by 5 pm.

I have reported about Soi 6 bars I have visited in my previous reports. Read thru them to get an idea. There are several other brilliant posts by some esteemed members. You will find it all here. Even run a Google search for "Updated Soi 6 Bars Maps" and browse thru the images tab. You will see some pretty interesting results. From your post history I can't make much of your preferences or your style. All I can say is read back at least 6 months of reports here and you will not feel like a stranger when you are on ground!

[QUOTE=IllusionHeart;1837256]Nice FRs Blanqui, you seem to have had an amazing time as always. Wish I could join you in LOS.[/QUOTE]Illusion my friend. We should plan a LOS trip together soon. 5555.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1837537]Check again. There is no bar by the name Solo Club. There is a SOHO bar. And for your kind information SOHO bar and FOXY are both reportedly Ladyboy bars.![/QUOTE]Yes there is Solo Club, next to Spider. Solo has girls and ladyboys.

Three out of four days Sapphire lineup has been pretty weak. Many average girls at best. Not ugly, just not many that stand out in the crowd.

[QUOTE=How14;1837060]I wonder how long you been coming to Thailand? She told you she had never been in a gogo and you believe that? They all say that, these girls are the biggest liars in the world, in fact they couldn't lie straight in bed.[/QUOTE]Don't take it personally, How14, but it seems there is a carbon copy of you on every country forum, someone who has lived there for at least 10 years, is fluent in the local language, and insists all women in the country are liars who are only interested in the money.

Maybe the girl has Spent 5 years working in gogos, maybe she's never been. Maybe she's been and enjoyed the show, but didn't want to present the wrong image, by dragging Blanqui inside. Maybe it's a turn-on for her.

There are a lot of maybe's, but none of them really matter. What matters is that Blanqui had a good night, enjoyed himself and reported on his trip. Isn't that the purpose of the forum?

Maybe ISG needs to put up an "I hate <Local Country women" group.

[QUOTE=How14;1837445]What I know about Thai women I could write a fucking book, I speak fluent Thai, been here 12 years, if you knew what they say about us in there own language you would be shocked, we are ATM machines simple as that, put it this way if there was a list of 10 things, faring would be at the bottom, even buffalo is above us, so, don't try to tell me anything about life here and what goes on, they are the biggest liars in the world and Thais have a long game, they will sit and wait 10 years while they wear you down and get your cash.

Wake up and smell the coffee dude.[/QUOTE]I'm just amazed that a guy with your insight and knowledge of Thai women would put up with their shit for 12 years and even learn the language. Why not go back to whatever country you are from and enjoy the women there. I'm sure they would never lie to you or try to get money out of you. They would never do that.

[QUOTE=Sexmachine1;1835984]From Macau to Angeles city to Pattaya. ...... Be Safe and Good luck hunting guys!
SexMachine1.[/QUOTE]Good and concise report. I agree with most of the things you mentioned. Glad you had fun!

[QUOTE=How14;1837445]What I know about Thai women I could write a fucking book, I speak fluent Thai, been here 12 years, if you knew what they say about us in there own language you would be shocked, we are ATM machines simple as that, put it this way if there was a list of 10 things, faring would be at the bottom, even buffalo is above us, so, don't try to tell me anything about life here and what goes on, they are the biggest liars in the world and Thais have a long game, they will sit and wait 10 years while they wear you down and get your cash.
[/QUOTE]The sub-title of this forum is "Money is the world's greatest aphrodisiac". Hardly anyone would assume otherwise on a P4P forum.

But that is quite apart from the fun that can be had in exchange for some of your money.

And yes, I hope I can say with my last breath "I spent all my money on wild women" because otherwise it would go to the Government and that will give me far less fun.

[QUOTE=TomPpa;1837551]Yes there is Solo Club, next to Spider. Solo has girls and ladyboys.[/QUOTE]Yes, I confirm about Solo Club. Mix bar with GG and LB.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1837678]I hope I can say with my last breath "I spent all my money on wild women" because otherwise it would go to the Government and that will give me far less fun.[/QUOTE]Right on! Just leave a little aside for the condo fees, medical, and other basic necessities.

"I spent half my money on gambling, alcohol and wild women. The other half I wasted. " - W. See. Fields.

"I spent 90% of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted" - George Best.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1837537] There is no bar by the name Solo Club. There is a SOHO bar. And for your kind information SOHO bar and FOXY are both reportedly Ladyboy bars.[/QUOTE]Soho bar is not a LB bar. If it is my gay-dar is off since I see girls in this photo.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1836438]Day 4 - 06 Feb.
.....[/QUOTE]Good reports. You must be a young buck. Or at least a younger buck (meaning younger than me). LOL. Man I wish I had the energy to bang 2 or 3 a day. I guess I could if I went out for some afternoon delight, then eat and grab a nap to recharge. I stay for long trips so have to pace myself. :)

Good read! Glad you had a great time!

I am a very occasional Soi 6 patron, but from my information, Solo Club is a mixed bar with mostly girls and a few ladyboys. See the latest attached Soi 6 Bar map. Solo Club is shaded in red indicating the mix.

Soho Bar on the other side of the street is also considered a mixed bar with at least one or two ladyboys working there. A famous Soi 6 punter from another forum has written extensively about his ongoing relationship with a mute ladyboy who worked in Soho Bar. I saw her smoking a hooka pipe out in front of her bar one time while I was cruising the Soi. She looked up and gave me a smile, but I did not stop to say hello. 555. That is not my cup of tea.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1837729]

I am a very occasional Soi 6 patron, but from my information, Solo Club is a mixed bar with mostly girls and a few ladyboys. See the latest attached Soi 6 Bar map. Solo Club is shaded in red indicating the mix....

[/QUOTE]This Photo has interesting information. But it's to small to read. So why you not put the Link in the Forum?

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1837696]Right on! Just leave a little aside for the condo fees, medical, and other basic necessities.

"I spent half my money on gambling, alcohol and wild women. The other half I wasted. " - W. See. Fields.

"I spent 90% of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted" - George Best.[/QUOTE]I'm a 50 percenter. 50% on whiskey, women and fun. The other half on things not important enough to remember.

[QUOTE=TellAll;1837651]I'm just amazed that a guy with your insight and knowledge of Thai women would put up with their shit for 12 years and even learn the language. Why not go back to whatever country you are from and enjoy the women there. I'm sure they would never lie to you or try to get money out of you. They would never do that.[/QUOTE]Firstly I only ever got involved with one Thai, lesson was learned then, secondly I never went to any trouble to learn Thai, I'm good in languages so it came naturally. So why you amazed? No doubt you have your little subservient girlfriend.

[QUOTE=Beno69;1837799]This Photo has interesting information. But it's to small to read. So why you not put the Link in the Forum?[/QUOTE]Probably because it's from a competing forum. It's against the rules to post links to them here. Google is your friend: Do a Google image search for: "Pattaya Soi 6 bar map".

[QUOTE=Beno69;1837799]This Photo has interesting information. But it's to small to read. So why you not put the Link in the Forum?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Another way to go about it is to stop into the bars with the hot women. If your paying too much attention reading a map or looking for club names, fortunes of chance walk right by you.

[QUOTE=How14;1837905]Firstly I only ever got involved with one Thai, lesson was learned then, secondly I never went to any trouble to learn Thai, I'm good in languages so it came naturally. So why you amazed? No doubt you have your little subservient girlfriend.[/QUOTE]I think you were bitter when you got here and are still bitter. Instead of thinking and having fun, you carry that negative attitude around like an anchor around your neck.

My point is where ever you are, if you are a chump, people will take advantage of that. If they get no more then you are willing to give, who cares what their motivation is as long as you get what you want.

And yes I have some subservient GF's but they still want money. I guess I'm not sexzy man anymore LOL.

I noticed people were talking about picking up girls at iBar for LT at very reasonable prices, like 1500 to 2000 baht vs 4000+ at a gogo bar.

Are the girls just much less attractive at iBar, or is it because it's more of a younger farang game at iBar? I'm in my late 20's for what it's worth, pretty average looking and looking for hot girls not average looking 30 year olds.

[QUOTE=How14;1837905]Firstly I only ever got involved with one Thai, lesson was learned then, secondly I never went to any trouble to learn Thai, I'm good in languages so it came naturally. So why you amazed? No doubt you have your little subservient girlfriend.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=How14;1837445]What I know about Thai women I could write a fucking book, I speak fluent Thai, been here 12 years, if you knew what they say about us in there own language you would be shocked, we are ATM machines simple as that, put it this way if there was a list of 10 things, faring would be at the bottom, even buffalo is above us, so, don't try to tell me anything about life here and what goes on, they are the biggest liars in the world and Thais have a long game, they will sit and wait 10 years while they wear you down and get your cash.

Wake up and smell the coffee dude.[/QUOTE]Now that's a very useful talent. Only needing to get involved with one woman and to be able to perfectly understand the drives, personalities and motivations of every single woman in the country. I have trouble remembering the names of ex girlfriends, I can't imagine trying to remember everything about 33 million women. I guess it's easy when they are all exactly the same.

Yes, I'm a sarcastic prick. I simply refuse to believe, just because you had a bad experience with one Thai woman, that all Thai women are going to be the same. I'm certain there are many Thai women who will lie, cheat, steal or whatever to get your money, I'm sure there are many who despise farangs and I'm sure there are many who can't be trusted. I'm also confident, until proven otherwise, there are many who are decent, honest people who enjoy meeting people from different cultures. There are probably many who would happily cook you dinner and spend an evening learning about your home. There are probably some who want to marry a farang, to get a better life.

Just like in every other country, there are all types of women.

[QUOTE=How14;1837445]What I know about Thai women I could write a fucking book, I speak fluent Thai, been here 12 years, if you knew what they say about us in there own language you would be shocked, we are ATM machines simple as that, put it this way if there was a list of 10 things, faring would be at the bottom, even buffalo is above us, so, don't try to tell me anything about life here and what goes on, they are the biggest liars in the world and Thais have a long game, they will sit and wait 10 years while they wear you down and get your cash.

Wake up and smell the coffee dude.[/QUOTE]You just met the wrong one. Would you ever consider a relation ship with a bar girl or from a very poor family in your own country? I have no idea about ages, but there are so many 30 ish single women with proper jobs, own apartment and car who like to meet you. You only have to angle in the right pond. OK you might have to invest a little more time, but instead of meeting small Isan girls in Pattaya, go to Ban Saen Anguila or even Bangkok, e. G. Samakhon Village or Thonlor, dress to impress and behave. Won't cost you a whole night to get a phone number and another date. But do not search for that in Pattaya or Nana.

[QUOTE=NZSmith;1838170]I noticed people were talking about picking up girls at iBar for LT at very reasonable prices, like 1500 to 2000 baht vs 4000+ at a gogo bar.

Are the girls just much less attractive at iBar, or is it because it's more of a younger farang game at iBar? I'm in my late 20's for what it's worth, pretty average looking and looking for hot girls not average looking 30 year olds.[/QUOTE]In many cases it will be the same damn girls, but some mongers don't wish to stay up as late as they would have to in order to get a girl from the disco. Also, some mongers may not like discos and choose not to go that route. Then there are other mongers who want to see a girl in a bikini before they choose them.

Trip Cliff Notes Feb. 5-11,2016.

Thanks to Banana and others for the encouragement and recos. Sapphire had a diverse selection and it wasn't full of Asian men either. Main gogos on the WS were full of Asian men. I fully understand why Thai girls prefer them. BF'd a Sapphire girl after 3 drinks and interview. I was concerned about my bill. It said coyote drink for the girl. Its my understanding that you can't barfine a coyote girl, so I asked her a lot of questions. Back in the room she was a starfish refusing everything but mish. It was my error to penetrate her. Had I listened to my gut and gone back to the bar I probably could have taken another girl, but once I was in the deal was done. She said, "no no, too big" a lot and that killed everything.

Soapy Massage at Honey something was alright except the women were old, unattractive and mostly mothers. Both girls complained about my size, acted like they have never seen a monster cock before. Moaned in pain, grimace on face. Will not return after 2 tries.

Soi 6 dirty street was fun for me. I found a little A+ girl at Hero. She had a good attitude too with lighter skin albeit some acne on her face. She had this cute squeel she did as I fucked her. She complained about my size but took it deep like a star. Went back the next day and took her again and friend. The friend was simulating doggie style with me at the bar and the little one pushed her aside to get some attention. It was good fun, but she didn't have to do that, but seemed she wanted to play and not observe. The three way was average, had to change condoms three times but lots of laughing. The little girl was in control and was better at sex and was giving the younger girl tips. All in all a Pretty good value at 1000 baht each and I made them wear the uniforms during the act, but Soi 6 as a whole was kind of gross too.

Didn't enter any lady bars other than 1 on soi 6. Old, dark Northern Thai women working there. Many old fat farts drinking. Lots of repulsive women walking around hand in hand with men that appear could do better. Try not to judge, looked at myself in the mirror, do my own thing. Went to Central Mall everyday, did lots of shopping. Can't get big sizes where I live, in Vietnam. So I loaded up on Shoes, Sneakers, Trainers, underwear and stuff. Real brands too, no fake shit.

No alcohol the whole trip. This made a big difference in my behavior, attitude towards the girls, but I have to take care of my health these days.

Bus ride back was only 1 HR 45 min. Fully occupied.

Reflecting back I couldn't help but to compare Thai girls with local girls here in Vietnam. Its better for me in Vietnam. I like Vietnamese girls better. There are lots of options for me here, paid and free, however Pattaya felt like luxury living compared to the everyday hassles of Vietnam. I might go back to Pattaya but not for the women but its a cheap option with $95 flights to BKK and 122 baht bus to the beach. Next time I may just bring my own girl and be a normal smuck in Jomtien but if I was back in America in my little cubicle living a boring life with no action then Pattaya would be paradise, and I can see the attraction, and what's most important is [U]to do whatever the fuck you want to do! [/U].

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1838269]In many cases it will be the same damn girls, but some mongers don't wish to stay up as late as they would have to in order to get a girl from the disco. Also, some mongers may not like discos and choose not to go that route. Then there are other mongers who want to see a girl in a bikini before they choose them.[/QUOTE]How many girls work in the gogo's in Pattaya? I've walked into some gogo's and they've always always had at least 30 working. Some like Sapphire, Baccara, Sensations, Happy and a few others have well over 80 girls at times. Easily 5000 girls are working in gogo's on any given night, of those only a small percentage are barfined long time. You can't tell me 2000 gogo girls are decending upon Ibar at 3 am. The numbers just don't add up. Yes, there are easily 200 girls crammed into Ibar and Insomnia (if not double that number), but most guys from out of town aren't going to wait until 4 am to pull something out of a club even if it saves them a couple thousand baht.

Personally I like to key into the equation the cost, the time spent with the girl in total and the total time spent fucking. X + X + X / see. If I spend 4000 baht and get ten hours of time, that's much better than spending 2000 baht and getting 2 hours. I'm happy spending 4 k for a true LT experience, I'm amazed when it happens for 1500.

P.S. A tip for those wanting to check out LK Metro. The small gogo clubs open around 7 pm vs 9 pm for Walking Street. Yes, the talent isn't as good but you can do a quick visit and found an easy and cheap way to get to WS. Simply grab a baht bus heading south on Soi Buakhao from the one end of LK Metro (by sugar sugar), that bus will go all the way to South Pattaya road, turn right and take you right to Second road by Walking Street.

Having an argument with my buddy about lady drinks.

His opinion is this: the girl has to sell 45 ladydrinks in ten days, after 45 (on 46,47 etc) she makes 50 baht per drink. He says the girls make no money at all on drinks 1 thru 45.

My thinking is the girls make money off of each drink, if they didn't they wouldn't be saving those drink tickets.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1838373]My thinking is the girls make money off of each drink, if they didn't they wouldn't be saving those drink tickets.[/QUOTE]I'm not a gogo fan so I have limit experience about it, but the few ladies I spoke about always told me that they make money for each drink.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1838373]Having an argument with my buddy about lady drinks.

His opinion is this: the girl has to sell 45 ladydrinks in ten days, after 45 (on 46,47 etc) she makes 50 baht per drink. He says the girls make no money at all on drinks 1 thru 45.

My thinking is the girls make money off of each drink, if they didn't they wouldn't be saving those drink tickets.[/QUOTE]

It will depend on the bar. Some pay for every drink, some impose minimum quota before they pay her or they fine the girl if she does not make her quotum. In either case, they have to keep the drink slips to show they reached the required number or to get payment.

As far as us mongers are concerned, the system is the same: you are expected to buy her a drink.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1838369] A tip for those wanting to check out LK Metro. The small gogo clubs open around 7 pm vs 9 pm for Walking Street. Yes, the talent isn't as good but you can do a quick visit and found an easy and cheap way to get to WS. Simply grab a baht bus heading south on Soi Buakhao from the one end of LK Metro (by sugar sugar), that bus will go all the way to South Pattaya road, turn right and take you right to Second road by Walking Street.[/QUOTE]Here's a baht bus map showing the route BM has described.

[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zVnp-O9vYosM.k-v4A-udg1eU&hl=en_US[/URL]

[QUOTE=Breadman;1838373]His opinion is this: the girl has to sell 45 ladydrinks in ten days, after 45 (on 46,47 etc) she makes 50 baht per drink. He says the girls make no money at all on drinks 1 thru 45.
[/QUOTE]

Pretty sure I was told 50 baht for each drink from first drink at Sapphire. Then again, who knows what to believe from these girls. Sadly many girls won't even be able to sell 45 drinks in 10 days which is why so many hot girls try to help their ugly friends.

[QUOTE=AmericanThief;1838283]Soapy Massage at Honey something was alright except the women were old, unattractive and mostly mothers. Both girls complained about my size, acted like they have never seen a monster cock before. Moaned in pain, grimace on face. Will not return after 2 tries.[/QUOTE]I'm assuming you visited Honey 2 and not Honey 1. Were you looking at the priciest ones with the Black numbers? There's only around 10 of them but most as young and decent looking. Agree most girls in soapies are not great but that's consistent with the rest of Thailand.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1838373]Having an argument with my buddy about lady drinks.

His opinion is this: the girl has to sell 45 ladydrinks in ten days, after 45 (on 46,47 etc) she makes 50 baht per drink. He says the girls make no money at all on drinks 1 thru 45.

My thinking is the girls make money off of each drink, if they didn't they wouldn't be saving those drink tickets.[/QUOTE]It should not be an argument, guessing game, or opinion at all. Just simply ask a girl who works in whatever place you are in and she will tell you how it works for that particular venue.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1838369]You can't tell me 2000 gogo girls are decending upon Ibar at 3 am. The numbers just don't add up. Yes, there are easily 200 girls crammed into Ibar and Insomnia (if not double that number), but most guys from out of town aren't going to wait until 4 am to pull something out of a club even if it saves them a couple thousand baht.

If I spend 4000 baht and get ten hours of time, that's much better than spending 2000 baht and getting 2 hours. I'm happy spending 4 k for a true LT experience, I'm amazed when it happens for 1500.[/QUOTE]Not every gogo girl goes to a disco after work, but a good number of them do. Also Insomnia / iBar is not the only disco in town. There is 808, Flexx, Marine 1, Marine 2, Mixx, Brooklyn, Tipsy, and plenty of others that stay open past 3:30 am. In addition, when you get a girl from a disco she is not staying with you for only 2 hours. Usually she stays until afternoon and in many cases you have to kick her out or tell her when you are ready for her to leave.

Just like when I was in Angeles City a couple of weeks ago. I met a girl in High Society disco who worked in a gogo. The first night we left the club at 4 am and she stayed until 2 pm when I kicked her out because I was going to meet up with some buddies. I gave her 1500 pesos. She went to work at 6 pm that night and left early at 9 pm and stayed until 5 am when I was leaving AC and I gave her 1000 pesos. And this girl will not stop messaging me and sending me pictures.

[QUOTE=NZSmith;1838170]I noticed people were talking about picking up girls at iBar for LT at very reasonable prices, like 1500 to 2000 baht vs 4000+ at a gogo bar.

Are the girls just much less attractive at iBar, or is it because it's more of a younger farang game at iBar? I'm in my late 20's for what it's worth, pretty average looking and looking for hot girls not average looking 30 year olds.[/QUOTE]Yes you will get girls going with you from I bar for 1500/2000 long time, but usually that's after you've spent a fortune buying them drinks.

[QUOTE=Titanio;1838181]You just met the wrong one. Would you ever consider a relation ship with a bar girl or from a very poor family in your own country? I have no idea about ages, but there are so many 30 ish single women with proper jobs, own apartment and car who like to meet you. You only have to angle in the right pond. OK you might have to invest a little more time, but instead of meeting small Isan girls in Pattaya, go to Ban Saen Anguila or even Bangkok, e. G. Samakhon Village or Thonlor, dress to impress and behave. Won't cost you a whole night to get a phone number and another date. But do not search for that in Pattaya or Nana.[/QUOTE]I never said I was looking for a relationship, either here or my own country, I'm a self confessed butterfly, that's the way I like it, can't even stand sharing a bed, short time is the way forward. And we don't really have bar girls in European countries similar to what's over here, so I don't get your point.

And if I was searching relations here, I wouldn't entertain a girl from Pattaya, especially Pattaya. What you guys here want to remember, your girlfriend, or your wife more than likely has a husband, or certainly a boyfriend in the shadows, they can sit back and milk you for 10 years, nothing to a Thai girl with an agenda. Especially if you have something to get all Thai girls go to the karaoke to get fucked off the Thai pretty boys, fucking wake up, tit, it will always be like this.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1838373]Having an argument with my buddy about lady drinks.

His opinion is this: the girl has to sell 45 ladydrinks in ten days, after 45 (on 46,47 etc) she makes 50 baht per drink. He says the girls make no money at all on drinks 1 thru 45.

My thinking is the girls make money off of each drink, if they didn't they wouldn't be saving those drink tickets.[/QUOTE]You are correct, my mate owns a gogo in walking street, and his girls earn 50 bht per lady drink, they have loads of other little equations as well, baronies, etc, but they have to have a certain amount of baronies per month, or they have to pay a fine.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1838440]Here's a baht bus map showing the route BM has described.

[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zVnp-O9vYosM.k-v4A-udg1eU&hl=en_US[/URL]
[/QUOTE]Thanks for the great info. I'm usually on a scooter but this map.

Makes it easy to explore the city on the bath bus.

Just wondering if anyone could recommend their favorite spot to get a decent haircut.

This is my second go around in Pattaya. I visited last February as well. I arrived Friday night and headed over to walking street. First stop was Windmill. While the girls overall aren't the best looking, I must say this was the most fun atmosphere I've experienced in a gogo. The place was packed. But everyone, guys and girls alike had big smiles and was having a really good time. I didn't get much attention, not upset by that though as pretty much every girl was either on stage or occupied with another guy. A really fun vibe to the place though, and I'm sure I'll be back another night. Walked up and down the street then settled on my old personal favorite from last year, Sensations. Lots of girls, lots of big tits. A waitress I barfined last year still worked there, she remembered me as soon as she saw me. I was tired after the traveling during the day and didn't want a super late first night, so I brought her back to my hotel. What was great though, was that I didn't have to buy her any drinks. There were two older Korean gentlemen sitting next to me. Although it seemed pretty clear, to me at least, the girl was with me, the two guys kept trying to take her away. They kept taking advantage of the fact she still had to do her waitress duties by calling her over to get them drinks. So they'd buy drinks and kept feeding her shots. She'd sit with them for a couple of minutes, let them put their arms around her and talk. She'd excuse herself and come back to me. After a bit, she told me she was getting a little drunk and asked if we could leave. So these two dudes loosened her up for me and saved me the cash while I still got the bang. Douche moves on their parts in my opinion as they were clearly trying to get her away from me.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1838440]Here's a baht bus map showing the route BM has described.

[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zVnp-O9vYosM.k-v4A-udg1eU&hl=en_US[/URL]

[/QUOTE]Very useful and relevant information BB. This is great stuff. Although, when I look at this map, one question springs to mind. What happened to routes 2, 3 and 4.

5555.

[QUOTE=Socker;1838534]Thanks for the great info. I'm usually on a scooter but this map.

Makes it easy to explore the city on the bath bus.[/QUOTE]Yes this is great info. Thanks for posting. Does the Jomtien baht bus charge 10 baht to go from Pattaya to Jomtien?

[QUOTE=Allover;1838680]Yes this is great info. Thanks for posting. Does the Jomtien baht bus charge 10 baht to go from Pattaya to Jomtien?[/QUOTE]Yes, it appears that distance is not a factor in the pricing.

[QUOTE=JavaMan;1837924]

...Do a Google image search for: "Pattaya Soi 6 bar map".

[/QUOTE]I live in Pattaya and not really need the MAP. But anyway I did Google and did find the MAP. But get blocked from Avast. The Page contains Maleware!!

[QUOTE=Beno69;1838754]I live in Pattaya and not really need the MAP. But anyway I did Google and did find the MAP. But get blocked from Avast. The Page contains Maleware!![/QUOTE]Of course, all bar-maps are MALE-ware!

[QUOTE=How14;1837445]What I know about Thai women I could write a fucking book, I speak fluent Thai, been here 12 years, if you knew what they say about us in there own language you would be shocked, we are ATM machines simple as that, put it this way if there was a list of 10 things, faring would be at the bottom, even buffalo is above us, so, don't try to tell me anything about life here and what goes on, they are the biggest liars in the world and Thais have a long game, they will sit and wait 10 years while they wear you down and get your cash.

Wake up and smell the coffee dude.[/QUOTE]I live in Pattaya and speak fluent Thai also. Yes you get the occasional comment but maybe more is directed at you? Do you sit all day drinking LEO in a wife beater never smiling or using your fluent Thai to be polite to people? Couple of questions for you. Q 1. Why are you on a sex forum if you're not sleeping with Thai women. Q 2. If you hate or distrust half the population (or more) that much why don't you fuck off somewhere where you actually like and respect the people?

[QUOTE=ManOfMystery;1838612] First stop was Windmill. While the girls overall aren't the best looking, I must say this was the most fun atmosphere I've experienced in a gogo. The place was packed. But everyone, guys and girls alike had big smiles and was having a really good time. I didn't get much attention, not upset by that though as pretty much every girl was either on stage or occupied with another guy. A really fun vibe to the place though, and I'm sure I'll be back another night. [/QUOTE]Patience is definitely required waiting for the girl you want at Windmill. Since it's so cheap to keep the same girl for hours returning another night may be the best option.

Looking forward to the rest of your Pattaya reviews.

Not all girls are available to barfine as a warning. If you spot a girl and want to buy her a drink to losen her up for a barfine, make sure you ask if she barfines. If your ok with buying a drink just to talk to a cute girl and aren't bothered with spending a few extra bucks, do so and enjoy her company. That being said, I was at Pandora agogo in LK Metro, bought a girl a ladydrink and when I asked about barfining she basically cut me off any possible takeout. She then went onstage and then came back to sit down with her friend, mamasan was soon in front asking if I wanted to buy them both drinks when I informed her "this girl won't barfine, why would I buy ladydrinks" and walked out. They don't want to barfine for whatever reason but are still decent company, I'll buy them a drink but if they flat out refuse to go with you outside the club but will go with others, then I tell them to shove off.

[QUOTE=Allover;1838680]Yes this is great info. Thanks for posting. Does the Jomtien baht bus charge 10 baht to go from Pattaya to Jomtien?[/QUOTE]Yes B10 from the corner of south road and 2nd road to about soi 9 on Jomtien beach road. They wait until full to go though.

[QUOTE=Cusland;1838885]I live in Pattaya and speak fluent Thai also. Yes you get the occasional comment but maybe more is directed at you? Do you sit all day drinking LEO in a wife beater never smiling or using your fluent Thai to be polite to people? Couple of questions for you. Q 1. Why are you on a sex forum if you're not sleeping with Thai women. Q 2. If you hate or distrust half the population (or more) that much why don't you fuck off somewhere where you actually like and respect the people?[/QUOTE]Oh dear dear, must have touched a nerve Mr Cusland, go back and read the posts my touchy friend, where did I say I never slept with Thai women? I never said that, I said I don't get involved in relations with them, I fuck them short time, I even stated here they make great fuck buddies. For gods sake, can you not read dear man,? Maybe I should write it in Thai for you?

Secondly, I can live where the fuck I like, and I can comment on what the fuck I like, because of free speech, now if you don't like my posts, you can fuck off from the forum, its easy enough, our simply don't read my posts. Oh, and thirdly, I don't drink either, so, no, don't drink LEO, or beat the wife, so your wrong on all 3 points, never mind sir, we can't all be right can we? Have a nice day.