Sao Paulo Reports

[QUOTE=Xxxplorer;2896720]When I look at a web site such as Photo Acompanhantes, the prices listed per hour show 150 to 300 BR. Yet when I read here I see that gals charge 1000 BR at Scandallo and 500 BR at Cssarao. Even the ugly gals on the street near Cassarao ask 300-500.

Why such price discrepancies with the internet prices? Is it gringo pricing?[/QUOTE]Photo Accompanates is usually bait and switch. You don't know what you are getting. Scandello and Casarao are boates where you see what you are getting. Even the internet escort sites are pretty reliable with what is coming to your door but they are more expensive.

Gringo pricing does exist. Just learn to negotiate.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2896207]I usually go to Scandello solo. You don't need to drink anything or smoke anything or even get a booth to attract the women. All the women are working girls. Take a shower, smell good and dress nice (I wear a pair of jeans and a polo) and be nice. Just use the consumable part for the girls drinks if you want. Walk around and talk to a few to get an idea of how it works and then make your choice. The girls are used to foreigners using Google translate so make sure you use it.

Good luck and report back!![/QUOTE]I will be in the area around 630 pm today. I am unlikely to session, but considering going in to check out the vibe, and maybe return another time. If I have just a beer or two what should I expect to spend. Again I will not likely spend time in rooms just a walk around and see what it is all about. Who knows maybe my eyes will pop and give up on my Scandello celibacy.

[QUOTE=Xxxplorer;2896857]I will be in the area around 630 pm today. I am unlikely to session, but considering going in to check out the vibe, and maybe return another time. If I have just a beer or two what should I expect to spend. Again I will not likely spend time in rooms just a walk around and see what it is all about. Who knows maybe my eyes will pop and give up on my Scandello celibacy.[/QUOTE]The entrada is 300 before 7 PM and 500 after 7 PM with 300 of it that you can spend on food and drinks. You might as well make a dinner out of it. I usually have a steak and a salad for about 250, probably more now. You can get a beer or coffee to spend the rest of the consumable. You are paying for the premium to get the girls easily that you can't otherwise if you are not young or handsome. Haha.

[QUOTE=Xxxplorer;2896857]I will be in the area around 630 pm today. I am unlikely to session, but considering going in to check out the vibe, and maybe return another time. If I have just a beer or two what should I expect to spend. Again I will not likely spend time in rooms just a walk around and see what it is all about. Who knows maybe my eyes will pop and give up on my Scandello celibacy.[/QUOTE]You are going to pay R300 for entry which can be used for consumption so you might as well eat and drink with that money. Since you are coming in at 630, you will get the second shift of girls plus the first so you should see some good quality. The last shift comes in by 9 I think so you could hang around for that. While hanging around, get phone numbers of girls if you aren't willing to session and tell them that you will arrange with them outside the club.

What percentage of the photos on photo accompaniments are fakes? The girls & prices is the main reason I am thinking of visiting Brazil. I am thinking that it is better to go to escorts places? Very few of the ad have reviews. So wondering if there is another sites that does?

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2896728]Photo Accompanates is usually bait and switch. You don't know what you are getting. Scandello and Casarao are boates where you see what you are getting. Even the internet escort sites are pretty reliable with what is coming to your door but they are more expensive.

Gringo pricing does exist. Just learn to negotiate.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2895825]Hey man, did this TIM location ask for your original passport? I went to two near where I stay and they couldn't sell me SIMs without my physical passport.[/QUOTE]Went to TIM store inside mall, Paulista. The main road of area. Next to bunch of federal offices. It is prepaid. No passport or ID required. Got two prepaid SIM. One for my buddy from Florida. Took about 30 min for them start to end. Worked well in entire city. I also tried claro, vivo and they wanted Brazilian cedula

[QUOTE=Hargow20;2896927]What percentage of the photos on photo accompaniments are fakes? The girls & prices is the main reason I am thinking of visiting Brazil. I am thinking that it is better to go to escorts places? Very few of the ad have reviews. So wondering if there is another sites that does?[/QUOTE]Forget photo accompaniments, mate. It is too much work to find a decent girl and you are right, hunting down reviews is often times a futile gesture.

If money is a concern, stick with clinicas and RTFF. There are a ton of reports on them in this forum. IMHO the Moema clinicas provide the best bang for the buck in all of South America. So, I am a fan as well as a frequent customer. And this advice is coming from a guy who also likes to spend his nights and $$ in boates like Scandallo & Bomboa. The bottom line is the clinicas are great!

[QUOTE=Xxxplorer;2896720]When I look at a web site such as Photo Acompanhantes, the prices listed per hour show 150 to 300 BR. Yet when I read here I see that gals charge 1000 BR at Scandallo and 500 BR at Cssarao. Even the ugly gals on the street near Cassarao ask 300-500.

Why such price discrepancies with the internet prices? Is it gringo pricing?[/QUOTE]This kind of contrast between online and clubs in just about every city. It's just a market segmentation.

Club girls: These girls may only get one client a day or one client every couple of days. They need to charge higher prices to make it worth it. However, these girls may have lower mileage. Clubs also have room costs. You also have the ability to see the girl before paying here. Further, clients at clubs tend to have more money, meaning not just foreigners but also locals. You go to a club expecting to pay 500-1000 Reais so the street girls charge proportionally more. If you have been to Medellin, it is the same as Centro vs Parque Lleras street girls.

Online: Since these girls are at a more accessible price point, they tend to get more clients. It's not rare to have an online girl get 5-7 clients per day which adds up to over 2000 Reais / day for some girls. This involves more actual sex though but the clients are just a text away. Bait and switch is also an issue here.

It all comes down to what kind of experience you prefer and what your budget is. Personally, from my time in Scandello, I haven't found any girl that is hot enough to justify spending an extra 700 Reais in Brazil. But for some more time poor and financially rich, or more discerning mongers, perhaps the story is different. Explore different options and see what works for you.

I'm with you on this. In my experience it's not really unique to Brazil. All the major metro areas around the world where I've been active (it's more than a few) have this kind of segmentation. The pattern I've noticed is the difference between the venue facilities is much bigger than the difference between the quality of the girls. The difference between the girls shrinks as you move toward the middle of the segments to the point that they are virtually indistinguishable when there is less than 20% cost difference. Scandallo is a place that fits well with the thriving businessman market in Sao Paulo. I think I am one of many who first experienced it while on a business trip. Think about Abbobora vs Scandallo. If you take away the sushi, cigars, and "elegant" facilities, would any of us seriously consider paying the 300%+ premium for the Scandallo girls?

[QUOTE=DandyMan51;2897006]This kind of contrast between online and clubs in just about every city. It's just a market segmentation.

Club girls: These girls may only get one client a day or one client every couple of days. They need to charge higher prices to make it worth it. However, these girls may have lower mileage. Clubs also have room costs. You also have the ability to see the girl before paying here. Further, clients at clubs tend to have more money, meaning not just foreigners but also locals. You go to a club expecting to pay 500-1000 Reais so the street girls charge proportionally more. If you have been to Medellin, it is the same as Centro vs Parque Lleras street girls.

Online: Since these girls are at a more accessible price point, they tend to get more clients. It's not rare to have an online girl get 5-7 clients per day which adds up to over 2000 Reais / day for some girls. This involves more actual sex though but the clients are just a text away. Bait and switch is also an issue here.

It all comes down to what kind of experience you prefer and what your budget is. Personally, from my time in Scandello, I haven't found any girl that is hot enough to justify spending an extra 700 Reais in Brazil. But for some more time poor and financially rich, or more discerning mongers, perhaps the story is different. Explore different options and see what works for you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2896207]I usually go to Scandello solo. You don't need to drink anything or smoke anything or even get a booth to attract the women. All the women are working girls. Take a shower, smell good and dress nice (I wear a pair of jeans and a polo) and be nice. Just use the consumable part for the girls drinks if you want. Walk around and talk to a few to get an idea of how it works and then make your choice. The girls are used to foreigners using Google translate so make sure you use it.

Good luck and report back!![/QUOTE]In the threads I've read (a lot of them) on the termas they say the sequence is to pay house fee then up to locker room into a bath robe and then back down to bars and lounges (in most cases anyway). When in Rome I guess, but doesn't a punter feel a bit odd sitting in a bathroom having dinner or drinks?

I noticed Casarao isn't open until 10 pm. Which begs question whether that area after midnight is safe for a gringo tourist and whether there are Ubers easily assessable from there.

On issue of trying to negotiate either BBFS inside or getting phone numbers for action outside the club, is that against house rules even bringing up? Trying to avoid downside risk of a 220 lb BJJ bouncer confronting me if one of the girls decides to inform the house (I'm only a grey belt. Haha).

This is true for 6's and 7's, it's hard for them to get more than two clients in one night.

8's and above, like this scandallo girl who f*cked like it was the finals of the world cup, in a good night, let's say F1 week and soccer finals, they get up to 4 clients in a day.

She was finishing her house with all that money. She was also very interested on my proposal for a private shoot because she would make a bit more "graninha" (little bit more money).

100% cooperative after the s*x as you can see.

[QUOTE=DandyMan51;2897006]This kind of contrast between online and clubs in just about every city. It's just a market segmentation.

Club girls: These girls may only get one client a day or one client every couple of days. They need to charge higher prices to make it worth it. However, these girls may have lower mileage. Clubs also have room costs. You also have the ability to see the girl before paying here. Further, clients at clubs tend to have more money, meaning not just foreigners but also locals. You go to a club expecting to pay 500-1000 Reais so the street girls charge proportionally more. If you have been to Medellin, it is the same as Centro vs Parque Lleras street girls.

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[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2897225]

She was finishing her house with all that money. She was also very interested on my proposal for a private shoot because she would make a bit more "graninha" (little bit more money).

100% cooperative after the s*x as you can see.[/QUOTE]HiddenEye,

There's a very high probability that I have sessioned with and even briefly dated the lady in your photos. Or this could be her twin sister.

[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2897203]In the threads I've read (a lot of them) on the termas they say the sequence is to pay house fee then up to locker room into a bath robe and then back down to bars and lounges (in most cases anyway). When in Rome I guess, but doesn't a punter feel a bit odd sitting in a bathroom having dinner or drinks?

[/QUOTE]Termas (lounges / bordellos) are in RJ. Boates (nightclub / bordellos) are mainly in SP. Perhaps you are mixing up Solarium Terma (RJ) with Scandallo Boate (SP).

The major differences are:

Terma girls work for the house and the house sets the price which is the same for all girls. Rates are all inclusive but vary depending on the time and room size selected by the customer. Termas have small bars. Terma customers can change into a bath robe before entering the lounge area or not. It is up to you. Terma girls generally do not leave the Terma during their work shift unless the customer is willing to pay a prohibitory high fee designed to discourage such behavior.

Boate girls are independent contractors IE FLs, and their price can vary and is negotiated privately between the girl and a customer. The customer pays the girl directly after the session. A boate is a nightclub. Cover / entry fee & room fees are all separate expenses which are paid to the boate. Boate customers can take girls out of the club for an exit fee which is approximately the same price as a room charge. Customers never change clothes in a boate. On a typical Wed, Thurs, or Friday night Scandallo has maybe 150 girls or more girls hanging around, live musical entertainment, 3. 5 bars in full operation, plus a large restaurant.

These qualitative differences should be understood and considered before a 1st time visitor decides which destination suits his tastes and wallet. Termas are much cheaper than most boates. They also have less girls on hand, but the venue is still fun. Arguably the boates have a higher talent pool, but there are lovely exceptions to this. Therefore, it is up to the individual to figure out what these differences mean. Taste is in the eye of the beholder. There are nice girls to be found in both termas and boates. If you have the time, I suggest a visit to both cities to discover which road suits you best in the long run.

Maybe! When did you meet her?

This makes us milk brothers as we say in South America.

"Hermanos de chele" hahahahaha.

[QUOTE=Kib123;2897284]HiddenEye,

There's a very high probability that I have sessioned with and even briefly dated the lady in your photos. Or this could be her twin sister.[/QUOTE]

Steve great write up. I totally agree, with you. When I connect with a girl, we go all in GFE bareback. I usually bust my loads in her. If I see a girl that's a 9+ with great chemistry, then it normally goes like this. Day 1, we hook up, Day 2, we hook up again with more different positions, Day 3, we are BF & GF, total GFE, bareback in her pussy and asshole. Only a few get to Day 3 with me. But when they do make it to Day 3+, its glorious!!

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2896437]I straddle her again and start massage, working my way down to her ass. As I grind her ass crack with my dick I push it down to her pussy opening and say I will just touch it. But soon she is grinding in a circle and starting to inch my dick inside her. Before long I am fully inserted bareback and it's on! Love that SHE did it not me. I just had to make the opportunity!

OMG. No words for bareback with this goddess. Just absolutely epic. We are drunk as fuck and so despite the ecstatic feel, we go forever, eventually collapsing from pure sweaty exhaustion. But what a fuckton of fun.
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I agree with UniversalX. Its almost better to go solo then a group of dudes. No more than a 1 buddy if you must. Example: I get a bottle in the middle of area by the stage; let the girls drink, and I am surrounded by 5 of the hottest chicks on the planet. BTW having great fun conversations before I decide which I am taking upstairs. I'm good going solo or no more than 1 buddy LOL.

[QUOTE=UniversalX;2896321]Probably 50% if not higher are Solo Mongers. Not an issue at all. Sure, you will find groups of 2 or more but it's not an advantage or disadvantage unless you need a wingman to have fun. None, absolutely none, of the Ladies care if you are alone / solo. I tend to think women approach Solo guys a little more! Just go relaxed and have fun.

Your eyes will lead you one. Talk to a few or many. Get WhatsApp/phone numbers from the ones you may want to plan to see outside and or at your hotel room (especially if you're staying in SP over the weekend/Sunday).

Then pick a winner to take up to the inhouse rooms to pop your Scandallo cherry.
[B]This I Command!!![/B] [URL]https://youtu.be/ljQ76hjwyzQ?si=iDU3qw8txzisKSk2[/URL].

Good luck, I look forward to reading about your experience at Scandallo!![/QUOTE]

My personal favorite is Jardins due to the walkability great food spots and bars and shops. That's just my preference. And the traffic is not bad at all if you go to Scandallo after rush hour traffic. I have also stayed in Moema, etc. Etc. But I like the Jardins metro vibe.

[QUOTE=Robotron;2896113]Which neighborhoods and areas would you recommend or avoid staying in? I was thinking to book an airbnb near Scandallo since it might help avoid traffic.

Any experiences at Scandallo solo? Not big on smoking or drinking myself and based on reports it seems that's how you attract women with the name brand stuff and having a booth. Planning on visiting in June, and wondering if it'll be awkward if I went alone and got a booth for myself.

Don't see too many reports on freelancers or working girls on the street, if it exists at all here.[/QUOTE]

Krill bring back a lady to the Airbnb is never an issue. If the building has a security guard, hit him off with a small tip, he'll definitely always take care of you.

[QUOTE=Krilimag;2895506]Planning a trip to SP and perusing through the thread I gather that there are very few hotels that are girl friendly. I am leaning towards AirbnB with a booking for two adults.

Anyone used AirbnB before at SP that has any issues with bringing in girls?

I figured since my booking is for two adults that, bringing in a girl should not be a problem.[/QUOTE]

I can private message and would like to get a head start if anyone has a list of reliable girls on Facebook that I can add on my mongering page and or any numbers to any women from Scandallo? I plan to visit Sao Paolo and Rio.

Much appreciated.

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2897452]Krill bring back a lady to the Airbnb is never an issue. If the building has a security guard, hit him off with a small tip, he'll definitely always take care of you.[/QUOTE]Bad Advice. [B]I cannot stress this enough, read the HOUSE RULES section and then contact the host prior to booking and ask if you are able to have a visitor(s). [/B] Sometimes the visitor's policy is written in the house rules section and sometimes not.

(Example if I contact say 2 Airbnb Hosts regarding their visitor (s) policy at best 1 or 2 will allow).

Not all Host will allow visitors and it's not always in their control, Condos are usually the most restrictive, because it's the policy of the residence / condo board. I have been given many valid reasons by hosts as to why they do not allow visitors (regardless of residence type) in their apartments or restrictions on when visitors are allowed and not wanting overnight visitors.

No matter the reason I let them know I understand their position and do not book with them. There is always a Host who will accept / allow visitor (s). You giving a Doorman / Security Guard / Staff a "tip" may not only put their job at risk but could also get you thrown out of the apartment for violation of Host policy.

Just ask the Host if they allow you to have visitor (s) if not find one that will. [U]Violating or circumventing the Host House Rules can get you thrown out of the residence and potentially banned from Airbnb entirely. [/U].

Hey, I arrived sao Paulo a few day ago, any recommendation of websites with hot escort or any great brothels? And what the prices? Thankyou!

[QUOTE=Robotron;2897480]I can private message and would like to get a head start if anyone has a list of reliable girls on Facebook that I can add on my mongering page and or any numbers to any women from Scandallo? I plan to visit Sao Paolo and Rio.

Much appreciated.[/QUOTE]Dude. Why would you want someone else's choices? You are going to pussy paradise in SP. Pick your own choices. There is so much available 24/7. Enjoy!!

Critic makes a good valid point. My suggestion was obviously after you do all your due diligence on the place. I was merely mentioning to get friendly with the guard in the front, after everything Critic talked about. You definitely don't want to get kicked out at 12 am LOL.

[QUOTE=TheCritic;2897512]Bad Advice. [B]I cannot stress this enough, read the HOUSE RULES section and then contact the host prior to booking and ask if you are able to have a visitor(s). [/B] Sometimes the visitor's policy is written in the house rules section and sometimes not.

(Example if I contact say 2 Airbnb Hosts regarding their visitor (s) policy at best 1 or 2 will allow).

Not all Host will allow visitors and it's not always in their control, Condos are usually the most restrictive, because it's the policy of the residence / condo board. I have been given many valid reasons by hosts as to why they do not allow visitors (regardless of residence type) in their apartments or restrictions on when visitors are allowed and not wanting overnight visitors.

No matter the reason I let them know I understand their position and do not book with them. There is always a Host who will accept / allow visitor (s). You giving a Doorman / Security Guard / Staff a "tip" may not only put their job at risk but could also get you thrown out of the apartment for violation of Host policy.

Just ask the Host if they allow you to have visitor (s) if not find one that will. [U]Violating or circumventing the Host House Rules can get you thrown out of the residence and potentially banned from Airbnb entirely. [/U].[/QUOTE]

An. Some dudes like sloppy seconds. Its a fetish of sorts, so I heard. Like the guy who likes to go last on a train.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2897656]Dude. Why would you want someone else's choices? You are going to pussy paradise in SP. Pick your own choices. There is so much available 24/7. Enjoy!![/QUOTE]

MasterRochi. No disrespect. But if you read about 1-5 pages into this section, you will find all the info you need + more.

[QUOTE=MasterRochi;2897618]Hey, I arrived sao Paulo a few day ago, any recommendation of websites with hot escort or any great brothels? And what the prices? Thankyou![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2897832]MasterRochi. No disrespect. But if you read about 1-5 pages into this section, you will find all the info you need + more.[/QUOTE]He should also try doing some simple searches of these threads. His inquiry has been discussed ad nauseum here with many posts including lists of reputable websites to consider. In other words, RTFF first! There were no detailed responses (and won't be any) because the seasoned posters here long ago grew tired of fielding the same inquiries over and over and over again from lazy newbies. Read. Research. Learn. Then asked [B]informed[/B] questions that demonstrate you've done some homework already. [B]Then[/B] you'll get a better response from the readership.

Had a terrific night last week. Had one of the most gorgeous girls; slim waist, cute face, and a great booty. Love the slim waist and big booty.

I went to Bahamas Hotel Club (R. Dos Chans, 571, Moema) had a session with the slim waist, mirrors on the ceiling. Then I paid an exit fee for her and her friend inside Bahamas to go with me to Enigma Club (swingers). Oh man! Her friend ended up kissing this other girl who was with her boyfriend (allegedly, dude was from the UK LOL). Then my girls' friend and the new girl took it to by the stage area, and started eating each other out by the couch. Kissing each other all over. It was insane! Music was fun, drinks were great. Etc. Then ended up taking both girls from Bahamas back to my hotel for a final night cap. Both gave me BBBJ double top. We all ended up falling asleep, and woke up in the morning for a morning session, ordered them breakfast, and then they left about 10 am. What a great night. It always great when you find the outgoing fun girls, who are also chill.

Scandallo remains the king of the clubs; not just in Brazil but in the entire world! It is so large and luxe and packed with slim, built hotties that want to fuck you. Even the food is good for fuck sake. Heaven on earth and if you haven't been you have not lived a complete life.

I was traveling with my buddy Mark and we each logged multiple excellent experiences, banging 9 and 7 girls respectively, some multiple times. We hit Scandallo twice, Casarao once and the remainder dinner / hotel dates.

To understand how good São Paulo is, consider that the worst Boate experience of the combined experiences was me fucking a 9. 5 stunner named Isabella. And it was great by any other worldwide standard but decidedly mediocre for SP. Hahaha. Amazing.

Outside the boates, I will admit that Abobbora was underwhelming. Again it's not bad just doesn't compare to the Boates for me— some 7-8's but more fake tits. And sort of transactional. Just wasn't our scene.

Summarizing a few key points from my prior reports:

Scandallo rules. Luxe. Amazing vibe. 8-9+s. Don't rush. Spend time with the girls. Be prepared to spend some coin. Bring your own cigars. Beer is less than half mixed drinks price. Girls will ask 1500 but drop to 1000-1200 R when asked. Some may go lower but not the ones I wanted and I didn't push beyond a single counteroffer. Room 300. Class act is an understatement.

Casarao. Loud, crowded bar after midnight. Ghost town before midnight. Very reasonable cover and drinks. Lower brow local clientele and girls. 5-7 but some gems. Black TShirt and Jeans is de riguer. Found my 10 there. Maybe you will find urs?

Take Out. Some guys like to do takeout if the girls back to their rooms. General advice is do a session first to ensure the chemistry is there. Quite expensive at Scandallo and prob even out of my league and I feel pretty well off. Casarao take out def an option and I got lucky w Mia. If you haven't slept overnight intertwined with a 20-25 year old hottie of late, high recommend.

Sunday. Sunday bites. Use your week to find a couple boate girls who would see you Sunday. Pick your fave and have dinner or have a party at your hotel room. It can be as much fun as the clubs — just different. And really your best option for a Sunday.

Boate girl recap (I had three other girls not listed here):

Maria Scandallo. Lovely girl. Nice body. Kinda Italian looking. Great English. Hot enthusiast wet fuck.

Duda Scandallo. (I had her name wrong in my report). No English. Rockin hot body if you like a short girl. Enthusiastic. Nice session.

Mia Casarao. Stunning. Legit 10 face and body. And a truly nice girl who seemed to like me and smiled 24/7. Good solid sex and felt like a GF from moment 1. Highlight of the Boate girls by a wide margin.

Isabella Scandallo. Stunning. 9. 5 with reduction for fake tits. A bit mechanical in bed but all the right stuff. Excellent on the worldwide scale and just OK for Scandallo.

Lulana Scandallo. Very hot slim tall girl. Tiny A cups. Great attitude. And Extremely fun in the bedroom. A real wildcat.

And then of course there was Manu who I flew from Rio. Not a Boate girl. Met on Seeking a year ago. Hot as fuck and affection off the charts with 24/7 kissing and hand holding. Fucked five times in two days. Jesus what s wildcat. My top girl despite scoring Mia the Ten at Casarao.

What kind of 9's and 10's we are talking about in Scandallo? Give me examples, like Adriana Lima and Gisele looking women? Any photos of women I can see?

By Gisele Bundchen style you mean, blonde, tall, slim and classy? Yes there are. A few but there are. Not in clinicas, from my experience.

This kind of working girls mostly at specific events. Argentina and Brasil.

[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2898049]What kind of 9's and 10's we are talking about in Scandallo? Give me examples, like Adriana Lima and Gisele looking women? Any photos of women I can see?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2898049]What kind of 9's and 10's we are talking about in Scandallo? Give me examples, like Adriana Lima and Gisele looking women? Any photos of women I can see?[/QUOTE]First to clarify I have never seen a ten in Scandallo. In fact I've only run across two in my long life. One a Seeking Arrangement chick in Madrid and one at Casarao recently. That's it. Lifetime. Two tens.

I guess tastes vary because I don't even find Giselle attractive. A seven at best. Though Adriana Lima is super hot and you will def find that kind of girl there thonorob not those piercing eyes. My celebrity crushes run more to Jessica Alba in her late teens and twenties. And you can def see girls of that caliber at Scandallo. Not a pile of 9's but a large handful. To my taste Isa was a 9. 5. Nearly perfect but fake tits (well done) so prob a 9 after considering that.

A lot more 8's than 9's I think. But amazing in room experiences as well. No slackers at all save one bad pro decision I made two years ago.

[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2898049]What kind of 9's and 10's we are talking about in Scandallo? Give me examples, like Adriana Lima and Gisele looking women? Any photos of women I can see?[/QUOTE]You can't trust the internet so I will never post pics of my girls.

[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2898075]By Gisele Bundchen style you mean, blonde, tall, slim and classy? Yes there are. A few but there are. Not in clinicas, from my experience.
[/QUOTE]Tall & slim is my new favorite type. I have met 3 in Scandallo and 1 in Bomboa. KKK. But I will always love slender spinners.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2898092]First to clarify I have never seen a ten in Scandallo. In fact I've only run across two in my long life. One a Seeking Arrangement chick in Madrid and one at Casarao recently. That's it. Lifetime. Two tens.

I guess tastes vary because I don't even find Giselle attractive. A seven at best. Though Adriana Lima is super hot and you will def find that kind of girl there thonorob not those piercing eyes. My celebrity crushes run more to Jessica Alba in her late teens and twenties. And you can def see girls of that caliber at Scandallo. Not a pile of 9's but a large handful. To my taste Isa was a 9. 5. Nearly perfect but fake tits (well done) so prob a 9 after considering that.

A lot more 8's than 9's I think. But amazing in room experiences as well. No slackers at all save one bad pro decision I made two years ago.[/QUOTE]I have to agree with you on this. I think Giselle is hot, especially in her younger days, but beautiful / not really. Adriana is hot. I would not turn a girl that looked like her away unless her price as stratospheric as it probably would be although you never know. A young Jessica; I think I would have take her upstairs regardless of price unless she was not nice during the audition.

Most of my Scandallo girls are in the 6. 5 to 7. 8 range ie real good looking girls with very friendly personalities if you know what I mean. KKK, At this level it all comes down to personality and attitude IMHO. A 10 is really a fantasy. I have attached an example of my 10, but she did not age well. Still, I envy the fuckers who knew her when she was hot.

Would you say there's a minimum mix of different nationalities at Scandallo or the other high end clubs like Asians, Russians, Etc, and are all these women slim or some curvier?

For those who have picked up Seeking girls, how do you usually converse with them, and what are the recommend safe parts of town to meet up with them or are they more willing to come straight to your room? I'm not sure how direct to be online, like just offer appointments and allowance. I don't have the best luck here in the states but since I'll be "richer" in this country, I'm hoping to improve those odds.

[QUOTE=Robotron;2898201]Would you say there's a minimum mix of different nationalities at Scandallo or the other high end clubs like Asians, Russians, Etc, and are all these women slim or some curvier?

For those who have picked up Seeking girls, how do you usually converse with them, and what are the recommend safe parts of town to meet up with them or are they more willing to come straight to your room? I'm not sure how direct to be online, like just offer appointments and allowance. I don't have the best luck here in the states but since I'll be "richer" in this country, I'm hoping to improve those odds.[/QUOTE]They are all Brazilians. You might meet a Colombian or a Venezuelan but it is rare. There might be a few Japas (Brazilian / japanese mix) but that is it. Girls come in all flavors and sizes.

I don't think Seeking is really necessary in SP with all the available options but give it a try if you wish.

[QUOTE=Robotron;2898201]Would you say there's a minimum mix of different nationalities at Scandallo or the other high end clubs like Asians, Russians, Etc, and are all these women slim or some curvier?

For those who have picked up Seeking girls, how do you usually converse with them, and what are the recommend safe parts of town to meet up with them or are they more willing to come straight to your room? I'm not sure how direct to be online, like just offer appointments and allowance. I don't have the best luck here in the states but since I'll be "richer" in this country, I'm hoping to improve those odds.[/QUOTE]Scandallo usually have more light-skinned girls compare to elsewhere, probably more educated on average.

You can take Seeking girls to any good restaurants, which are are numerous in SP. The first time I used translator, and you will have no problem if you make it clear that you don't speak the language. If they are on Seeking, they probably are looking for gringos. This answer your other question in Medellin. You don't have to pretend you are not gringo. If the Brazilian girl does show up to meet you, I would guess it's 90% they would go back with you. You can be direct about payment in Brazil or Colombia during your date if you want. Some may bring it up during online conversation.

It's easy to talk about sex in Colombia and Brazil. I never talk about sex with any regular women in USA. In Brazil and Colombia, my experience is that they would bring it up as a conversation topic when there is a chance, regardless of their social status.

[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2898049]What kind of 9's and 10's we are talking about in Scandallo? Give me examples, like Adriana Lima and Gisele looking women? Any photos of women I can see?[/QUOTE]If you have no problem with the cost, Scandallo is the club that is most likely to provide you with the satisfaction of having sex with the best looking girls in the business of selling sex. Unlike places like La Isla in Medellin, the girls hold back services like they don't want your business, Scandallo is the opposite. This is also true if we are talking about many clubs all over Brazil. The girl at Scandallo actually spend more than 1 hr with you if you are someone who like to chat romantically, that part is free.

Your two examples represent the North or Northeast of Brazil and South of Brazil. If you want to find someone like Lima, she has a typical facial appearance that actually is not hard to find in her home state. Gisele seems to be popular there too, because I see her pictures in the mall all the time, more than Lima.

It's hard to describe what is beauty. Some features can be improved, sometimes that is the difference of a girl being able to make a living at Scandallo or Tangara.

Fellows getting close to a trip to SP and now on the lookout for lodging choices. I am leaning towards love motels for long term use (a few days). Has anyone used love motels for long periods?

Any suggestion of which love motel will be closer to the clinicas / boates?

TY in advance to all feedback.

[QUOTE=Krilimag;2899075]Fellows getting close to a trip to SP and now on the lookout for lodging choices. I am leaning towards love motels for long term use (a few days). Has anyone used love motels for long periods?

Any suggestion of which love motel will be closer to the clinicas / boates?

TY in advance to all feedback.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you're asking for trouble if you hang around a place where all the SW and their Jose's hang around imo who know you have money.

Going off this topic, what's the min and max I should spend for a 12 day trip in room / housing fees, and airbnb or hotel as I'm on a budget? I would stay in Sao Paulo and likely visit Rio as well from, and would like security and be able to bring girls anytime. Probably asking for too much, I know.

Purpose of the trip would be at least visit Scandallo, so would like to know the recommended days to visit, and same for Rio. Would land in Sao Paulo Thursday Morning, leave Sunday Night.

Off topic, do any of you pick up girls off the beaches for sex and anyone know why there aren't many pictures of Scandallo club inside or the girls who visit? Could not find anything from the Passport Bros video either. I do have PM access for any of these messages and appreciate all responses.

[QUOTE=Krilimag;2899075]Fellows getting close to a trip to SP and now on the lookout for lodging choices. I am leaning towards love motels for long term use (a few days). Has anyone used love motels for long periods?

Any suggestion of which love motel will be closer to the clinicas / boates?

TY in advance to all feedback.[/QUOTE]No safes in motels I think. Plus, the ones that are best value for money are in the suburbs. Couple that with no breakfasts and some dodgy guests in the room next door (eg partying with drugs etc.), not sure it's a good idea. I did photo-sessions with a girl in 2 motels in SP, and if I remember right neither room had windows to the outside. It may feel like a a prison cell after a couple of days. There's a reason why such "moteis" get rented for a few hours at a time.

You will take a cab to the clinicas anyway (except if you stay in Moema within walking distance of 3 or 4 clinicas).

The accommodation problem in SP is the sky-high prices of hotels and AirBnbs. That's why if I go to Brazil again I'll go to Rio as it seems prices there are reasonable. I may stand corrected though.

[QUOTE=XXL;2899258]No safes in motels I think. Plus, the ones that are best value for money are in the suburbs. Couple that with no breakfasts and some dodgy guests in the room next door (eg partying with drugs etc.), not sure it's a good idea. I did photo-sessions with a girl in 2 motels in SP, and if I remember right neither room had windows to the outside. It may feel like a a prison cell after a couple of days. There's a reason why such "moteis" get rented for a few hours at a time.

You will take a cab to the clinicas anyway (except if you stay in Moema within walking distance of 3 or 4 clinicas).

The accommodation problem in SP is the sky-high prices of hotels and AirBnbs. That's why if I go to Brazil again I'll go to Rio as it seems prices there are reasonable. I may stand corrected though.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the breakdown appreciate it.

[QUOTE=XXL;2899258]No safes in motels I think. Plus, the ones that are best value for money are in the suburbs. Couple that with no breakfasts and some dodgy guests in the room next door (eg partying with drugs etc.), not sure it's a good idea. I did photo-sessions with a girl in 2 motels in SP, and if I remember right neither room had windows to the outside. It may feel like a a prison cell after a couple of days. There's a reason why such "moteis" get rented for a few hours at a time.

You will take a cab to the clinicas anyway (except if you stay in Moema within walking distance of 3 or 4 clinicas).

The accommodation problem in SP is the sky-high prices of hotels and AirBnbs. That's why if I go to Brazil again I'll go to Rio as it seems prices there are reasonable. I may stand corrected though.[/QUOTE]Not sure what sky high prices means. You can get a great 4 star hotel in SP in a nice part of the city for $60/ night. This is so cheap. I was amazed at how low priced hotels in SP are. High recommend on the Mercure Ibirapuera Privilege. Had a great attached restaurant, large outdoor pool compared to most. Totally girl friendly. Top notch.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2899298]Not sure what sky high prices means. You can get a great 4 star hotel in SP in a nice part of the city for $60/ night. This is so cheap. I was amazed at how low priced hotels in SP are. High recommend on the Mercure Ibirapuera Privilege. Had a great attached restaurant, large outdoor pool compared to most. Totally girl friendly. Top notch.[/QUOTE]Steve how is the acoustic in the rooms at Mercure Privilege?

Being it close to the airport.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2899298]Not sure what sky high prices means. You can get a great 4 star hotel in SP in a nice part of the city for $60/ night. This is so cheap. I was amazed at how low priced hotels in SP are. High recommend on the Mercure Ibirapuera Privilege. Had a great attached restaurant, large outdoor pool compared to most. Totally girl friendly. Top notch.[/QUOTE]Hotel prices are not cheap. Just check hotel websites and see how expensive they are. For example, the Mercure Ibirapuera Priviledge costs $115/ night.

[URL]https://all.accor.com/ssr/app/accor/rates/3124/index.en.shtml?dateIn=2024-03-13&nights=2&compositions=2&stayplus=false&snu=false&accessibleRooms=false&hideWDR=false&hideHotelDetails=true[/URL]

Airbnb or apartment rentals are way cheaper. I am currently staying in an airbnb in the Mercure Priviledge for about $45/ might.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2899330]Hotel prices are not cheap. Just check hotel websites and see how expensive they are. For example, the Mercure Ibirapuera Priviledge costs $115/ night.

[URL]https://all.accor.com/ssr/app/accor/rates/3124/index.en.shtml?dateIn=2024-03-13&nights=2&compositions=2&stayplus=false&snu=false&accessibleRooms=false&hideWDR=false&hideHotelDetails=true[/URL]

Airbnb or apartment rentals are way cheaper. I am currently staying in an airbnb in the Mercure Priviledge for about $45/ might.[/QUOTE]Def if you can get cheaper by Airbnb then by all means. My company doesn't allow Airbnb. But I would also say that particular Mercure is particularly nice. There are plenty of hotels for $60/ night. Plus I consider $120/ night cheap. I mean that's your basic Holiday Inn in the US.

Fellows appreciate the feedback on my inquiry about lodging choice. Special shoutout to XXL, Steve9696, and Jimmy Boy 99.

I am now down to three choices:

1. Mercure Privilege in ibirapuera.

2. Wyndham ibirapuera.

3. AirBnB in the same area of the two hotels listed above.

Need your help with pros and cons for each.

I would like to stay in the area because I think there are clinicas within walking distance from my choices above.

I would also intend to bring in a girl at some point during my trip so hopefully my choices will not give me a lot of hassle to bring a girl.

Lastly, definitely I will take a trip to scandallo so hopefully my choices are within close Uber ride.

Really need your pointers so I can make reservations.

TY in advance.

Ok Steve, you have singlehandedly put SP on my radar so I'm in data collection mode before an inevitable trip. Perusing our favorite site shows plenty I'd be interested in. $120 is indeed cheap for a good quality hotel but all of the 5 star luxury hotels are priced similar to any other city.

Based on the prices I've seen I don't consider Scandallo expensive per se. The price is the price. $100 to walk through the door with some food credit, $300 to bang a hot chick without negotiating. Probably about the same out of pocket as I'd spend on eastern European stripper take out. Assuming you don't go crazy on the booze. Let me know if I'm out of line but these prices don't sound crazy to me.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2899347]Def if you can get cheaper by Airbnb then by all means. My company doesn't allow Airbnb. But I would also say that particular Mercure is particularly nice. There are plenty of hotels for $60/ night. Plus I consider $120/ night cheap. I mean that's your basic Holiday Inn in the US.[/QUOTE]

My advice is plan early. Once you know or think you know when you want to visit SP start looking for flights and hotels. Personally, I have sufficient funds to pretty much do whatever I like, but within limits sadly, on account of the fact that, I am not worth $20,000,000. KKK. So, I am willing to pay more for a flight with a no penalty for flight changes & enlarged leg room seating or whatever a particular airline wants to call extra leg room coach. I am also willing to pay up and book direct (non-stop) flights when available. I like business class too, but at double the price of extra legroom coach, it is just not worth it to me. My spending priorities are #1 any girls I want within reason, KKK, #2 any restaurant I want, #3 preferred 5-star hotels and if too costly then friendly, well located 4-stars will do. Having hotel points and voucher nights for many corporate hotel chains make the 5-star hotels feasible for me in SP because otherwise I would not stay at a joint like the Renaissance and pay over $250/ night. $180 cash for a 5 star right at my limit. I really do not like to pay that much.

But hotel prices in SP seem to have gone through the roof since Nov 2023-Jan 2024 and are severely testing my limit. For example, in November 2023, I stayed at the Hyatt for $125/ night for a week. For dates in June / July 2024 the Hyatt wants $180 or more when I booked a combined points & voucher reservation for a week in June 2024 at that hotel. I think they want even more $$$ for the same dates now. I also booked the Marriott Exec hotel for $125 for July, but I had to reserve 2 weeks in a row to get that rate. I believe this hotel is now asking $200 night which is unbelievable to me. KKK. But the surprise deal of my upcoming trip was with the JW Mariott for points. Usually that hotel is much more expensive in points or dollars than the Rennaissance. Not this time when I was looking, so I booked the JW for a bargain rate number of points (much cheaper than the Renaissance) and as a result, I am now out of Marriot points. KKK.

Anyway, all SP hotel prices across the board are going through the roof for June-August 2024 winter season. I have no idea of why except it must be function of demand, so I am glad I started booking my hotels back in January almost as soon as I got back home from my last trip. KKK. For example, in June 2023, I stayed for a week at the Grand Mercure SP Itaim Bibi, a real nice 4 star hotel, for $85/ night. Now they are asking $180/ night for a week in June 2024. I could give many more examples.

But the key thing to keep in mind is that all my hotel reservations are refundable in points or of a pay later with no cancelation fee on the credit card type. That way if the hotel rates had declined from the time I booked, I could have easily cancelled my original reservations and made a new cheaper ones. Unfortunately, this is not happening this time around, but I am relatively happy because I locked in some pretty good rates for my upcoming trip which gets me back to my original piece of advice: plan early and book early.

Several off brand hotel chains also house individually owned condominium rooms and apartments that are on airbnb. It's sort of the best of both worlds.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2899347]Def if you can get cheaper by Airbnb then by all means. My company doesn't allow Airbnb. But I would also say that particular Mercure is particularly nice. There are plenty of hotels for $60/ night. Plus I consider $120/ night cheap. I mean that's your basic Holiday Inn in the US.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2899380]But hotel prices in SP seem to have gone through the roof since Nov 2023-Jan 2024 and are severely testing my limit. For example, in November 2023, I stayed at the Hyatt for $125/ night for a week. For dates in June / July 2024 the Hyatt wants $180 or more when I booked a combined points & voucher reservation for a week in June 2024 at that hotel. I think they want even more $$$ for the same dates now. I also booked the Marriott Exec hotel for $125 for July, but I had to reserve 2 weeks in a row to get that rate. I believe this hotel is now asking $200 night which is unbelievable to me. KKK. But the surprise deal of my upcoming trip was with the JW Mariott for points. Usually that hotel is much more expensive in points or dollars than the Rennaissance. Not this time when I was looking, so I booked the JW for a bargain rate number of points (much cheaper than the Renaissance) and as a result, I am now out of Marriot points. KKK. Anyway, all SP hotel prices across the board are going through the roof for June-August 2024 winter season. I have no idea of why except it must be function of demand, so I am glad I started booking my hotels back in January almost as soon as I got back home from my last trip. KKK. For example, in June 2023, I stayed for a week at the Grand Mercure SP Itaim Bibi, a real nice 4 star hotel, for $85/ night. Now they are asking $180/ night for a week in June 2024. I could give many more examples.[/QUOTE]I totally agree! I was looking at hotels recently as I plan for my next trip to Brazil, and I was a little taken aback at the pricing. I saw plenty of properties asking for $180 a night and up, which is high for Brazil. I typically like to keep it at or under $150 a night, and that typically has never been a problem with plenty of good properties to choose from. I still found more than enough in my price range, but not as many as usual or located exactly where I want to be in every case. Like you, I'm not sure what's going on. You would think it's demand, but Brazilians don't think like North American businessmen. I mean, they'll do the exact opposite and raise prices on goods and services when demand is low instead of dropping prices in order to entice more people to spend more money. So, who knows?

[QUOTE=FilthyBeaver;2899361]Ok Steve, you have singlehandedly put SP on my radar so I'm in data collection mode before an inevitable trip. Perusing our favorite site shows plenty I'd be interested in. $120 is indeed cheap for a good quality hotel but all of the 5 star luxury hotels are priced similar to any other city.

Based on the prices I've seen I don't consider Scandallo expensive per se. The price is the price. $100 to walk through the door with some food credit, $300 to bang a hot chick without negotiating. Probably about the same out of pocket as I'd spend on eastern European stripper take out. Assuming you don't go crazy on the booze. Let me know if I'm out of line but these prices don't sound crazy to me.[/QUOTE]Hey FB. I recommend Mercure Privilege Ibirapuera fully. Best feature is the restaurant right downstairs. It's got a lovely terrace and the staff are great. We would pop down for a couple Caipirinhas and snacks and back up for round 2. It's just super convenient and food is good. There is an AMAZING sushi place just one block away called Peixe ao Cubo. Bar de Juarez is just a couple blocks to grab some chopp (draft beer) and picanha (amazing Brazilian cut of beef)

Scandallo is a 25 min uber. Uber is sooo inexpensive. That Scandallo ride costs $6 usd. LOL.

You are spot on on your Scandallo prices. If you party hearty its going to be $400 one girl and $800 two girls. Scandalous prices for Brazil. And totally cheap compared to a lot of the world. Yep you got it right.

I feel a report working it's way down my arm and into my fingers.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2899443]Hey FB. I recommend Mercure Privilege Ibirapuera fully. Best feature is the restaurant right downstairs. It's got a lovely terrace and the staff are great. We would pop down for a couple Caipirinhas and snacks and back up for round 2. It's just super convenient and food is good. There is an AMAZING sushi place just one block away called Peixe ao Cubo. Bar de Juarez is just a couple blocks to grab some chopp (draft beer) and picanha (amazing Brazilian cut of beef)

Scandallo is a 25 min uber. Uber is sooo inexpensive. That Scandallo ride costs $6 usd. LOL.

You are spot on on your Scandallo prices. If you party hearty its going to be $400 one girl and $800 two girls. Scandalous prices for Brazil. And totally cheap compared to a lot of the world. Yep you got it right.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FilthyBeaver;2899361]Ok Steve, you have singlehandedly put SP on my radar so I'm in data collection mode before an inevitable trip. Perusing our favorite site shows plenty I'd be interested in. $120 is indeed cheap for a good quality hotel but all of the 5 star luxury hotels are priced similar to any other city.

Based on the prices I've seen I don't consider Scandallo expensive per se. The price is the price. $100 to walk through the door with some food credit, $300 to bang a hot chick without negotiating. Probably about the same out of pocket as I'd spend on eastern European stripper take out. Assuming you don't go crazy on the booze. Let me know if I'm out of line but these prices don't sound crazy to me.[/QUOTE]Between the Mercure Privilege Ibirupeura and Mercure Times Square I would definitely choose the latter. Both are located in Moema and offer pretty easy access to the clinicas. But the Mercure Times Square is much better situated in terms of being able to easily walk to restaurants, banks, grocery stores, and shopping. I even found a good barbershop nearby. It's also better placed in terms of avoiding airport noise. I found the rooms to be nicer at Times Square with better temperature control too. Yes, Privilege has the restaurant downstairs, but I didn't find it to be anything special and didn't like the service either. I preferred to eat elsewhere and only used the restaurant at times for convenience sake. There were usually taxis waiting outside for passengers so that was convenient as well. The neighborhood is also good, and I felt safe being out and about and walking at all times of day and night. I'm weighing in because I've stayed at both and most definitely have a strong preference for the Mercure Times Square over the Mercure Privilege for the reasons I've stated. Though no restaurant it's more modern and nicer in a better and more convenient location in Moema.

Anyone here booked a full day with a WG? There's an offer I'm tempted to.

Make with one who has positive review except I wouldn't really know what to do for 24 hours especially since I'll be staying in an Airbnb. At this point because of length, I'm assuming it would make sense to negotiate via text all we can do such as ask if she's open to BBFS or any other fetish I may have?

Just wondering what prevents her from leaving during this time period as well if I pay her upfront, we fuck for some hours, then she dashes once we go out to eat somewhere, or does all payment happen at the end.

If you're not sure what you'd do I'd definitely rethink this plan. If I'm going long term with someone there needs to be some amount of chemistry / mutual interest otherwise it's going to get awkward.

There are a million and one reasons why she couldn't and a million and two excuses why she wouldn't go long term. If she doesn't enthusiastically agree I'd be very skeptical. If you're worried about her bailing give her half up front and tell her you'll give her the other half at the end. If she's serious and likes you there won't be any problem.

[QUOTE=Robotron;2899558]Anyone here booked a full day with a WG? There's an offer I'm tempted to.

Make with one who has positive review except I wouldn't really know what to do for 24 hours especially since I'll be staying in an Airbnb. At this point because of length, I'm assuming it would make sense to negotiate via text all we can do such as ask if she's open to BBFS or any other fetish I may have?

Just wondering what prevents her from leaving during this time period as well if I pay her upfront, we fuck for some hours, then she dashes once we go out to eat somewhere, or does all payment happen at the end.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FilthyBeaver;2899574]...... If you're worried about her bailing give her half up front and tell her you'll give her the other half at the end......[/QUOTE]You mean give money to a working girl who has done nothing for you?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2899584]You mean give money to a working girl who has done nothing for you?[/QUOTE]Yeah, I mean how many times do we have to warn newbies not to pay in advance? I give up. The best piece of advice I can give someone who thinks along these lines is stay home.

Think what you want but if I decide to spend an entire day (or more) with someone, there has to be mutual interest in the person outside of sex and some amount of trust. If building that trust requires me to ante then that's what I'll do.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2899584]You mean give money to a working girl who has done nothing for you?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Robotron;2899558]Anyone here booked a full day with a WG? There's an offer I'm tempted to..[/QUOTE]You can start with short time. If it works out, then you can get longer date. You should not be asked to pay before after first date. If she insist, NEXT. You problem is solved.

[QUOTE=Robotron;2899558]Anyone here booked a full day with a WG? There's an offer I'm tempted to.

Make with one who has positive review except I wouldn't really know what to do for 24 hours especially since I'll be staying in an Airbnb. At this point because of length, I'm assuming it would make sense to negotiate via text all we can do such as ask if she's open to BBFS or any other fetish I may have?

Just wondering what prevents her from leaving during this time period as well if I pay her upfront, we fuck for some hours, then she dashes once we go out to eat somewhere, or does all payment happen at the end.[/QUOTE]This is what I do but usually keep them for longer than a day. I enjoy the hunt at Scandello but then I am done after one or two nights. I don't have the social battery to be in those kind of places everyday trying out new girls. Having a connection is extremely important. And you can tell if there is a connection or not in a few minutes. I met a girl in Sept 2022 and she stayed the weekend with me. We had such a good connection that she was my only one for all of 2023 on all my trips to SP. It was so easy to just have her come over and not worry about being uncomfortable with each other. It was always BBFSCIP and she would do anal when she felt like it but it usually happened once or twice during the weekend. Unfortunately, she met someone early this year and I didn't get to see her on my last trip. But her relationship didn't work out so she got back in touch with me and maybe we will meet again in May.

To answer your questions. It all depends where you get her from. Like Scandello or a website or a clinica. I had some arrangements set up with girls from the web during Covid and then I had my last 2-3 girls set up from Scandello. Also, you need to make sure she understands you will pay her at the end of your time together. This way she won't bail on you. If she doesn't agree to payment at end, you can offer 50/50 and that is it. Do not offer to pay her up front. In your negotiations, you can ask for BBFS but make sure you have a recent STD test with you to put her at ease. Tell her what you are looking for and she will either do it or not. These girls have heard of everything so it isn't a shock to them.

Have fun and report back.

[QUOTE=FilthyBeaver;2899609]Think what you want but if I decide to spend an entire day (or more) with someone, there has to be mutual interest in the person outside of sex and some amount of trust. If building that trust requires me to ante then that's what I'll do.[/QUOTE]Well that makes sense. If you pay half up front and she never shows then you know that the session would have been bad.

Don't to offer a girl you've seen for the very first time a long term arrangement and give her anything up front. What I do is see them once or twice under standard "rules" f the venue which differ in different parts of the world. When I sense there's a connection and I REALLY like them I'll offer to see them outside of the venue. If they agree to the price I give them half when they show up at my door (on their dime) and immediately say I'll give them the other half when they leave (sometimes showing them the other half as I lock it in the safe). This has never failed me in any part of the world.

Don't pay any independent wg up front unless you're in the house's room. Sooner or later you'll get burnt.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2899904]Well that makes sense. If you pay half up front and she never shows then you know that the session would have been bad.[/QUOTE]

In regards to the overnight situation, I meant a upper end Professional Working Girl who has an active Twitter following and positive reviews, whom I've never met at all but was instantly attracted to her profile. Would be about 1,500 USD for the "day" along with any expenses of Food since hey I got to wine and dine her too, and I only considered this because I would have to fly her to me and really wanted to try her out. But I guess it would be far cheaper if I just flew myself to her and booked regularly.

On another note, do you all think Sao Paulo or Rio is worth it even on the rainy days? I'm looking at at least 5 constant days of heavy rain and thunderstorms Tues-Sunday on a potential 2 week visit this month, and I would want to hit up Scandallo on the "busiest" days of Wed and Thursday. Maybe the girls would settle for less because of the weather, or the best may not even show up at all.

Otherwise I'd have to wait until June, which may be pricier flight wise.

Woke up, it was drizzling, and saw some activity on the street thru my window. Wanted to check it out after breakfast. One of my favorite food item is pao na chapa. It's so common that I overlooked for a long time and now it is one of my favorite food. It's available all over Brazil but Sao Paulo is the best. It's crunchy and soft at the same time. You can treat it like toast and have the waiter add whatever you want. One of the best hot dog I have had was in Santa Catalina that has similar texture.

By the time I finished breakfast around 9:15, the even was at the end. I decided to follow the trail and reached the destination where there were different exercise or health related activities. On my way back I found a large crowd waiting at this cafe so I took note and plan to visit later. Discovery is one reason I like walking.

I stayed at different areas in Sao Paulo and there are always good bakeries around. I like them because I have most time in the morning. They are fast and you can ask them to make things how you want them. I don't prefer food that require explanation. Haha. I prefer girls that don't tell me her favorite restaurant is Nakka or some other famous ones. For the same type of girl, I prefer one with lower expection and tell me something that I don't know because it will last longer

Scheduled to have a date coming last night but she only sent me voice messages knowing that I have limited Portuguese. I got most of it but missed the part that she would come directly from work at a time earlier than I told her which caused some confusion because I had to deal with some house keeping problem in my apartment.

[QUOTE=Robotron;2900064]In regards to the overnight situation, I meant a upper end Professional Working Girl who has an active Twitter following and positive reviews, whom I've never met at all but was instantly attracted to her profile....[/QUOTE]Members are trying to tell you not do that. That's why some members said they give up advising people because some don't take advice. If they do, they would have read what have been written numerous times and not ask it again . You need to learn to walk before you run.

Don't pay before. Nothing is guaranteed but you will be on driver seat more if you pay after. Some girls will definitely bail on you even you pay after and it is a mater of how much you are going to pay her when she wants to leave. It makes no sense to make the girl stay when she does not want to. You need to read the context too. Anaggie maybe staying at a 5 star hotel. You are staying in an Airbnb and you will need to stock stuff well to provide the same level of comfort. I personally never pay for a girl to stay in Medellin, they just stayed that is part of the privilege of living there. I have a full fridge of drinks and food, and I can get many things quickly because they have delivery service to deliver things in 10 minutes. Medellin is very poor, most girls that we deal with don't have hot shower at home.

[QUOTE=Robotron;2900064]... I would want to hit up Scandallo on the "busiest" days of Wed and Thursday. Maybe the girls would settle for less because of the weather, or the best may not even show up at all.....[/QUOTE]Don't count on those days. Those days could be bad too. That's what some have written but when I went almost everyday of the week, Wednesday was dead, and Friday was not crowded but was great because the owner had invited agency girls to the club. Tuesday is good as it is like the start of the week. You need to take all posts into consideration to form a complete picture.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2900116]... I stayed at different areas in Sao Paulo and there are always good bakeries around. ....[/QUOTE]I had dinner at Margherita Pizzeria and I decided to walk back. I came across this bakery, Bella Paulista, which I knew about but forgot. I am pretty sure this one will be great based on the crowd.

I got a WhatsApp message from a woman I met elsewhere thru local friend. She said she miss me and like me. I think she had been waiting for me to make a move becasue there were hints. I asked if she knew I have left her city. She said she knew. I think she told me, although direct, because she knew it was too late. If you are wondering if she is hot. Only answer that people will believe is she looks ok. haha. But she is doing pretty well financially and independent based on what I have seen.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2900284]I had dinner at Margherita Pizzeria and I decided to walk back. I came across this bakery, Bella Paulista, which I knew about but forgot. I am pretty sure this one will be great based on the crowd.

[/QUOTE]I like Margherita Pizzeria too. If there is a better pizza place in SP I would like to know about it. I can't find one better. Bella Paulista looks good. I too like to walk around various neighborhoods in SP and take note of interesting restaurants with lots of customers I come across. I know the neighborhood covering your evening walk from Margherita to Bella Paulista. If you don't mind my asking, where are you staying?

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2900404]I like Margherita Pizzeria too. If there is a better pizza place in SP I would like to know about it. I can't find one better. Bella Paulista looks good. I too like to walk around various neighborhoods in SP and take note of interesting restaurants with lots of customers I come across. I know the neighborhood covering your evening walk from Margherita to Bella Paulista. If you don't mind my asking, where are you staying?[/QUOTE]I am staying in Santa Cecilia. I look for places with large work area, overlooking city skyline, with balcony, and preferably one bedroom.

I agree Margherita Pizzeria is top in terms for food quality and service. In the area I am currently staying. I may go to Veridiana for meeting date the first time. It's a little more romantic. Or Fôrno if I am alone or someone that I already know.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2900404]I like Margherita Pizzeria too. If there is a better pizza place in SP I would like to know about it. I can't find one better. Bella Paulista looks good. I too like to walk around various neighborhoods in SP and take note of interesting restaurants with lots of customers I come across. I know the neighborhood covering your evening walk from Margherita to Bella Paulista. If you don't mind my asking, where are you staying?[/QUOTE]Difficult choice because they are so many great pizzerias 'them São Paulo. However, Pizzeria Bráz and A Pizza the Moóca are always ranked among the best in São Paulo. I also like Camelo. Bráz (not too far from Marriott Executive Apartments) and Camelo have different stores spread around the city.

Hi, I have a few questions here.

1) has anyone ever tried getting girls phone numbers at scandallo and negotiate a better pricing during the day? Maybe inviting girls to your place for 500 Reais instead of 1000-1500?

I used to do it in Europe. Meet girls at boates, get their number and negotiate during the day.

2) Any recommended clinicas de massagems in Sao Paulo?

3) for those who been to casarao. If going out with the girl, have to pay 150 fee, and their drinks, is that correct?

Thanks.

I agree with Anaggie. I love my BBFSCIP girls. What I do normally, is have two, three, or sometimes four on my line up rotation. All 9. 5+ stunners, nothing less. (Don't get me wrong, I'll bang a 7 if she has some crazy booty that I love but face is eh. LOL). But for GFE she has to be a stunner. I'll call them up. If one is unavailable that week, for whatever reason she wants to say, then I call the next one. Like Anaggie, my #1 on the line up one time said she's in a relationship, I said, we'll keep in touch on instagram, then I called my #2. But I am always on the look out for keep a stable of at least 2 on rotation. Once I land, I connect with whichever, we go to local clinic, I pay for her std rapid tests, you can take PrEP for extra caution, if all is good, then BBFSCIP on FULL Throttle LOL. Once you established a GFE with them, they always don't mind getting most (if not all) of the money at the end. Especially, if I am paying for her cab ride, and the dining, and shopping. It's normally all good.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2899812]This is what I do but usually keep them for longer than a day. I enjoy the hunt at Scandello but then I am done after one or two nights. I don't have the social battery to be in those kind of places everyday trying out new girls. Having a connection is extremely important. And you can tell if there is a connection or not in a few minutes. I met a girl in Sept 2022 and she stayed the weekend with me. We had such a good connection that she was my only one for all of 2023 on all my trips to SP. It was so easy to just have her come over and not worry about being uncomfortable with each other. It was always BBFSCIP and she would do anal when she felt like it but it usually happened once or twice during the weekend. Unfortunately, she met someone early this year and I didn't get to see her on my last trip. But her relationship didn't work out so she got back in touch with me and maybe we will meet again in May.

To answer your questions. It all depends where you get her from. Like Scandello or a website or a clinica. I had some arrangements set up with girls from the web during Covid and then I had my last 2-3 girls set up from Scandello. Also, you need to make sure she understands you will pay her at the end of your time together. This way she won't bail on you. If she doesn't agree to payment at end, you can offer 50/50 and that is it. Do not offer to pay her up front. In your negotiations, you can ask for BBFS but make sure you have a recent STD test with you to put her at ease. Tell her what you are looking for and she will either do it or not. These girls have heard of everything so it isn't a shock to them.

Have fun and report back.[/QUOTE]

I always do it. First round in the boate, after a long conversation to check chemestry. After first round girls always give me the zapzap number and more important, reply the messages.

Then I propose more intimate visual production for our second encounter and most of the times we end up f**ing again after the shoot.

I have great walking tour videos about clinicas in SP. Drop me a pm for more specific info.

[QUOTE=MasterRochi;2900475]Hi, I have a few questions here.

1) has anyone ever tried getting girls phone numbers at scandallo and negotiate a better pricing during the day? Maybe inviting girls to your place for 500 Reais instead of 1000-1500?

I used to do it in Europe. Meet girls at boates, get their number and negotiate during the day.

2) Any recommended clinicas de massagems in Sao Paulo?

3) for those who been to casarao. If going out with the girl, have to pay 150 fee, and their drinks, is that correct?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2900523]I always do it. First round in the boate, after a long conversation to check chemestry. After first round girls always give me the zapzap number and more important, reply the messages. [/QUOTE]Hey Hidden, you do it / I do it / we all do it: that is we meet girls in the boate, audition them, have a good time drinking with them and test driving them, and if they pass the audition, we take them upstairs for a boom boom. It is the way its done. Afterwards you / me / everybody collects numbers of the girls we really like so we can arrange outside personal arrangements if WE want to. I end up not calling back most girls becasue there are so many great girls to play with, why bother, but occasionally I meet a keeper and I want to see more of her. KKK.

But what I think the OP was asking, was can one skip the in-house 1st session and by doing so somehow get a lower rate from a girl for a later assignation and save money. KKK. Now while this delay tactic might work with a Clinica or RJ Terma girl when she is not at work by dealing the house out of the transaction; for a boate girl the answer is no because a boate girl will always want her minimum fee, say X br for a session in or out of the boate. And since the customer has already paid a Boate entry fee to get into the club, the only savings he can achieve with this delay tactic is the room fee and +200 br is not worth putting off getting laid. IMHO. Also, one always has the option of taking a girl out of the boate, but the exit fee is set near the same amount as the room fee, so unless one wants LT right off the bat with a specific girl, it don't make much sense to take a girl I just met out of the club. That said, I have done it once or twice or three times with certain girls, and I have no regrets, but there was no real benefit to it either.

And what usually happens when I hook up with my repeat boate girls is I don't get a lower rate, I either get a little more time / an little more sex, or the upsell of a lot more time and a lot more sex. But outside the club hotel dates come with their own costs ie Uber, refreshments, and dinner. So for me I like seeing a few special girls repeatedly at my hotel and we make a night out of it, with no real savings involved, but with most girls, I enjoy doing them one or two times in the club and moving on.

[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2900523]I always do it. First round in the boate, after a long conversation to check chemestry. After first round girls always give me the zapzap number and more important, reply the messages.

Then I propose more intimate visual production for our second encounter and most of the times we end up f**ing again after the shoot.

....[/QUOTE]I think he wants to know if you get 50% or more off, without a session first.

Let me think. A couple of times, girls I had already sessioned, introduced me to her friends in the boate, and without sessioning we later met. Let's say "this is my friend bla bla bla" and made the contact.

But no big discount.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2900531]I think he wants to know if you get 50% or more off, without a session first.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2899680]You can start with short time. If it works out, then you can get longer date. You should not be asked to pay before after first date. If she insist, NEXT. You problem is solved.[/QUOTE]One of the most basic rules of this hobby. Always do a short test drive before committing to a longer date.

What's a clinica? Met a girl on seeking who says she is a professional (as in lawyer, Dr, accountant.) but also says she works in a clinica.

It's mentioned on this thread in several posts and Google is no help whatsoever.

[QUOTE=MasterRochi;2900475]Hi, I have a few questions here.
3) [b]for those who been to casarao. If going out with the girl, have to pay 150 fee, and their drinks, is that correct?[/b] Thanks.[/QUOTE]Op's question not answered. Anyone know? Is there any way to get around the fee?

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2900529]
[b]But what I think the OP was asking[/b], was can one skip the in-house 1st session and by doing so somehow get a lower rate from a girl for a later assignation and save money. KKK. Now while this delay tactic might work with a Clinica or RJ Terma girl when she is not at work by dealing the house out of the transaction; for a boate girl the answer is no because a boate girl will always want her minimum fee, say X br for a session in or out of the boate. And since the customer has already paid a Boate entry fee to get into the club, the only savings he can achieve with this delay tactic is the room fee and +200 br is not worth putting off getting laid. IMHO. Also, one always has the option of taking a girl out of the boate, but the exit fee is set near the same amount as the room fee, so unless one wants LT right off the bat with a specific girl, it don't make much sense to take a girl I just met out of the club. That said, I have done it once or twice or three times with certain girls, and I have no regrets, but there was no real benefit to it either.

And what usually happens when [b]I hook up with my repeat boate girls is I don't get a lower rate[/b], I either get a little more time / an little more sex, or the upsell of a lot more time and a lot more sex. But outside the club hotel dates come with their own costs ie Uber, refreshments, and dinner. So for me I like seeing a few special girls repeatedly at my hotel and we make a night out of it, with no real savings involved, but with most girls, I enjoy doing them one or two times in the club and moving on.[/QUOTE]So, what you and others are saying is there is [B]No Price Reduction (Discount/Lower Rate) [/B] from a Scandallo (or Boate girls in general) to meeting them outside of Boate (day / evening). So, if no discount why bother to meet outside? What advantage? [I]It would seem that a discount should be had but I understand if girls want to hold pricing the same whether inside or out. [/I].

It would now seem that your costs now increase since you're now providing for food / snacks / dinner / drinks / transportation and any other miscellaneous costs in addition to base rate. Not to mention upsell for more time or special x request. Again, why bother just do in Boate and forget outside since No advantage??

[QUOTE=UniversalX;2900648]Op's question not answered. Anyone know? Is there any way to get around the fee?

So, what you and others are saying is there is [B]No Price Reduction (Discount/Lower Rate) [/B] from a Scandallo (or Boate girls in general) to meeting them outside of Boate (day / evening). So, if no discount why bother to meet outside? What advantage? [I]It would seem that a discount should be had but I understand if girls want to hold pricing the same whether inside or out. [/I].

It would now seem that your costs now increase since you're now providing for food / snacks / dinner / drinks / transportation and any other miscellaneous costs in addition to base rate. Not to mention upsell for more time or special x request. Again, why bother just do in Boate and forget outside since No advantage??[/QUOTE]Honestly, just meet up with a girl and ask her. It's not like these girls have their donations posted on a website. Not one senior here is going to know how much a girl they've never met charges. Go to Scandallo, pay her asking rate at the bar, then find out the next day. Try offering long term and multiple visits a week. It's that simple.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2900404]I like Margherita Pizzeria too. If there is a better pizza place in SP I would like to know about it. I can't find one better. Bella Paulista looks good. I too like to walk around various neighborhoods in SP and take note of interesting restaurants with lots of customers I come across. I know the neighborhood covering your evening walk from Margherita to Bella Paulista. If you don't mind my asking, where are you staying?[/QUOTE]I really like these two places.

[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/HEKu1ekUUmgk5Maa8?g_st=ic[/URL]

[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/RyeMXS524FxF2RBN7?g_st=ic[/URL]

[QUOTE=UniversalX;2900648]Op's question not answered. Anyone know? Is there any way to get around the fee?[/QUOTE]The way I do it is to talk to the girl to cut a deal that she would agree to leave with me when her shift is over. There is no fee to pay whatsoever. I find a seat to wait and see the girl going to hotel with her stream of customers to have sex, very pleased knowing that I have saved money. Hehe.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2900677]I really like these two places.

[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/HEKu1ekUUmgk5Maa8?g_st=ic[/URL]

[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/RyeMXS524FxF2RBN7?g_st=ic[/URL][/QUOTE]Seems we need a new thread around here. Food in Brazil.

[QUOTE=FilthyBeaver;2900577]What's a clinica? Met a girl on seeking who says she is a professional (as in lawyer, Dr, accountant.) but also says she works in a clinica.

It's mentioned on this thread in several posts and Google is no help whatsoever.[/QUOTE]You can ask what type of clinica. It could be law clinic or dental clinic.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2900677]I really like these two places.

[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/HEKu1ekUUmgk5Maa8?g_st=ic[/URL]

[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/RyeMXS524FxF2RBN7?g_st=ic[/URL][/QUOTE]Hey Anaggie, I have been to Leggera Pizza Napoletana Jardins and I liked the restaurant. It is a very friendly, neighborly place and they made me a tasty pizza. But I think it is a shade below Margherita Pizzeria.

I have walked past La Braciera Pizzaria on Alameda Lorena many times on my walkabouts during the daytime and it looked like a nice, classy place from the outside. (It was always closed during my walks.) I will be sure to check it out one night on my next SP visit. Thanks,

A. H.

P.S. To Cane, yes, by all means, start up a Food in Brazil or better yet a Food in Sao Paulo thread. I have been thinking about writing up a "my favorite SP restaurants" report for some time. I would be happy to post to this new thread.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2900712]Seems we need a new thread around here. Food in Brazil.[/QUOTE]I concur, excellent idea for the foodies (FM. Food Mongers) here. It would be especially useful for those who seek good dining spots for either solo or date dining.

[QUOTE=TheCritic;2900827]I concur, excellent idea for the foodies (FM. Food Mongers) here. It would be especially useful for those who seek good dining spots for either solo or date dining.[/QUOTE]Like this thread (Mexico has a serious food culture): [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3698-Food-in-Tijuana[/URL].

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2900810]
[b]P.S. To Cane[/b], yes, by all means, start up a Food in Brazil or better yet a [B]Food in Sao Paulo thread[/b]. I have been thinking about writing up a "my favorite SP restaurants" report for some time. I would be happy to post to this new thread. [/QUOTE]Or [b]Sao Paulo Gastronome[/b] (a Gastronome is a lover of good food with a refined appreciation for culinary delights.)

[QUOTE=TheCane;2900712]Seems we need a new thread around here. Food in Brazil.[/QUOTE]Some food for you Cane.

Maybe not a discount in the $ money amount, per say. But she'll spend more time with you for the same money. And give that GFE, call her friends to come over too, if you both have a good connection, its a much better experience. Getting BBBJ on the cab ride to our dinner event, or BBCIP in a changing room of a high end shopping store, etc. LOL.

[QUOTE=UniversalX;2900648]Op's question not answered. Anyone know? Is there any way to get around the fee?

So, what you and others are saying is there is [B]No Price Reduction (Discount/Lower Rate) [/B] from a Scandallo (or Boate girls in general) to meeting them outside of Boate (day / evening). So, if no discount why bother to meet outside? What advantage? [I]It would seem that a discount should be had but I understand if girls want to hold pricing the same whether inside or out. [/I].

It would now seem that your costs now increase since you're now providing for food / snacks / dinner / drinks / transportation and any other miscellaneous costs in addition to base rate. Not to mention upsell for more time or special x request. Again, why bother just do in Boate and forget outside since No advantage??[/QUOTE]

I only eat food when its off her phat booty LOL.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2901079]Some food for you Cane.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;2901079]Some food for you Cane.[/QUOTE]Definitely "food for thought" LOL! No, forget the thought. What we need is action LMAO!

Asking for a discount was not in discussion, and I didn't know I was going to save the taxi.

Leaving from Unicred Vila Mariana to get her little present, her "graninha".

I wanted to try some new love motel spots without paying to try them with some help here. These are the ones I found that say their the best in Sao Paulo. Has anyone been to any of these or recommend a different one from the list. I have been to Lush, and it was pretty nice. A lot of mirrors, drinks, dim strobe lights, etc.

1. Lush.

2. Opium Motel.

3. Intense motel.

4. Apple Motel.

5. Adrenalina motel.

So many more.

Here a very complete guide:

[URL]https://www.guiademoteis.com.br[/URL]

From these, I know emooes and the classic Asturias in SP.

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2901321]I wanted to try some new love motel spots without paying to try them with some help here. These are the ones I found that say their the best in Sao Paulo. Has anyone been to any of these or recommend a different one from the list. I have been to Lush, and it was pretty nice. A lot of mirrors, drinks, dim strobe lights, etc.

[/QUOTE]

Awesome resource. Thanks, HiddenEye. Will be looking through this all weekend. Picking my next fave spot!! BBFSCIP baby!

[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2901541]Here a very complete guide:

[URL]https://www.guiademoteis.com.br[/URL]

From these, I know emooes and the classic Asturias in SP.[/QUOTE]

I keep seeing the word clinica associated with mongering in some posts. Of course I can't find one to cite right now. But could it possibly be a play on words like "cat house"?

[QUOTE=Nounce;2900736]You can ask what type of clinica. It could be law clinic or dental clinic.[/QUOTE]

I've been to scandallo and no it is not worth fucking a girl there. It is worth having dinner there once to credit against the consumable, but "then go to the clinicas which are world class".

How is the word clinica used here relate to a "legitimate" dental / medical clinic.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2900736]You can ask what type of clinica. It could be law clinic or dental clinic.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2885656]
But let's not forget Classic Hotel which resembles an inexpensive RJ Terma on super, super, super, steroids. Come to think of it, Classic is more like Casaro in this respect. But imagine 3 floors with hundreds and hundreds of young Indonesian girls on each floor and with the cost of a girl less than at Casaro. I mean seriously this is a must-see joint! You are either going to love it or hate it. It ain't like Scandallo, no way, but I will bet good money, you will love it.
[/QUOTE]Sorry for bringing up an oldish post and derailing SP forum off the tracks. I was was RTFF to get myself acquainted with SP for my maiden voyage.

Think I found all the info I need too in the past 40 pages. No one wants to be "that guy" asking all the silly questions.

That said, kudos to you showing some love to SEA outside of the SEA forums. I'm usually shocked that I don't see Jakarta being mentioned more. I guess its a mix of the distance and maybe fellas not being into asian girls.

When I went to classics I was highly impressed. Not only was the place awesome it was awesome while being in a muslim country. While I do like Indonesian I find Vietnamese to be the hottest. Unfortunately things are not so laid out there. Well at least not in Saigon.

Back to SP talk. Dam there are a ton of clinicas available. These are usually my goto. I think I have at least 20 on my hit list. It just may be worth going thru the pain of Lulas visa.

Anyhow will report back after my trip.

[QUOTE=FilthyBeaver;2901611]I keep seeing the word clinica associated with mongering in some posts. Of course I can't find one to cite right now. But could it possibly be a play on words like "cat house"?[/QUOTE]Clinica is of course a word referring to any type of clinic. Herein however it means "facade of a massage clinic for the sole purpose of paid sex". It's really not helpful to go to google maps for clinicas. Because you get dental and other types and you don't know what's what.

But that's ok. Because it's just spelled out here. Some of them are:

Tangara.

Miruna.

Prime.

Enjoy.

I am sure some worth board member can tell us a fairly exhaustive list. Many of them are in the Moema district.

So when this really beautiful young professional (or so she says) told me she worked in a clinica I didn't know if it was a clinic or massage place. Turns out her English isn't the best but I will definitely not be holding that against her. Really quite stunning and I don't say that very often. Ty again seeking!

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2901797]Clinica is of course a word referring to any type of clinic. Herein however it means "facade of a massage clinic for the sole purpose of paid sex". It's really not helpful to go to google maps for clinicas. Because you get dental and other types and you don't know what's what.

But that's ok. Because it's just spelled out here. Some of them are:

Tangara.

Miruna.

Prime.

Enjoy.

I am sure some worth board member can tell us a fairly exhaustive list. Many of them are in the Moema district.[/QUOTE]

When I go to tangara's website and try to WhatsApp them, WhatsApp is saying they are not on the app and I can send them an invite. Is there a hidden number or something?

Its like that sometimes. I don't even whatsapp these places anymore. I just show up. Some of them are close enough that you can just hop to the next one if there arent any you like at that location you started with.

[QUOTE=LvHobby;2901961]When I go to tangara's website and try to WhatsApp them, WhatsApp is saying they are not on the app and I can send them an invite. Is there a hidden number or something?[/QUOTE]

How does what work exactly? Will answer, hopefully my assumptions are correct that you are asking how do I get her to agree to BBFS and BBFSCIP = bareback-full-service-cum-in-pussy. Well, besides my great looks and charm LOL just kidding; First I treat her like a lady, like fine wine, then we agree to go to clinic (which I pay) for her to get tested. At the clinic or pharmacy they also provide one-day pills birth control if she is not already on BC. If you want extra caution, you can take PrEM. If all is good, tests are good, then its BBFSCIP. I do this for the ones I think I want to make my GFE's. I normally keep 2 to 3 on BBFS GFE status. Some don't agree, all good, then I just blow their back out with a condom on, then move on to the next stunner. But the one's that agree, love it, because I take them out to dinner, we go shopping, true GFE experience, and they'll BBBJ on the taxi drive to the mall, as an example. Its great when you find a good one.

[QUOTE=JohnJones22;2902014]Hold up. Bare back full service? For my own curiosity, how does that work? Do you have to show exams or?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2902232] go to clinic (which I pay) for her to get tested. [/QUOTE]What clinic do you use in SP for STD testing? How long does it take to get the results?

Every city, big or small, industry, beach front, has the moteis zone, so you can find love moteis for every budget, with big signs on the roads. From obscure basic ones, fetiche themed, till entire bungalows with every imaginable pool, cascade, showers, jacuzzi, pool bar, steam and dry saunas, etc.

This is because midclass brazilians live mostly in small apartments, and making s*x can be uncomfortable for the rest of the family. Lovers need a place to love, of course. And this country has thousands of interesting cities in the interior. Thousands.

It's simply another stuff f*cking outdoors in those moteis, next to a pool, cold beer, palm trees, sunset and those gorgeous women, helicopters flying by. Maybe something you can experience in Hawai or Miami for thousands of bucks. And the moteis in Brasilia, the city of the government, the talent walking on those bars, let me tell you! Politics and power bring lots of them. Expensive in brazilian terms.

Most pics 1500 Km inside Brasil. Very hot places indeed, expect 90-100 F in hot days.

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2901545]Awesome resource. Thanks, HiddenEye. Will be looking through this all weekend. Picking my next fave spot!! BBFSCIP baby![/QUOTE]

Typically, I stay in Jardins. Inside the Jardins Hospital there is clinic that conducts these rapid tests. You can do the same if you are Moema, or wherever else. First go to the hospital, ask for the service, and if they do not provide it they will give you the address close by to do so. However, Jardins and Moema hospital has a clinic inside. Go early!! Since this is a not an emergency, which it is an emergency for us because we want to fuck ASAP LOL, but for them they will make you wait. So go early, 8 am or so. Otherwise, if you go in the afternoon you will wait a few hours. You get results on the spot. Either you will both be leaving together in a taxi, or you will be sending her home. Either way, its a win win for you. Good luck.

Hospital Jardins, are. Artur de Azevedo, 1659 - Pinheiros, So Paulo. SP, 05404-013, Brazil.

[QUOTE=NoBuglyFitches;2902297]What clinic do you use in SP for STD testing? How long does it take to get the results?[/QUOTE]

Great information RealShaun. What kind of tests do you usually get and how much does it cost at these clinics?

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2902430]Typically, I stay in Jardins. Inside the Jardins Hospital there is clinic that conducts these rapid tests. You can do the same if you are Moema, or wherever else. First go to the hospital, ask for the service, and if they do not provide it they will give you the address close by to do so. However, Jardins and Moema hospital has a clinic inside. Go early!! Since this is a not an emergency, which it is an emergency for us because we want to fuck ASAP LOL, but for them they will make you wait. So go early, 8 am or so. Otherwise, if you go in the afternoon you will wait a few hours. You get results on the spot. Either you will both be leaving together in a taxi, or you will be sending her home. Either way, its a win win for you. Good luck.

Hospital Jardins, are. Artur de Azevedo, 1659 - Pinheiros, So Paulo. SP, 05404-013, Brazil.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=UniversalX;2900648]Op's question not answered. Anyone know? Is there any way to get around the fee?[/QUOTE]The only way to avoid the take out / saida fee is if the girl is finished with her shift and meets you after. She can either meet you at your hotel, your Airbnb or a love motel. I had one girl meet me around the corner from Scandallo! She only worked there for 1 week and hated them making extra money that she felt they didn't deserve. And she was a smart cookie, as I ended up giving her more than our agreement, as I saved on Saida fee.

If she tells the club she is leaving with a client, even though she is done with her shift, the club will still make you pay a saida fee. I had a newbie do that.

You aren't required to buy drinks or food for the girls. I see few guys buy drinks for girls at Casarso. Not buying a drink for a girl stands out more in Scandallo though. I think a drink is a small price to pay to take up her time to chat. A drink can get you 30-60 min with a girl. I usually don't offer to buy a drink right away. If I am interested in a girl, I would chat her up for about 5 minutes. If she passes the initial interview / chat, then I buy her a drink to talk more. If you have a bottle or a bucket of beers, you can also offer her from your "stash" I do find most girls drink gin with a mixer. Usually redbull tropical. So often times I have a bottle of gin for them and a bottle of single-malt for me.

There are a few low-class girls who will hit you up for a drink on introduction so I blow those off. One time a girl spilled her drink near my friend while walking by and asked him to get her a replacement! He doesn't even know her and hasn't spoken to her. And she almost spilled the wine on his pants! WTF!

I usually save offering food after I've spent awhile with a girl and have locked her down for the evening in terms of an overnight agreement. Other times I might offer food, if I am eating in the restaurant and a girl I am interested in chats with me a bit there.

[/QUOTE].[QUOTE]So, what you and others are saying is there is [B]No Price Reduction (Discount/Lower Rate) [/B] from a Scandallo (or Boate girls in general) to meeting them outside of Boate (day / evening). So, if no discount why bother to meet outside? What advantage? [I]It would seem that a discount should be had but I understand if girls want to hold pricing the same whether inside or out.

It would now seem that your costs now increase since you're now providing for food / snacks / dinner / drinks / transportation and any other miscellaneous costs in addition to base rate. Not to mention upsell for more time or special x request. Again, why bother just do in Boate and forget outside since No advantage??[/QUOTE]From my experience, there isn't much of a price reduction to seeing them outside. I prefer seeing girls for overnights or full 24 days, but do occasionally see them for 2-4 hour dates during the day.

Here are what I consider the pros and cons to seeing a girl outside:

1. I get to fuck in the comfort of my own room, with more space, better lighting, in a bed that some other guy hadn't fucked in 15-30 min ago. Depending on venue (hotel, Airbnb, love motel), there can be additional amenities that are positives (room service, amazing themed rooms, private pools, stripper poles, balconies to smoke at, etc.).

2. You save on the exit / saida fee (R300 at Scandallo) if you aren't taking them out right away and agree to meet up later. If are doing a short time meeting at your place, you also save on the in-house hotel fee, which can add up if you need more than 30 min to an hour (R250 per hour at Scandall). Even at 1 hour, you are saving money if you pay for the girl's Uber both ways.

In your example comparison where dinner, drinks snacks are considerations. It would seem to imply that it's going to be at least 24-hour date. So to do that in-house, that's a hefty in-house hotel bill, where they charge by the hour. The food, whether eating in the restaurant before going to the room or doing room service from their restaurant isn't cheap either.

3. As for transportation, Uber is super cheap in Brazil. Not all girls ask for Uber fee. Some ask for both ways, some just for return, and some none at all. And she is wasting time to travel to you and back home. She is also spending additional time getting ready JUST FOR YOU! She could be spending upwards or 2-3 hours extra time on top of your "fun time" just to see you! Finally, you get the convenience of the girl coming to you so YOU save time!

A lot of these benefits might not be useful for you or other guys. One of my friends would find very little value in almost all of the above.

He usually only does 30 min sessions and only do 1-hour sessions if it's the minimum time. He doesn't care much about socializing with the girl or chatting them up. He doesn't care much for foreplay or fooling around before. He doesn't care about taking a girl out for a meal. He doesn't care about taking a girl out to a dance club, swing club, or have her be his tour guide around town. You can't do any of the above "in-house". He just want a convenient fast fuck and then to get back to the boys to hang and drink until he wants another.

There are lots of other benefits not tied to economics of seeing a girl outside of the boate.

1) They usually are in a more relaxed mood, especially if you are staying in a nice hotel / Airbnb, such as a hotel suite or a penthouse Airbnb. Some love hotels are also amazing in this way. You are also their first and possible only client of the day depending on the time and duration of meeting so you aren't getting sloppy seconds or thirds for the day. If it's an overnight or full day date, they aren't stressed about trying to make whatever their daily quota is and can just relax with you. It's also easier for them (and you too) to pretend it's just a GF or friend with benefits you are hanging out with.

2) As you control the venue, there is less chance of a scam. They can't cry to the club that you broke the agreement and have the club security force you to pay, etc. There is no way hotel security would take her side, especially if you are a frequent loyal customer.

I had one girl try that with me by insisting I pay her first. I told her I don't do that she can leave if that's her rule. She said I wasted her evening and that if I didn't pay her full overnight full rate, she'would call hotel security and the police. I called her bluff and picked up the phone and told her to hit 0 for reception. She quickly tried to take that back and salvage the date by first asking if I can pay half now and the rest later. I still refused and she finally said she would be okay with me paying after, but my mood was gone by then so told her to just leave and I will pay her for her time for dinner and at the club based on a prorated amount for our overnight date. She had been doing a lot of other drama queen BS before us going back to the hotel so this was the last straw for me. Pulling the security and police card.

She was among the hottest girl at Scandallo with some English skills so very popular. She also can be quite charming and elegant when she wants to be. She probably gets away with a lot of shit due to her beauty, but I was at my limit with her. Her name is Maria, although there are other Maria's at Scandallo. She looks like a hot sexy Tiffany Amber Thiessen with a great smile, dimples and a rocking body. I don't mind saying her name as she ended up being one of the few bad experiences I had in Brazil. A shame she was also top 3 or 5 in looks too. She might be a good in-house girl and it's always YMMV in this game. I did test drive her in-house first due to her very high rate and she performed well there.

3) You get to fuck at the venue and environment you choose. You get to fuck in a cleaner room, a room where a stranger hasn't fucked in just earlier. You might have a nicer, bigger, higher, more study bed, with more pillows and better linens. You might have a nice suite with a tub, jacuzzi or big rainfall shower to fool around and even fuck in.

I had a room in Lush with its own private pool, private tanning area and stripper pole. We started with her dancing on the pole, then some lap dances, then fooled around in the pool, then relaxing on lounge chairs smoking a joint she rolled, and then fucked there under the retractable ceiling. We then fucked in the big super large comfortable bed with disco lights providing ambiance. And then fucked again under the rainfall shower.

Another time, I was in a big hotel suite with a balcony, full kitchen, living room, a jacuzzi and the largest rainfall shower I've ever seen in a hotel, all with a view of the bridge they call the Postcard of Sao Paulo. Suffice to say, we fucked all over the suite, from the balcony outside to the living room sofa to the dining room table, with her up against the floor to ceiling windows, in the jacuzzi, the humongous shower. The most boring place we did it was on the bed!

4) You have more control over the time and duration of your meeting, so you can schedule a meeting right after work, during lunch or before / after meeting friends for dinner. I've had friends had girls come over when they were working for a Zoom call BJ fetish they wanted to satisfy. I am too chicken shit to do that, but it's on my bucket list too!

5) You get more time to develop chemistry and click and for her to be comfortable and for you to make your moves. It also gives more time to put the Japanese dating technique that Steve 9696 refers to in the SA thread. This can yield substantially better service from the girl as she feels she is with a new BF. I've had a girl who my friend saw previously and said was super dry, but was super wet for me. I've had BBFS from a girl who didn't do BBBJ to a friend on a previous visit. I've had girls who offer anal when she doesn't generally offer it to others, I've had girls who provided above average service in house turning into a tigeress in bed on our outcall pernoite date. You just get more time to get your game on.

The only benefits I see about doing it in-house is if you want the following:

1) Convenience of doing it then and there.

2) Wanting to just do a test drive of a girl before considering seeing her outside.

3) You want the option of going back down to chill with friends or by yourself and get a 2nd girl. Or a 3rd girl later.

4) You want to charge the girl's "donation'present'value" on your credit card, as the boate can do that for you with a 10% markup.

5) You don't like having a girl in your room or sleep in your bed or fuck in the bed you sleep in.

6) You don't want to take the time to "ho-proof" your room.

7) You want to be more discrete, as it can be easier for her to find out your idenity. As some hotels leave welcome gifts with your name or the hotel staff might address you by name, etc. But the reverse can be true as the boate can give up your info. Too. If you make an arrangement for a meeting outside of the club and you take precautions, you get the best of both in terms of discretion.

8) You are staying in a hotel with non-hobbying friends, family or colleagues and don't want them to see you with the girl.

9) You are shy and concerned about the awkwardness of potentially having to register the girl as your "guest". But that's a positive for me, as she knows her identity is recorded so she will be on her best behavior and won't try to drug you and steal your shit. But that's mostly for Colombia, as it's not really a thing in Brazil.

10) You are staying in an Airbnb or hotel that isn't girl friendly, but Sao Paolo hotels are like 99% girl friendly. Can't comment much on Airbnb, but for hotels, you won't have issues as long as your reservation is for 2+ guests and you guys aren't coming back wasted, causing a scene and she is dressed a super skank.

I've personally found the following Sao Paolo hotels to be girl friendly: Fasano (both), Emiliano, Tivoli, Rosewood, Hotel Unique, Renaissance, JW Marriott, Grand Hyatt. My friends have said the following are also girl friendly: Hilton, Sheraton, Pullman, Grand Mecure, Bourbon.

For me, the positives of an outcall outweighs in-house by a mile. But that's based on my hobbying style. You could be like my friend who just want the convenience of quick session then and there. Even then you are paying more than vs. An outcall.

I do find that for extended dates, the price drops a lot. If a girl wants ask for R1,000 for an hour, she would do R1,200-1,500 for 2-4 hours. And R1,500 to R2,000 for overnight or even full 24-hours. And they will even give you additional discount if you do multiple days. Like R3,500 for a full 2 day weekend or R5,000 for 3 days. I've never tried to see a girl for more than 3 days so no experience there.

That is general Brazilian hooker math. The smart ones know that's probably what they will make at most anyway as they aren't going to be pulling clients hour after hour, and they get to have a more relaxing day working. The smart ones also know you are paying for the meals (and maybe taking them to fancy restaurants they normally don't get to experience) and taking them out around town and showing them a good time. One of their "gifts" you are also giving them is the experiences with you being their guide to a world or scene they are not normally accustomed or have access to.

Unless you are taking them to McDonald's and mad fucking them every 2 hours for 2+ hours marathon sessions at a time! Although, there are nymphomaniac girls that might want the latter. I've met a few including one from 3 nights ago in Rio who wanted to stay in and just fuck and fuck and fuck. She was amazing got a 2nd pop out of me within 30 min of the first. When she tried to get a 3rd, I had to fake it after 15 min. And I think she knew as I saw a slight disappointed expression!

For me, the positives of an outcall outweighs in-house by a mile. But that's based on my hobbying style. You could be like my friend who just want the convenience of quick session then and there. Even then you are paying more than vs. An outcall.

I do find that for extended dates, the price drops a lot. If a girl wants ask for R1,000 for an hour, she would do R1,200-1,500 for 2-4 hours. And R1,500 to R2,000 for overnight or even full 24-hours. And.

Thank you for a very interesting commentary / report. I agree 100% with you. But we all are different.

Whats up Kazeu. Its about $40 to $55 US each person. They test for all the main STDs. I will spend a month in Jardins, so its worth it since I will be getting with my GFE's. In my longer trips, when I stay I don't have the energy to hit up Scandallo everynight. LOL some nights, I just want to chill with a nice GFE and BBFSCIP with Netflix, done, and take a nap. LOL.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2902446]Great information RealShaun. What kind of tests do you usually get and how much does it cost at these clinics?[/QUOTE]

Your right. Depends how your feeling that night. If I do a viagra, then she is getting the full pipe for at least 4 hours, so an outcall is justified. Or sometimes, I just want to test ride that thang, so an incall would be justified. Either way, its good times.

[QUOTE=Explorer69;2902649]For me, the positives of an outcall outweighs in-house by a mile. But that's based on my hobbying style. You could be like my friend who just want the convenience of quick session then and there. Even then you are paying more than vs. An outcall.

I do find that for extended dates, the price drops a lot. If a girl wants ask for R1,000 for an hour, she would do R1,200-1,500 for 2-4 hours. And R1,500 to R2,000 for overnight or even full 24-hours. And.

Thank you for a very interesting commentary / report. I agree 100% with you. But we all are different.[/QUOTE]

Hey gents,

Anyone can rec some good love motels in Moema, Campo Belo or its surrounding areas (near metro stations). I am not looking for anything fancy, just clean and comfortable. Thanks.

Does anyone know how a girl splits fee with the house? Say it cost 200 R an hour, how much the house keeps and how much she takes home?

[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2902637]I do find that for extended dates, the price drops a lot. If a girl wants ask for R1,000 for an hour, she would do R1,200-1,500 for 2-4 hours. And R1,500 to R2,000 for overnight or even full 24-hours. And they will even give you additional discount if you do multiple days. Like R3,500 for a full 2 day weekend or R5,000 for 3 days. I've never tried to see a girl for more than 3 days so no experience there.

That is general Brazilian hooker math. The smart ones know that's probably what they will make at most anyway as they aren't going to be pulling clients hour after hour, and they get to have a more relaxing day working. The smart ones also know you are paying for the meals (and maybe taking them to fancy restaurants they normally don't get to experience) and taking them out around town and showing them a good time. One of their "gifts" you are also giving them is the experiences with you being their guide to a world or scene they are not normally accustomed or have access to.

Unless you are taking them to McDonald's and mad fucking them every 2 hours for 2+ hours marathon sessions at a time! Although, there are nymphomaniac girls that might want the latter. I've met a few including one from 3 nights ago in Rio who wanted to stay in and just fuck and fuck and fuck. She was amazing got a 2nd pop out of me within 30 min of the first. When she tried to get a 3rd, I had to fake it after 15 min. And I think she knew as I saw a slight disappointed expression![/QUOTE]I'm with you on hotel versus club. In regard to the pricing model, my goal would be a couple hours, multiple fucks. I assume she is giving you the tiered pricing upfront before you tell her how many hours you want. In Asia I would typically go one hour then ask her to stay and tell her what I'd give for another hour or two after we fucked for the first time (otherwise you just get response of double for two hours etc. If ask upfront). At that point she sees I've complemented and treated her well; and was more than willing to stay at much reduced rate.

Outside the boates, any scam free escort services or boards recommended for SP? Most of the threads here tout SP Love, but the girls look heavily photoshopped. Has anyone used PhotoAccomphantes verified profiles only with any luck in SP? These internet sites aren't my first or even second choices but it's good to have reasonably reliable backup.

[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2902637]The only way to avoid the take out / saida fee is if the girl is finished with her shift and meets you after. She can either meet you at your hotel, your Airbnb or a love motel. I had one girl meet me around the corner from Scandallo! She only worked there for 1 week and hated them making extra money that she felt they didn't deserve. And she was a smart cookie, as I ended up giving her more than our agreement, as I saved on Saida fee.[/QUOTE]SNY,

Thanks for the detailed and very informative reply. I appreciate your knowledge and perspective. I agree with you on outcall, to me it far exceeded in-house experiences. In-house experiences to me always seem rushed.

Avenida Bandeirantes sections near Moema and Campo Belo are pretty much lined with them.

[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2902914]Hey gents,

Anyone can rec some good love motels in Moema, Campo Belo or its surrounding areas (near metro stations). I am not looking for anything fancy, just clean and comfortable. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

I made it down to SL last week for work. Had several dates lined up from online and others. Every single one of them flaked.

2 said they would be there that week and then last minute was leaving town.

1 disappears for 2 days and said her phone died. Then on Wed begged to see me and last minute says she has a family emergency and bails last minute and then keeps texting me Thursday but you flake twice you are out. Too many fish to deal with that BS.

1 set to meet at 5:30 pm Sunday then flaked saying she is stuck in traffic for 2 hrs.

I went to Yankin to have a pre-meeting warm up.

Saw a tiny gorgeous brunette as soon as I walk in. I love spinners and she fit the bill. Looked 20 or something but someone already went upstairs with her.

Did the line up. Nothing good. Waited around. Another super skinny spinner named Kamila says Hi. She is tatted up like a wannabe gangster. Buck teeth and but-her-face but killer body. Went in for a half. She was submissive and did what was asked. She didn't seem like she enjoys this job, though. Great body, though. She did BBBJ to get started. Not the best technique. Flipped to mish and doggy and popped in the bag. Then rested. Asked about her ink. She did them herself. Some of the art was actually really good. She wants to be a tattoo artist but needs cash. She resumed BBBJ for 10 min until the phone rings. Never got the 2nd pop.

Waited for brunette and she comes to the front desk all packed up and ready to leave. Nobody else really got my attention. Well, shit. Time to leave. Figured I would go grab a bite and head over for my 5:30. At the hotel, 5:30 says she will be 2 hrs. Fuck that. But all the clinicas are now dying down and Casarao don't open until 10. So I called Natty Sininho and she shoots over. She is on IG and X and has a lot of social media shit out there. Pretty hot girl. Are $800.

Shows up and smaller than I thought she would be. Speaks pretty good English so no translate app needed. Nice. Kisses up the elevator. She loves the room. It's the Renaissance. What's not to love? She hops on the bed and we start making out. She pops up and asks to help with her shoes and top. I have her naked. Dive in for DATY. She squirms and moans and was sweet. Work my way up and make out some more. She is chewing gum so DFK tastes really good. LOL. She flips me on my back and starts a BBBJ. Maybe top 5 I have ever had. Good attention to the boys and licking / sucking while stroking with her hand. DT, gagged a few times, had me grab her head and face fuck her. Had my toes curling for a bit. Cover goes on. Start mush on the bed. Knees on my chest. Flip. She hops on CG. Leans in for DFK. Leans back. Spins while I am still inside. RCG. Fast, slow, grind, fast. She comes. I feel the warmth. She keeps going. Leans back. I am in a corner room so nice view. She goes over to the window and I follow. Standing doggie looking out the window. More doggie edge of the bed. Her ass is exactly like her vids. Hard as a rock and hot as hell. I finish in the bag.

She asks what I want next. Really aiming to please. Asks if I want a massage. After 16 hrs of travel fuck yea. She gets lotion and she actually gives a really good massage for such a tiny little lady. I am a pretty muscular guy so it's always hard to give me massages. After a good run she flips and and starts another BBBJ. I don't usually finish with blowjobs and certainly not the 2nd pop. But fuck she did a bit of everything and like I said. Maybe top 5 BJ I have ever had. She got me to pop. We lay there a few minutes and she was out. Says to call her whenever I need some stress relief.

Rest of the week was a miss. Work turned out to be late nights and early mornings and I didn't feel like hitting Scan or Casarao since I had to be up at 6. Was an incredible looking skinny brunette in the lobby on Sunday when I went to let Natty up but kicked myself for not getting her number. Would have overpaid for the convenience but the other girls working the hotel that week in the lobby weren't my type so nothing.

Plan on returning for work in August and probably won't do Sunday but rather stay for the weekend and have fun then.

Obviously the girls shower before the session and I see them cleaning their puta. But I see no brushing teeth or mouth wash. I see lots of dudes DFK in clinica and I can't make myself do that without the thought that someone just had their cock in this mouth bugging the shit out of me. Do the girls ever go clean their mouths out between sessions?

[QUOTE=LvHobby;2903509]Obviously the girls shower before the session and I see them cleaning their puta. But I see no brushing teeth or mouth wash. I see lots of dudes DFK in clinica and I can't make myself do that without the thought that someone just had their cock in this mouth bugging the shit out of me. Do the girls ever go clean their mouths out between sessions?[/QUOTE]Didn't read your whole post. I think you went to the cheaper places. The slightly higher price places like the clinicas in Moema have mouth wash. Scandallo men's room has mouth wash and stuff. It really depends on the girls.

[QUOTE=LvHobby;2903509]Obviously the girls shower before the session and I see them cleaning their puta. But I see no brushing teeth or mouth wash. I see lots of dudes DFK in clinica and I can't make myself do that without the thought that someone just had their cock in this mouth bugging the shit out of me. Do the girls ever go clean their mouths out between sessions?[/QUOTE]As Nounce said, most clinicas have mouth wash and I make sure the girl uses it. However, I always bring a small bottle of mouth wash with me, just in case there isn't any in the room, and give some for the girl to use.

Kissing is a big thing in Brazilian hobby culture. The most popular local guide includes a yes / no value for kissing for in every girl's review. In room mouthwash, toothbrushes, and hair combs are, as someone else mentioned, provided in the pricier places. In downmarket places, the girls have their own products. So pucker up and slip those tongues in. I'm a bit of a weirdo about this because my kissing interest is more than satisfied by getting pecks on the cheeks during the lineup presentations. A good solid BJ is all I need to get the session going.

[QUOTE=LvHobby;2903509]Obviously the girls shower before the session and I see them cleaning their puta. But I see no brushing teeth or mouth wash. I see lots of dudes DFK in clinica and I can't make myself do that without the thought that someone just had their cock in this mouth bugging the shit out of me. Do the girls ever go clean their mouths out between sessions?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2902232]How does what work exactly? Will answer, hopefully my assumptions are correct that you are asking how do I get her to agree to BBFS and BBFSCIP = bareback-full-service-cum-in-pussy. Well, besides my great looks and charm LOL just kidding; First I treat her like a lady, like fine wine, then we agree to go to clinic (which I pay) for her to get tested. At the clinic or pharmacy they also provide one-day pills birth control if she is not already on BC. If you want extra caution, you can take PrEM. If all is good, tests are good, then its BBFSCIP. I do this for the ones I think I want to make my GFE's. I normally keep 2 to 3 on BBFS GFE status. Some don't agree, all good, then I just blow their back out with a condom on, then move on to the next stunner. But the one's that agree, love it, because I take them out to dinner, we go shopping, true GFE experience, and they'll BBBJ on the taxi drive to the mall, as an example. Its great when you find a good one.[/QUOTE]Where do you meet these girls, are they girls from Scandello or Casarao or SA? Most of the pros I met in SP don't agree to BBFS. What success rate do you have with that, 50%?

Hello To All.

Wanted to use Seeking Arrangement prior to a trip for pre-planning but wanted to find out from the experiences of the experts on this board:

Primarily --1. Do I need to sign-up and pay -up for the SA? Or can I use the free version of SA and still get the information needed from the prospects?

2. Any lessons learned from the group that they can share?

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Krilimag;2904064]Hello To All.

Wanted to use Seeking Arrangement prior to a trip for pre-planning but wanted to find out from the experiences of the experts on this board:

Primarily --1. Do I need to sign-up and pay -up for the SA? Or can I use the free version of SA and still get the information needed from the prospects?

2. Any lessons learned from the group that they can share?

Thank you.[/QUOTE]SA is a pay site and it's not inexpensive. You may want to set up free account and then scan girls in whatever cities you'll be in. Key is to look at last login date of girls. Problem is SA keeps girls profiles in site that are old, meaning they haven't even used the site in a while. Depending on where you go SA is either useful or useless. I plan trip to Rio and SP in Sept and looked at profiles couple months ago. I saw very few recently active in RIO. Did not check SP. SA used to be great couple years ago. But now many girls on site think you'll pay them for dinner and conversation. They now ask "what are you looking for"? Kidding me? WTF. If I want to have a conversation only I'll talk to my family or one of my buddies, or even a homeless person in Philly. Haha.

DJ I don't keep track on the % but it usually depends on the connection I have with the girl. I then propose that I would like to spend more time with them, GFE, and normally they agree. The one's that don't agree, its OK, it saves me time, and I move onto another.

[QUOTE=DjGeorge;2903828]Where do you meet these girls, are they girls from Scandello or Casarao or SA? Most of the pros I met in SP don't agree to BBFS. What success rate do you have with that, 50%?[/QUOTE]

Lv. This is a great post. Many times I see newbies all caught up in trying to schedule their day and loose time. But your day, you just kept it moving. I do the same, I will have 5 to 10 on my dial and will schedule all around the same time. Whoever shows up first gets with Big Daddy. And I have let others wait in the lobby for me. One time, even came down from a session, and had two waiting in lobby, we had small bites, I told them I want to do a three some, they were not with it, since they didn't know each other, and I just ended up picking the one that looked best to me at the moment. I say at the moment, because the #2 could of got the big dick too, but since I just finished with a big booty babe, I wanted a slender spinner with a beautiful face, so I went with #1.

[QUOTE=LvHobby;2903507]I made it down to SL last week for work. Had several dates lined up from online and others. Every single one of them flaked.

2 said they would be there that week and then last minute was leaving town.

1 disappears for 2 days and said her phone died. Then on Wed begged to see me and last minute says she has a family emergency and bails last minute and then keeps texting me Thursday but you flake twice you are out. Too many fish to deal with that BS.

1 set to meet at 5:30 pm Sunday then flaked saying she is stuck in traffic for 2 hrs.

I went to Yankin to have a pre-meeting warm up.

Saw a tiny gorgeous brunette as soon as I walk in. I love spinners and she fit the bill. Looked 20 or something but someone already went upstairs with her.

Did the line up. Nothing good. Waited around. Another super skinny spinner named Kamila says Hi. She is tatted up like a wannabe gangster. Buck teeth and but-her-face but killer body. Went in for a half. She was submissive and did what was asked. She didn't seem like she enjoys this job, though. Great body, though. She did BBBJ to get started. Not the best technique. Flipped to mish and doggy and popped in the bag. Then rested. Asked about her ink. She did them herself. Some of the art was actually really good. She wants to be a tattoo artist but needs cash. She resumed BBBJ for 10 min until the phone rings. Never got the 2nd pop.
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[QUOTE=Krilimag;2904064]Hello To All.

Wanted to use Seeking Arrangement prior to a trip for pre-planning but wanted to find out from the experiences of the experts on this board:

Primarily --1. Do I need to sign-up and pay -up for the SA? Or can I use the free version of SA and still get the information needed from the prospects?

2. Any lessons learned from the group that they can share?

Thank you.[/QUOTE]As CC says free to browse. Browse all you like. Girls who are online have a green dot. I don't bother trying to talk to anyone not online. You have to join at $100 ish amonth to contact girls. My advice is try not to treat them like hookers because the best ones are non pro or semi pro. Make a real date of it. It's a TOTALLY different experience from Termas and clinicas and Boates. If you like a real date and real connection then it's great.

I managed to score a 9 in Rio and we hit it off and had a great 3 hr date in rio. Since then I've flown her to SP for a few days. And flying her to Spain soon. So you can def find gems.

I'the suggest if you browse and like what you see then just get an account for the month you are traveling. $100 is a small price ti pay to find a keeper. HMU on message if you have questions or want more tips. I've done a ton of Seeeking dates.

Steve. I never tried SA. It always seemed like its a catfish scheme on there. But your saying its legit, and text the girls, and see what's up. Definitely open to try a new experience from terma girls. I saw some girls on SA that also had a profile on ClubModel. All good. Any other tips about SA?

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2904302]As CC says free to browse. Browse all you like. Girls who are online have a green dot. I don't bother trying to talk to anyone not online. You have to join at $100 ish amonth to contact girls. My advice is try not to treat them like hookers because the best ones are non pro or semi pro. Make a real date of it. It's a TOTALLY different experience from Termas and clinicas and Boates. If you like a real date and real connection then it's great.

I managed to score a 9 in Rio and we hit it off and had a great 3 hr date in rio. Since then I've flown her to SP for a few days. And flying her to Spain soon. So you can def find gems.

I'the suggest if you browse and like what you see then just get an account for the month you are traveling. $100 is a small price ti pay to find a keeper. HMU on message if you have questions or want more tips. I've done a ton of Seeeking dates.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2904358]Steve. I never tried SA. It always seemed like its a catfish scheme on there. But your saying its legit, and text the girls, and see what's up. Definitely open to try a new experience from terma girls. I saw some girls on SA that also had a profile on ClubModel. All good. Any other tips about SA?[/QUOTE]Yeah Seeking can be a huge amount of work but with a great payoff. I describe as sorting thru a steaming pile of bullshit to find the diamond somewhere therein. But diamonds do exist. I've had amazing complete (ie have sex) Seeking dates in US, London, Spain, Brazil. Almost all have been awesome but a lot of work to find the right girl. The US is pretty much 10 X harder. International Seeking much easier.

I posted a guide earlier this month in the Seeking thread.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4144-Seeking-Arrangements&p=2900446&posted=1[/URL]

Two things. In Brazil you needn't be quite so cagey. Brazilian girls are much more open about sex as you know. Even tho I say to find girls s few weeks in advance and test chemistry I have had very excellent short term results. Just like "Hey I'm going out to a nice dinner. Join me". I've scored some real gems last minute this way.

Ps in the US there is a growing epidemic of girls who will engage u quite seriously and then after awesome chat say they have a flat tire or some nonsense and can u send $50. Sooooo fucking annoying. Happens way more often than it used to.

But don't you have to give your CC?

An anon fellow ISG member cited that as a reason not to use SA.

I myself am considering using SA because in fairness, for the reasons you cite, I have heard from other ISG members that it is good. One ISG bro who comes every year to rio uses it for his best girls along with tier 1 termas.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2904375]Yeah Seeking can be a huge amount of work but with a great payoff. I describe as sorting thru a steaming pile of bullshit to find the diamond somewhere therein. But diamonds do exist. I've had amazing complete (ie have sex) Seeking dates in US, London, Spain, Brazil. Almost all have been awesome but a lot of work to find the right girl. The US is pretty much 10 X harder. International Seeking much easier.

I posted a guide earlier this month in the Seeking thread.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4144-Seeking-Arrangements&p=2900446&posted=1[/URL]

Two things. In Brazil you needn't be quite so cagey. Brazilian girls are much more open about sex as you know. Even tho I say to find girls s few weeks in advance and test chemistry I have had very excellent short term results. Just like "Hey I'm going out to a nice dinner. Join me". I've scored some real gems last minute this way.

Ps in the US there is a growing epidemic of girls who will engage u quite seriously and then after awesome chat say they have a flat tire or some nonsense and can u send $50. Sooooo fucking annoying. Happens way more often than it used to.[/QUOTE]

Saw this lady recently. [URL]https://www.superacompanhantes.com/acompanhante/683464980/jaqueline-silva[/URL] . Very tight body, one of the best booties out there. Only downside for me was fake titties.

Anyway, very easy to schedule with, professional and classy. Full GFE performer, including greek for those into such. Charges 700/ h to come to you.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2904381]But don't you have to give your CC?

I myself am considering using SA because in fairness, for the reasons you cite, I have heard from other ISG members that it is good. One ISG bro who comes every year to rio uses it for his best girls along with tier 1 termas.[/QUOTE]CC: I use prepaid to avoid issues.

For you VB, I think you should check out Meu Patrocinio. Way more profiles in Brazil / Rio & cheaper membership.

F.

[QUOTE=Kib123;2904399]Saw this lady recently. [URL]https://www.superacompanhantes.com/acompanhante/683464980/jaqueline-silva[/URL] . Very tight body, one of the best booties out there. Only downside for me was fake titties.

Anyway, very easy to schedule with, professional and classy. Full GFE performer, including greek for those into such. Charges 700/ h to come to you.[/QUOTE]First time seeing this site. Quite a few goodies. Anyone else use this?

[QUOTE=Kib123;2904399]Saw this lady recently. [URL]https://www.superacompanhantes.com/acompanhante/683464980/jaqueline-silva[/URL] . Very tight body, one of the best booties out there. Only downside for me was fake titties.

Anyway, very easy to schedule with, professional and classy. Full GFE performer, including greek for those into such. Charges 700/ h to come to you.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Does she speak English?

Alright fellows, I have been perusing through a lot of discussions, sites, etc. For the past several months and as I get closer to my trip I am asking for your input as I complete my stops, specifically with clinicas.

Below is my line up that I think will be within close proximity to Moema. They are not in particular order but need your assistance to fill in question marks?

Please correct also if I am greatly mistaken on the information I have.

1. Lotus Lounge.

Type: Ipad system.

Area: Jardins.

Approximate Price: 700-800 reales.

Does it have a bar: Yes.

2. Abobora.

Type: Actual line-up.

Area: Concelao.

Approximate Price: 400 reales.

Does it have a bar: Yes.

Website: ?

3. Palms.

Type: Ipad system.

Area: Brooklin.

Approximate Price: 800-900 reales.

Does it have a bar: No.

4. Sharon Premium.

Type: Ipad system.

Area: Moema.

Approximate Price: 650 reales.

Does it have a bar: Yes.

5. Prime.

Type: Ipad system.

Area: Brooklin.

Approximate Price: 600 reales.

Does it have a bar: No.

Website: ?

6. Miruna.

Type: Line up.

Area: Villa Mariana.

Approximate Price: 600 reales.

Does it have a bar: No.

Website: ?

7. Baronesas.

Type: Ipad system.

Area: Congonhas.

Approximate Price: 700-800 reales.

Does it have a bar: Yes.

8. Yankin.

Type: Line up.

Area: Near Moema.

Approximate Price: 400 reales.

Does it have a bar: No.

Website: ?

9. Tangara.

Type: Line up.

Area: Ibirapuera Park area.

Approximate Price: 450 reales.

Does it have a bar: No.

Website: ?

10. Oro.

Type: Ipad system.

Area: ?

Approximate Price: ? Reales.

Does it have a bar: ?

Website: ?

11. Taj Mahal.

Type: Line up.

Area: Villa Mariana.

Approximate Price: 600 reales.

Does it have a bar: No.

Website: ?

Steve, nice link on the post. I read through it, gave me good insights. I will give SA a try next time I am in SP in a couple of weeks. Your right though, maybe my US experience with SA has tarnished what I think SA is. In the US there is waaaayyy to much of what you said, I'm not sending any girls money for flat tires whom I never met LOL Also, in SP I like to get to the point like a cave man, "Me, here, now, you, me, now" LOL so I'm a switch it up a bit, and try SA. Who knows, I may end up loving it. LOL. Especially because I love BBFSCIP.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2904375]Yeah Seeking can be a huge amount of work but with a great payoff. I describe as sorting thru a steaming pile of bullshit to find the diamond somewhere therein. But diamonds do exist. I've had amazing complete (ie have sex) Seeking dates in US, London, Spain, Brazil. Almost all have been awesome but a lot of work to find the right girl. The US is pretty much 10 X harder. International Seeking much easier.

I posted a guide earlier this month in the Seeking thread.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4144-Seeking-Arrangements&p=2900446&posted=1[/URL]

Two things. In Brazil you needn't be quite so cagey. Brazilian girls are much more open about sex as you know. Even tho I say to find girls s few weeks in advance and test chemistry I have had very excellent short term results. Just like "Hey I'm going out to a nice dinner. Join me". I've scored some real gems last minute this way.

Ps in the US there is a growing epidemic of girls who will engage u quite seriously and then after awesome chat say they have a flat tire or some nonsense and can u send $50. Sooooo fucking annoying. Happens way more often than it used to.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Krilimag;2904573]Alright fellows, ...[/QUOTE]It's good that you did research, but you did a pretty lousy job or you messed up with copy and past. Some corrections below.

Prime, Miruna both have lineup and are in Moema. The cost is less than half of you posted. I haven't been there for a while so I don't have the latest price.

Yankin and Tangara both are in Villa Mariana. It's around 190/150. Both have bar.

These information are not the most critical because you can find out easily once you arrive.

The lineup at Yankin and Tangara are less organized. They are more like between a clinica and boate. You need to stick around for a while to learn or wait to have more choices. It's the process and the detail that is more valuable. Same for the high end clinica but because we all have paid a hefty price to learn so we are not sharing.. LOL.

You can use the local website gpguia to find more information

I strongly advice to walk away at a high-end clinica if you can't talk to the girl at all. It's a pure gamble because what's on the tablet may not be honest so the odds is against you. Go to a boate even if you have to pay more because at least you are more likely to get what you pay for.

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2904606]... Also, in SP I like to get to the point like a cave man, "Me, here, now, you, me, now" LOL so I'm a switch it up a bit, and try SA. Who knows, I may end up loving it. LOL. Especially because I love BBFSCIP.[/QUOTE]Direct to a point can be good. It helps you figure out who are the pros which is not a bad thing. Otherwise, you will find out at the last minute after hours of chatting. Some pros will ask for photos because they want to pretend to be non-pros so you will waste your time to chat with them, it the reaction to the photos that can help you decide who is on the other side. If the girl has an honest reaction, then she most likely is not a pro.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2904637]It's good that you did research, but you did a pretty lousy job or you messed up with copy and past. Some corrections below.

Prime, Miruna both have lineup and are in Moema. The cost is less than half of you posted. I haven't been there for a while so I don't have the latest price.

Yankin and Tangara both are in Villa Mariana. It's around 190/150. Both have bar.

These information are not the most critical because you can find out easily once you arrive.

The lineup at Yankin and Tangara are less organized. They are more like between a clinica and boate. You need to stick around for a while to learn or wait to have more choices. It's the process and the detail that is more valuable. Same for the high end clinica but because we all have paid a hefty price to learn so we are not sharing.. LOL.

You can use the local website gpguia to find more information

I strongly advice to walk away at a high-end clinica if you can't talk to the girl at all. It's a pure gamble because what's on the tablet may not be honest so the odds is against you. Go to a boate even if you have to pay more because at least you are more likely to get what you pay for.[/QUOTE]Good original post for info and good follow up post for clarification. Thank to both.

Hi folks, I'm talking to a lovely paulista on SA and it seems she's on a trip.

Can someone tell me where was this pic taken?

[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2904848]Hi folks, I'm talking to a lovely paulista on SA and it seems she's on a trip.

Can someone tell me where was this pic taken?[/QUOTE]She's fucking around in Oslo, Norway.

Great, thanks! Yes I was thinking she's somewhere in scandinavia.

She's a talented dancer, so I suppose she's hanging her ass in some of those shiny pole dance tubes.

Is the club scene interesting there ?

[QUOTE=Sperto;2904909]She's fucking around in Oslo, Norway.[/QUOTE]

What is the "deadline" time you must arrive by to only pay the entry fee which is fully consumable? I forget if its 6 or 7 pm.

[QUOTE=JohnJones22;2905076]What is the "deadline" time you must arrive by to only pay the entry fee which is fully consumable? I forget if its 6 or 7 pm.[/QUOTE]7, or a little pass 7 is ok. Check with them to decide if you are a little late.

I'm noticing extraordinary amount of the girls on sites I'm checking out have tattoos in Rio and SP. Way more than other places I'm accustomed to in Asia and Europe.

I'm not opposed to some tatts (I have a couple) or an occasional heavy tatted girl, but will get old if every girl looks like an inner city gang member.

Is it just the escort hooker sites? Are the boates and termas girls all tatted out?

[QUOTE=Shamester;2904555]Thanks. Does she speak English?[/QUOTE]Unfortunately not.

[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2905556]I'm noticing extraordinary amount of the girls on sites I'm checking out have tattoos in Rio and SP. Way more than other places I'm accustomed to in Asia and Europe.

I'm not opposed to some tatts (I have a couple) or an occasional heavy tatted girl, but will get old if every girl looks like an inner city gang member.

Is it just the escort hooker sites? Are the boates and termas girls all tatted out?[/QUOTE]Tattoos are nothing in Brazil compared to Thailand. In Thailand even charwomen and housewives are covered in tattoos.

Could someone share the ATM withdrawal limits for Santander and Braddesco? Thanks gents.

[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2905556]I'm noticing extraordinary amount of the girls on sites I'm checking out have tattoos in Rio and SP. Way more than other places I'm accustomed to in Asia and Europe.

I'm not opposed to some tatts (I have a couple) or an occasional heavy tatted girl, but will get old if every girl looks like an inner city gang member.

Is it just the escort hooker sites? Are the boates and termas girls all tatted out?[/QUOTE]I don't have any experience with civvy girls but can def say virtually all club girls have tattoos. There is a rare exception here and there but let's say 90+%. That said it's not like they all have backplates or sleeves. Just pretty much every girl has tattoos. I've come to find it a rather nice decoration and it can be attractive. I don't think you will find urself put off by it.

Tattoos are a thing in Colombia too.

[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2905556]I'm noticing extraordinary amount of the girls on sites I'm checking out have tattoos in Rio and SP. Way more than other places I'm accustomed to in Asia and Europe.

I'm not opposed to some tatts (I have a couple) or an occasional heavy tatted girl, but will get old if every girl looks like an inner city gang member.

Is it just the escort hooker sites? Are the boates and termas girls all tatted out?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2905692]Could someone share the ATM withdrawal limits for Santander and Braddesco? Thanks gents.[/QUOTE]I'm still doing recon before my trip to SP. I am almost caught up with RTFF and here is what I know about your question.

You can withdraw 2500 from most Bradesco ATM's. Santander max withdrawal is 3000. If I am wrong, one of the vets on here can chime in. I do recall something about limits on Sundays but not sure on that.

I have created notes on places to stay, eat, prices of clinicas, boates, etc. It's all here if one is willing to go back and read.

Uh, no. Never met a single girl from the north west with a tattoo you're assuming Issan is Thailand and that's a very narrow minded assumption.

[QUOTE=XXL;2905628]Tattoos are nothing in Brazil compared to Thailand. In Thailand even charwomen and housewives are covered in tattoos.[/QUOTE]

Long time ago I don't withdraw cash at night (very bad idea in some areas), but I'm sure there was a night time lower limit in order to avoid common crime.

You should check those limits, but this is what I found.

[QUOTE=Septimius;2905779]I'm still doing recon before my trip to SP. I am almost caught up with RTFF and here is what I know about your question.

You can withdraw 2500 from most Bradesco ATM's. Santander max withdrawal is 3000. If I am wrong, one of the vets on here can chime in. I do recall something about limits on Sundays but not sure on that.

I have created notes on places to stay, eat, prices of clinicas, boates, etc. It's all here if one is willing to go back and read.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2905556]I'm noticing extraordinary amount of the girls on sites I'm checking out have tattoos in Rio and SP. Way more than other places I'm accustomed to in Asia and Europe.

I'm not opposed to some tatts (I have a couple) or an occasional heavy tatted girl, but will get old if every girl looks like an inner city gang member.

Is it just the escort hooker sites? Are the boates and termas girls all tatted out?[/QUOTE]I think BKK and Pattaya hold that honor.

They are all inked up and its deeply cultural.

I got lucky with this one. It was my birthday and near closing time and she charged me 500 are.

I got lucky with this one. It was my birthday and it was near closing time and she charged me 500 R.

Thats true. Many years ago they implemented curfew hours as well due to the high crime rate at the ATM locations. Especially, with drunk tourists who have no idea. It was an epidemic of crimes in SP and Rio. I normally, or even never, go to ATMs. I hedge my cost, by buying currency when the conversion rates hit certain levels. I get alerts, then I buy currency at that time. So when its time to travel, I'm not at the mercy of the currency exchange if it happens to be at a lower spot market. I place everything on credit card, and use the cash on hand, accordingly, as ya'll know. .

[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2905819]Long time ago I don't withdraw cash at night (very bad idea in some areas), but I'm sure there was a night time lower limit in order to avoid common crime.

You should check those limits, but this is what I found.[/QUOTE]

Funny you mention that, because I was wondering the same thing last year and even the year before. I was thinking, either I am getting old? Or is this Tattoo thing becoming a new fad? I'm talking full on tats on some of the hottest chicks. I normally do not like tats, but if she is a 9, and the tats suite her well, not too many, then Its ALL GOOD. I'm BBFSCIP all day!! LOL.

[QUOTE=WorldJockey;2905834]I think BKK and Pattaya hold that honor.

They are all inked up and its deeply cultural.[/QUOTE]

She has a nice rack. Slender, nice booty. My man sung his own Bday song that night LOL.

[QUOTE=BlackLexus;2905913]I got lucky with this one. It was my birthday and it was near closing time and she charged me 500 R.[/QUOTE]

There are no limits. The limit is placed by your bank, and your banking relationship. Some people have accounts that can't withdraw more than $300 US others can do a lot more. If you do, have to use an ATM, please by God, do it only in the day, before 5 pm, inside the bank. Good luck.

[QUOTE=Septimius;2905779]I'm still doing recon before my trip to SP. I am almost caught up with RTFF and here is what I know about your question.

You can withdraw 2500 from most Bradesco ATM's. Santander max withdrawal is 3000. If I am wrong, one of the vets on here can chime in. I do recall something about limits on Sundays but not sure on that.

I have created notes on places to stay, eat, prices of clinicas, boates, etc. It's all here if one is willing to go back and read.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BlackLexus;2905913]I got lucky with this one. It was my birthday and it was near closing time and she charged me 500 R.[/QUOTE]Wow. I'd welcome the ink if it was attached to her. Hats off to you sir.

[QUOTE=BlackLexus;2905913]I got lucky with this one. It was my birthday and it was near closing time and she charged me 500 R.[/QUOTE]I hope you gave her a good seeing to.

[QUOTE=BlackLexus;2905909]I got lucky with this one. It was my birthday and near closing time and she charged me 500 are.[/QUOTE]Those are some nice receipts ya got there. Perfect ass.

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2906053]I normally do not like tats, but if she is a 9, and the tats suite her well, not too many, then Its ALL GOOD. I'm BBFSCIP all day!! LOL.[/QUOTE]You know what they say. When in Rome LOL.

Which one currently has the best line-up? I've been hitting Tangara which is a hit or miss. I rec you check it out in the afternoon, but it's busy and not really my liking.

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2906055][b]There are no limits. [/b] The limit is placed by your bank, and your banking relationship. Some people have accounts that can't withdraw more than $300 US others can do a lot more. [b]If you do, have to use an ATM, please by God, do it only in the day, before 5 pm, inside the bank. Good luck.[/b][/QUOTE][b][U] You should know[/U] the Daily Withdrawal Limit Policy of your Bank/Debit ATM Card Issuer[/B].

The real issue is that some banks in Brazil have a withdrawal limit that is less than your Bank/Debit ATM Card Issuer. These banks [U]may limit[/U] your withdrawals due to Holidays, Special Events, Weekends, location, time of day (mainly after 5 PM and especially late night), physical location inside bank ATM (Best) vs outside ATM (Worst, which are more prone to have ATM card readers for scammers to capture your account information in addition outside ATM machines are more prone to ATM users being subjected to criminal activity.) Also not to mention a financial crisis affecting bank limits.

So yes, the best time to go to an ATM is before 5PM preferably inside a bank that has a guard / bank employees watching the ATM. Central business district, or highly trafficked commercial areas generally have the banks that provide reasonable ATM withdrawal limit/policies.

[QUOTE=BlackLexus;2905913]I got lucky with this one. It was my birthday and it was near closing time and she charged me 500 R.[/QUOTE]Nice, especially at $R500 which is hard to get most want +$R1000, no matter what time it is in Scandallo, Happy Birthday!!

[QUOTE=BlackLexus;2905913]I got lucky with this one. It was my birthday and it was near closing time and she charged me 500 R.[/QUOTE]I think I am going to say it's my birthday for every woman I meet who I don't already know. It's universal the women go into overdrive.

Hey Perverts,

I am seeking your wisdom.

I am goin to be in Buenos Aires for a week soon and thought I would monger there using SA and thought it would be cheap but it seems like its $250+ per session sheesh.

I am looking at SP since its kinda close and I RTFF and its seems be just a little cheaper but not by much.

I have a lot of experience mongering in Colombia Peru and Mexico where I have amazing sessions bringing 1 or 2 SA girls per day to my airbnb for about $100-$150 each for many many days.

I am a high volume guy so that's why I seek lower prices LOL.

If I am in SP and want to fuck girls back at my place is there there any way I can get away with under $150 per girl using SA or getting contacts other ways?

I don't need models I just need 7+ height weight proportionate girls who are between 18-23.

If SP doesn't fit the bill maybe I should stick to the places I know but since I am down in BA I thought I would explore something in the area thanks!

What do you'll think?

[QUOTE=LivingFossil;2906965]Hey Perverts,

I am seeking your wisdom.

I am goin to be in Buenos Aires for a week soon and thought I would monger there using SA and thought it would be cheap but it seems like its $250+ per session sheesh.

I am looking at SP since its kinda close and I RTFF and its seems be just a little cheaper but not by much.

I have a lot of experience mongering in Colombia Peru and Mexico where I have amazing sessions bringing 1 or 2 SA girls per day to my airbnb for about $100-$150 each for many many days.

I am a high volume guy so that's why I seek lower prices LOL.

If I am in SP and want to fuck girls back at my place is there there any way I can get away with under $150 per girl using SA or getting contacts other ways?

I don't need models I just need 7+ height weight proportionate girls who are between 18-23.

If SP doesn't fit the bill maybe I should stick to the places I know but since I am down in BA I thought I would explore something in the area thanks!

What do you'll think?[/QUOTE]We talk a lot on here about high end venues like Scandallo because if you have the coin it's top worldwide. But you can def get quality girls in the price range you seek. I think easiest would be to do a session at a Clinica and get the girls number to do more at your hotel. Within your budget but prob at lower end clinicas (Tangara?) is ur best bet. They aren’t always lower end for girls but facilities which won’t matter after one session.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2907057]... Within your budget but prob at lower end clinicas (Tangara?) is ur best bet. ...[/QUOTE]It depends on his taste. Just based on his experience, I think if he could pick one there, Tangara is a high volume place, this girl will not be in the optimal condition at the end of the shift. I am not sure he could get all of them under 150 in SP, as his selections become smaller, the price will go higher if he does not have much time.

I am not surprised at this price now. This is not in SP or Rio

[QUOTE=Nounce;2907074]It depends on his taste. Just based on his experience, I think if he could pick one there, Tangara is a high volume place, this girl will be tired at the end of the shift. I am not sure he could get all of them under 150 in SP, as his selections become smaller, the price will go higher if he does not have much time.

I am not surprised at this price now. This is not in SP or Rio[/QUOTE]What selections are you talking about? Prices at clinicas are usually fixed. Also, I believe the original poster is saying $150 usd, I'm pretty sure there are plenty of girls he could get to come to his place for $150 usd in SP. Maybe not the scandallo girls, but girls from clinicas, sure.

[QUOTE=TheCritic;2906566]Nice, especially at $R500 which is hard to get most want +$R1000, no matter what time it is in Scandallo...![/QUOTE]I just want to add that I think only some portion of the girls can get higher price. These are most likely the ones that don't come everyday. It also depends on the look of the girls. I did a price survey that I reported after the upward price explosion. They came up to me when I was having dinner which gave me a free pass to quickly check the price. There were still at least some that you can get at 500 or below because not all of them are desirable and some of them worked there everyday will look for higher volume. You have never heard of anyone here negotiated it down to below 500. Why?

I met a girl who works as part time model who speaks more than three languages and fluent in 3 in SP this year. She has a regular job that pays her 2500 a month. It is a terrible job based on what I was told. Other girls I met in the south in cities like Florianpolis and Balnerio Cambori. They made between 1700 and 5000. The numbers of the higher income one is inflated IMO but it is still not much and her basic expenses are much higher too.

One reason I am posting this, is I think the information on ISG makes people get used to the higher price. It is something to think about. It does not impact me because I have not been to Scandallo for over a year if I remember correctly.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2907079]What selections are you talking about? Prices at clinicas are usually fixed. Also, I believe the original poster is saying $150 usd, I'm pretty sure there are plenty of girls he could get to come to his place for $150 usd in SP. Maybe not the scandallo girls, but girls from clinicas, sure.[/QUOTE]

I think you have not taken into consideration of the poster's preference. This is someone who likes SA and outcall. I doubt he would enjoy Tangara . The other point is the (hot if you find one) girl will be tired like I wrote. I frequently wrote about Tangara so I would say I have less negative bias then others who don't visit Tangara. If I am going to assume, I would assume he could find what he likes more likely from the high- end clinicas. Having said the above, he should still try and that is what I would do. I am jsut saying not to base decision on Tangara or clinicas. One has to figure out if he likes the type of girls there.

If you are someone who look at the high-end clinicas as the same as the cheaper ones, then I consider you are one of the fortunate ones because you pay much less to get the same result that others have to pay more to get.

I often said high-end clinicas is a gamble, let's say the failure rate is 1/3. Then the cost of a successful one after 3 sessions would be about 200USD on site. There maybe a beginner's luck. I had some good ones in the beginning, than a series of bad ones. Just to add to the context, I must have BBBJ. LOL. If it's ok to have CBJ, then you should ignore my post.


Also, don't automatically assume their rate based on what you pay in Clinicas. It depends on the girls. Example, if the girl goes to Scandallo to work at night, then she may ask for the night rate which will be much higher than the clinica rate, and they may give you a price by hour which would make the total cost even higher

Yes when I said $150 USD I was talking about an SA type of girl. I am not looking for a casa type girl who has high volume.

I am thinking SP might be too expensive for me. Of course I would go to Scandalo and session once but I am trying to get 10 sessions in a week at my Airbnb.

The girls I like are 130 lbs max, no plastic, 18-23, feminine some friends say they I like 7's and 8's, I am okay with that label LOL.

[QUOTE=Krilimag;2904573]Alright fellows, I have been perusing through a lot of discussions, sites, etc. For the past several months and as I get closer to my trip I am asking
11. Taj Mahal.

Type: Line up.

Area: Villa Mariana.

Approximate Price: 600 reales.

Does it have a bar: No.

Website: ?[/QUOTE]I don't believe Taj Mahal has a line up. Last time I was there a few years back, they had an iPad system. The rate was 400 BRL. I guess things have changed.

For those who have got the e-visa, what is it like? Just a PDF file with validity for 10 years?

I visited Taj Mahal on December 30th in the early afternoon right before New Years eve. Some clinicas were closed on account of the holidays and the night before I had paid a visit to Bomboa and it was almost dead. I have never seen Bomboa so empty before.

Anyway on the 30th, I whatsapped Taj first to make sure they were open and they immediately sent me photos of their available girls from which I chose an attractive, slender, and tall brunette with small breasts and I made a 1:30 pm appointment. I arrived on time at 1:25 pm and I had to wait about 5 minutes before the friendly hostess escorted me up to one of their pleasant. Well decorated rooms. Then I waited another 5 minutes or so for the girl. She looked a little different than her glossed up photos, which is to be expected, but it was the same girl, and she still looked pretty good to me. The session included a 10-minute back massage, then a HJ / ball massage from behind, and when I rolled over onto my back, she commenced to give me a good BBBJ, limited DFK (the only negative), and we engaged in covered vaginal sex in multiple positions. I must say, I enjoyed shagging this one. In missionary, our 1st position, she pretended to be a damsel in distress and once I caught on to her play act I had a very good time with her. The all inclusive price was 640 BR on the CC. WIR? Yes, but I told her next time, I wanted more kissing and she agreed.

Earlier in my trip, in mid November, I just walked into the establishment cold turkey. There was no line up, just the usual laptop photos of available girls. This is the same procedure in all the upscale SP clinicas like Sharon and Palms. I did not see any girl photos that I liked at that time, so I told the hostess I would come back later and I left. Back on the street I ordered an Uber and I took a ride over to Sharon where I found what I was looking for.

[QUOTE=LAHenry;2907421]I don't believe Taj Mahal has a line up. Last time I was there a few years back, they had an iPad system. The rate was 400 BRL. I guess things have changed.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LivingFossil;2907407]Yes when I said $150 USD I was talking about an SA type of girl. I am not looking for a casa type girl who has high volume.

I am thinking SP might be too expensive for me. Of course I would go to Scandalo and session once but I am trying to get 10 sessions in a week at my Airbnb.

The girls I like are 130 lbs max, no plastic, 18-23, feminine some friends say they I like 7's and 8's, I am okay with that label LOL.[/QUOTE]I think 750 BR for SP girls of your description is doable although it will require some flexibility on your part.

Your best bet is to take a look at MClass & Club Model escort sites. If that does not work for you, you will have to check out the boates.

Unfortunately, the top 2 boates (Scandallo & Bomboa) will cost you more that 750 BR when you add in club entry fees, drinks, and either a room charge or a take out charge. Figure the total minimum cost will be around 1400 BR, but if you click with the girl, subsequent get togethers with her at your hotel will be roughly half that amount for ST.

Casarao is your other boate alternative. You can easily pay less than 740 BR total here and there are typically so many Casarao girls in attendance after midnight, that I am sure you can find a few that can match your target.

Bon appetite. I look forward to reading your report.

[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2907506]For those who have got the e-visa, what is it like? Just a PDF file with validity for 10 years?[/QUOTE]Yes. And you have to print out two copies every time you enter Brazil. You have to keep it safe in your email box. They have again pushed the date back till April 10,2025.

[URL]https://www.gov.br/mre/pt-br/consulado-miami/information-about-visas-in-english/electronic-visitor-visa-e-visa[/URL]

It's almost as if Brazil is waiting for these countries to work out a reciprocal exemption.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2907569]Yes. And you have to print out two copies every time you enter Brazil. You have to keep it safe in your email box. They have again pushed the date back till April 10,2025.

[URL]https://www.gov.br/mre/pt-br/consulado-miami/information-about-visas-in-english/electronic-visitor-visa-e-visa[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2907617]It's almost as if Brazil is waiting for these countries to work out a reciprocal exemption.[/QUOTE]It's similar to my check-in experience. I went 3 hours earlier to check-in. I waited for a long time that it was almost too late because the airline employee kept directing people who was late to skip the line. By the time I was the second in line, the progress basically come to a halt. The women in front of me could not take it anymore and she started to scream at the airline employee. It was about half hour before the departure time by the time I got to the gate. No surprisingly the flight had been delayed indefinitely so the people who came after me can catch the flight. That's what I think anyway. LOL.

Is there a current English speaking girl working out of one of the clinicas? Yon can PM me if you don't want to share in public. I am still looking for one.

[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2907842]Is there a current English speaking girl working out of one of the clinicas? Yon can PM me if you don't want to share in public. I am still looking for one.[/QUOTE]You can go ask the receptionist / manager.

I've seen one or two of them in Abbobora talking to American guys. You can whatsapp message the clinicas and ask this information. They will have the most up to date information. It might be easier to just learn a few key Portuguese phrases like "can I fuck you up the ass?

[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2907842]Is there a current English speaking girl working out of one of the clinicas? Yon can PM me if you don't want to share in public. I am still looking for one.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LivingFossil;2907407]Yes when I said $150 USD I was talking about an SA type of girl. I am not looking for a casa type girl who has high volume.

I am thinking SP might be too expensive for me. Of course I would go to Scandalo and session once but I am trying to get 10 sessions in a week at my Airbnb.

The girls I like are 130 lbs max, no plastic, 18-23, feminine some friends say they I like 7's and 8's, I am okay with that label LOL.[/QUOTE]I found most SA girls to quote 1000 R to 1500 R an hour, but will come down to 700-800 R for 2 hours.

Seeking Arrangment girls aren't high volume? Probably I don't know what high volume really means. The clinicas pump whatsapp subscribers with promos and photos to bring in customers. Garotas regularly complain about lack of customers. I think the Vila Mariana places like Zeus, Tangara, and Yankin are among the busiest but even there the action is light on weekdays before 5. How does it work with the Seeking Arrangement girls? Do they have one date per day and stop until the money runs out?

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2908758]I found most SA girls to quote 1000 R to 1500 R an hour, but will come down to 700-800 R for 2 hours.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2908897]Seeking Arrangment girls aren't high volume? Probably I don't know what high volume really means. The clinicas pump whatsapp subscribers with promos and photos to bring in customers. Garotas regularly complain about lack of customers. I think the Vila Mariana places like Zeus, Tangara, and Yankin are among the busiest but even there the action is light on weekdays before 5. How does it work with the Seeking Arrangement girls? Do they have one date per day and stop until the money runs out?[/QUOTE]There are plenty of Seeking girls who are high volume pros. But what you look for on Seeking is the Gem. She's a girl with a real job or student. And just does Seeking on the side to score some extra cash. They are often cheaper than than the pros and waaay more girlfriendy and affectionate. These girls will be low volume.

Case in point. My Rio seeking hottie. She works in a clothing store and is having to buy some vacay from a coworker to fly to Europe w me. And she charges me next to nothing. It's the true Seeking deal where she wants to be with you and you want to help her out. She is charging waaaaay under market if she was a pro. Like I was doing 500 R a DAY last time we met up.

And a recent girl in a large US city. Girls are charging 500 in US and pros shooting even higher. Found a gem (after a dud and a meh) who is 300. She works a real job second shift at a warehouse. And she's fucking amazing. Just s real girl looking for some fun. Those are the ones you want.

Has anyone been here and if so how was the experience?

[URL]https://spalushness.com/[/URL]

Doom, I like the Moema spot better. The rooms, more girls, and its also close to other spots in the event they don't have any available that you like then you can go to other Moema spots. The other spot in A. Franco is bit more isolated, so kinda forces your hand to pick one. In A. Franco location, I was force to get an 8, so whom am I to complain LOL.

[QUOTE=DoomBringer321;2909274]Has anyone been here and if so how was the experience?

[URL]https://spalushness.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]

They don't have time to speak english when their mouth is full of BBBJ. I'm there to put in some work, not too much talking. LOL.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2908276]I've seen one or two of them in Abbobora talking to American guys. You can whatsapp message the clinicas and ask this information. They will have the most up to date information. It might be easier to just learn a few key Portuguese phrases like "can I fuck you up the ass?[/QUOTE]

Met a so called "Dentist" from SA last week. We went out. It started out pretty good, I invited her to Franco de Chao in Jardins. But then I went into my monger cave man old habits. She said she didn't get down like that. I was simply only asking to go back to my hotel and BBFSCIP not such a big request, right? At least she was cool with my crude ways. She had a cool vibe. But she said, we needed to get to know each other a bit more. So we been texting and stuff. She actually invited me to her dental location WTF!? LOL So I am going to keep working on it. LOL So far SA in SP has been much better than the typical catfishing in the US. My 2 cents.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2908897]Seeking Arrangment girls aren't high volume? Probably I don't know what high volume really means. The clinicas pump whatsapp subscribers with promos and photos to bring in customers. Garotas regularly complain about lack of customers. I think the Vila Mariana places like Zeus, Tangara, and Yankin are among the busiest but even there the action is light on weekdays before 5. How does it work with the Seeking Arrangement girls? Do they have one date per day and stop until the money runs out?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2909412]Met a so called "Dentist" from SA last week. We went out. It started out pretty good, I invited her to Franco de Chao in Jardins. But then I went into my monger cave man old habits. She said she didn't get down like that. I was simply only asking to go back to my hotel and BBFSCIP not such a big request, right? At least she was cool with my crude ways. She had a cool vibe. But she said, we needed to get to know each other a bit more. So we been texting and stuff. She actually invited me to her dental location WTF!? LOL So I am going to keep working on it. LOL So far SA in SP has been much better than the typical catfishing in the US. My 2 cents.[/QUOTE]Maybe she's hoping you will keep spending money on her by getting some dental work done LOL!

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2909412] I was simply only asking to go back to my hotel and BBFSCIP not such a big request, right?.[/QUOTE]From my perspective not an unreasonable request. As a soon first time visitor to Brazil, tell me how the pitch of BBFS has been going; more interested in reaction of working girls not dentists. I've had great success in Asia and Germany, but a little unsure how sem camisinha pitch will play in SP and RD.

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2909412]Met a so called "Dentist" from SA last week. We went out. It started out pretty good, I invited her to Franco de Chao in Jardins. But then I went into my monger cave man old habits. She said she didn't get down like that. I was simply only asking to go back to my hotel and BBFSCIP not such a big request, right? At least she was cool with my crude ways. She had a cool vibe. But she said, we needed to get to know each other a bit more. So we been texting and stuff. She actually invited me to her dental location WTF!? LOL So I am going to keep working on it. LOL So far SA in SP has been much better than the typical catfishing in the US. My 2 cents.[/QUOTE]"we needed to get to know each other a BIT MORE". You did not successfully read the coded message. A bit more......Reals! Remember Cindy Lauper's song - "Girls Just Wanna Have Funds".

Are $600 according to gp guide. Is it worth it?

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2909408]Doom, I like the Moema spot better. The rooms, more girls, and its also close to other spots in the event they don't have any available that you like then you can go to other Moema spots. The other spot in A. Franco is bit more isolated, so kinda forces your hand to pick one. In A. Franco location, I was force to get an 8, so whom am I to complain LOL.[/QUOTE]

In Scandallo,

I know the consumable entry fee is 300-500.

How much is the room?

How much is the minimum & usual a girl will accept for 40 min-HR for a room there?

I heard a few prices but I get confused on if people are quoting prices with all these different costs together or separately. Thank you.

[QUOTE=BenTiger07;2910294]In Scandallo,

I know the consumable entry fee is 300-500.

How much is the room?

How much is the minimum & usual a girl will accept for 40 min-HR for a room there?

I heard a few prices but I get confused on if people are quoting prices with all these different costs together or separately. Thank you.[/QUOTE]Rm is 300 R. For an hour. They will charge you per minute if you go over. Top tier girls will ask 1500 but take 1000 or 1200. You can no doubt get lower depending on looks and time of night. That is for prime time and a top girl. (Including gringo tax. Hahaha).

Ah! You may be right. We going on another date in two weeks when I get back to SP. We've been flirting heavy on text messages. I think she will be ready for BBFSCIP. She telling me how much it cost to run her dentist business and stuff. Ah Huh Ah Huh right right, I'm listening LOL.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2909814]"we needed to get to know each other a BIT MORE". You did not successfully read the coded message. A bit more......Reals! Remember Cindy Lauper's song - "Girls Just Wanna Have Funds".[/QUOTE]

I don't know, Knlwdg. If she gives BBBJ + anal + swallow I suppose. Everyone is different. But if you enjoyed it, and she becomes one of your top stunners, then I would say it was worth it.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2909823]Are $600 according to gp guide. Is it worth it?[/QUOTE]

I have alerts on my [URL]xe.com[/URL] account and BRL hit 5. 19 exchange to 1 US. Exchange was 0. 19 and when I check WellsFargo to buy currency its at 0. 21 WTF! WellsFargo is really pissing me off. I'm thinking of changing banks. They are taking like 20%-25% fee. It used to be only about 8% to 12%.

Anyone else getting better rates from other banks?

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2910360]I have alerts on my [URL]xe.com[/URL] account and BRL hit 5. 19 exchange to 1 US. Exchange was 0. 19 and when I check WellsFargo to buy currency its at 0. 21 WTF! WellsFargo is really pissing me off. I'm thinking of changing banks. They are taking like 20%-25% fee. It used to be only about 8% to 12%.

Anyone else getting better rates from other banks?[/QUOTE]I use Banco24 horas ATMs in SP and decline "their conversion rate". You usually get the market rate+a point; Best deal I have found so far there.

Triple threat would be a baseline requirement for me. As always, where it sits in the market is also part of the equation.

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2910359]I don't know, Knlwdg. If she gives BBBJ + anal + swallow I suppose. Everyone is different. But if you enjoyed it, and she becomes one of your top stunners, then I would say it was worth it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2909595]From my perspective not an unreasonable request. As a soon first time visitor to Brazil, tell me how the pitch of BBFS has been going; more interested in reaction of working girls not dentists. I've had great success in Asia and Germany, but a little unsure how sem camisinha pitch will play in SP and RD.[/QUOTE]There is no pitching for it, most are not going to do it. If they are then you are taking huge risks with your health because they are doing it with a ton of people.

If you want BBFS you need to built rapport with these girls. Get to know them, drink with them, etc. Then when you are in the room you don't talk about it, you just fuck them after foreplay. If they ask you to put a condom on then you put one on, but in many cases they just go with the flow too.

Last night checked out Gauguin for the first time. I heard about it from one of my contacts and checked it out she said a lot of girls from Scandallo and cafe are switching to this club. First impression on a Friday night similar vibe to Scandallo not as big. There are two options 290 with 100 consumable or 500 all consumable so both better options than Scandallo. There are two floors first floor club scene with dJ / band second floor open area with a stage but no band at the time I was there. VIP areas looked very nice. I met a chill girl spinner type 26 years old quoted 2000 for per noite so a little better than the 3000 many Scandalo girls quote initially (I never pay that much). She explained the VIP areas all have couches in the doors behind and cost just over 1000 depending on which VIP area (some are bigger) not for me but some you ballers out there might want to try this. Overall, not as many girls or as big as Scandallo but is a good lower cost alternative to it. I would prefer here over Bahamas or cafe foto and even Scandallo on a given night.

Does anyone know if Boates will be open May 1st or is it safe to assume they will be closed due to the public holiday?

Does anyone know if the Boates will be open May 1st, or is it safe to assume they will be closed for the public holiday?

[QUOTE=GiuseppeBonera;2911296]Last night checked out Gauguin for the first time. I heard about it from one of my contacts and checked it out she said a lot of girls from Scandallo and cafe are switching to this club. First impression on a Friday night similar vibe to Scandallo not as big. There are two options 290 with 100 consumable or 500 all consumable so both better options than Scandallo. There are two floors first floor club scene with dJ / band second floor open area with a stage but no band at the time I was there. VIP areas looked very nice. I met a chill girl spinner type 26 years old quoted 2000 for per noite so a little better than the 3000 many Scandalo girls quote initially (I never pay that much). She explained the VIP areas all have couches in the doors behind and cost just over 1000 depending on which VIP area (some are bigger) not for me but some you ballers out there might want to try this. Overall, not as many girls or as big as Scandallo but is a good lower cost alternative to it. I would prefer here over Bahamas or cafe foto and even Scandallo on a given night.[/QUOTE]2000 toda la noche vs 3000 at Escandallo's, does that include the room? Do you fuck the girl in-house or do you bring her back to your place.

It would be nice having a boate putting competition pressure on Escandallo.

[QUOTE=XXL;2911387]2000 toda la noche vs 3000 at Escandallo's, does that include the room? Do you fuck the girl in-house or do you bring her back to your place.

It would be nice having a boate putting competition pressure on Escandallo.[/QUOTE]I always take to my hotel, anytime you plan to take for more than an hour the exit fee is less expensive than the room. That's another thing exit fee at scandalo is 300 here was 250. Its funny I had just found out about this place but has been around for many years I think was just remodeled last year just before formula 1. I think is good competition for scandallo place has a really nice vibe. The girl too was down to earth maybe got lucky to find her. I still think scandallo wins given the size of the place and quantity of girls but this is a great option!

Hey Giuseppe, interesting report. I originally heard about Gauguin from one of my favorite repeat Bomboa girls, a petite blond spinner. I originally met this one about 1 year and half ago in Bomboa. She was sitting alone that night nursing a drink, and I instantly realized I had previously taken note of her advertisement pics on Club Model. I have posted about some of my trysts with her including a couple of "real" menage a trois we had together with her GF at my hotels.

Anyway, I was with her one night, just us, while I was staying at the Gran Estanplaza Berrini which as you know is across the street from Gauguin and during that visit she asked if I ever went to Gauguin. I said no and I asked her back if she ever went there and she said yes occasionally and added that sometimes it was pretty good there. So, I made note of that bit of info in the back of my brain, but I did not get around to checking the place out that trip.

Then one night on my next SP trip while I was staying again at the Gran Estanplaza Berrini I went there, but my experience was a little different than yours. KKK. That particular night was a national holiday. I had chatted with my all-time favorite Bomboa girl, Rafaella early in the day about her coming over to my place that night which was our usual thing. But she told me she was heading back home to RJ early that night to be with her family, and couldn't make it to my hotel, but she asked if I would like to stop by Bomboa early in the evening before she left town. I said Ok which is a measure of how much I liked her since seeing her in the club meant I was going to spend more $$ and have less time with her. But as this was to be our last time together on this trip, I was into it.

I went to Bomboa early, Rafaella was waiting for me, we had a drink and then went upstairs for a tender goodbye session and then had our "tearful" last kiss. I am not exaggerating. It really was a nice session, and the sex was out of this world. Rafa was always great in bed like being with a girl friend. Afterwords I had some dinner by myself in the club and then I started looking around for another girl to round out the evening. It was then that I realized Bomboa was half empty on account of the holiday and there were not any girls around that I really wanted to shag. Boo Hoo! I paid my tab and walked outside and called an Uber, ready to call it a night.

But while I waited for my ride, I saw these 2 sub-par Bomboa girls talking about where they were going to go next. The night was still young and the Bomboa customer pool that night had not been good for them. I overhead one of them say let's try Gauguin and the other agreed. I was in a good mood, and I told the girls I was going right across the street from Gauguin, and I would give them a ride if they wanted. KKK. My Uber arrived, the three of us piled into the back, and away we went.

My Gauguin experience: I paid the 290-entry option although at the time it was 190 if memory serves, and I said goodbye to the girls who had to pay their own, separate entry fee, and I walked inside to the main bar area. It was very dark, no live music, there were only 10 very ordinary girls tops hanging out at the bar, and maybe 2 or 3 customers. I got a drink and relaxed. I didn't really care about having a 2 fer that night because my last session Rafaela had been memorable and all I had to do was walk across the street to my hotel room whenever I felt like it. Then 2 Bomboa girls walked into the bar area, and they found a table to sit at. I consumed half my drink and then I wondered over to them and sat down. We talked and I asked them if Gauguin was always like this, "DEAD," and they said no, that sometimes it was really good echoing what my Bomboa blond club model girl had told me 6 months prior. The moral of the story is national holidays are not good nights to go Boate hunting unless you have made prior arrangements.

And that is my Gauguin story. I have not been back since that night, and never thought about going back, but your report has rekindled some level of interest in the joint and I might check the place out one more time in July. Who knows? It may be good or at least better than it was when I originally went there. I will let you know if I go. Rock on!

A. H.

[QUOTE=GiuseppeBonera;2911296]Last night checked out Gauguin for the first time. I heard about it from one of my contacts and checked it out she said a lot of girls from Scandallo and cafe are switching to this club. First impression on a Friday night similar vibe to Scandallo not as big. There are two options 290 with 100 consumable or 500 all consumable so both better options than Scandallo. There are two floors first floor club scene with dJ / band second floor open area with a stage but no band at the time I was there. VIP areas looked very nice. I met a chill girl spinner type 26 years old quoted 2000 for per noite so a little better than the 3000 many Scandalo girls quote initially (I never pay that much). She explained the VIP areas all have couches in the doors behind and cost just over 1000 depending on which VIP area (some are bigger) not for me but some you ballers out there might want to try this. Overall, not as many girls or as big as Scandallo but is a good lower cost alternative to it. I would prefer here over Bahamas or cafe foto and even Scandallo on a given night.[/QUOTE]

Alex, I have never heard of this place. I will have to try it next time I am down in SP and give back a report. The Sheraton WTC tower is down the block, but, I always end up at Jardins. OMG, if I have had stayed at the Sheraton, I think I would of just came down in my pajamas and flip flops, walk down the block, walk in to Gaug pick a girl out, and back to my hotel we go. LOL I love SP.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2911563]...My Gauguin experience: I paid the 290-entry option although at the time it was 190 if memory serves, and I said goodbye to the girls who had to pay their own, separate entry fee, and I walked inside to the main bar area. It was very dark, no live music, there were only 10 very ordinary girls tops hanging out at the bar, and maybe 2 or 3 customers. I got a drink and relaxed. I didn't really care about having a 2 fer that night because my last session Rafaela had been memorable and all I had to do was walk across the street to my hotel room whenever I felt like it. Then 2 Bomboa girls walked into the bar area, and they found a table to sit at. I consumed half my drink and then I wondered over to them and sat down. We talked and I asked them if Gauguin was always like this, "DEAD," and they said no, that sometimes it was really good echoing what my Bomboa blond club model girl had told me 6 months prior. The moral of the story is national holidays are not good nights to go Boate hunting unless you have made prior arrangements.

And that is my Gauguin story. I have not been back since that night, and never thought about going back, but your report has rekindled some level of interest in the joint and I might check the place out one more time in July. Who knows? It may be good or at least better than it was when I originally went there. I will let you know if I go. Rock on!

A. H.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WayneRoberts;2911043]There is no pitching for it, most are not going to do it. If they are then you are taking huge risks with your health because they are doing it with a ton of people.

If you want BBFS you need to built rapport with these girls. Get to know them, drink with them, etc. Then when you are in the room you don't talk about it, you just fuck them after foreplay. If they ask you to put a condom on then you put one on, but in many cases they just go with the flow too.[/QUOTE]Yup. Asking for it upfront is not the best way. In my experience if you've been with a girl a couple times, there's a good chance she will initiate it. FWIW I do not look for or want BB, but I've had a number of times in Brasil and Colombia where I get comfortable with a girl and she just hops on my dick with no protection.

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2911847]Alex, I have never heard of this place. I will have to try it next time I am down in SP and give back a report. The Sheraton WTC tower is down the block, but, I always end up at Jardins. OMG, if I have had stayed at the Sheraton, I think I would of just came down in my pajamas and flip flops, walk down the block, walk in to Gaug pick a girl out, and back to my hotel we go. LOL I love SP.[/QUOTE]Yeah, you can't beat the location of the Sheraton / Gran Estanplaza Berrini / Hilton if Gaugin is the primary objective. In addition, the Wyndham Sao Paulo Berrini is right around the block and the Grand Hyatt, my favorite hotel in SP is only 5 blocks away. Still, this is not my favorite neighborhood to stay in. I much prefer to stay in Jardins and Itaim Bibi on account of the latter two's more interesting neighborhoods to walk around in and their more / better restaurants to choose from. In terms of boate proximity, I recommend the Marriott Exec and the Grand Mercure SP Itaim Bibi both situated 2 blocks from Bomboa, my 2nd favorite boate in SP and a fairly fast Uber ride to Scandallo and the Moema clinicas.

A lot of business travelers stay adjacent to the World Trade Center (Sheraton / Gran Estanplaza Berrini / Hilton) complex which accounts for the particularly high prices these hotels, especially the Hilton, ask. I stay at the Hilton only on points and it usually costs a lot of points to stay there, significantly more than other Hilton properties say in BKK for example. I sometimes find reasonable rates at the Sheraton and the Gran Estanplaza Berrini. The latter is a very nice 4*. I like the balcony rooms, their quality breakfast, and the friendly staff. But the Grand Hyatt usually offers very good, discount good rates considering this hotel's high quality hence it is my favorite hotel in this proximate area. It all comes down to location, location, location and Price. From Gaugin's perspective, a boate could not want a better location. There must be a hell of a lot of businessmen types frequenting this club if GiuseppeBonera's report is accurate.

I love SP too. I think of it as the City of Women.

[QUOTE=Combo;2911876]Yup. Asking for it upfront is not the best way. In my experience if you've been with a girl a couple times, there's a good chance she will initiate it. FWIW I do not look for or want BB, but I've had a number of times in Brasil and Colombia where I get comfortable with a girl and she just hops on my dick with no protection.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Much different than Asia. Only having 5 days in Rio and 4 days SP I don't have luxury of getting to know the girl over time. I'll have to play it by ear and let my charm and broken Portuguese do its magic. Or maybe pick someone up at a bjj gym or pay ridiculous USA prices for a fuck on SA like I've been reading lately. Fucking hate SA which is guess why they banned me.

Alex, I also never tried Bomboa [URL]https://bomboa.com.br[/URL] . I have heard about it as other people have told me to check it out. But, Scandalo is my #1 but my #2 (as of lately) has been Bahamas Hotel Club. Love how they have the mirrors on the ceilings Been times, I take a girl (or two) out of Bahamas and we go to the swinger spot Hot Bar which is 3 blocks away. Makes for a fun night. But I'm back in SP next week, so I will check out Bomboa as well. What do you like most about it? In their website the spot looks small.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2911989]Yeah, you can't beat the location of the Sheraton / Gran Estanplaza Berrini / Hilton if Gaugin is the primary objective. In addition, the Wyndham Sao Paulo Berrini is right around the block and the Grand Hyatt, my favorite hotel in SP is only 5 blocks away. Still, this is not my favorite neighborhood to stay in. I much prefer to stay in Jardins and Itaim Bibi on account of the latter two's more interesting neighborhoods to walk around in and their more / better restaurants to choose from. In terms of boate proximity, I recommend the Marriott Exec and the Grand Mercure SP Itaim Bibi both situated 2 blocks from Bomboa, my 2nd favorite boate in SP and a fairly fast Uber ride to Scandallo and the Moema clinicas.

A lot of business travelers stay adjacent to the World Trade Center (Sheraton / Gran Estanplaza Berrini / Hilton) complex which accounts for the particularly high prices these hotels, especially the Hilton, ask. I stay at the Hilton only on points and it usually costs a lot of points to stay there, significantly more than other Hilton properties say in BKK for example. I sometimes find reasonable rates at the Sheraton and the Gran Estanplaza Berrini. The latter is a very nice 4*. I like the balcony rooms, their quality breakfast, and the friendly staff. But the Grand Hyatt usually offers very good, discount good rates considering this hotel's high quality hence it is my favorite hotel in this proximate area. It all comes down to location, location, location and Price. From Gaugin's perspective, a boate could not want a better location. There must be a hell of a lot of businessmen types frequenting this club if GiuseppeBonera's report is accurate.

I love SP too. I think of it as the City of Women.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2912095]Alex, I also never tried Bomboa [URL]https://bomboa.com.br[/URL] . I have heard about it as other people have told me to check it out. But, Scandalo is my #1 but my #2 (as of lately) has been Bahamas Hotel Club. Love how they have the mirrors on the ceilings Been times, I take a girl (or two) out of Bahamas and we go to the swinger spot Hot Bar which is 3 blocks away. Makes for a fun night. But I'm back in SP next week, so I will check out Bomboa as well. What do you like most about it? In their website the spot looks small.[/QUOTE]Bomboa a unique boate and it resembles a neighborhood nightclub / supper club. I have said it before and I will say it again, Bomboa is a place where everyone knows your name. The staff are professional and friendly, and they really know how to take care of their customers. There is a fairly good restaurant on the 2nd floor and customers can eat there or have their food orders brought down to them in the bar area. Physically the club is about 2 x larger than Bahamas and about the size of Scandallo. The space was enlarged a little while back. The rooms are well maintained and most have mirrors.

I would rate Bomboa girl quality somewhere in between Scandallo and Bahamas. They don't have many tier 1 stunners, but there is usually an ample supply of tier 2 girl next door types although on average Bomboa's girl next doors appear to be a little older than Scandallo tier 2 types. That said, I always find a good girl there and sometimes I find a real diamond like my Rafa or Licia. Some Bomboa girls will ask as much as 1000 br, but they will readily accept a friendly counteroffer. I have never given a Bomboa girl more than 800 br and usually their price is between 600 br and 700 br. No hard negotiations are necessary. The girls are into friendly, if you know what I mean, hands on get to know you auditions over a drink or two. Some girls occasionally go wild and take off their clothes doing all sorts of crazy stuff with their customers in plain view of everyone else. There is always live musical entertainment. It is great boate!

The best time to go is between 9:30 and 10:00 on a Wednesday, Thursday or Friday night although like Scandallo, pretty girls keep arriving until around 11:00. Have fun!

A. H.

I meant to say, physically Bomboa is about 2 x larger than Bahamas and about 1/4 the size of Scandallo.

Just wrapped another extended stay in SP. Here is the report.

Scandallo: went here on the first night I arrived, with a wingman I linked up here. I would rate the women here at 8-8. 5 on my book. They are fine, but just not really my type. I don't like too much makeup and perfume, which seems to be the theme with 8 out of 10 goratas here. I did not find the quality justify 1,500-2,000 they quoted me. My wingman went with a hot blonde for 1,500. He enjoyed it, said it was good. But the girl had piercings on her nipples so he did not like. This is a lesson for us to learn some Brazilian so we can ask before decided to go in.

The rest of days I visited clinicas in Moema, which is what I would recommend you to do as well. The average cost per hour is 300 reals. Girls quality rate 6. 5-8 on my book. I was able to find at least 2-3 8's a day, and even a 9 once, more on that later.

Prime: well reviewed here. Location is great, normal house, surrounded by plenty of businesses. The manager seems cold at first, but once she knows you she is really friendly. I sessioned 4 tiimes here. 3 were with the same girl, a skinny brunette. I would rate her a 7. 5, but real GFE. The last time I went she was not around so I went with a different woman. The session was fine, nothing to complain. I would recommend to start at this place, then go to other ones.

57: Came here twice, first time I didn't like anyone. But second time I chose a "curvy" brunette. Big ass and big boobs, all natural. I loved her body but did not like her face as much. I think many of you would find her attractive, but I liked the prime girl more.

Miruna: there was a hot blonde, they say it was her utimas dias so I picked her out of the line. She is a real talker, spoke some ingles. She knew the nasty words so maybe one of you taught her that. She might still be around, go find her haha.

Went to a few other ones in the same area, but did not like what I saw. I think I went to Enjoy, Moa, and Indy which is 20 minutes away by walking. There is a newish one, mentioned here as one of the two locations, 350 one hour. Saw a girl next door type, but I had already sessioned that day, so decided to pass.

Tangara and Yankin: if you know some brazilian, come here and you will have a great time. If you are gringo like me, still come here to see 20-30 girls at a time. I would say I would do 5 out of the line any day. Cheaper, at the low 200 range. The area around Yankin seems to be working class, but did not feel danger or anything.

To sum up: prime and miruna are my fav. Tangara and Yankin if you want to save some money. Excuse typos. Fun mongering.

What Axel says, after the erratum, is correct. The atmosphere in Bomboa is relaxed and you can find 8's often and 9's from time to time.

However, Bomboa is not cheap, after all expenses, a night of great action can cost as much as Scandallo, which is ok. Do not expect lower cost from average.

You can find lots of airbnbs around.

Production with a bomboa girl with solid bunda in bomboa neighborhood.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2912256]I meant to say, physically Bomboa is about 2 x larger than Bahamas and about 1/4 the size of Scandallo.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2912332]Just wrapped another extended stay in SP. Here is the report.

The rest of days I visited clinicas in Moema, which is what I would recommend you to do as well. The average cost per hour is 300 reals. Girls quality rate 6. 5-8 on my book. I was able to find at least 2-3 8's a day, and even a 9 once, more on that later.


To sum up: prime and miruna are my fav. Tangara and Yankin if you want to save some money. Excuse typos. Fun mongering.[/QUOTE]Good intell. Can I ask what times during the day did you visit the clinicas and when do you recommend going?

Moema spots are great. I prefer the Abbobora and Lushness Spa in the Moema area. Normally, hit those up early, at the opening bell. Want to be the one who gets first dibs on the girl for that day. Don't want her worn out by some of ya'll LOL As for Scandallo, 1500 - 2000 is about right. As soon as she hears the foreign accent, etc. After a few drinks, she relaxes, price always seems to be more negotiable. But Normally, I get right to the point, example, I don't like hair on the legs and booty. Some brazilian girls have hair on legs, and booty, and I just ask up front. Or if I want to put it in her ass that night, then I am up front with it. So, no surprises. And 10 out of 10 times, you end up finding exactly what you want for that day. Even tho our taste can change day by day.

[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2912332]Just wrapped another extended stay in SP. Here is the report.

Scandallo: went here on the first night I arrived, with a wingman I linked up here. I would rate the women here at 8-8. 5 on my book. They are fine, but just not really my type. I don't like too much makeup and perfume, which seems to be the theme with 8 out of 10 goratas here. I did not find the quality justify 1,500-2,000 they quoted me. My wingman went with a hot blonde for 1,500. He enjoyed it, said it was good. But the girl had piercings on her nipples so he did not like. This is a lesson for us to learn some Brazilian so we can ask before decided to go in.

Tangara and Yankin: if you know some brazilian, come here and you will have a great time. If you are gringo like me, still come here to see 20-30 girls at a time. I would say I would do 5 out of the line any day. Cheaper, at the low 200 range. The area around Yankin seems to be working class, but did not feel danger or anything.

To sum up: prime and miruna are my fav. Tangara and Yankin if you want to save some money. Excuse typos. Fun mongering.[/QUOTE]

I saw that they are also building a Westin a few blocks away. Looks like its going to be real nice. Normally, I go to these spots with a budget in mind. I used get 3 girls back in the days, and have the energy to bang all three at the same time. Now, I'm more like, GFE all day LOL and we bang three different ways.

[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2912378]What Axel says, after the erratum, is correct. The atmosphere in Bomboa is relaxed and you can find 8's often and 9's from time to time.

However, Bomboa is not cheap, after all expenses, a night of great action can cost as much as Scandallo, which is ok. Do not expect lower cost from average.

You can find lots of airbnbs around.

Production with a bomboa girl with solid bunda in bomboa neighborhood.[/QUOTE]

Has anyone received the same request as this. Two days, I go I contacted one on ClubModel. She asked me to send her a photo of me and she only wanted to do incall. She didn't want to come to hotel spot. I didn't send any photo's. Heck to the no. What are your thoughts?

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2912755]Has anyone received the same request as this. Two days, I go I contacted one on ClubModel. She asked me to send her a photo of me and she only wanted to do incall. She didn't want to come to hotel spot. I didn't send any photo's. Heck to the no. What are your thoughts?[/QUOTE]My first Brazilian GP wanted me to either pix her $$ for an uber or to order her an uber for an outcall to my place. I didn't even have uber installed at that time and obv I couldn't have pix as a foreigner so she asked me to send her a photo of mine. So I did, to which she replied "Você parece ser bonzinho" and we agreed that I'll just pay her cash after she arrives.

Fun fact: she left a piece of clothing at my condohotel and when she came to pick it up two days later I talked her into giving me one more quick BJ free of charge.

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2912558]Moema spots are great. I prefer the Abbobora and Lushness Spa in the Moema area. Normally, hit those up early, at the opening bell. Want to be the one who gets first dibs on the girl for that day. Don't want her worn out by some of ya'll LOL As for Scandallo, 1500 - 2000 is about right. As soon as she hears the foreign accent, etc. After a few drinks, she relaxes, price always seems to be more negotiable. But Normally, I get right to the point, example, I don't like hair on the legs and booty. Some brazilian girls have hair on legs, and booty, and I just ask up front. Or if I want to put it in her ass that night, then I am up front with it. So, no surprises. And 10 out of 10 times, you end up finding exactly what you want for that day. Even tho our taste can change day by day.[/QUOTE]To add on to this at Scandallo, if the girl speaks English, you are definitely paying the 1500 - 2000. Like some have stated in this thread, it might be a better option to chat up a girl you like through the night, see if her vibe is right, then meet her outside of the club. I've done this a couple of times and got more bang for my time and money. Of course, it depends on if you have the time or desire, to hang with a girl for an extended amount of time.

[QUOTE=KcDark;2912974]To add on to this at Scandallo, if the girl speaks English, you are definitely paying the 1500 - 2000.[/QUOTE]Actually during my first and only visit in Scandallo a year ago, I easily negotiated an hour upstairs down from R1000 (technically the R1000 was an answer to my question on how much she usually charges, not her quote directly to me) to R500 with a decent looking English speaking girl. But given that all the guys in the thread state that they pay way more I don't think the fact that I'm in late 20's and about 190 cm tall had much to do with it, probably was just lucky, especially as I subjectively consider my overall physical attractiveness as slightly below average.

Maybe what could be the deciding factor was that I showed her the girl from a website I spent an hour with earlier that month, who had previously won a state-wide beauty contest in one of Brazilian states, and was also charging only R500 for an incall (which I proved by showing her my whatsapp chat history with her)? After that when I wanted to show her something else, IDR exactly what but as soon as I opened instagram app she immediately told me she doesn't want me to show her any more other women LOL.

Also she tried to kiss me about 5 minutes into our conversation at Scandallo's restaurant, is that normal with these women?

[QUOTE=BangKoker;2913077]Actually during my first and only visit in Scandallo a year ago, I easily negotiated an hour upstairs down from R1000 (technically the R1000 was an answer to my question on how much she usually charges, not her quote directly to me) to R500 with a decent looking English speaking girl. But given that all the guys in the thread state that they pay way more I don't think the fact that I'm in late 20's and about 190 cm tall had much to do with it, probably was just lucky, especially as I subjectively consider my overall physical attractiveness as slightly below average.

Maybe what could be the deciding factor was that I showed her the girl from a website I spent an hour with earlier that month, who had previously won a state-wide beauty contest in one of Brazilian states, and was also charging only R500 for an incall (which I proved by showing her my whatsapp chat history with her)? After that when I wanted to show her something else, IDR exactly what but as soon as I opened instagram app she immediately told me she doesn't want me to show her any more other women LOL.

Also she tried to kiss me about 5 minutes into our conversation at Scandallo's restaurant, is that normal with these women?[/QUOTE]I agree the 1500-2000 seems high, based on our experience. Between us Mark and I took five girls to the room for an hour. All top tier. Generally they asked 1500 but took 1000,1100, 1200, and 1500. There was only one that stuck to her guns on 1500 - she could tell she had Mark by the balls. But the others were all more reasonable. As always YMMV.

[QUOTE=BangKoker;2913077] But given that all the guys in the thread state that they pay way more [/QUOTE]They probably are taking a different type of girls. It's YMMV but the reports here will get people used to the high price. I think speaking English does not matter that much in price, beauty comes first.

[QUOTE=BangKoker;2913077] Also she tried to kiss me about 5 minutes into our conversation at Scandallo's restaurant, is that normal with these women?[/QUOTE]In my experience, no, especially not in the restaurant.

[QUOTE=Krilimag;2904573]Alright fellows, I have been perusing through a lot of discussions, sites, etc. For the past several months and as I get closer to my trip I am asking for your input as I complete my stops, specifically with clinicas.

Below is my line up that I think will be within close proximity to Moema. They are not in particular order but need your assistance to fill in question marks?

Please correct also if I am greatly mistaken on the information I have.

1. Lotus Lounge.

Type: Ipad system.

Area: Jardins.

Approximate Price: 700-800 reales.

Does it have a bar: Yes.

2. Abobora.

Type: Actual line-up.

Area: Concelao.

Approximate Price: 400 reales.

Does it have a bar: Yes.

Website: ?

3. Palms.

Type: Ipad system.

Area: Brooklin.

Approximate Price: 800-900 reales.

Does it have a bar: No.

4. Sharon Premium.

Type: Ipad system.

Area: Moema.

Approximate Price: 650 reales.

Does it have a bar: Yes.

5. Prime.

Type: Ipad system.

Area: Brooklin.

Approximate Price: 600 reales.

Does it have a bar: No.

Website: ?

6. Miruna.

Type: Line up.

Area: Villa Mariana.

Approximate Price: 600 reales.

Does it have a bar: No.

Website: ?

7. Baronesas.

Type: Ipad system.

Area: Congonhas.

Approximate Price: 700-800 reales.

Does it have a bar: Yes.

8. Yankin.

Type: Line up.

Area: Near Moema.

Approximate Price: 400 reales.

Does it have a bar: No.

Website: ?

9. Tangara.

Type: Line up.

Area: Ibirapuera Park area.

Approximate Price: 450 reales.

Does it have a bar: No.

Website: ?

10. Oro.

Type: Ipad system.

Area: ?

Approximate Price: ? Reales.

Does it have a bar: ?

Website: ?

11. Taj Mahal.

Type: Line up.

Area: Villa Mariana.

Approximate Price: 600 reales.

Does it have a bar: No.

Website: ?[/QUOTE]Prime is not an iPad system, they have an actual lineup.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2913194]I agree the 1500-2000 seems high, based on our experience. Between us Mark and I took five girls to the room for an hour. All top tier. Generally they asked 1500 but took 1000,1100, 1200, and 1500. There was only one that stuck to her guns on 1500 - she could tell she had Mark by the balls. But the others were all more reasonable. As always YMMV.[/QUOTE]Simply asking because I plan on breaking my Brazil cherry soon. And if my math is right they're asking for 1500-2000 which is 300-400 usd for one pop?? Is that about right?

Nah. I think they are debating that the "ask" is about 1500-2000. But that's that not what you should pay. They will always ask for more. The folks here are saying don't fall for that higher price ask. Always negotiate it down. Some even got it down to R500.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2913412]Simply asking because I plan on breaking my Brazil cherry soon. And if my math is right they're asking for 1500-2000 which is 300-400 usd for one pop?? Is that about right?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2913194]I agree the 1500-2000 seems high, based on our experience. Between us Mark and I took five girls to the room for an hour. All top tier. Generally they asked 1500 but took 1000,1100, 1200, and 1500. There was only one that stuck to her guns on 1500 - she could tell she had Mark by the balls. But the others were all more reasonable. As always YMMV.[/QUOTE]You guys both took 5 girls in total to one room? Sounds like quite a fiesta!

Go big or go home, LOL!

[QUOTE=Trojan22;2913656]You guys both took 5 girls in total to one room? Sounds like quite a fiesta![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Trojan22;2913656]You guys both took 5 girls in total to one room? Sounds like quite a fiesta![/QUOTE]Hahah. No it was all one on one. But I remembered wrong. We went two different nights and each took 2 two girls each night (different sessions). So a total of 8 girls but one was the same girl so really seven. All were in that 1000-1200 range except Gabi at 1500.

That said, I did have a "seven-some" with sn amazing old dude (70) at Globe in Zurich a few weeks back. He had three girls and I had two. There was flogging (another guy), watersports, and a banana. It was really something. I posted it in the seeking arrangements thread. Worth a read. It was epic.

Here is day 2 with the sevensome. http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4144-Seeking-Arrangements/page3
U might want to start with day one a few posts prior to get the background.

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2913575]Nah. I think they are debating that the "ask" is about 1500-2000. But that's that not what you should pay. They will always ask for more. The folks here are saying don't fall for that higher price ask. Always negotiate it down. Some even got it down to R500.[/QUOTE]Most Scandallo girls that ask 1500-2000 are high quality tier 1. If I like / want the girl, I will counter with 1/2 of her offer and will go as high as 1/2 + 200. This approach has only failed me 1 time and there were extenuating circumstances for that lone one time: while I was interviewing the girl over a drink, her GF had lined up 3 VIP Brazilians waiting for her in the wings with open bottles of liquor, so the girl had little incentive to accept my counter. But except for that one time, really hot tier 1's have always quoted me in the 1500-2000 range, say 2000 and I always countered with 1000 and we always settled on 1000 or 1200.

Most tier 2 Scandallo girls will ask 1200 or far, far less. I apply roughly the same approach as with tier 1's and counter with half and I am willing to settle for 1/2 + 200. So if a tier 2 l asks 800, I will counter with 600 or 700 (not 400), and if I like the girl I am even willing to accept her 800 original. Nothing is set in stone. My main point here is that I have never paid more than 800 for a pretty Scandallo girl next door type.

Interestingly, when I first started visiting Scandallo during Omicron (Oct 2021) all the girls I interviewed were asking 500 to 700. My pretty Valeria was asking 500 and I immediately accepted her offer. Later in April 2022 on my 3rd SP trip and after our 5th or 6th time in-house, she suggested the idea of a modified ST which amounted to 5 to 7 hours at my hotel (no clock watching), and multiple you know what for 900 and I happily accepted the upsell. It is a good price for what I am receiving in return, but it ain't exactly cheap in that that we always enjoy a bottle of "quality" red wine (200 and up), sometimes we indulge in smoke (delivered to my hotel), and we always have either room service, delivery or we go out for dinner. All the incidentals add up, but who cares. I really like this girl and I see her like 3 x a week on Sunday, Monday, and Wednesday nights when I am in town. Sundays, Mondays and holidays are slow nights. Valeria makes those nights memorable and I am looking forward to seeing her many times this June thru July.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2913866]Hahah. No it was all one on one. But I remembered wrong. We went two different nights and each took 2 two girls each night (different sessions). So a total of 8 girls but one was the same girl so really seven. All were in that 1000-1200 range except Gabi at 1500. [/QUOTE]Gabi must have been hot! I wrote that I have never paid more than 1200, but that doesn't mean I will never pay more for a real looker if I really like / want her. KKK. It's only money. I rule nothing out.

As usual Axel is spot on. As to Gabi I didn't find her that hot — she was Marks girl and Mark is a newbie. She's a real pro and knew she had him by the balls. I would never have taken her for 1500 but he was quite smitten w her (think a very sophisticated secretary who is very naughty). He reported she was great in the room and in fact had her for another 90 minutes over at the hotel. She's all business about the $$ though. Tough negotiator!

To each his own, my 10 is your 8, ymmv, and chemistry is everything. Who cares what it costs. Money is only something you need if you don't die tomorrow.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2914025]As usual Axel is spot on. As to Gabi I didn't find her that hot she was Marks girl and Mark is a newbie. She's a real pro and knew she had him by the balls. I would never have taken her for 1500 but he was quite smitten w her (think a very sophisticated secretary who is very naughty). He reported she was great in the room and in fact had her for another 90 minutes over at the hotel. She's all business about the $$ though. Tough negotiator![/QUOTE]

I am currently enjoying my time in Medellin, Colombia. My plan is to visit all South American countries, so now I'm thinking of moving on to Brazil. Any advice you guys could give me would be greatly appreciated!

From what I've seen, scandalo in São Paulo seems to be the best brothel in the world, is that correct?

I don't know where to visit between Rio de Janeiro and São Paulo.

Which city is better for a sex tour?

And in which cities is it easier to find a date, and not just for prostitution?

And is it true that Brazil has the hottest girls? I think Colombian girls are more reserved.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2914025]As usual Axel is spot on. As to Gabi I didn't find her that hot she was Marks girl and Mark is a newbie. She's a real pro and knew she had him by the balls. I would never have taken her for 1500 but he was quite smitten w her (think a very sophisticated secretary who is very naughty). He reported she was great in the room and in fact had her for another 90 minutes over at the hotel. She's all business about the $$ though. Tough negotiator![/QUOTE]Not that unusual. I have seen and experienced it. You just click with some people and they are better when they are with you. That just makes the sex better. And I am always willing to find that person. A model can process you and she will not be worth much. The factor I use to determine if she is good is how often I will repeat with her. People who are really good are usually busy. Then you have to bid higher to get her time.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2913971]Most Scandallo girls that ask 1500-2000 are high quality tier 1. If I like / want the girl, I will counter with 1/2 of her offer and will go as high as 1/2 + 200. This approach has only failed me 1 time and there were extenuating circumstances for that lone one time: while I was interviewing the girl over a drink, her GF had lined up 3 VIP Brazilians waiting for her in the wings with open bottles of liquor, so the girl had little incentive to accept my counter. But except for that one time, really hot tier 1's have always quoted me in the 1500-2000 range, say 2000 and I always countered with 1000 and we always settled on 1000 or 1200.

Most tier 2 Scandallo girls will ask 1200 or far, far less. I apply roughly the same approach as with tier 1's and counter with half and I am willing to settle for 1/2 + 200. So if a tier 2 l asks 800, I will counter with 600 or 700 (not 400), and if I like the girl I am even willing to accept her 800 original. Nothing is set in stone. My main point here is that I have never paid more than 800 for a pretty Scandallo girl next door type.

Interestingly, when I first started visiting Scandallo during Omicron (Oct 2021) all the girls I interviewed were asking 500 to 700. My pretty Valeria was asking 500 and I immediately accepted her offer. Later in April 2022 on my 3rd SP trip and after our 5th or 6th time in-house, she suggested the idea of a modified ST which amounted to 5 to 7 hours at my hotel (no clock watching), and multiple you know what for 900 and I happily accepted the upsell. It is a good price for what I am receiving in return, but it ain't exactly cheap in that that we always enjoy a bottle of "quality" red wine (200 and up), sometimes we indulge in smoke (delivered to my hotel), and we always have either room service, delivery or we go out for dinner. All the incidentals add up, but who cares. I really like this girl and I see her like 3 x a week on Sunday, Monday, and Wednesday nights when I am in town. Sundays, Mondays and holidays are slow nights. Valeria makes those nights memorable and I am looking forward to seeing her many times this June thru July.

Gabi must have been hot! I wrote that I have never paid more than 1200, but that doesn't mean I will never pay more for a real looker if I really like / want her. KKK. It's only money. I rule nothing out.[/QUOTE]Who classifies each girl as Tier 1 or Tier 2?

One guy's Tier 1 may not be another's.

What if a girl believes she is Tier 1 but to you she's not, however, she starts out at Tier 1 pricing?
Do you tell her, amor, me perdoe, mas voce não e de Tier 1 lol

[QUOTE=Balboa;2910020]A true 8. 5-10 in Colombia. LOL.
Are you the official judge of who gets that rating?
A true 8. 5-10 anywhere is in the eye of the beholder. Not what you may believe is a 9 or a 10.
Isn't this just common sense?
A young, skinny, teen looking girl may be someone's 9 or 10, though you may rate her as a Bello nada.
An Instagram model with big fake boobs and fake booty with lots of pretty makeup that may charge 3 million pesos may be someone's 10, but to others, not so much.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Balboa;2914120]Who classifies each girl as Tier 1 or Tier 2?

One guy's Tier 1 may not be another's.

What if a girl believes she is Tier 1 but to you she's not, however, she starts out at Tier 1 pricing?
Do you tell her, amor, me perdoe, mas voce no e de Tier 1 lol[/QUOTE]Of course you are right, every single punter has his own idea of what is hot and what is not so hot and I am quite sure that my preference for slender, natural, not too much makeup, kind of pretty girl is not what some others are looking for.

I use the Tier 1,2,3,4 terminology because I think it is more descriptive and less subjective than the more familiar 1 thru 10 star descriptions. Here is an example of what I mean: a BM goes to a popular boate like Bomboa and has a great time. Then he posts a report about his experience and states that the bar was filled with 9's and 10's. Other than getting the point that the BM had a real good time, I find not much informative value in such a description because personally I have only seen 1 or 2 8's in Bomboa in the last 3. 5 years and zero 9's. Same same for a high end place like Scandallo. On a good night I see a lot of plus 7's I. E. Very attractive girls, but very few real 8's and no 9's or 10's. Yes, I am a tough grader. I have been punting for a long time and it takes a high level of looks to blow me away. Meanwhile some other guys are star inflaters although I am sure they believe what they are posting.

I have explained my tier evaluation system a few times on this forum. Basically, a Tier 1, IMHO, is a natural stunner or model quality girl whose outstanding good looks grab my attention the moment I see her. In a split second I know what I am viewing because the girl stands out way above the crowd. This would correspond to a 7. 5* and up type girl in the star system and IMHO I believe that Scandallo has the largest quantity of these kinds of girls (stunners) anywhere. In fact I think this club enjoys a higher ratio of stunners than comparable Jakarta top end bordellos, the best BKK soapies, or my favorite Macau saunas. Scandallo ranks high. That is why I like it so much.

Now here is where the first issue you mention comes into play I. E. "one guy's Tier 1 may not be another's:" in Scandallo for example, in addition to the Tier 1's that I have described above, there is also a group of girls with very beautiful faces, but they are not slender, they sport more than hourglass figures thanks to their large fake breasts and huge bundas. I don't go for this type at all, but I know many guys do. I rate these girls Tier 3 because there is no way I am going upstairs with one of them. Been there, done that, so yeah, I agree with you; my tier 1 may be someone else's tier 3 and someone's tier 1 might be my tier 3. I have never posted anything contrary to this.

Tier 2's are, IMHO, nice looking, pretty, girl next door types with slender natural bodies. Tier 2's would be 5. 8 star to 7. 49 star in the star rating system. Tier 2's are actually my favorite type of girl in Scandallo. I don"t think there is much disagreement with this description although I aware that many guys are not looking for this type of girl. More for me and at a better price point.

And then there are Tier 4's which IMHO are unfuckable, KKK. I am talking about girls with plain faces (I am being kind) and fat or beyond the pale ridiculous bodies. But yeah, some guys really like this type too. We have all seen happy, very happy punters in Scandallo playing around with tier 4 type girls. Proof that there is no accounting for taste, but let me be perfectly clear, I am not knocking it. As John Lenon once said, "whatever gets you thru the night. It's all right, it's all right. It's your money or your life. It's all right, it's all right".

Now to your 2nd point: "What if a girl believes she is Tier 1 but to you she's not, however, she starts out at Tier 1 pricing? Actually, this does not occur very often in SP boates, but my response would be simple: if a girl asks for more than I think she is worth, I politely end the interview and walkaway. I don't care what her reasoning is. She may think she is a higher category girl than I think she is or she might be trying to hustle me because she thinks I am a dumb gringo with a large wallet. In either case I walk. There are plenty of friendly and eligible girls standing in the wings that I can choose from instead.

But here is the thing: Most Scandallo girls are very well aware of their position on the totem pole So most Tier 1's know where they rank in the Scandallo hierarchy and they will initially ask for something in the 1500 to 2000 price range and are willing to settle for less. Most Tier 2's also know where they rank in the Scandallo hierarchy and they will start off in the 800 to 1200 price range and are willing to settle for less. So it is very rare in my boate expereince for a Tier 2 to ask me for more and they nearly always are willing to settle for something in the 600 to 800 ball park.

It is what I would label as Tier 3 girls where this might seem a little tricky because some of these Tier 3 girls are very popular and have very attractive faces, but they also come with large silly cones and / or large bundas. So many of this type of Scandallo girl will rate and price themselves as a Tier 1 girl. Thus a girl like this will most likely ask large and in such a situation it is up to you, what you want to do about it. I mean, if this is what you like, then go for it. If not, punt and find a different girl more to your liking. It is that simple.

Cmon, Balboa, if you, Alex, and me were sitting at a table together at Scandallo and a "Tier 1" walked by per Alex's Tier 1 standards, its going to be a 98% chance we all going to agree. LOL but I get ya' point. Tier 1 is the whole package GFE + Looks for me.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2914120]Who classifies each girl as Tier 1 or Tier 2?

One guy's Tier 1 may not be another's.

What if a girl believes she is Tier 1 but to you she's not, however, she starts out at Tier 1 pricing?
Do you tell her, amor, me perdoe, mas voce no e de Tier 1 lol[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2914272]Cmon, Balboa, if you, Alex, and me were sitting at a table together at Scandallo and a "Tier 1" walked by per Alex's Tier 1 standards, its going to be a 98% chance we all going to agree. LOL but I get ya' point. Tier 1 is the whole package GFE + Looks for me.[/QUOTE]Shaun we've all been there. Many times.

A buddy says, damn look at that girl! She's a 10! (Tier1).

And you say, where?

He says, her! And points to a girl.

And you think uh huh, she's a maybe Tier2/3 LOL.

Whatever though, I'm just kidding around.

I do my own rating and negotiating system and it's not really analytical.

I'm in SP now.

Hit Casaro last night. I saw 3 girls that I liked and wanted to meet.

The first one I approached was too cold and too pro. Gong sounded in my head, lol, I rejected her silently and left her.

The other 2 were both great!

Very good looking imo, very cool, sweet, affectionate.

We talked a bit and went and had fun together, individually.

No formulas or equations.

Whatever works for each guy is great.

I'm fortunate to be able to speak pretty good portuguese, I'm good at dando papo, and reading a girl.

If she thinks I'm cool and feels comfortable with me, she'll give me a reasonable amount when I ask about it.

If she gives me a ridiculous price, I don't even want to counter, I just politely leave her.

Both girls last night offered me a perfect price, and I said vamos!

That's just me though.

To each their own, I'm cool with that.

I hit a couple trash buildings today, and among the many not so good looking girls, I found a 19 year old diamond imo, and I took her to a motel around the corner.
Great time.

Back to Casarao tonite :)
Scandalo probably tomorrow to feel the nicer ambiance, and see what happens.
I’ll go in tranquilo, after meeting up with the 19 year old sweety again beforehand.

Fique de boa!

[QUOTE=Balboa;2914326]I do my own rating and negotiating system and it's not really analytical.[/QUOTE]Yeah, keep it simple. So, if you're talking to a girl and your dick is hard then she must at least be a 7 on your personal optics scale hahaha! No need to over analyze LOL!

A few things wished I had known earlier. I prefer a neighborhood like Moema. It's walkable to clinics without having so many tourists and shops. The airport noise is a real deal in Moema. Finally found a studio condo building with double-paned glass, and modern appliances, 4 minute's walk from Prime, Miruna, Abbobhrs, and 7 min Uber to CGH. It is called Allure Moema.

Av. Dos Imars, 508 - Moema, So Paulo. I paid are $300 reais per night. Excellent value and the plane noise was dramatically reduced. I slept well after a night of scandal partying. I tried different places around Moema Tsue Flats, Hotel Bourbon, Charlie Stay, Ibis, Club Suites, Cozzy Suites, Intercity, Comfort, airplane noise, soundproof rooms were Bourbon, Condo Allure Moema, and Cozzy Suites closer to Tangara. It's outside of the CGH flight path.

Wished I had known earlier about Lush Motel and how it works. This has been a fantastic 3-hour option to meet garotas after work or outside the clinicas. My style isn't to bring untested, unknown garotas back to Airbnb. Stuff happens. Prefer the MO to bang them in clinics, onsite boats, or even better short-term motel Lush for hours of fun.

Wish I had known earlier about which airlines to take between RIo and So Paulo or CGH airport to SDU. There are so many flight options. The longer you wait to book expect to pay a USD 400 to USD 700 ticket that usually costs $60 to 80 dollars one way. The choices are Gol, Azul, and Latam. Flight occurs every 15 or 20 min throughout the day between CGH and SDU airport. I have flown each airline because wanted to decide for myself. I want flights with the most flexibility to do same-day change, cause when I'm deep in garotas pussy threesome, damn easier to extend the time by changing to later flights. Azul and Latam worked easier for me to make changes to the mobile phone. For Gol had to visit the CGH airport service desk to change for my preferred time to depart. And other considerations include bilingual staff when stuff goes wrong, and flights are canceled. In my opinion, Gol had the least bilingual speakers at CGH and SDU airports. Azul was great. The flight reminded me of Jetblue. Aisle and window 2-2 configuration. Latam was like a friggin bus station, which sucks when it's raining in Rio. There a floods everywhere especially in the center is a mess.

For most flexibility same-day changes, frequency of options between SDU and CGH, and a few more bilingual speakers Azul has been a good choice for my needs. YMMV and your experience will vary too!

Just sharing how I roll.

Few things wished I knew about Scandallo. After a while, I saw the same garotas over a few months. After banging them it's a bit awkward conversation a month later, how terrible they were in bed and will never repeat with her or her girlfriend again. They had the same conversation with me. The facefuck sex is too aggressive because messes up her makeup. Ruins her eyelashes, lipsticks, and fake blonde hair extensions. She said the other scandallo garotas gossip about my reputation for being, cheap, at are $800 reais, going at it for two hours. And how I never paid are $1000 to any chica in Scandallo. They enjoy the company, jokes, and food but the sex is too much unless two garotas same time. I thanked her for sharing the latest gossip. Moved on to the next new to Scandallo Cutie. It's been awkward trying to remember if the Garota I see that is attractive is new or if we banged in session on a previous visit. Truly don't remember without checking if her number comes up on wassap.

Things wish I knew about clinicas. Schedule the time in advance with my favorite garotas for a two-hour session booking. I like the four hands, and two garota offers in the clinical. Especially with the amateur porno stars and only fans collection of porn gals working a few days in different clinics. I learned to book two-hour sessions to have a relaxed time with two garotas. At the florists rate.

Going back to Rio tonight to meetup with the sexy attractive hood garotas, and another visit Monte Carlo.

[QUOTE=Tochka;2914440]

Wished I had known earlier about Lush Motel and how it works. [/QUOTE]Nice write. Where is this motel? I can't find it on google. How much did you pay for 3 hours and passport required?

[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2914455]Nice write. Where is this motel? I can't find it on google. How much did you pay for 3 hours and passport required?[/QUOTE]Lush Motel (unidade Ipiranga).

Av. Do Estado, 6600 - Vila Monumento, So Paulo. SP, 03105-000, Brazil.

I don't carry passport. I have color copy of the passport photo page. Office buildings security, Scandallo, short term hotels, TIM mobile to buy sim, have accepted it as ID. I inserted the copy into a laminated plastic that hold those stupid covid vaccine cards.

Lush The cost for each suite is different. Reais $300 to are $400 reais, foots on the website. Pay by credit card or cash. Credit card is easier. They have a touchscreen at the front entrance lists room themes type, water, spa, and 3, 6 , 12 hour time. The front desk was bilingual which helped during checkout. Has No problem with garotas arriving in uber. Sent her photo of the room number and garage door entrance, to reassure I was there. The gp-guia site with all the love motels is damn helpful. Thanks vagbundo for sharing that site earlier.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2914435]Yeah, keep it simple. So, if you're talking to a girl and your dick is hard then she must at least be a 7 on your personal optics scale hahaha! No need to over analyze LOL![/QUOTE]Can't argue with that! LOL.

Dang, Balboa, you are right tho. Have you tried Casarao on Sunday or Monday nights? They said its cowboy night on Sunday. I am going to go check it out, maybe bang a cutie in her cowboy boots.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2914326]Shaun we've all been there. Many times.

Back to Casarao tonite :)
Scandalo probably tomorrow to feel the nicer ambiance, and see what happens.
Ill go in tranquilo, after meeting up with the 19 year old sweety again beforehand.

Fique de boa![/QUOTE]

Tochka there are also PassPort cards you can get. In my wallet I carry the PP card and leave the original PP at my hotel safe. Lush is great. For Lush I like to go with two cuties, and watch them swim like two little dolphins LOL bang one, the other joins, the other goes back in the pool, while I continue with other. Its fun times.

[QUOTE=Tochka;2914470]Lush Motel (unidade Ipiranga).

Av. Do Estado, 6600 - Vila Monumento, So Paulo. SP, 03105-000, Brazil.

I don't carry passport. I have color copy of the passport photo page. Office buildings security, Scandallo, short term hotels, TIM mobile to buy sim, have accepted it as ID. I inserted the copy into a laminated plastic that hold those stupid covid vaccine cards.

Lush The cost for each suite is different. Reais $300 to are $400 reais, foots on the website. Pay by credit card or cash. Credit card is easier. They have a touchscreen at the front entrance lists room themes type, water, spa, and 3, 6 , 12 hour time. The front desk was bilingual which helped during checkout. Has No problem with garotas arriving in uber. Sent her photo of the room number and garage door entrance, to reassure I was there. The gp-guia site with all the love motels is damn helpful. Thanks vagbundo for sharing that site earlier.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2914498]Tochka there are also PassPort cards you can get. In my wallet I carry the PP card and leave the original PP at my hotel safe. Lush is great. For Lush I like to go with two cuties, and watch them swim like two little dolphins LOL bang one, the other joins, the other goes back in the pool, while I continue with other. Its fun times.[/QUOTE]Damn fucking-A good idea going to try that shit tonite with two garotas.

Wished I had known earlier just go to TIM store, buy fking SIM card with data 150 reais plan. No passport, no CPF. E-sim done. I went to the one in Rio, new store just opened last Friday. The service guy is bilingual. He installed e-sim paid by credit card, 20-30 min, Boom internet data immediately activated and done with a local phone number. Easy peasy. Now I can use the local phone number to get food discounts at Gedai japenese takeout. Plus all other junk spam text message offers. Sigh. How why'all M-Fers get my brazilian local number to spam me with useless offers in less than 1 HR of being activated.

Few things wished I knew about laundry. Always get an airbnb condo with laundry washer dryer in the apartment or in the building. It took a while to figure out the OmO laundry self service app, and instructions of how to pay for the laundry service. Gee whiz, complicated stupid cloud mobile apps just to do friggin laundry. Of course CPF needed. Hey dudes I need less apps in my life not more.

[QUOTE=Tochka;2914591]Damn fucking-A good idea going to try that shit tonite with two garotas.

Wished I had known earlier just go to TIM store, buy fking SIM card with data 150 reais plan. No passport, no CPF. E-sim done. I went to the one in Rio, new store just opened last Friday. The service guy is bilingual. He installed e-sim paid by credit card, 20-30 min, Boom internet data immediately activated and done with a local phone number. Easy peasy. Now I can use the local phone number to get food discounts at Gedai japenese takeout. Plus all other junk spam text message offers. [/QUOTE]How much data do you get with that plan? 5 g or 4 g?

[QUOTE=KcDark;2912974]To add on to this at Scandallo, if the girl speaks English, you are definitely paying the 1500 - 2000. Like some have stated in this thread, it might be a better option to chat up a girl you like through the night, see if her vibe is right, then meet her outside of the club. I've done this a couple of times and got more bang for my time and money. Of course, it depends on if you have the time or desire, to hang with a girl for an extended amount of time.[/QUOTE]Not for me. All the girls I took, spoke English and looked good. 7 or 8 and nver paid above 800 reals. Last one spoke English and claimed she was a student from Belo Horizonte. Like I cared. Went to the room and she connected to the bluetooth and played Travis Scott from her spotify play list. Rate 800 reals. Started from 1000 and got 800. I didn't want to bargain further as I wanted to call it a night.

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2914496]Dang, Balboa, you are right tho. Have you tried Casarao on Sunday or Monday nights? They said it’s cowboy night on Sunday. I am going to go check it out, maybe bang a cutie in her cowboy boots.[/QUOTE]I've been to Casarao every night of the week, Lol. Many times.

Been going for over 15 years now.

They don't even ask for my ID when entering, they just give me a, Boa noite Balboa, and my favorite bartender makes my preferred drink and asks for my card as soon as she spots me.

The other night I was in line to pay my Tab and take a girl to the hotel next door.

One of the manager guys waved me by the line and said I could pay up later, after the fun.

I'm not special really, just been going there for a long time and I'm friendly with the staff.

Good people.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2914739]I've been to Casarao every night of the week, Lol. Many times.

Been going for over 15 years now.

They don't even ask for my ID when entering, they just give me a, Boa noite Balboa, and my favorite bartender makes my preferred drink and asks for my card as soon as she spots me.

The other night I was in line to pay my Tab and take a girl to the hotel next door.

One of the manager guys waved me by the line and said I could pay up later, after the fun.

I'm not special really, just been going there for a long time and I'm friendly with the staff.

Good people.[/QUOTE]Yeah I am not sure Casarao gets enough love here. Sure it's a huge step down from Scandallo and like 99.9% locals but that can be to your adv as well. There are gems to be found. This is where I snagged Mya the TEN. Only second ten ever in my life (other was in Madrid) and here she was at Casarao asking 600 for the hour (we ended up overnight at my place for 1200). And fuck that girl was fine. I say being a gringo can be an advantage because Mya and her friend were the hottest two girls in the place. And they came up to me and Mark and engaged! I guess they either like the tall gringos or their wallets. Great girl. She's ready to travel with me but Manu from Rio has been my go to.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2914751]Yeah I am not sure Casarao gets enough love here. Sure it's a huge step down from Scandallo and like 99.9% locals but that can be to your adv as well. There are gems to be found. This is where I snagged Mya the TEN. Only second ten ever in my life (other was in Madrid) and here she was at Casarao asking 600 for the hour (we ended up overnight at my place for 1200). And fuck that girl was fine. I say being a gringo can be an advantage because Mya and her friend were the hottest two girls in the place. And they came up to me and Mark and engaged! I guess they either like the tall gringos or their wallets. Great girl. She's ready to travel with me but Manu from Rio has been my go to.[/QUOTE]I love and enjoy Brazil! I'm in SP now. Was planning to hop over to Rio, however, SP has taken a hold of me! Again, LOL.

I'm a strange cat for sure, though.

Even though I visit at times Scandallo, I'm not the big fan like most guys here.

I enjoy exploring the lower to mid range venues and finding the gems.

My plan was to hit Scandallo last night though.
Hadnt been there in a bit. Just to relax and see the show of girls.

During the day I met up with a couple girls that I had met at the lower end spot.

Young (18/19), sweet, beautiful and eager.

And 500 reais to them is a treasure chest, LOL.

Anyway, I was a bit tired after all that.

My hotel is about a 10 min walk to Casarao, so I blew off Scandallo and decided to just pop into Casarao at opening, have a drink, and watch the girls arrive for work.

Just to chill a bit, then split and get some rest.

However, sitting on the couch, a sexy red head magrinha arrived and began dancing sexy and sultry in front of me, her back to me.

Thin, but with a nice little curve for a booty. Beautiful face. A young Nicole Kidman looking girl, but more sultry.

She had me hypnotized with her sway.

She eventually saw me admiring her, gave me a sweet Boa noite amor, and I knew I was hooked, LOL.

After buying her a drink and chatting a bit, I told her that I was tired, but really enjoyed her company and sexy beauty.

She suggested a nice massage in the room.

She was such a cool and sweet girl. Talking about her studies, her trying to learn english, which was so cute and sexy her accent.

I wanted to help her out, and just loved being with her, and i accepted the massage offer.

She literally said that I could pay her whatever I wanted for the hour.

To the room we went.

I'll skip all the details, but damnnn, what a sensual girl.

She got my motor running again during the massage, and one of the best oral sex (BBBJ) experiences of my life.

I could have finished with that, and I told her that, however, I needed to feel her, and I'm glad I did.

I woke up from the dead, LOL, no viagra, nada. She was my stimulate, and she got me to the peak.

Crazy, unexpected, great!

Lot of girls I would never choose in Casarao, however, there are definitely some diamonds in the house.

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2912755]Has anyone received the same request as this. Two days, I go I contacted one on ClubModel. She asked me to send her a photo of me and she only wanted to do incall. She didn't want to come to hotel spot. I didn't send any photo's. Heck to the no. What are your thoughts?[/QUOTE]ClubModel and other so called 'high end' provider sites are largely worthless in SP. Most will ask for a photo, deposit, or other nonsense a seasoned monger would never consider. Their GPgiua reviews also tend to be weak for price-value ratio. I have fared far better with the photoacompanhantes, which is in itself not a walk in the park by a long stretch.

[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2912332]Just wrapped another extended stay in SP. Here is the report.

Scandallo: went here on the first night I arrived, with a wingman I linked up here. I would rate the women here at 8-8. 5 on my book. They are fine, but just not really my type. I don't like too much makeup and perfume, which seems to be the theme with 8 out of 10 goratas here. I did not find the quality justify 1,500-2,000 they quoted me. My wingman went with a hot blonde for 1,500. He enjoyed it, said it was good. But the girl had piercings on her nipples so he did not like. This is a lesson for us to learn some Brazilian so we can ask before decided to go in.


To sum up: prime and miruna are my fav. Tangara and Yankin if you want to save some money. Excuse typos. Fun mongering.[/QUOTE]Nice report. I do agree, I also increasingly find Scandallo to be more style than substance as I grow older. I tend to prefer the more natural simplicity you find in less glitzy places.

Ola gentlemen,

Can anyone ID where the photo in attachment was taken? I am doing my homework for SP and a older post stated that this place has many attractive women, like 9's and 10's.

The poster didn't mention where in the right context. So let's see if the internet can do the wonder.

I will also be making a post in the travel announcement page if anyone wants to meet up in SP.

[QUOTE=Latinasloveme;2915393]Ola gentlemen,

Can anyone ID where the photo in attachment was taken? I am doing my homework for SP and a older post stated that this place has many attractive women, like 9's and 10's.

The poster didn't mention where in the right context. So let's see if the internet can do the wonder.

I will also be making a post in the travel announcement page if anyone wants to meet up in SP.[/QUOTE]If it has a lot of 9's and 10's, it is probably Scandello. Much has been written about it here and it is "paradise on earth" for mongers. Enjoy and do post a report.

I know it since 2013 and always brownish, cocoa, cream colors in the interiors.

If you attach the pic without any change, there may be useful metadata to check, and lucky enough the cell may have inserted GPS information. For the content I see a pair of flip flops (havaianas) in the shower background.

[QUOTE=Latinasloveme;2915393]Ola gentlemen,

Can anyone ID where the photo in attachment was taken? I am doing my homework for SP and a older post stated that this place has many attractive women, like 9's and 10's.

The poster didn't mention where in the right context. So let's see if the internet can do the wonder.

I will also be making a post in the travel announcement page if anyone wants to meet up in SP.[/QUOTE]

Posted this in the wrong thread earlier.

I'm planning a trip to monger. There's enough info here to keep me more or less busy in the evenings but I'm wondering what the more experienced members recommend for a first trip. I can't go multiple times a night and I can't go more than 3 or 4 nights in a row until the mongering even gets old. Aside from maybe Senna's grave and museum I can't think of a single thing I want to do there aside f4 om eat. Based on Steve's reports alone SP ended up on my bucket list but how long is enough? Are any weeknights actually dead in the clubs or does it not matter?

[QUOTE=Latinasloveme;2915393]Ola gentlemen,

Can anyone ID where the photo in attachment was taken? I am doing my homework for SP and a older post stated that this place has many attractive women, like 9's and 10's.

The poster didn't mention where in the right context. So let's see if the internet can do the wonder.

I will also be making a post in the travel announcement page if anyone wants to meet up in SP.[/QUOTE]That looks like a love motel, a higher end one. Definitely not Scandallo.

I was in Scandallo recently. Have not been in Bomboa and Casarao. How do these three compare?

[QUOTE=FilthyBeaver;2915686]Posted this in the wrong thread earlier.

I'm planning a trip to monger. There's enough info here to keep me more or less busy in the evenings but I'm wondering what the more experienced members recommend for a first trip. I can't go multiple times a night and I can't go more than 3 or 4 nights in a row until the mongering even gets old. Aside from maybe Senna's grave and museum I can't think of a single thing I want to do there aside f4 om eat. Based on Steve's reports alone SP ended up on my bucket list but how long is enough? Are any weeknights actually dead in the clubs or does it not matter?[/QUOTE]It doesn't matter Rio or SP but I feel your pain. I usually arrive on a Wednesday or Thursday and party all the way to Sunday and stop for a few days. But I've partied hard, drinking very late 2 girls at a time etc, living the life then I might go to Buzios for a couple of days and just rest at a nice beach, come back Wednesday or Thursday and start over again till I drop. If you have limited time then it takes 11 or 12 days and then I'm good. But if I was you I’d go to Rio instead of SP so at least you’d have the beach to fill your time.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2914729]How much data do you get with that plan? 5 g or 4 g?[/QUOTE]The online TIM account says 17 Gb of data in the package. The internet speed and connectivity has been very good. I used 13 Gb for the past few weeks.

E-sim has worked like a charm in Rio and SP.

Arrived at CGH airport with plans to take an Uber directly to Scandallo. The plan is to bounce back and forth between Rio and SP depending on the session with the garotoas. Easy to change flights on Azul.

I stopped by Gendai sushi for delicious Asian food. While digging into Sushi, Temakis and Pokes had a strange urge to get an asian blowjob to go with the sushi.

Luckily for me, so Paulo has loads of options. I scrolled through WhatsApp to find this exotic half-Japanese garota I met in Scandallo last time. Sure enough, she excitedly responds with her availability for the next hour or two, after she gets off work.

Her office is some fancy pants office financial building on Av Paulista.

She can meet in an hour after work around 8 pm. We agreed to are $800 reais until exhaustion almost pernoite.

I text her the location of the Lush motel address. Lush is 10 minute Uber ride from Scandallo. The suites are much better, bigger and nice than scandallo. I send a photo of the cabin, number with the garage door lowered half way.

Sometime those uber guys want to drive all the way into the garage. Prefer they drop off the garotas in front of the cabin. The garota can duck her head underneath the half open garage door to meet me at the stairs.

The Brazilian Japanese garota arrives on time. She sent wassap live location to track her arrival.

She arrives, gets out of the car wearing droopy, plain office worker clothing. WTF. - where is that drunken exotic Japanese hottie from Scandallo?

I think it was Nounce or Alex Hyest not sure, said this a couple of years ago. Push all the Scandallo chicas into a pool. When they get out with washed-off makeup, dresses, fake eyelashes, and hair some of them will look like normal garotas you see every day.

She is cute, innocent shy GND type, but her plain sterile office clothes was zero, zip, zilch on the IoP scale.

She walks into the suite, drops the coat, unveiled underneath a hot red G-string bikini and nothing else. Damn gal fooled me.

She has a young smoking-hot body. It was curvy sexy scene straight out of a Khloe Kardashian, fur coat with G-string bikini, moment.

Brazilian garota time vs Dominican chica time.

So far my experience has been time warp. The Brasilian garotas have shown up on time for our dates, sometimes arriving early or late due to traffic. They send a message, on their way or a few cancelled with a clever lie. At least the ones I met told me they were going to cancel because of blah. Blah. Blah.

On Mother's Day Sunday, I scheduled eight Brasilian garotas at Panda Hotel. Six of eight showed up on time, one cancel, one arrived early because moto is a faster ride on Sundays.

Dominican chicas are the WORST at showing up on time. I have no clue what they mean "on my way" it means they are still home in cocina cooking meal. "I called an uber" means they still sleeping after drinking too many presidential beers last night. "I am close by" means she is at home on the instagram or tiktok lazily scrolling through iphones videos, and luxury clothing videos cause she has no data on the road.

"I arrived" means she and two other of her amigas hopped off the Uber Motoconcho to my place because she didn't bother to say she is bringing her girlfriends when I expected and planned only her.

Dominican chicas arrive two or three hours late thinking they are on time and ask why are you tripping?

The Brazilian garotas I met are on time, bring good weed, aspend their own money on the ubemoto to arrive, and share their private porno threesome videos.

Dominican chicas are three hours late, never show up on the agreed time, cancel with the most stupid lies ever. Expect you to pay uber indriver car to arrive and uber car to leave when her ass is taking the metro or hoping on motoconcho.

YMMV Your experience may vary, this is mine. Brasiliana garotas have been a refreshing change of pace about meeting up on time.

[QUOTE=Tochka;2916423]The online TIM account says 17 Gb of data in the package. The internet speed and connectivity has been very good. I used 13 Gb for the past few weeks.

E-sim has worked like a charm in Rio and SP.[/QUOTE]If you download an e-Sim, do you still need a physical SIM in your phone? I guess you do. If the other SIM is one you can't afford to lose (be stolen) a local physical SIM is the way to go.

[QUOTE=XXL;2918022]If you download an e-Sim, do you still need a physical SIM in your phone? I guess you do. If the other SIM is one you can't afford to lose (be stolen) a local physical SIM is the way to go.[/QUOTE]If you have an eSIM, you don't need a physical sim. If you lose your phone, you lose all sims. Physical or digital. You will need to call your provider to shut down the eSIM and get a replacement. The new iphones don't have physical sims anyway. So one line is your home line and one line you can use for travel.

Lounge entrance =500 BR = 300 you may consume + 200 entrance, rooms at upper storey 70 for 1 HR, 1000 for serv Gabriella 20 yrs slim fit photo attached After 7 pm she charges 2000 br but since I was reluctant, she offered happy hour rate of 1000. Excellent sex exercise in all positions, DFK. Excellent room with A / see, hot water shower, alarm at the end of 1 HR. Post round 1 veiled away time in excellent restaurant fairly resonable rates to consume 300 BR, offered some cocktail to Nay and booked her for next day to my hotel Paid 100 to miss NAY as advance booking for next day outcall. By mistake offered 1500 , should have offered 1000 , Compared to FKK, this is comparable, and more or less similar in cost!

Guys, what brand of condoms you buy in Brazil? I run out of condoms in SP haha.

[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2918209]Guys, what brand of condoms you buy in Brazil? I run out of condoms in SP haha.[/QUOTE]If you are comfortable with the condom that the clinicas use, they are free at Metro station. They also have female condom there.

[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2918209]Guys, what brand of condoms you buy in Brazil? I run out of condoms in SP haha.[/QUOTE]Chemists' had Sagamis under the brand "Preserve". Or so I thought until I found out they were fake Sagamis. Cheap latex, not polyurethane.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2918090]If you have an eSIM, you don't need a physical sim. If you lose your phone, you lose all sims. Physical or digital. You will need to call your provider to shut down the eSIM and get a replacement. The new iphones don't have physical sims anyway. So one line is your home line and one line you can use for travel.[/QUOTE]Thank you. I read this on the internet though: "All Brazilian phone services for foreigners require an in-store visit where your ID is verified".

So it's back to square one, ie visit the store and show you ID etc. In that case it little matters whether the SIM is an eSIM or not. It only matters if the slots in your smartphone are full, but who likes to walk around in Brazil with a phone full of non Brazilian SIMs that risk getting stolen?

Its no comparison with Dominican women in Brasilian garotas. Its night and day. Last time I went to DR was 18 years ago and for good reason. Everything you said, plus most of them fuck lazy, lay on their backs, no work. Brasilian garotas are the opposite + GFE + great vibe + everything you said. SP has the best variety versus other parts like Flor or Porte Algre. In my opinion.

[QUOTE=Tochka;2918011]

Dominican chicas are the WORST at showing up on time. I have no clue what they mean "on my way" it means they are still home in cocina cooking meal. "I called an uber" means they still sleeping after drinking too many presidential beers last night. "I am close by" means she is at home on the instagram or tiktok lazily scrolling through iphones videos, and luxury clothing videos cause she has no data on the road.

"I arrived" means she and two other of her amigas hopped off the Uber Motoconcho to my place because she didn't bother to say she is bringing her girlfriends when I expected and planned only her.

Dominican chicas arrive two or three hours late thinking they are on time and ask why are you tripping?

The Brazilian garotas I met are on time, bring good weed, aspend their own money on the ubemoto to arrive, and share their private porno threesome videos.

Dominican chicas are three hours late, never show up on the agreed time, cancel with the most stupid lies ever. Expect you to pay uber indriver car to arrive and uber car to leave when her ass is taking the metro or hoping on motoconcho.

YMMV Your experience may vary, this is mine. Brasiliana garotas have been a refreshing change of pace about meeting up on time.[/QUOTE]

If you run out, just go RAW LOL just go to local pharmacy and ask for "camisinha fina para foder".

[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2918209]Guys, what brand of condoms you buy in Brazil? I run out of condoms in SP haha.[/QUOTE]

Typically, I just get a burner phone when I arrive. You will need someone who is local to sign off with their local ID. So for helping me get a burner phone, then I gift them the phone I got. 100% of time their happy to receive it. Plus all the hot garota contacts LOL.

[QUOTE=XXL;2918369]Thank you. I read this on the internet though: "All Brazilian phone services for foreigners require an in-store visit where your ID is verified".

So it's back to square one, ie visit the store and show you ID etc. In that case it little matters whether the SIM is an eSIM or not. It only matters if the slots in your smartphone are full, but who likes to walk around in Brazil with a phone full of non Brazilian SIMs that risk getting stolen?[/QUOTE]

I will once again recommend Google Fi as awesome. No futzing around with Sims and phones and IDs. Just WORKs in 220 countries.

If you have the budget do $70/ month plan. This is unlimited data everywhere. To me a drop in the bucket in my girl spend. But if you don't just get their $20/ mo plan and $10/ gB and watch ur data use. You can also pause any time if you aren't traveling. It's been a godsend in the fucking hotties department! .

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2918461]I will once again recommend Google Fi as awesome. No futzing around with Sims and phones and IDs. Just WORKs in 220 countries.

If you have the budget do $70/ month plan. This is unlimited data everywhere. To me a drop in the bucket in my girl spend. But if you don't just get their $20/ mo plan and $10/ gB and watch ur data use. You can also pause any time if you aren't traveling. It's been a godsend in the fucking hotties department! .[/QUOTE]Like Steve I am also a big fan of the GoogleFi. I have it as a second esim in my iPhone and it works great all over the world.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2918461][b]I will once again recommend Google Fi as awesome. No futzing around with Sims and phones and IDs. Just WORKs in 220 countries.[/b]

If you have the budget do $70/ month plan. This is unlimited data everywhere. To me a drop in the bucket in my girl spend. But if you don't [b]just get their $20/ mo plan and $10/ gB and watch ur data use. You can also pause any time if you aren't traveling[/b]. It's been a godsend in the fucking hotties department! .[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sloninger;2918544][b]Like Steve I am also a big fan of the GoogleFi[/b]. [u]I have it as a second esim in my iPhone[/u][b] and it works great all over the world.[/b][/QUOTE]I agree with both.

Soon as the plane lands phone on, service on!!

Recommend Google Fi to all ([URL]https://fi.google.com/[/url]).

There are other services as well such as Airalo [URL]https://www.airalo.com/[/URL].

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2918461]I will once again recommend Google Fi as awesome. No futzing around with Sims and phones and IDs. Just WORKs in 220 countries.

If you have the budget do $70/ month plan. This is unlimited data everywhere. To me a drop in the bucket in my girl spend. But if you don't just get their $20/ mo plan and $10/ gB and watch ur data use. You can also pause any time if you aren't traveling. It's been a godsend in the fucking hotties department! .[/QUOTE]No doubt Google Fi is the best if you are headquartered in the USA and are making multiple trips. Thing is if you are out of the USA for 3 months, google can and will shut off your cellular service. It was frustrating to me that the phone I got my gal quit working.

AT&T has a Latin American plan that allows unlimited everything for like $75 a month, but unlike Google Fi, it is confined to just the Americas. So I switched to it, and it works just as well as Google Fi but you do not have that shut off feature.

It is nice that we have more choices of plans, and I hope they keep coming.

Think fellas asked about this in an earlier thread.

Brasilian porno actriz Larinha Small is back at the clinica.

Dayum!

Still, my original favorite is the porno duplo with Ariella Ferraz and Karen at Prime or the duplo session with Ariella and Larinha at Tangara or in Moah.

Seems like the porno season is starting for Garotas.

Never thought until this trip to simply ask them to introduce me to other Brazilian porno actriz. Duh!

I try to find them when they do a couple of days Clinica visit and not book them as an expensive escort hour session at a no-tell motel.

A young attractive, golden blonde-haired university student in my wassap contacts Ubers over to Lush sex motel.

She arrives with a Fergie model-looking, skinny, pale, attractive redhead chica, she brings decent weed for a change, a huge bag of sex toys, and her laptop bag. WTF need a laptop for? Our duplo threesome session is as imagined.

Two and a half hours later, I'm done, exhausted need a brief recharge time.

Those young garotas still have more energy to go.

She walks over to the 360 sex swing set in the other room. She pulls out her laptop to log in to the CameraPrive site. After starting the live video session the two garotas go down on each other with weird toy shit, anal licking porno style video, fisting, rimming, and other double-ended sex toy stuff for 20 min.

Man, those horn-dog guys who will never visit Brasil are paying the bank per minute. The garotas wrap up. Shut down the laptop and session.

Guess they needed the good internet, mood lighting and a 360 spinning sex swing with straps.

Made sure to not be anywhere in the same room or on camera.

It was the first time I saw how the garotas set everything up, chat with online clients, go through performance, and get paid.

They wrapped up the online live stuff in 30 minutes. By that time I was recharged ready for another session.

Your experience may vary YMMV, your everything might be different for you. Cannot share their wassap or screen name at their request.

[QUOTE=XXL;2918369]Thank you. I read this on the internet though: "All Brazilian phone services for foreigners require an in-store visit where your ID is verified".

So it's back to square one, ie visit the store and show you ID etc. In that case it little matters whether the SIM is an eSIM or not. It only matters if the slots in your smartphone are full, but who likes to walk around in Brazil with a phone full of non Brazilian SIMs that risk getting stolen?[/QUOTE]That is not true. You can register by phone or online. It has been mentioned many times here on how to do it. I have Google Fi too but I have never turned it on ever.

Tochka. You right up my ally on this one. I have had a few sessions with porn stars who also did the cam thang. My experience, I bought a lucha libre mask, looking like Eddie Guerrero, off the top rope dropping my dick in her mouth. They love the theatrics. I banged Luiza Marcato on cam like that. Dunno if she even has the video up, but, she did it for a live session. She made more money on her video live then with me at Lush motel LOL she can take a the. I was worn out.

[QUOTE=Tochka;2919288]Think fellas asked about this in an earlier thread.

Brasilian porno actriz Larinha Small is back at the clinica.

Dayum!

Still, my original favorite is the porno duplo with Ariella Ferraz and Karen at Prime or the duplo session with Ariella and Larinha at Tangara or in Moah.

Seems like the porno season is starting for Garotas.

Never thought until this trip to simply ask them to introduce me to other Brazilian porno actriz. Duh!

I try to find them when they do a couple of days Clinica visit and not book them as an expensive escort hour session at a no-tell motel.

A young attractive, golden blonde-haired university student in my wassap contacts Ubers over to Lush sex motel.

She arrives with a Fergie model-looking, skinny, pale, attractive redhead chica, she brings decent weed for a change, a huge bag of sex toys, and her laptop bag. WTF need a laptop for? Our duplo threesome session is as imagined.

Two and a half hours later, I'm done, exhausted need a brief recharge time.

Those young garotas still have more energy to go.

She walks over to the 360 sex swing set in the other room. She pulls out her laptop to log in to the CameraPrive site. After starting the live video session the two garotas go down on each other with weird toy shit, anal licking porno style video, fisting, rimming, and other double-ended sex toy stuff for 20 min.

Man, those horn-dog guys who will never visit Brasil are paying the bank per minute. The garotas wrap up. Shut down the laptop and session.

Guess they needed the good internet, mood lighting and a 360 spinning sex swing with straps.

Made sure to not be anywhere in the same room or on camera.

It was the first time I saw how the garotas set everything up, chat with online clients, go through performance, and get paid.

They wrapped up the online live stuff in 30 minutes. By that time I was recharged ready for another session.

Your experience may vary YMMV, your everything might be different for you. Cannot share their wassap or screen name at their request.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2919449]Tochka. You right up my ally on this one. I have had a few sessions with porn stars who also did the cam thang. My experience, I bought a lucha libre mask, looking like Eddie Guerrero, off the top rope dropping my dick in her mouth. They love the theatrics. I banged Luiza Marcato on cam like that. Dunno if she even has the video up, but, she did it for a live session. She made more money on her video live then with me at Lush motel LOL she can take a the. I was worn out.[/QUOTE]Cool idea to wear lucha libre mask. Might give it a try someday. Its added to the bucket, do one anonymous scene in a brasilian amateur cam porno haha, . Nawh dog its not me, sumbody got the same tats, swear ya honor that mofo ain't me. Haha I friggin salute you.

I'm going to stick to mother-daughter sessions, (and that's getting too freaky weird), banging out threesome sessions with Brasilia porno queens, anal Cam garotas with her toys, and eyes wide-shut private parties.

And the most strangest fking look I get everyday is asking for change of $100 reais bill. Rsrd hahaha nevermind.

Booked her for outcall to my apartment while veiling away time in scandello lounge by offering her drink. Soon she opened up for outcall next day by paying 100 Brl as token!! By mistake aggreed to pay on Friday 1500 + 300 Taxi to Hotel apartment. By mistake paid more could have saved 500 like previ day with gabrielle. Rendezvous with her out of blue, very mature of 27 yrs very slim curvy, loving with unlimited DFK, except anal all positions changing all throughout suite. Money well spent, next day she a enquires again whether I am available for reduced rates!

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2913971]Most Scandallo girls that ask 1500-2000 are high quality tier 1. If I like / want the girl, I will counter with 1/2 of her offer and will go as high as 1/2 + 200. This approach has only failed me 1 time and there were extenuating circumstances for that lone one time: while I was interviewing the girl over a drink, her GF had lined up 3 VIP Brazilians waiting for her in the wings with open bottles of liquor, so the girl had little incentive to accept my counter. But except for that one time, really hot tier 1's have always quoted me in the 1500-2000 range, say 2000 and I always countered with 1000 and we always settled on 1000 or 1200.

Most tier 2 Scandallo girls will ask 1200 or far, far less. I apply roughly the same approach as with tier 1's and counter with half and I am willing to settle for 1/2 + 200. So if a tier 2 l asks 800, I will counter with 600 or 700 (not 400), and if I like the girl I am even willing to accept her 800 original. Nothing is set in stone. My main point here is that I have never paid more than 800 for a pretty Scandallo girl next door type.
[/QUOTE]What's your approach when negotiating overnights at your place?

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2920767]What's your approach when negotiating overnights at your place?[/QUOTE]Great question, Miami, because there are many different approaches to successfully negotiating an overnight with a new boate girl let alone navigating the SP Boate scene and getting what you want. It ain't hard. Many boate girls, if not most girls, are available to be taken out of the club rather than to be stuck there all night long although as always YMMV from girl to girl.

My approach is simple: I never consider takeout with a new girl. My first time with a boate girl is always ST and in-house. The only exception to this approach is when I am at Casarao, because I really dislike using their adjacent ST hotel. Everywhere else I am happy to initially get it on in-house and after the first boom boom session, if I really like the girl, I will exchange what'sup #'s with her, and we take it from there. Sometimes nothing happens and I never see the girl or have sex with her again, sometimes I continue to see the girl in-house a few more times, and once in a while I find I have "keeper," a girl I really like, and we move our new relationship outside the club permanently. The key here is I am in no hurry to jump into anything with these girls. Overnights have their advantages, sure, but they are not a consideration for me unless it is with girls I already know and really like. Truth be told I am more into sequential 2-fers, ie doing 2 boate girls separately, one at a time, ST, in-house rather than having a LT with 1 girl, although it does depend on the girl.

I agree to. "negotiating overnights" sounds like a great title for a bossa nova song. I don't think I ever negotiated overnights, its something that's mutually agreed up, either she does or doesn't. But like Alex said, I also never do overnights on day 1. Normally, if I seen her on the second time or third time, I'll simply say, "Stay overnight" and she'll say, "Great, I brought my bag just in case you had asked" LMAO that's really how it goes 99% of the time. There those 1% exceptions on the first meet, but, that's only after you both banged out hard and she is all over you and you want her to stay.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2920859]Great question, Miami, because there are many different approaches to successfully negotiating an overnight with a new boate girl let alone navigating the SP Boate scene and getting what you want. It ain't hard. Many boate girls, if not most girls, are available to be taken out of the club rather than to be stuck there all night long although as always YMMV from girl to girl.
[/QUOTE]

It has been about a decade and a half since my last visit to SP. Most likely the single most enjoyable sexual encounter in my life occurred in SP, so I have fond memories. I am arriving tomorrow evening, and am confronted with two obstacles. First, I was in the Foto, etc era, it seems that the "go-to" club now is Scandellos. I am assuming that on site there is possible. Which leads to the second obstacle. Due to a change in the recent corporate policy, I will be staying in a hotel located near the GRU airport. The distance into the "fun zone" is a pain in the butt to be sure. I am just trying to get some guidance on places for fun and frolicking in that area. Massage shops, clinicas, etc. Any information is appreciated.

As far as Scandellos, is there a preferred time to visit? I have read back numerous pages and have some feel for pricing, but less so for timing or what are realistic expectations as far as ladies on site are concerned.

Any other suggestions are welcomed and I will give a hearty "Thank you in advance" for any advice.

[QUOTE=SkyRyder;2920920]It has been about a decade and a half since my last visit to SP. Most likely the single most enjoyable sexual encounter in my life occurred in SP, so I have fond memories. I am arriving tomorrow evening, and am confronted with two obstacles. First, I was in the Foto, etc era, it seems that the "go-to" club now is Scandellos. I am assuming that on site there is possible. Which leads to the second obstacle. Due to a change in the recent corporate policy, I will be staying in a hotel located near the GRU airport. The distance into the "fun zone" is a pain in the butt to be sure. I am just trying to get some guidance on places for fun and frolicking in that area. Massage shops, clinicas, etc. Any information is appreciated.

As far as Scandellos, is there a preferred time to visit? I have read back numerous pages and have some feel for pricing, but less so for timing or what are realistic expectations as far as ladies on site are concerned.

Any other suggestions are welcomed and I will give a hearty "Thank you in advance" for any advice.[/QUOTE]Yea Scandallo is a bit of a haul from GRU but totally worth it. Nothing worth its salt up near GRU. And any man that gets within 2 hrs of Scandallo and doesn't make the pilgrimage needs his man card revoked. It's THE best club on planet earth. Make the time and effort.

If you have some coin I'the go early and go to the room twice. Go before 7 and avoid the cover. Have dinner and soak it up. Deflect all approaches first hour. I mean you can chat but don't go to room. Savor it. Make a wise pick. Then go fuck a hottie. Come back down and have a drink or two and recharge and go again. And stumble back to your hotel in the wee hours.

That is my strong advice based on my worldwide experience.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2920859]Great question, [/QUOTE]You skipped the most important part which is what I think he is asking.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2920995]Yea Scandallo is a bit of a haul from GRU but totally worth it. Nothing worth its salt up near GRU. And any man that gets within 2 hrs of Scandallo and doesn't make the pilgrimage needs his man card revoked. It's THE best club on planet earth. Make the time and effort.

If you have some coin I'the go early and go to the room twice. Go before 7 and avoid the cover. Have dinner and soak it up. Deflect all approaches first hour. I mean you can chat but don't go to room. Savor it. Make a wise pick. Then go fuck a hottie. Come back down and have a drink or two and recharge and go again. And stumble back to your hotel in the wee hours. [/QUOTE]Hey Steve, I was going to suggest something along similar lines myself, but then I realized that what we are talking about; that is hanging out at Scandallo all night, doing a couple of girls in-house with dinner and plenty of drinks in between, and then heading back to the hotel around 3 am for a couple of hours sleep before hooking up with straight laced business associates. This plan could work well for someone relatively young and in good physical shape. For me, 4 or 5 nights in a row with 6 hours & 2 girls in Scandallo, and only 3 hours sleep would pretty much finish me off as productive business associate. KKK.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2920995]Yea Scandallo is a bit of a haul from GRU but totally worth it. Nothing worth its salt up near GRU. And any man that gets within 2 hrs of Scandallo and doesn't make the pilgrimage needs his man card revoked. It's THE best club on planet earth. Make the time and effort.

If you have some coin I'the go early and go to the room twice. Go before 7 and avoid the cover. Have dinner and soak it up. Deflect all approaches first hour. I mean you can chat but don't go to room. Savor it. Make a wise pick. Then go fuck a hottie. Come back down and have a drink or two and recharge and go again. And stumble back to your hotel in the wee hours.

That is my strong advice based on my worldwide experience.[/QUOTE]Plus 1 on a Scandallo visit if you're within a couple of hours.

While partying hard in Rio, I took the one-hour flight from SDU airport to CGH for $100 -$120 bucks round trip fare. It's easy Uber Comfort or Uber black ride from CGH airport direct to scandallo club.

It took me about 22 to 30 min to travel there depending on traffic, to arrive before 7 pm.

At Scandallo party my ass off, drinking whiskey, doing combo garotas sessions. Japa, Branca, morenas, redheads, blondes, negra, skinny, with curvy bunda, GND, newbies to GDP, delicious dinner with sexy companions until close, or get locked in againhaha.

At closing time take scandallo garotas to Lush sex motel nearby. It is only 10 min Uber ride.

Lush suites are damn nice! Much better rooms than Scandallo. I stay at Lush doing two chicas garotas until exhaustion or morning.

Kick them out by mid-morning.

Early morning grab the phone, to start scheduling on wassap noon appointments for duplo sessions with two or three favorite garotas at Prime, Tangara, Spa Moema, miruna,57 friends, and Yankin.

Uber from Lush to the clinicas, arriving in Moema around noon for the first clinica session, walking around Moema to the other clinicas, doing scheduled appointment visits, and going to the villa marina clinicas.

It's a 10-15 minute Uber ride from Moema to CGH airport. One hour's flight later arrive at SDU airport.

The Uber spot at SDU airport has amazing views on clear days. It's like taking a bus trip between these two convenient airports.

Flights run every 20 min or 30 min. I choose the fare to easily change the departure time leaving CGH to SDU airport.

Fellas cannot tell how many, countless times I changed to later flights on the app because my horny ass is in a great IoP session with a new-to-me young Garota. Ya got to get the girl now! Now! Don't wait until next time or to peek at her during some other presentation. Session with her now and extend the time if you hit off right away. Don't hesitate, don't wait don't be late, if she floats your boat guaranteed other guys like her too. Besides I may grab her first you ain't going to see her and her girlfriend for the next three hours -Rsrs haha. It's Nice to extend time with Garotas in Escandallo or at the clinica for a few more hours. I take a later flight just by tapping a later flight in the airline app.

No need to rush a good porno session experience. I am still trying to hook up again with an Abbobara Clinica blonde garota I missed out on as a repeat a year ago. Our schedule don't lineup for a year. And two years for Scandallo Garota repeat because she travels to London Spain Dubai, and Switzerland. I need a hood favela garota that ain't going to travel so much on the escandallo money-haha.

Anyhow Arriving at SDU airport is easy peasy, and taking Uber direct to Monte Carlo or Soloario or other Termas. At the Termas bang away until close.

After closing, no problem taking two Termas garotas over to Panda Motel in Botafogo.

Bang them out in different combos until morning, then kick them out of Panda early morning.

I got to start scheduling on wassap the morning duplo session with Prives and Spas in Centro, darkroom, duda, emperio, and a dozen other ones post the team lineup.

Of course, since I'm already in Botafogo, got to stop by Eden in Copacabana for a mid-morning 10.30 or 11 am session on the way to Centro.

Rinse and repeat with a late afternoon flight back to Escandallo the same day or the next day depending on the garota hookup available.

YMMV your experience may vary, your routine may vary, and your flight experience will be different. Your traffic, airfare price, airport, and quality of session will be different, sharing mine and how I like to roll.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2920995]Yea Scandallo is a bit of a haul from GRU but totally worth it. Nothing worth its salt up near GRU. And any man that gets within 2 hrs of Scandallo and doesn't make the pilgrimage needs his man card revoked. It's THE best club on planet earth. Make the time and effort.

If you have some coin I'the go early and go to the room twice. Go before 7 and avoid the cover. Have dinner and soak it up. Deflect all approaches first hour. I mean you can chat but don't go to room. Savor it. Make a wise pick. Then go fuck a hottie. Come back down and have a drink or two and recharge and go again. And stumble back to your hotel in the wee hours.

That is my strong advice based on my worldwide experience.[/QUOTE]I am always happy when one and in this case two "someone's" reply to my question with unequivocal advice. It does remove all trepidation of a course of action. My appreciation to the both of you for the spectacular reply to my humble question. I won't be able to make the pre-7:00 arrival on my first night, but will absolutely do that on the second. I will make it a point to fill in the blank spaces after my visit!

Sounds like I might need a good massage to work out the "kinks" after an evening in Scandellos. I had no idea what the travel time might be, so that mystery is resolved. Of course there is no way to account for traffic. Also nice to know that Uber is a reliable transportation option. Three am is not an option, but I am confident I can complete my quest well before the witching hour!

Best,

Sky!

Finally planning on my long awaited maiden voyage to Brazil. I plan on doing a full week in Brazil.

I'm seeking some help. Obviously I read a lot about Scandellos and seems like my type of place.

Can someone tell me which area in SP would be the best to get an Airbnb where it won't be too far from the action as well as nice restaurants and good night life near by.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2921179]Finally planning on my long awaited maiden voyage to Brazil. I plan on doing a full week in Brazil.

I'm seeking some help. Obviously I read a lot about Scandellos and seems like my type of place.

Can someone tell me which area in SP would be the best to get an Airbnb where it won't be too far from the action as well as nice restaurants and good night life near by.[/QUOTE]I and some others here are partial to the Moema neighborhood.

I'm heading to SP for my first Brazil trip this Wed.

I'm staying in an airbnb in Consolação only 500 m from Casarao. I didn't plan on this being that close, but it was a happy accident I discovered after booking it. How is the area at night? There are some references to it being sketchy and ordinarily I'd avoid being out late, but it does seem a little close to uber. But should I still be traveling back home in a car to be safe?

Also I have a passport card in addition to my passport book. Is that fine enough for scandallo entry? Or should I copy and laminate the page from my passport book as advised in other posts here.

And finally which clinica has Larinha Small been at? I was mostly planning on going to boates (Scandallo, Bomboa, Casarao), but I'd love to meet her as well as scratch the clinica experience off my list. If you only went to two clinicas which would you choose?

[QUOTE=SkyRyder;2921171]I am always happy when one and in this case two "someone's" reply to my question with unequivocal advice. It does remove all trepidation of a course of action. My appreciation to the both of you for the spectacular reply to my humble question. I won't be able to make the pre-7:00 arrival on my first night, but will absolutely do that on the second. I will make it a point to fill in the blank spaces after my visit!

Sounds like I might need a good massage to work out the "kinks" after an evening in Scandellos. I had no idea what the travel time might be, so that mystery is resolved. Of course there is no way to account for traffic. Also nice to know that Uber is a reliable transportation option. Three am is not an option, but I am confident I can complete my quest well before the witching hour!

Best,

Sky![/QUOTE]Note the travel times mentioned below were for CGH not GRU. Scandallo is 40-60 minutes to GRU, but still totally worth it. CGH is much more conveniently located in southern SP right in the heart of the Clinica action. Also make sure to take Uber Black. It's a lot more reliable for very little extra. Uber in SP is dirt cheap.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2921179]Finally planning on my long awaited maiden voyage to Brazil. I plan on doing a full week in Brazil.

Can someone tell me which area in SP would be the best to get an Airbnb where it won't be too far from the action as well as nice restaurants and good night life near by.[/QUOTE]I like staying in the Jardim and Itaim Bibi neighborhoods best. At 9 pm it is only a 20-minute Uber ride to Scandallo. In the afternoon it is usually around a 20-minute ride to the Moema Clinicas as well. In addition, 2 of my favorite 4-star Itiam Bibi hotels are just 2 blocks from Bomboa and there are a ton of interesting, great restaurants nearby within very safe walking distance. So, this is obviously good area to stay.

[QUOTE=Wavarry;2921249]I'm heading to SP for my first Brazil trip this Wed.

I'm staying in an airbnb in Consolao only 500 m from Casarao. I didn't plan on this being that close, but it was a happy accident I discovered after booking it. How is the area at night? There are some references to it being sketchy and ordinarily I'd avoid being out late, but it does seem a little close to uber. But should I still be traveling back home in a car to be safe?

Also I have a passport card in addition to my passport book. Is that fine enough for scandallo entry? Or should I copy and laminate the page from my passport book as advised in other posts here.

And finally which clinica has Larinha Small been at? I was mostly planning on going to boates (Scandallo, Bomboa, Casarao), but I'd love to meet her as well as scratch the clinica experience off my list. If you only went to two clinicas which would you choose?[/QUOTE]Passport card is perfect! No need for laminated pp copy.

Casarao area at night / early morning, quick walk is ok.

Walk direct, phone hidden in your pocket, don't be drunk or dumb looking.

Otherwise order an Uber, they'll take the easy couple of bucks.

I know nothing about Laurinha. Just hit the clinicas, you'll find something you like.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2921303]Note the travel times mentioned below were for CGH not GRU. Scandallo is 40-60 minutes to GRU, but still totally worth it. CGH is much more conveniently located in southern SP right in the heart of the Clinica action. Also make sure to take Uber Black. It's a lot more reliable for very little extra. Uber in SP is dirt cheap.[/QUOTE]Hi Steve,

Thank you for making the effort to follow up. Flight was late last night and I was knackered, so decided to delay the fun until this evening. Being it is Sunday, thought I would check to see what time that Scandallos, Bomboa annd Bahamas open. Glad I did, because they are all closed on Sunday it seems. The plan was to have dinner at Scandellos, but I guess it will be somewhere else and then visit Casara close to opening time. I am making the assumption that all of these establishments have on site rooms, or there are ample options close by. I am sure none of the girls are interested in coming all the way out to the GRU area. Seems that Sundays at Casara has a "Cowboy" theme on Sundays, so we will see how that goes. I feel certain I will find something that meets my desires!

[QUOTE=SkyRyder;2921377]Hi Steve,

Thank you for making the effort to follow up. Flight was late last night and I was knackered, so decided to delay the fun until this evening. Being it is Sunday, thought I would check to see what time that Scandallos, Bomboa annd Bahamas open. Glad I did, because they are all closed on Sunday it seems. The plan was to have dinner at Scandellos, but I guess it will be somewhere else and then visit Casara close to opening time. I am making the assumption that all of these establishments have on site rooms, or there are ample options close by. I am sure none of the girls are interested in coming all the way out to the GRU area. Seems that Sundays at Casara has a "Cowboy" theme on Sundays, so we will see how that goes. I feel certain I will find something that meets my desires![/QUOTE]Casarao is a great choice for Sunday since most everything else is closed. Note that it really warms up late night. If you get there at 11 it will be empty. Grab a spot on the wall across from the stripper pole and watch the girls flow in over the next hour. So fun to scope the talent as it arrives. This report from Feb May be helpful and proves you can find real gems there. Mia still texts me how she misses me and wants to travel together. That girl was a dime piece. Look for the report called Rockstar Gem a bit down the page.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2204-Sao-Paulo-Reports&p=2894633[/URL]#post2894633.

[QUOTE=SkyRyder;2921377]Hi Steve,

Thank you for making the effort to follow up. Flight was late last night and I was knackered, so decided to delay the fun until this evening. Being it is Sunday, thought I would check to see what time that Scandallos, Bomboa annd Bahamas open. Glad I did, because they are all closed on Sunday it seems. The plan was to have dinner at Scandellos, but I guess it will be somewhere else and then visit Casara close to opening time. I am making the assumption that all of these establishments have on site rooms, or there are ample options close by. I am sure none of the girls are interested in coming all the way out to the GRU area. Seems that Sundays at Casara has a "Cowboy" theme on Sundays, so we will see how that goes. I feel certain I will find something that meets my desires![/QUOTE]Bahamas closed on Sunday? Since when, it used to be my go to place on Sundays if I had nothing else lined up. Have picked up some nice ones over the years although rare pickings to my liking most of the time.

[QUOTE=SexIsLove;2921397]Bahamas closed on Sunday? Since when, it used to be my go to place on Sundays if I had nothing else lined up. Have picked up some nice ones over the years although rare pickings to my liking most of the time.[/QUOTE]I misread the information. They are closed on Monday.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2921304]I like staying in the Jardim and Itaim Bibi neighborhoods best. At 9 pm it is only a 20-minute Uber ride to Scandallo. In the afternoon it is usually around a 20-minute ride to the Moema Clinicas as well. In addition, 2 of my favorite 4-star Itiam Bibi hotels are just 2 blocks from Bomboa and there are a ton of interesting, great restaurants nearby within very safe walking distance. So, this is obviously good area to stay.[/QUOTE]Is this the norm for most Airbnb's in sao Paolo?

I have been going to Scandallo since 2016. I started with 500 R $ but now it is 1500 $ and last month's trip, I even saw girls say $R2500 to 3000. What just happened here.

I literally didn't even try to negotiate with these girls. I had to wait to find the girls at 800. But most of the girls were adamant at 1200-1500.

I am not a white, but do look like a Brazilian, but don't speak the language.

Do you all see this? Just upsetting to have "negotiating" with these girls. Takes the mood off.

Where as Rio prices in the terma's 4 x4 or solarium or MC hasnt gone up this much.

So what are the experts saying and opinion?? how do you handle this price spike.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2921406]Is this the norm for most Airbnb's in sao Paolo?[/QUOTE]

The "no guests policy" [b]is not the norm[/b].

[QUOTE=TheCritic;2921494]What norm are you inquiring about?[/QUOTE]No guest policy.

[QUOTE=MRusa007;2921426]I have been going to Scandallo since 2016. I started with 500 R $ but now it is 1500 $ and last month's trip, I even saw girls say $R2500 to 3000. What just happened here.

I literally didn't even try to negotiate with these girls. I had to wait to find the girls at 800. But most of the girls were adamant at 1200-1500.

I am not a white, but do look like a Brazilian, but don't speak the language.

Do you all see this? Just upsetting to have "negotiating" with these girls. Takes the mood off.

Where as Rio prices in the terma's 4 x4 or solarium or MC hasnt gone up this much.

So what are the experts saying and opinion?? how do you handle this price spike.[/QUOTE]It seems you are vehemently opposed to "Negotiating" with Scandallo talent. Well, if you read previous posts, it seems that Mongers have in fact been getting quotes in the ranges you speak of. Read the individual stories of how they have delt with the quotes. The issue mainly comes down to how much COIN you have and how much you're willing to pay in relation to the individual girl you want to be with and the value you perceive her to have in your future experience. Some Mongers have paid high prices and claim they had the best time of their life, and some have paid on the lower end had the time of their life. Ultimately either [B]Negotiate or bring more COIN[/B] or [B]tell them how much you're willing to pay and let the acceptance or rejections fly[/B].

There are plenty of Mongers on this forum some with Big Pockets and Some with Small Pockets, but all have made Scandallo work for them, or they don't go to Scandallo.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2921406]Is this the norm for most Airbnb's in sao Paolo?[/QUOTE]

NO!

Read Post #18019

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2204-Sao-Paulo-Reports&p=2897512&viewfull=1#post2897512[/url]

[QUOTE=MRusa007;2921426]I have been going to Scandallo since 2016. I started with 500 R $ but now it is 1500 $ and last month's trip, I even saw girls say $R2500 to 3000. What just happened here.

I literally didn't even try to negotiate with these girls. I had to wait to find the girls at 800. But most of the girls were adamant at 1200-1500.

I am not a white, but do look like a Brazilian, but don't speak the language.

Do you all see this? Just upsetting to have "negotiating" with these girls. Takes the mood off.

Where as Rio prices in the terma's 4 x4 or solarium or MC hasnt gone up this much.

So what are the experts saying and opinion?? how do you handle this price spike.[/QUOTE]3000 reais is almost 600 USD. If you are willing to pay that much, then you are shooting yourself in the foot by leaving the USA. You can find rip off providers at home for that price, without planning a trip, packing a suitcase, getting to the airport, standing in line, and sitting on a plane for more than several hours. Amongst numerous other time consuming activities.

[QUOTE=VanessasClient;2921514]3000 reais is almost 600 USD. If you are willing to pay that much, then you are shooting yourself in the foot by leaving the USA. You can find rip off providers at home for that price, without planning a trip, packing a suitcase, getting to the airport, standing in line, and sitting on a plane for more than several hours. Amongst numerous other time consuming activities.[/QUOTE]Indeed, or fly to Europe and visit Globe in Zurich, FKK Artemis in Berlin, FKK Oase and FKK Sharks in Frankfurt. Without any risk of ever getting robbed at gun point in the street.

[QUOTE=The Critic;2921497]...

There are plenty of Mongers on this forum some with Big Pockets and Some with Small Pockets, but all have made Scandallo work for them, or they don't go to Scandallo.[/QUOTE]Correct. I myself don't include Scandallo any more in my Sao Paulo plans these days. This may be because I came to know Scandallo in 2021 in between lockdowns, when the highest you got quoted by girls was 800 R. In order for me to shell out 600 dollars there would need to be extras like bareback or ravin' & rollin'.

[QUOTE=Wavarry;2921249]I'm heading to SP for my first Brazil trip this Wed.

I'm staying in an airbnb in Consolao only 500 m from Casarao. I didn't plan on this being that close, but it was a happy accident I discovered after booking it. How is the area at night? There are some references to it being sketchy and ordinarily I'd avoid being out late, but it does seem a little close to uber. But should I still be traveling back home in a car to be safe?

Also I have a passport card in addition to my passport book. Is that fine enough for scandallo entry? Or should I copy and laminate the page from my passport book as advised in other posts here.

And finally which clinica has Larinha Small been at? I was mostly planning on going to boates (Scandallo, Bomboa, Casarao), but I'd love to meet her as well as scratch the clinica experience off my list. If you only went to two clinicas which would you choose?[/QUOTE]I'd take Uber at late hours, which is when you would go to Casarao as it is not an afternoon venue.

I showed my passport once at Casarao. After that they had my passport (or passport number with my name next to it) in their computer and I was let it just with showing a digital copy. Same at Scandallo.

[QUOTE=MRusa007;2921426]I have been going to Scandallo since 2016. I started with 500 R $ but now it is 1500 $ and last month's trip, I even saw girls say $R2500 to 3000. What just happened here.

I literally didn't even try to negotiate with these girls. I had to wait to find the girls at 800. But most of the girls were adamant at 1200-1500.

I am not a white, but do look like a Brazilian, but don't speak the language.

Do you all see this? Just upsetting to have "negotiating" with these girls. Takes the mood off.

Where as Rio prices in the terma's 4 x4 or solarium or MC hasnt gone up this much.

So what are the experts saying and opinion?? how do you handle this price spike.[/QUOTE]While it's possible a girl or two might ask an outrageous 2500 and not get it most girls are 1200-1500 or less if you push a bit. But it seems people in this thread latched on to the 3000 you mentioned and are acting like that is part of the discussion. It's not. Prob not your intent but this is how fake news gets started! Yes. Girls ask and get 1200-1500 this is the going rate. No. No one is paying $600/ HR at Scandallo.

Post COVID prices are up worldwide. Heck FKKs are now often 200/hr. Scan girls SLAY most FKK girls. And the venue totally slays fkk. So while Scan is now $200-300 it is 100% worth it.

In answer to ur initial question of how to deal with it. Walk away from any girl who starts with 2000 or up. She just shot herself in the foot. If a girl offers 1500 Id counter with 1000 and prob settle on 1200. I know u say it puts the mood off but its best to get used to it. Girls worldwide generally expect negotiation so they start high. U can choose to not negotiate. But thats on you not her. She isnt expecting 1500. But she will gladly take it.

[QUOTE=XXL;2921526]..........Correct. I myself don't include Scandallo any more in my Sao Paulo plans these days. This may be because I came to know Scandallo in 2021 in between lockdowns, when the highest you got quoted by girls was 800 R. In order for me to shell out 600 dollars there would need to be extras like bareback or ravin' & rollin'.[/QUOTE]I have never been to Scandallo but from my reading about the place it is geared for clients who like a luxurious ambience, good food and drink and being surrounded by numerous stunners. They leave the place with a huge smile on their face thinking money well spent. At my age I could do without the luxury. A hot stunner in a comfortable room would suit me just fine. Banging three gorgeous providers for the price of one Scandallo session would be money well spent for me.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2921406]Is this the norm for most Airbnb's in sao Paolo?[/QUOTE]No guests policy is YMMV. It also depends on the building. Some buildings have entrances like a prison so the entry policy will be very strict. These are most likely harder to have random visitor.

Look up Renaissance Sao Paulo Hotel, to the west is more affluent, to the east (look up Casaro Augusta) is less affluent and is the LGBT district. These are areas with better night life and you are less likely to get bored. Look up Tochka's posts. He has some good info in the Moema area which you can use as the fallback if you can't find one elsewhere.

These areas are safe. The main thing to look out for is guys on bicycle, especially near Republica plaza. They will come at you and grab anything they can from you, then ride away.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2921304]I like staying in the Jardim and Itaim Bibi neighborhoods best. At 9 pm it is only a 20-minute Uber ride to Scandallo. In the afternoon it is usually around a 20-minute ride to the Moema Clinicas as well. In addition, 2 of my favorite 4-star Itiam Bibi hotels are just 2 blocks from Bomboa and there are a ton of interesting, great restaurants nearby within very safe walking distance. So, this is obviously good area to stay.[/QUOTE]I also like Itaim Bibi. Great choice of gourmet restaurants, with one caveat though: as a lonesome bachelor I had the impression I was not welcome in those restaurants at peak business hours, especially on Friday and Saturday evenings. Yuppie couples all over the place. Of course this was no different from fashionable neighborhoods in London or Munich. I have been spoiled in Pattaya where everybody is a loner and welcome to any seat available.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2921539]While it's possible a girl or two might ask an outrageous 2500 and not get it most girls are 1200-1500 or less if you push a bit. But it seems people in this thread latched on to the 3000 you mentioned and are acting like that is part of the discussion. It's not. Prob not your intent but this is how fake news gets started! Yes. Girls ask and get 1200-1500 this is the going rate. No. No one is paying $600/ HR at Scandallo.

Post COVID prices are up worldwide. Heck FKKs are now often 200/hr. Scan girls SLAY most FKK girls. And the venue totally slays fkk. So while Scan is now $200-300 it is 100% worth it.

In answer to ur initial question of how to deal with it. Walk away from any girl who starts with 2000 or up. She just shot herself in the foot. If a girl offers 1500 Id counter with 1000 and prob settle on 1200. I know u say it puts the mood off but its best to get used to it. Girls worldwide generally expect negotiation so they start high. U can choose to not negotiate. But thats on you not her. She isnt expecting 1500. But she will gladly take it.[/QUOTE]Most of the girls I've either spoken to or actually seen in person from South America or the Caribbean, don't advertise prices. Instead, they expect you to make them an offer. But then again, I've never visited a strip club. These are all girls I've contacted online. This can be a blessing or a curse. It puts you in the proverbial high bidder's disadvantage, because you never know how low they are willing to go. If you lowball them, they find it insulting and block you if the offer is way too low. But, if you offer the maximum you are willing to pay, chances are they would have been willing to see you for less. So I ran a "test market. " I started going down in 100 real increments, with the ones I wasn't dead set on seeing, that way if they got pissed, I could always see another provider. It seems to me like the floor price for online providers is 500 reais. But at that price, if you want outcall, they will expect you to cover the transport. No problem, Uber is dirt cheap in Brazil, and you can send the car from your account. I wound up paying 700 reais + transport, but got a way better experience than I could have ever possibly imagined.

I am new in forum. I hope its right. I See that everything is in one thread.

I will go to sao paulo and See this Website. There are many hot girls for quite extreme low prices. For example 100 brl for one 1 hour. The problem is that many of this cheap girls are in the historical Center. I heard this a dangerous no go area with crackheads and muggings (like philadelphia and la maybe). Is this dangerous to comp to These locations with uber or is maybe a trap and someone will rob me or drug me. And what other neighbours think when I search the search the right Apartment in a big house (even in Europe this was not so comfortable).

Ok also there must be many Brothels. Scandallo is the most famous I heard, but These prices are on us / europe Level. So I do not understand why should pay same prices when I travel 10.000 kilometres. So not for me.

I am interested in the cheap ones where the Locals go. I heard they call them privee or sth. But how can I find out where they are? Because it is Hidden and some do not have a Website I think me most. And is it safe to visit These locations as a gringo who only speaks english and spanish.

Is there a list maybe where I find which are good and which not.

[QUOTE=Lotkio;2921697]I am new in forum. I hope its right. I See that everything is in one thread.

I will go to sao paulo and See this Website. There are many hot girls for quite extreme low prices. For example 100 brl for one 1 hour. The problem is that many of this cheap girls are in the historical Center. I heard this a dangerous no go area with crackheads and muggings (like philadelphia and la maybe). Is this dangerous to comp to These locations with uber or is maybe a trap and someone will rob me or drug me. And what other neighbours think when I search the search the right Apartment in a big house (even in Europe this was not so comfortable).

Ok also there must be many Brothels. Scandallo is the most famous I heard, but These prices are on us / europe Level. So I do not understand why should pay same prices when I travel 10.000 kilometres. So not for me.

I am interested in the cheap ones where the Locals go. I heard they call them privee or sth. But how can I find out where they are? Because it is Hidden and some do not have a Website I think me most. And is it safe to visit These locations as a gringo who only speaks english and spanish.

Is there a list maybe where I find which are good and which not.[/QUOTE]The site is legit.

My suggestion to simplify things until you are comfortable in Sampa: 1) Do clinicas which are up to your budget 2) Check out Casarao.

I also take from the street like lower Augusta near Casarao, but it's just me. I like to get what I see.

There is nothing wrong in privees, but you have to vet them through a third party, read reviews.

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2920916]I agree to. "negotiating overnights" sounds like a great title for a bossa nova song. I don't think I ever negotiated overnights, its something that's mutually agreed up, either she does or doesn't. But like Alex said, I also never do overnights on day 1. Normally, if I seen her on the second time or third time, I'll simply say, "Stay overnight" and she'll say, "Great, I brought my bag just in case you had asked" LMAO that's really how it goes 99% of the time. There those 1% exceptions on the first meet, but, that's only after you both banged out hard and she is all over you and you want her to stay.[/QUOTE]You didn't fully understand my question. Neither did Alex. I was referring to negotiating the price with a girl when you see her in the club and want to bring her back to your place that same night.

What you are saying about overnights is a different story when a girl is already at your place. And you probably are referring to semi pros / Seeking girls, where you negotiate PPM rate without specifying if it will be an overnight date or not and then just let it happen naturally. Scandallo girls are pros, and value their time much more. Pulling a Scandallo girl out of the club for 1 HR doesn't even make much sense, because you have to pay a take out fee, then Uber to your place (and back, if you want to try another girl). So if you take her out, it definitely should be overnight, period.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2920859]Great question, Miami, because there are many different approaches to successfully negotiating an overnight with a new boate girl let alone navigating the SP Boate scene and getting what you want. It ain't hard. Many boate girls, if not most girls, are available to be taken out of the club rather than to be stuck there all night long although as always YMMV from girl to girl.

My approach is simple: I never consider takeout with a new girl. My first time with a boate girl is always ST and in-house. The only exception to this approach is when I am at Casarao, because I really dislike using their adjacent ST hotel. Everywhere else I am happy to initially get it on in-house and after the first boom boom session, if I really like the girl, I will exchange what'sup #'s with her, and we take it from there. Sometimes nothing happens and I never see the girl or have sex with her again, sometimes I continue to see the girl in-house a few more times, and once in a while I find I have "keeper," a girl I really like, and we move our new relationship outside the club permanently. The key here is I am in no hurry to jump into anything with these girls. Overnights have their advantages, sure, but they are not a consideration for me unless it is with girls I already know and really like. Truth be told I am more into sequential 2-fers, ie doing 2 boate girls separately, one at a time, ST, in-house rather than having a LT with 1 girl, although it does depend on the girl.[/QUOTE]I don't see why one can't do an overnight with a new girl. I have had overnights with Seeking girls on day 1. There is no need for a test drive. It is just 1 overnight date, not a 7 day trip together or some long term commitment. If she didn't live up to expectations you simply just don't repeat. I'm not wham bam thank you ma'am type of guy, I would rather pay a little bit more but fuck in the comfort of my apartment. I hate quickies on site. If I already paid for a nice airbnb or hotel with a view, why not take advantage of it and enjoy it to the fullest rather than fuck on site or at a crappy ST motel nearby? I like the comfort of my airbnb. I can put my fav YouTube playlist on, mix my drinks, etc. I don't like to be in rush knowing that we have plenty of time to enjoy ourselves. If I do overnights, 3 pops is standard, 2 in the evening and 1 in the morning. So from a cost per fuck point, it is cheaper to pay for pernoites. But I understand we all roll differently.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2921949] rather than fuck on site or at a crappy ST motel nearby?.[/QUOTE]The room is decent with dual shower head in the shower. It is more like a love motel with room service delivered thru a small entry on the wall. If a girl is taken out, it likely won't be a crappy motel. Most likely will be a love motel, probably with jacuzzi or swimming pool.

[QUOTE=Lotkio;2921697]Is there a list maybe where I find which are good and which not.[/QUOTE]You can find the list here.

[QUOTE][URL]https://www.gp-guia.net/viewforum.php?f=8[/URL] for list of clinicas[/QUOTE]

Downtown day time is fine. Night time is ok if you know the area.

I just found out tomorrow is a holiday, apparently the Brazilian version of valentines day. Does this effect the boates?

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2921949]I don't see why one can't do an overnight with a new girl. I have had overnights with Seeking girls on day 1. There is no need for a test drive. It is just 1 overnight date, not a 7 day trip together or some long term commitment. If she didn't live up to expectations you simply just don't repeat. I'm not wham bam thank you ma'am type of guy, I would rather pay a little bit more but fuck in the comfort of my apartment. I hate quickies on site. If I already paid for a nice airbnb or hotel with a view, why not take advantage of it and enjoy it to the fullest rather than fuck on site or at a crappy ST motel nearby? I like the comfort of my airbnb. I can put my fav YouTube playlist on, mix my drinks, etc. I don't like to be in rush knowing that we have plenty of time to enjoy ourselves. If I do overnights, 3 pops is standard, 2 in the evening and 1 in the morning. So from a cost per fuck point, it is cheaper to pay for pernoites. But I understand we all roll differently.[/QUOTE]Do what makes you happy, dude. No one said it is a bad idea to take a new boate girl out of the club for LT OR ST. In the past few months there have been some excellent trip reports about having 1st time LT sessions with Scandallo girls. IMHO success or failure largely relies on establishing a friendly interview / audition vibe.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2921949] You didn't fully understand my question. Neither did Alex. I was referring to negotiating the price with a girl when you see her in the club and want to bring her back to your place that same night.[/QUOTE]The actual negotiation part is easy. Here is a typical boate situation: after cruising around the club for a while I spot a girl of interest. She smiles at me and I decide to take this a little further, so I ask her over for drink.

Then during the course of the interview / audition girls will sometimes ask me what I like to do. I tell them I like to kiss and make love. KKK. Then I ask the girls if they like to kiss. After most boate girls have said they like to kiss, things begin to happen, KKK, and we start it up which is one of the reasons why I really like the boates and similar honky tonks. Eventually, sooner or later and always before the girl finishes her drink, she will make an offer or ask if I want to go upstairs. If I am interested, I ask how much and the issue is usually settled in under 45 seconds. But if I am not interested or the ask is too high and she won't come down (rare), I make a polite excuse and move on.

Now if I want something specific like a LT or ST at my hotel, or even BBFS; this is the apropos time to bring it up and like I said in a previous post, most boate girls are up for leaving with their customers. Good luck with negotiating BBFS. KKK. I am only successful with the bareback request less than 10% of the time. My point is leaving the club is no big deal, however, you will have to pay an early departure fee that the club imposes on the girls. It is roughly the same amount as the club's hotel room charge so it is up to you which path you want to follow. But it is not more expensive to take the girls away and usually there are some fringe benefits to taking a girl back to my place like the times when I really clicked with the girl (and she me), and I invited her to stay for dinner, and then received a 2nd shag afterwards at no additional cost or on rarer occasions, the session was so good that I invited a girl to modify our agreement and spend the night for a modest additional "tip". This doesn't happen all the time, but when it does, it makes bringing a new girl back to my hotel for a ST session really rewarding. Anyway, as you said, "We all roll differently. " Do what makes you happy.

In my last post I wrote, "there are some fringe benefits to taking a new boate girl back to my place. " But there are also some great advantages to doing her in-house as well like still being in the boate, the center of action and entertainment, afterwards. I mean it's after midnight things are rocking: why leave? Where else is there to go? Fact: I just got laid. Now, I am hungry and the boate has a pretty good restaurant. Why leave? KKK!

Now, it is around 1 am and I have been laid and fed. I am feeling good so now it is time for another gin and to check out the current girly situation. Some of my best boate shags have been with the 2nd girl of the evening. So, the bottom line is I enjoy spending the night at the boates. I usually arrive around 9:30 pm and leave either around 1 am or 2:30 am. Boates are fun places. If one girl was enough, I will leave after I have dinner (1 am). If I am in the mood for a 2 fer I will stick around to 2 am or 2:30 am and then head back to my hotel.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2921952]The room is decent with dual shower head in the shower. It is more like a love motel with room service delivered thru a small entry on the wall. If a girl is taken out, it likely won't be a crappy motel. Most likely will be a love motel, probably with jacuzzi or swimming pool.[/QUOTE]I get it, but let's be real, no motel room can beat a full size apartment in a luxury building which has already been paid for anyways.

Just wrapped up another visit to SP which turned out to be my best experience yet in Brazil, which essentially means the best anywhere. Out of more than 20 sessions, only 1 was good, the rest were better, most way better than good. Zero CBJ, 100% GFE, the way mother nature intended. These Brazilian women are from another planet!

However, before noobs go thinking it is all a walk in the park, I like to reiterate that I do my homework and always counter-check all my prospects with gp-guia. Occasionally you get lucky, but relying on luck alone will leave you mostly disappointed in this game.

Some highlights of note:

From photoacompanhantes I met this lady, Mariana Lessa: [URL]https://www.malicia.com.br/marianalessa[/URL] ; [URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/jardins/oi-eu-sou-a-namoradinha-dos-seus-sonhos-venha-conhecer-id-pkhug[/URL] . A bit fluffy, but very attractive. Stays in a nice apartment in a high end neighborhood in Jardins. Advertises Thai massage but offers none. Massaged my toes for 30 seconds and asked me to flip. Nevertheless, provided a very sensual and solid GFE, and she's orgasmic. I thoroughly enjoyed my time with her. Damage was 500/ h.

The twist: she kept urging me to invite her for pernoite at my place, which is never my favorite (for me after 2 pops, utility with a provider goes down to near zero). Anyway after a couple of days I relented and and asked her how much. The quote was 8,000 (that's 1,600 USD). And some of you were complaining about inflated rates at Scandallo. Of course she never heard from me again.

Highlights to continue.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2921390]Casarao is a great choice for Sunday since most everything else is closed. Note that it really warms up late night. If you get there at 11 it will be empty. Grab a spot on the wall across from the stripper pole and watch the girls flow in over the next hour. So fun to scope the talent as it arrives. This report from Feb May be helpful and proves you can find real gems there. Mia still texts me how she misses me and wants to travel together. That girl was a dime piece. Look for the report called Rockstar Gem a bit down the page.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2204-Sao-Paulo-Reports&p=2894633[/URL]#post2894633.[/QUOTE]This is also to Axel. Big thanks to you both! Your "steerage" was spot on and made the difference. So I did head to Casarao on Sunday. Didn't see any evidence of a western theme, but that was of no consequence. Took up the recommended position and was rewarded with an ongoing review of arriving talent. The ladies were ready to play from the moment they entered the room. I was patient and walked downstairs after a few moments. Saw one or two that I was for certain interested in meeting, but both were engaged in conversations. Back up stairs, regained my seat and relaxed and enjoyed the show. Twenty minutes later my first target came upstairs alone. She had made eye contact before, but I didn't want to interrupt. She had a bit of a RBF going on, but the body was smoking. I motioned her over and she sat down and smiled. The room was instantly filled with the light of that smile. She was proudly all natural, which I prefer. We chatted a bit over a drink and when asked quoted me R500 for an hour. Off we went to a serviceable room. All I can say is when she disrobed, what was already a spectacular specimen of feminine form became other worldly. I had told her before what I wanted was a "one hour girlfriend.the good kind"! She certainly provided that and more. Her skills matched her beauty and it was a spectacular session.

Last night I went to Scandallos, hoping to view some of the Tier 1 talent, and was not disappointed. Yes they quoted prices R1500 and above, and I was reluctant to pull the trigger, but great fun to have drink with and enjoy the view. Had my eye on a Tier 3 cutie (these classifications are all my own, derived from the descriptions in earlier postings). She was bubbly, smiled easily and again was keen to provide me an hour or so of genuine " I really like you and want to make you happy GFE" type affection. She even kissed me as a preview. She asked R900, then before I could respond reduced to R800, I suggested R700 because I didn't want to chance destroying the vibe and she smiled and said let's go. She was not as pretty as the lady in Casarão, but had something of an "it" factor I liked. She was by no means unattractive, but just a more of a Girl next door look, with appropriate make up and clothes and heels designed to maximize her assets. All of which were natural also. Another great session with an added twist of pulling off the condom and applying her lips to try and maintain my erection after I came. She was somewhat successful and I was rewarded with a very nice hand job. For this I tipped her an additional R100.

I would have never enjoyed both evenings as much absent the information that was shared here. I did enjoy both evenings, but the one at Casarao was really fun. If I repeat I would try to do take out because my hotel room is more comfortable. Thanks again for the assist. It had more than a decade since I was here, and made some more memories of fun in SP.

Best,

Sky.

Can anyone that went recently to SP speak to how the weather was?

June / July is supposed to be winter months but looking at the weather app, the weather looks fantastic with low of 60 and high of mid 80's this week.

But weather app isn't always reliable or accurate so would like some feedback.

[QUOTE=Trojan22;2922467]Can anyone that went recently to SP speak to how the weather was?

June / July is supposed to be winter months but looking at the weather app, the weather looks fantastic with low of 60 and high of mid 80's this week.

But weather app isn't always reliable or accurate so would like some feedback.[/QUOTE]SP's winter is chracterized by cold snaps, during which you'd better have heating in your digs.

Day 1 in sp.

Bit of drama checking in to my airbnb. But once all was settled just got in and relaxed. I contacted lotus clinica and looked at the photos they sent considering a afternoon adventure. I researched a little and just decided to wait and relax till scandallo time.

Getting antsy I went ahead and called my Uber at 5:40 p. Thinking I'd just be a tad early, I was so excited to experience male Disney world. My place is normally 25 minutes from scandallo so I was expecting to be way early. With traffic I wound up arriving at 6:55 pm. I'm so thankful for the Uber drivers in this country.

At 7 p I'd say there were 40-50 girls there and about 10 guys including myself. Coming out of the elevator I was a bit nervous, ran into some language issues at the airbnb check in and my duolingo Porto lessons are still beginner. I started walking around and a brunette noticed me looking she said I and immediately switched to English. She was letting me know the dance club area was not yet open. I was relieved to already having a friendly English convo as I was bracing for a night of confusion and google translate. I thanked her and went back to the restaurant, I took a seat once I realized I didn't need to wait for a host to seat me. Ordered a water that I had no idea how much cost, but fuck it I need to spend this 300 brl consumable. I sat and watched girls look out at us, you feel like an animal at a zoo a bit. Every once and a while one would strut around near just hoping for your attention. I finished my water and took a stroll around. Because the main areas weren't open there wasn't a lot of places to sit and girls were taking all the spots outside the restaurant.

I ran back into the cute English speaking brunette, we talk about where she is from and I invite her to have a drink with me at the restaurant. I was just planning to kill time as I wanted to experience scandallo at all it's glory. We start chatting, she's rubbing on me. I tell her I like to kiss, after a hit of cheek kissing and looking into each other's eyes she says she doesn't like to kiss in public, but when we get back in the room she will and we will have so much fun. I wasn't planning on starting this early, but wtf. She asks for 2000, I say 700, she asks for 1500 before I counter again she's already at 1000. I tell her I wasn't planning to start this early, it would need to be 700, she asks for 900. We meet at 800. We head up get our room key, she kisses me in elevator I'm excited. Now here is the red flag, in the room she asks for money ahead of time. I say I've been advised not to. She insists, I do the same thing another punter did I count it out and place it on the counter with my phone on top. This works for her, but I will say the passion kind of disappeared. This is feeling like a run of the mill session, I probably would have been better off at a 400 brl clinica. She smokes a little weed before, she's kind of a dead fish, BJ was okay. When we were talking we spoke of exchanging numbers and seeing each other outside, but after the session I never bothered asking for her whatsapp. I won't say it's the worst sex of my life, but definitely in the bottom 20%.

Went back to the restaurant and had some pasta, a lot less excited about scandallo, but seeing a lot of new prospects. Wish I was younger and had better recovery time. I decided to just talk to a lot of girls and enjoy the vibe till I was ready for another. I was surprised that 8 out of 10 girls spoke passable English. I regret using that as a metric for choosing my first garota. I had a good time afterwards, but around 11:20 I decided to head on to casarao as it's near where I'm staying and I wanted to see a different vibe. I'd say when I left at 11, there was probably 150 girls at scandallo, but now about 100 or more guys. I'm going to come back for night 2 and see if I do things better.

Casarao, it's a bit crowded already at 11:45. I take the only space I can find on the bench overlooking the poles. There is a few nice looking girls, but nothing compared to scandallo. There is this brunette with an unreal body and some perky tit's, she goes to stand with some other girls near me. We catch each other's eyes a few times she then sits with me, she doesn't speak a lick of English, we break out the google translate. Despite us using the phones mainly to chat we have good chemistry. She quotes me 700 for an hour at their place or 1500 for all night at my place. I decided on the 700 option as she's gorgeous fun and well I just paid 800 for that crappy session at scandallo. We head over to their hotel I gave my card to two different people with 0 idea of what I paid till I checked my statement that night and they were both incredibly reasonable charges. As soon as the door closed we were all over each other making out, she tasted great and gave great head. Honestly it was a top 10 sexual experience. Anytime after popping I expected us to take a break to talk with google translate, she kept slipping me back in for more. I loved watching her get off. As our end time approached she asked me with the phone should we continue at my place, I was tempted but after that and scan I was totally spent. We exchanged numbers and we are making plans for Friday.

I'm planning to go back to scandallo tonight and try again. I want to see that place late night, but I imagine could wind up dragging my butt back to casarao as it sure worked last night.

I also need to get to bomboa. Is there a best day / time for over there? Do they start earlier or basically keep to the same late night schedule?

I'm here for a week and a half, I've also talked to girls on MP and seeking. Feeling a tad overwhelmed with the options.

What's everyone's favorite clinica. Was looking at lotus as it seemed more high class?

Also to the guys who were saying they don't like to negotiate at scandallo. You have to there, that would be like going to a high class american strip club and paying the dancer exactly what she is asking for takeout. By nature of the venue every girl there is starting with GPS syndrome, but they are all realistic at least the ones I spoke with yesterday.

I went to scandallo last night, going again tonight. What the hell happened with the GDP union pricing? Opening amounts are $1500 reais.

There are at least four garotas from either Clinica Tangara, Termas Monte Carlo, Soloarium and Prime Moema. That are dolled up, pretty faces and sexy dress asking $1200 reais when earlier in the week they were slinging their pussy money makers for $220 - $400 reais. I just sessioned with each of them earlier in the week at the clinicas and rio Termas!

More power to ya guys dining at the why. DATY I salute you digging in where ten other guys just popped their load during the presentation lineup. She is very popular with extensive writeups in gpguia. If you know ya know.

After a late night at scandallo two energetic garotas invited me to go with them to Espao Vergueiro in Liberdade open to 4 am. Save that one for another report.

YMMV your experience may vary, your scandallo routine may vary, and your scandallo scale and experience will be different. Sharing mine and how I like to roll.

Tochka, I hear ya on those inflated prices. You make a good point about it was $220 are just a day ago LOL I been seeing a lot of post asking about prices.

Fellas, here is a thing I have done which worked really well, I would go to the outside bar, get a cigar, and ask whichever a girl who was in front of me she wanted a drink, she would say yes, and I would say, I don't pay over 750 are. Many times, she accepts the drink, we chat, and walks away. But I use her + a few more as my messengers. They all talk. So, I chill, smoke my cigar, and wait till one of them approaches me, damn well, she knows I am not paying over 750 are because she heard it from the other girls. You'll be surprise what hot stunners would still come over and be OK with 750 are. And ofcourse, there are other nights, I am just a savage and I pay premium if I really want her. But, if you want to keep budget then try that bar spin on it. Good luck.

[QUOTE=Tochka;2922548]I went to scandallo last night, going again tonight. What the hell happened with the GDP union pricing? Opening amounts are $1500 reais.

There are at least four garotas from either Clinica Tangara, Termas Monte Carlo, Soloarium and Prime Moema. That are dolled up, pretty faces and sexy dress asking $1200 reais when earlier in the week they were slinging their pussy money makers for $220 - $400 reais. I just sessioned with each of them earlier in the week at the clinicas and rio Termas![/QUOTE]

I'm one of those that doesn't haggle, but if they really will accept half of their opening price then I agree, it must be done.

[QUOTE=Wavarry;2922504]Day 1 in sp.

Also to the guys who were saying they don't like to negotiate at scandallo. You have to there, that would be like going to a high class american strip club and paying the dancer exactly what she is asking for takeout. By nature of the venue every girl there is starting with GPS syndrome, but they are all realistic at least the ones I spoke with yesterday.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2922561]But I use her + a few more as my messengers. [/QUOTE]Very useful tip!

Sp Day 2.

Went to scandallo with the intention of doing it right after my mistakes the day before. I show up around 7, there is noticeably less women than there were the day before, also more guys. I tell myself that I'm not allowed to commit to a session till at least 10 or 11 at the earliest. I talked to a lot of women, no one that I felt over the moon about. I negotiated with a couple of girls, but tbh I was barely interested in them at 700, I'm pretty sure that if I went up to 8 or 9 some fun would have been had. But at 11:30 after another negotiations I said fuck this I'm going to casarao. Within 60 seconds of walking in my girl from the previous evening ran over and embraced me. Seconds later I was paying her takeout fee and she was in an uber back at my place where we fucked all night long and a little this morning too. Charge was 1200, glad I left scan. But kind of worried as I'd like to really enjoy casarao without them sinking her teeth in me. I want to see some of these other girls there. Need willpower. After the slow pace of scandallo it is fun the fast pace of casarao.

Day 3 (this morning).

Once them was out the door I told myself I'd take it easy today I'd go to the park, some art museums and just take it easy on the hobbying. 3 hours later I found myself ordering an uber to moema prime. I was going to avoid the clinicas as I was after low volume providers on this trip and wanted to feel a little more comfortable. But it would be a sin to come all this way and not give it a try.

My driver dropped me off and I felt a little lost as there isn't much signage on the bldg. I came in and the desk person called out 3 girls who came in kissed me on the cheek and I then decided on this very thin black girl. She didn't speak a word of English, but she was very skilled at bjs, I think she wanted me to go bareback, there was a lot of sliding on my guy. Eventually we got covered up and it was a grand ol time. It's funny how all your high volume std nervous energy goes away the second a hot as fuck 19 year old has your dick in their mouth.

I guess I'm going to a new clinica every day for the duration of the trip now. Any recommendations?

Continuing the night I'm going to see what Friday night at bomboa is like.

Day 1.

Miriela'.

Clinica Lola.

[URL]https://kama5715.com/[/URL]

I went to the clinica and was buzzed in. The receptionist did not speak english, but we managed to communicate that I was there for the relaxing massage.

Was shown to the waiting\bar area. Really nice couches and interior.

A lineup of three girls came down to introduce themselves to me. I chose Mirela, a 24 why short blackhaired argentinian gordinhas with a nice figure and a juicy ass that spoke a little english.

We went up to her room, Took a shower and then started with a massage. After that it was DFK, blowjob and 69. She then climbed on top and started riding me, while speaking Portuguese or Spanish, not sure what she said. But I did recognize papi. Hot either way.

Relaxed and cleaned up. Chatted a bit before going for round two.

DFK, 69, doggie, cowgirl, doggie, blowjob. She takes the load in the mouth and swallows.

Nice place, serviceminded staff. 2 hours 15 min 500 BRL. Price for 1 hour is 200 brl.

8/10.

Day 2.

Lavnia.

I found a freelancer with good reviews from a local forum on [URL]www.photoacompanhantes.com[/URL] and whatsapped her.

We made an appointment to meet at a short time hotel in the Santa Cecilia area ([URL]www.motelnovalisboa.com.br/[/URL]) 80 BRL for 3 hours.

I went there to reserve a room and check out the surroundings. Found a nice lucheria nearby that serves some affordable picanha.

We met in the room. Brazilliana, around 24,1. 60, magra with the badonkadonk.

Started in the shower and moved to the bed. DFK, BJ,69, cowgirl, reverse cowgirl. She really hit the cowgirl hard, like she was trying to drive down a fence post. Over to missionary, then valedictorian with her legs on my shoulders. She enjoyed it and I could go full throttle and she wanted more. I have to paraphrase Scotty from TOS "I'm giving she all I got". After some variations I came in the rubber. She held me inside for a while. And really seems to enjoy the session.

Round 2 and it was time for Anal. BJ, then warm her up. I was a little surprised that she didn't have lube with her. But but. Started in a prone position and went to town on her. And she enjoyed it! After a while we switch to cowgirl\reverse and she goes hard and long again, switching over to legs on shoulder and variations. We both tire out and try a BJ finish. But as the time is ticking from us I call it. Sometimes I don't get that second pop.

Excellent girl, that seems to love sex and was happy and bubbly all the time.

She asked for 400 for 2 hours with anal. 1 hour normal is 180 brl.

9/10.

I was thinking about going to Scandallo, but after that 2 hour poundtown and all the beer\beef, nachos and walking all day, I was spent. Scandallo tomorrow!

Thanks for all the intel posted here, I feel ready for GPS at scandallo. 800 BRL for an hour with scandallo girls seems expensive, so they better be HOT. Especially when I know where to find it for wayy less with some digging.

I have immersed myself in the local forums and found alot of intel.

[URL]https://www.gp-guia.net/viewforum.php?f=8[/URL] is a good resource, as mentioned in a post by Nouce.

[URL]https://melhoreskamas.com/[/URL] has todays lineup and picture of the girls of a good amount of clinicas.

Day 3 continued.

Went to bomboa, arrived around 11 p. Host explains that ite 350 but all consumable. I'm fine with this although hoping it's worth it as I've been arriving before 7 to make the 300 all consumable scandallo deal.

Waiter gets me a seat and automatically this feels a lot more service oriented than I've been getting at scan. I'm liking it, host offers to bring me over any girl that I want. Kind of nice. But I ask to be left alone. I look across the room. There are about 40 girls, but tbh only a couple that I would consider having any interest in and even then I feel like I'm forcing it.

A few girls go ahead and sit next to me striking up convo, I send them on their way. There are 3 girls in this place I'm considering, I get up to approach this striking blonde. I pre write a message on Google translate. I start walking her way, round the corner and she's not there. Wtf. I go back and some Korean guy has swooped her. Darn. I could recount the rest of the night it's not Interesting though, bought several girls drinks had some inane conversations, was not interested in spending an evening with any of them. At the end of the night checked out, I was under minimum but with added fees and a waiter gratuity it was nearly 500 real. I'm going to stick with scandallo and casarao.

Day 4.

After not going with anyone last night and after the good experience at prime at head to moema to see abbodara. Gpguia really had me expecting a lot, read a few reviews and one guy mentioned there being 18 girls in the presentation and a lot of blonde silicone. We'll the Uber arrives, I walk in and the presentation comes. 2 girls and well not a fan of either. I decide to walk over to Miruna. Their presentation had 4 girls. Not amazing, but one felt doable and I hated leaving 2 without getting any so go ahead. I shouldn't have, it was a pretty standard passionless spa session. But oh well 250 reals and I got a blow job. I left and walked over to fogo de chao, my lunch was the same price and more fun. I decide to pop a tadalafil and see what prime & 57 friends have going on. Walked over to 57 and they only had 1 girl avail. The clerk said to come back in an hour and she would have a few more. I went to prime and there were 6 Asian guys waiting in the lobby already. I take a seat for the presentation, there were 3 girls. We all opted to leave.

When is the best day / time for clinicas? I feel like Saturday it is not.

I'm filing this report from a very dead scandallo. It's 7:30, so killing time by catching up with ISG. That said there is easily still more girls here already than there was at bomboa last night.

I know the majority of girls in Sao Paulo are whiter skinned (many might be mixed of something without realizing it, but most are white skinned). I was in Sao Paulo for a week last year and saw plenty of black and mixed girls walking the streets in the day time (not prostitutes, just regular girls). I didn't have too much time to visit clubs but I am planning to go back and hit up Scandallos and Casaraos and other places. I like going to higher end places. No street walkers. Can I find some black and mulata stunners in Sao Paulo? I have to imagine that since it is a rich city, really good looking black girls work in brothels here. Where are the places I am likely to find them? I know there aren't going to be a ton aggregated into one place. But where have some of you seen some black stunner prostitutes? I can pay in the medium and higher end. So that's not problem. Won't overpay market price. But won't skimp out. I am planning a Scandallos run and will likely pay 700 Reals (will try to negotiate for less but I know the market and I have no problem sticking to it without being dumb).

Thanks.

Ari. Your are right about more light skinned garotas. However, there are plenty of black stunners too. I also do like slim fit black stunners time to time. The two places are have seen the most, by quantity and attractiveness has been Scandallo and Connection. The clinicas are all hit or miss with low probability, if you find one black hot stunner in the clinicas considered yourself lucky. Good luck.

[QUOTE=Aristhotle;2923454]I know the majority of girls in Sao Paulo are whiter skinned (many might be mixed of something without realizing it, but most are white skinned). I was in Sao Paulo for a week last year and saw plenty of black and mixed girls walking the streets in the day time (not prostitutes, just regular girls). I didn't have too much time to visit clubs but I am planning to go back and hit up Scandallos and Casaraos and other places. I like going to higher end places. No street walkers. Can I find some black and mulata stunners in Sao Paulo? I have to imagine that since it is a rich city, really good looking black girls work in brothels here. Where are the places I am likely to find them? I know there aren't going to be a ton aggregated into one place. But where have some of you seen some black stunner prostitutes? I can pay in the medium and higher end. So that's not problem. Won't overpay market price. But won't skimp out. I am planning a Scandallos run and will likely pay 700 Reals (will try to negotiate for less but I know the market and I have no problem sticking to it without being dumb).

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Wavarry;2923063]When is the best day / time for clinicas? I feel like Saturday it is not.[/QUOTE]Get their WhatsApp and ask them to add you to their daily update the next time you visit the clinica, except Abbbora doesn't have update. You can get an idea of what time will be best from that. Morning is not a good time. Prime always have more customers hanging around. Saturday will have many more customers all day so it may be tough

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2923591]Ari. Your are right about more light skinned garotas. However, there are plenty of black stunners too. I also do like slim fit black stunners time to time. The two places are have seen the most, by quantity and attractiveness has been Scandallo and Connection. The clinicas are all hit or miss with low probability, if you find one black hot stunner in the clinicas considered yourself lucky. Good luck.[/QUOTE]There is a black hottie at prime right now named yiara or something that sounds like that. She also works at bomboa if you prefer to pay 5 times the price for the same girl.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2921957]You can find the list here.



Downtown day time is fine. Night time is ok if you know the area.[/QUOTE]What is better in your opinion. Clinicas or privee / Boate. Which has better price value.

Is a clinica comparable with the Massage Parlour in Thailand.

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2923591]Ari. Your are right about more light skinned garotas. However, there are plenty of black stunners too. I also do like slim fit black stunners time to time. The two places are have seen the most, by quantity and attractiveness has been Scandallo and [b]Connection[/b]. The clinicas are all hit or miss with low probability, if you find one black hot stunner in the clinicas considered yourself lucky. Good luck.[/QUOTE]Wow, Connection Nightclub hasn't been mentioned in a post / report in a very long time. How is it and as anyone been there recently?

UX, the place is rocking when they have the band playing on stage LOL for some reason, I always find hot garotas from Porto alegre, etc. A lot of girls from the South end up there as of late. Probably has the most girls from the South then any other place I seen, at least since this past year. Past performance does not guarantee future performance LOL.

[QUOTE=UniversalX;2924011]Wow, Connection Nightclub hasn't been mentioned in a post / report in a very long time. How is it and as anyone been there recently?[/QUOTE]

There is also these type of events if anyone is interested in finding Black stunners.

[URL]https://www.spicyclub.com.br/informa-es-do-evento-e-registro/black-swing-afrobeat[/URL]

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2924124]There is also these type of events if anyone is interested in finding Black stunners.

[URL]https://www.spicyclub.com.br/informa-es-do-evento-e-registro/black-swing-afrobeat[/URL][/QUOTE]That's a swing club though. Or is it basically a de facto brothel? If it is a de facto brothel, I'll pass by there. Any other info on black girls in Sao Paulo, please pass it by.

[QUOTE=UniversalX;2924011]Wow, Connection Nightclub hasn't been mentioned in a post / report in a very long time. How is it and as anyone been there recently?[/QUOTE]I second this. What are the price ranges in Connection Nightclub? 700? Less? I'd love info on this club. Let us know anyone, please.

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2924122]UX, the place is rocking when they have the band playing on stage LOL for some reason, I always find hot garotas from Porto alegre, etc. A lot of girls from the South end up there as of late. Probably has the most girls from the South then any other place I seen, at least since this past year. Past performance does not guarantee future performance LOL.[/QUOTE]RealShaun.

Thanks for the follow-up info.

[QUOTE=Aristhotle;2924315]That's a swing club though. Or is it basically a de facto brothel? If it is a de facto brothel, I'll pass by there. Any other info on black girls in Sao Paulo, please pass it by.[/QUOTE]Swinging clubs in Brazil aren't de facto brothels I think. You have to bring your own.

Ari. Its slightly lower than Scandallo. Usually, asking range 800 - 1200. Just like everywhere else, negotiate it, etc. I do tend to find the Connection gals are more flexible on price, possibly, due to the South (Porte Alegro, Flori) girls in nature are more relax and chill. Just my opinion only.

[QUOTE=Aristhotle;2924316]I second this. What are the price ranges in Connection Nightclub? 700? Less? I'd love info on this club. Let us know anyone, please.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2924367] {************ Its slightly lower than Scandallo. Usually, asking range 800 - 1200. Just like everywhere else, negotiate it, etc. I do tend to find the Connection gals are more flexible on price, possibly, due to the South (Porte Alegro, Flori) girls in nature are more relax and chill. Just my opinion only.[/QUOTE]I have been meaning to check this place out for a long, long time eg since I started fooling around in SP in 2021, and my only excuse for not going is Location Location, Location. KKK. But I plan to go there on my next trip for sure. The Scandallo relationship to Connections reminds me of the relationship that existed between Hotel Alexis (a 5 star bordello now closed) and Emporium (a 4 star bordello) which was managed by the same company in Jakarta. Both honky tonks were great, but there was no mistaking the fact that Alexis was numero uno and the gold standard of brothels in Jakarta.

So far away from the neighbourhoods where we would normally stay. I paid a visit back in 2022 but I was there too early, 11 pm, two or three girls, it was as though it had not really opened yet. I didn't stay. I'm not even sure midnight would've been ok, more like 1 am perhaps.

One Scandallo girl who came twice to my AirBnB told me Connection had spectacular girls in terms of sexy outfit, tattoos and plastic surgery. More wicked a place than Scandallo.

The Uber couldn't find the place. It was hardly visible from the street.

XXL. At 11 pm should have been more girls. Maybe it was a day of the week, Mon, Tues are slow, or possibly holiday if you remember. But by midnight the place is usually packed Wed. To Sat. I was told more locals come to this place, so it has a bit more of a local neighborhood vibe to it. None of the girls speak english, not even one. Scandallo you find a few, but, Connection, not a chance. But a lot of them also speak some spanish (if that helps). The girls are hot, cool vibe, definitely a place to check out at least once. I normally, go in, and sit in the middle couches. And watch girls walk all around. Then many times, one will sit next to me, then all the sudden, they'll be a little crew sitting all around me. Yes, I do buy them drinks, but, drinks are cheaper than scandallo. I ask which one wants to get fucked, they laugh, one says she likes girls, another says, etc. Its hysterical. A lot of fun. It makes for a fun time.

If you check out there website, the blonde on the homepage, its typically what 50% of the girls look like in there. That south of brasil look....its cool spot in my opinion.

website http://www.connectionvip.com.br/


IG [URL]https://www.instagram.com/connection.nightclub/[/URL].

Address: Av. Dr. Eduardo Cotching, 1178 - Jardim Analia Franco.

Have Fun.

[QUOTE=XXL;2924424]So far away from the neighbourhoods where we would normally stay. I paid a visit back in 2022 but I was there too early, 11 pm, two or three girls, it was as though it had not really opened yet. I didn't stay. I'm not even sure midnight would've been ok, more like 1 am perhaps.

One Scandallo girl who came twice to my AirBnB told me Connection had spectacular girls in terms of sexy outfit, tattoos and plastic surgery. More wicked a place than Scandallo.

The Uber couldn't find the place. It was hardly visible from the street.[/QUOTE]

Went to 57 Friends for an evening session around 7 pm.

I asked reception for the presentation lineup. Sometimes I cannot tell the difference between the garotas on duty vs garotas stopping by for a drink. The presentation helps me to figure out what. The first one to come over was light skin, honey, and green emerald-eye beauty. Damn, she looks like a young sexy Alicia Keys, with sultry penetrating eyes and a killer smile. I was hooked, bingo let's go baby. Let's go baby we were singing to the room. We had an hour-long energetic session. Unfortunately paid the full rack rate, and the forista discount rate starts next visit cause she could not find the name in a recent review. I retired to the bar downstairs to hear the band play a few notes. She left by Uber with a promise of a repeat visit the next day.

Forgot 57 Friends is the hangout bar for the Moema Clinica Chicas. Many of my top favorite garotas from Prime, Moah, Enjoy, Abbobora, and Vani Lola were streaming in. All of them in one place. I had fucking great time. We shot pool, dirty dancing, rounds of drinks, they were buying me a drink or two. I made sure to only buy rounds for the garotas I sessions with or the receptionist who treated me well. It was a blast to hang out for two or three hours with the garotas, talking, partying, smoking some good weed, flirting. All of us just letting off some steam after days of work of fucking and sucking. Where the hell do these gals get the energy to party three more hours after doing an afternoon sex shift at clinics? Got introduced to a few more brasiliera porno queens that came in with the garotas. Lined up a porno threesome already, with a blonde, red hair pale beauty and and hottie morena.

Anyhow got to gonto write a forista TD at a few more CLnicas to get the discount promotion. BTW met a new garota named Carioca, the humorous line worked! Voce carioca the gema.

Day3.

During day2 I began feeling under the weather. Since I was not feeling 100% I decided to skip scandallo and just try takeaway in my room [URL]https://callgirlsinsaopaulo.com.br[/URL].

Contacted them via whatsapp and they had two girls available. I went for Karen Sornoza. She was in my hotel room shortly after.

She was redhead, 1.60 m, 67-70 kg. I'm thinking the pictures were taken a couple of four years ago and / or photoshopped. Guessing she's 24 and has 8 kg more on her.

I asked the operator about OWO and CIM, Which were confirmed. But when we started she said she doesn't. Downhill from there. Should have checked with her before I paid, rookie mistake. I was looking for a BJ to CIM, but with a condom that's impossible for me.

No kissing as I have a sore throat and she was sniffling, perhaps a cold?

BJ with a condom, then 2 minutes of cowgirl Before she asked for doggie. I start the doggie but I notice a fishy smell from her pussy that makes me insta soft. Tried switching to missionary, but it was too late. After a rest she asked what was up. I didn't have the heart to tell her her smelly cat made me limp. So I just told her I didn't like condoms. She's a pro though, after an expert HJ she actually managed to get my limp dick off.

Bad session. Because of a perfect storm of me and her feeling under the weather, no kissing / intimacy, wrong info from the operator and so on. False advertising and BJ with condoms and fishy smells are major icks for me.

800 brl outcall delivery.

2/9.

Would not repeat.

Day 4.

Quiet day, most clinicas and such were closed. Contacted 2 interesting freelancers, but they had Sunday off.

Got a hit on tinder, so no need to look further. The most petite, mignon, magra I've had in Sao Paulo so far. She was 30 but fit, and her kegel was insane.

Tochka is the place address Alameda dos Aicás, 1293 - Moema next to the Egnima Club? Never been. On the instagram it looks like a little bar of sorts. So do you go in and people hanging out and also have rooms to do stuff? Or more like you meet the girls there and go with them elsewhere?

[QUOTE=Tochka;2924501]Went to 57 Friends for an evening session around 7 pm.

I asked reception for the presentation lineup. Sometimes I cannot tell the difference between the garotas on duty vs garotas stopping by for a drink. The presentation helps me to figure out what. The first one to come over was light skin, honey, and green emerald-eye beauty. Damn, she looks like a young sexy Alicia Keys, with sultry penetrating eyes and a killer smile. I was hooked, bingo let's go baby. Let's go baby we were singing to the room. We had an hour-long energetic session. Unfortunately paid the full rack rate, and the forista discount rate starts next visit cause she could not find the name in a recent review. I retired to the bar downstairs to hear the band play a few notes. She left by Uber with a promise of a repeat visit the next day.
.[/QUOTE]

So Tinder was good? I was also looking on Seeking Arrangements. But will try to look on tinder. I do like to BBCIP with semi-pro Seeking Arrangement girls. Last girl I had was a Dentist from SA. It was great.

[QUOTE=NiceFjords;2924620]Day3.

During day2 I began feeling under the weather. Since I was not feeling 100% I decided to skip scandallo and just try takeaway in my room [URL]https://callgirlsinsaopaulo.com.br[/URL].

Contacted them via whatsapp and they had two girls available. I went for Karen Sornoza. She was in my hotel room shortly after.

She was redhead, 1.60 m, 67-70 kg. I'm thinking the pictures were taken a couple of four years ago and / or photoshopped. Guessing she's 24 and has 8 kg more on her.

I asked the operator about OWO and CIM, Which were confirmed. But when we started she said she doesn't. Downhill from there. Should have checked with her before I paid, rookie mistake. I was looking for a BJ to CIM, but with a condom that's impossible for me.

No kissing as I have a sore throat and she was sniffling, perhaps a cold?

BJ with a condom, then 2 minutes of cowgirl Before she asked for doggie. I start the doggie but I notice a fishy smell from her pussy that makes me insta soft. Tried switching to missionary, but it was too late. After a rest she asked what was up. I didn't have the heart to tell her her smelly cat made me limp. So I just told her I didn't like condoms. She's a pro though, after an expert HJ she actually managed to get my limp dick off.

Bad session. Because of a perfect storm of me and her feeling under the weather, no kissing / intimacy, wrong info from the operator and so on. False advertising and BJ with condoms and fishy smells are major icks for me.

800 brl outcall delivery.

2/9.

Would not repeat.

Day 4.

Quiet day, most clinicas and such were closed. Contacted 2 interesting freelancers, but they had Sunday off.

Got a hit on tinder, so no need to look further. The most petite, mignon, magra I've had in Sao Paulo so far. She was 30 but fit, and her kegel was insane.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2924699]Tochka is the place address Alameda dos Aics, 1293 - Moema next to the Egnima Club? Never been. On the instagram it looks like a little bar of sorts. So do you go in and people hanging out and also have rooms to do stuff? Or more like you meet the girls there and go with them elsewhere?[/QUOTE]


Never been as well, More information/reports please!

Addresses:

*57 House Friends Club, Alameda dos Aics, [b]1293[/b], So Paulo
X/Twitter: [url]https://twitter.com/Chanes57BarClub[/url]

*Enigma Club, ALAMEDA DOS AICS, [b]1287[/b] - MOEMA / SP.
[URL]https://www.enigmaclub.com.br/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g303631-d15008372-Reviews-or10-Enigma_Club-Sao_Paulo_State_of_Sao_Paulo.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=UniversalX;2925139]Never been as well, More information/reports please!

Addresses:

*57 House Friends Club, Alameda dos Aics, [b]1293[/b], So Paulo
X/Twitter: [url]https://twitter.com/Chanes57BarClub[/url]

*Enigma Club, ALAMEDA DOS AICS, [b]1287[/b] - MOEMA / SP.
[URL]https://www.enigmaclub.com.br/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g303631-d15008372-Reviews-or10-Enigma_Club-Sao_Paulo_State_of_Sao_Paulo.html[/URL][/QUOTE]I've been to 57 Friends twice both times around 9 pm. Killing time before Scandallo or Casarao (tho now I go to scan earlier) and both times just a couple girls milling about. Nice little bar with cheap drinks so no harm no foul. But I didn't realize more could be lurking and to call for a line up! That is great new info! The forum rules. Thanks Tochka!

Well. I wouldn't say tinder is good for p4 p. I use tinder, hinge, badoo too fish and see if I get some freebies.

I've had a couple of matches from girls that during chatting admits they need to pay the bills. So I guess they are desperate and could go for bbcip.

A couple of matches from pro girls too. But I just politely decline them.

I would think seeking is better for p4 p, as both parties are clear on what the is. I don't like my tinder matches suddenly saying they want gifts.

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2924701]So Tinder was good? I was also looking on Seeking Arrangements. But will try to look on tinder. I do like to BBCIP with semi-pro Seeking Arrangement girls. Last girl I had was a Dentist from SA. It was great.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2925185]I've been to 57 Friends twice both times around 9 pm. Killing time before Scandallo or Casarao (tho now I go to scan earlier) and both times just a couple girls milling about. Nice little bar with cheap drinks so no harm no foul. But I didn't realize more could be lurking and to call for a line up! That is great new info! The forum rules. Thanks Tochka![/QUOTE]Yes correct address for 57 friends, next door is the swing club. The first few times visiting 57 I couldn't figure it out. There is a bar, pool table, sometimes a band, the garotas de program were sitting in the middle of two or three guys chatting away or off smoking.

Its looks a regular neighborhood bar with a couple of chicas here and there.

Now my MO before entering the bar area, sit on the couch or stand at reception to ask for the presentation lineupholy mackerel batman, like six or seven garotas magically appear even though the placed looked empty of garotas.

I grab the first two that are attractive for facefucking deepthroat. Tayla and estafanie. I say vamos, dupla session one hour. I don't give a shit for either gal to get a chance to go hide off in the smoking room, or return back to drinking with those mofos.

Her ass is there to sell the money maker. We are going to the rooms Now!

In such a little bar its fucking amazing how they can disappear all night if you let them.

True the ones I selected look GND types or young college girl types. Tayla and estafanie which I wrote about on gpguia review to get the forista discount.

Both gals are excellent deepthroaters, both swallow the entire leche load, lapping up the entire. Loadto the back of their throats no spitting out. No rushing off to spit the load. Nope just the warm pleasant sound of glurp, glurp, swallow, a small belch burp its goes down smooth and then she smiling. Satisfied no complaints or gagging. Glurp glurp. Swallow haha luv brasil.

Both go on special repeat list on wassap to hook up again.

57 friends is friendly if you know the garotas or receptionists from the local Clinicas in Moema. Its their local hangout spot to relax, drink, gossip, shoot pool and have fun. Nope never know which days during the week they going to show for some drinks nor exact times 7-9 pm.

YMMV with 57 friends, the garotas you session with may vary, the number of garotas you know in 57 will vary, the party, drinking, talking will vary especially if you don't know some Brazilian portuguese, or can tell a few humors jokes or talk about music, YMMV for the price paid it will vary, read the gpguia reviews, your experience will be different from mine. The older receptionist speaks good English. The GDP gal filling in for her, no english. Only sharing my experience. YMMV.

Is this a good list, to thise of you in the know?

[QUOTE=Krilimag;2904573]Alright fellows, I have been perusing through a lot of discussions, sites, etc. For the past several months and as I get closer to my trip I am asking for your input as I complete my stops, specifically with clinicas.

Below is my line up that I think will be within close proximity to Moema. They are not in particular order but need your assistance to fill in question marks?

Please correct also if I am greatly mistaken on the information I have.

1. Lotus Lounge.

Type: Ipad system.

Area: Jardins.

Approximate Price: 700-800 reales.

Does it have a bar: Yes.

2. Abobora.

Type: Actual line-up.

Area: Concelao.

Approximate Price: 400 reales.

Does it have a bar: Yes.

Website: ?

3. Palms.

Type: Ipad system.

Area: Brooklin.

Approximate Price: 800-900 reales.

Does it have a bar: No.

4. Sharon Premium.

Type: Ipad system.

Area: Moema.

Approximate Price: 650 reales.

Does it have a bar: Yes.

5. Prime.

Type: Ipad system.

Area: Brooklin.

Approximate Price: 600 reales.

Does it have a bar: No.

Website: ?

6. Miruna.

Type: Line up.

Area: Villa Mariana.

Approximate Price: 600 reales.

Does it have a bar: No.

Website: ?

7. Baronesas.

Type: Ipad system.

Area: Congonhas.

Approximate Price: 700-800 reales.

Does it have a bar: Yes.

8. Yankin.

Type: Line up.

Area: Near Moema.

Approximate Price: 400 reales.

Does it have a bar: No.

Website: ?

9. Tangara.

Type: Line up.

Area: Ibirapuera Park area.

Approximate Price: 450 reales.

Does it have a bar: No.

Website: ?

10. Oro.

Type: Ipad system.

Area: ?

Approximate Price: ? Reales.

Does it have a bar: ?

Website: ?

11. Taj Mahal.

Type: Line up.

Area: Villa Mariana.

Approximate Price: 600 reales.

Does it have a bar: No.

Website: ?[/QUOTE]

Hi there!

Somebody knows about a nice (4* or 5*) girl friendly hotel in Av. Paulista area?

Once a time when I was often in São Paulo for work the Melià was girl friendly, any suggestion?

It Travel.

[QUOTE=TravelerXX;2925351]Is this a good list, to thise of you in the know?[/QUOTE]Lots of errors in that list.

Abbobora is in Moema, not Concelao.

Sharon Premium is in Villa Mariana, not Moema.

Prime is in Moema, not Brooklin. Not I-pad but line-up. Price is about 250.

Miruna is in Moema, not Villa Mariana. Price is about 250.

Yankin is in Villa Mariana. About 200.

Tangara is in Villa Mariana. About 200.

[QUOTE=ItTravel;2925378]Hi there!

Somebody knows about a nice (4* or 5*) girl friendly hotel in Av. Paulista area?

Once a time when I was often in So Paulo for work the Meli was girl friendly, any suggestion?

It Travel.[/QUOTE]I'ved holed up at the Renaissance and Tivoli Mofarrej, both garota friendly. Luvchicas.

Jimmy. Have you been to Sharon Premium? I've never been, but, on the website it says massages, or is it full service. Also, the website has pics of inside, and looks pretty nice.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2925390]Lots of errors in that list.

Abbobora is in Moema, not Concelao.

Sharon Premium is in Villa Mariana, not Moema.

Prime is in Moema, not Brooklin. Not I-pad but line-up. Price is about 250.

Miruna is in Moema, not Villa Mariana. Price is about 250.

Yankin is in Villa Mariana. About 200.

Tangara is in Villa Mariana. About 200.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2925490]Jimmy. Have you been to Sharon Premium? I've never been, but, on the website it says massages, or is it full service. Also, the website has pics of inside, and looks pretty nice.[/QUOTE]I will give you another freebie. Mel is good, 20 yr old blonde. She is the youngest that I have met in all the high end clinicas. This is your backup. You can interview up to 3 new girls. If none does what you want, pick Mel. It's full service.

I said people should share and I am setting another example. This is going to save you some serious coins if she still works there. LOL.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2925185]I've been to 57 Friends twice both times around 9 pm. Killing time before Scandallo or Casarao (tho now I go to scan earlier) and both times just a couple girls milling about. Nice little bar with cheap drinks so no harm no foul. But I didn't realize more could be lurking and to call for a line up! That is great new info! The forum rules. Thanks Tochka![/QUOTE]Maybe someone has mentioned this already. 57 is a clinca during the day and a boate at night. I had several memorable sessions with Mel here. She works as a private detective and owns a car. At my second session with her, she just landed on my mouth to receive oral from me. Hehe. The manager Julie speaks English and is very friendly.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2925390]Lots of errors in that list....[/QUOTE]Yea, I already pointed out the errors before and he either did not read it or ignore it.

Has anyone been to sharon premium? Reports?

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2925490]Jimmy. Have you been to Sharon Premium? I've never been, but, on the website it says massages, or is it full service. Also, the website has pics of inside, and looks pretty nice.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2925504]Has anyone been to sharon premium? Reports?[/QUOTE]I don't recommend these places unless you know what you are doing You have to commit to session. That is the reason people don't share because it costs them to learn so why would they give the information for free. But that actually encourages the bad practice of these establishments. One can say similar thing with sugar baby. Potentially, It is disorganized against the organized.

If I am going rank them, I think Palm is best (more consistent and the owner will help you with information, can talk to 2 girls and reject 1 girl), then Sharon (can talk to 3 girls and reject 2 girls), Lotus is worst (you don't get to talk to the girl at all) . They also may have different room sizes. One member may like the better room he got in the report, but you may get a small room that is much worse then the room written about in report.

Day 5.

Found and contacted lia from [URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com[/URL].

She had one good review from Gp-guia. Made an appointment to meet her in javidad area at.

[URL]https://www.gloriaplazahotel.com.br[/URL]

Normally I like the days first to be earlier in the day, around 12. But this one onky gets off work and can meet at 1700.

The short time 4 hour room cost 135 brl and it was worth every real. It was clean, new and modern. It also had a big screen tv so I could watch the football world cup, USA vs Iran.

Lia showed up and I was a bit surprised. The advertisement said 1. 56 m and 40 kg, but most girls lie a little. She didn't lie, she was tiny, with big bambi eyes. Red long hair. Maybe a small be cup with pierced nipples. Slim waist, 2 palms across. You get the picture. She's a shy 18 years old girl, with repressed naughtiness, and is really submissive. What more could I want?

Started DFK and just playing with eachother, I was kissing and fingering her for 5-7 min. BJ, 69, cowgirl. She was tight and moaning, biting her lip. I took a good grip of her ass and literally jacked myself off with her. This is why I love petite girls.

But I had her for 2 hours, so we chatted a bit, watched some world cup and started up again. DFK, fingering, DATY, valedictorian with her legs on my shoulders, missionary, doggie, cowgirl until her legs got cramps, BJ, HJ, balls licked good, missionary, doggie again until the time ran out. These damn condoms.

She's shy and seems new to the business, just as I like them. But she took guidance very well and did everything I said. She's a sweet girl. And she looks and sounds like she is enjoying herself.

700 brl for 2 hours.

8/10, will do again.

Time to try Scandallo for the first time!

Around 2100 I make my way to Scandallo. I show ID and get my drinking card in the lobby and I'm shown upstairs. There are maybe 100 girls here and 25 guys as far as I can see. I walk through all the different bars to get an overview and find a seat in the bar with the stage.

This place reminds me of an German FFK, minus the spa part, with all the the dolled up girls prowling around. I can see why this place gets praise.

I order a drink and watch the football game. Just trying to take in the vibe and see if there are some interesting girls here. I'm approached by a cute girl with brown hair. She reminds me of someone that I used to know, in retrospect that's not a good reason to choose a girl. We talk price and she's at 1500 to start. I start at 700, we meet at 800.

We go up to the room where we shower and start up. Immediately I feel the girl going into a routine, which is not something I enjoy. Good BJ with hands and suction. Switch to missionary where she started talking Portuguese phrases, that didn't do anything for me. The rest of the hour was just switching positions and condoms. I could feel the latina rage building, and her Portuguese shifted from standard phrases to just a latina cursing you out. Atleast I felt a little passion from her.

No cigar, but my scandallo cherry was popped.

800 brl for 1 hour.

4/10.

Went down to the stage bar thinking I would just spend the remainder on my card and leave. But. I noticed a short brunette with wavy hair. 1. 50 m with big boobs and ass. A little exchange of looks and she came over.

We talked and had some chemistry. But I had to tell her I was just in a room and would need some rest to be able to complete. Possibly that I would not be able today. We just talked for a couple of hours. After flirting the conversation turned to sexual preferences. We were aligned in the bedroom. So I knew I had to fuck her.

Went up to the room, Took a quick. Shower and started. Good BJ, with hands. Lets just say she liked spanking that left marks and being dominated. So I did. I loved that her eyes rolled back in her head. She took a lot of positions. Since this was my third of the day I had no chance of completion. So we just fucked fot an hour.

Let's just say it was the best I've had on this trip.

900 brl for 1 hour.

9/10.

Day 6.

Today I wanted CIM. And I found the right girl on [URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/[/URL].

I contacted her on WhatsApp and an appointment at her place in Bela vista. Took a uber to the place, and was a little late because it was the slowest uber I've ever had. But the girl was good with it. Made it to the place and had to show ID to get inside. She waited for me in a small clean and cozy looking apartment. She had a friendly little cat walking around. Started with a shower, got a sealed towel.

The girl is pretty, young (20 y probably correct) mulatto, short stature and thin with amazing Cork curly hair. Her pictures are accurate and she is all smiles and joy. Very good service.

Laid down on the bed and she started a good BJ with hands spitting and ball licking. I just stayed with BJ, since I just wanted a relaxing CIM. She was good, but to finish placed my hands on her head and gently face fucked to completion. She swallows the loading in her pretty little mouth.

After we talked for 20 minutes before I jumped in the shower. 1 h 30 m from where I walked in the door, even if I was 30 minutes late.

390 for 1 hour 30 minutes with CIM.

8/10 will repeat. I got to fuck her too.

Found a few girls within 'walkable' (I like to walk long distances) distance from my hotel. I tried the one that responded with a good price, listed on photoacompanhantas at are $100/ hour. TGTBT right? As soon as I got in she wanted 100 for a half hour or 200 for an hour LOL. Whatever. It's only $40 after all! Started with a massage and then flipped (no massage on flip) and did BBBJ with CFS for finish. Wasn't that great, but for the value is was good. I'd rate it about a 6/10 only because of the value. How many other places can you get it cheaper and easier? No need to pay for any hotel or whatever.

I contacted another girl who, by chance, happened to be at the same place! This one gave me some story about canceling on another guy to bring me, then asking me to pay double for missing out on him (What? I told her I'd visit her in an hour as I needed a breather anyway. She was so full of shit and annoying. Ended up playing games. Well anyways I picked another one that gave me the 320 address (I feel like almost every room has hookers in it), and she was much better looking that the first girl. She charged (but was straight up about it) 220 reais, but when I pulled it all out I had an extra 5 that she swiped as a 'cashino' or whatever. I'm not going to argue about one dollar. The massage was 'ok', the BBBJ was great but she stopped very quickly. I'm going to have to start going for CIM girls if I want to get a decent BBBJ. I suppose you could just ask the girl for a 2 hour program with CIM, that way you know for sure she's down for a good BBBJ. Her shower only had cold water. I'd say 7/10 because she was better looking. The first girl looked like white trash you'd find at a trailer in Minnesota.

What do you mean by you have to commit to a session?

[QUOTE=Nounce;2925635] You have to commit to session. .[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2925805]What do you mean by you have to commit to a session?[/QUOTE]You can't walk away without paying for service once you meet the girl in person. One reason is many girls will only do CBJ or won't kiss so in a way it is a scam. But if all you care about is the look, the quality is higher but they are also older in general based on my experience,

I prefer girls like this, I said let's all come tonight, this is the response I like. LOL

[QUOTE=NiceFjords;2925732]Day 5.

Found and contacted lia from [URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com[/URL].

She had one good review from Gp-guia. Made an appointment to meet her in javidad area at.

[URL]https://www.gloriaplazahotel.com.br[/URL]


8/10 will repeat. I got to fuck her too.[/QUOTE]Any advice on using Photoacomphantes without being scammed or baited & switched? You hear very differing things about PA on this site. Some like you use it with good results, others think total scam waste. I can come up with my own safeguards but used to Asia and not sure what girls in Brazil will tolerate as far as giving comfort they're legit.

Also anyone educate me on what "no frills" means? Never heard the term outside Brazil.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2925899]You can't walk away without paying for service once you meet the girl in person. One reason is many girls will only do CBJ or won't kiss so in a way it is a scam. But if all you care about is the look, the quality is higher but they are also older in general based on my experience,

I prefer girls like this, I said let's all come tonight, this is the response I like. LOL[/QUOTE]Love time, in Gloria sucks.

Agree with Nounce. I met one of my favorite Garota at a short-term motel Love Motel in Lapa. The rooms are cheap and basic. I paid in advance for three hours in cash. They had a small ass minibar. The garota grabbed a soda pop during our dangerous liaisons. She is into weirdo kinky stuff and needs lots of plastic sheets. Haha. We finished, and she left. I showered and took elevators down to the lobby. Shift change happened at reception so the new receptionist asked if I paid. Yes, of course, I said while walking out the lobby door. She reached down, inside the reception desk, next sound I heard was "click" "click", "clang" . What the hell WTF she locked the lobby doors from the inside. Be*tch set me up, trapped me inside the lobby doors. No way to leave unless I break the grated windows. Damn ok, you want to get my attention. Told your ass I already paid in cash. She sent one of the cleaners to check if we used anything from the stupid minibar. Waited around to pay for the soda pop. After paying she unclicked the secure lobby door, so I could walk out into the dark night rain of Gloria. The streets were flooded with rain and trash flotsam.

Things wish I knew before, now I always check how to get the fuck out of short term love motels, stop by the kiosk stand to bring my own hedgebull zero, Smirnoff vodkas, Stellas and switched over to panda or lips cause never going back to lock-me in Love time in Gloria.

Your experience may vary YMMV, your situation may change, but not going to motels or clinicas where I have to choose the garotas as pot committed.

So if you go in and get the apresentao, you have to sessiion with one of the three you meet? Fuk that!

[QUOTE=Nounce;2925899]You can't walk away without paying for service once you meet the girl in person. One reason is many girls will only do CBJ or won't kiss so in a way it is a scam. But if all you care about is the look, the quality is higher but they are also older in general based on my experience,

I prefer girls like this, I said let's all come tonight, this is the response I like. LOL[/QUOTE]

This is more of a rio topic so this should be moved over to there, but.

I have sessioned in love time and I thought it was alright, but I am sorry you had that experience.

In centro, I also like sheik.

[QUOTE=Tochka;2925914]Love time, in Gloria sucks.

Agree with Nounce. I met one of my favorite Garota at a short-term motel Love Motel in Lapa. The rooms are cheap and basic. I paid in advance for three hours in cash. They had a small ass minibar. The garota grabbed a soda pop during our dangerous liaisons. She is into weirdo kinky stuff and needs lots of plastic sheets. Haha. We finished, and she left. I showered and took elevators down to the lobby. Shift change happened at reception so the new receptionist asked if I paid. Yes, of course, I said while walking out the lobby door. She reached down, inside the reception desk, next sound I heard was "click" "click", "clang" . What the hell WTF she locked the lobby doors from the inside. Be*tch set me up, trapped me inside the lobby doors. No way to leave unless I break the grated windows. Damn ok, you want to get my attention. Told your ass I already paid in cash. She sent one of the cleaners to check if we used anything from the stupid minibar. Waited around to pay for the soda pop. After paying she unclicked the secure lobby door, so I could walk out into the dark night rain of Gloria. The streets were flooded with rain and trash flotsam.

Things wish I knew before, now I always check how to get the fuck out of short term love motels, stop by the kiosk stand to bring my own hedgebull zero, Smirnoff vodkas, Stellas and switched over to panda or lips cause never going back to lock-me in Love time in Gloria.

Your experience may vary YMMV, your situation may change, but not going to motels or clinicas where I have to choose the garotas as pot committed.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2925899]You can't walk away without paying for service once you meet the girl in person. One reason is many girls will only do CBJ or won't kiss so in a way it is a scam. But if all you care about is the look, the quality is higher but they are also older in general based on my experience, [/QUOTE]I have been frequenting these high end clinicas (Palms, Sharon, Taj, Lotus) for a while now and I have a few favorite repeat clinica massage girls that are outstanding in looks and service. Although I have never rejected one of my photo pre-selected girls, I am fairly confident that I could terminate a session without penalty within the 1st few minutes if I so wanted. These high end clinica girly photos are heavily photoshopped so while the girl that comes to your room is the same girl as in the photos, sometimes it is necessary to subtract a star from her looks in the photos. KKK. HOWEVER, the flipside of this can occur too. One of my favorite Palm girls actually looks better (sexier) IMHO in person than in her glossed-up photos.

So why do I like to do these clinicas, ie frequent these expensive bordellos in the afternoon? For variety and quality, of course, and because when this venue works, I end up with a great afternoon tryst with a tier 1 or tier 2 Scandallo quality girl for 640 br (Sharon) to 750 br (the Palms). Now the Palms, Sharon, Taj, Lotus, etc. Do not replace regular clinicas like Abboboro and Prime for me. I still love these latter type "regular" clinicas and consider them the best bang for the buck in all of SP, but I like going upscale in the afternoon occasionally as well.

As to why these boutique clinicas prefer to show their customers photoshopped laptop photos over the time-honored live walk thru display of available girls like they do at all the regular clinicas is beyond me. One possible explanation is that the management wants to avoid any frictions or jealousies among the girls and their customers, so repeat customers can come and choose any girl they want, and their presence in the clinica as well as their selected girl of the afternoon will be totally unknown to all the other girls in the house. Just a theory.

Bucket list. Preggo Porno queens.

Ok which one of you dudes knocked up Larinha the amateur anal porno queen?

Her tiny body can take three dicks up her tiny culo ass with ease. At least in her amateur porno videos.

During a threesome last week another garota and I asked her how the fuck she can stretch her ass to fit in three Wesley pipes. She told us the story of how she prepares at least two or three days before time. She takes out some weird freakin ass stretch toy. The garota and I said legal! At the same time. But the money for the scene is only so-so. Oh well, told her demonstration time was over. Let's get back to the dupla session cause I ain't never going to do anal with ya. We open the windows to the Clinica to smoke some good-ass weed, and drink strong-ass whiskey, she puffs away on weed and cigarillos, getting half drunk in a two or three-hour session. Finally scored forista rate!

Next day see a pic in her feed. Waitwhat, I video call her, what are you doing in the pregnant mother clinic? She holding a cigarette in the clinic showing off the slender baby bump. Gee willikers. You never mentioned being pregnant. Yeah. Blah. Blah. Damn hope she isn't planning to hit me up for money like DR women. Sure enough baby crib. . nblah, garota sweety ya best go find which one of those studs porno guys in your movies has the super spermnto knocked you up. If ya lucky some rich older drunk ass gringo (definitely not me) .

So far this Brasil trip has two things checked off the bucket list, a real mother-daughter session on Brasilian Mother's Day, with all the fucking drama afterward—never again and banging a preggo porno star. Catching flight back to Rio tonight. Cool to see NFL ads in CGH airport.

[QUOTE=Tochka;2926132]Bucket list. Preggo Porno queens. Ok which one of you dudes knocked up Larinha the amateur anal porno queen?[/QUOTE]Well, whoever did it didn't do so by torquing her up the butt hahaha! Had to be seeding that buceta.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2926052]As to why these boutique clinicas prefer to show their customers photoshopped laptop photos over the time-honored live walk thru display of available girls like they do at all the regular clinicas is beyond me.[/QUOTE]

They are just trying to gain advantage over customers to make the money they wouldn't make otherwise. There is one high end clinca that you can pick face to face says so on their web site.

Whether it is a good deal or not, it depends. It's a good deal If one does not mind all covered sex. You are the only member that I know who gets near 100% BBBJ by going with the flow. You also have the ability to pick the girls that perform BBBJ by choosing from photos. I agree it is a good deal in your situation. I get no more than 50% and that makes Scandallo a better deal.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2926052] am fairly confident that I could terminate a session without penalty within the 1st few minutes if I so wanted[/QUOTE]

Anybody can do that at Sharon or Palm. The question is how many times in a visit.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2926134]Well, whoever did it didn't do so by torquing her up the butt hahaha! Had to be seeding that buceta.[/QUOTE]Yeah figured it's the same sob story of an ex-boyfriend with no money to knock her up. I told her that CIP pussy should have waited until September when the NFL guys and all those horny brothers descend on Sao Paulo CLnicas. Go get one of them as a baby daddy. Haha.

I am not into preggos porno gals, so got to move on to other porno actriz.

Ok, I have built my private wassap list of amateur / pro-Brazilian porno Garota, let me share this with all the horndogs that keep sending messages to the inbox.

Dudes in my opinion Braslian porno gals are everywhere and available! Mr E. Got it right and Vagbundo is spot on with their knowledge.

Dudes don't overestimate the professional makeup and video setup of these porno queens into thinking how much to overpay.

The ones I sessioned, met in various Moema, So Paulo CLnicas. The Clinica rate of one hour at are $200 reais $190 with forista discount.

I get the bucket list fantasy.

So if you have zip, zilch local contacts in Brazil or clinicas then search.

Photoacompanhantes.

For atriz porno as a start. Look for words atriz porn.

Sereia Ninfo, Evelyn Zain, Ariella Ferraz, Soraya Carioca, Stella Smeets, Luiza Marcato, Larinha Smalls.

They all post their wassap, rates city, SP, or Rio. Contact them when you are on the ground in the city, ready to pull the trigger to meet.

They quickly block time wasters, curious mongers, if you are not ready to hookup right away or if you never met in person before.

Use a burner number to not get reportedly catfished by factions PPC, Comando Vermelho as reported on gpguia.

YMMV your miles may vary with so-called porno stars, anal queens, or lesbi garotas. Your experience will vary, and your price will vary. Your timing to hook up with them will vary. Sometimes I had to wait to checkone off the bucket list cause some Euro dude took her on luxury trips through the European capitals and the Swiss Alps.

But The Pix request will eventually come through. Hahaha.

She will shake that money maker for a fast reais, fast buck. YMMV.

To minimize the risk of getting scammed / tricked on photoacompanhantes would suggest the following:

Use filter "Filter de pesquisa» with the option "Com TD positivos".

That way you will only get the ones that have positive review from one of the review sites.

If you want to be surer, then read the review if the girl only has one / a few and check that the reviewer has more review under his belt. Or at least click in and see that there are no other negative reviews on her. Search her number on [URL]www.gp-guia.net[/URL] or [URL]www.gparena.net[/URL].

I would also trust a girl that will go to a hotel more than a girl that only takes appointment in her place. Since her travelling and getting rejected is more work than staying at home.

Some girls will take a videocall before appointment to ensure it's really them.

I got "tricked" once with a girl that had a fake positive review. I should have walked away, but she was not ugly, just had photoshopped away acne and tattoos. You'll find her here: [URL]https://www.gparena.net/td-show.php?t=11507[/URL].

And Lia is an example of a profile that I would think was fake, unless it had reviews. (She changed numbers to there are no reviews registered on her now.) [URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/liberdade/namoradinha-com-garganta-profunda-demorada-e-babadinho-id-8ddr2[/URL].

But with this I think of scammed as fake pictures / switched girl / not giving the services stated.

To avoid getting really scammed: burner phone with burner number, don't bring CC cards, more money than necessary, jewellery, wristwatches and so on.

[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2925904]Any advice on using Photoacomphantes without being scammed or baited & switched? You hear very differing things about PA on this site. Some like you use it with good results, others think total scam waste. I can come up with my own safeguards but used to Asia and not sure what girls in Brazil will tolerate as far as giving comfort they're legit.

Also anyone educate me on what "no frills" means? Never heard the term outside Brazil.[/QUOTE]

Day 6 continued.

After some dinner and sightseeing I went to the hotel to rest a bit before scandallo.

I came to Scandallo around 2130 on a Monday. It was unexpectedly many people there, all areas were open.

Perhaps 155 guys, but still more girls roaming around. I found a seat and started scanning the room. A japhina caught my eye. We talked for a while and decided to go upstairs.

She was smiling and had a good vibe. But we just didn't click on the bed. Perhaps I was expecting a more japanese girl.

BJ, cowgirl, doggie, reverse cowgirl, missionary, back to BJ and try to finish HJ.

Time ran out. Good session, just not great.

800 brl 1 hour.

6/10 will not repeat.

Go down to the bar area again and order a drink. A beautiful black haired, short petite girl caught my eye. She came to my table, and it turned out she was from Paraguay. I've have a low key goal on my bucket list to fuck atleast one girl from each country in the world. Time to tick Paraguay off the list.

So we negotiated the price for one hour. She started at 2000, I counter 700, she goes to 1500, I counter 800. After a while she came to 1200. I knew I needed more than one hour and a blue pill to do this. And it was getting late, the clock was around 0100. So I said OK to 1200 for the whole night back at my hotel.

Back to my hotel where she wanted to ligth up a joint. But she had an empty lighter and trying to ligth a joint with a iron didn't work. So after leaving everything and just bringing the roomkey we went out in the sao paulo night and risked our lives to get a lighte. We meet some streetworkerse a short distance from my hotel. And they gave her their ligther. We headed back and lit up the joint. We took a quick shower and started. Start with a good BJ over to cowgirl, doggie, reverse cowgirl, missionary, valedictorian pound town, and so on. After 2 hours she started to get tired. So I was thinking of just going to sleep and trying again in the morning. But she wanted to go. I got annoyed because that was not the deal. But I can't do anything about that. We hugged and she went home.

The sex was fantastic, intimate and intense. Too bad I couldn't finish. Sometimes I wish I could be more normal and blow in 20 minutes.

1200 for 4 hours.

Sex 8/10.

But some minus points as I definitely translated to her. "1200 for overnight".

Day7.

Isis.

I found another girl on [URL]photoacompanhantes.com[/URL].

She had one good review from gp-arena. I contacted her through WhatsApp and agreed on meeting in a short time hotel in Santana. The Salete hotel (tiny, old, rundown, not recommended.).

She arrived 40 minutes late, blaming the late uber. Not smiling or serviceminded when she came into the room. When she took off her clothes it was apparent that the photos were photoshopped. She has a lot of tattoos, pimples on her face and a couple of five kilos more weight.

She is not ugly, but the advertisement is false. She does not do the advertised services either, so it was a total miss. Should have ejected this one on contact.

Misery seldom travels alone. 30 minutes after completing the appointment, I had to go to the hospital due to loss of feeling in my leg and back pain. 2 days on morphine at the hospital. To top it off I don't get high from morphine.

1/10 - will not do again.

Day 8.

I had an appointment with mulatto from day6 - [URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/bela-vista/ninfeta-bunduda-engole-leite-com-com-local-id-m9udp[/URL].

Since I wanted to fuck her after the CIM a couple of days ago. But I was still in the hospital and had to cancel. But we'll come back to her.

Day 9.

Lia again.

While in the Hospital I made a 2 hour appointment with Lia again. I wanted to try her deep throat. The discharge from the hospital took forever. And I made the appointment just in time.

New short time hotel, because the last one was full. Lido plaza hotel in Liberdade is a really nice place, big screen tv and service. Very clean, good service.

She prepared her throat with a numbing spray and started sucking. She went deep and gagged beautifully on my cock. She looks up at you with her big bambi eyes while her cheeks are in deep suction.

I lift her over in a 69 and lick her tight little pussy and finger her until she needs the the the. In Cowgirl I grab her ass and slide her up and down my dick. When she goes for long strokes I see the pussy grip on ny cock, her labia is protruding, just gripping my cock as she slides her tight little pussy up from my cock. Continue with several positions before I finish spectacularly in missionary with my pounding her and grabbing her shoulders to slam her into me while she moans intensely.

We lay down to chat. While I was in doggie I saw her tight little asshole and I wanted in. Even if anal was not listed as her services. She tells me she could do it with someone she trusted. I ask her is she trusts me and she says yeah. So now I have to have that little asshole. Next time.

800 brl, 2 hours with deep throat.

9/10 will do again.

Day 10.

Second date with tinder girl from day4.

A no-frills product or a service is basic and has no extra or unnecessary details.

But I think you are asking about the translated version of "andão tenho frescura" that as far as I interpret means she isn't picky or isn't too strict. As she won't be too controlling about positions what and how you do / to her. But beware, my portoguese is not top notch.

[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2925904]Any advice on using Photoacomphantes without being scammed or baited & switched? You hear very differing things about PA on this site. Some like you use it with good results, others think total scam waste. I can come up with my own safeguards but used to Asia and not sure what girls in Brazil will tolerate as far as giving comfort they're legit.

Also anyone educate me on what "no frills" means? Never heard the term outside Brazil.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NiceFjords;2926593]A no-frills product or a service is basic and has no extra or unnecessary details.

But I think you are asking about the translated version of "ando tenho frescura" that as far as I interpret means she isn't picky or isn't too strict. As she won't be too controlling about positions what and how you do / to her. But beware, my portoguese is not top notch.[/QUOTE]It means something like she will make the session better, not worse. This is the best explanation I have read from another senior member here. For example, payment before like the high end clinica is doing is making it worse for the customer. The regular clinica is sem frecura in this aspect because it is pay after and that is the what we expect normally. You can say the same thing about BBBJ and kissing too.

Adequate translations: "no shenanigans" , "no bad surprise", "no taking for a ride".

Note that there's no such thing as "andão tenho frescura" in Portuguese. "Andão" is not a Portuguese word nor one you can build by conjugating a verb. "Andam tendo" would mean "are being/doing".

My day one was pretty good for being a first timer.

I still have 0 understanding of this language. I like spanish a lot better and this place frustrates me sometimes. But the people are still friendly, so there is that.

My second day I was convinced by a girl to rent a room. Went to Hotel Lido. 4 hours for are $150. The room was clean and nice! The 24 hour prices are expensive though. If they were not so expensive I would prefer to stay here honestly.

The first girl came, and she advertised $R100/ hour. She was fatter and uglier than the photos. After we finished first time she asked how long I want her there. I told her I want her to leave immediately LOL.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/santana/morena-fogosa-peituda-especialista-em-boquete-ultimos-dias-id-vs65f[/URL]

1/10 would not repeat or recommend. In addition, I ended up paying her roughly $R250 to get her the fuck out of the room.

I can't yet find the other girl I had. I was rushing to find someone to finish before the 4 H was up. She was better looking than the first girl, but not really htat great. A lot of the girls that advertise deep throat either cannot actually do it or theyonly do it for 5 minutes before trying to put the condom on.

3/10 wouild be repeat or recommend. She was a butterface also.

By this time, I was not really happy about my trip to SP. I know I was told to stick to clinicas and scandello or whatever but I wasn't excited about the prices.

Day 3:

I forget who I went to earlier in the day, but at night I found a girl at this house:

Rua dr mario cardim n256 vila mariana.

The Vila Mariana part is important as there is one in another vila. Also, don't trust google maps completely as it took me to a slum area. I walked into this alleyway that had more alleyways. There were so many doors and people around and a tight corridor where two people could barely pass each other. I'm not sure if its a favela or whatever but luckily nobody stopped me or anything.

I won't tell you which girl does it here, as she is not very pretty. But she does BBFS. I think a country is a bit busted if you cannot even get BBFS. The idea of paying over $100 USD for sex with a condom is absolutely retarded.

So naturally I saw her again the next day! There are multiple girls at that location. They will come to unlock, then lock again once you are inside. If this scares you, do not even go there.

Day 4:

Found on photoacompanhantas a bunch of girls at this address: Rua Henrique Bernadelli 119, Santana (Nearest station is Santana, in the neighborhood called santana!

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/santana/loira-oriental-sofisticada-para-homens-de-bom-gosto-id-gftqu[/URL]

This is one of them. They charge are $170 in the hotel check in. I'd never been to a place like this before. So This was interesting. I had the girls name from the phone and a different one came. I think I pronounced it wrong or something. Either way for this price its pretty good and did include BBBJ and multiple pops. I left after one as, once again, I'm not impressed by condom stuff.

Later went on to finish in my BBFS girl.

Day 5:

To get to clinica yankin you can put 'clinica yankin' in google maps and it should take you right there. Only 2 blocks from Ana Rosa station.

Are. Dr. José de Queirós Aranha, 148 - Vila Mariana, São Paulo. SP, 04106-061.

Finally made it to a clinica. Clinica Yankin. When I got there (using google maps), I thought it was a bar or something because I'd never really seen so many guys bundled around before and I almost walked out. Luckily the guy at the reception spoke english and asked me if I wanted to see girls. I said sure and asked how it worked here. He's got a list of names and you pick the one you want. Lots of guys just sitting there waiting. Possibly for their favorite girl to be ready or something IDK.

I chose Kelly. A thicker girl with very limited english. We used translator (some girls are too dumb to even use translator, but she was pretty smart). And she's even got a nice personality! Yes some stomach fat but her BBBJ was amazing. She never quit on me. I didn't even do sex because her BBBJ was so gentle on me she kept me in that zone before you cum for like 10 minutes. Then when it came time to cum she tightened her lips together. She never quit. I had to beg her to stop. Everything came out and I asked her to marry me.

The prices were are $200 for an hour or $R150 for a half hour. The thing is, you do not prepay! So if you only use half an hour you only pay half an hour. Holy shit the best system ever! So yeah the buzzer went off right after I came. I asked her how to pay because I didn't even know at the time. She told me to pay up front. I tipped her are $50. In total I paid $200 (remmber 150 for the half hour) so that's only 40 USD haha! What a bargain.

It was Sunday, so I wanted to go to my BBFS girl but she left early. So I went to try to get a girl from the 320 whatever street to do BBFS and no luck.

Most girls who I asked from photoacompanhantas for BBFS have either said no or cursed me out and saying bad things about my mommy.

You are a brave man, I like your style.

Scandallo has some hot and beautiful girls. But I agree the prices are a little insane, even with bargaining.

When I got them out of scandallo I got a little more bang for my buck.

I'm a fan of BBFS too, but I did not do it in Sao Paulo.

In the adverts of some of the best girls I found on photoacompanhantes its also said specifically "don't ask about no condom. " So, I don't pressure the matter.

I guess it's a cultural thing down there.

The best places for BBFS that I have been to were: Phillipines, Thailand, Tokyo and New York.

[QUOTE=Arthasboi;2926770]My day one was pretty good for being a first timer.

I still have 0 understanding of this language. I like spanish a lot better and this place frustrates me sometimes. But the people are still friendly, so there is that.

My second day I was convinced by a girl to rent a room. Went to Hotel Lido. 4 hours for are $150. The room was clean and nice! The 24 hour prices are expensive though. If they were not so expensive I would prefer to stay here honestly.

The first girl came, and she advertised $R100/ hour. She was fatter and uglier than the photos. After we finished first time she asked how long I want her there. I told her I want her to leave immediately LOL.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/santana/morena-fogosa-peituda-especialista-em-boquete-ultimos-dias-id-vs65f[/URL]

1/10 would not repeat or recommend. In addition, I ended up paying her roughly $R250 to get her the fuck out of the room.[/QUOTE]Yes, I'm not sure where "Ando" came from as I wrote "Naõ", but some text changes when I do a "preview report".

[QUOTE=XXL;2926716]Adequate translations: "no shenanigans" , "no bad surprise", "no taking for a ride".

Note that there's no such thing as "ando tenho frescura" in Portuguese. "Ando" is not a Portuguese word nor one you can build by conjugating a verb. "Andam tendo" would mean "are being/doing".[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NiceFjords;2926847]You are a brave man, I like your style. (: D).

Scandallo has some hot and beautiful girls. But I agree the prices are a little insane, even with bargaining.

When I got them out of scandallo I got a little more bang for my buck.

I'm a fan of BBFS too, but I did not do it in Sao Paulo.

In the adverts of some of the best girls I found on photoacompanhantes its also said specifically "don't ask about no condom. " So, I don't pressure the matter.

I guess it's a cultural thing down there.

The best places for BBFS that I have been to were: Phillipines, Thailand, Tokyo and New York.

Yes, I'm not sure where "Ando" came from as I wrote "Na", but some text changes when I do a "preview report".[/QUOTE]New York? Off of escort sites or something?

[QUOTE=Trojan22;2926965]New York? Off of escort sites or something?[/QUOTE]The price is usually 400-600 depending on the girl. It comes with table showers rimming BBBJ all the works and then 2 pops.

I know we all like to complain about girl inflation but with the weakness of the Real it's really not so much. Back in 2019 top girls were getting 800 and the dollar was 4:1. So $200 USD. Of late it's been 5:1. But I just checked and now it's 5. 6:1!

So a 1200 R girl (going rate) is only $215 USD. Five years later. Seems like a great deal to me!

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2927185]I know we all like to complain about girl inflation but with the weakness of the Real it's really not so much. Back in 2019 top girls were getting 800 and the dollar was 4:1. So $200 USD. Of late it's been 5:1. But I just checked and now it's 5. 6:1!

So a 1200 R girl (going rate) is only $215 USD. Five years later. Seems like a great deal to me![/QUOTE]So the question is, where do you go to get that 5. 6 to 1 rate or anything close to it? Because it ain't at the bank in the US. I checked the rates at Chase this week and its about 4. 95 to 1 after fees.

Exchange rates are just theoretical unless you know a place where you can actually exchange money for that rate.

In Lima, there is a place called Capital Exchange located on Av. Canaval why Moreyra 233. They actually exchanged at above market rate when I visited in early June. The rate on Google was 3. 74 soles per dollar that day and they gave me 3. 75 with no fees at all. The rate was 3. 78 the day before.

Does anyone know of any place like that in Brazil?

[QUOTE=KapnAmerica;2927205]So the question is, where do you go to get that 5. 6 to 1 rate or anything close to it? Because it ain't at the bank in the US. I checked the rates at Chase this week and its about 4. 95 to 1 after fees.

Exchange rates are just theoretical unless you know a place where you can actually exchange money for that rate.

In Lima, there is a place called Capital Exchange located on Av. Canaval why Moreyra 233. They actually exchanged at above market rate when I visited in early June. The rate on Google was 3. 74 soles per dollar that day and they gave me 3. 75 with no fees at all. The rate was 3. 78 the day before.

Does anyone know of any place like that in Brazil?[/QUOTE]Best rate I could get in SP was at Seattle Turismo, are. Oscar Freire, 146 B. Jardim Paulista. No passport needed. It's a ten minutes' walk from Shopping Pamplona.

[QUOTE=KapnAmerica;2927205]So the question is, where do you go to get that 5. 6 to 1 rate or anything close to it? Because it ain't at the bank in the US. I checked the rates at Chase this week and its about 4. 95 to 1 after fees.

Exchange rates are just theoretical unless you know a place where you can actually exchange money for that rate.

In Lima, there is a place called Capital Exchange located on Av. Canaval why Moreyra 233. They actually exchanged at above market rate when I visited in early June. The rate on Google was 3. 74 soles per dollar that day and they gave me 3. 75 with no fees at all. The rate was 3. 78 the day before.

Does anyone know of any place like that in Brazil?[/QUOTE]I always use ATM and decline local conversion. My bank gives me close to market rates that way. Anytime you do physical conversion the rates are always worse.

But regardless the point is the same. The relative cost of a Scandallo girl in USD has only gone up about 1. 5% a year since 2019 once you figure currency strength. That's a damn bargain. Thailand and German FKK have gone up much more.

[QUOTE=XXL;2927263]Best rate I could get in SP was at Seattle Turismo, are. Oscar Freire, 146 B. Jardim Paulista. No passport needed. It's a ten minutes' walk from Shopping Pamplona.[/QUOTE]I second this place. On my last trip, my delivery guy was unreachable so I called them up to ask about their rate. I was able to get a slightly better rate than what they quoted since I was changing a large amount and all the notes were in the new $100 notes.

I agree with you guys (Anaggie, Steve, & XXL). Seattle Turismo is a good place to go to exchange foreign cash for BR. They have always offered me a fair and honest FX rate and I only exchange clean, new US $100's with them. I also like their no BS approach to the transaction. They inform you of the rate. If it is ok, you give them your $$. They verify it is real and they count it in front of you. Then they hand you the correct amount in BR and you count it. If everything is OK, and it always is, the Transaction is over.

So, bringing Cash is easy and can work well in SP. Still, I prefer to use my Schwab zero fee ATM debit card for minimum 90% sourcing of funds when I travel. I have 2 reasons for preferring the debit card over cash: 1. I receive the best interbank FX rate available with the no fee debit card, and 2. I don't have to bring gobs of cash along on a trip. On my typical 6-to-7-week trips to SP, twice a year, I bring only $1,000 cash for emergency purposes. That's all. But before I obtained a no ATM fee debit card, I used to have to bring $10,000 US or more on my typical SE Asian 10-to-12-week romps (pre debit card around 2012). I never got robbed or anything, but it was always a pain in the ass to have that much cash stashed in my various hotel room safes. Now, there is no reason to take on the risk when a better alternative exists. IMHO anyway.

But getting back to Seattle Turismo: there is a great variety of really tasty restaurants in the neighborhood, so I always time my visit to Seattle Turismo around lunchtime. I recommend, in no particular order; Z Deli, Piselli, DOM, Dalva e Dito, and Nakka Jardins. Eat hardy!

[QUOTE=KapnAmerica;2927205]So the question is, where do you go to get that 5. 6 to 1 rate or anything close to it? Because it ain't at the bank in the US. I checked the rates at Chase this week and its about 4. 95 to 1 after fees.

Exchange rates are just theoretical unless you know a place where you can actually exchange money for that rate.[/QUOTE]The exchange rate quoted by a bank in the United States is theoretical. No one should be exchanging foreign currency in the United States. I can't even think of when the convenience would be worth the terrible rates they quote.

Escorts probably do it too. But I never tried it in NY.

The first BBFS I had with a p2 p girl was in NY. She was young japanese girl, not good in English. She asked about extras and I said sure.

We kissed and then she jumps on top off me and goes down raw on my dick. I just froze in fear, because I told myself to always use condom.

But I got over it fast, and just yolo now.

These places are scattered around NY, some with tableshowers, all with beautiful Asians. And they got some other continents too, some Brazilian too.

360-380 $ 1 hour. BBFS 100-200 $ CIP 200 $ msrp. But you can negotiate with some.

If you search for 929-597-5999 you'll be on track to find your utopia.

Just be careful, it's addictive: the.

[QUOTE=Trojan22;2926965]New York? Off of escort sites or something?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KapnAmerica;2927205]So the question is, where do you go to get that 5. 6 to 1 rate or anything close to it? Because it ain't at the bank in the US. I checked the rates at Chase this week and its about 4. 95 to 1 after fees.

Exchange rates are just theoretical unless you know a place where you can actually exchange money for that rate.

In Lima, there is a place called Capital Exchange located on Av. Canaval why Moreyra 233. They actually exchanged at above market rate when I visited in early June. The rate on Google was 3. 74 soles per dollar that day and they gave me 3. 75 with no fees at all. The rate was 3. 78 the day before.

Does anyone know of any place like that in Brazil?[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=USD&to=BRL&view=1Y[/URL]

Use ATMs. Maybe you checked cash exchange rates at Chase.

Expect digital real in near future.

[QUOTE=Questner;2927471][URL]https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=USD&to=BRL&view=1Y[/URL]

Use ATMs. Maybe you checked cash exchange rates at Chase.

Expect digital real in near future.[/QUOTE]The best exchange rate I got was from Western Union at 5. 4 when the [URL]IE.com[/URL] rate was 5. 67. I went to travelex and they offered 5. 2 but on their website site they were showing 5. 99. I am sure some locals know where they can get better rates, just need those contacts.


Quick notes on Sampa from a Rio man

Sampa is a huge city and from my point of view here are the keys to Sampa

It’s all about the Clinicas, do your own research, find a few that u like, rinse and repeat

After hours clubs -garotas go there after they either get their first client or didn’t score at Scandallo and other high end places
I saw a few of them at Scandallo, after they were at Casarao the night before asking 300-500 Reais

Go to Scandallo to watch and make contacts

Scandallo -I went, I saw and despite all of the above ?? I allowed the little head to speak to me ( i will write a formal report later) lol

It seems you can now bring in up to 10k USD in cash without declaring it. I remember not so long ago this amount was much lower, like 10k Real instead of 10k USD. That's good news. I know I can get money with my credit cards but I like the feeling of "having it already at hand" that goes with cash.

[QUOTE=XXL;2927638]It seems you can now bring in up to 10k USD in cash without declaring it. I remember not so long ago this amount was much lower, like 10k Real instead of 10k USD. That's good news. I know I can get money with my credit cards but I like the feeling of "having it already at hand" that goes with cash.[/QUOTE]It's always been $10 K USD. People who were saying reals were wrong. It's been $10 K USD since I have been going to Brazil (nearly two decades), and I've done it many, many times myself. Brought in $10 grand in cash and never declared squat! Now I prefer to use the ATMs and still don't have to declare squat LOL!

[QUOTE=Questner;2927471][URL]https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=USD&to=BRL&view=1Y[/URL]

Use ATMs. Maybe you checked cash exchange rates at Chase.

Expect digital real in near future.[/QUOTE]I know about XE, and as far as I can tell, you can only use it to send money to foreign countries. That makes it practically worthless as a conversion tool.

Sure there are ATMs, but they usually have low daily withdrawal limits and charge fees.

In Lima, the Scotiabank ATM had a daily withdrawal limit of 400 soles, and charged a 25 sole fee to withdraw at a rate of 3. 53 soles per dollar. Withdrawing 400 soles would thus cost $120.

Right now the street from the bank was a place called Capital Excahnge. 3. 75 soles for dollar with no fees. 400 soles cost $106.

I assume it's the same deal in Brazil unless someone can tell me otherwise.

So that's why I am trying to locate a good cambio in Brazil, to avoid getting screwed by the ATM like I almost did in Peru. It seems my dollars are much more valuable to these independent cambios than they are to large banks.

Thanks for the suggestions everyone.

[QUOTE=KapnAmerica;2927723]...
Sure there are ATMs, but they usually have low daily withdrawal limits and charge fees.

...[/QUOTE]2 years ago Bradesco's ATMs were giving 2500 R per withdrawal, no fees. I hope they still do now.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2927658]It's always been $10 K USD. People who were saying reals were wrong. It's been $10 K USD since I have been going to Brazil (nearly two decades), and I've done it many, many times myself. Brought in $10 grand in cash and never declared squat! Now I prefer to use the ATMs and still don't have to declare squat LOL![/QUOTE]On my latest trip in 2022 I declared less than 10k USD at Guarulhos. Before that, in 2021, I declared currency upon entry AND upon leaving as I still had more than 10k R when I flew back. On no occasion did they tell me my declaration was not needed, as they surely would have done to spare themselves the paperwork if declaration indeed was not needed. Below is a screenshot from a TAP advisory, and from the US government's travel advisory at:

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-travel/International-Travel-Country-Information-Pages/Brazil.html

The 10k USD limit was enforced only recently, as from December 31st 2022, as show in the third screenshot. Have you really been in Brazil "many, many times" for decades as you say you have?

[QUOTE=XXL;2927751]2 years ago Bradesco's ATMs were giving 2500 R per withdrawal, no fees. I hope they still do now.[/QUOTE]As of this past April, they still were.

[QUOTE=XXL;2927781]The 10k USD limit was enforced only recently, as from December 31st 2022[/QUOTE]Don't know about before. It's 10 K USD now. There was a post on Facebook by someone who got caught at the airport. He was lucky and money wasn't confiscated.

Google this text to see the official description. 10K R is about the value of goods you can bring currently

I'm two hours into a four-hour afternoon session with my favorite two garotas session at Clinica Prime. Scheduled two-hour sessions in advance for an early afternoon with Karen and Nadia, two marathon sex pros superstars. You best have athletic sex stamina and good weed. At the top of each hour add in third garota ana clara or angela. Combinado!

A bunch of guys mostly asian sitting in the reception waiting for one of these popular garotas to free up. Ain't going to happen today fellas, I booked them for four to six hours. The TD is on gpguia for the Forista discount.

Three garotas, four to six hours, brisk night air of 58 F to 60 Fdegrees in Moema reminds me of Jan Bik's house in Amsterdam and Utrecht.

Hop off at Amsterdam Centraal Station brisk walk to JanBik, in the cold air. Walk up to the house on a quiet residential street. Ring the bell. Hugs and kisses with the receptionist. Boom take two or three Romanian chicas off the bat. Better to take three at a time before other horndogs show up. I can always throw the poor performer back into the pond. Damn those prices were fucking good. We stay in the room upstairs with the red light for four to six hours of sport fucking. Deposit leche into three eager Romanian mouths every hour. Haha.

Speaking of Ukrainian Romanians looking garotas in Sao Paulo, vila Olimpa area Clinica Lolla, Vani House clinica has a nice skinny ass pale ukrainian russian "looking" flat ass nineteen-year-old cutey Naty, Nate is a natural red hair top and bottom young cutie. The type I used to bang in Sharks FKK land the Romanian, Ukrainian types. Her wassap photos are attractive Ukraine girly next-door type. At Vani / Lolla the garota grabs the mops to clean the rooms themselves. A bit strange to see her on her knees scrubbing the shower.

Whatever. I did Duplo sessions with her and their useless Argentinian girlfriend. The front desk guy is pretty cool. Love Brasil, I had a hankering for two natural red hair, white pale young ukraine Russian looking garotas to deposit leche and bang her into pretzel shapes. Damn, she took everything like a champ and asked for more. More time another two hours. Boom done.

[QUOTE=XXL;2927781]On my latest trip in 2022 I declared less than 10k USD at Guarulhos. Before that, in 2021, I declared currency upon entry AND upon leaving as I still had more than 10k R when I flew back. On no occasion did they tell me my declaration was not needed, as they surely would have done to spare themselves the paperwork if declaration indeed was not needed. Below is a screenshot from a TAP advisory, and from the US government's travel advisory at:

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-travel/International-Travel-Country-Information-Pages/Brazil.html

The 10k USD limit was enforced only recently, as from December 31st 2022, as show in the third screenshot. Have you really been in Brazil "many, many times" for decades as you say you have?[/QUOTE]I sure have. And my posting history over the years here and elsewhere proves it. So don't even try to go there. I'm a veteran Brazil monger, every long term reader here knows it, so don't try it. And like I said, I brought in exactly $10 grand USD several times and never declared shit, and was never stopped and asked a thing. The supposed 10 grand reals limit was people not understanding the rules. I'm not one to flaunt the rules. It was easy to research, and I found it to be $10 grand USD. Think about it. A sum of 10,000 reals is such a relatively small sum of money. Doesn't even make any sense! But anyway who cares now with ATM cards that refund all fees. It's the better way to go versus carrying all of that cash.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2927783]Don't know about before. It's 10 K USD now. There was a post on Facebook by someone who got caught at the airport. He was lucky and money wasn't confiscated.

Google this text to see the official description. 10K R is about the value of goods you can bring currently[/QUOTE]1. XXL questioned my experience traveling to Brazil which is just silly. I earned my "trident" (Navy Seal lingo) a long time ago.

2. When I first started going to Brazil a long time ago my research told me (was a long time ago so don't recall where I found it) the currency limit was 10 thousand USD.

3. I did in fact travel to Brazil many, many, many times with exactly 10 thousand USD with me in my carry-on before I went exclusively with using ATMs.

4. I was never stopped or questioned even once, and that includes even after some times when my carry on was X-rayed and even hand inspected.

5. If the limit ever was 10 thousand reals then clearly nobody ever gave a flip about that LOL!

That's my personal experience over the years, so that's what I know. I had $10 grand USD in cash on me several times and nobody gave a damn! At any rate, it should be clear that as you say, now the limit is clearly $10 K USD. But why carry all of that money around? Get a good debit card that refunds fees and use the ATMs!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2927831]1. XXL questioned my experience traveling to Brazil which is just silly. I earned my "trident" (Navy Seal lingo) a long time ago.[/QUOTE]How do you think he question your experience? Maybe he only questioned this statement. Have you thought about that you both can be right about the facts? Just to clarify, the following quote is a statement based on the actual experience (fact), but it is not a fact about the rule.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2927658]It's always been $10 K USD[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=XXL;2927781]Have you really been in Brazil "many, many times" for decades as you say you have?[/QUOTE]Why is it that you ignore his last sentence? This is how he questions my years of experience.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2927907]Have you thought about that you both can be right about the facts?[/QUOTE]And yes, I have thought about that. Maybe there was a time when de jure (as a matter of law) it was 10,000 reals. But I'm telling you that de facto (in reality), if it was then it absolutely was not being enforced. I routinely brought in $10,000 USD, didn't declare it, and nobody cared but me. You see $10 grand can procure a [B]whole lot[/B] of pretty, branca butt holes. Aaaahahaha!

Changing the subject: one girl is telling me that if a clinica knows she is seeing a clinica customer outside the clinica, she gets blacklisted and cannot work in ANY clinica any more. The girl tells me she even gets blacklisted by boates like Cafe Photo and Scandallo. This is something you would expect more in Thailand with the barfine system than in Brazil.

So if we were seeing a girl outside the venue, not a hint about it to the venue and neither to any other girl lest the other girl tells management.

Then again, this girl may be exaggerating.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2927783]Don't know about before. It's 10 K USD now. There was a post on Facebook by someone who got caught at the airport. He was lucky and money wasn't confiscated.[/QUOTE]It seems to have recently changed from BRL to USD. As recently as 9/2023 it was BRL because I looked it up as part of a post in the Rio forum. Now the same page says USD. I checked the Internet WayBack machine and the only copy is from 10/14/2022, and it was BRL back then.

[URL]https://web.archive.org/web/20221014223723mp_/https://www.gov.br/mre/pt-br/consulado-londres/useful-information/visiting-brazil[/URL]#money.

[QUOTE=XXL;2927961]Changing the subject: one girl is telling me that if a clinica knows she is seeing a clinica customer outside the clinica, she gets blacklisted and cannot work in ANY clinica any more. The girl tells me she even gets blacklisted by boates like Cafe Photo and Scandallo. This is something you would expect more in Thailand with the barfine system than in Brazil.

So if we were seeing a girl outside the venue, not a hint about it to the venue and neither to any other girl lest the other girl tells management.

Then again, this girl may be exaggerating.[/QUOTE]I don't know much about clinicas but what doesn't make sense here to me is that during my only visit at Scandallo, after finishing a session upstairs I started looking for more attractive girls to see if they're willing to schedule something on a different day when I have full stamina back. Out of about a dozen girls I approached like that only two refused to give me their whatsapp / instagram. That would suggest Scandallo doesn't ban girls that meet up with clients outside of their venue, so why would they care how the ladies from other places do their business?

I'm thinking the same thing.

Clinica girls and scandallo girls asked for my number and they wanted to meet outside the venue, they never mentioned anything about blacklisting?

Maybe there are just some specific clinicas that does it? And as far as I know Scandallo girls pay entry and are independent operators?

[QUOTE=BangKoker;2928081]I don't know much about clinicas but what doesn't make sense here to me is that during my only visit at Scandallo, after finishing a session upstairs I started looking for more attractive girls to see if they're willing to schedule something on a different day when I have full stamina back. Out of about a dozen girls I approached like that only two refused to give me their whatsapp / instagram. That would suggest Scandallo doesn't ban girls that meet up with clients outside of their venue, so why would they care how the ladies from other places do their business?[/QUOTE]Agree. I have a credit card I use almost exclusively for ATMs, because the waive the fees for the transaction. When I was in SP I used the Banco Itaú, zero fees and the exchange rate was right on the [URL]xe.com[/URL] rate. You could take out from 2000 to 1500 BRL depending on the ATM location.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2927831] But why carry all of that money around? Get a good debit card that refunds fees and use the ATMs![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=XXL;2927961]Changing the subject: one girl is telling me that if a clinica knows she is seeing a clinica customer outside the clinica, she gets blacklisted and cannot work in ANY clinica any more. The girl tells me she even gets blacklisted by boates like Cafe Photo and Scandallo. This is something you would expect more in Thailand with the barfine system than in Brazil.

So if we were seeing a girl outside the venue, not a hint about it to the venue and neither to any other girl lest the other girl tells management.

Then again, this girl may be exaggerating.[/QUOTE]I checked with ten Scandalo garotas I have known for 3 years or more. Four said definitely happens, two said sounds true cause they heard rumors, two nope does not happen, the last two are scandalo garotas from the hood that will bust a beer bottle to tag your ass, explained how the chicas can get around it if she wants to. Hahaha.

YMMV.

The SWISS NAVY brand of honey traps will be glad to recruit from those who were blacklisted, especially the beer bottle castrating hoars, we pay extra for beer bottle kills, but we require video.

Can you imagine a fully naked hard core porn version of Insurgency Sandstorm in which.

All the scenarios are at Brazilian prostitution zones, Santos, SP, Rio, Salvador, Porto Allegre with.

Hoars naked with guns who will also have a special weapon, the beer bottle to cut off your balls.

They wear balls around their necks as prizes.

Quentin Tarantino call your office, Mambo Perv and John Stagliano are on the line.

[QUOTE=Tochka;2928146]I checked with ten Scandalo garotas I have known for 3 years or more. Four said definitely happens, two said sounds true cause they heard rumors, two nope does not happen, the last two are scandalo garotas from the hood that will bust a beer bottle to tag your ass, explained how the chicas can get around it if she wants to. Hahaha.

YMMV.[/QUOTE]

Day11.

New tinderdate early in the day.

At night. Taking a scandallo girl out to dinner. When she was ready to be ubered over. I had a hard time finding a restaurant that was open after 2300. So, we ended up in a 24 hour bakery, still good food. Back in the room the passion was at 9000.

I almost came under BJ, then almost under 69. We then just fucked for hours until I hit her cervix so hard that she puked, which was a first for the both of us. Then we cuddle a bit and continue fucking gently. I came while fingering her ass while she moaned.

1300 brl, uber and a sandwich for 5 hours.

But I know she did not anticipate being that long.

9/10 would do again.

Day12.

Lia. (In the initial chat she specifically stated that she did not do anal. So don't expect anal on the first meeting).

2 hours with anal and deep throat. I could not stop thinking about that starfish from our previous encounter.

We met at lido plaza hotel. I got a room with a jacuzzi, the interior is better than my 4 star hotel. We start with a deep throat; she swallows the entire length with tears in her bambi eyes as she gags. I ask if she wants facefuck, she says it's extra because it's difficult for her, I regret not going for it. She takes a few more sprays of the deep throat spray and we continue in 69. I start fingering her tight little asshole. Two fingers deep in her ass, one in her pussy and my thumb and tongue on her clit.

She's ready for anal. And what I show. Start slow in doggie and then push her forward into spread eagle, interlock legs and spread her legs and just go to town. She seems to really like anal, she's gripping the bed sheets, moaning and wriggling and cumming. Switch to valedictorian. I go deep and can see her face as she tries to hold back her moans, until her legs give out, missionary and then doggie. She's shy, but after a while when I ask if her little asshole is cumming on my cock, she nods.

After an hour of anal her ass is a bit sore. It's okay and I'm a little impressed that she didn't complain. Rest for a bit then start fucking her pussy. It's even tighter than her ass, and warm. She responds well and I feel her pussy tighten when she comes. Really good, even if I didn't cum. But forgot my really thin condoms and had to use normal ones. Note: I see that her advert updated after our meeting and now says that anal sex is a normal service. Did I create a new anal * I like to think so.

1000 brl, 2 hours anal and deepthroat.

9/10 will do again.

[QUOTE=XXL;2927961]Changing the subject: one girl is telling me that if a clinica knows she is seeing a clinica customer outside the clinica, she gets blacklisted and cannot work in ANY clinica any more. The girl tells me she even gets blacklisted by boates like Cafe Photo and Scandallo. This is something you would expect more in Thailand with the barfine system than in Brazil.

So if we were seeing a girl outside the venue, not a hint about it to the venue and neither to any other girl lest the other girl tells management.

Then again, this girl may be exaggerating.[/QUOTE]Absolutely no issues getting the girls' numbers at Scandallo.

If she doesn't give it to you, it's usually because she has domestic commitments. Boyfriend / Husband etc.

I don't go to Clinicas, so can't say. But would make sense if it's not allowed there.

Hi guys, new here but not new to our hobby. Planning a trip late October, will do my homework (logistics seem to be the top priority and Sunday is going to church day LOL) and then ask annoying newbie questions with the promise of FR. Sounds like an amazing place to visit, looking forward to it! Anyone needs help with FKKs, Thailand or China feel free to hit me via DM.

Hey everyone, long time reader, first time poster. I'm heading down to SP this week, planning to have a great time, much in part thanks to the learnings acquired in this forum. If anyone would like to meet for a beer and exchange war stories, let me know.

I've been to SP many times but never heard of Scandalo, so this will be my first time visiting that amazing place. I'm mostly into meeting girls via SeekingArrangement and visiting Clinicas, so as to build a nice roster. We'll see what Scandalo can add to the lineup. Thanks to everyone who has contributed here so far, you've added tons to my knowledge.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2928153]The SWISS NAVY brand of honey traps will be glad to recruit from those who were blacklisted, especially the beer bottle castrating hoars, we pay extra for beer bottle kills, but we require video.

Can you imagine a fully naked hard core porn version of Insurgency Sandstorm in which.

All the scenarios are at Brazilian prostitution zones, Santos, SP, Rio, Salvador, Porto Allegre with.

Hoars naked with guns who will also have a special weapon, the beer bottle to cut off your balls.

They wear balls around their necks as prizes.

Quentin Tarantino call your office, Mambo Perv and John Stagliano are on the line.[/QUOTE]Keyser Soze shit.

Damn, the garotas in my wassap group are going on and on about this topic. Frickn long ass pages of wassap messages.

It's like asking about Keyser Soze, half definitely yes its true the other half no it's a rumor but heard about it and believe it, the other half it's a friggin rumors total bullshit, the hardcore hood garotas all said they don't give a fuck cause they out to make money. One garota messaged worried. Is she burned, is she found out? I said no sweety, relief emojis. Keyser Soze. Shit for sure. Another said she is sick of the shitty games the owners play.

Don't know either way. The hood Chicas ain't messing around, she started posting target practice shots with a Taurus Th in Clube de Tiro 300 range. She is damn straight-up hood. One time at Panda, I forgot to tell her I scheduled two Chicas with her for threesome. By coincidence they met in panda lobby same time. When receptionist told them both they here to see the same guy. She said who Is this other fuckingg puteria. She flew into jealous brasilian rage, and grabbed the pipishell coat rack in the lobby ready to wack the other garota with a body shot. She is a hot-blooded hood chica for damn sure. We laugh about now, a year later. She is Beautiful exotic intoxicating as hell and would be sexy dangerous with a melee weapon. Haha kkk.

Besides She likes fucking roughneck mofos, no simps. Ya Better have steel balls, a spine and stiff dick to tame her. We have been hooking up for two and half years now. Approach with caution kkk haha. Vagbundo you are damn close. She cosplays as the sexy warrior mele chick in those first person games on camera prive. She gets paid!!

No dudes not sharing her contacts. Get your own hood gangsta garota kkkkk haha.

YMMV your experience will vary, your garota may have different stories and experiences, and you may get a different response from a one-night stand garota than a two or three-year hardcore GDP or hood garota YMMV. Only sharing mine.

[QUOTE=NiceFjords;2926580]To minimize the risk of getting scammed / tricked on photoacompanhantes would suggest the following:

Use filter "Filter de pesquisa with the option "Com TD positivos".

That way you will only get the ones that have positive review from one of the review sites.

If you want to be surer, then read the review if the girl only has one / a few and check that the reviewer has more review under his belt. Or at least click in and see that there are no other negative reviews on her. Search her number on [URL]www.gp-guia.net[/URL] or [URL]www.gparena.net[/URL].

I would also trust a girl that will go to a hotel more than a girl that only takes appointment in her place. Since her travelling and getting rejected is more work than staying at home.

Some girls will take a videocall before appointment to ensure it's really them.

I got "tricked" once with a girl that had a fake positive review. I should have walked away, but she was not ugly, just had photoshopped away acne and tattoos. You'll find her here: [URL]https://www.gparena.net/td-show.php?t=11507[/URL].

And Lia is an example of a profile that I would think was fake, unless it had reviews. (She changed numbers to there are no reviews registered on her now.) [URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/liberdade/namoradinha-com-garganta-profunda-demorada-e-babadinho-id-8ddr2[/URL].

But with this I think of scammed as fake pictures / switched girl / not giving the services stated.

To avoid getting really scammed: burner phone with burner number, don't bring CC cards, more money than necessary, jewellery, wristwatches and so on.[/QUOTE]Good commonsense advice similar to what I've used outside Brazil. Thank you.

Has anyone ever been to the following spot: Clinica Laranja.

[URL]https://clinicalaranja.com.br/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/clinicalaranja/[/URL]

Rua Heliodora, 94 D. Santana.

[QUOTE=CatBert55;2927967]It seems to have recently changed from BRL to USD. As recently as 9/2023 it was BRL because I looked it up as part of a post in the Rio forum. Now the same page says USD. I checked the Internet WayBack machine and the only copy is from 10/14/2022, and it was BRL back then.

[URL]https://web.archive.org/web/20221014223723mp_/https://www.gov.br/mre/pt-br/consulado-londres/useful-information/visiting-brazil[/URL]#money.[/QUOTE]Yes. This screenshot is from 2022.

Day13.

No early action today as I was busy changing Hotels. Talked to a match on bumble, and we were considering a date in the afternoon. But she had to go to work early tomorrow, so we'll try again tomorrow.

So I go to scandallo around 2100. Talked to a girl from Venezuela with good English. Originally I was thinking of going with another girl, but since I have a low key goal of at least one girl from each country, Venezuela is completed. Up to the room, start with a shower and some DFK and fooling around in the shower. In the bed she starts deep throating and eventually facefucking. She had to wipe her mouth a couple of times since the saliva was oozing out of her mouth. 69 fingering, cowgirl with good energy, doggie, missionary, BJ, missionary and just finished with some cuddle. 1 hour is too short, but it was enjoyable.

800 brl 1 hour.

7/10.

Day14.

Last day in Sao Paulo.

First a meet with bumblee girl. She worked nearby so she came to lunch at my hotel room.

Then around 1700 I go to the mulatto girl from day 6. I had to fuck her before I left Sao Paulo and now I regret not doing it before.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com[/URL] - Juliana Maia.

When I came through the door I gave her a hug and a kiss, that turned into DFK and fingering her from behind standing by the door. Quick shower. Her English is not very good. But she's happy and horny.

Kissing and fingering on the bed, she responds well, she's so wet and warm. Her BJ has good suction, lick the balls and good use of hands. I like to grab her curly hair and gently facefuck her. I flip her towards me so I can finger her while she sucks. We have a good and long foreplay. She's ready to be fucked. Get my thin condoms and put her in a valedictorian and pound away. Her sweet moans and seeing her grasp the bed linens. Switch to missionary, where I brush her hair aside to see her cute little face making grimaces and biting her lip. Doing her in doggie, before forcing her down on her stomach to just pound away while I pull her lovely curly hair. Continue with cowgirl before BJ and lightly facefuck until I come in her little mouth and she swallows everything.

We chat for a while, but quickly start kissing each other again and it gets hard again. We just fuck until I have to remind her that time is running out. Too bad I have to jump in an uber and meet the last girl.

600 BRL 2 hours with CIM swallow.

9/10 - Should do again.

I made my last appointment in Sao Paulo with a girl I met at scandallo. Really good english. I've been chatting with her since I met her. She gives good value for money outside scandallo. I can be a little more rough with her, and she loves it.

My visit to Sao Paulo is over. Too bad my injury prevented me from visiting Rio.

But I found a couple of diamonds and I'm overall happy with the visit. I'll probably come back to Brazil.

1.

[URL]www.photoacompanhantes.com[/URL]

All but one of the girls were excellent. Really good service.

Pro: Medium prices.

Cons: If you do girls without reviews / fake review you can get tricked. Its a little bit safer to go with reviewed garotas.

2.

Scandallo.

You will find a girl to your liking, but the sex is not guaranteed to be good. I had some meh sessions. Maybe because the girl is thinking she should get back on the floor to see if she finds a sucker that pays 2000.

Pro: Lots of hot and beautiful girls, excellent staff, high-end place.

Cons: Overpriced, more value if you get them out of scandallo.

3.

Clinicas.

I had good experiences here. But it's a crapshoot if there are any at each clinca.

Pro: good prices, easy.

Cons: hit and miss if you find a girl you like / want to fuck in one clinca.

Vagabundo went swimming with ISG wwwe tonight, it was great. Went to Praia Macumba.

OK, then I went to Paris with my wingman. Here are the relevant details.

Entrada now 55 r at paris.

Best to arrive after midnight. Interactive live lesbian sex Show with free tequila 01 h. Got best numbers. Wow talent!!

Now, to your point, the two girls who did the show were like MMA jiu jitsu pole dancing weapons.

Now, those chicks could do jiu jitsu and snap your neck and blow out your knee.

So, they gave me two shots of tequila while 69 ing with me on stage, fun!

Vagabundo got numbers, man the talent is off the hook! Man what hot new talent.

OK, so totally agree.

TOmorrow Vagabundo is meeting Amber Lynn at a centro hotel for a morning session. She wants me to shave my balls and my beard, so maybe.

Great day. Let's keep talking about the video game / sex cross over. This is a big market.

[QUOTE=Tochka;2928771]Keyser Soze shit.

Damn, the garotas in my wassap group are going on and on about this topic. Frickn long ass pages of wassap messages.

It's like asking about Keyser Soze, half definitely yes its true the other half no it's a rumor but heard about it and believe it, the other half it's a friggin rumors total bullshit, the hardcore hood garotas all said they don't give a fuck cause they out to make money. One garota messaged worried. Is she burned, is she found out? I said no sweety, relief emojis. Keyser Soze. Shit for sure. Another said she is sick of the shitty games the owners play.

Don't know either way. The hood Chicas ain't messing around, she started posting target practice shots with a Taurus Th in Clube de Tiro 300 range. She is damn straight-up hood. One time at Panda, I forgot to tell her I scheduled two Chicas with her for threesome. By coincidence they met in panda lobby same time. When receptionist told them both they here to see the same guy. She said who Is this other fuckingg puteria. She flew into jealous brasilian rage, and grabbed the pipishell coat rack in the lobby ready to wack the other garota with a body shot. She is a hot-blooded hood chica for damn sure. We laugh about now, a year later. She is Beautiful exotic intoxicating as hell and would be sexy dangerous with a melee weapon. Haha kkk.

Besides She likes fucking roughneck mofos, no simps. Ya Better have steel balls, a spine and stiff dick to tame her. We have been hooking up for two and half years now. Approach with caution kkk haha. Vagbundo you are damn close. She cosplays as the sexy warrior mele chick in those first person games on camera prive. She gets paid!!

No dudes not sharing her contacts. Get your own hood gangsta garota kkkkk haha.

YMMV your experience will vary, your garota may have different stories and experiences, and you may get a different response from a one-night stand garota than a two or three-year hardcore GDP or hood garota YMMV. Only sharing mine.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NiceFjords;2929060]Day13.

[b]My visit to Sao Paulo is over. Too bad my injury prevented me from visiting Rio.[/b]
But I found a couple of diamonds and I'm overall happy with the visit. I'll probably come back to Brazil.

1.

[URL]www.photoacompanhantes.com[/URL]

All but one of the girls were excellent. Really good service.

Pro: Medium prices.

Cons: If you do girls without reviews / fake review you can get tricked. Its a little bit safer to go with reviewed garotas.

2.

Scandallo.

You will find a girl to your liking, but the sex is not guaranteed to be good. I had some meh sessions. Maybe because the girl is thinking she should get back on the floor to see if she finds a sucker that pays 2000.

Pro: Lots of hot and beautiful girls, excellent staff, high-end place.

Cons: Overpriced, more value if you get them out of scandallo.

3.

Clinicas.

I had good experiences here. But it's a crapshoot if there are any at each clinca.

Pro: good prices, easy.

Cons: hit and miss if you find a girl you like / want to fuck in one clinca.[/QUOTE]Overall good series of posts chronicling your adventures in SP. You presented information that is actionable to all. (The only exception is when commenting on GDP's from Photoacompanhantes to post the [U]full direct link[/U] so members can see who you're talking about.

That's great report. You showed you had a good time, found a few diamonds that whatever your liking was, and most of all you stayed safe. Cheers.

[QUOTE=NiceFjords;2929060]Day13.

No early action today as I was busy changing Hotels. Talked to a match on bumble, and we were considering a date in the afternoon. But she had to go to work early tomorrow, so we'll try again tomorrow.

So I go to scandallo around 2100. Talked to a girl from Venezuela with good English. Originally I was thinking of going with another girl, but since I have a low key goal of at least one girl from each country, Venezuela is completed. Up to the room, start with a shower and some DFK and fooling around in the shower. In the bed she starts deep throating and eventually facefucking. She had to wipe her mouth a couple of times since the saliva was oozing out of her mouth. 69 fingering, cowgirl with good energy, doggie, missionary, BJ, missionary and just finished with some cuddle. 1 hour is too short, but it was enjoyable.

800 brl 1 hour.

7/10.

Day14.

Last day in Sao Paulo.

First a meet with bumblee girl. She worked nearby so she came to lunch at my hotel room.

Then around 1700 I go to the mulatto girl from day 6. I had to fuck her before I left Sao Paulo and now I regret not doing it before.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com[/URL] - Juliana Maia.

When I came through the door I gave her a hug and a kiss, that turned into DFK and fingering her from behind standing by the door. Quick shower. Her English is not very good. But she's happy and horny.

My visit to Sao Paulo is over. Too bad my injury prevented me from visiting Rio.

But I found a couple of diamonds and I'm overall happy with the visit. I'll probably come back to Brazil.

.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NiceFjords;2929060]Day13.

No early action today as I was busy changing Hotels. Talked to a match on bumble, and we were considering a date in the afternoon. But she had to go to work early tomorrow, so we'll try again tomorrow.

So I go to scandallo around 2100. Talked to a girl from Venezuela with good English. Originally I was thinking of going with another girl, but since I have a low key goal of at least one girl from each country, Venezuela is completed. Up to the room, start with a shower and some DFK and fooling around in the shower. In the bed she starts deep throating and eventually facefucking. She had to wipe her mouth a couple of times since the saliva was oozing out of her mouth. 69 fingering, cowgirl with good energy, doggie, missionary, BJ, missionary and just finished with some cuddle. 1 hour is too short, but it was enjoyable.

800 brl 1 hour.

7/10.

Day14..[/QUOTE]Great info / personal assessment of the scene. Thanks.

I particularly appreciate when you provided a name. Juliana is a pretty girl with a nice figure.

Hate when members tell us they had a great hook-up with some girl from some website and basically keep her name to themselves.

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2929243]That's great report. You showed you had a good time, found a few diamonds that whatever your liking was, and most of all you stayed safe. Cheers.[/QUOTE]Cheers! I appreciate it. I'm glad to be able to give back to the community that has given me so much information over the years!

I like them short, thin and young with natural beauty. With be / see and "some" ass. I don't like botox, filler, operated or too much makeup, as many "luxury" gals are. But I'm not judging.

Overall, it was a good time. I didn't feel unsafe during my time I Sao Paulo. But everybody I met and talked to warned me about how unsafe Sao Paulo was, so you get a little paranoid. I took very few pictures when I was walking around because if this.

At night I mostly ubered from door to door, don't bring to much cash with you out, I didn't bring my credit cards, just use fitpay / Samsung pay. No jewelry.

One note is that when I got home, I got a call from my credit card provider that had stopped a scam transaction going from my card to Brazil and Uganda. So, my that's a first.

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2929243]That's great report. You showed you had a good time, found a few diamonds that whatever your liking was, and most of all you stayed safe. Cheers.[/QUOTE]Probably my ocd just thinking it looked cleaner without long links.

Lavinia – Day 2 (Just hang on, this will be a bumpy ride. She's a real jackhammer).

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/santa-cecilia/linda-morena-dedicada-e-caprichosa-voce-vai-amar-id-zpwxd[/URL]

Lia – Day 5 (A real spinner. I see she increased her 2 hour price by 100 and removed anal from services. I would still go for it).

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/liberdade/namoradinha-com-garganta-profunda-demorada-e-babadinho-id-8ddr2[/URL]

Juliana Maia – Day 6 and Day 14 (CIM while you grip her beautiful curls).

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/bela-vista/ninfeta-bunduda-engole-leite-com-com-local-id-m9udp[/URL]

If you turn on filter "Com TD positivos"(investigate the reviewer further if its just one review) then I would say the chances of getting bait and switch are low. Look verified videos they post on the site and videocall if you are unsure.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2929267]Great info / personal assessment of the scene. Thanks.

I particularly appreciate when you provided a name. Juliana is a pretty girl with a nice figure.

Hate when members tell us they had a great hook-up with some girl from some website and basically keep her name to themselves.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I appreciate it.

I'm pragmatic and wish the girls are successful in their trade.

Gatekeeping the names / contact information of a great hookup is kinda delusional. They need to have clients and be fucked, it's better that someone from this community does it (unless she's not advertising or is a regular).

[QUOTE=NiceFjords;2929289]Cheers! I appreciate it. I'm glad to be able to give back to the community that has given me so much information over the years!

I like them short, thin and young with natural beauty. With be / see and "some" ass. I don't like botox, filler, operated or too much makeup, as many "luxury" gals are. But I'm not judging.

Overall, it was a good time. I didn't feel unsafe during my time I Sao Paulo. But everybody I met and talked to warned me about how unsafe Sao Paulo was, so you get a little paranoid. I took very few pictures when I was walking around because if this.

At night I mostly ubered from door to door, don't bring to much cash with you out, I didn't bring my credit cards, just use fitpay / Samsung pay. No jewelry.

One note is that when I got home, I got a call from my credit card provider that had stopped a scam transaction going from my card to Brazil and Uganda. So, my that's a first.

Probably my ocd just thinking it looked cleaner without long links.

Lavinia Day 2 (Just hang on, this will be a bumpy ride. She's a real jackhammer).

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/santa-cecilia/linda-morena-dedicada-e-caprichosa-voce-vai-amar-id-zpwxd[/URL]

Lia Day 5 (A real spinner. I see she increased her 2 hour price by 100 and removed anal from services. I would still go for it).

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/liberdade/namoradinha-com-garganta-profunda-demorada-e-babadinho-id-8ddr2[/URL]

Juliana Maia Day 6 and Day 14 (CIM while you grip her beautiful curls).

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/bela-vista/ninfeta-bunduda-engole-leite-com-com-local-id-m9udp[/URL]

If you turn on filter "Com TD positivos"(investigate the reviewer further if its just one review) then I would say the chances of getting bait and switch are low. Look verified videos they post on the site and videocall if you are unsure.[/QUOTE]Yeah great post. On photoacc the com TD positivo is just a first screen. A lot of girls have 1 or 2 reviews. Usually fake. So best to look for a girl with 5 or more reviews or go look at the review and see if the reviewer has more than 1 or 2 posts because then likely legit.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2929322]Yeah great post. On photoacc the com TD positivo is just a first screen. A lot of girls have 1 or 2 reviews. Usually fake. So best to look for a girl with 5 or more reviews or go look at the review and see if the reviewer has more than 1 or 2 posts because then likely legit.[/QUOTE]I agree, that is the safest route. And if you want to be super careful, would add videochat and meeting up in a motel, as its easier to reject the girl at the door. And if she gets rejected in her home its less hassle for her and more risk for you.

And, if she lied in her ad / chat, then I would suggest rejecting. I have never had a good session with a fake liar, even if she was good looking.

Example:

On day 7 I met a "fake" profile. Picture slightly photoshopped with removing of tattoos and filters for face and body. But still she was a good-looking girl so I started, but she didn't do the services that are in the ad / agreed on WhatsApp.

I really hate shit like that. So, I hatefucked her so hard that I ended up in hospital. So that's a lesson.

ISG gentlemen. Geez. I have not logged into this website since 2019! . got my password reset because I totally forgot my password from2019! . Anyhow I'm going to Brazil 1st week of Sept. And I've got questions again!

Ok so I read the last 50 pages. I think I still. Have 4 questions still. Despite all my RTFF research so far.

1. In regards to Casarao. Where is the "nearest" love motel to Casarao. If the Casarao rooms are an hour wait. Why not take the 300 are-500 are Casarao gal I choose. To the nearest love motel to Casarao. And perhaps have more fun?

(It appears Hotel Nova Lisboa and Abdar De Cima Suites are a 5 min uber ride away. Are these the 2 closest love motels to Casarao?

2. How much is the 30 min Hotel Room at Casarao? (RTFF says 1 hour room is 100 reals. So does that mean. 30 min room is 70 reals?

3. How much is a bottled beer inside Scandallo lounge? 50 reals each beer? So for the 300 Real Consumable. I can have 6 beers during my anticipated 3 hour stay at Scandallo? (Just planning this 645 pm to Midnight visit accordingly. Knowing the Tier 1 girls come at 930 pm).

4. For Sunday afternoons. I checked Google search and Moema Prime Spa is open 11 am to 7 pm. Do any of the good looking Prime girls show up at 11 am Sunday. Or is it better to show up 1 pm Sunday? (I prefer to meet these hot girls earlier in their work shifts. Rather than being their 10th session of the day).

I will be in Sao Paulo for 7 nights the 1st week of September. I definitely wrote about my March 2019 Brazi visit and shared it. And in later September. I will write about my Sept 2024 visit!

Is there a lagre Clinica near Santana metro station?

At photoacompanhantes I see at least 10 cute girls near Santana, just one example-

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/santana/gata-pronta-para-atender-as-suas-expectativas-id-373fs[/URL]

All these girls quote the same price of R$120 and exactly the same spot marked on the map for each of them.

[QUOTE=Bliadun;2929493]Is there a lagre Clinica near Santana metro station?

At photoacompanhantes I see at least 10 cute girls near Santana, just one example-

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/santana/gata-pronta-para-atender-as-suas-expectativas-id-373fs[/URL]

All these girls quote the same price of R$120 and exactly the same spot marked on the map for each of them.[/QUOTE]I'm sceptic about some of the Santana ads.

The pictures in this one is so fake that they are warping reality:

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/santana/sua-morena-do-tesao-bem-namorada-beijo-e-sou-completinha-id-fk9ns[/URL]

But. It could be gold in them hills.

[QUOTE=Bliadun;2929493]Is there a lagre Clinica near Santana metro station?

At photoacompanhantes I see at least 10 cute girls near Santana, just one example-

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/santana/gata-pronta-para-atender-as-suas-expectativas-id-373fs[/URL]

All these girls quote the same price of R$120 and exactly the same spot marked on the map for each of them.[/QUOTE]No offense, but do you really think that girl is working at a clinica on the outskirts of Sao Paulo for 120 reais?

[QUOTE=Thunder5;2929434]ISG gentlemen. Geez. I have not logged into this website since 2019! . got my password reset because I totally forgot my password from2019! . Anyhow I'm going to Brazil 1st week of Sept. And I've got questions again!

Ok so I read the last 50 pages. I think I still. Have 4 questions still. Despite all my RTFF research so far.

1. In regards to Casarao. Where is the "nearest" love motel to Casarao. If the Casarao rooms are an hour wait. Why not take the 300 are-500 are Casarao gal I choose. To the nearest love motel to Casarao. And perhaps have more fun?

(It appears Hotel Nova Lisboa and Abdar De Cima Suites are a 5 min uber ride away. Are these the 2 closest love motels to Casarao?

2. How much is the 30 min Hotel Room at Casarao? (RTFF says 1 hour room is 100 reals. So does that mean. 30 min room is 70 reals?

3. How much is a bottled beer inside Scandallo lounge? 50 reals each beer? So for the 300 Real Consumable. I can have 6 beers during my anticipated 3 hour stay at Scandallo? (Just planning this 645 pm to Midnight visit accordingly. Knowing the Tier 1 girls come at 930 pm).

4. For Sunday afternoons. I checked Google search and Moema Prime Spa is open 11 am to 7 pm. Do any of the good looking Prime girls show up at 11 am Sunday. Or is it better to show up 1 pm Sunday? (I prefer to meet these hot girls earlier in their work shifts. Rather than being their 10th session of the day).

I will be in Sao Paulo for 7 nights the 1st week of September. I definitely wrote about my March 2019 Brazi visit and shared it. And in later September. I will write about my Sept 2024 visit![/QUOTE]My recollection is that Coronas were either 50 or 60 R. So yeah you are in right ballpark. My first time at Casarao when the rooms were full my girl took me by the hand and dragged me down the street to a love motel. So they are def within a five minute walk. I also remember when we finished our session at 6:30 AM people were still partying in the streets. LOL. Brazil.

[QUOTE=Bliadun;2929493]Is there a lagre Clinica near Santana metro station?

At photoacompanhantes I see at least 10 cute girls near Santana, just one example-

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/santana/gata-pronta-para-atender-as-suas-expectativas-id-373fs[/URL]

All these girls quote the same price of R$120 and exactly the same spot marked on the map for each of them.[/QUOTE]It's a known bait and switch clinica. When you ask or book for a specific girl ahead of time, its likely not the one you are going to get. There were previous reports on this forum. Search for bernadelli. In the past there were cute girls working there, but you have to go in person and see the presentation to pick who you want. I have never been, it's far out in Santana and risky to me to not like any of the girls when there are better clinicas with similar pricing closer.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2929544]No offense, but do you really think that girl is working at a clinica on the outskirts of Sao Paulo for 120 reais?[/QUOTE]I wouldn't knock the outskirts. I know a bunch of girls who work in moema or downtown who commute 2-3 hours each way from the poorer towns surrounding SP. So Santana may be there they live or at least much closer by. I have paid for a few of these long Ubers to get the girl to me and have been shocked by some of the slum hoods they live in. The younger girls who don't know their worth usually start out in the clinicas or cheaper online sites like photo. Easier to hide it from family to work for few days during business hours. Once they hit scandallo and realize that guys are willing to pay enormous sum of money, they have usually been working for awhile. With scandallo girl fee and schedule, it's much harder to hide it from family and it's like a full time job. Of course, that's a generalization and there also are the pink sheet girls and models who can just work one day at scandallo and make a killing.

Of course I could be wrong. I am visiting Sao Paulo soon for the first time. I had some positive expiriences in Rio with this site in a similar price range. Also, there are so many ads for garotas all over Sao Paulo quoting R$100-R$150.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2929544]No offense, but do you really think that girl is working at a clinica on the outskirts of Sao Paulo for 120 reais?[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2929587] Easier to hide it from family to work for few days during business hours. <snip> With {the} scandallo <snip> schedule, it's much harder to hide it from family and it's like a full time job. <snip> there also are the pink sheet girls and models who can just work one day at scandallo and make a killing.[/QUOTE]Yep, I have a couple of favorite repeat girls that fall into these 3 lifestyle categories described above. One smokin' hot girl I get together with a couple times per trip works at the Palm, an upscale clinica. She could easily do better at Scandallo, but she chooses to work until 7 pm at the Palm earning 350 br per session because she has a husband who expects her to be at home every night. She is also unavailable for evening house calls for the same reason.

On the other hand, my favorite SP girl works Scandallo. She is single girl (no boyfriend) and an independent FL. She says she dislikes the last 2 hours of her shift at Scandallo and having to stay at the club until closing time (unless a customer buys her out) because she says it gets boring late at night plus shw dislikes returning to her apartment between 4 or 5 am because it is a tell of her occupation to all her early rising neighbors. But she is single lassie, and she makes pretty good money, so she puts up with the negatives.

Then there are the Scandallo true model quality girls who ask max amount and get away with it. These girls have no assigned work schedules, so they arrive and leave the club whenever they feel like. Paying the club's entry fee is no big deal to them. That's why you can still see a few stunners arriving at the club way after 11 pm.

Nice. That ad is a super photoshopped fake ad. There are many jpg scanner websites you can use to scan the image and you will be surprised what you find. LOL.

[URL]https://www.geckoandfly.com/10023/analyze-photoshopped-photos-with-fbi-csi-and-cia-fotoforensics-software/[/URL]

[QUOTE=NiceFjords;2929536]I'm sceptic about some of the Santana ads.

The pictures in this one is so fake that they are warping reality:

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/santana/sua-morena-do-tesao-bem-namorada-beijo-e-sou-completinha-id-fk9ns[/URL]

But. It could be gold in them hills.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2929793]Nice. That ad is a super photoshopped fake ad. There are many jpg scanner websites you can use to scan the image and you will be surprised what you find. LOL.

[URL]https://www.geckoandfly.com/10023/analyze-photoshopped-photos-with-fbi-csi-and-cia-fotoforensics-software/[/URL][/QUOTE]For me, not wasting my time and not getting scammed by photoacompanhantes is really, really, easy. I just don't use it LOL! Too many other legit options to be screwing around with that bullshit site!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2929811]For me, not wasting my time and not getting scammed by Photoacompanhantes is really, really, easy. I just don't use it LOL! Too many other legit options to be screwing around with that bullshit site![/QUOTE]I do not use this source for girls either. The prices quoted on photoacompanhantes may appear very reasonable, IMHO, too reasonable to count on with any degree of confidence, me thinks. KKK.

Now, I know some BM's who like Photoacompanhantes strongly recommend searching for reviews of possible girls to reduce the bait and switch or falling for heavily photoshopped pics. I tried this approach once. I came up empty and I found the search process very boring and tedious especially when compared to the reliable alternative sources for girls. So, when I want a girl in the afternoon, I just go to a Clinica. It is a no brainer. And when I want to have a girl in the evening, I just go to a boate or I invite a favorite repeat girl to come over to my place. This approach is fun! It is also easy, and relatively low risk.

Alex, you talk like a Vet with experience who seen many wars. I like your keep it simple approach, go to clinica and boates build up your catalog for potential repeats, rinse and repeat. If I do use one of these online places and see a stunner I never seen before like [URL]https://www.private55.com/acompanhantes-sp-sao-paulo[/URL] then she must have pic + video and / or instagram proof of video or a OnlyFans, or something. Video tells a lot.

Example I found Lana on P55 a few years ago, she has one of the best BBBJ action I ever had + BBFSCIP, her pussy is super wet and warm. But if you see her post, she has plenty of social proof, videos, so I was clear on who I was going to meet for the first time: https://www.private55.com/sao-paulo/acompanhante/lanna-belford

Good luck guys...

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2929910]I do not use this source for girls either. The prices quoted on photoacompanhantes may appear very reasonable, IMHO, too reasonable to count on with any degree of confidence, me thinks. KKK.

Now, I know some BM's who like Photoacompanhantes strongly recommend searching for reviews of possible girls to reduce the bait and switch or falling for heavily photoshopped pics. I tried this approach once. I came up empty and I found the search process very boring and tedious especially when compared to the reliable alternative sources for girls. So, when I want a girl in the afternoon, I just go to a Clinica. It is a no brainer. And when I want to have a girl in the evening, I just go to a boate or I invite a favorite repeat girl to come over to my place. This approach is fun! It is also easy, and relatively low risk.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2930278] I like your keep it simple approach, go to clinica and boates build up your catalog for potential repeats, rinse and repeat. If I do use one of these online places and see a stunner I never seen before like [URL]https://www.private55.com/acompanhantes-sp-sao-paulo[/URL] then she must have pic + video and / or instagram proof of video or a OnlyFans, or something. Video tells a lot.

Example I found Lana on P55 a few years ago, she has one of the best BBBJ action I ever had + BBFSCIP, her pussy is super wet and warm. But if you see her post, she has plenty of social proof, videos, so I was clear on who I was going to meet for the first time: https://www.private55.com/sao-paulo/acompanhante/lanna-belford [/QUOTE]Hey Shaun, looks like another example of great minds think alike! 555. But just to set the record straight: I have used SP & RJ escort services with good to excellent results from time to time especially on my 1st trip to Brazil in April / May 2021 when only SP clinicas were open for business (later in the trip the RJ termas opened as well). I used MClass & Club Model in SP and Barra VIPs in RJ. The 3 top end sites. The pics were photshopped, of course, but pretty close to how the girls actually looked in person.

I will never forget my 1st SP MClass girl. What a gorgeous, visually stunning white girl and so fucking good in bed! What an intro to sex with Brazilian girls. 555. We are still in touch, and we still get together when we are both in town. She sends me photos of herself on her various European tours.

Oh yeah, my April / May 2021 top escort price was 500 BR. It was a crazy time.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2930307]Hey Shaun, looks like another example of great minds think alike! 555. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2929910]I do not use this source for girls either. The prices quoted on photoacompanhantes may appear very reasonable, IMHO, too reasonable to count on with any degree of confidence, me thinks. KKK. [/QUOTE]Hey Axel,

Thanks for sharing your experiences, but I noticed in a lot of your posts you write KKK and 555. Do they mean something?

Kkk for ku klux klan (which I'm assuming is not what you're mentioning, thought idk).

555 is often a fake number in a tv show or hollywood.

Soooo, what's going on here.

[QUOTE=BbqMushrooms;2930406]Hey Axel,

Thanks for sharing your experiences, but I noticed in a lot of your posts you write KKK and 555. Do they mean something?

Kkk for ku klux klan (which I'm assuming is not what you're mentioning, thought idk).

555 is often a fake number in a tv show or hollywood.

Soooo, what's going on here.[/QUOTE]Kkkkk is Portuguese for hahaha and Spanish is jajaja. 555 I think happens when an emoticon doesn't translate properly.

While we are on English Spanish and Portuguese. One of my favorites is that wow in English is same in Portuguese. But spelled UAU. And it's guau in Spanish. All these languages have these little quirky sayings.

[QUOTE=BbqMushrooms;2930406]Hey Axel,

Thanks for sharing your experiences, but I noticed in a lot of your posts you write KKK and 555. Do they mean something?

Kkk for ku klux klan (which I'm assuming is not what you're mentioning, thought idk).

555 is often a fake number in a tv show or hollywood.

Soooo, what's going on here.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2930412]Kkkkk is Portuguese for hahaha and Spanish is jajaja. While we are on English Spanish and Portuguese. One of my favorites is that wow in English is same in Portuguese. But spelled UAU. And it's guau in Spanish. All these languages have these little quirky sayings.[/QUOTE]To a Brazilian Portuguese native speaker (girl), Ha Ha Ha phonetically sounds to them like KKK in Portuguese, so they like to use KKK for shorthand in their texts. The same same happens to a Thai native speaker (girl), Ha Ha Ha phonetically sounds to them like 555 (not me, them) so they like to use 555 for shorthand in their texts. It is a fun term to use while texting with the girls. Anyway, I like it. LOL!

Hey Steve, thanks for the Spanish lesson. I did not know about jajaja.

[QUOTE=BbqMushrooms;2930406]Hey Axel,

Thanks for sharing your experiences, but I noticed in a lot of your posts you write KKK and 555. Do they mean something?

Kkk for ku klux klan (which I'm assuming is not what you're mentioning, thought idk).

555 is often a fake number in a tv show or hollywood.

Soooo, what's going on here.[/QUOTE]555 is commonly used in Thailand, it means LOL or something funny. KKKK or rsrsrsrs is commonly used in Brasil.

[QUOTE=BbqMushrooms;2930406]Hey Axel,

Thanks for sharing your experiences, but I noticed in a lot of your posts you write KKK and 555. Do they mean something?

Kkk for ku klux klan (which I'm assuming is not what you're mentioning, thought idk).

555 is often a fake number in a tv show or hollywood.

Soooo, what's going on here.[/QUOTE]Like Steve said kkk is hahaha in Portuguese and 555 is hahaha in Thai. The number 5 is ha in Thai.

Yeah and it gets annoying with the locals using them to kind of screen out the gringos.

I have a list around somewhere.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2930412]Kkkkk is Portuguese for hahaha and Spanish is jajaja. 555 I think happens when an emoticon doesn't translate properly.

While we are on English Spanish and Portuguese. One of my favorites is that wow in English is same in Portuguese. But spelled UAU. And it's guau in Spanish. All these languages have these little quirky sayings.[/QUOTE]

Recently I came back from Brazil,*Rio and Sao Paulo. I have already been to Brazil, Rio a few times. This time I went for a week and I went with a friend. I usually go alone.

I am not going to report everything generally about Brazil and Rio and Sao Paulo as I usually do, but I will just give my extended data for this visit Sao Paulo and Rio.

Sao Paulo.

First of all I went to São Paulo. It was my first time in Sao Paulo. Sao Paulo is a nice place for mongering with many options but for me I liked the vibe of Rio de Janeiro due to the sun, the beach and the happy atmosphere everywhere. Nevertheless Sao Paulo has plenty of options. Since I had only 3 days, I couldn't check every corner as I usually do but only a few places.

Scandallo.

Scandallo was amazing in terms of girls. I arrived relatively early, just before the price to go in goes up. I think I paid 150 real to get in and later on it is 300, but I am not sure of the price exactly. The place was full full full with girls and they just jumped on you the moment you got in. I love it. Shows you around. Talking to you. You have a minimum food order I think. Not much. But the prices of the girls is a bit expensive for Brazil for my taste and you can find the same level of girls for a lower price for sure. It was a bit hard to convince*a girl to meet me outside the club in private since there are plenty of tourists*that pay their prices inside Scandallo. The price can be negotiated. It started with 1,500 for one hour and came down to 800 for one hour and you need to add the price for the room which is another 300. So although the girls are beautiful and the place is clean and high class I have decided not to come back due to the price. I got in with one girl, a MILF with crazy abs.

I did try many many many different "massage" parlours and clinicas. Unfortunately I don't remember their names and locations. Some were very cheap with 150 real to enter with a girl and some were 400 up to 700. There are plenty of places around, some have 10 girls, some have less. Some need to set up appointments*ahead. Better talk with the places on whatsapp. It was working well. You can find some gems in the cheaper places and also in the more high class places. *.

I did not try any escort ladies to the room BUT I went to a cool restaurant called "Banana Cafe" which is a regular restaurant and bar, quite good, many regulars go there and many working girls too. They look normal, but they look around and look into your eyes and you know they are working girls, you approach them to talk and exchange numbers. I really enjoyed it.

In Sao Paulo I stayed in an area called Moema which is relatively safe and quite close to some good clinicas.

Rio de Janeiro. Read in the Rio forum.

I will report more!

[QUOTE=IsaBahn;2930783]Recently I came back from Brazil,*Rio and Sao Paulo. I have already been to Brazil, Rio a few times. This time I went for a week and I went with a friend. I usually go alone.

First of all I went to So Paulo. It was my first time in Sao Paulo. Sao Paulo is a nice place for mongering with many options but for me I liked the vibe of Rio de Janeiro due to the sun, the beach and the happy atmosphere everywhere. Nevertheless Sao Paulo has plenty of options. Since I had only 3 days, I couldn't check every corner as I usually do but only a few places.

<snip>

I did not try any escort ladies to the room BUT I went to a cool restaurant called "Banana Cafe" which is a regular restaurant and bar, quite good, many regulars go there and many working girls too. They look normal, but they look around and look into your eyes and you know they are working girls, you approach them to talk and exchange numbers. I really enjoyed it.

In Sao Paulo I stayed in an area called Moema which is relatively safe and quite close to some good clinicas. [/QUOTE]Hey IsaBahn, I have eaten lunch at Banana Cafe a few times and liked it, however, I am not aware of any working girls that hang out there on a regular nightly basis so no offence intended, but I will have to see it with my own eyes before I believe it. KKK.

Anyway, Banana Cafe is a very popular and congenial Itaim Bibi restaurant located a block down from the Clarion Faria Lima Hotel which BTW is a comfortable 4-star hotel. A few other restaurants that I like within a block or so of Banana Cafe are: Due Cuochi Cucina, Modern Mamma Osteria, LE Bife, and Nakka Itaim Bibi. This is a very good neighborhood to hang your hat when you visit SP.

[QUOTE=IsaBahn;2930783]Recently I came back from Brazil,*Rio and Sao Paulo. I have already been to Brazil, Rio a few times. This time I went for a week and I went with a friend. I usually go alone.

I did try many many many different "massage" parlours and clinicas. Unfortunately I don't remember their names and locations. Some were very cheap with 150 real to enter with a girl and some were 400 up to 700. There are plenty of places around, some have 10 girls, some have less. Some need to set up appointments*ahead. Better talk with the places on whatsapp. It was working well. You can find some gems in the cheaper places and also in the more high class places. *.

I will report more![/QUOTE]Last trip to Brazi, I tried Scandello (loved it) and many smaller Clinicas which were a mixed experience. I also enjoyed Palms high end Clinica. Has anyone tried other high wnd establishments like Lotus club or Baroneses specifically? If yes, do you recommend those?

[QUOTE=IsaBahn;2930783]
I did not try any escort ladies to the room BUT I went to a cool restaurant called "Banana Cafe" which is a regular restaurant and bar, quite good, many regulars go there and many working girls too. They look normal, but they look around and look into your eyes and you know they are working girls, you approach them to talk and exchange numbers. I really enjoyed it.[/QUOTE]Interesting find is this restaurant you speak of:

Banana Cafe
Rua Jeronimo the Veiga 198, So Paulo, SP, 04536-000.
[URL]www.bananacafesp.com.br[/URL]

Did you get any pricing from the many working girls or meet with any that you exchanged numbers with? How was your experience? I really want to know if it is worth my time to go to this restaurant!

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2930278]Alex, you talk like a Vet with experience who seen many wars. I like your keep it simple approach, go to clinica and boates build up your catalog for potential repeats, rinse and repeat. If I do use one of these online places and see a stunner I never seen before like [URL]https://www.private55.com/acompanhantes-sp-sao-paulo[/URL] then she must have pic + video and / or instagram proof of video or a OnlyFans, or something. Video tells a lot.

Example I found Lana on P55 a few years ago, she has one of the best BBBJ action I ever had + BBFSCIP, her pussy is super wet and warm. But if you see her post, she has plenty of social proof, videos, so I was clear on who I was going to meet for the first time: https://www.private55.com/sao-paulo/acompanhante/lanna-belford

Good luck guys...[/QUOTE]Thanks for posting full link to Lana, Very nice looking and glad you had a good time. Private55 looks like a good site.

First of all Banana Cafe is a regular restaurants / bar with regular people comes to eat at night and drink. Most of the people are just day to day hanging out. BUT, sometimes, not a lot, but still quite often and noticeable, there will be a group of girls sitting together or even a lady sitting by herself. It might be they are just friends who went out for a drink but it might be that they are looking for clients. Those are usually regular ladies who decide to widen their income. So be careful and be very respectful when approaching (that's a good advise anyway) and start talking with them, be nice, maybe invite for a drink. Then politely ask what do they plan for later own, and feel their vibe.

I had 3 successful encounters there with ladies:

1. A young lady was sitting by herself drinking wine. I approached her and asked her if she wants to join our table (I was with a friend). She obliged and moved to our table with her wine. Spot on. We talked a bit. Negotiated. She is not a common working girl. 1500 BRL for a night.

2. When I went to the WC there was a nice lady just entering the women bathroom. I just said Hello,. In any other country she would ignore me or be polite saying Hello, back and get in. While in this case she smiled, said Hello, and stayed to chat. We exchanged numbers. By whatsapp she quoted her price.

3. MOST AMAZING Experience. I was sitting at the table with girl from item #1 here and another girl, but they were more focused on my friend so I went out to look around and moved around the bar to look at the "merchandise". Then came back to my table. Suddenly a curvy lady approached our table, hugged me! And started talking to me like we know each other for years. VERY SMART MOVE because she didn't want to make the other ladies suspicious. We exchanged numbers. Boom, on whatsapp she sent me her quote. Again she is not a working girl. She have a job, she is just adding another nice side income.

[QUOTE=UniversalX;2930932]Interesting find is this restaurant you speak of:

Banana Cafe
Rua Jeronimo the Veiga 198, So Paulo, SP, 04536-000.
[URL]www.bananacafesp.com.br[/URL]

Did you get any pricing from the many working girls or meet with any that you exchanged numbers with? How was your experience? I really want to know if it is worth my time to go to this restaurant![/QUOTE]

It is usually at night.

See my other post here were I gave a bit more information of how it works.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2930858]Hey IsaBahn, I have eaten lunch at Banana Cafe a few times and liked it, however, I am not aware of any working girls that hang out there on a regular nightly basis so no offence intended, but I will have to see it with my own eyes before I believe it. KKK.

Anyway, Banana Cafe is a very popular and congenial Itaim Bibi restaurant located a block down from the Clarion Faria Lima Hotel which BTW is a comfortable 4-star hotel. A few other restaurants that I like within a block or so of Banana Cafe are: Due Cuochi Cucina, Modern Mamma Osteria, LE Bife, and Nakka Itaim Bibi. This is a very good neighborhood to hang your hat when you visit SP.[/QUOTE]

Is there an areas in SP where there is a greater concentraton of Clinicas?

ANd what is the experience with english from the ladies on photoacompanhantes or elsewhere (any easy ways to filter for languarges spoken?

[QUOTE=Jqqmitch;2932668]Is there an areas in SP where there is a greater concentraton of Clinicas?

ANd what is the experience with english from the ladies on photoacompanhantes or elsewhere (any easy ways to filter for languarges spoken?[/QUOTE]If you took the time to RTFF you would know that the area is Moema. And you can forget about finding a lot of English speakers.

[QUOTE=Jqqmitch;2932668]Is there an areas in SP where there is a greater concentraton of Clinicas?

ANd what is the experience with english from the ladies on photoacompanhantes or elsewhere (any easy ways to filter for languarges spoken?[/QUOTE]Moema.

I met many Brazilians who speak English but there are very few English speaking WGs. Scandallo will have some partly because there are more college students working there.

J. stay away from photoacomp if its your first time, or as your last very last ultimately your last resort. There are waaaay to many hot chicks you can simply find elsewhere, and see who they are in person before deciding on one. As example, see Isa's report below, the dude ended up banging a hot chick he met at some random cafe, for crying out loud. LOL Good luck.

[QUOTE=Jqqmitch;2932668]Is there an areas in SP where there is a greater concentraton of Clinicas?

ANd what is the experience with english from the ladies on photoacompanhantes or elsewhere (any easy ways to filter for languarges spoken?[/QUOTE]

Hi, I'm planning my first trip to Brazil, mostly Sao Paulo. Due to logistics, it'll be difficult for me to visit places like Scandallo but I'll try to hit up some clinicas.

I'm also hoping to make an appointment or two with ladies from private55/ clubmodel, etc. It seems like it's safer to host instead of visiting them. I won't be able to invite them to the hotel I'll be staying at so I'm looking for some information on love hotels in Sao Paulo.

1. Should I go to the love hotel a little before my appointment and book a room in person? Or should I meet the lady at the hotel and then both of us go in to book a room?

2. Will I need my passport to book a room at the love hotel?

3. Any suggestions for good (but not super expensive) love hotels around Jardim Paulista?

I'm pretty new to this so any advice would be appreciated. Thank you all!

[URL]https://www.guiademoteis.com.br/rio-de-janeiro[/URL]

[QUOTE=Zpxoci;2933510]Hi, I'm planning my first trip to Brazil, mostly Sao Paulo. Due to logistics, it'll be difficult for me to visit places like Scandallo but I'll try to hit up some clinicas.

I'm also hoping to make an appointment or two with ladies from private55/ clubmodel, etc. It seems like it's safer to host instead of visiting them. I won't be able to invite them to the hotel I'll be staying at so I'm looking for some information on love hotels in Sao Paulo.

1. Should I go to the love hotel a little before my appointment and book a room in person? Or should I meet the lady at the hotel and then both of us go in to book a room?

2. Will I need my passport to book a room at the love hotel?

3. Any suggestions for good (but not super expensive) love hotels around Jardim Paulista?

I'm pretty new to this so any advice would be appreciated. Thank you all![/QUOTE]

Pm me and I will send you a updated bubba boy guide which has some info about using hotels.

[QUOTE=Zpxoci;2933510]Hi, I'm planning my first trip to Brazil, mostly Sao Paulo. Due to logistics, it'll be difficult for me to visit places like Scandallo but I'll try to hit up some clinicas.

I'm also hoping to make an appointment or two with ladies from private55/ clubmodel, etc. It seems like it's safer to host instead of visiting them. I won't be able to invite them to the hotel I'll be staying at so I'm looking for some information on love hotels in Sao Paulo.

1. Should I go to the love hotel a little before my appointment and book a room in person? Or should I meet the lady at the hotel and then both of us go in to book a room?

2. Will I need my passport to book a room at the love hotel?

3. Any suggestions for good (but not super expensive) love hotels around Jardim Paulista?

I'm pretty new to this so any advice would be appreciated. Thank you all![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2933765][URL]https://www.guiademoteis.com.br/rio-de-janeiro[/URL][/QUOTE]Thank you. I had come across this site. It seems to have a comprehensive list of love hotels. Unfortunately, I couldn't find info. On what's the recommended way to reserve, cash / card, etc.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2933766]Pm me and I will send you a updated bubba boy guide which has some info about using hotels.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I don't have a subscription yet to be able to PM. If I get one, I'll request your guide.

[QUOTE=Zpxoci;2933994]On what's the recommended way to reserve, cash / card, etc.[/QUOTE]I use card. You can go with the girl and let her do the talking. Usually customer will enter by car, it is like a fast food drive thru, select your room and the car will take you to the room or the garage that is part of the unit. Leaving is the reverse, the taxi can come to your unit to pick you up, go thru the same fast food process again to checkout. Most will accept some form of IDs. I never use passport

You can walk too. I don't see why you can't go to boates if you can go to the motel.

I think you are overthinking it. Since you are getting the more expensive site. They usually are located in good neighborhood. Just go to the girl's place. These things that you can ask the girl in advance.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2934008]I use card. You can go with the girl and let her do the talking. Usually customer will enter by car, it is like a fast food drive thru, select your room and the car will take you to the room or the garage that is part of the unit. Leaving is the reverse, the taxi can come to your unit to pick you up, go thru the same fast food process again to checkout. Most will accept some form of IDs. I never use passport

You can walk too. I don't see why you can't go to boates if you can go to the motel.

I think you are overthinking it. Since you are getting the more expensive site. They usually are located in good neighborhood. Just go to the girl's place. These things that you can ask the girl in advance.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your reply. I guess if I meet the girl at a motel and then we walk in together, she can do the talking and I can just pay. And maybe the other option is for me to go to the motel a little early, reserve a room using Google Translate, etc. And then send the room info. To the girl.

Re. Boates, based on what I read, it seems like the best times to go to boates is late in the evening which I won't be able to do. So I'm exploring options during the day including girls from private55, etc.

Going to the girl's place is probably the most simple but I think I read that it might not be very safe (as I mentioned, this will be my first time in Brazil so I may be wrong). Do you think that girls advertising on private55/ clubmodel / splove / mclass that have reviews on GPGuia aren't a problem and I can safely go visit them at their place? Thank you.

I flew from SDU airport to CGH in Moema. . a nice short flight. One hour from take-off to landing. There are sweet deals for roundtrip flights on GOL for USD 80 plus a few dollars more for changes at no additional costs. If you wait until the last minute the same flights can cost $300 USD or more. There are four airports to choose from GIG, SDU in Rio, and CGH, GRU in so Paulo to easily bounce back and forth.

Think it was Vagabundo Nounce, or Axel who said you can treat Rio and So Paulo like one big-mongering city. The garotas sure do. Their asses travel back and forth on the omnibus for $20 bucks. Some Scandallo chicas show up in Solario and Monte Carlos termas. Already posted about that earlier. If you want to know what your favorite garota does in the Clinica or massage / spa gpguia posts have good details. My more detailed reports are on gpguia to get the forista discount.

So no need to ask me in PM what chicas look like. Why'all horndogs can read all about the young 19-year-old Ukrainian Russian-looking red-haired Nate Naty in Lola / Vani's house.

Got off the plane at CGH to take an Uber directly to Scandallo. Paid the $300 reais entry before 7 pm. I could enter and exit without a problem. Damn, fine ass garotas in the early evening shift. Got a bunch of wassap numbers to meetup for later sessions.

Went early to hook up with an old Scandallo flame. We met three years ago. And got the chance to rekindle the passionate times of fucking all night until dawn. She looks like a younger version of Adriana Lima. No money was ever discussed since our first time together and none was expected.

In the course of catching up She wants to go together to her favorite swing club. Hmm damn, that was not on the bucket list. Porno actriz, threesomes, mother-daughter, ATM with leche swallow, Duplo snowballing lechecheck check check yes done. Doing the swingy thing, ah ahh. Hmm She loves meeting other pretty garotas Ones that are not GDP. For fun Lesbi action and licking.

Don't know how I would feel if some random ass dude wanted to exchange his dumpy fat wife for my sexy model might be too much drama. Read the report about the swingy place next to 57 friends. BTW 57 Friends is a cool after-hours spot. I posted about it earlier.

You search in the area where your girl is located for a hotel.

For example, she says she is in meier, you search there, and you might find cartago, etc.

I always recommend trying to find a motel near her to get inside her loop.

[QUOTE=Zpxoci;2933994]Thank you. I had come across this site. It seems to have a comprehensive list of love hotels. Unfortunately, I couldn't find info. On what's the recommended way to reserve, cash / card, etc.[/QUOTE]

Besides barras vip are there any other sites that are reliable in terms of profiles and the ladies being real?

[QUOTE=PGTour;2934248]Besides barras vip are there any other sites that are reliable in terms of profiles and the ladies being real?[/QUOTE]I like the following sites for Sao Paulo:

[URL]https://www.private55.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://mclassbrasil.com.br/[/URL]

Even though I know there are some good sites in Brazil, still I rarely use them in favor of getting out and about and seeing up close and personal before choosing.

There's always the chance the girl will flake, so waiting / paying for a love hotel as a first timer may not make sense. Just have a photocopy of your passport, should be fine.

If you really want to try the online site stuff, go ahead, but I think you could be very satisfied just going to clinicas during the day.

If you insist, do the research on the reviews of girls, should be pretty safe in terms of just going to her place vs love motel.

And why not check out Scandallo earlier in the evening, probably more than enough girls for you and you get to see them in person (one thing I don't really like about online / seeking unless they have a ton of photo angles w / less filters and you do video calls, etc).

F.

[QUOTE=Zpxoci;2934026]Thank you for your reply. I guess if I meet the girl at a motel and then we walk in together, she can do the talking and I can just pay. And maybe the other option is for me to go to the motel a little early, reserve a room using Google Translate, etc. And then send the room info. To the girl.

Re. Boates, based on what I read, it seems like the best times to go to boates is late in the evening which I won't be able to do. So I'm exploring options during the day including girls from private55, etc.

Going to the girl's place is probably the most simple but I think I read that it might not be very safe (as I mentioned, this will be my first time in Brazil so I may be wrong). Do you think that girls advertising on private55/ clubmodel / splove / mclass that have reviews on GPGuia aren't a problem and I can safely go visit them at their place? Thank you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Foolish;2934417]If you really want to try the online site stuff, go ahead, but I think you could be very satisfied just going to clinicas during the day.

If you insist, do the research on the reviews of girls, should be pretty safe in terms of just going to her place vs love motel.

And why not check out Scandallo earlier in the evening, probably more than enough girls for you and you get to see them in person (one thing I don't really like about online / seeking unless they have a ton of photo angles w / less filters and you do video calls, etc).[/QUOTE]Foolish is giving sound advice.

To the OP, I love Scandallo and Bomboa after 10 pm, but the Clinicas are where I like to spend my afternoons when I am in the right mood. RTFF for great reports on various clinicas, and then go for it. I have a couple of pals who never go to boates. They prefer to clinica hop all afternoon and enjoy the company of 2 or 3 very friendly girls for a lot less money. Check out the regular clinicas first and then if you seek a little higher quality and are willing to pay for it, check out the boutique clinicas. Scandallo before 7 pm is very different place from Scandallo after 10, but you may still find a few hotties early on. Give it all a try and post a trip report.

A. H.

Finally, the old Cafe Photo staff has been changed, and together with them, the last good vibes the place had.

I hit the place last week because it brings me good old memories since 2010 and I really don't complain about paying a bit more. But this was enough!

- Fingerprint check: yes.

- Entrance: R350 (or something like that).

- Cafe Photo Hotel room: R400 (very big and comfortable).

- Girl: R500 (that was the only cheap part, but wait until the end).

The place was nice as always, girls in elegant dress can't take the initiative, more girls than men. But the mood was very slow.

Fortunately I started a very nice conversation with a hot blonde with natural bubble brazilian butt. She had good vibes, so I proposed her to purchase her underwear. She laughed but liked my proposal and we headed to the outdoor tables where we kissed for a while. After washing my hands she let me play with her pussy under the table. The girls in front left the tables when they noticed I was masturbating her hahahaha.

Sex was very very good in the Cafe Photo rooms, very nice rooms and bunda gostosa, I must say!

At the end she gave me her what's because she was interested on the photoshoot I offered her and we're about to make during the next few days. Wednesday 24th-Jul there was going to be a lingerie runway in Cafe Photo. But NOT THANK YOU!

The total spent was: R1350 for the house + R500 for the girl = 1850 Reales or US $370. No meals, only two cubas for me and the drink for the girl.

I believe the girl got a 50% commission from the drink. Otherwise she could not have accepted R500. In Scandallo or Bombo she would charge R1000 - R800 easy. Fortunately she was good in the bed otherwise it would feel like a stab in the back.

So, with great sorrow I must say:

Bye Bye Cafe Photo, you used to have a fair price.

[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2934498]Finally, the old Cafe Photo staff has been changed, and together with them, the last good vibes the place had.

I hit the place last week because it brings me good old memories since 2010 and I really don't complain about paying a bit more. But this was enough!

- Fingerprint check: yes.

- Entrance: R350 (or something like that).

- Cafe Photo Hotel room: R400 (very big and comfortable).

- Girl: R500 (that was the only cheap part, but wait until the end).

The place was nice as always, girls in elegant dress can't take the initiative, more girls than men. But the mood was very slow.

Fortunately I started a very nice conversation with a hot blonde with natural bubble brazilian butt. She had good vibes, so I proposed her to purchase her underwear. She laughed but liked my proposal and we headed to the outdoor tables where we kissed for a while. After washing my hands she let me play with her pussy under the table. The girls in front left the tables when they noticed I was masturbating her hahahaha.

Sex was very very good in the Cafe Photo rooms, very nice rooms and bunda gostosa, I must say!

At the end she gave me her what's because she was interested on the photoshoot I offered her and we're about to make during the next few days. Wednesday 24th-Jul there was going to be a lingerie runway in Cafe Photo. But NOT THANK YOU!

The total spent was: R1350 for the house + R500 for the girl = 1850 Reales or US $370. No meals, only two cubas for me and the drink for the girl.

I believe the girl got a 50% commission from the drink. Otherwise she could not have accepted R500. In Scandallo or Bombo she would charge R1000 - R800 easy. Fortunately she was good in the bed otherwise it would feel like a stab in the back.

So, with great sorrow I must say:

Bye Bye Cafe Photo, you used to have a fair price.[/QUOTE]What do you mean by fingerprint check? What is needed to enter a club like scandallo or cafe photo?

Cafe Photo requires since 2021, ID and fingerprint check.

The rest of the clubs require ID only. Even copy of passport is enough.

Some girls I took from Cafe Photo did say the fingerprint check makes them feel safer. And yes, I took super good looking girls from Cafe Photo before.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2934527]What do you mean by fingerprint check? What is needed to enter a club like scandallo or cafe photo?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2934711]Cafe Photo requires since 2021, ID and fingerprint check.

The rest of the clubs require ID only. Even copy of passport is enough.

Some girls I took from Cafe Photo did say the fingerprint check makes them feel safer. And yes, I took super good looking girls from Cafe Photo before.[/QUOTE]They do a finger print background check or just take your fingerprint? Sorry for the confusion. Never heard of this.

Fucking A -the so Paulo clinics during the day, afternoons and Sundays!! The garotas were complaining about the cold rain in Sao Paulo and the lack of clients because it was the end of the month. I like the cool temperatures of so Paulo compared to the fracking heat of Beach Rio. Today is in clinical prime and Miruna wasn't crowded with all the swinging dicks waiting for the presentation. Must be something to that end of the month no money Shiite. Or more stripper shit.

Going again to Scandallo tonight. I have a horny Garota, she loves to swing clubs to find other pretty chicas.

Told her first we do my fantasy then we will do hers. Fuck if I knew Garotas have their own bucklist too and I'm on hers. Kkkkk don't know why she wants to see me bang away porno style other women. But fuckit its her bucket fantasy list.

We went to 57 friends with the fabolous Julia at reception. There was a very special pretty mixed mulata I introduced her to for lesbian action. . 57 house is next door to a swingy place.

My gal was impressed with the Beautiful mixed lightskin garota in 57 house. Damn fun having a gal that loves to lick pretty pussy too.

We stayed for three hours in 57 house she loves lesbi sexo with cutie. You can read the forista report.

I offered to take my garota and the mixed beauty to scandallo.

As newbie She wasn't in their GDP system so had to intervene to get her registered.

All good.

Yeah yeah I know its like bringing sand to the beach but don't give a shit cause she is hot, sexy, 9 and it doesn't cost me anything to hookup with her as old friends rekindling the flame.

Ohhh its the first time the 57 garota ever visited scandallo. Damn totally forgot what's it like going there for the first time to scandallo. The world of wonder. She was damn impressed with everything. It was awesome to see the place from the eyes of a first timer garota, figuring out the place and how it works.

[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2934711]Cafe Photo requires since 2021, ID and fingerprint check.

The rest of the clubs require ID only. Even copy of passport is enough.

Some girls I took from Cafe Photo did say the fingerprint check makes them feel safer. And yes, I took super good looking girls from Cafe Photo before.[/QUOTE]Once upon a time (a couple of years ago) I went to Cafe Photo and sure enough they required my fingerprint before I was allowed access to the club. I asked the manager why and he gave me some BS that it sped up the entry process. Ha Ha Ha. As if giving a front desk clerk my Florida driver's license took soooooooooooooo much longer at all the other boates. But then a BM, I forgot who, posted that a fingerprint WAS No longer an entry requirement at Cafe Photo. I can't personally verify either report, but I believe your post is the more accurate and up to date.

In any case, the deed is done and they have my fingerprint on file, so it no longer matter to me, but I was never in love with Cafe Photo. One club policy that I do not like was the one where the girls are not supposed to approach customers first. I like when there are no such rules and the girls can be themselves for better or worse. The other thing I really disliked about Cafe Photo was that a couple of the girls tried quoting me in dollars. I remember one girl in particular asked me for $300. I gave her a big smile, immediately accepted her "offer" and I said 300 BR is good, let's go to my hotel. The silly girl quickly tried to correct my "misunderstanding" not realizing I was joking around with her. Then realizing her mistake, she came down to 1000 BR pretty damn fast, but by then she had flunked the audition IMO, and I told her maybe another time. I can't remember every being quoted in dollars in any other boate.

That night ended well after I found a sexy blond out on the veranda who was up for a romp. Her ask was 800 BR and I said, let's go! Back at my hotel the sex was great.

[QUOTE=Tochka;2934719] We went to 57 friends with the fabolous Julia at reception. There was a very special pretty mixed mulata I introduced her to for lesbian action. . 57 house is next door to a swingy place[/QUOTE]Wait. Is 57 friends a brothel? Or is it a swing place?

If it's a brothel, I'd check it out. Especially if there is the possibility of cute bi mulatas.

If it's a swing club, forget it. I'm paying for sex with 8's, 9's, and 10's who are selling (especially if they're legit bi). Not doing swing clubs (unless working girls work there too).

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2934723]Once upon a time (a couple of years ago) I went to Cafe Photo and sure enough they required my fingerprint before I was allowed access to the club. I asked the manager why and he gave me some BS that it sped up the entry process. Ha Ha Ha. As if giving a front desk clerk my Florida driver's license took soooooooooooooo much longer at all the other boates. But then a BM, I forgot who, posted that a fingerprint WAS No longer an entry requirement at Cafe Photo. I can't personally verify either report, but I believe your post is the more accurate and up to date...
[/QUOTE]

R1900 for a night of pleasure (including taxis) is not a crazy amount of money after all. Only when you get decent sex of course.

350 for the entrance, 500 for the girl (which was cheap), R400 the room, but R400 for the girl's drink is a NO WAY!! It makes me think girls get commissions so they can have some basic income if there is no catch.

About the fingerprint. They did not ask my ID and entrance was very fast indeed. Into a non crowded place hahahahaha.

I hit Cassarao Thursday (because Scandallo had a local music show, so it was going to be a hard crowded night) and let me tell you this time there was true talent among the gravle in Cassarao. But that is another story.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2934718]They do a finger print background check or just take your fingerprint? Sorry for the confusion. Never heard of this.[/QUOTE]

It is supposed to speed up entrance if you are a frequent client. But it doesn't make any sense because that place was never crowded and reception guys are quite fast and gentle. If they perform some kind of background check, i don't think so. We latinos don't complain too much about personal data hahahaha. It used to be a place for wealthy locals and girls did say the fingerprint check makes them feel safer.

[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2934868]R1900 for a night of pleasure (including taxis) is not a crazy amount of money after all. Only when you get decent sex of course.

350 for the entrance, 500 for the girl (which was cheap), R400 the room, but R400 for the girl's drink is a NO WAY!! It makes me think girls get commissions so they can have some basic income if there is no catch.

[/QUOTE]Anyone else able to corroborate that the girls' drinks at Cafe Photo are R400 or in that vicinity? I mean, there is no way I would return to that place if that's the case. I guess you can just tell the girl no. Or ask the price before buying. But I prefer not to do those things.

What are Scandallo, Bomboa, et all charging for a drink these days?

[QUOTE=Aristhotle;2934807]Wait. Is 57 friends a brothel? Or is it a swing place?

If it's a brothel, I'd check it out. Especially if there is the possibility of cute bi mulatas.

If it's a swing club, forget it. I'm paying for sex with 8's, 9's, and 10's who are selling (especially if they're legit bi). Not doing swing clubs (unless working girls work there too).[/QUOTE]57 house is boate hoarhouse at night and a prive or clinica during the daytime. The swingy place is Enigma right next door.

Yes pretty mulatas, brancas go to 57 friends for after work drinks. They get off work at the clinicas in Moema.

Cool to see Moah spa, Prime, Miruna, Abbobara, Enjoy, garotas and those receptionist drinking together in 57 friends house for after work party with friends.

If you go talk to Julia the receptionist first she is great help. The daily photos are posted on her wassap.

[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2934868]R1900 for a night of pleasure (including taxis) is not a crazy amount of money after all. Only when you get decent sex of course.


I hit Cassarao Thursday (because Scandallo had a local music show, so it was going to be a hard crowded night) [/QUOTE]The local group in Scandallo was very cool. They do covers of American rock bands, pop & rock. So I knew the music they played that night. I was drinking heavily with three muletas, two definite bis. Had a great fuvking time.

The music group genre is acid rock. They posted videos from their Scandallo gig on Instagram acidrockband.

[QUOTE=Combo;2934887]Anyone else able to corroborate that the girls' drinks at Cafe Photo are R400 or in that vicinity? I mean, there is no way I would return to that place if that's the case. I guess you can just tell the girl no. Or ask the price before buying. But I prefer not to do those things.

What are Scandallo, Bomboa, et all charging for a drink these days?[/QUOTE]This is the menu I took on opening night. I paid about 950 to the club that night. I did not check my bill detail and it seemed to be more expensive than the menu indicated. There was no room on site yet. The girl and I went to a motel and there was no take out fee at that time. No fingerprint yet. I think I made a report.

The layout is similar to the old location and I like the old location better but the old location did not have many girls the two or three times I went

Those must be Cafe Photo prices valid 2022. Now the glass of Cuba Libre is R80,50 which I find way too expensive for rum and coca cola.

21:58 I closed my account and took the girl with me: R838 (R350 entrance from that R150 consumables, so the girl's drink was around R400 if I took 3 cubas).

22:00 we check in the Cafe's motel: R400 + 16 bottle of water.

22:43 I reentered the club to see if there was new talent and asked one more Cuba: R80.50.

I left the place.

The girl's drink looked very fancy, pinkysh Gin something.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2934923]This is the menu I took on opening night. I paid about 950 to the club that night. I did not check my bill detail and it seemed to be more expensive than the menu indicated. There was no room on site yet. The girl and I went to a motel and there was no take out fee at that time. No fingerprint yet. I think I made a report.

The layout is similar to the old location and I like the old location better but the old location did not have many girls the two or three times I went[/QUOTE]

Well, that was different. The swingy place was the Inner Club House of Swing.

I was there with my old Scandalo flame and Lesbi Bi Mulata we know from 57 friends' houses. Both of them wanted to try the swingy house we were there together. BTW no money has been exchanged or expected caused I have been "wife-ing" up with my long-time Scandalo Garota. Long nights of hot passionate sex because we enjoy each other company.

Anyhow the place has a bar and dance floor. There is a mini strip tease show with gals getting half-naked on the dance floor. Fuck if I could figure out their table reservation system to get drinks. Everything is on a paper card. Lots of NFL-style bouncers all over the place. Female security too. Women Military police patrolling the place too. Make sense to run a tight ship with a deep lineup of security.

Music, drinks, and dancing like a normal club or boat.

Then I went to the bathroom in the back to take a piss. My garrote and I had a few strong drinks.

Damn, I did not realize the hallway is the entrance to seven rings of porno hell. The place is a dark fucking maze of rooms. , hallways and traps. The first room was Omnibus, an actual bus inside the place. The bus driver was getting a blowjob from two Chicas. The bus seats were occupied with dudes banging away with different garotas, shit what kind fuking place is this. Movie cinema room with three loira garotas bent over doggy style. A line of guys banging away taking turns trying out each garota. Walking to the next place we passed a room with garotas on their knees doing a glory hole. Well, I've never seen a real glory hole before. Bunch of guys putting their dick in a mesh wall with holes getting sucked off by these old fat ladies slurping away on whatever comes through the hole. My garota and I did a double take walking past the orgy room.

Yup fifteen to 20 people naked, pounding away in a group going at like jack rabbits in the center of the room. There was a large circular mattress in the center of the room. Straight out of a porn orgy video but filled with regular-looking chicas. Nothing special.

There are private rooms with a swing set and a normal love motel setup for couples.

After the brief tour just looking around to see the place I was ready to jet. Check done, Grabbed my gal, paid for our drinks, and headed out to a short-term love motel nearby named Swing Motel. I had enough of seeing the Brasilia-style orgy rooms. Kkk just wanted to kick back and relax in private with my favorite Garota and we did just that.

Only one weirdo thing happened, it's my first time visiting such a place. Did not know anyone there. The bartenders, service staff, and a few other people called me the Scandallo guy. The staff work in different clubs in Sao Paulo, recognized me from scandallo.

[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2934935]Those must be Cafe Photo prices valid 2022. Now the glass of Cuba Libre is R80,50 which I find way too expensive for rum and coca cola.[/QUOTE]That was late 2021. They must have counted Cuba Libre as two drinks. The price is more reasonable if you think of it this way.

They did not give me the itemized bill like Scandallo did. Did they not give you the itemized bill?

Super Sunday.

Another quick visit to Clinica Tangar.

Tangara is open Sunday until 10 pm The lineup is often 30 garotas deep. Miruna and Prime are open on sundays, though it is best to check the closing time. Because of the deep bench of hoars in the hoarhouse, the place attracts squads of guys on Sundays. Scheduled time with favorites in advance. Especially the well reviewed red-haired Lily Cooper. It's better to visit early on Sunday afternoon. And I asked for a presentation. There were many new garotas, with sexy photos in the lineup but seeing them in person was a let down. And of ccourse, the one or two I had an interest in from their photos did not quite match up to being a hottie in real life.

This visit the 30-minute session cost 140 reais with the forista discount. Good bargain price.

Yesterday went to Motel Colonial Palace with my longtime hottie flame from Scandalo. Colonial Palace Love Motel is a 9-minute Uber ride from Scandallo. The price is a good value, reasonable compared to Lush. We stayed for six hours, in a large comfortable room for lovee couples. The best part was ordering breakfast. We were both hungry like a wolf. Thought it would be a simple coffee breakfast order. Nope, they delivered a full-service meal for two. Bacon, eggs, toast, orange juice, coffee, fruit, ham and cheese plates plus a lot more. It was A real proper breakfast at the dining table in the room. Recommend as a Scandallo love motel spot.

My sweety and I are going to a House of the Dragon viewing party. I much rather watch house of the dragon on large screen with my hot cutie, than see another soccer game in some bar. Cannot wait for the NFL game here. The ads are promoting the game in CGH airport. Besides how do some of these random bars have 50 or 60 people drinking, an after-work party, and the next one over nothing but crickets? I am being generous calling it a bar. In Rio Centro, it's just a corner newsstand serving 40 people.

[QUOTE=Tochka;2935179]Super Sunday.

Another quick visit to Clinica Tangar.

Tangara is open Sunday until 10 pm The lineup is often 30 garotas deep. Miruna and Prime are open on sundays, though it is best to check the closing time. Because of the deep bench of hoars in the hoarhouse, the place attracts squads of guys on Sundays. Scheduled time with favorites in advance. Especially the well reviewed red-haired Lily Cooper. It's better to visit early on Sunday afternoon. And I asked for a presentation. There were many new garotas, with sexy photos in the lineup but seeing them in person was a let down. And of ccourse, the one or two I had an interest in from their photos did not quite match up to being a hottie in real life.

This visit the 30-minute session cost 140 reais with the forista discount. Good bargain price.

Yesterday went to Motel Colonial Palace with my longtime hottie flame from Scandalo. Colonial Palace Love Motel is a 9-minute Uber ride from Scandallo. The price is a good value, reasonable compared to Lush. We stayed for six hours, in a large comfortable room for lovee couples. The best part was ordering breakfast. We were both hungry like a wolf. Thought it would be a simple coffee breakfast order. Nope, they delivered a full-service meal for two. Bacon, eggs, toast, orange juice, coffee, fruit, ham and cheese plates plus a lot more. It was A real proper breakfast at the dining table in the room. Recommend as a Scandallo love motel spot.

My sweety and I are going to a House of the Dragon viewing party. I much rather watch house of the dragon on large screen with my hot cutie, than see another soccer game in some bar. Cannot wait for the NFL game here. The ads are promoting the game in CGH airport. Besides how do some of these random bars have 50 or 60 people drinking, an after-work party, and the next one over nothing but crickets? I am being generous calling it a bar. In Rio Centro, it's just a corner newsstand serving 40 people.[/QUOTE]Go Packers!

Detailed bill was not provided this time in Cafe Photo. And now that you mention, my latest Scandallo bill is very detailed.

For me, Cafe used to be a place where bills and costs were fair, I mean, reallly fair. I used too feel like at home without taking too much care about the final bill.

Maybe the high price was because a fee for taking the girl to the motel of the club? Hahahaha.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2934959]That was late 2021. They must have counted Cuba Libre as two drinks. The price is more reasonable if you think of it this way.

They did not give me the itemized bill like Scandallo did. Did they not give you the itemized bill?[/QUOTE]

Scandallo Monday night.

My girlfriend was interested in changing up. She wanted a Loria Branca blonde or a red-haired ruvia to join us tonight. I sent her six photos of scandallo chicas to choose from. Told her to choose one. Maybe two. Kkkk I session in scandallo with all of them. So introduced her to hotties who might have good chemistry with her in bed. But ya never know.

We met all of them for group drinks, conversation, music in scamdallo. They had a single job, compete to get my gal passion up to choose her for the night. In between the Gin Tropical and Blonde Johnny Walkers she interviewed each one. Damn fuking love brasil.

Easier for Chicas talk openly about Lesbi bi stuff they like to do each other.

Told her to choose whichever one she was most attracted to take back to the Colonial Love Motel nearby. Pernoite.

It's fucking great to have a pretty Brazilian girl that loves other pretty, tanned sexy Scandallo women. Now that is my kind of swingy. Kkkk.

How did it turn out? She chose one brunette, and I chased a branca Loria. Its a four-way orgy fest.

Damn, that was fun time. Four garotas sloppy kissing, threeway, sucking face, tongue intertwined, doing a semi orgy at the back bar tables. The bar tables facing the bathrooms and bar. If ya know the spot ya know it is good place to view the talents of scandallo.

We were drinking. Singing, dancing our hearts out together. Felt like king for a night with four chicas. Things got amped up when the cool DJ played filipe ret music calling out my sweetie's name as dedication. She felt like a queen. The garotas at our table.

Went nuts in a passionate frenzy hearing her name announced in scandallo.

Sorry dudes we didn't fuking care if why'all didn't want to listen to my Brasilian Spotify playlist for the next five songs in a row. Kkkk hahaha.

We did have an Epic time with an amazing lesbi orgy session all night.

Has anyone heard of impending renovation work at Scandallo's? A girl I've been in touch with in SP tells me Scandallo will soon be closed for renovations. I don't much care either way because Scandallo is not high on my list, but I'm interested in order to ascertain whether this my girl is reliable as a source of info or is bullshitting me.

Thats one thing I did like most, everyone there gives great service. Even the DJ is willing to play peoples fave songs, no BS, just chill vibes. For that kinda swingy night, I would of had have taken two Viagras LOL.

[QUOTE=Tochka;2935579]Scandallo Monday night.

Sorry dudes we didn't fuking care if why'all didn't want to listen to my Brasilian Spotify playlist for the next five songs in a row. Kkkk hahaha.

We did have an Epic time with an amazing lesbi orgy session all night.[/QUOTE]

I heard that many times, and its usually from drivers, or girls, or others who want to get you to another spot. BTW many cab drivers, ubers, etc. Get paid or get free beer, or whatever, when they bring in a new person, etc.

[QUOTE=XXL;2935591]Has anyone heard of impending renovation work at Scandallo's? A girl I've been in touch with in SP tells me Scandallo will soon be closed for renovations. I don't much care either way because Scandallo is not high on my list, but I'm interested in order to ascertain whether this my girl is reliable as a source of info or is bullshitting me.[/QUOTE]

I saw this coming years ago. Their service fell off, and they did that bill thing to me about 5 years ago, and I was like. "I'm not the one buddy" LOL I need you to update that bill to the correct line items. And they did, I'll give them that. Saved like $60 US.

[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2935302]Detailed bill was not provided this time in Cafe Photo. And now that you mention, my latest Scandallo bill is very detailed.

For me, Cafe used to be a place where bills and costs were fair, I mean, reallly fair. I used too feel like at home without taking too much care about the final bill.

Maybe the high price was because a fee for taking the girl to the motel of the club? Hahahaha.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2935618]I saw this coming years ago. Their service fell off, and they did that bill thing to me about 5 years ago, and I was like. "I'm not the one buddy" LOL I need you to update that bill to the correct line items. And they did, I'll give them that. Saved like $60 US.[/QUOTE]Getting charged an arbitrary amount was common in the old days in Brazil venues. Some people may be old enough to remember Kilt when Kilt was still in the big castle-like building. Kilt was THE club to visit in Sao Paulo of course. However, the bill you were presented with upon leaving was always a shock.

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2935618]I saw this coming years ago. Their service fell off, and they did that bill thing to me about 5 years ago,.[/QUOTE]I think that is the old location. Here they are talking about the new location after the owners splitted up. It looks likes the bill thing is the same. I think there is no reason to go when Scandallo is open.

Return to scandallo.

Tuesday night was booming with a local music group. The lead looks like freddy mercury. They did covers of old-school hits. So I was booming along with old-school Michael.

This time my garota and I were closer to the stage.

At the table make sure to have one of each. A red hair thin ruvia, skinny bleach blonde, my morena beauty and brunette. Hard as hell to give four women full attention and affection. Made sure they were kissing each other lesbi style, so I could grope on my gal. Yo dudes don't get mad cause one of the chicas in our small clique blows you off. There are sooo many other options for ya in the club. Fine take ya shot, you might be able to peel one off from the group m, it the long a walk alone when she blows you off. They ain't with me for the money. All of you mofos got hella deeper pockets than me for sure!!

No worries my gal will throw back one or two of them if they don't click with her.

Anyhow another stupid fun night. We left early for the Love Motel Colonial. Two of the four garotas made the cut to join us for hours of orgy fun.

Ok, some dude PM so I will answer here. It is my garota doing all the business negotiations with the chicas she desires. It was reais $600 reais to each garota selected for pernoite all night and a shared breakfast in the morning. Midnight to 10 am. Of course no charge from my girlfriend haha paid her in other ways hahaha. In the morning each garota paid for their own Uber home. I pay the Uber from scandallo to Colonial love motel, all the drinks, food, and of course the good shit marola for reais $250 delivered on motorbike. Make sure to order the good shit maralo. Some gals have weak-ass stuff or lace with hashish.

I get three naked beauties, no fatty, no buttaface, smoking good weed, long night orgy, private porno session doing redheads, blondes, morena, mulatas, and all three at the same time. Epic.

Your mileage will vary YMMV, your garotas experience may be different, and the price for an all-night orgy with three garotas may be different, only sharing my experience, this is how I roll, have fun rolling ya own.

[QUOTE=Tochka;2935775]


Anyhow another stupid fun night. We left early for the Love Motel Colonial. Two of the four garotas made the cut to join us for hours of orgy fun.

Ok, some dude PM so I will answer here. It is my garota doing all the business negotiations with the chicas she desires. It was reais $600 reais to each garota selected for pernoite all night and a shared breakfast in the morning. Midnight to 10 am. Of course no charge from my girlfriend haha paid her in other ways hahaha. In the morning each garota paid for their own Uber home. I pay the Uber from scandallo to Colonial love motel, all the drinks, food, and of course the good shit marola for reais $250 delivered on motorbike. Make sure to order the good shit maralo. Some gals have weak-ass stuff or lace with hashish.
[/QUOTE]600 sounds very cheap compared to Scandallo level prices. Of course there's the marola, the motel and the food to be paid as well. I assume weed smells are not a problem for motels. What I've found very handy to keep smells in check is THC vaping pens. However they might be above the allowable THC amount "par consumo pessoal" in Brazil while joints are not.

[QUOTE=XXL;2935782] I assume weed smells are not a problem for motels. What I've found very handy to keep smells in check is THC vaping pens. However they might be above the allowable THC amount "par consumo pessoal" in Brazil while joints are not.[/QUOTE]Flower stinks. This is one of the reasons I prefer hotels with balconies. KKK.

Dudes I seriously give up trying to figure out Garota's fantasy bucket list.

My beauty Garota and I went for karaoke night at Curtica bar. Afterward off to the motel for a passionate night of shagging.

She invited her real sister to join us and her girlfriend to sing karaoke. We all sang karoke. The sister is a goddamn hottie too but tried to respect boundaries.

My Brazilian girlfriend told me fvck that thinking. She invited her actual sister to our private karaoke party so she can watch me fuck her good, do her anal sex with her including ATM, and end with a cum facial. She was that explicit. And wanted to watch. My mind is blown again in Brazil. Shrug emoji.

These Brazilian garatoas have their bucketlust too.

Hope all you mofos get as lucky as I did with a long time brasilan gal.

No money exchange hands. Except paying for Uber, food, and drinks at the karaoke bar and the short-term motel.

A sister combo is a check check box on the list and it wasn't my idea. Shrug.

Hope this doesn't end like the Mother-Daughter Day combo in Rio Panda Motel on mothers Day. Was great fun, still a little drama afterward.

YMMV your experience may vary, your Garota experience may be different, all the pricing may very well be different and your entire experience might be different with your long-time Garotas or her bucklust. Sharing only my experience, so go get out there to snag your own. You can do it too.

I only offered her um jantarzinho after our date and look what she dressed! This girl is classy and owner of a solid bunda!

I was saying my prayers when she was doing her make up and hair. She was laughing.

Nothing else to say.

[QUOTE=XXL;2935782]600 sounds very cheap compared to Scandallo level prices. Of course there's the marola, the motel and the food to be paid as well. I assume weed smells are not a problem for motels. What I've found very handy to keep smells in check is THC vaping pens. However they might be above the allowable THC amount "par consumo pessoal" in Brazil while joints are not.[/QUOTE]Curtiça Bar.

I am lucky as fuk. My brasilian scandallo girlfriend negotiated the prices with the garota. Some was free or, no charge cause they were lesbian swingy friends other were reais $600 maximum.

My job was simple — to STFU, say nothing. Swallow my damn pride and ego to let her select the best garota we both desired. Thats it. She did all the talking and negotiating with the scandallo chicas. Choosing hotties includiedc a session doing her sister. If it was a test I failed because banged the helluva out of her.

Curitcavis cool karaoke bar. You need a least three or more garotas friends to make it work.

YMMV you experience will be different from mine.

You're definetely having a great time writing on this forum.

No doubt of it.

[QUOTE=Tochka;2935886]Curtia Bar.

I am lucky as fuk. My brasilian scandallo girlfriend negotiated the prices with the garota. Some was free or, no charge cause they were lesbian swingy friends other were reais $600 maximum.

My job was simple to STFU, say nothing. Swallow my damn pride and ego to let her select the best garota we both desired. Thats it. She did all the talking and negotiating with the scandallo chicas. Choosing hotties includiedc a session doing her sister. If it was a test I failed because banged the helluva out of her.

Curitcavis cool karaoke bar. You need a least three or more garotas friends to make it work.

YMMV you experience will be different from mine.[/QUOTE]

Ever notice?

When waiting for your Uber ride in front of Scandallo. Ever notice a stream of hot sexy dressed garotas walking uphill? Somewhere my brain thought it was odd that hotties in miniskirts were walking alone, in the darkest night uphill instead of taxi or Uber ride.

I learned when meeting a Garota, she rents a room, up the hill, in the furnished apartment building Rick Towers. Three to four garotas in a room. No Uber transport costs walking to "work. " haha.

Ever noticed that many of the waiters in Scandallo seem to be all shorties under 5'0 height. Sitting In the back bar, you can easily scan across the space, a sea of perfumed beauties, talent entering your sightline, yet is never obscured by any tall wait staff interrupting the scene.

Time to change things up my Morena beautiful girlfriend, her sister and I went to Motel Asturias. The rooms have a decent-sized pool, jacuzzi, and sauna. The bedroom is average size to make room for the large indoor heated pool, and sauna, same as in their online pictures.

So far I personally still rate Panda Motel in Botafogo, their Presidential or Ibiza Suites as having a fantastic indoor waterfall pool a great experience for banging out threesomes and foursomes.

The chicas dressed up in nice fashionable clothes, and we dudes can show up in whatever the fuck we want, from biker shorts to cargo shorts. Cool!

When paying by credit card the card reader says Matrix. Yesh dude that place feels like entering the matrix. It's all set up for the fantasy experience.

The garotas dressing room in Scandallo sucks. Better for them to come dressed up instead of changing in there. But they want that fresh fashion look when sweeping through the doors.

Ever notice. The garotas don't confuse using my Scandallo card with theirs. When it comes to handing over the card for the waiter to scan for drinks and food cards. I have yet to experience where she accidentally gave her card to the waiter to scan. So far I'm a hundred out of a hundred the garotas gives my card to the waiter. Those cards look the same. I have yet to experience Garota accidentally giving hers. Yes sometimes on purpose the garotas will buy me a few drinks. But for the pricer stuff, nope.

YMMV your experience different, your observation better, different or whatever. Only sharing mine. Get out there and do your own. It will be unique to you.

Tochka. Your right on these. BTW isn't Panda Motel in Rio? What is your favorite Love motel and room type in Sao Paulo. I have yet to go to a Love Motel. Will definitely check it out on the next one.

Here is my.

Ever notice, When you go to Scandallo, out of the elevator to the left is a couch where garatos sit? If the couch is empty, means there's a lot of dudes in the place.

Ever notice, that no one sits at the second level where the DJ is located, probably because people think it is mandatory to pay for the table bottle service. Which is not true. You are not required to get a table. Unless a huge party comes in and they need the space, but that is rare. However, I recommend you go up there for a little while as soon as you come in to the place, so you can scope out the ladies downstairs with no interruptions. Set your sites on one, and I promise, she will see you looking at her. If she doesn't, the bouncers will go down and get her for you (that's what I call service! Call her up, and her friends. Been many times, I would have 4 or 5 garatos up there, and I would tip the DJ and he would play all my favorite joints. Its like having your own party and no one in the place knows otherwise LOL.

Enjoy!

[QUOTE=Tochka;2936133]Ever notice?


So far I personally still rate Panda Motel in Botafogo, their Presidential or Ibiza Suites as having a fantastic indoor waterfall pool a great experience for banging out threesomes and foursomes.

The garotas dressing room in Scandallo sucks. Better for them to come dressed up instead of changing in there. But they want that fresh fashion look when sweeping through the doors.

YMMV your experience different, your observation better, different or whatever. Only sharing mine. Get out there and do your own. It will be unique to you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=XXL;2935692]Getting charged an arbitrary amount was common in the old days in Brazil venues. Some people may be old enough to remember Kilt when Kilt was still in the big castle-like building. Kilt was THE club to visit in Sao Paulo of course. However, the bill you were presented with upon leaving was always a shock.[/QUOTE]The famous Barbarella's in Rio was known for hustling tourists as well. We heard the game and just drank beers, caipirinhas. Some Americans sat down at another table and ordered. The waiter put down a partially poured bottle of Scotch and told him he would measure how much they drank. Of course, when they asked for their tab it was $250+ for a few glasses of Scotch.

Barbarella had some great looking girls in its hey-day though.

Looking for up-to-date entrance requirements for the club / boates, especially Scandallo. Is a state (US) driver's license sufficient? Or photocopy of first page of passport?

Loved Cafe Photo years ago, but I they're crossed off my list because of the fingerprint requirement.

[QUOTE=Combo;2936274]Looking for up-to-date entrance requirements for the club / boates, especially Scandallo. Is a state (US) driver's license sufficient? Or photocopy of first page of passport?

Loved Cafe Photo years ago, but I they're crossed off my list because of the fingerprint requirement.[/QUOTE]On subsequent visits a digital copy of the passport was enough, indeed only reminding them of my passport number was enough. I fear though I had to show them my passport on my 1st visit. I'd be interested to know if it's possible to have my passport registered without my ever having to bring the original to the club. Same about Casarao. Maybe bringing along a nice coulour paper copy when 1st visiting will satisfy requirements?

I have no problem with fingerprints however. Fingerprints didn't prevent me from enjoying Disneyland Orlando, neither should they stand in the way of mongering. My passport is what I don't want to lose under any circumstances.

On my last trip to Sao Paulo, I visited Casarao many times and they always accepted a black and white photocopy of my passport.

[QUOTE=Combo;2936274]Looking for up-to-date entrance requirements for the club / boates, especially Scandallo. Is a state (US) driver's license sufficient? Or photocopy of first page of passport?

Loved Cafe Photo years ago, but I they're crossed off my list because of the fingerprint requirement.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2934723]<snip> giving a front desk clerk my Florida driver's license took soooooooooooooo much longer at all the other boates. [/QUOTE]Combo, a valid driver's license is & was the only entry requirement to gain entrance to Scandallo.

I don't like Cafe Photo's fingerprint requirement either, but that is not the main reason I almost never go there. It is all about the girls. Although I have found some good girls at Cafe Photo, IMHO, there is no comparison in quality and quantity between Scandallo and Cafe Photo and yet the prices at these 2 clubs is roughly the same.

I would advise all boate punters who have never been to Photo, to give it a try, but only after you have enjoyed many nights at Scandallo & Bomboa and are then looking for something a little different. And don't forget about Casarao (late night 5 stars) which has a very different vibe than Scan or Bom and Bahamas (4 stars) which is less expensive and not as high quality, but still good.

A. H.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2936190]The famous Barbarella's in Rio was known for hustling tourists as well. We heard the game and just drank beers, caipirinhas. Some Americans sat down at another table and ordered. The waiter put down a partially poured bottle of Scotch and told him he would measure how much they drank. Of course, when they asked for their tab it was $250+ for a few glasses of Scotch. Barbarella had some great looking girls in its hey-day though.[/QUOTE]Barbarella had a reputation for being a clip joint, and I guess it could be if you didn't know what you could be in for. I never had a problem with the waiters there, and during my very first trip to Rio found some real hotties up in there. The worst was the cabbies outside waiting to charge you three times the price! Fuck that! I would walk around the corner and hail a cab at the normal fare. One time I was leaving with a branca and she tried to tell me we needed to use a cab out front. I said, "OK, so what I pay for the taxi comes out of your money". You should have seen that tute get to stepping around that corner! LOLOLOL! I visited Barbarella in its last dying days, and it was really sad. Virtually empty with less than a handful of washed up hoors. So, so sad.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2936346]Combo, a valid driver's license is & was the only entry requirement to gain entrance to Scandallo.

I don't like Cafe Photo's fingerprint requirement either, but that is not the main reason I almost never go there. It is all about the girls. Although I have found some good girls at Cafe Photo, IMHO, there is no comparison in quality and quantity between Scandallo and Cafe Photo and yet the prices at these 2 clubs is roughly the same.

I would advise all boate punters who have never been to Photo, to give it a try, but only after you have enjoyed many nights at Scandallo & Bomboa and are then looking for something a little different. And don't forget about Casarao (late night 5 stars) which has a very different vibe than Scan or Bom and Bahamas (4 stars) which is less expensive and not as high quality, but still good.

A. H.[/QUOTE]Maybe add Connection to that list. I went there many years ago and loved it. Have been lazy about returning given the distance, but recent reports have motivated me.

[QUOTE=XXL;2936295]On subsequent visits a digital copy of the passport was enough, indeed only reminding them of my passport number was enough. I fear though I had to show them my passport on my 1st visit. I'd be interested to know if it's possible to have my passport registered without my ever having to bring the original to the club. Same about Casarao. Maybe bringing along a nice coulour paper copy when 1st visiting will satisfy requirements?
[/QUOTE]I never had to use anything other than Driver License to get into SP / Rio clubs. I do keep a copy of passport in my wallet, just in case.

[QUOTE=Combo;2936371]Maybe add Connection to that list. I went there many years ago and loved it. Have been lazy about returning given the distance, but recent reports have motivated me.[/QUOTE]No maybes' about it. Connection is at the top of my to do list. I really want to check the place out despite the distance.

I will be returning to SP in November after Formula 1 week ends. Hotel rates have sure gone thru the roof since June, holy fuck, but I managed to nail down a few "reasonable" hotel reservations on travel points and what not. As usual, I can't wait!

[QUOTE=XXL;2935692]Getting charged an arbitrary amount was common in the old days in Brazil venues. Some people may be old enough to remember Kilt when Kilt was still in the big castle-like building. Kilt was THE club to visit in Sao Paulo of course. However, the bill you were presented with upon leaving was always a shock.[/QUOTE]I visited Kilt only one time, and that was when it was well past its heyday. It was an OK looking place, and I remember I had some sashimi. But there were very few girls there, and all were quite average looking. I guess it didn't matter anyway since most of the girls only paid attention to the few Japanese guys who were in there. That's why I concluded that Kilt was a club for the Japanese yakuza LOL. I enjoyed my sashimi, had a drink, talked to one girl, and left. Never to return.

[QUOTE=Combo;2936274]Looking for up-to-date entrance requirements for the club / boates, especially Scandallo. Is a state (US) driver's license sufficient? Or photocopy of first page of passport?

Loved Cafe Photo years ago, but I they're crossed off my list because of the fingerprint requirement.[/QUOTE]Disclaimer haven't been to Brazil since last December last year but I have never had to show passport except a digital copy on my phone when exchanging money. US ID was sufficient to enter all the boates Scandallo / bomboa / cafe foto / Bahamas / Casarao / connections. Yes went to all of them that time. In fact met up with an old Bamboa flame now working in Cinnections. Planning another trip end of this month and will try out Gauguin. Giuseppe you around? Let's go together.

About cafe foto I had been fingerprinted in 2021 or 2022 don't remember but have been there many times since. Most of the time the finger print does not work it seems but they just wave me in, but if it's a new guy at the reception I'll just show my DL ID.

Looking forward to my upcoming trip let's see how it goes this time. It's been great fun the previous times.

I don't think the boates really care about what ID you use. They probably just want a name and DOB and maybe some "ID number" to add in their database.

I was using a NYC city ID with an old address as I wanted to be more discreet. The ID expired in 2021 and they didn't seem to notice or care. I used it at Scandallo, Cafe Photo, Bamboa, Connections and Casarao.

I even had a friend use his scuba diving ID from PADI and they accepted it!

For FX exchange, they've accepted both a black and white paper copy and photo of passport from phone.

Just wanted to add some comments about this place. I've read comments saying that only go there in the evening but boy you maybe missing out. So I had visited the clinicas during the day like prime and 57 house a few times but at prime sometimes there was just too much waiting on a busy day and one would have to be fortunate to snag a hot gal that one liked without some waiting at least. At 57 house there was hardly a few girls if at all during the day. I rarely venture out during the day so instead of checking out all the other daytime clinical decided to go to Scandallo one Saturday early afternoon. Now the number of chics were less than what you would find in the evening of course but there were enough hotties to pick from. And there is a free buffet going on and I just ask the staff to bring my bottle of booze which I always ensure an open bottle kept at the place during my entire stay in SP haha works out much cheaper that way kkkkk. Anyways that particular Saturday afternoon snagged a young hot student who was doing the early shift and what a refreshing change from the PROs. Anyway took her upstairs to the room where she had the porn channel on by the time I came out of the shower. She left the place after the session, and sometime later I snagged another early shift gal before she left. Came down had dinner by which time the evening shift girls started to come in. I was feeling really good now and enjoyed the scene for a couple of hours and having recuperated now picked up another two for a 3 some. And finally after midnight picked up one and took her back to the hotel. Must have spent around 4 K on the girls excluding room charges and booze but it was an amazing day mongering. This was more than a year ago not sure what the recent prices are like kkkkkk.

[QUOTE=SexIsLove;2936610]Just wanted to add some comments about this place. I've read comments saying that only go there in the evening but boy you maybe missing out. So I had visited the clinicas during the day like prime and 57 house a few times but at prime sometimes there was just too much waiting on a busy day and one would have to be fortunate to snag a hot gal that one liked without some waiting at least. At 57 house there was hardly a few girls if at all during the day. I rarely venture out during the day so instead of checking out all the other daytime clinical decided to go to Scandallo one Saturday early afternoon. Now the number of chics were less than what you would find in the evening of course but there were enough hotties to pick from. And there is a free buffet going on and I just ask the staff to bring my bottle of booze which I always ensure an open bottle kept at the place during my entire stay in SP haha works out much cheaper that way kkkkk. Anyways that particular Saturday afternoon snagged a young hot student who was doing the early shift and what a refreshing change from the PROs. Anyway took her upstairs to the room where she had the porn channel on by the time I came out of the shower. She left the place after the session, and sometime later I snagged another early shift gal before she left. Came down had dinner by which time the evening shift girls started to come in. I was feeling really good now and enjoyed the scene for a couple of hours and having recuperated now picked up another two for a 3 some. And finally after midnight picked up one and took her back to the hotel. Must have spent around 4 K on the girls excluding room charges and booze but it was an amazing day mongering. This was more than a year ago not sure what the recent prices are like kkkkkk.[/QUOTE]Sounds like one hell of a day!!

I am looking at planning something like this for my next trip to SP in September. Land at CGH and head straight to Scandello. Eat lunch and have a pop out of the way. Pay the afternoon entry and buy a bottle. Then head to hotel to check in, rest and freshen up, eat a nice meal nearby and head back to Scandello to finish the night. Rinse and repeat for the next three days. Might even try out Casarao late night to see how it goes. Will report back after my trip.

When a scandallo garota says she is on the way sometimes does not mean the same thing to me. We agree to go out. Fine, all agreed. Combinado.

The garota messages with a new idea. I am Always damn Suspicious of their bright new ideas.

Many of the scandalo garotas I met leaves long ass proto voice messages in multiple parts on wassap.

What is the best way or easiest way to automatically translate those WhatsApp voice messages? Like the feature in Telegram. Is there a voice transcription in one or two easy steps?

I learned Brazilian Porto on the streets, so some know some of the Rio or Sao Paulo related slang, but for other slang I got to to find the reference before the voice message locks up. Sometimes it takes me a while to translate the audio because of all of the stripper shit the garotas use in voice messages. We will have a great in-person conversations, flirting, jokes, flowing and fvcking around. Later they feel too damn comfortable leaving long ass voice messages in ten parts. The new feature in wassap to listen once to the audio sucks. Cannot easily replay.

BTW using laminated copy of passport, or expired Drivers license has worked fine for me especially in the office building with security check-in before accessing the elevators to Prives. Many places use face recognition. I think they caught some Brasilian gangster leader by scanning the faces at soccer game.

Toch. Try this to translate whatsapp [URL]https://www.news18.com/news/tech/how-to-translate-messages-on-whatsapp-a-step-by-step-guide-6942067.html[/URL].

On the ID thing, I had stated this in early posts, but, its always good to rewrite, I use my passport card, on travels. I do not use my Drivers Licenses (has home address, etc.). I leave my original passport in a safe, and carry the passport card.

[QUOTE=Tochka;2936763]When a scandallo garota says she is on the way sometimes does not mean the same thing to me. We agree to go out. Fine, all agreed. Combinado.

The garota messages with a new idea. I am Always damn Suspicious of their bright new ideas.

Many of the scandalo garotas I met leaves long ass proto voice messages in multiple parts on wassap.

What is the best way or easiest way to automatically translate those WhatsApp voice messages? Like the feature in Telegram. Is there a voice transcription in one or two easy steps?

I learned Brazilian Porto on the streets, so some know some of the Rio or Sao Paulo related slang, but for other slang I got to to find the reference before the voice message locks up. Sometimes it takes me a while to translate the audio because of all of the stripper shit the garotas use in voice messages. We will have a great in-person conversations, flirting, jokes, flowing and fvcking around. Later they feel too damn comfortable leaving long ass voice messages in ten parts. The new feature in wassap to listen once to the audio sucks. Cannot easily replay.

BTW using laminated copy of passport, or expired Drivers license has worked fine for me especially in the office building with security check-in before accessing the elevators to Prives. Many places use face recognition. I think they caught some Brasilian gangster leader by scanning the faces at soccer game.[/QUOTE]

Wow, SIL, you remind me of my younger days. I would need two days to recoupe from that. What an incredible Saturday. I agree, I was also surpised how many hotties were in Scandallo in an afternoon setting. Its kinda cool too, on a nice day, its a different vibe to sit in the outside area with a few light drinks and convo. You can not hide under the sun, no make up can cover that, so, I noticed a lot of the pretty gals tend to come early, like students, nice "next door type" of girls, and the roaring hoes come out night. Which I like both BTW, I take them all. LOL.

[QUOTE=SexIsLove;2936610]Just wanted to add some comments about this place. I've read comments saying that only go there in the evening but boy you maybe missing out. So I had visited the clinicas during the day like prime and 57 house a few times but at prime sometimes there was just too much waiting on a busy day and one would have to be fortunate to snag a hot gal that one liked without some waiting at least. At 57 house there was hardly a few girls if at all during the day. I rarely venture out during the day so instead of checking out all the other daytime clinical decided to go to Scandallo one Saturday early afternoon. Now the number of chics were less than what you would find in the evening of course but there were enough hotties to pick from. And there is a free buffet going on and I just ask the staff to bring my bottle of booze which I always ensure an open bottle kept at the place during my entire stay in SP haha works out much cheaper that way kkkkk. Anyways that particular Saturday afternoon snagged a young hot student who was doing the early shift and what a refreshing change from the PROs. Anyway took her upstairs to the room where she had the porn channel on by the time I came out of the shower. She left the place after the session, and sometime later I snagged another early shift gal before she left. Came down had dinner by which time the evening shift girls started to come in. I was feeling really good now and enjoyed the scene for a couple of hours and having recuperated now picked up another two for a 3 some. And finally after midnight picked up one and took her back to the hotel. Must have spent around 4 K on the girls excluding room charges and booze but it was an amazing day mongering. This was more than a year ago not sure what the recent prices are like kkkkkk.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2936775]Wow, SIL, you remind me of my younger days. I would need two days to recoupe from that. What an incredible Saturday. I agree, I was also surpised how many hotties were in Scandallo in an afternoon setting. Its kinda cool too, on a nice day, its a different vibe to sit in the outside area with a few light drinks and convo. You can not hide under the sun, no make up can cover that, so, I noticed a lot of the pretty gals tend to come early, like students, nice "next door type" of girls, and the roaring hoes come out night. Which I like both BTW, I take them all. LOL.[/QUOTE]It proves what I've been saying for years. Some on here say the only time to go for good action is late in the evening, but that's just not true. It's never been true! You can go at times other than the late evenings and still have a rocking good time according to your own preferences time-wise.

Realshaun Thanks for the site I will give it a try. The Scandallo Garota idea was much better than mine. After figuring out the ten stupid WhatsApp voice messages She offered a different plan for our night. Instead of going to Scandallo rooms or a motel for a few hours. She invited me to her home about 35 minutes away by Uber from Scandallo Club. She lives up in the hills somewhere in Sao Paulo with her sister and her son. The sister will take the kid to stay with their mom and return back quickly. I can stay at her place all night. She will make coffee and breakfast for me in the morning.

She wanted to give me a BJ deepthroat while we were watching Netflix.

Well ok! I remember Vagabundo reported about getting it on with garotas to Netflix shows.

Her idea has been on her bucket list, to live the experience of music Soja, Breja, e Netflix by Mac Julia and Penota with me and her sister.

She wanted to bang all night on the sofa, bed, kitchen, and different places, order good stuff marola from the moto guy for reais $250.

We smoked, drank, and banged in almost every room in the home. Then I switched her out to bang out her sister hard in bed, on the sofa.

The sister loves giving good head.

She wanted to live the experience of Soja, Breja, e Netflix by Mac Julia and Penota.

So glad I figured out the voice message. Of course I said that hell yes to her plan. It was an Epic night with a delicious home-cooked breakfast.

As I said before, I had no damn clue hot Scandallo garotas have their sex bucket list too. I feel like a dumb lucky mofo to be on hers.

Your Scandallo mileage may vary, S (YMMV) your experience is different from mine, your Garota bucket list might be different, and many things will be different. Only reporting my experiences, and how I roll. So get off your damn couch, get your own experience, and start checking off your mofo bucket list.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2936778]It proves what I've been saying for years. Some on here say the only time to go for good action is late in the evening, but that's just not true. It's never been true! You can go at times other than the late evenings and still have a rocking good time according to your own preferences time-wise.[/QUOTE]I said something similar to you. It's still YMMV in some way. The evening is a different scene. It's a good time to be in the restaurant with girls coming to stand in front of you and much less competition. You also see girls coming and going. If you come in late on a good night. The restaurant may be full.

The daytime scene is more like a small outdoor cafe then a club and the girls dressed accordingly based on the times I have been there. That is what one should expect if you have never been there before.

So The Cane, when are we going to hear the big BANG. Hehe.

[QUOTE=Tochka;2936796]She wanted to give me a BJ deepthroat while we were watching Netflix.[/QUOTE]How about when I am working during work hour or have a work meeting and getting a BJ. Haha.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2936858]How about when I am working during work hour or have a work meeting and getting a BJ. Haha.[/QUOTE]That sounds fun but make sure it doesn't turn into another Jeffery Toobin moment 😉.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2936778]It proves what I've been saying for years. Some on here say the only time to go for good action is late in the evening, but that's just not true. It's never been true! You can go at times other than the late evenings and still have a rocking good time according to your own preferences time-wise.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2936856]I said something similar to you. It's still YMMV in some way. The evening is a different scene. It's a good time to be in the restaurant with girls coming to stand in front of you and much less competition. You also see girls coming and going. If you come in late on a good night. [/QUOTE]The type of girls that work during daytime tend to be the ones with kids, pretending to be working a some normal job or going to college, so they can get back home by evening to maintain the appearance of doing normal job / college. In my opinion, most of the daytime girls tend to be the ones with kids followed by other types I mentioned. Is that not the case with Scandallo? Those visited daytime more than few times, what is the lineup mix like?

[QUOTE=Lalabo;2936880]The type of girls that work during daytime tend to be the ones with kids, pretending to be working a some normal job or going to college, so they can get back home by evening to maintain the appearance of doing normal job / college. In my opinion, most of the daytime girls tend to be the ones with kids followed by other types I mentioned. Is that not the case with Scandallo? Those visited daytime more than few times, what is the lineup mix like?[/QUOTE]Most Scandallo afternoon girls have husbands, boyfriends or kids and because of these constraints they choose to work the afternoon to early evening shift. I checked out Scandallo before 7 pm and I prefer going later to catch the 2nd shift (10 pm to closing time) girls. Although there may be a few decent quality looking girls early on, they are no comparison to what you will find in Scandallo after 9:30 pm. Afternoon girls ask less, although YMMV.

On my last couple of trips to SP, I have been doing some of the boutique, "higher end" clinicas. The all inclusive price is between 640 to 750 for 1 hour. Some of these girls are Scandallo quality and some are not. They all tell me the same thing IE that they have boyfriends or families and need / want to be home by 7 pm.

I mean, when she says, she's going to college, she's not going to college. But I roll with it, play role, its fun. I listen to all the different stories they tell me. Some have businesses, some are aspiring doctors, etc. , I don't know what the mix is with kids, no kids, college, what I do know 100 percent, is that you can not hide with make up. A lot more prettier ones do come in the afternoon. Even tho its a much smaller crowd. There been times, I found a super cute one in the afternoon, and she ended up leaving with me for the rest of the night, we ate, went out, back to my place, etc. It was great.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;2936880]The type of girls that work during daytime tend to be the ones with kids, pretending to be working a some normal job or going to college, so they can get back home by evening to maintain the appearance of doing normal job / college. In my opinion, most of the daytime girls tend to be the ones with kids followed by other types I mentioned. Is that not the case with Scandallo? Those visited daytime more than few times, what is the lineup mix like?[/QUOTE]

A story which sounds plausible is that daytime venues (like clinicas) are popular with married women who need a daily schedule undistinguishable from office work. They tell hubby they're off to the office. Instead they go clock in at the clinica.

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2936161]Tochka. Your right on these. BTW isn't Panda Motel in Rio? What is your favorite Love motel and room type in Sao Paulo. I have yet to go to a Love Motel. Will definitely check it out on the next one.

Here is my.

Ever notice, When you go to Scandallo, out of the elevator to the left is a couch where garatos sit? If the couch is empty, means there's a lot of dudes in the place.

Ever notice, that no one sits at the second level where the DJ is located, probably because people think it is mandatory to pay for the table bottle service. Which is not true. You are not required to get a table. Unless a huge party comes in and they need the space, but that is rare. However, I recommend you go up there for a little while as soon as you come in to the place, so you can scope out the ladies downstairs with no interruptions. Set your sites on one, and I promise, she will see you looking at her. If she doesn't, the bouncers will go down and get her for you (that's what I call service! Call her up, and her friends. Been many times, I would have 4 or 5 garatos up there, and I would tip the DJ and he would play all my favorite joints. Its like having your own party and no one in the place knows otherwise LOL.

Enjoy![/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip about the DJ booth upstairs as VIP treatment. The outdoor patio was closed, and roped off, it's freaking cold to Brasilians but perfect NFL fall weather in Sao Paulo.

There was another velvet rope blocking the stairs to the second-floor balcony. As you mentioned the scandallo manager had no problem moving aside the VIP ropes. My hot garotas chicas were thrilled, they felt like VIPs as he opened the velvet ropes for all of us to enter the balcony. I took a quick photo of my chicas shaking their fine-ass bundas ascending the stairs. We had the entire DJ booth, and tables to ourselves. Damn fvcking great idea. We partied drinking, ordered food, and danced, while the DJ did our Spotify playlist. Kkkk sorry to all of you in Scandallo that night, the DJ played my girlfriend's playlist of music.

The waiters, managers, security, and other DJs stopped by the balcony to greet us. EPIC night.

I got some good luvin from my Brasilian girlfriend and her very pretty lesbian morena. She pounced on me all night long. They never experienced Scandallo VIP treatment. Well worth the effort.

We went to Motel my flowers for all nighter. Large bed for the four of us with a huge Jacuzzi.

As always your scandallo mileage may vary S (YMMV).

If you want a laugh, follow this review thread on gpguia for Allegra. Use google translate. This guy did everything you are not supposed to do and the girl even jumps on the thread to comment back. Too crazy to be real.

[URL]https://www.gp-guia.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=265776[/URL]

[QUOTE=RealShaun;2937003]I mean, when she says, she's going to college, she's not going to college. But I roll with it, play role, its fun. I listen to all the different stories they tell me. Some have businesses, some are aspiring doctors, etc.......[/QUOTE]Firstly, they should be able to speak a little English, then I hold discussions on their profession of choice. One girl I was with was a dental assistant, another was a journalist, I confirmed both as true.

I say, less talk, more action. Swallow my load and gargle it while their telling me their future professions. LOL.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2937251]Firstly, they should be able to speak a little English, then I hold discussions on their profession of choice. One girl I was with was a dental assistant, another was a journalist, I confirmed both as true.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tochka;2937030]Thanks for the tip about the DJ booth upstairs as VIP treatment. The outdoor patio was closed, and roped off, it's freaking cold to Brasilians but perfect NFL fall weather in Sao Paulo.

There was another velvet rope blocking the stairs to the second-floor balcony. As you mentioned the scandallo manager had no problem moving aside the VIP ropes. My hot garotas chicas were thrilled, they felt like VIPs as he opened the velvet ropes for all of us to enter the balcony. I took a quick photo of my chicas shaking their fine-ass bundas ascending the stairs. We had the entire DJ booth, and tables to ourselves. Damn fvcking great idea. We partied drinking, ordered food, and danced, while the DJ did our Spotify playlist. Kkkk sorry to all of you in Scandallo that night, the DJ played my girlfriend's playlist of music.

The waiters, managers, security, and other DJs stopped by the balcony to greet us. EPIC night.

I got some good luvin from my Brasilian girlfriend and her very pretty lesbian morena. She pounced on me all night long. They never experienced Scandallo VIP treatment. Well worth the effort.

We went to Motel my flowers for all nighter. Large bed for the four of us with a huge Jacuzzi.

As always your scandallo mileage may vary S (YMMV).[/QUOTE]I never knew about the second floor. I assume there is no charge to go up there.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2937318]I never knew about the second floor. I assume there is no charge to go up there.[/QUOTE]I was denied access one time and so I never tried to go up there again.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2937318]I never knew about the second floor. I assume there is no charge to go up there.[/QUOTE]Free to go up. You can get a table without any requirement. I am not sure if it's the same when the place is full. It's a good spot if you already have a date.

Working through different accomodation optons and what might be best in terms of areas.

But one thing having read the first 25+ pages is around hotels and being guest friendly?

I see with some bookings then need ID of all guests up front.

What is the user experience? Does it differ from Airbnb to Hotel? Cheap hotel to 5 star?

Whilst I understand the benefit of the love hotels, would prefer to use the convenience of my own.

Likely looking at combo of order in as well as meet at bar / boates.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2937327]I was denied access one time and so I never tried to go up there again.[/QUOTE]My Garota girlfriend, her sister, and I invited a new gal we met to join us for a Scandallo night.

Since it was her first time there she wanted to know how Scandallo works. We took her on a tour of the place. When we walked past the pool table I saw the stairs were roped off closed. I went to the long-time manager saying we were giving our newbie gal a tour of the place. He was delighted to give us a private tour plus access to the second floor. The chicas were thrilled feeling very special with the VIP treatment.

They never experienced that level of VIP service before in Scandalo. It was a big man-on-campus BMOC experience.

Turns out we knew both the DJs and the staff upstairs. It was a damn fun time.

Ever notice the Scandallo staff? The bathroom cleaners, wait staff, security guys, the four cashiers upstairs, the four cashiers at reception, the parking attendant guys, the locker gals, the food servers, the chefs, the bathroom cleaners, the four cleaning guys on the second and third floor, the elevator guy, the DJs, the female cashier manager upstairs and downstairs. Some folks have been working there twelve years 12 years. I make an effort to greet each one no matter their job. My girlfriend and I see the staff on the Metro, in the supermarket, on the Ombibus, leaving the malls or working an extra job in the love motels.

All week we were running into them in different places. So have been greeting each other outside of the club. Inside Scandallo we greet each other as " La Familia" So our interactions are different. Anyhow the balcony with my three garotas was the best time ever! And the BMOC tour by the manager. Was special for them.

Thanks to Nounce, and Realshaun for sharing their info.

S-YMMV your SCANDALLO Mileage may vary, your experience is different from mine, and your access to the balcony, tours, and meeting the service staff different from mine. You may or may not be in the familia network. Dunno. I only share my experience, get up, go out, have your enjoyment in Brazil.

[QUOTE=Tochka;2937461]
Ever notice the Scandallo staff? The bathroom cleaners, wait staff, security guys, the four cashiers upstairs, the four cashiers at reception, the parking attendant guys, the locker gals, the food servers, the chefs, the bathroom cleaners, the four cleaning guys on the second and third floor, the elevator guy, the DJs, the female cashier manager upstairs and downstairs. Some folks have been working there twelve years 12 years. I make an effort to greet each one no matter their job. [/QUOTE]That is a lot of staff to greet on any given night. KKK.

[QUOTE=Tochka;2937461] My girlfriend and I see the staff on the Metro, in the supermarket, on the Ombibus, leaving the malls or working an extra job in the love motels.

All week we were running into them in different places. So have been greeting each other outside of the club. Inside Scandallo we greet each other as " La Familia" So our interactions are different. Anyhow the balcony with my three garotas was the best time ever! And the BMOC tour by the manager. Was special for them.

S-YMMV your SCANDALLO Mileage may vary, your experience is different from mine, and your access to the balcony, tours, and meeting the service staff different from mine. You may or may not be in the familia network. Dunno. I only share my experience, get up, go out, have your enjoyment in Brazil. [/QUOTE]I am on friendly terms with one of the patio bartenders, the tall black elevator guy, and all of the hotel clerks who give me a knowing smile every time I get a room since they have seen me with all manner of girls and girls. One time the elevator guy gave me a private thumbs up when I got off the elevator with a buxom blond, that he seemed to know, and while I was waiting in the lobby for her to get something from the lady's room. The blond was not really my type, but I think she was definitely his. KKK. Nice girl and that session turned out to be very passionate, although I never repeated with her.

Any who, many of the Scandallo staff recognize me from repeat visits, and we exchange smiles & nods in passing, but Bomboa is where I am always treated like a VIP. I have my favorite matre Dd who knows where I like to sit, and what I like to drink solo (coke light) & when I am with a girl (gin). He always goes out of his way to take real good care of me, so whenever I go there it feels like this is MY neighborhood bordello. KKK. Maybe it is a case of a smaller club having more personal service; I don't know, but it is good to hear that the folks at Scandallo treat you in a similar manner. I like reading positive reports like this.

P.S. In regard to my Bomboa matre Dd; I always take care of him on my last night in Bomboa, every trip. I know Brazil is a no tipping country, but I will tip (not the girls; they are independent contractors) for exceptional service when I receive it.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2937327]I was denied access one time and so I never tried to go up there again.[/QUOTE]It seems to me at least that the balcony area is closed off when it's slow I guess so girls can't hide up there or a guy has to mingle downstairs and get tempted to go with some girls eventually.

I know very well, one time tho when I went last September that it was roped off because the artist THE WEEKND stopped by and wanted his privacy. He did a show in sao paulo earlier that day and took 3 afro brazilian girls with him. He was able to pick out girls walking around the club area and a waiter would bring them up to him so he could chill in peace. He only took the afro brazilian girls and since there are not that many in scan he basically took them all kkkk.

[QUOTE=Jqqmitch;2937396]Working through different accomodation optons and what might be best in terms of areas.

But one thing having read the first 25+ pages is around hotels and being guest friendly?

I see with some bookings then need ID of all guests up front.

What is the user experience? Does it differ from Airbnb to Hotel? Cheap hotel to 5 star?

Whilst I understand the benefit of the love hotels, would prefer to use the convenience of my own.

Likely looking at combo of order in as well as meet at bar / boates.[/QUOTE]I personally prefer hotels over Airbnb because I have elite level status that gives me free breakfast and lounge access for free snacks, waters, soda and coffee all day. Plus I want breakfast ready to go when I wake up and not have to work for it😜. There is also the safety issue. If you bring a girl to the hotel, she has to register (you don't have to register her at some hotels if you don't want to) but I always do. They take a copy of her ID and she knows that so she is much much less likely to steal or cause drama. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen though so you have to be careful anyways. Plus. The security at a hotel in case she decides to rob you and bring her friends over. Much less likely to happen at a big hotel (heard of this happening in Colombia recently).

On the other side of the equation, the girls also feel safer if you are staying at big hotel especially if they are going for an overnight with an unknown foreigner. They have some security options vs going to a random airbnb.

Coming from a person who always does overnights at his hotel. I like my bed and my space. Although I have never stayed at Airbnbs due to my benefits of elite status.

[QUOTE=Jqqmitch;2937396]Working through different accomodation optons and what might be best in terms of areas.

But one thing having read the first 25+ pages is around hotels and being guest friendly?

I see with some bookings then need ID of all guests up front.

What is the user experience? Does it differ from Airbnb to Hotel? Cheap hotel to 5 star?

Whilst I understand the benefit of the love hotels, would prefer to use the convenience of my own.

Likely looking at combo of order in as well as meet at bar / boates.[/QUOTE]I have stayed in both Hotels and Airbnbs. I too like hotels for the reasons Anaggie mentioned. As long as you book in a girl friendly hotels (search in the forum should provide you the list) you have no problem bringing girls at any hour. Some hotels may change small guest fee (even if you booked the room for 2 people) but most don't. Lots of Airbnbs don't allow guests. Even when the host agrees, apartment security (which is intendent of the host) can cause problems about you brining a guest that wasn't registered during check-in. You don't want that drama especially when you bring different girls every day, especially late at night. I would stay in hotel and not deal with unexpected hassles.

I agree with Anaggie and Lalabo and I favor hotels for all the reasons given, but if I were planning a stay of 6 months or longer, I would rent a condo making sure beforehand and in writing, I could bring over whoever I wanted at any time. I would conduct my condo search on the ground in SP or RJ, so I could inspect the apartment and building in person and there would be no mistakes.

Fwiw, facebook marketplace has worked to find a condo rental 6+ months in RJ.

I've been in this place which is huge, 3 bedrooms including one for servants, huge front living room, huge balcony, 8th floor overlooking praia macumba and the atlantic, and not once in 7 months has the owner ever been in my place, and I can bring anyone in, no facial recongition system, just a few doormen I know. I've had porn stars in here, and within a easy hike of praia abrico, the famous nude beach, and a morning walk to the best swim surf beach in rio, praia macumba, liteally voodoo beach.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2937609]I agree with Anaggie and Lalabo and I favor hotels for all the reasons given, but if I were planning a stay of 6 months or longer, I would rent a condo making sure beforehand and in writing, I could bring over whoever I wanted at any time. I would conduct my condo search on the ground in SP or RJ, so I could inspect the apartment and building in person and there would be no mistakes.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2937639]I've been in this place which is huge, 3 bedrooms including one for servants, huge front living room, huge balcony, 8th floor overlooking praia macumba and the atlantic, and not once in 7 months has the owner ever been in my place, and I can bring anyone in, no facial recongition system, just a few doormen I know. I've had porn stars in here, and within a easy hike of praia abrico, the famous nude beach, and a morning walk to the best swim surf beach in rio, praia macumba, liteally voodoo beach.[/QUOTE]Vagabundo, it sounds like a great location. If you don't mind my asking, PM me, por favor, if you prefer not to say publicly; how much does this condo run you? By comparison, a 3-bedroom condo on A1 A with an Atlantic Ocean view in Broward or Palm Beach County in Florida would easily run over $4,000/ month and the Florida girls are not half as friendly.

I end up paying about 5500 reais or 1000 USD per month. But I have a real kitchen, and all the rest I described, including the highest speed internet. The biggest downside is the distance from centro, but that is also the upside for me. There are no gringos. Which I like. No tourists. I wear my vasco shirt and my bombeiro civil cap and keep my gringo mouth shut. The local terma is Paris which is top tier IMHO, best girls show up here and go back and forth between Perola Negra, and the local prive is Recreio Terapias, which at 250 r is more expensive than some centro prives which were 150 but have generally gone up to 180 r. I have a few regulars trained to take buses for pernoites, or being cheap, I will reluctantly pay for uber, and I even uber in and out the odd college girl. The plus side is Praia Macumba which is the best surf swim beach in Rio because of the geography created by Pontal which creates a little cove protected from the currents so there is about 2 square KM of swim / surf plain, right in front of a awesome beach with like zero idiot tourists to screw it up, and the hottest local girls. I picked this particular area because of a fellow countryman veteran who also rented from Facebook marketplace down the street, also a two bedroom, newer construction better amenities in the condo, so I have a aquaintance in the area. This area is past posto 12, and I will probably look in the area of posto 11 / Paris Cafe in the future.

And yeah, the women compared to rich world pussy prison, don't even get me started again. As I mentioned elsewhere on ISG, I know a fellow ISG member who literally had a heart attack because of social isolation, IMHO and expert diagnosis, because of the shitty treatment of women in puritan pussy prison. Fuk that.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2937710]Vagabundo, it sounds like a great location. If you don't mind my asking, PM me, por favor, if you prefer not to say publicly; how much does this condo run you? By comparison, a 3-bedroom condo on A1 A with an Atlantic Ocean view in Broward or Palm Beach County in Florida would easily run over $4,000/ month and the Florida girls are not half as friendly.[/QUOTE]

Ever notice in scandallo.

You take a garota for a session in the room. She looks damn hot. Eager to get it on. Let's get to action quickly baby. Screw the shower I want you now! And then slowly realize she is not an illusion of Passion (IoP) . Nada. No chemistry. Maybe a starfish or too many damn rules. Don't touch her hair, her makeup will be ruined if I nut on her face, shitty rules like that. So nut in her mouth. Still don't know why asked for her WhatsApp number. Or why she gave me her Instagram. When the plan is to never repeat with her again.

The next night in Scandallo we walk passed each other saying nothing. Nada. Except a glance as we pass each other near the bar or bathroom.

Three months later she is still there but now there are three more Scandallo garotas. It just did not work out. We are ignoring each other. Nine months later, walking past a dozen pretty ass garotas where we recognize each other faces. And I will won't repeat again.

I blocked them on wassap and her stupid page long rants that I"m an ass. Yup I knew that already. Haha. We will never session again and I don't want to read her wassap screed that I'm an ass or treated her like hoar. (shrug) sweetie you work in upscale hoarhouse, a hoe in makeup and a dress.

But she is still there in Scandallo, feels like living in Alanis Morisette's song she is still there to remind me of the mess I made with her and a dozen others. Hahaha ever noticed the scandallo garotas you session with, never to repeat again?

[QUOTE=Tochka;2937992]Ever notice in scandallo.

You take a garota for a session in the room. She looks damn hot. Eager to get it on. Let's get to action quickly baby. Screw the shower I want you now! And then slowly realize she is not an illusion of Passion (IoP) . Nada. No chemistry. Maybe a starfish or too many damn rules. Don't touch her hair, her makeup will be ruined if I nut on her face, shitty rules like that. So nut in her mouth. Still don't know why asked for her WhatsApp number. Or why she gave me her Instagram. When the plan is to never repeat with her again.

[/QUOTE]So even in Scandallo you can get a tourist fuck.

Hey Tochka, don't take this the wrong way but if your Scandallo fail to connect rate is as high as you seem to be reporting, then possibly the problem lies with you and not the girls. Don't you test drive your girls before taking them upstairs to make sure there is chemistry? And if the chemistry between yous is lacking at a secluded table, move on in a friendly way. There is no shortage of girls in Scandallo. My stats: around 10% of the girls I interview fail the audition for a million different reasons and not every Scandallo girl I take upstairs is going to be 4th of July or repeat worthy, just like not every girl I shag is model quality, but I can't recall one Scandallo girl that did not perform and do her job for me.

"A starfish"? Never, "Don't touch her hair. " Never heard of such a thing. No DFK! Are you kidding? This sounds like you are talking about Thailand. KKK.

"Nut on her face", KKK. Well, you should tell the girls that you are auditioning down in the bar that that is how you like to finish. Same same for BBFS if that is what you want. It is a free country. If a girl doesn't want a cream pie in the face, she does not have to have one. It is not the same thing as a BBBJ which I still consider the default everywhere and I will not accept a plastic BJ.

On the subject of spotting girls you have been with, but do not want to repeat with: just smile, nod your head in a friendly way, or say Hi. If you feel like it, buy her a drink. She might have some friends that will be of more interest to you nearby. The girls talk to one another about their customers. The good and the bad. Either way it is no big deal. Just be cordial and friendly. The girls are used to butterflies.

I once had this hot indigenous girl. The sex was 4th of July and a lot more. What a girl! But after the 4th or 5th session I started to lose my desire for her. She always performed great, but it was always the same, so the excitement kind of wore off. I guess it was me. I was the problem. KKK. So, whenever I saw her, I would still say Hi and I even bought her a drink a couple of times, but after a short while I always told her I was looking for somebody else and then I would move on. She saw me with other girls. She got the message. It is business, not love. KKK. No big deal, and even now, I still smile and give her a nod whenever I see her in patio bar at her favorite spot. Sometimes she is alone and sometimes she is with another customer. It is all good. She would still go upstairs with me in a split second and fuck the living shit out of me if I asked her to. I just moved on. That's all.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2938058]Hey Tochka, don't take this the wrong way but if your Scandallo fail to connect rate is as high as you seem to be reporting, then possibly the problem lies with you and not the girls. Don't you test drive your girls before taking them upstairs to make sure there is chemistry? And if the chemistry between yous is lacking at a secluded table, move on in a friendly way. There is no shortage of girls in Scandallo.[/QUOTE]If a monger is having a high percentage of fails or bad sessions, then I think that says something about the monger's screening / selection process as well. Something wrong is going on there too, and it needs to be figured out and corrected.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2938110]If a monger is having a high percentage of fails or bad sessions, then I think that says something about the monger's screening / selection process as well. Something wrong is going on there too, and it needs to be figured out and corrected.[/QUOTE]Mostly agree. My bad / weak session percentage in Brasil is extremely low. In dozens of trips over the years, I can think of 3 instances where a Brasilera gave me a tourist fuck. What makes this more salient is that I speak good Spanish but very little Portugues. So you'd think I'd do better in Colombia, DR, Cuba, etc. But my best experiences by far have been in Brasil.


That said, Tochka (the OP) seems to have plenty of great sessions (at least based on what he writes here).

[QUOTE=TheCane;2938110]If a monger is having a high percentage of fails or bad sessions, then I think that says something about the monger's screening / selection process as well. Something wrong is going on there too, and it needs to be figured out and corrected.[/QUOTE]Yep, it's rare in Brazil but a combination of alcohol and approaching closing time has led me to a bad decision or two. I sometimes think a hot Brasileira is wandering around late in the evening because the regulars know her service is for shit.

One time I pulled a hot, blonde angel at Termas 4 x 4 who turned out to be a starfish. Yeah, 4 x4 of all places. She was not your typical Brasileira. A very pretty Euro, natural blonde type from the South. (The Cane would have turned her over and hammered her ass. That's a compliment caner.) I can tell you I lost me head and didn't really do a lot of work to see if there was a vibe.

Thanks Nounce, Wyatt, Cane, Combo, AlexH, Bearsi interesting comments dudes. The Garotas agree with ya in their wassap chat. Especially when I am drinking too much and smoking some strong weed in Scandallo rooms. Ok haha.

Yup Same here, banged two very exotic-looking Indigenous beauties and combined them a skinny pale, fiery red-haired model in Scandallo. The sex contrast was fvcking awesome. After three or four months of this fantasy sex foursome, no more thrill so moved on. Usually I do threesomes or more in scandallos, clincas or boates, or prives. Although moved on to another foursome, the chicas gatotas are still there in roaming around scandallos. So there is a group of leftover threesome garotas in the Scandallo club, not to repeat where we acknowledge and ignore each other. EXCEPT when they send the wassap messages to send PIX. Don't know if you fellas get the PIX rmessages from lovely IoP garotas. . ?

I created a humorous Brasilian garota Sticker called Nao PiX as a wassap reply.

Went to Abbobora in Moema to see their hot blonde lineup. Abbbora is slightly more expensive than nearby clinicas in Moema. There is no forista discount which sucks.

Recently scheduled in advance with blonde Camila. She messaged me, she works there now because of the better and faster money payout. Told her to grab a cutie friend for a threesome. She knows my style of chica in bed. Haha,

This time the receptionist's attitude was better. Maybe because scheduled in advance? Shrug. In the lobby were several swinging dicks waiting on the presentation.

Must be payday.

I was directed out the door and turned left down the corridor to the next door to the old familiar Hotel Shiga. Entered there to pay for the room and session at reception. Think it was reais $400 or reais $350 for an hour session. Duplo threesome is more. . don't remember the exact amount you can look up rooms on the website.

[URL]www.abbobora.com.br/[/URL]

I was too busy paying when the lovely, Camila came out to reception with her pretty friend, holding a glass filled with chilled ice of my favorite whiskey in hand. Her girlfriend had the Marola. They were distracting me with soft licks, kisses, and pulling on my Johnson while trying to pay credit card. I only mustered a few Porto words in between threesome kisses "push 2 push red " for reais. , before the two garotas whisked me off into the back room suites. Two hours later, done, exhausted. Relaxed, sharing around the weed. Now Camilla starts with the stripper shit SS again, let's go out to Mogi das Cruzes tomorrow, we can take her car. After her shift today let's go to Box 09 Show Bar Karaoke, its around the corner. China Box for hot Asian takeout they open to midnight. Grab more bottles of whiskey and Gin Adega Moema they open till 11 pm and let go together into 57 Friends for drinks with other Clinica garotas.

Dudes the next report is on the fine ass twenty year old Angel in Tangara. Better schedule her quick, I going to book her and her girlfriend all afternoon hahaha.

Just to mention from recent posts. Sao Paulo is home for 13 Million people. The chances to come across people you know in markets, metro, onibus in a single day is VERY LOW. This would only happen in very small cities. So funny LOL.

This is one of the reasons why girls from one side of the city work during day time in massage parlors or clubs in the other side of the city.