American Politics

[QUOTE=Spidy;2999606][b]92% Of EV Owners Will Never Go Back To ICE-Only, New Study[/b]
[url]https://www.carscoops.com/2024/12/99-of-ev-owners-will-never-go-back-to-ice-only-new-study-says/[/url]

Once you drive an EV, it turns out according to the latest survey, you NEVER go back....[i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i]


As for how to solve the overnight charging for EV owners in apartments, I think, it requires a lot more urban planning.

But the way I see it, all that urban planning may not be necessary, as battery tech is changing so fast, that 5-15 min. from 10-80%, is already here, at least in China (at any rate). And if the American Fuhrer, would just get fuck outta the way of progress, the overnight charging for apartment EV owners, wouldn't be a thing/issue.[/QUOTE]Probably not in Europe where we have much better quality for thermic cars. I laugh on free speed German autobahns. Not 60 miles.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2999600]While gas taxes and ticket fees do contribute, theyre only part of the picture, as federal and state governments, also play a major role in funding the building of bridges and airports.[/QUOTE]The federal government also transfers general revenues to the Highway Trust Fund when necessary to cover funding shortfalls.

However, this is not a direct allocation from federal income tax revenues but rather from general government funds, which include various sources of revenue.

You are still striking out.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2999600]So I guess all these police and LE agencies like FBI, ATF, DEA, U.S. Marshall, ICE and FEMA/U.S. Fire Administration, are what...all funded by local 5th grade elementary school lemonade stands?

You thirsty, Elvis 2008?[/QUOTE]FEMA was used to pay for housing for illegals, and I have never used their services.

I never used any ATF service, and I do not know why they even exist, and I have never used any service of the USA Marshall service.

Since the DEA was formed, drugs are more available, more potent, and cheaper than ever. I have never used any of their services and wish they did not exist.

The FBI launched a coup against the president I voted for. I have never used their services either.

How come you did not mention the TSA? Because those are people who have harassed citizens and have been proven to do no good at all? If you include being harassed by a government agency, then yes, you could say I have paid the TSA to harass me. Are you proud of yourself? LOL. ICE allowed millions of illegals in under Biden. My only experience with them is they are part of the same harassment group as the TSA.

I will take my lemonade for free now, mo fo. You still got nothing.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2999624]Probably not in Europe where we have much better quality for thermic cars. I laugh on free speed German autobahns. Not 60 miles.[/QUOTE]Actually, coming to Europe this year! Watch it and weep. Enjoy driving your dinosaur.

[URL]https://youtu.be/hq9vXFGGbcg?si=obreRbU6B7iKIWki[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2999531]And this is why you are on ignore.[/QUOTE]I am not on ignore. Only in your imagination only. You cannot quote my posts if you have me on ignore. You read every damn post I write. You also responded to many of them.

[U]NVDA[/U]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2999531]Obviously, the sarcastic comment I made [b]went over your pea sized brain[/b].[/QUOTE]Really, how long I have I owned NVDA? [B]Since 2023. I told you about it and AAPL.[/B].

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2825910]Do you even know what symbols like BTC, ETH, ADA, AAPL DVN, NVDA represent? You know how to calculate the DFC of the projected future cash flows of a real estate investment in order to determine the proper amount to pay for it regardless of demand? Do you know what it actually means to be a capitalist where you buy or start a business, meet a payroll and earn a profit? Or have you been a wage slave your entire life?

This is your opportunity to inform me about your background. The only reason I went there is because individuals who know me would never question if I was a socialist.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2999531]Uh, I paid for my passport.[/QUOTE][B]So did I[/B]

Another example of your lack of understanding the most basic of concepts about government infrastructure. The United States State Department is the government agency funded by federal taxes. The entire infrastructure that allows you to travel under the Blue Passport issued from the United States of America is due to the infrastructure the United States State Department has developed over the years. I know you travel because you brag about fucking the most expensive prostitutes in Medellin, Colombia. [B]ROTFLMAO[/B].

You ever read what it says in your Passport?

[I]The Secretary of the State of the United States of America hereby requests all whom it may concern to permit the citizen/national of the United States named herein to pass without delay or hinderance and in case of need to give all lawful aid and protection[/I]

[B]You dont find that useful?[/B]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2999531][b]While you are so impressed with yourself, all I see is some narcissistic loser posting worthless my dick is bigger than yours bullshit.[/b][/QUOTE]While you think you are so intelligent I see a Republican individual who does not like the fact that I can stand toe to toe to you in your county of origin and give as hard as you can dish it out. Add to that I don't look like you. You especially don't like your fellow Americans that look like me. When you lose the intellectual argument you go into [B]ad hominem[/B] attack mode.

Here was your first reply to me:

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2825778]Does this idiot get the concept of supply and demand [b]or is he another socialist[/b] that he thinks that he deserves better service because of his virtue signaling?[/QUOTE]Now you are even attributing quotes to me that were written by someone else in order to make your points. But you just continue to lie like all the Republican Racists do.

[B]How you like me now?[/B]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2999721]The federal government also transfers general revenues to the Highway Trust Fund when necessary to cover funding shortfalls.

However, this is not a direct allocation from federal income tax revenues but rather from general government funds, which include various sources of revenue.

You are still striking out.

FEMA was used to pay for housing for illegals, and I have never used their services.

I never used any ATF service, and I do not know why they even exist, and I have never used any service of the USA Marshall service.

Since the DEA was formed, drugs are more available, more potent, and cheaper than ever. I have never used any of their services and wish they did not exist.

The FBI launched a coup against the president I voted for. I have never used their services either.

How come you did not mention the TSA? Because those are people who have harassed citizens and have been proven to do no good at all? If you include being harassed by a government agency, then yes, you could say I have paid the TSA to harass me. Are you proud of yourself? LOL. ICE allowed millions of illegals in under Biden. My only experience with them is they are part of the same harassment group as the TSA.

I will take my lemonade for free now, mo fo. You still got nothing.[/QUOTE]We know neither you nor anyone in your family ever used a flush-toilet. So next time you hop from rock to rock on the way to the communal outhouse, check around the yard and see if you can identify anything that might have been delivered to the nearest wampum exchange by way of the Interstate Highway system.

Or perhaps that was orginally sourced from a country that our brave USA Military liberated and converted or retained as a cherished low cost trading partner.

Anything at all?

For instance, I'm also curious to know if the roasted skunk is ever served with, oh, French wine or German sauerkraut.

[QUOTE=HotDog666;2999619]He (American Jew) is one of the smartest and well informed people in America. 100%correct on solution for America's deficit. However I would add that America needs to reform it's healthcare which consumes twice as much per GDP shares as other countries much worse outcomes. It also needs to reduce aggregate consumption if it cannot increase production. Basic microeconomics.

On Israel, he eviscirates the obfuscation and propaganda of zionazis.

[URL]https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNd2fjBM8/[/URL][/QUOTE]To add to this, how you guys got into this mess.

Iraq war: including all indirect expenditure: around $ 7 trillion on a needless and unjust war.

Covid: around $4 trillion.

So that's around $11 trillion or around 30% of the total debt.

Now moving forward:

Annual American military spend: around $ 1 trillion, or 3. 5 % of GDP annually.

Annual American healthcare spend: around $4. 5 trillion or 18% of GDP.

There's a clue there on what you need to go after. Yet this dumb fuck Musk thinks going after the peanuts from social security or critical govt programs or aid to the poorest people on the planet is somehow the solution- highly unlikely he will even save the $160 billion (itself being a fraction of the $2 trillion the Vice BS'er claimed initially).

Why does America need to spend 40% of the world's military spend? Let's save the spiel about how America is saving Nato- let the Europeans sort themselves out. Do you need 700 military bases? Do you know why it is China can make a new fighter jet for about 30% of the cost that America does?

As if it would make any difference to Russia if it were halved, and frankly sooner or later China will win out over America where it matters for them on Taiwan so you might as well throw in the towel now. So let's say that's 1. 5% of GDP savings by halving defence. Hey as a bonus people may start liking America again if you no longer threaten genocide and ethnic cleansing to appease your zionazi overlords.

American healthcare is a mess-I know as I have worked with pharma companies in Europe who charge one price to the ROW and another vastly inflated price to Americans-add on to this all the other insurance and other disfunctions and you still have a terrible system- other countries spend 10%-13% of their GDP on healthcare for vastly better systems. So a proper reform here should yield 6% of your savings. Why is America incapable of taking this on- I just don't get it. If you can put a man on the moon you can freaking reform your healthcare properly, instead of having a succession of bullshitters who fray around the edges from both the Dems and the Republicans.

And so you have it, 7% plus of GDP savings pa. Being what Prof Sachs says America accumulates every year.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2999791]We know neither you nor anyone in your family ever used a flush-toilet. So next time you hop from rock to rock on the way to the communal outhouse, check around the yard and see if you can identify anything that might have been delivered to the nearest wampum exchange by way of the Interstate Highway system.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.pgpf.org/article/budget-explainer-highway-trust-fund/[/URL]

You look at this and it just shows how gutless the Feds are. They are too chicken shit to raise gasoline taxes to cover highway expenses and instead are racking up debt. There is no reason for any income tax to go towards highways.

[QUOTE]The average Social Security benefit was just $1,979 per month for retired workers in January 2025.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2999133]Yes, you are getting a $4000 check from the government and your paying back $500 of that $4000 is what you consider paying taxes.[/QUOTE][B]Where did you get your numbers from E2008?[/B]

[QUOTE]To qualify for Social Security's largest checks, you need to consistently earn an amount equal to or greater than the taxable wage base for the year. In 2025, that's $176,100. This limit was lower in past years and will likely be higher in future years.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/retirement/2025/03/20/max-social-security-benefit-2025/81887245007/[/URL]

How much taxes are paid by individuals and employees for Social Security?

[QUOTE]Social Security is financed through a dedicated payroll tax. Employers and employees each pay 6.2 percent of wages up to the taxable maximum of $176,100 (in 2025), while the self-employed pay 12.4 percent.
Total income, including interest, to the combined OASI and DI Trust Funds amounted to $1.351 trillion in 2023. ($1.233 trillion from net payroll tax contributions, $51 billion from taxation of benefits, and $67 billion in interest)[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.ssa.gov/news/press/factsheets/HowAreSocialSecurity.htm[/URL]

[U]So let me get this straight [/U]

E2008 is complaining because an individual works an entire lifetime paying into a system that is suppose to provide a lifetime benefit once they reach a certain age and he considers that to be some sort of welfare payment.

[B]Where do the Republican Racists like Musk get this stuff?[/B]

E2008 that he does not benefit from the services of the United States Government he was born into as man of privilege is hardly credible.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2999791]Or perhaps that was orginally sourced from a country that our brave USA Military liberated and converted or retained as a cherished low cost trading partner.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]In 2023, the US military spent approximately $820.3 billion, or roughly 13.3% of the entire federal budget for that fiscal year. In March 2023, the Department of Defense (DoD) requested $842.0 billion for 2024 a 2.6% increase.

With the worlds third-largest military, at nearly 1.3 million active-duty troops, the US estimates it spends more than any other nation on its national defense. [b]Between 2014 and 2022, the US spent more than twice as much on defense as did all other NATO members, 30 nations in total[/b].[/QUOTE]

Canadians hate Trump. Only Putin like to fuck him.

According to the demonstrably Winger-leaning RealClearPolitics' preferred polling services consensus, heading into Trump's Festival of Lies Celebration of his "Greatest First 100 Days Ever", the American people are recognizing it as the Worst Ever.

They are even starting to warm up to the idea of Immigrants eating the cats and eating the dogs more than the shit-show of disaster this Trump's Pandemic Part 2 the MAGAs, a few stray "Bothsider / Neithersider" Third Party voters and, specifically, that relative handful of angry Muslims who foolishly and now quite regrettably swung their less than 0. 75 percentage point of the total votes in just three swing states from Harris to Trump and thereby were the sole reason Trump is president again gave us.

[URL]https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/approval/donald-trump/approval-rating-2nd-term[/URL]

America's farmers, if any of them were among the "poorly educated" that con man Donald Trump loves for obvious reasons, are sure getting a snootful of education about Trump and his Classic Repub Horrific Economic Results and Stewardship now:

[B]Agriculture isn't nearing tariffs crisis, 'it is full blown crisis already' farmers say.
April 28, 2025[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/28/trade-war-tariffs-full-blown-crisis-us-farm-exporters-say.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]The global backlash to President Trumps tariffs is punishing U.S. agriculture, especially a decline in Chinese buying of U.S. farm products.

A leading agriculture exports group says massive losses are already racking up at farms, with cancelled orders, pricing pressure as demand slumps and layoffs, as China stops buying products from pork to hay and straw, and lumber.

No one can replace all the volume that China buys, one farm operator reported.[/QUOTE]And there is also this:

[B]Trump tariffs prompt slump in shipments to US ports.
Number of vessels scheduled to arrive at Port of Los Angeles next week is down by almost a third year on year.
April 28, 2025[/B]

[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/apr/28/trump-tariffs-shipments-us-ports[/URL]

[QUOTE]Donald Trumps increasingly erratic trade war has triggered a slump in shipments to the USs most important ports, amid the growing risk of a recession in the worlds largest economy.

In the latest sign of the US presidents tariff policies rattling the economy, figures show the number of vessels scheduled to arrive at the Port of Los Angeles next week is down by almost a third on the same period a year earlier.[/QUOTE]I would say this is not going to get much better over the next 3 years and 8 months. Not as long as lunatic Trump is in the White House. Without even those scant few somewhat "normal" Cabinet and Staffer guardrails around him this time, he has been exposed irreversibly to the World to be the pathetically clueless clown or is it the outright malignant self-loathing and life-hating arsonist he so obviously always was. Therefore, every minute of every hour of his presence on the scene engenders utter uncertainty and international economic paralysis.

I might argue it won't get demonstrably better if any Repub is in the White House going forward into the foreseeable future. Not unless a Repub candidate runs denouncing every statement, move, result and concept of a concept of a plan ever proposed or enacted by Donald Trump in his entire political career. Which is not likely to happen in any of our lifetimes.

Oh well.

But, hey, the Maistream Media clutched their pearls and demanded the big money Dem donors pull their funding of down ballot Dems because the Record-Breaking Economically Successful President Joe Biden stuttered and garbled a single point due to a verbal tick that naturally intensifies with age at that debate and Kamala Harris apparently had a laugh that annoyed some dumb Repub hillbillies.

So I suppose it's understandable why there were not more "players on the field" in the election to override that tiny handful of angry Muslims whose 0. 75 percentage point swing vote from Harris to Trump in just three swing states that became the sole single-issue and single demographic reason Trump was "given the presidency" again.

Yep. Oh well.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3000030]According to the demonstrably Winger-leaning RealClearPolitics' preferred polling services consensus, heading into Trump's Festival of Lies Celebration of his "Greatest First 100 Days Ever", the American people are recognizing it as the Worst Ever.

They are even starting to warm up to the idea of Immigrants eating the cats and eating the dogs more than the shit-show of disaster this Trump's Pandemic Part 2 the MAGAs, a few stray "Bothsider / Neithersider" Third Party voters and, specifically, that relative handful of angry Muslims who foolishly and now quite regrettably swung their less than 0. 75 percentage point of the total votes in just three swing states from Harris to Trump and thereby were the sole reason Trump is president again gave us.

[URL]https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/approval/donald-trump/approval-rating-2nd-term[/URL][/QUOTE]It hasn't been great. I am very let down. One thing this has taught me is what I care about most and everything else is such a distant second. I ll vote for who ever as long as they put money in my bank account. Biden was the biggest joke of a clown fuck asshole I have ever seen, but I could care less because real estate and the investment markets boomed under him and I made a killing. Inflation was horrible, but I suspect it was unavoidable to a degree due to covid. My investment account and real estate holdings are taking a hit and it's pissing me the fuck off and it seems like it is directly related to Trump's tariffs. I don't give a fuck about tariffs as long as real estate and stock market is up. I don't buy shit from China anyway nor do I need a fucking manufacturing job. I ll let every fucking mexican ever born into the usa and half this country can change their gender ten times over as long as my bank account goes up and I can get back to my babies south of the border LOL.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3000154]America's farmers, if any of them were among the "poorly educated" that con man Donald Trump loves for obvious reasons, are sure getting a snootful of education about Trump and his Classic Repub Horrific Economic Results and Stewardship now:

[B]Agriculture isn't nearing tariffs crisis, 'it is full blown crisis already' farmers say.
April 28, 2025[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/28/trade-war-tariffs-full-blown-crisis-us-farm-exporters-say.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

And there is also this:

[B]Trump tariffs prompt slump in shipments to US ports.
Number of vessels scheduled to arrive at Port of Los Angeles next week is down by almost a third year on year.
April 28, 2025[/B]

[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/apr/28/trump-tariffs-shipments-us-ports[/URL]

I would say this is not going to get much better over the next 3 years and 8 months. Not as long as lunatic Trump is in the White House. Without even those scant few somewhat "normal" Cabinet and Staffer guardrails around him this time, he has been exposed irreversibly to the World to be the pathetically clueless clown or is it the outright malignant self-loathing and life-hating arsonist he so obviously always was. Therefore, every minute of every hour of his presence on the scene engenders utter uncertainty and international economic paralysis.

I might argue it won't get demonstrably better if any Repub is in the White House going forward into the foreseeable future. Not unless a Repub candidate runs denouncing every statement, move, result and concept of a concept of a plan ever proposed or enacted by Donald Trump in his entire political career. Which is not likely to happen in any of our lifetimes.

Oh well.

But, hey, the Maistream Media clutched their pearls and demanded the big money Dem donors pull their funding of down ballot Dems because the Record-Breaking Economically Successful President Joe Biden stuttered and garbled a single point due to a verbal tick that naturally intensifies with age at that debate and Kamala Harris apparently had a laugh that annoyed some dumb Repub hillbillies.

So I suppose it's understandable why there were not more "players on the field" in the election to override that tiny handful of angry Muslims whose 0. 75 percentage point swing vote from Harris to Trump in just three swing states that became the sole single-issue and single demographic reason Trump was "given the presidency" again.

Yep. Oh well.[/QUOTE]In 2021, the only way I could travel was if I got dangerous and worthless vaccines. The stores often did not have supplies. When I went abroad, thanks to Biden, I had to pay for a $100 test and have someone jab a Q-tip in my nose. Of course, that was if I went on an airplane. If I walked or drove across the border, the $100 Q-tip jab was not necessary and neither was a vaccine card. According to Biden, the vaccine could only travel in airplanes and oh yeah, if you got the vaccine, you would not get Covid.

And despite these absolutely bird brained policies, Biden actually polled well with his approval ratings. Covid was whisked away not with a bang but a whimper. This so called deadly virus was replaced with the next threat to mankind, Vladimir Putin.

So you can say how much better Biden is than Trump but I will take 2025 over 2021 any day. If you looked at the USA and now and preCovid, I bet you could not tell the difference.

For those of us in the workplace, people can breathe again. The ESG, DEI, white supremacy, disinformation bullshit is gone. Joe Rogan had a doctor on his show who was critical about vaccines and there was disagreement with what she said which is fine but there was no talk of the deplatforming bullshit.

When people talk of the economy being bad, they mean the stock market. Ah yes, like the market has never been wrong. Yes, the Targets and Walmarts are freaking out. The ships are slowing down. No shit. There is going to be an adjustment. I think you and the market are completely misguided on tariffs though. What do you think the tariff rates were on most Chinese packages before? Would you believe zero?

[URL]https://www.npr.org/2025/02/05/g-s1-46670/de-minimis-trade-china-temu-shein-trump[/URL]

De minimis shipments account for most of the cargo entering the USA, Customs and Border Protection said last fall. The agency said it was handling some 4 million de minimis shipments every day a rate that would blow past the previous year's mark of more than 1 billion shipments.

De minimis shipments "often don't have as much documentation, making it easier to get the shipments into the United States, whether we're talking about unsafe consumer products or fentanyl or food items that aren't permitted to be imported," Murray said.

Items imported under the exemption "are free of duty and taxes and are subject to expedited clearance processing," the USA International Trade Commission notes.

Backers of the existing de minimis structure say it eases commerce and gives consumers low prices; critics say it is used to hawk "cheap crap," as one lawmaker put it, and gives foreign companies an unfair advantage over domestic retailers.

And now the real kicker: Even before Trump was sworn in last month, de minimis was being targeted for change. The Biden administration proposed a new rule last fall to close the loophole. And USA Agencies and politicians have said the law is prone to abuse, from unscrupulous retailers falsely labeling expensive items as costing under $800 to criminals shipping illegal drugs under the guise of innocuous goods.

So while we see stories about the docks being empty, and dock workers doing nothing but waiting for ships, customs is overwhelmed logging in packages that previously were zipped through. I can see the labor force transition from receiving packages to inspecting them. That is what happens with change.

In the mean time, Together, Temu and Shein accounted for about 17% of the USA Discount market in 2023 for items such as consumer goods, fast fashion, and toys, according to a report on de minimis policies that the Congressional Research Service (CRS) updated last week.

It is fucking crazy that this was allowed to happen. I am supposed to cry because these cheap goods made at slave wages are not coming through?

So in the end, Biden considered doing tariffs but Trump actually did them. So what would you Democratic douches have done differently than Trump? Well, we know. You Democratic douches and Biden did nothing. Your only plan was and is to gripe about Trump.

The democratic complainers posting among us need to realize that saying the Republic Racists are not good for us is not going to cut it.

Spending more time on dick politics instead of the basic economic policies that will help regular men and women of the Dis-United States of America put meat in the pot of the kitchens of those who do NOT own stocks (or BONDS) for that matter.

If the democrats are just going to pick a candidate to run for the presidency of the Dis-United States of America they should at least pick a decent one.

One that does not ignore the Crypto Industry or talk wack tax policies like taxing [I]unrealized gains[/I].

Until the democratic complainers among us do something more than complain, until they fix their own party platform, until they choose viable candidates for office of the presidency of the Dis-United States of America they will continue to lose by small margins because they do not realize that the country is divided and they need to fight for every vote.

[B]Crypto[/B]

Democrats ignore us in the future a their own risk!

Gold continues to be on a tear. This is actually a bad time to be buying gold as a major correction is on the horizon.

What I do is speak about all aspects of a investment. Not just my view. Buy BONDS E2008 says. But he fails to point out that if the entity that issued those BONDS fail you lose EVERYTHING!

[B]Gold[/B] if you hold it physically has held it's value adjusted for inflation over 5000 years. If there is a major reset (and there will be if the Dis-United States of America does not get it's act together) if all of your wealth is wiped out because the US Dollar goes to zero or hyper-inflates, I feel comfortable knowing I have something that I can use in the restart of the world economy.

I'm so tired of all the winning though. I know my brokerage account is tired of it. Everything is deep in the red. Can we stop winning now please? Just for once, I'd like to see my NVDA and AAPL positions be green please. Thank you.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3000154]America's farmers, if any of them were among the "poorly educated" that con man Donald Trump loves for obvious reasons, are sure getting a snootful of education about Trump and his Classic Repub Horrific Economic Results and Stewardship now:

[B]Agriculture isn't nearing tariffs crisis, 'it is full blown crisis already' farmers say.
April 28, 2025[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/28/trade-war-tariffs-full-blown-crisis-us-farm-exporters-say.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

And there is also this:

[B]Trump tariffs prompt slump in shipments to US ports.
Number of vessels scheduled to arrive at Port of Los Angeles next week is down by almost a third year on year.
April 28, 2025[/B]

[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/apr/28/trump-tariffs-shipments-us-ports[/URL]

I would say this is not going to get much better over the next 3 years and 8 months. Not as long as lunatic Trump is in the White House. Without even those scant few somewhat "normal" Cabinet and Staffer guardrails around him this time, he has been exposed irreversibly to the World to be the pathetically clueless clown or is it the outright malignant self-loathing and life-hating arsonist he so obviously always was. Therefore, every minute of every hour of his presence on the scene engenders utter uncertainty and international economic paralysis.

I might argue it won't get demonstrably better if any Repub is in the White House going forward into the foreseeable future. Not unless a Repub candidate runs denouncing every statement, move, result and concept of a concept of a plan ever proposed or enacted by Donald Trump in his entire political career. Which is not likely to happen in any of our lifetimes.

Oh well.

But, hey, the Maistream Media clutched their pearls and demanded the big money Dem donors pull their funding of down ballot Dems because the Record-Breaking Economically Successful President Joe Biden stuttered and garbled a single point due to a verbal tick that naturally intensifies with age at that debate and Kamala Harris apparently had a laugh that annoyed some dumb Repub hillbillies.

So I suppose it's understandable why there were not more "players on the field" in the election to override that tiny handful of angry Muslims whose 0. 75 percentage point swing vote from Harris to Trump in just three swing states that became the sole single-issue and single demographic reason Trump was "given the presidency" again.

Yep. Oh well.[/QUOTE]You can dump that toxic made in CCPland / Korean / VietCong trash in the ocean (and just cut out the middle men) or sell it at Walmart Amazon we then dump it straight into our overflowing landfills with it after 1 usage.

I have a better idea stop destroying the planet and just stop producing that worthless trash and sending it out way!

[URL]https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3305834/chinese-exporters-said-be-ditching-shipments-mid-voyage-avoid-crushing-trump-tariffs[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3000206]In 2021, the only way I could travel was if I got dangerous and worthless vaccines. The stores often did not have supplies. When I went abroad, thanks to Biden, I had to pay for a $100 test and have someone jab a Q-tip in my nose. Of course, that was if I went on an airplane. If I walked or drove across the border, the $100 Q-tip jab was not necessary and neither was a vaccine card. According to Biden, the vaccine could only travel in airplanes and oh yeah, if you got the vaccine, you would not get Covid.

And despite these absolutely bird brained policies, Biden actually polled well with his approval ratings. Covid was whisked away not with a bang but a whimper. This so called deadly virus was replaced with the next threat to mankind, Vladimir Putin.

So you can say how much better Biden is than Trump but I will take 2025 over 2021 any day. If you looked at the USA and now and preCovid, I bet you could not tell the difference.

For those of us in the workplace, people can breathe again. The ESG, DEI, white supremacy, disinformation bullshit is gone. Joe Rogan had a doctor on his show who was critical about vaccines and there was disagreement with what she said which is fine but there was no talk of the deplatforming bullshit.

When people talk of the economy being bad, they mean the stock market. Ah yes, like the market has never been wrong. Yes, the Targets and Walmarts are freaking out. The ships are slowing down. No shit. There is going to be an adjustment. I think you and the market are completely misguided on tariffs though. What do you think the tariff rates were on most Chinese packages before? Would you believe zero?

[URL]https://www.npr.org/2025/02/05/g-s1-46670/de-minimis-trade-china-temu-shein-trump[/URL]

De minimis shipments account for most of the cargo entering the USA, Customs and Border Protection said last fall. The agency said it was handling some 4 million de minimis shipments every day a rate that would blow past the previous year's mark of more than 1 billion shipments.

De minimis shipments "often don't have as much documentation, making it easier to get the shipments into the United States, whether we're talking about unsafe consumer products or fentanyl or food items that aren't permitted to be imported," Murray said.

Items imported under the exemption "are free of duty and taxes and are subject to expedited clearance processing," the USA International Trade Commission notes.

Backers of the existing de minimis structure say it eases commerce and gives consumers low prices; critics say it is used to hawk "cheap crap," as one lawmaker put it, and gives foreign companies an unfair advantage over domestic retailers.

And now the real kicker: Even before Trump was sworn in last month, de minimis was being targeted for change. The Biden administration proposed a new rule last fall to close the loophole. And USA Agencies and politicians have said the law is prone to abuse, from unscrupulous retailers falsely labeling expensive items as costing under $800 to criminals shipping illegal drugs under the guise of innocuous goods.

So while we see stories about the docks being empty, and dock workers doing nothing but waiting for ships, customs is overwhelmed logging in packages that previously were zipped through. I can see the labor force transition from receiving packages to inspecting them. That is what happens with change.

In the mean time, Together, Temu and Shein accounted for about 17% of the USA Discount market in 2023 for items such as consumer goods, fast fashion, and toys, according to a report on de minimis policies that the Congressional Research Service (CRS) updated last week.

It is fucking crazy that this was allowed to happen. I am supposed to cry because these cheap goods made at slave wages are not coming through?

So in the end, Biden considered doing tariffs but Trump actually did them. So what would you Democratic douches have done differently than Trump? Well, we know. You Democratic douches and Biden did nothing. Your only plan was and is to gripe about Trump.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdNO7n3Lp-4[/URL]*Nice try James but you can't hide what you ANTI white scumbags really stand for!!

[URL]https://www.wsj.com/opinion/california-keeps-declining-and-newsom-tries-to-blame-trump-tariffs-democratic-governance-policy-d3e988c5[/URL]

[URL]https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-fentanyl-pipeline-and-chinas-role-in-the-us-opioid-crisis/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0366[/URL](19) 30218-4/ fulltext.

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-denounces-trump-tariff-fentanyl-is-americas-problem-2025-02-02/[/URL]

Try finding fentanyl in CCPland or see what they would do if they caught you selling it (probably execute you and your whole family on live TV that same night).

If what they are doing isn't an ACT OF WAR what is?

Just nuke them off the map and be done with the savages already!!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3000206]In 2021, the only way I could travel was if I got dangerous and worthless vaccines. The stores often did not have supplies. When I went abroad, thanks to Biden, I had to pay for a $100 test and have someone jab a Q-tip in my nose. Of course, that was if I went on an airplane. If I walked or drove across the border, the $100 Q-tip jab was not necessary and neither was a vaccine card. According to Biden, the vaccine could only travel in airplanes and oh yeah, if you got the vaccine, you would not get Covid.

And despite these absolutely bird brained policies, Biden actually polled well with his approval ratings. Covid was whisked away not with a bang but a whimper. This so called deadly virus was replaced with the next threat to mankind, Vladimir Putin.

So you can say how much better Biden is than Trump but I will take 2025 over 2021 any day. If you looked at the USA and now and preCovid, I bet you could not tell the difference.

For those of us in the workplace, people can breathe again. The ESG, DEI, white supremacy, disinformation bullshit is gone. Joe Rogan had a doctor on his show who was critical about vaccines and there was disagreement with what she said which is fine but there was no talk of the deplatforming bullshit.

When people talk of the economy being bad, they mean the stock market. Ah yes, like the market has never been wrong. Yes, the Targets and Walmarts are freaking out. The ships are slowing down. No shit. There is going to be an adjustment. I think you and the market are completely misguided on tariffs though. What do you think the tariff rates were on most Chinese packages before? Would you believe zero?

[URL]https://www.npr.org/2025/02/05/g-s1-46670/de-minimis-trade-china-temu-shein-trump[/URL]

De minimis shipments account for most of the cargo entering the USA, Customs and Border Protection said last fall. The agency said it was handling some 4 million de minimis shipments every day a rate that would blow past the previous year's mark of more than 1 billion shipments.

De minimis shipments "often don't have as much documentation, making it easier to get the shipments into the United States, whether we're talking about unsafe consumer products or fentanyl or food items that aren't permitted to be imported," Murray said.

Items imported under the exemption "are free of duty and taxes and are subject to expedited clearance processing," the USA International Trade Commission notes.

Backers of the existing de minimis structure say it eases commerce and gives consumers low prices; critics say it is used to hawk "cheap crap," as one lawmaker put it, and gives foreign companies an unfair advantage over domestic retailers.

And now the real kicker: Even before Trump was sworn in last month, de minimis was being targeted for change. The Biden administration proposed a new rule last fall to close the loophole. And USA Agencies and politicians have said the law is prone to abuse, from unscrupulous retailers falsely labeling expensive items as costing under $800 to criminals shipping illegal drugs under the guise of innocuous goods.

So while we see stories about the docks being empty, and dock workers doing nothing but waiting for ships, customs is overwhelmed logging in packages that previously were zipped through. I can see the labor force transition from receiving packages to inspecting them. That is what happens with change.

In the mean time, Together, Temu and Shein accounted for about 17% of the USA Discount market in 2023 for items such as consumer goods, fast fashion, and toys, according to a report on de minimis policies that the Congressional Research Service (CRS) updated last week.

It is fucking crazy that this was allowed to happen. I am supposed to cry because these cheap goods made at slave wages are not coming through?

So in the end, Biden considered doing tariffs but Trump actually did them. So what would you Democratic douches have done differently than Trump? Well, we know. You Democratic douches and Biden did nothing. Your only plan was and is to gripe about Trump.[/QUOTE]Spoiler Alert: There is no mention of the USA Stock Market in this unavoidably glowing report on that first year of Bidenomics' Historic Recovery from Trump's Pandemic:

[B]The 2021 U.S. Economy in Ten Charts.
Feb. 24, 2022[/B]

[URL]https://www.crfb.org/blogs/2021-us-economy-ten-charts[/URL]

[QUOTE][b]Strong Output Growth[/b]

After shrinking by a massive 9.5 percent in the second quarter of 2020, the economy has now recovered to its pre-pandemic trend. Real Gross Domestic Product (GDP) grew by 8.7 percent in the second half of 2020 and 5.5 percent in 2021. By the end of last year, real GDP was just 0.4 percent from CBOs pre-pandemic projection.
..........
[B]Inflation[/b]

While economic growth in 2021 was strong, so too was inflation. Normally, the Federal Reserve targets 2 percent growth in Personal Consumption Expenditures (PCE) inflation and slightly higher Consumer Price Index (CPI) inflation. In 2021, PCE inflation totaled 5.5 percent and CPI inflation totaled 6.7 percent on a fourth quarter-over-fourth quarter basis. That includes a 0.5 percent monthly increase in December alone.
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[B]Personal Income Hit a New Record[/b]

Disposable Personal Income (DPI) in 2021 totaled $18.5 trillion 14 percent or $2.3 trillion higher than the 2019 level of $16.2 trillion. Total DPI for 2020 and 2021 was more than $4 trillion above the prior two years. The majority of this income growth was the result of COVID-relief measures such as recovery rebates and expanded unemployment benefits.

Recovery rebates, unemployment benefits, and other COVID relief responsible for this income boost mostly faded by the end of 2021. However, they were replaced by rising market income. As a result, total personal income in December remained 8.4 percent above pre-pandemic levels, which means it grew faster than either the prior trend or the elevated rate of inflation over that period.
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[B]Employment Continues to Recover[/b]

In April 2020, the unemployment rate reached 14.7 percent the highest in modern history. Since then, unemployment has come down rapidly, declining to 3.9 percent by the end of 2021, the lowest since the start of the pandemic. The unemployment rate has only been that low twice in the last 50 years - in the year 2000 and for most of the two-year period before the pandemic.
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[B]State & Local Governments are Flush With Cash[/b]

Over the course of the pandemic, policymakers authorized nearly $900 billion of aid to state and local governments. It is not clear this much aid was needed. State revenue and receipts, inclusive of federal aid, ended 2021 up 21 percent from the end of 2019. Even excluding federal aid, revenue and receipts were up 14 percent.[/QUOTE]Now, before we enthusiastically choose the economy of 2025 over that of 2021, how about we wait for the final numbers in this first year of Trump's Colossal Botch of the Envy of the World Economy that Biden handed Trump barely 100 days ago.

USA can t say they didn t know for crazy Trump, but they need to buy a brain, to be able to think. When I support Ukrainians, when I wish a country for Palestinians, I wish failure they deserve to USA. Then, maybe they will understand what they became.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3000289]USA can t say they didn t know for crazy Trump, but they need to buy a brain, to be able to think. When I support Ukrainians, when I wish a country for Palestinians, I wish failure they deserve to USA. Then, maybe they will understand what they became.[/QUOTE]They already are a Failure.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3000237]You can dump that toxic made in CCPland / Korean / VietCong trash in the ocean (and just cut out the middle men) or sell it at Walmart Amazon we then dump it straight into our overflowing landfills with it after 1 usage.

I have a better idea stop destroying the planet and just stop producing that worthless trash and sending it out way!

[URL]https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3305834/chinese-exporters-said-be-ditching-shipments-mid-voyage-avoid-crushing-trump-tariffs[/URL][/QUOTE]The reason American farmers were choking on a big, hot, steaming Trump Turd in 2018,2019 and are choking on an even bigger, hotter, steamier one today has nothing to do with the cheap, Chinese goods imported into America because MAGA Walmart shoppers want, love and need those products and demand that they be cheap. It is because the Chinese were then and are now perfectly happy NOT buying agriculture from American farmers during these disastrous Trump Turd Tariff Tax Increases on the American Consumer Failed Trade Wars.

American Farmers suffered then and are now going bankrupt thanks to "smart businessman and salesman" Donald J. Trump driving away critically important customers for their goods.

How many soy beans do you think Americans can eat every day in order to replace the American farmers' global customers your boy is driving away like customers fleeing from Trump Steaks, Trump Water, Trump Airlines, Trump's Atlantic City Casino, etc, etc, etc?

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3000289]USA can t say they didn t know for crazy Trump, but they need to buy a brain, to be able to think. When I support Ukrainians, when I wish a country for Palestinians, I wish failure they deserve to USA. Then, maybe they will understand what they became.[/QUOTE]I wish for the French leader to check and see if he has a pair to back up his tough talk. Otherwise they will just get run over by Putin and be calling for Uncle to come liberated their asses once again!

[QUOTE]For those of us in the workplace, people can breathe again. The ESG, DEI, white supremacy, disinformation bullshit is gone. Joe Rogan had a doctor on his show who was critical about vaccines and there was disagreement with what she said which is fine but there was no talk of the deplatforming bullshit.[/QUOTE][B]Translation[/B]: Republican Racists can say nigger again without getting fired.

[QUOTE]It is fucking crazy that this was allowed to happen. I am supposed to cry because these cheap goods made at slave wages are not coming through?[/QUOTE]My lazy ass fellow Americans do not want to work in textile plants, manufacturing or meat packing plants. I am surprised to hear a Republican Racist have a problem with the wages others make. Right now in the Dis-United States of American does not pay a livable wage at the minimum level.

[QUOTE]When people talk of the economy being bad, they mean the stock market.[/QUOTE]Damn straight mother funk. What do you think that stock prices are loosely based on? I know you are a BUY BOND man but have you ever heard of an earnings call? When earnings go down that means the economy is down. Stop with your bullshit that that Stock Market has nothing to do with the economy. Because without the willingness to pay for future earning there is no stock market. Growth of earnings is what people are looking for. Unless they are value investors in which they are looking for discounts on assets others will buy for an increased value in the future. Then there are dividend investors. They also need earnings. That is what companies use to pay the dividends in the first place.

[U]Why do Republican Racists want to tax food?[/U]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2999531][b]While you are so impressed with yourself, all I see is some narcissistic loser posting worthless my dick is bigger than yours bullshit.[/b][/QUOTE]Your fellow American has a working knowledge of how economics of the Dis-United States of America works. This fucks you up E2008 because you think all of your fellow Americans who look like me a dumb and you have dick envy for some reason. High priced Colombian prostitutes want to know how much money you are going to spend on them, not what you packing down there (size or color).

[B]ROTFLMAO[/B]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3000379]The reason American farmers were choking on a big, hot, steaming Trump Turd in 2018,2019 and are choking on an even bigger, hotter, steamier one today has nothing to do with the cheap, Chinese goods imported into America because MAGA Walmart shoppers want, love and need those products and demand that they be cheap. It is because the Chinese were then and are now perfectly happy NOT buying agriculture from American farmers during these disastrous Trump Turd Tariff Tax Increases on the American Consumer Failed Trade Wars.

American Farmers suffered then and are now going bankrupt thanks to "smart businessman and salesman" Donald J. Trump driving away critically important customers for their goods.

How many soy beans do you think Americans can eat every day in order to replace the American farmers' global customers your boy is driving away like customers fleeing from Trump Steaks, Trump Water, Trump Airlines, Trump's Atlantic City Casino, etc, etc, etc?[/QUOTE]I've been all over the world I've never met anyone that proclaims their love and / or gratitude for the cheap toxic products Asia produces with slave labor that floods every countries markets.

I don't know anyone that Thanks God for their Worthless CCP / Asia TV / electronics or anything they spew out so cheaply via slave factories.

Do you remember all the Foxconn suicides of slaves jumping off the roofs of their slave plantations, what was their response? They installed nets, so they could catch them.

And send them right back to the line ASAP I'm sure not w / o docking a few pennies from them for any time they wasted trying to kill themselves.

And US farmers will be just fine, we don't need that market, just grow something else and sell to someone else. BTW what will CCPland eat?

Maybe they can feed them the trash the container carriers are dumping overboard to dodge Our Lord and Saviors Tariffs.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3000379]The reason American farmers were choking on a big, hot, steaming Trump Turd in 2018,2019 and are choking on an even bigger, hotter, steamier one today has nothing to do with the cheap, Chinese goods imported into America because MAGA Walmart shoppers want, love and need those products and demand that they be cheap. It is because the Chinese were then and are now perfectly happy NOT buying agriculture from American farmers during these disastrous Trump Turd Tariff Tax Increases on the American Consumer Failed Trade Wars.

American Farmers suffered then and are now going bankrupt thanks to "smart businessman and salesman" Donald J. Trump driving away critically important customers for their goods.

How many soy beans do you think Americans can eat every day in order to replace the American farmers' global customers your boy is driving away like customers fleeing from Trump Steaks, Trump Water, Trump Airlines, Trump's Atlantic City Casino, etc, etc, etc?[/QUOTE]EihTooms,

I swear these Republican Racists be showing their pure ignorance in each and every post they make.

Here is some back up:

[QUOTE]WASHINGTON, DC, US China has not placed an order for US corn and soybeans since Jan. 16, four days before the inauguration of US President Donald Trump, Nikkei Asia reported, citing data from the US Department of Agriculture (USDA).[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.world-grain.com/articles/21302-report-china-halts-us-corn-soybean-orders[/URL]

[B]I feel for my fellow Americans who are farmers![/B]

[URL]https://youtu.be/o1u5R5HJNwg?si=br6EZDhekFK2XZPM[/URL]

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3000403]I wish for the French leader to check and see if he has a pair to back up his tough talk. Otherwise they will just get run over by Putin and be calling for Uncle to come liberated their asses once again![/QUOTE]Keep on living in past with your old, so senile stupid shameful leader and his gang. Everybody knows now Russian army is weak, not able to defeat only courageous Ukrainians after more than 3 years. USA fell for economics and need war business, trying to rob Ukrainians. EU and China are stronger than USA for economics, for now reality. Keep on sucking crazy Putin who makes fun of your old senile who forgot what he told on 2018 about Crimea. The Niagara fall rather than MAGA. Macron is right to support Ukraine and a country for Palestinians, for freedom and human rights, when your senile stupid tell about a beach resort. Remember also La Fayette.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3000494]I've been all over the world I've never met anyone that proclaims their love and / or gratitude for the cheap toxic products Asia produces with slave labor that floods every countries markets.

I don't know anyone that Thanks God for their Worthless CCP / Asia TV / electronics or anything they spew out so cheaply via slave factories.

Do you remember all the Foxconn suicides of slaves jumping off the roofs of their slave plantations, what was their response? They installed nets, so they could catch them.

And send them right back to the line ASAP I'm sure not w / o docking a few pennies from them for any time they wasted trying to kill themselves.

And US farmers will be just fine, we don't need that market, just grow something else and sell to someone else. BTW what will CCPland eat?

Maybe they can feed them the trash the container carriers are dumping overboard to dodge Our Lord and Saviors Tariffs.[/QUOTE]Don t You need eggs? I love french chickens fresh eggs and Salers cows meat. People who can taste this meat knows what is pleasure. Same like with a beautiful, full natural, sweet GFE woman.

[U]65" Television Haier[/U]

Best value in the Store. I purchased it. It is hangin on my wall as I write this.

Don't know where the brand was made. Don't care what my fellow Americans that are Republican Racists think of where I live or what I purchase. Why?

[U]The Declaration of Independence[/U]

[B]Read what is says up in dat ***** mother fucks![/B]

[QUOTE]We hold these truths to be self-evident, [u]that all men are created equal[/u], that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness[/QUOTE]On of the things that gives me happiness is golf. I have been working on my golf swing.

[B]The Defense Rests![/B]

56% Americans feel shameful about Trump, I find it s not much, 44% thinking this crazy is good image for them, when many boycott now USA for tourism, products. USA, say thank You Trump for your fall.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3000546]Keep on living in past with your old, so senile stupid shameful leader and his gang.[/QUOTE]News flash for you mother fuck. The ENTIRE world lives with the POTUS until he leaves office.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3000546]Everybody knows now Russian army is weak, not able to defeat only courageous Ukrainians after more than 3 years. [/QUOTE]All they need is some help from the mighty French Army. Why hasn't you tough talking French Leader put [I]boots on the ground[/I] yet, to help the Ukrainians?

[QUOTE]Emmanuel Macron, the leader of France, has made a notable statement about the country's potential for reform, saying, "I dont believe that France is capable of reform at least not in normal times. Fortunately, we are experiencing exceptional circumstances at the moment. It is a moment in which everything is possible." [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3000547]Don t You need eggs? I love french chickens fresh eggs and Salers cows meat. People who can taste this meat knows what is pleasure. Same like with a beautiful, full natural, sweet GFE woman.[/QUOTE]You should eat more American chicken. It's delicious- they have a national dish called Chicken a la chlorine, which reminds me of swimming pools and leisure centres, happy days. Of course the additives and hormones they inject it with may make you grow another head one day but that's a small sacrifice to make for the deliciousness. It's cheap too. I remember eating some frozen chicken dish from Walmart when I was a student. If you cut up the nugget, it looked like it was made from cardboard, but the point was it was cheap. I personally don't care that the chicken lived its miserable short life suffering if it makes it cheap enough for me, and judging by the size of many Americans, they don't either. They have every right to protest that Europeans don't consume their delicious Chicken a la chlorine because it is Anti American and unfair.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3000626]News flash for you mother fuck. The ENTIRE world lives with the POTUS until he leaves office.

All they need is some help from the mighty French Army. Why hasn't you tough talking French Leader put [I]boots on the ground[/I] yet, to help the Ukrainians?[/QUOTE]So stupid and senile Trump makes USA so ridiculous in front of our world, except criminal Netanhyaou, when criminal Putin also makes fun of him.

[QUOTE=HotDog666;3000641]You should eat more American chicken. It's delicious- they have a national dish called Chicken a la chlorine, which reminds me of swimming pools and leisure centres, happy days. Of course the additives and hormones they inject it with may make you grow another head one day but that's a small sacrifice to make for the deliciousness. It's cheap too. I remember eating some frozen chicken dish from Walmart when I was a student. If you cut up the nugget, it looked like it was made from cardboard, but the point was it was cheap. I personally don't care that the chicken lived its miserable short life suffering if it makes it cheap enough for me, and judging by the size of many Americans, they don't either. They have every right to protest that Europeans don't consume their delicious Chicken a la chlorine because it is Anti American and unfair.[/QUOTE]Yes, stupid Trump crying we don't buy shit American foods, when we don't want to be obese like him, nor with senile neurons. USA are not high quality and for sure, Trump won't improve them.

[U]I have a question for the European Dis-Union members posting up in here[/U]

If you don't like American Food, if you don't like American Cars, if you don't like American Politics.

[B]Why in the fuck do you care about tariffs and NATO? [/B]

Produce your own food, drive your own cars, do your own political thing and prepare to defend yourselves on your own without anyone coming to rescue you again like was done in the past.

Pretty simple, eh?

[B]ROTFLMAO! [/B]

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3000592]56% Americans feel shameful about Trump, I find it s not much, 44% thinking this crazy is good image for them, when many boycott now USA for tourism, products. USA, say thank You Trump for your fall.[/QUOTE]17% citizens think about leaving USA because of Trump. Such a MAGA fall. Fall is keeping on for Tesla.

[B]FBI reassigns agents from iconic photo of them kneeling during George Floyd protest[/B]

[QUOTE]The Federal Bureau of Investigation has reassigned several agents who were photographed kneeling with demonstrators during a 2020 protest in the wake of police killing of George Floyd, people briefed on the matter told CNN.

The reassignments, viewed as demotions by many inside the FBI, come nearly five years after the episode that ignited controversy inside the bureau. FBI officials offered no explanation for changing the roles to less coveted positions for the agents, according to sources.[/QUOTE][URL]https://edition.cnn.com/2025/04/30/politics/fbi-agents-blm-protest/index.html[/URL]

These agents were assigned to do a job they were not trained for. Out numbered, they managed to de-escalate a potentially violent situation using some very unique out of the box thinking. They are being punished for it.

[B]Republican Racists at work yet again in an effort to make the Dis-United States of America WHITE again![/B]

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[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3000729]You are a fascinating poster Subboicumman. I have always been intrigued by sociopath narcissists like yourself. Whats it like to have demons eat away at all you all day because you don't get enough attention? What it like to need attention so bad you have to constantly spew false claims of racism to get it? I appreciate how you go so over the top with your racist republican rants that it makes it clear to any reader you don't play with a full deck of cards and therefore there is no reason to take offense. I truly pity your soul my brother. Hope you get the help you need.

P.S. Did a certain event trigger your narcism or do you think you were born with it? I really am curious to know.[/QUOTE]Given your rabid [B]ad hominem[/B] attack you must be a Republic Racist. Instead of attacking me defend the policies of your party.

No one should be offended by the truth. If I have posted lies they you quote them RamDavidson84.

As for you layman's evaluation of my personality characteristics you must have a severe reading comprehension problem. I've said it once, I will say it again and I will keep saying it until you understand it. I do care what you think of me, what names you call me, what you think of where I live or what I do.

You are I are exactly alike. We are both [B]International Tricks[/B]! So even if you think you a better than me because you won the birth lottery and your mother pushed you out of her vagina in a country that gave your immediate privilege upon birth, you are doing the same socially unapproved activities as I am.

Remember, when you point your finger at me, three are pointed back at you. That is the nature of how Republican Racist work.

[B]Do you have anything to add to the discussion of [u]American Politics[/u] or will you simply continue your [i]ad hominem[/i] against me personally?[/B]

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2999721]The federal government also transfers general revenues to the Highway Trust Fund when necessary to cover funding shortfalls.

However, this is not a direct allocation from federal income tax revenues but rather from general government funds, which include various sources of revenue. [/QUOTE]
Splitting hairs over the accounting in gov't coffers, for the sake of this argument, is a fools errand. Gov't General Funds, is all fungible money!

The gov't aid/assistance or transfer, is not done, [b]"...when necessary"[/b] as you put it, but is a never ending $275+ billion dollar, eye-watering funding of the HTF, since 2008.
[LIST][i]"Due to spending being enacted at unsustainable rates for decades, the HTF has repeatedly faced potential sudden and significant spending reductions which could eventually be felt at the state level in the form of lower reimbursements from the federal government. Moreover, since 2008, Congress has approved a total of [b]$275 billion in general fund transfers from the Treasury to the HTF[/b]". [/i]

[URL]https://budget.house.gov/imo/media/doc/the_baseline_and_trust_funds.pdf[/URL][/LIST]The HTF by all accounts is bankrupt and has never had enough to fund the pipeline of projects, around the country. The HTF funded by "user fees" and "user taxes", is a fiscal illusion.

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2999721]FEMA was used to pay for housing for illegals, and I have never used their services.

I never used any ATF service, and I do not know why they even exist, and I have never used any service of the USA Marshall service.

Since the DEA was formed, drugs are more available, more potent, and cheaper than ever. I have never used any of their services and wish they did not exist.

The FBI launched a coup against the president I voted for. I have never used their services either.

How come you did not mention the TSA? Because those are people who have harassed citizens and have been proven to do no good at all? If you include being harassed by a government agency, then yes, you could say I have paid the TSA to harass me. Are you proud of yourself? LOL. ICE allowed millions of illegals in under Biden. My only experience with them is they are part of the same harassment group as the TSA. [/QUOTE] [i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i] You must live a very sheltered life, not to have used, benefited from directly or indirectly from ATF, DEA, FBI, ICE, U.S. Marshall, ICE and FEMA/U.S. Fire Administration.

You know the hardest part of answering an Elvis 2008 post, is wading through all that toxic American Fuhrer like, MAGA Gish Gallop, meant to obfuscate the FACTS, spin the truth and spread dis/misinformation. I had to go back and take another GOOD LOOK at your posts surrounding your lame, uneducated MAGA wise guy diatribe about, [i][b]"Two out of every three paid tax dollars does not go to any government service whatsoever",[/b][/i] and here's what I found:

Time and time again, in all of those posts, they highlighted, your inability, ineptitude or stubbornness, to clearly understand:[LIST] The role of good governance, government and taxation, towards forming and benefiting a well-run functioning democratic civilized society, is crucial to building and maintaining the kind of society we all want to live in.[/LIST]Hey, if paying no taxes is YOUR THING, may I suggest Somalia, Afghanistan, Monaco or Cayman Islands (for no "income tax" for the Paycheck Superheroes, like yourself), and let's not forget those failed states like Yemen and South Sudan.

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2999721]I will take my lemonade for free now, mo fo. You still got nothing.[/QUOTE]Not to worry, dude, I'm sure the 5th grade kids on your block, have that special brew of free "lemonade", for dumbasses on their block.

Drink UP that free "lemonade", now, ya hear boy! [i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2999721]The federal government also transfers general revenues to the Highway Trust Fund when necessary to cover funding shortfalls.

However, this is not a direct allocation from federal income tax revenues but rather from general government funds, which include various sources of revenue. [/QUOTE]Splitting hairs over the accounting in gov't coffers, for the sake of this argument, is a fools errand. Gov't General Funds, is all fungible money!

This gov't aid / assistance or transfer, is not some [B]"when necessary"[/B] as you put it, but a never ending $275+ billion dollar, propping-up of gov't assistance, of funding the HTF, since 2008.
[LIST]"Due to spending being enacted at unsustainable rates for decades, the HTF has repeatedly faced potential sudden and significant spending reductions which could eventually be felt at the state level in the form of lower reimbursements from the federal government. Moreover, since 2008, Congress has approved a total of [b]$275 billion in general fund transfers from the Treasury to the HTF[/b]".

[URL]https://budget.house.gov/imo/media/doc/the_baseline_and_trust_funds.pdf[/URL][/LIST]
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2999721]FEMA was used to pay for housing for illegals, and I have never used their services.

I never used any ATF service, and I do not know why they even exist, and I have never used any service of the USA Marshall service.

Since the DEA was formed, drugs are more available, more potent, and cheaper than ever. I have never used any of their services and wish they did not exist.

The FBI launched a coup against the president I voted for. I have never used their services either.

How come you did not mention the TSA? Because those are people who have harassed citizens and have been proven to do no good at all? If you include being harassed by a government agency, then yes, you could say I have paid the TSA to harass me. Are you proud of yourself? LOL. ICE allowed millions of illegals in under Biden. My only experience with them is they are part of the same harassment group as the TSA. [/QUOTE][I][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/I] You must live a very sheltered life, not to have used, benefited from directly or indirectly from ATF, DEA, FBI, ICE, USA Marshall, ICE and FEMA / USA Fire Administration.

You know the hardest part of answering an Elvis 2008 post, is wading through all that toxic American Fuhrer like, MAGA Gish Gallop, meant to obfuscate the FACTS, spin the truth and spread dis / misinformation. I had to go back and take another GOOD LOOK at your posts surrounding your lame, uneducated MAGA wise guy diatribe about, [I][b]"Two out of every three paid tax dollars does not go to any government service whatsoever",[/b][/I] and here's what I found:

Time and time again, in all of those posts, they highlighted, your inability, ineptitude or stubbornness, to clearly understand:
[LIST] The role of good governance, government and taxation, towards forming and benefiting a well-run functioning democratic civilized society, is crucial to building and maintaining the kind of society we all want to live in.[/LIST]Hey, if paying no taxes is YOUR THING, may I suggest Somalia, Afghanistan, Monaco or Cayman Islands (for no "income tax" for the Paycheck Superheroes, like yourself), and let's not forget those failed states like Yemen and South Sudan.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2999721]I will take my lemonade for free now, mo fo. You still got nothing.[/QUOTE]Not to worry, dude, I'm sure the 5th grade kids on your block, have that special brew of free "lemonade", for dumbasses on their block.

Drink UP that free "lemonade", now, ya hear boy! [I][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/I].

[QUOTE=Spidy;3000755]Don't want to Pay Taxes, then consider a change of society...[/QUOTE]Hey Elvis, This is great advice from Spidy! If you don't want to pay taxes out the gazoo, like 100 X more than what you get back from the government in benefits, consider a change of scenery! Renounce your citizenship and move! That's what Trump correctly said that some successful, hard working Americans would do if their taxes were increased.

Tooms' Thailand has a territorial tax system, where you only have to pay on income you bring into the country. Costa Rica and Panama have some mighty fine hookers and they have territorial tax systems too. Yeah, you might not have the quality and value you get in Colombia, but you can pay for a lot of poontang with the taxes you'll save! Or rent an apartment and put some money in a bank in Monaco and you can live there completely tax free! So many options.

I'd advise against Spidy's picks Somalia, Afghanistan, Yemen and South Sudan. Yes, their individual tax rates are 0% or 10%, but the women are butt fuck ugly in three of those countries. And they might just slice your wiener off in Somalia if you're caught in a tryst with one of the local lasses.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2999624]Probably not in Europe where we have much better quality for thermic cars. I laugh on free speed German autobahns. Not 60 miles.[/QUOTE]More News for the EV and Battery haters...

CATL Qiling Battery II used in the Xiaomi SU7 Ultra, breaks track speed records at world famous Germany’s Nürburgring Ring.[LIST][i]Xiaomi’s prototype high-performance SU7 has set a record lap time at Germany’s Nürburgring track, according to the company. The SU7 Ultra completed the grueling circuit in just six minutes and 46.874 seconds, which takes the title of the fastest four-door car on the famous track.
[url]https://electrek.co/2024/10/29/xiaomi-suv-7-ultra-breaks-track-speed-records/[/url] [/i][/LIST]
I can only imagine, the driver of the Xiaomi EV, had a similar big smile and huge laugh on his face, as he shatters the Nürburgring track world record, in his non-polluting EV.

RamDavidson84, Not sure why you insist on outright attacking the messenger and not the message, but I think you can do better?

Dude, you do realize, that by focusing on the person delivering the argument, rather than the argument itself, you ignore the actual merits (or lack thereof), with regards to their position/argument.

Is what SubCmdr saying in the posts provided, or the evidence and FACTs, "untrue", "false" or "dis-misinformation" and out of character for the an American Fuhrer led, MAGA/Republican Party? [b]If so, by all means, state your case! [/b]

Sure, there are times, when we all poke fun at each other and there's always a bit of "mean spirited" ribbing, but in the end, delivered typically, within the context of the debate, discussion or argument.

Personally, I'm more interested in your rebuttal to his political argument or characterization of the Repubs, w/r to the intended purpose of this thread, which is to debate the political issues posed by other BMs.

C'mon man, show us your political gumption and wherewithal! As your [i][b]ad hominem post,[/b][/i] [u]doesn't really invalidate,[/u] SubCmdr's actual factual (or unfactual) claims, now does it?

[b]PS:[/b] Now I know, you're always a good solid candidate when it comes to providing your "OPINIONS", but what about the occasional FACTS and/or articles to substantiate your positions, in a debate?

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[QUOTE=Spidy;3000755] You must live a very sheltered life, not to have used, benefited from directly or indirectly from ATF, DEA, FBI, ICE, U.S. Marshall, ICE and FEMA/U.S. Fire Administration.[/QUOTE]LOL. Yeah, unlike you who came from a sperm donor and IVF, I actually had a productive hard working father. Of course, you Democratic douches think big government is your daddy. It is amazing that you have never met anyone in your life who is not a fellow parasite.

Unlike your Democratic douche rewrite of history, the USA became the largest economy in the world without an income tax. Furthermore, our forefathers were greatly concerned that our republic woiuld end when people learned they could vote money for themselves.

The thing that was unique about the USA is that our forefathers were able to experiment with various forms of government and saw what worked and did not. While you are busy sucking up to the military, if you knew your history, our forefathers NEVER want us to have a large standing army as that was typical used to oppress the people.

Because they did not want parasites like yourself who would vote themselves money, the only people allowed to vote were landowners. It was not racism. They wanted people who had a stake in the long term outcome of the country.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3000755] Hey, if paying no taxes is YOUR THING, may I suggest Somalia, Afghanistan, Monaco or Cayman Islands (for no "income tax" for the Paycheck Superheroes, like yourself), and let's not forget those failed states like Yemen and South Sudan.[/QUOTE]I have got a better idea. How about you and all the other parasites actually go to work and earn a living and leave me and all the other productive people the fuck alone? For the millionth time, I do not object to the 1/3 of income tax going for government services but the 2/3 going to parasites like you so you can pay for hookers abroad.

What amazes me is that you so fucking selfish that you are driving the country into debt with your parasitism and consider yourself a patriot. Every country in the world wants people like me, and the only reason any country would want you is for your government check. If that stopped, they would not want anything to do with you.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;3000765]Hey Elvis, This is great advice from Spidy! If you don't want to pay taxes out the gazoo, like 100 X more than what you get back from the government in benefits, consider a change of scenery! Renounce your citizenship and move! That's what Trump correctly said that some successful, hard working Americans would do if their taxes were increased..[/QUOTE]It is funny I was talking to a lawyer on a plane about this. My father was born in another country and I have citizenship there. The problem is that it is not a desirable country. Thing is if I married my Colombian gal, I would get Colombian citizenship and be able to live in most of the desirable places in South America. I have not put a pen to paper and done the calculations, but I suspect if I were to quit working and was in a situation where bond income was not taxed, I probably would be better off abroad. If you set up a holding company in the Bahamas, for example, and claim that the income is made there, then you pay no taxes on it. If you looked at it from a purely financial point of view, yeah, that would work out better. Even foregoing all I have paid into social security, I would come out ahead.

Unlike the idiots here who think that government bonds can never be defaulted on or debt can be eliminated with the stroke of a pen, I know all debt can be defaulted on, even USA government debt. So if I renounced my citizenship and needed to work again, I would be stuck. And the lawyer made the case that a government can call on and draft its citizens to do whatever. Being under the thumb of those knucklehead leaders in Colombia or Latin America is not something I would cherish. Those fools make a demented Biden look competent.

What amazes me is that dumb asses like Spidy do not get is that if people like me did leave, and honestly you can make the economic case for it, the days of his free money would come to an end. They are so fucking stupid they do not even know where their money comes from. The issue with immigration is not the productive people coming in, I want that as it would keep my social security payments solvent, it is the parasites like Spidy who enter illegally that no country wants. The Democratic douches allow it as long as the illegals vote Democrat.

Of all the issues with the USA, it is still the best country to earn a living in. I am not sure how long that is going to last, and while Biden was giving citizenshp away for votes, Trump knows what a valuable resource being an American is. I think Trump has allowed people to buy American citizenship for $5 million, and you could make a case for some people it is worth that. With my gal and her daughter, I would be able to set them up in the USA and that is the other issue I have to confront. What is best for me versus what is best for them.

But I do have a place in Colombia, and there are things I like a lot more there than in the USA. I remember the days when just trying to get news on my sports teams from abroad was murder. Now with the internet, you can not only get the scores, you can watch the games.

New York is learning what it is like to lose your most productive citizens.

The problem occurs when individuals do not know the law the law of the land!

[QUOTE]referring to a permanent resident as a guest[/QUOTE][U][b]The fact is a permanent resident is a guest![/b][/U]

Only the chronically uniformed do not realize this. [U]Permanent Residence[/U] is NOT the same as being a US Citizen. I have pointed this out more than once yet individuals wish to ignore this fact.

Because they disagree with the process and result of [B]DUE PROCESS UNDER THE RULE OF LAW[/B] they says the Dis-United States of America is no different than China or Russia. Because if you are a [U]Permanent Residence[/U] and you get sideways of the law. Better recognize. Why? Because you can get deported.

[QUOTE]Another important limitation on lawful permanent residents is that they are subject to the grounds of deportability. If you commit certain crimes or security violations, or even fail to advise USCIS of your changes of address, you can be placed in removal proceedings and deported from the United States[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo/us-immigration/permanent-resident-vs-citizen-difference.html[/URL]

Learn what the law says before trying to school me. The individuals making [B]ad hominem[/B] attacks against me are out of line.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3000791]Not sure why you insist on outright attacking the messenger and not the message, but I think you can do better?

Is what SubCmdr saying in the posts provided, or the evidence and FACTs, "untrue", "false" or "dis-misinformation" and out of character for the an American Fuhrer led, MAGA/Republican Party?
[b]If so, by all means, state your case! [/b]

Personally, I'm more interested in your rebuttal to his political argument or characterization of the Repubs, w/r to the intended purpose of this thread, which is to debate the political issues posed by other BMs. C'mon man, show us your political gumption and wherewithal! As your [i][b]ad hominem post,[/b][/i] [u]doesn't really invalidate,[/u] SubCmdr's actual factual (or unfactual) claims, now does it?

[b]PS:[/b] Now I know, you're always a good solid candidate when it comes to providing your "OPINIONS", but what about the occasional FACTS and/or articles to substantiate your positions, in a debate?[/QUOTE]Thank you Spidy for bringing the discussion back on point. The [B]Ad Hominem[/B] attack is the last refuge of the intellectually bankrupt. I will not be meeting them in court.

They have absolutely no idea what my background was serving my fellow Americans during most of my adult life under the OATH to protect and defend [U]The Constitution of the United States of America[/U] from all enemies foreign and domestic. It appeared that we have many [I]guests[/I] that don't know the law nor understand what it means to take that OATH. If I was second class citizen I would have never been allowed to take it in the first place. My fellow Americans are often equally uninformed.

[B]How you like me now?[/B]

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[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2999531][b]While you are so impressed with yourself, all I see is some [u]narcissistic[/u] loser posting worthless my dick is bigger than yours bullshit.[/b][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Allover;3000611]confirmed bully [u]racist[/u][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HotDog666;2998578]I fear you are being somewhat optimistic that you'd get this far, my dear Stephen, in an encounter with the cops. [u]Please don't over estimate your likelihood of a positive encounter with American cops[/u]. We'd miss you.

I was being a little kind to you but I'll tell you I was vicariously embarrassed for you by you appealing to this mongering board on whether you're a second class citizen. Note that no one responded. I also note that you didn't address your little cap in hand "aww shucks master" appeal to whatshisname, Nyzhenov? You know the chap who referred to you as "the colored boy" or "darkie"?
That's the thing with racism, Stephen: [B]it may be a minority who are racist to you, but you are nonetheless a [u]second class citizen[/u][/B]. But you keep telling yourself you're not, attaboy. After all, you need something to anchor your own [u]cognitive dissonance[/u] on, don't you?[/QUOTE][B]I need to anchor my own cognitive dissonance?[/B]

Someone just called me (an individual who is being told he is a second class citizen in his country of origin) a RACIST! Are you sure about that? Can any of you Republican Racists quote me making a RACIST statement here on ISG in any forum on the entire board? Can you square what our guest says about me being a [U]second class citizen[/U] and a [U]racist[/U] at the same time while being from the same country as my fellow Americans. A country our guest is saying is racist.

[QUOTE]I appreciate how you go so over the top with your [u]racist[/u] republican rants that it makes it clear to any reader you [u]dont play with a full deck of cards[/u] and therefore there is no reason to take offense.[/QUOTE][B]This post represents cognitive dissonance![/B]

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2994427]Hell yeah, fuck racists. All 12 of them left. Thank god 99.999999% of Americans don't give a fuck about skin color![/QUOTE]You are claiming that there is no RACISM in the Dis-United States of America in stark contrast to what our guest is saying.

I find it curious that an individual claiming I am having mental problems cannot make a logical argument. Since they cannot make a logical argument they engage in [B]ad hominem[/B] attacks. That is the proof that they have lost the intellectual battle. They think that by using fancy words that they have advanced off the elementary school playground. When in reality they have not.

Me saying [I]Republican Racist[/I] is no different from Elvis 2008 saying [I]Democratic Douches[/I]. But I suppose all Republican Racists completely approve of his language.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2999215]Thanks you to [u]Democratic douches[/u], schools are no longer about learning but teaching young people to vote Democrat.

Of course, this is the problem with you [u]Democratic douches[/u].[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3000914]The [u]Democratic douches[/u] allow it as long as the illegals vote Democrat.[/QUOTE]Individuals posting up in here can dish it out. But they cannot take it.

[QUOTE=HotDog666;2998578]I fear you are being somewhat optimistic that you'd get this far, my dear Stephen, in an encounter with the cops. Please don't over estimate your likelihood of a positive encounter with American cops. We'd miss you.

I was being a little kind to you but I'll tell you I was vicariously embarrassed for you by you appealing to this mongering board on whether you're a second class citizen. Note that no one responded. I also note that you didn't address your little cap in hand "aww shucks master" appeal to whatshisname, Nyzhenov? You know the chap who referred to you as "the colored boy" or "darkie"?
That's the thing with racism, Stephen: [B]it may be a minority who are racist to you, but you are nonetheless a [u]second class citizen[/u][/B]. But you keep telling yourself you're not, attaboy. After all, you need something to anchor your own [u]cognitive dissonance[/u] on, don't you?[/QUOTE][B]Police shoot Black man with his own legally registered gun[/B]

[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/czxky4xvg6no[/URL]

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3000803]I am not being racist. Police brutality during the days of rodney king was a problem. [/QUOTE]Deputies responding to a disturbance call at a Florida apartment complex burst into the wrong unit and fatally shot a Black US air force airman who was home alone when they saw he was armed with a gun, an attorney for the man's family said on Wednesday.

[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/08/florida-police-kill-us-airman[/URL]

[QUOTE]Please choose real heros to protest in the name of[/QUOTE]Real hero mother fuck?

[B]Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. But not their own facts![/B]

I will not be silenced by [B]ad hominem[/B] attacks. The ignore function is available for those who cannot handle my posts like a stiff shot of whiskey (straight no chase)!

Where even to begin.

Remember when Trump took credit for the stock market gains under Biden in early 2024 because, he said, polls showed him ahead of Biden?

The 100 years long pattern of horrific Repub Economic Policy and stewardship results vs far, far superior and historic Dem Economic Policy and stewardship results triggering the Repub gaslighting of blithering idiots in the country into believing that Repubs are responsible for the great Dem Administration successes while Dems are to blame for the horrific Repub Administration failures continues on steroids under Trump:

[B]Trump says he'll blame Biden for 2nd quarter GDP after blaming him for Q1 drop.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/30/trump-gdp-tariffs-biden-overhang.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]President Donald Trump blamed former President Joe Biden after new data showed USA Gross domestic product contracting in the first quarter of 2025.

He suggested he will blame Biden for the second quarter, too.

His claim that the negative GDP and subsequent market declines were a result of Biden's policies is inaccurate. [/QUOTE]And for the love of god what must the leaders of every other powerful as well as every "shithole" country in the world think when they see that blithering, blathering, astonishingly stupid, fat fuck Trump's quivering cheeks, pretend "tough guy" watery eyes stare, hilariously phony menacing voice when he so pathetically insists and tries to convince a genuine, real news interviewer that "up is down, down is up" in the face of blatantly obvious evidence even to a 9 year old that the letters and numbers MS-13 are NOT tattooed on a man's knuckles in a photo and were clearly, obviously, inarguably and irrefutable added to the photo later either by a photo-doctoring app or possibly actually printed right on the finished photo over at Uncle Bill's Old-School Ink and Print Shop!

[B]Watch the face, hear the voice and witness the conclusive evidence of a hopelessly stupid old man demanding that Reality be twisted and altered in order to suit his dangerous and destructive cognitive incapacity:[/B]

[URL]https://youtu.be/89JJcUHqC30?si=TEpkkZGJSwQpz_8-[/URL]

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[QUOTE=EihTooms;3000969]Where even to begin.

Remember when Trump took credit for the stock market gains under Biden in early 2024 because, he said, polls showed him ahead of Biden?[/QUOTE]God, you are so full of shit. These are today's headlines.

In a clear shift in tone Friday, China's Commerce Ministry said it was weighing starting talks with the USA To halt a trade war while expressing Beijing's wish for the Trump administration to "show sincerity" to talk. Previously, the ministry had demanded that Washington slash its steep tariffs on China first as a condition for negotiations.

S&P Erases All 'Liberation Day' Losses As Beijing Bends Knee.

Trump's April tariff revenue topped $17 billion. That dwarfs any haul from his first term.

USA Payroll growth totals 177,000 in April, defying expectations.

Trump came into office on January 20 of the 1st quarter. That was Biden's quarter.

Is that what you are going to do every day is make shit up about how great the economy was under Biden and how terrible it is under Trump? Maybe you do not get this from Thailand but not that much has changed with the economy.

But there is some bad news for parasites like you: DOGE staffer Steve Davis told Fox News's Jesse Watters Primetime that a $4 billion coronavirus fund allocated to the Department of Education had virtually no oversight. "There was a $4 billion COVID fund in the Department of Education, and there was no receipts required, so people could draw down on it, and when people looked into itit wasn't us, it was before us they found the money was used to rent out Caesar's Palace for parties, rent out stadiums," Davis said. He added that DOGE implemented a simple fix: requiring receipts for withdrawals. "That was the only change that was made," Davis noted. "And upon doing so, nobody drew down any money. ".

Now we just to look at all those on entitlement programs and the old folks who use their handouts to buy hookers.

When I said %99.99 of Americans aren't racist, it was an exaggeration a bit I guess. I still say a very small percentage of Americans are truly racist, both white and black and any other ethnicity. Of course there will always be a percentage of mentally ill individuals or very insecure uneducated people who fall to racism. Its unavoidable.

Racist Republicans is hate speech and it shouldn't be allowed and it offends me. I would never start with racist insults and I don't say those things as insults to people no matter what. I also don't condone people saying hate speech to me.

Here is a list of black American Heroes in my eyes worthy of a PEACEFUL PROTEST! Douglas, Tubman, King, Ali, Parks, Obama, Malcom X, Spike Lee, Tupac, and hundreds of others. I won't join a movement that glorifies drug addicted professional thieves.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2999945][url]https://www.pgpf.org/article/budget-explainer-highway-trust-fund/[/url]

You look at this and it just shows how [b]gutless[/b] the Feds are. They are too [b]chicken shit[/b] to raise gasoline taxes to cover highway expenses and instead are racking up debt. There is no reason for any income tax to go towards highways.[/QUOTE]Well [b]"Yes"[/b] and [b]"No"[/b], w/r to your question of "the feds", raising the gasoline tax?

• "YES", under the Dems, the feds raised the gasoline tax in 2008.
• "NO", it has NOT been raised by the feds, under the [u]"chicken shit"[/u] Repubs, since the Dems raised.

But I do agree, that under the Repub feds, your characterization of them being [I][b]"gutless"[/b][/I] and [I][b]"chicken shit",[/b][/I] is very much, an accurate statement.

So while the HFT/gasoline tax, for whatever political reasons, has always been seen and used, as a political football, it would seem the political gamesmanship surrounding raising gasoline taxes to fund the HTF, is oddly viewed as tantamount to [b]political suicide.[/b] So by all means I think the Repubs should have at it and raise the gas tax.

My suggestion, would be to just lump it in with the Fuhrer's tariff taxes....

So if we're keeping score and we are, the last party, to raise the unpopular and unfavorable gasoline tax, was the Dems, and Bill Clinton, some 20+ years ago. So by all accounts, [B]it's has been the Repubs turn at bat,[/B] (so to speak), for some time now, to raise that unpopular tax!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2999721] You are still striking out.[/QUOTE]Nah, Never! ...Well not this time, at any rate!

But hey, what's stopping your [I][b]"gutless"[/b][/I] and [I][b]"chicken shit"[/b][/I] MAGA/Repubs (w/r to having all three (3) houses, again, in the 2nd Fuhrer Term), now up at bat, from raising the gasoline tax, to fund the HTF? They'd better not strike out!

Better yet, maybe that Repub clown show cabinet/admin, should get the minority "DEI" Marco Rubio, to do it, since he's the only Repub politician, now taking over and assigned 4 to 5 other jobs, from other inept cabinet members, in capable of doing anything.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2999945][url]https://www.pgpf.org/article/budget-explainer-highway-trust-fund/[/url]

You look at this and it just shows how [b]gutless[/b] the Feds are. They are too [b]chicken shit[/b] to raise gasoline taxes to cover highway expenses and instead are racking up debt. There is no reason for any income tax to go towards highways.[/QUOTE]Well [b]"Yes"[/b] and [b]"No"[/b], w/r to your question of "the feds", raising the gasoline tax?

• "YES", under the Dems, the feds raised the gasoline tax in 2008.
• "NO", it has NOT been raised by the feds, under the [u]"chicken shit"[/u] Repubs, since the Dems raised.

But I do agree, that under the Repub feds, your characterization of them being [I][b]"gutless"[/b][/I] and [I][b]"chicken shit",[/b][/I] is very much, an accurate statement..[/QUOTE]Nah, Never! Well not this time, at any rate!

But hey, what's stopping your [I][b]"gutless"[/b][/I] and [I][b]"chicken shit"[/b][/I] MAGA/Repubs (w/r to having all three (3) houses, again, in the 2nd Fuhrer Term), now up at bat, from raising the gasoline tax, to fund the HTF? They'd better not strike out!

Better yet, maybe that Repub clown show cabinet/admin, should get the minority "DEI" Marco Rubio, to do it, since he's the only Repub politician, now taking over and assigned 4 to 5 other jobs, from other inept cabinet members, in capable of doing anything.

Look at what's happening to Spain and Portugal. So-called industrialized nations. Rolling blackouts? People killing each other on the streets of Lisbon and Barcelona for the last can of tuna? At this rate, it'll happen here in the States. Thanks a lot! Let's get NVDA's stock price up first, back to at least $140, then we can focus on fixing the economy.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3001139] "YES", under the Dems, the feds raised the gasoline tax in 2008.

...and Bill Clinton, some 20+ years ago. ...[/QUOTE]It's been 28 years, to be more precise (October 1, 1993), since the gas tax, was raised, since a Dem in Bill Clinton, left office back in 2001.

Looks like the Repubs, have more work to do and catching-up to the Dems, than previously thought! [i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i]

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;3001146]Look at what's happening to Spain and Portugal. So-called industrialized nations. Rolling blackouts? People killing each other on the streets of Lisbon and Barcelona for the last can of tuna? At this rate, it'll happen here in the States. Thanks a lot! Let's get NVDA's stock price up first, back to at least $140, then we can focus on fixing the economy.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/02/business/stock-market-recovery-trump-tariffs.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3001092]God, you are so full of shit. These are today's headlines.

In a clear shift in tone Friday, China's Commerce Ministry said it was weighing starting talks with the USA To halt a trade war while expressing Beijing's wish for the Trump administration to "show sincerity" to talk. Previously, the ministry had demanded that Washington slash its steep tariffs on China first as a condition for negotiations.

S&P Erases All 'Liberation Day' Losses As Beijing Bends Knee.

Trump's April tariff revenue topped $17 billion. That dwarfs any haul from his first term.

USA Payroll growth totals 177,000 in April, defying expectations.

Trump came into office on January 20 of the 1st quarter. That was Biden's quarter.

Is that what you are going to do every day is make shit up about how great the economy was under Biden and how terrible it is under Trump? Maybe you do not get this from Thailand but not that much has changed with the economy.

But there is some bad news for parasites like you: DOGE staffer Steve Davis told Fox News's Jesse Watters Primetime that a $4 billion coronavirus fund allocated to the Department of Education had virtually no oversight. "There was a $4 billion COVID fund in the Department of Education, and there was no receipts required, so people could draw down on it, and when people looked into itit wasn't us, it was before us they found the money was used to rent out Caesar's Palace for parties, rent out stadiums," Davis said. He added that DOGE implemented a simple fix: requiring receipts for withdrawals. "That was the only change that was made," Davis noted. "And upon doing so, nobody drew down any money. ".

Now we just to look at all those on entitlement programs and the old folks who use their handouts to buy hookers.[/QUOTE][URL]https://m-economictimes-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/m.economictimes.com/news/international/us/doge-cancels-over-200000-credit-cards-who-is-affected-and-what-it-means/amp_articleshow/118900635.cms?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQGsAEggAID[/URL]#amp_tf=From%20%251%24's&aoh=17418201357735&csi=0&referrer=https%3 A%2 F%2 F [URL]www.google.com[/URL]&ampshare=https%3 A%2 F%2 Fm. [URL]economictimes.com[/URL]%2 Fnews%2 Finternational%2 Fus%2 Fdoge-cancels-over-200000-credit-cards-who-is-affected-and-what-it-means%2 Farticleshow%2 F118900635. Cms.

Take away their free money CCs and ghost payrolling gigs aka "remote WFH" and things are looking up.

Next up privitize the joke called the USPS.

"Now we just to look at all those on entitlement programs and the old folks who use their handouts to buy hookers".

But hey you can just look at this as USAID to single 3rd world mothers, in The PI, Siam, Brasil, Colombia, The FKKs for Romania et al.

But if I was Our Lord and Savior I would say if you leave the USA and don't return for over 2 yrs, you lose your right to vote and SS unless US Military etc.

But who knows maybe that's a bad idea? Just think then we would be stuck with the likes of SUB / Bottom be.

I would also be ok if they paid them premium benefits to never return also LOLOLOLOLOLOL.

Opposite of a Golden Visa a Golden Exit package / parachute, they would give up their passport / citizenship and right to ever return / vote!

And if they refuse the offer send them to CECOT where he belongs.

[QUOTE]If there is a policy which is racist, identify it and point out why you think its racist so logical people on both sides can see it and fight against it without bias.[/QUOTE]Ok, here is one of my favorites:

The Republican (you know what) want (insert color of your choice here) girls to have more babies to increase the (insert color of your choice here) population in the Dis-United States of America. But they don't give a fuck about the child after their (insert color of your choice here) mother pushes it out of her vagina and it plops itself down in the Dis-United States of America. Ready to receive a lifetime of privilege simply because of who they are, not what they have done (especially if they are male).

But wait there is more: The State Department of the Dis-United States of America are there to for those mothers giving birth outside of the Dis-United States of America to ensure that child receives the same lifetime of benefits they would of if she plopped down her new bundle of join on US Soil.

Now the baby is here. Republican (you know what) they do not want spend penny of USGOV money on taking care of that kid after they arrive.

The following comes right from the web site that is a favorite of Republican (eh, thinkers)?

[QUOTE][b]Congress should end federal spending on school food programs[/b]. That could be accomplished by combining the programs into a single block grant for each state and phasing down the funding over time. The states could adapt the programs if they choose, and structure them to fit the local needs of their residents.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.cato.org/policy-analysis/cutting-school-food-subsidies[/URL]

[B]The Defense Rests![/B]

[U][b]The Topic is: The Rule of Law in the Dis-United States of America[/b][/U]

[QUOTE=HotDog666;2998578]Let me refresh your memory on this topic: you claimed that the "rule of law" was what distinguished American (mis) treatment of the likes of the El Salvadorian and Mahmud Khalil from how Russia behaves. I've literally given you evidence of how a) the Executive continues to defies the judiciary and b) how your laws are made up as you go along with regards to Mahmud Khalil, in defiance of your supposed constitution, everything America claims to stand for, and natural justice, based on contrivance and downright lies by the Executive. I also note how you've characteristically disingenuously transitioned your rebuttal from "rule of law" to "due process" which are not synonymous. If it is due process, then going back to my original point, Russia and other tyrannies also have "due process". There are courts and trials. These are due process, but it does not amount to justice.

Finally no matter how many times you repeat your canard it does not make it true. Mahmud Khalil was not a guest, he was a permanent resident. It would not have mattered regardless but your lies in endeavouring to gloss over his treatment in the "land of the free unless you criticise Israel for genocide, home of the brave" cannot be permitted to go unchallenged.[/QUOTE]The reality is: [B]The Article 3 branch of the Dis-United States of America is under attack[/B]!

[QUOTE]As federal judges rule against the Trump administration in dozens of politically charged cases, the families of at least 11 of the jurists have been targeted with threats and harassment. The intimidation campaign has strained judges and their relatives and legal scholars fear it could have a chilling effect on the judiciary.[/QUOTE]As the Article 3 public servants perform their assigned duties on behalf of my fellow Americans individuals (of unknown political affiliation) are working hard to impede that work outside of the courtroom.

[QUOTE]The presidents supporters unleashed a wave of threats and menacing posts. And they didnt just target the judge. Some attacked Boasbergs brother. Others blasted his daughter. [b]Some demanded the familys arrest or execution[/b].[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.reuters.com/investigations/these-judges-ruled-against-trump-then-their-families-came-under-attack-2025-05-02/[/URL]

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;3001146]Let's get NVDA's stock price up first, back to at least $140, then we can focus on fixing the economy.[/QUOTE][U]NVDA[/U]

[QUOTE]But do not worry. SC swears it is going up so you should buy it. And BTW, did he mention the killing he is making in gold?[/QUOTE]NVDA had a high of 153. When the DeepSeek news it came out it took a hit to the level it is while I am looking my iPad mini writing this post: 114.

[U]Gold[/U]

[QUOTE]And BTW, did he mention the killing he is making in gold?[/QUOTE]Here is my latest trade:

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2999150]
[B]How did that trade go?[/B]

[U]Lets do some trader math[/U]

I bought at 32700/ baht.

I sold at 52650/ baht.

52650 - 32700 = 19,950/ baht increase.

[U]That is a [b]61.01%[/b] increase![/U]

[/QUOTE][B]Facts: They are horrible thing to overlook![/B]

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[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3001092]God, you are so full of shit. These are today's headlines.

In a clear shift in tone Friday, China's Commerce Ministry said it was weighing starting talks with the USA To halt a trade war while expressing Beijing's wish for the Trump administration to "show sincerity" to talk. Previously, the ministry had demanded that Washington slash its steep tariffs on China first as a condition for negotiations.

S&P Erases All 'Liberation Day' Losses As Beijing Bends Knee.

Trump's April tariff revenue topped $17 billion. That dwarfs any haul from his first term.

USA Payroll growth totals 177,000 in April, defying expectations.

Trump came into office on January 20 of the 1st quarter. That was Biden's quarter.

Is that what you are going to do every day is make shit up about how great the economy was under Biden and how terrible it is under Trump? Maybe you do not get this from Thailand but not that much has changed with the economy.

But there is some bad news for parasites like you: DOGE staffer Steve Davis told Fox News's Jesse Watters Primetime that a $4 billion coronavirus fund allocated to the Department of Education had virtually no oversight. "There was a $4 billion COVID fund in the Department of Education, and there was no receipts required, so people could draw down on it, and when people looked into itit wasn't us, it was before us they found the money was used to rent out Caesar's Palace for parties, rent out stadiums," Davis said. He added that DOGE implemented a simple fix: requiring receipts for withdrawals. "That was the only change that was made," Davis noted. "And upon doing so, nobody drew down any money. ".

Now we just to look at all those on entitlement programs and the old folks who use their handouts to buy hookers.[/QUOTE]A rhetorical question; is a Chinese "weigh" a longer, shorter or the same length of time as a Trumpian "two weeks"? Lolol.

Oh look! Xi just stole the market manipulation control of the S&P 500 Index right out from under Trump's orange nose with that simple "weighing" comment. LOL. Brilliant. He didn't even have to sit down at a negotiation table to win that one from Trump. Lolol.

Now that Xi owns the market manipulation of the S&P 500, won it from Trump with the utterance of a single word, let's see where it goes when he uses the words "no longer weighing" in his pronouncements.

So Trump pulled an additional $17 Billion out of the pockets of the American Working Men and Women Consumers in April alone? Impressive.

And if the "expectations" were that Trump's sinking economy would only produce 133,000 jobs in April, I suppose even 133,001 would have "defied expectation". Still below what was produced in March, when it was a bit more realistic to identify it as "Biden's Economy", right? Way below.

I see so many Trumpsters' memes on the internet proclaiming how "great" things are now, how much better their economic conditions are now with lower gas and grocery prices, a safer border, sunny days, bunny rabbits and daisies abounding and all that.

How do you guys reconcile those claims while your guy is out there demanding that we see all this greatness as "Biden's Economy"?

Feeling betrayed yet?

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3001337]But if I was Our Lord and Savior I would say if you leave the USA and don't return for over 2 yrs, you lose your right to vote and SS unless US Military etc. But who knows maybe that's a bad idea?[/QUOTE]If people played Hail to the Chief when I walked into the room. I would work with the congress to pass a law that required 4 years of military or civilian government service in order for you to earn your rights as a Citizen of the United States of America [B]that could NEVER be forfeited or removed for any reason once you received it[/B]. There would be no exceptions to this law. You either serve your four years or you don't. The age of eligibility would the be age anyone can be tried as an adult in a court of law. Only citizens could work in the the civilian government or serve on juries. Only citizens could hold public office of any type in the country. Only female citizens could have babies. They can get knocked up by whom ever they wanted to take the dick from. But one the push their bundles of joy out of the womb and through their vaginas the baby does NOT become a citizen until they serve like their mother.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3001337]Just think then we would be stuck with the likes of SUB / Bottom be.[/QUOTE]Why are [B]ad hominem[/B] attacks like this allowed?

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3001337]I would also be ok if they paid them premium benefits to never return [/QUOTE][B]You mean i would get my 40 acres and a mule?[/B]

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3001337]Opposite of a Golden Visa a Golden Exit package / parachute, they would give up their passport / citizenship and right to ever return / vote![/QUOTE]No taxation without representation. If I got 40 acres along Las Vegas Blvd. Sold it tax free I think I could do just fine if individuals of the party that harbor racists wish to take much stronger actions than this:

[QUOTE][b]The New Orleans massacre of 1866[/b] occurred on July 30, when a peaceful demonstration of mostly Black*Freedmen*was set upon by a mob of white rioters, many of whom had been soldiers of the recently defeated*Confederate States of America, leading to a full-scale massacre.[/QUOTE][URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Orleans_Massacre_of_1866[/URL]

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3001337]And if they refuse the offer send them to CECOT where he belongs.[/QUOTE]I would never refuse my 40 acres and a mule. So I wouldn't have to worry about any consequences that individuals of a party that harbors racists think I personally or others should endure.

[B]An interesting thought exercise[/B] Why don't you run for office? Or better yet, just send in your ideas to your Representative and Two Senators.

You are aware of this provision in the United States Constitution:

[QUOTE][b]The First Amendment[/b]: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, [u]and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances[/u].[/QUOTE][B]If you didnt know, now you know![/B]

[QUOTE]And if they refuse the offer send them to CECOT where he belongs. Spanish: [b]Centro de Confinamiento del Terrorismo[/b], abbreviated and commonly known as CECOT) is a maximum security prison in Tecoluca, El Salvador. [/QUOTE]Cute quote!

Those who look to El Salvador as an example of good government should go live there. It is a benevolent dictatorship hiding as a democracy clothing. My only respect is due to their stance on Bitcoin. Which they rolled back after they needed to get on their knees for a loan from the IMF.

[QUOTE]In December 2024, El Salvador and the International Monetary Fund (IMF) reached a staff-level agreement for a $1.4 billion loan. The agreement, which outlines key policy commitments and structural reforms, remains subject to approval by the IMF Executive Board before the funds can be disbursed. However, concerns persist among civil society organizations and broader segments of the Salvadorean public that approval of an arrangement with the IMF could enable continued democratic backsliding and allow Nayib Bukele to further consolidate his authoritarian grip. The IMF Executive Board can help mitigate such concerns by enhancing transparency and accountability in the IMF-supported program. As a first step, including the following considerations into the IMF program would strengthen democratic norms and the rule of law in El Salvador, especially in the areas of governance and anti-corruption. Similarly, by improving consultation and encouraging communication with and the involvement of civil society actors, the IMF team, management, and the board would support broader public buy-in and strengthen program implementation.[/QUOTE][B]Why is it that the only governments individuals who favor the views of the party that harbors racists only admire dictators and those that want to be dictators like Elon Musk?[/B]

In fact, those that have a problem with US Citizens who live outside of the Dis-United States of America are idiots who do not realize that those citizens pay taxes to the US Federal Government no matter where in the world they are living. So, outside services from the US State Department, Office of Consulate Services, me and my fellow Americans like me receive no benefits from our taxes. We retain our vote precisely because we pay taxes.

Individuals in the party that harbor racists that make statements that [I]Social Security is a hand out[/I] are uninformed at best, liars at worst. If you have a problem with Social Security. Be a man. Write to your elective representative and your two Senators and tell them you support Social Security being means tested. You do know you can do that right?

[B]You are aware of this provision in the United States Constitution[/B]:

[QUOTE][b]The First Amendment[/b]: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, [u]and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances[/u].[/QUOTE][B]If you didnt know, now you know![/B]

[URL]https://m-economictimes-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/m.economictimes.com/news/international/us/doge-cancels-over-200000-credit-cards-who-is-affected-and-what-it-means/amp_articleshow/118900635.cms?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQGsAEggAID[/URL]#ampshare=https%3 A%2 F%2 Fm. [URL]economictimes.com[/URL]%2 Fnews%2 Finternational%2 Fus%2 Fdoge-cancels-over-200000-credit-cards-who-is-affected-and-what-it-means%2 Farticleshow%2 F118900635. Cms.

[B]However, the State Department emerged as the only agency among the 16 that did not have any credit cards canceled during this initial phase of the audit.[/B]

That is because Elon Musk is scared shitless of the Secretary of State! Even Musk know who he can fuck with and who he cannot in the USGOV! The Secretary of State does not play nor kiss Musk's ass. The Secretary of State stood up against Trator Musk in the first Cabinet Meeting that POTUS held and shut Musk down.

[URL]https://youtube.com/shorts/jMHoGfWY0AI?si=Av9eK-b6jqn4jw3A[/URL]

[B]Oh, that was nasty![/B]

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Civilisations rise and fall. What precipitates their collapse? It's broadly one of two reasons. Firstly, it's another society ascertaining what made the incumbent civilisation so great, how to replicate and possibly improve upon these features through luck, circumstance, industry or other less respectable means. Take for example the UK, the birthplace of the industrial revolution, upon which the sun finally did set post WW2 which gave the impetus for America to exercise its latent industrial might.

The other reason is when the incumbent civilisation forgets the values or key sucess factors that bought it into prominence. There are whole books devoted to why the Roman empire collapsed with multiple reasons but amongst those will be prominent that the Roman empire became decadent, corrupt and had a succession of incapable leaders.

Both of these reasons are pertinent to America: take the aphorism that never in history of humanity have so many people been alleviated from so much poverty in such a brief period of time as in modern day China. The Chinese learned from Lee Kuan Yew how to generate such incredible economic growth and in doing so also refuted the notion that economic growth necessitates a democratic system.

Trump is the embodiment of the other reason for America's demise. If you reject the very values that made you great in the first place (would the American economy have expanded as it did in the absence of its constitution, or legal framework or social values?) and if the rot comes from within then there is no one left to blame.

America will remain a highly influential power on the world stage simply due to its economic size and resources and its military might but the sun is setting on its being the sole superpower. The ascendancy of China to rival America on an eye to eye basis was always probable but is now inevitable. And the worst of it is America has accelerated its decline itself.

The ROW's goal must now be to shape a new world order in which America and China can co-exist without a military or other kind of war, simply for self interest purposes. Whether that's likely is something I don't know.

[QUOTE=HotDog666;3001545][URL]https://www.ft.com/content/b4efc86a-1064-4549-857d-619fb1841943[/URL]

Civilisations rise and fall. What precipitates their collapse? It's broadly one of two reasons. Firstly, it's another society ascertaining what made the incumbent civilisation so great, how to replicate and possibly improve upon these features through luck, circumstance, industry or other less respectable means. Take for example the UK, the birthplace of the industrial revolution, upon which the sun finally did set post WW2 which gave the impetus for America to exercise its latent industrial might.

The other reason is when the incumbent civilisation forgets the values or key sucess factors that bought it into prominence. There are whole books devoted to why the Roman empire collapsed with multiple reasons but amongst those will be prominent that the Roman empire became decadent, corrupt and had a succession of incapable leaders.

Both of these reasons are pertinent to America: take the aphorism that never in history of humanity have so many people been alleviated from so much poverty in such a brief period of time as in modern day China. The Chinese learned from Lee Kuan Yew how to generate such incredible economic growth and in doing so also refuted the notion that economic growth necessitates a democratic system.

Trump is the embodiment of the other reason for America's demise. If you reject the very values that made you great in the first place (would the American economy have expanded as it did in the absence of its constitution, or legal framework or social values?) and if the rot comes from within then there is no one left to blame.

America will remain a highly influential power on the world stage simply due to its economic size and resources and its military might but the sun is setting on its being the sole superpower. The ascendancy of China to rival America on an eye to eye basis was always probable but is now inevitable. And the worst of it is America has accelerated its decline itself.

The ROW's goal must now be to shape a new world order in which America and China can co-exist without a military or other kind of war, simply for self interest purposes. Whether that's likely is something I don't know.[/QUOTE]Trump's Meet The Press interview will go down in history as Exhibit [B]A[/B] for the total idiocy of any human being left on Earth who believes a single syllable of anything that fat fucking liar says.

Uh. You dumb fat fuck, going from "30 dolls to 2 dolls that cost more" is a 93% reduction in economic activity accompanied by higher prices along with, unavoidably and inevitably, a huge reduction in the number of employees on the payroll to sell dolls.

Otherwise known as Classic Repub Policy and Stewardhip Economic Stagflation.

Although it is doubtful the lady interviewing him on that typically pro Repub Mainstream Media program knew it because all she managed to do in the face of Trump's Gish Gallop fire hose of lies was to smile, nod and try to remember or figure out what her next question that won't get a coherent answer from that dumb fat fuck will be.

POTUS does not have to support the constitution. If he does not the Article II Branch of the USGOV can act.

[QUOTE]As adopted by the framers of the Constitution, this congressional power is a fundamental component of the system of checks and balances. Through the impeachment process, Congress charges and then tries an official of the federal government for Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors. [/QUOTE][URL]https://www.senate.gov/about/powers-procedures/impeachment.htm[/URL]

Why I have to explain this to grown men is beyond me. They must be guests if they don't understand it.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3001601]Trump's Meet The Press interview will go down in history as Exhibit [B]A[/B] for the total idiocy of any human being left on Earth who believes a single syllable of anything that fat fucking liar says.

Uh. You dumb fat fuck, going from "30 dolls to 2 dolls that cost more" is a 93% reduction in economic activity accompanied by higher prices along with, unavoidably and inevitably, a huge reduction in the number of employees on the payroll to sell dolls.

Otherwise known as Classic Repub Policy and Stewardhip Economic Stagflation.

Although it is doubtful the lady interviewing him on that typically pro Repub Mainstream Media program knew it because all she managed to do in the face of Trump's Gish Gallop fire hose of lies was to smile, nod and try to remember or figure out what her next question that won't get a coherent answer from that dumb fat fuck will be.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.newsmax.com/briggenblaineholt/xijinping-mao-pla/2025/05/02/id/1209352/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/05/04/trump-the-good-parts-are-the-trump-economy-and-the-bad-parts-are-the-biden-economy/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;3000910]I have got a better idea. How about you and all the other parasites actually go to work and earn a living and leave me and all the other productive people the fuck alone? For the millionth time, I do not object to the 1/3 of income tax going for government services but the 2/3 going to parasites like you so you can pay for hookers abroad.

What amazes me is that you so fucking selfish that you are driving the country into debt with your parasitism and consider yourself a patriot. Every country in the world wants people like me, and the only reason any country would want you is for your government check. If that stopped, they would not want anything to do with you.[/QUOTE] [i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i]

Once again and for the umpteenth time, please provide the facts, links, articles or evidence to your [i][b]"2/3 [government spending] going to parasites"[/b][/i] MAGA propaganda?

Surely, when those right-wing (lunatics) and MAGA moronic pundits, told you this garbage, also provided you with FACTS, links, articles, documentation, something to go along with that "spoon full" of propaganda? ....NO?

Or is this just more typical, vintage Elvis 2008 hyperbole? [i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i]

Okay, here's a reminder, in case you forgot, what that looks like in the real world, as to what are the different ways, that government spends your tax dollars? [url]https://www.ramseysolutions.com/taxes/where-does-your-tax-money-go[/url]

• Health (29.1%)
• Social Security (16.2%)
• National Defense (16%)
• National Debt Interest (12.2%)
• Income Security (7.7%)
• Veterans Benefits (3.8%)
• Education (2.6%)
• Transportation (1.5%)
• Miscellaneous (10.9%) (ie. Agriculture, Justice, General government, Natural resources and environment, International affairs, Community and regional development ...etc)

So where's the parasitic spending?

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3001601]Trump's Meet The Press interview will go down in history as Exhibit [B]A[/B] for the total idiocy of any human being left on Earth who believes a single syllable of anything that fat fucking liar says.

Uh. You dumb fat fuck, going from "30 dolls to 2 dolls that cost more" is a 93% reduction in economic activity accompanied by higher prices along with, unavoidably and inevitably, a huge reduction in the number of employees on the payroll to sell dolls.

Otherwise known as Classic Repub Policy and Stewardhip Economic Stagflation.

Although it is doubtful the lady interviewing him on that typically pro Repub Mainstream Media program knew it because all she managed to do in the face of Trump's Gish Gallop fire hose of lies was to smile, nod and try to remember or figure out what her next question that won't get a coherent answer from that dumb fat fuck will be.[/QUOTE]Yes, your senile Trump You elected twice, is a so big liar. When USA never protected Ukraine and never gave 350 billions help, but hardly half and not more than Europe, with half help going to USA companies sending their weapons stock, when Europe don t ask more than double money back. When USA can t compete with China, or Europe quality for economics, when USA always made good business from wars, even when they lost, now USA new business is robbering poor Ukrainians, without not even protecting them. Such shameful USA now, rather than MAGA.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3001710]Okay, here's a reminder, in case you forgot, what that looks like in the real world, as to what are the different ways, that government spends your tax dollars? [url]https://www.ramseysolutions.com/taxes/where-does-your-tax-money-go[/url]

Health (29.1%)
Social Security (16.2%)
National Defense (16%)
National Debt Interest (12.2%)
Income Security (7.7%)
Veterans Benefits (3.8%)
Education (2.6%)
Transportation (1.5%)
Miscellaneous (10.9%) (ie. Agriculture, Justice, General government, Natural resources and environment, International affairs, Community and regional development ...etc)

So where's the parasitic spending?[/QUOTE]Ok Spidy so we have a member of the party that houses racists under the guise of being conservatives saying [I]Social Security[/I] is a hand out. Why do they continue to repeat that lie? You and I know why. It is because they are hopeful individuals will not call them on their misinformation (actually lies). No matter how many times they say it the facts don't change. My fellow Americans have paid into Social Security. Where is the hand out? Those same Americans also pay the taxes that fund the rest of the expenses on your list.

[B]It is the fault of the Article I branch of the USGOV that debt exists.[/B]

Who is receiving [I]Social Security[/I] that was not a productive citizen before they began to receive it? Are individuals of the party that harbors (you know what) really that incapable of reasoning and rational thought? Or are they just numerically impaired.

Last question: I wonder out loud if the same people calling Social Security a hand out will also collect it when their times comes? They need to say yes.

[B]Don't lie mother fucks![/B]

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3001685]POTUS does not have to support the constitution. If he does not the Article II Branch of the USGOV can act.

[URL]https://www.senate.gov/about/powers-procedures/impeachment.htm[/URL]

Why I have to explain this to grown men is beyond me. They must be guests if they don't understand it.[/QUOTE]"Don't wrestle with a pig, you both get dirty and the pig enjoys it", urged George Bernard Shaw.

On this occasion I'll opt to disregard his wise words to point out that Trump swore to uphold the constitution. Try reading it slowly.

[QUOTE]On this occasion I'll opt to disregard his wise words to point out that Trump swore to uphold the constitution. Try reading it slowly.[/QUOTE]Look up why President Nixon resigned.

The OP (who is a guest) needs to start by reading the Constitution of the United States of America. Babies learn this stuff in school. Grow men should already know it.

Remedial education is needed:

[URL]https://youtu.be/pKSGyiT-o3o?si=tM6qCtqr5ZiW2-U5[/URL]

[URL]https://youtu.be/SZ8psP4S6BQ?si=3nYqZ_4ibdZERHM9[/URL]

[URL]https://youtu.be/pKSGyiT-o3o?si=yuhid-ZVoLzBIcFM[/URL]

You are welcome!

[QUOTE][b]There are three classes of people those who see, those who see when show and those who cannot see[/b] - Origin Unknown[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HotDog666;3001545] Trump is the embodiment of the other reason for America's demise. If you reject the very values that made you great in the first place (would the American economy have expanded as it did in the absence of its constitution, or legal framework or social values?) and if the rot comes from within then there is no one left to blame.[/QUOTE]Nope, sorry, the US Constitution is for Americans not people who come to our country illegally and commit crimes, and when we were founded as a nation, we had slaves and only land owners could vote. Before an income tax and women could vote, the USA was the #1 economy in the world.

Everyone knows that the reason Biden opened up the border was to pay immigrants money so they could vote Democrat. That is not saving our country. Our forefathers knew that when citizens could vote themselves money as opposed to work for it, we were doomed.

[QUOTE=HotDog666;3001545]Both of these reasons are pertinent to America: take the aphorism that never in history of humanity have so many people been alleviated from so much poverty in such a brief period of time as in modern day China. The Chinese learned from Lee Kuan Yew how to generate such incredible economic growth and in doing so also refuted the notion that economic growth necessitates a democratic system.[/QUOTE]If the world were able to sue China for damages from Covid, they would be poorer than when they joined the WTO. China is no miracle. They had the largest population and enticed businesses to locate there so they could sell to that market however American businesses had to partner with China. China steals their secrets and goes out on their own and produces things at a much lower cost hurting the original Western businesses. People were enticed by lower prices, and our supply chains were stupidly moved there. Slave wages and theft do not impress me.

China does not care about profits. The CCCP wants power. The reason that China is building so many empty cities is to keep people employed, and China is going into tremendous debt to do so. Demographically speaking, the one child policy will spell doom as their population is already older than America's. China is going the way of the last Asian economic miracle country which was Japan. Their debt will strangle them.

[QUOTE=HotDog666;3001545]Trump is the embodiment of the other reason for America's demise.

America will remain a highly influential power on the world stage simply due to its economic size and resources and its military might but the sun is setting on its being the sole superpower. The ascendancy of China to rival America on an eye to eye basis was always probable but is now inevitable. And the worst of it is America has accelerated its decline itself.[/QUOTE]Not even close. China is hugely dependent on Middle East oil and does not have the navy to keep it flowing. That is why the USA is getting out of the world's policeman / super power role. We are no longer dependent on foreign oil. Foreign trade is more of a luxury than a necessity for the USA now. Everyone wants to sell in the USA market and with that comes power that Trump is using.

What is happening now is that Trump wants to bring production back to the USA. A lot of the manufacturing that will be being brought back to the USA will be with automation. The tariffs are put in place to negotiate better deals for the USA and to protect these newly formed manufacturers. You cannot have China and Vietnam dumping goods in at below cost to destroy these nascent industries. And we were bringing back supply chains even before Trump was in office. He is just accelerating the process.

Once we bring much of our production back to the USA, we will produce better goods than anywhere else.

Thing about the Chinese economic miracle is the people touting that do not live in China. It does not take anyone long to figure out China is hell once they are there. The civilized places are crowded as fuck. Twenty miles out of the city, and you are back in the Middle Ages. And the people who return from China are often sick from the food, air, and water.

Once the USA moves away from rewarding the people who do not produce anything like lawyers and hedge fund managers and starts to reward people who provide actual goods and services to the public, we will be fine, and that will happen.

By the way, the reason the market has been up the last 10 sessions or so is not just that Trump is striking deals, it is that the tariffs are not nearly as inflationary as the media is reporting, and the tariffs are needed to protect those investing in that new manufacturing.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3001710]Okay, here's a reminder, in case you forgot, what that looks like in the real world, as to what are the different ways, that government spends your tax dollars?

So where's the parasitic spending?[/QUOTE]That you use the term your tax dollars as opposed to OUR tax dollars says it all. It is time to come clean. How much are you getting from the government Spidy and how much are you spending on hookers? This act that you are playing that the tax dollars you spend on hookers is the same as building and maintaining roads is getting old. You are using my tax dollars to pay for your hookers versus your going out on your own and working is your being a parasite. How about doing something productive and earn your own money versus being a parasite?

[QUOTE=Spidy;3001710]Health (29.1%)
Social Security (16.2%)
National Defense (16%)
National Debt Interest (12.2%)
Income Security (7.7%)
Veterans Benefits (3.8%)
Education (2.6%)
Transportation (1.5%)
Miscellaneous (10.9%) (ie. Agriculture, Justice, General government, Natural resources and environment, International affairs, Community and regional development ...etc)

So where's the parasitic spending?[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.ssa.gov/ssi/text-over-ussi.htm[/URL]

[URL]https://greemantoomey.com/you-can-collect-social-security-benefits-even-if-youve-never-worked/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.ithacajournal.com/story/news/2025/04/30/may-2025-ssi-checks-will-go-out-on-these-dates-full-schedule/83370215007/[/URL]

For the anti-Globalist MAGAs too stupid to know when they have been mercilessly conned by their lord and savior, we now have a clarification on that now iconic Trumpism, "The good parts of the economy are mine, the bad parts of the economy are Biden's. "

It turns out that to Trump the good parts, his parts, are the ones designed to help Elite Billionaire Globalist Investors to become wealthier at the great expense of everyone else and the bad parts, Biden's parts, were the ones that recovered the millions of jobs Trump wiped out last time, created millions more jobs than all three of the previous Repub presidents' policies combined, increased the purchasing power of the average American Worker by at least $1,400 per year over 2019's level, pre Trump's Pandemic, and yes, adjusted for inflation, actually passed historic bipartisan infrastructure project legislation, produced the Envy of the World Economy, etc.

Sorry to break it to you, you dumb Repub hillbilly MAGAs. Oh, and fuck you for dragging the rest of America and the world into this utter economic shitstorm for the common man and woman.

[B]Bessent at Milken: Trump will make the USA Appealing to 'investors like you'.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/05/bessent-trump-economy-tariffs-investors-milken.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent sketched a roadmap of President Donald Trumps America First Vision in a pitch to a roomful of global investors on the future of the U.S. economy.

The administrations goal is to make it even more appealing for investors like you, Bessent said.

The Cabinet secretary highlighted tariffs, tax cuts and deregulation as the three core components of Trumps economic agenda.

The remarks came as markets await developments about what the administration says are ongoing trade negotiations with numerous key partners.
..........
Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent on Monday sketched out the roadmap of President Donald Trumps America First Vision in a pitch to a roomful of global investors on the future of the United States economy.

We have uprooted government waste and harmful regulations. We have planted the seeds of private investment. And we have fertilized the ground with fresh tax legislation. [B]Next, we harvest. And we want you to harvest with us, Bessent said in a speech at the Milken Institute Global Conference.[/b]

The Cabinet secretary highlighted tariffs, tax cuts and deregulation as the three core components of Trumps economic agenda, echoing his op-ed published in The Wall Street Journal earlier Monday morning.

[B]But where that piece prioritized boosting Main Street alongside Wall Street, Bessents remarks to the private-jet crowd at the Milken conference were an explicit appeal to a tiny group of ultra-wealthy investors and entrepreneurs.

The administrations goal is to make it even more appealing for investors like you, Bessent said.[/b][/QUOTE]

Big shame for USA under crazy Trump and Israel under criminal Netanyahou about Gaza.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3001710]
Health (29.1%)
Social Security (16.2%)
National Defense (16%)
National Debt Interest (12.2%)
Income Security (7.7%)
Veterans Benefits (3.8%)
Education (2.6%)
Transportation (1.5%)
Miscellaneous (10.9%) (ie. Agriculture, Justice, General government, Natural resources and environment, International affairs, Community and regional development ...etc)

So where's the parasitic spending?[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.cbpp.org/research/food-assistance/the-supplemental-nutrition-assistance-program-snap[/URL]

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3001337][URL]https://m-economictimes-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/m.economictimes.com/news/international/us/doge-cancels-over-200000-credit-cards-who-is-affected-and-what-it-means/amp_articleshow/118900635.cms?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQGsAEggAID[/URL]#amp_tf=From%20%251%24's&aoh=17418201357735&csi=0&referrer=https%3 A%2 F%2 F [URL]www.google.com[/URL]&ampshare=https%3 A%2 F%2 Fm. [URL]economictimes.com[/URL]%2 Fnews%2 Finternational%2 Fus%2 Fdoge-cancels-over-200000-credit-cards-who-is-affected-and-what-it-means%2 Farticleshow%2 F118900635. Cms.

Take away their free money CCs and ghost payrolling gigs aka "remote WFH" and things are looking up.

Next up privitize the joke called the USPS.

"Now we just to look at all those on entitlement programs and the old folks who use their handouts to buy hookers".

But hey you can just look at this as USAID to single 3rd world mothers, in The PI, Siam, Brasil, Colombia, The FKKs for Romania et al.

But if I was Our Lord and Savior I would say if you leave the USA and don't return for over 2 yrs, you lose your right to vote and SS unless US Military etc.

But who knows maybe that's a bad idea? Just think then we would be stuck with the likes of SUB / Bottom be.

I would also be ok if they paid them premium benefits to never return also LOLOLOLOLOLOL.

Opposite of a Golden Visa a Golden Exit package / parachute, they would give up their passport / citizenship and right to ever return / vote!

And if they refuse the offer send them to CECOT where he belongs.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/05/05/trump-promises-illegals-beautiful-flight-out-u-s-if-they-self-deport/[/URL]

Individuals posting up here seem to have a American centric world view. There are a few notable exceptions: [B]Spidy[/B] and [B]Eih Tooms[/B]. Those are individuals who are not taking information they receive from main stream media, swallowing it and then regurgitating us like a cow chewing it's cud.

The Republican Morons and the guests that are supporting them with their racist attitudes need to travel a bit more and get some world perspective. It is very interesting looking at the West from a half a world away through a completely different lens. I don't recognize my country of origin anymore. We have people up in posting racist statements, people supporting police brutality based on race and people who claim to love America but fly to South American to fuck Latinas. Hell even POTUS does not fuck American (unless it is a porn start).

The OP wants to go back to the days of slavery. Look at this:

[QUOTE]Nope, sorry, the US Constitution is for Americans not people who come to our country illegally and commit crimes, and [b]when we were founded as a nation, we had slaves and only land owners could vote[/b].[/QUOTE][U]Example supporting the OPs position[/U]

[I]While discussing the bill, State Sen. La Keisha Jackson said the original U.S. Constitution language doesnt directly address race and ethnicity when defining people. But, the Three-Fifths Compromise clause in the U.S. Constitution counted enslaved people as three-fifths of a person for purposes of representation and taxation, Jackson, D-Indianapolis, said.[/I]

[URL]https://www.chicagotribune.com/2025/04/29/backlash-erupts-after-indiana-lt-gov-calls-3-5-compromise-a-great-move/[/URL]

[B]I wonder if the Republican Morons dream of a return to those glory days when the (insert color of your choice here) man was on top![/B]

After all they had ALL the bitches! They didn't need to pay prostitutes. They had their (insert color of your choice here) girls in the house and their (insert color of your choice here) girls in the fields. SHIT! I lived like that I would want to go back to those days also. Being a MOTHER FUCKNG king on your plantation. Judge, Jury and Executioner all wrapped up in one. None of this messy democracy to deal with.

[QUOTE]Before an income tax and women could vote, the USA was the #1 economy in the world.[/QUOTE][B]America what a MOTHER FUCKING country![/B]

After that objective is achieved then you need to learn how to critically think. Something I see little of in the posts from our contingent of [U]Republican Morons[/U].

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3001884][URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/05/05/trump-promises-illegals-beautiful-flight-out-u-s-if-they-self-deport/[/URL][/QUOTE]No one is advocating for the illegal immigration.

[B]GIVE DUE PROCESS[/B] and [B]FOLLOW THE LAW[/B].

I happen to think we need immigration reform.

The conning of dumb Repub hillbillies and thereby fleecing of America has been a longtime effort by elites, billionaires, Globalists and the like:

[B]How billionaires created the DEI panic.
See the video too.
5/5/2025[/B]

[URL]https://www.mediamatters.org/critical-race-theory/video-how-billionaires-created-dei-panic[/URL]

[QUOTE][b]Wokeism[/b]

Reinventing the PC panic with cancel culture worked so well, why not do it again? A few months later, a new moral panic emerged on the right around wokeism.

The formula was exactly the same: Minorities have taken control, theyre silencing conservatives, you cant tell the truth anymore. And just like with political correctness and cancel culture, the wokeism panic was fueled by minor anecdotes amplified by right-wing media. A Fox News host announced that Lego is going woke, for instance, after the company unveiled a range of characters with disabilities.

(And so much more. See article)[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3001814]Nope, sorry, the US Constitution is for Americans not people who come to our country illegally and commit crimes, and when we were founded as a nation, we had slaves and only land owners could vote. Before an income tax and women could vote, the USA was the #1 economy in the world.

Everyone knows that the reason Biden opened up the border was to pay immigrants money so they could vote Democrat. That is not saving our country. Our forefathers knew that when citizens could vote themselves money as opposed to work for it, we were doomed.

If the world were able to sue China for damages from Covid, they would be poorer than when they joined the WTO. China is no miracle. They had the largest population and enticed businesses to locate there so they could sell to that market however American businesses had to partner with China. China steals their secrets and goes out on their own and produces things at a much lower cost hurting the original Western businesses. People were enticed by lower prices, and our supply chains were stupidly moved there. Slave wages and theft do not impress me.

China does not care about profits. The CCCP wants power. The reason that China is building so many empty cities is to keep people employed, and China is going into tremendous debt to do so. Demographically speaking, the one child policy will spell doom as their population is already older than America's. China is going the way of the last Asian economic miracle country which was Japan. Their debt will strangle them.

Not even close. China is hugely dependent on Middle East oil and does not have the navy to keep it flowing. That is why the USA is getting out of the world's policeman / super power role. We are no longer dependent on foreign oil. Foreign trade is more of a luxury than a necessity for the USA now. Everyone wants to sell in the USA market and with that comes power that Trump is using.

What is happening now is that Trump wants to bring production back to the USA. A lot of the manufacturing that will be being brought back to the USA will be with automation. The tariffs are put in place to negotiate better deals for the USA and to protect these newly formed manufacturers. You cannot have China and Vietnam dumping goods in at below cost to destroy these nascent industries. And we were bringing back supply chains even before Trump was in office. He is just accelerating the process.

Once we bring much of our production back to the USA, we will produce better goods than anywhere else.

Thing about the Chinese economic miracle is the people touting that do not live in China. It does not take anyone long to figure out China is hell once they are there. The civilized places are crowded as fuck. Twenty miles out of the city, and you are back in the Middle Ages. And the people who return from China are often sick from the food, air, and water.

Once the USA moves away from rewarding the people who do not produce anything like lawyers and hedge fund managers and starts to reward people who provide actual goods and services to the public, we will be fine, and that will happen.

By the way, the reason the market has been up the last 10 sessions or so is not just that Trump is striking deals, it is that the tariffs are not nearly as inflationary as the media is reporting, and the tariffs are needed to protect those investing in that new manufacturing.[/QUOTE]On the issue of due process and likely everything else pertinent to the current destruction of America by Trump and his MAGA slaves, the USA Constitution refers to "persons" in the country, not "citizens" in the country.

Oh, and this is why Joe Biden did not close the borders to perfectly USA Constirutionally-protected "persons" crossing the border during his historically successful economic recovery from yet another horrific Repub economic disaster. See report below.

BTW, the NYT also published extensive verified reports on this subject, how and why Biden's brilliant use of immigration contributed mightily to the reason America recovered faster and stronger from Trump's Pandemic than any other country, but our resident NYT subscriber who loves quoting entire articles from that and other media has mysteriously never bothered to post those particular subscriber-restricted reports. Probably just a MAGA oversight. LOL:

[B]How immigrants are helping keep job growth hot while inflation cools.
June 17, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/17/immigrants-help-economy-job-growth-inflation.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]Immigration has helped the U.S. job market sustain a fiery run in recent months without reigniting inflation, economists and analysts say.

The U.S. economy added a whopping 272,000 jobs in May, but the consumer price index was unchanged.

[B]This dynamic a hot job market and cooling inflation is in part the result of increased inflows of immigrants.[/b]

Recent spikes in immigration at the southern border and elsewhere in the U.S. have helped keep the labor pool full even as job gains kept apace.[/QUOTE]BTW, the reason the market rose modestly over the past 9 sessions or so is because it has merely been trading within the Sell-Off and Correction level Trump's disastrous trade wars and tariffs blather drove it down into "unlike anything anyone has ever seen" in the first 100 days of a presidential term other than under one other "American nightmare" Repub president. I'll leave the research for which one that was to you.

The market would have fallen much lower by now under Trump's Classic Repub Policies and Stewardship but for the fact that the Envy of the World Economy created by Biden-Harris and handed to Trump on a silver platter was too damn good to be destroyed so quickly and easily by an incoming Repub this time around.

But that Repub will sure as hell keep trying!

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3001809]Look up why President Nixon resigned.

The OP (who is a guest) needs to start by reading the Constitution of the United States of America. Babies learn this stuff in school. Grow men should already know it.

Remedial education is needed:

[URL]https://youtu.be/pKSGyiT-o3o?si=tM6qCtqr5ZiW2-U5[/URL]

[URL]https://youtu.be/SZ8psP4S6BQ?si=3nYqZ_4ibdZERHM9[/URL]

[URL]https://youtu.be/pKSGyiT-o3o?si=yuhid-ZVoLzBIcFM[/URL]

You are welcome![/QUOTE]I'm going to keep things really, really simple for you as I do sympathise with your cerebral challenges:

YOU: POTUS does not have to support the constitution.

ME: POTUS has sworn an oath to protect the constitution.

One of these statements is true. The other is necessarily false.

That's all there is to the matter. You don't need to thank me, and you certainly don't need to squeal like a piggy, boy.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3001814]Nope, sorry, the US Constitution is for Americans not people who come to our country illegally and commit crimes, and when we were founded as a nation, we had slaves and only land owners could vote. Before an income tax and women could vote, the USA was the #1 economy in the world.

Everyone knows that the reason Biden opened up the border was to pay immigrants money so they could vote Democrat. That is not saving our country. Our forefathers knew that when citizens could vote themselves money as opposed to work for it, we were doomed.

If the world were able to sue China for damages from Covid, they would be poorer than when they joined the WTO. China is no miracle. They had the largest population and enticed businesses to locate there so they could sell to that market however American businesses had to partner with China. China steals their secrets and goes out on their own and produces things at a much lower cost hurting the original Western businesses. People were enticed by lower prices, and our supply chains were stupidly moved there. Slave wages and theft do not impress me.

China does not care about profits. The CCCP wants power. The reason that China is building so many empty cities is to keep people employed, and China is going into tremendous debt to do so. Demographically speaking, the one child policy will spell doom as their population is already older than America's. China is going the way of the last Asian economic miracle country which was Japan. Their debt will strangle them.

Not even close. China is hugely dependent on Middle East oil and does not have the navy to keep it flowing. That is why the USA is getting out of the world's policeman / super power role. We are no longer dependent on foreign oil. Foreign trade is more of a luxury than a necessity for the USA now. Everyone wants to sell in the USA market and with that comes power that Trump is using.

What is happening now is that Trump wants to bring production back to the USA. A lot of the manufacturing that will be being brought back to the USA will be with automation. The tariffs are put in place to negotiate better deals for the USA and to protect these newly formed manufacturers. You cannot have China and Vietnam dumping goods in at below cost to destroy these nascent industries. And we were bringing back supply chains even before Trump was in office. He is just accelerating the process.

Once we bring much of our production back to the USA, we will produce better goods than anywhere else.

Thing about the Chinese economic miracle is the people touting that do not live in China. It does not take anyone long to figure out China is hell once they are there. The civilized places are crowded as fuck. Twenty miles out of the city, and you are back in the Middle Ages. And the people who return from China are often sick from the food, air, and water.

Once the USA moves away from rewarding the people who do not produce anything like lawyers and hedge fund managers and starts to reward people who provide actual goods and services to the public, we will be fine, and that will happen.

By the way, the reason the market has been up the last 10 sessions or so is not just that Trump is striking deals, it is that the tariffs are not nearly as inflationary as the media is reporting, and the tariffs are needed to protect those investing in that new manufacturing.[/QUOTE]The problem with your idea of who the constitution is for, Elvis, is that while it's easy to disregard its breach when it's in your favour it's not so great when the tables turn. The constitution isn't "for" anyone in general. It's literally an articulation of the fundamental principles governing a state.

Actually, I agree, China has stolen a lot of ideas and IP. So what? As if the west hasn't a history of exploitation of the world to advance. America (by your own admission) got it's break on slavery, and the UK and Western Europe expropriated unimaginable wealth from their colonies. My view is it is what it is, we all need to get off our own high horses. As for subsidies, for sure China has done these once again, so what? As if the west hasn't. You really think Boeing hasn't been vastly subsidised? Tesla? Airbus? It is what it is. None of this really negates the point I've made about China rivalling American supremacy.

With reference to the American Navy, there's zero % chance of America successfully compelling the Middle East or other oil producers from importing oil into China, upon which reliance is diminishing anyhow as they are going renewable at a breakneck speed. The only relevance of the American military is on Taiwan. Military strategists admit themselves that within 5-7 years they will no longer have the upper hand here. I do not approve of China's Taiwanese stance- I'm just laying the facts out.

On tariffs, there is again a zero % chance of America "bringing home production". Firstly, it's not something you can just flip a switch on. A lot of the production capabilities require great skill and expertise, which America simply lacks. Secondly, these kinds of facilities take decades to build and most importantly, even if you could bring back production (you can't and won't) the cost would be massively prohibitive. Your Iphone would double in price. That's why they're shifting to India. It's not going to happen.

The tariffs haven't affected inflation yet because they haven't kicked in. Let's touch base at Christmas. But we know they won't even then because Trump will cave in to China. He's caved in so much already they should call him the Caveman.

Look, the bottom line is on one side you have a multiple bankrupt who wrote "the Art of the Deal", yet displays a total lack of understanding of how to do a deal, having alienated friends and empowered enemies. On the other side you have a 5000 year civilisation which wrote "the Art of War". I know who my money is on.

Oh, those poor MAGA manufacturers and farmers who are the hardest hit today while their American Working Men and Women Consumer customers will most definitely be hit even harder in the next few weeks and beyond. Well, as long as Trump or any other Trumpian Repub is in the White House, that is.

[B]Trump tariffs slump widens to 'nearly all USA Exports,' supply chain data says.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/06/trump-tariffs-hit-us-exports-import-covid-level-event.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]An exports slide that began in early 2025 has reached most ports across the U.S. and nearly all export market products as the trade impact of President Trumps tariffs worsens, with agriculture the hardest hit.

As businesses cancel orders from China, U.S. imports continue to plummet, with a 43% week-over-week drop in containers through April 28.

We havent seen anything like this since the disruptions of summer 2020, said Kyle Henderson, CEO of trade tracker Vizion.
..........
[B]What began as a rapid drop in U.S. imports as shippers cut orders from manufacturing partners around the world has now extended into a nationwide export slump, with the U.S. agricultural sector and top farm products including soybeans, corn, and beef taking the hardest hit.[/b][/QUOTE]Dispite what the MAGAs' favorite and most beloved America-hating con man tries to con you into thinking, this isn't just about dolls and pencils, folks.

[QUOTE=HotDog666;3001997]The problem with your idea of who the constitution is for, Elvis, is that while it's easy to disregard its breach when it's in your favour it's not so great when the tables turn. The constitution isn't "for" anyone in general. It's literally an articulation of the fundamental principles governing a state.

Actually, I agree, China has stolen a lot of ideas and IP. So what? As if the west hasn't a history of exploitation of the world to advance. America (by your own admission) got it's break on slavery, and the UK and Western Europe expropriated unimaginable wealth from their colonies. My view is it is what it is, we all need to get off our own high horses. As for subsidies, for sure China has done these once again, so what? As if the west hasn't. You really think Boeing hasn't been vastly subsidised? Tesla? Airbus? It is what it is. None of this really negates the point I've made about China rivalling American supremacy.

With reference to the American Navy, there's zero % chance of America successfully compelling the Middle East or other oil producers from importing oil into China, upon which reliance is diminishing anyhow as they are going renewable at a breakneck speed. The only relevance of the American military is on Taiwan. Military strategists admit themselves that within 5-7 years they will no longer have the upper hand here. I do not approve of China's Taiwanese stance- I'm just laying the facts out.[/QUOTE]To add to this- yes, the debt fuelled real estate build is one of the dumbest things the CCP has presided over and it's destroyed trillions of $ in this. It's had and will continue to have a significant drag on their economic performance. However, I don't see their following the Japanese into a deflationary spiral for two reasons: firstly, they have an immense amount of dry powder being the world's biggest debtor and the world's biggest saver. In fact this is their biggest weakness in that they just save way too much and consume too little, but it's also their biggest strength with regards to America being the world's biggest creditor. Who would you rather be given the choice? The second reason is admittedly less objective but still valid: it's their culture. They unlike the Japanese who have succumbed to a westernesque complacency, have still a chip on their shoulder, something to prove, a hunger and a drive and passion that the Japanese abandoned a long time ago. They are still suffering from the humiliation of the opium wars and a burning desire to wash off that humiliation through growth. They do this through both noble and ignoble means in my experience. The latter is how they waste food to indicate their wealth (the trauma of starvation from the 60's still lives in the national psyche) and this is something I've been very unimpressed by.

Regardless, underestimating the Chinese is something I would strongly advise against. They have shown time and time again the ability to reinvent and to out do the ROW on whatever they set their minds too. Musk literally laughed at them 10 years ago when someone suggested BYD was a threat and yet now he runs to his temp bro Trump pleading for tariffs saying that Tesla would be destroyed if BYD were allowed in. Napoleon warned " don't wake the sleeping dragon for when it wakes it will shake the world". Well the dragon is wide awake and the onus is on America now to determine how it deals with this, we all will bear the consequences of your strategy.

[QUOTE=HotDog666;3002043]To add to this- yes, the debt fuelled real estate build is one of the dumbest things the CCP has presided over and it's destroyed trillions of $ in this. It's had and will continue to have a significant drag on their economic performance. However, I don't see their following the Japanese into a deflationary spiral for two reasons: firstly, they have an immense amount of dry powder being the world's biggest debtor and the world's biggest saver. In fact this is their biggest weakness in that they just save way too much and consume too little, but it's also their biggest strength with regards to America being the world's biggest creditor. Who would you rather be given the choice? The second reason is admittedly less objective but still valid: it's their culture. They unlike the Japanese who have succumbed to a westernesque complacency, have still a chip on their shoulder, something to prove, a hunger and a drive and passion that the Japanese abandoned a long time ago. They are still suffering from the humiliation of the opium wars and a burning desire to wash off that humiliation through growth. They do this through both noble and ignoble means in my experience. The latter is how they waste food to indicate their wealth (the trauma of starvation from the 60's still lives in the national psyche) and this is something I've been very unimpressed by.

Regardless, underestimating the Chinese is something I would strongly advise against. They have shown time and time again the ability to reinvent and to out do the ROW on whatever they set their minds too. Musk literally laughed at them 10 years ago when someone suggested BYD was a threat and yet now he runs to his temp bro Trump pleading for tariffs saying that Tesla would be destroyed if BYD were allowed in. Napoleon warned " don't wake the sleeping dragon for when it wakes it will shake the world". Well the dragon is wide awake and the onus is on America now to determine how it deals with this, we all will bear the consequences of your strategy.[/QUOTE]Maybe even you aren't that STOOPID.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goEU7C1xmis[/URL]

[QUOTE=HotDog666;3001990]You don't need to thank me, and you certainly don't need to squeal like a piggy, boy.[/QUOTE]Impossible to have a conversation with someone only interested in engaging in [B]ad hominem[/B] attacks.

[QUOTE=HotDog666;2997189]As for Mahmud Khalil, he was and is a US permanent resident, not a guest.[/QUOTE][U]Perment Resident[/U]

[QUOTE]Another important limitation on lawful permanent residents is that they are subject to the grounds of deportability. If you commit certain crimes or security violations, or even fail to advise USCIS of your changes of address, you can be placed in removal proceedings and deported from the United States[/QUOTE]Not a citizen. Got sideways with the law. Currently going through the [B]DUE PROCESS[/B] allowed for him to fight the deportation process.

[B]Over simplification and failure to read and understand the law of the land (in this case the Dis-United States of America) causes lack of understanding of the legal processes that occur in that land.[/B]

[QUOTE=HotDog666;3001773]"Don't wrestle with a pig, you both get dirty and the pig enjoys it", urged George Bernard Shaw. On this occasion I'll opt to disregard his wise words. Try reading it slowly.[/QUOTE]It does not matter how slowly I read something. If POTUS does not uphold his OATH there is recourse available as laid out in the the Constitution of the United States of America.

I don't need to read that document. Because I as a child I received instruction on it. I carried it around while I was under oath. When I need to refer to it I pull up quotes from it on the internet because I know exactly what it says and the provisions therein.

[U]Impeachment[/U]

[QUOTE]The United States Constitution provides that the House of Representatives "shall have the sole Power of Impeachment" (Article I, section 2) and "the Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments but no person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two-thirds of the Members present" (Article I, section 3). The president, vice president, and all civil officers of the United States are subject to impeachment.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.senate.gov/about/powers-procedures/impeachment.htm[/URL]

If you are a guest and you get sideways with the law you are going to get deported. If you are arguing the fine point of Constitutional Law with a citizen of the Dis-United States of America you are going to have to back up your statements with quotes from the Constitution. Over simplification is your problem HotDog666. Start with the what the Constitution says then the law.

[B]You are entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts[/B]

[QUOTE=HotDog666;2997717]Touched a soft spot there, hey Stephen? Four posts in quick succession, one on another thread with your characteristic inanity more relatable to a 16 year old than a 60+ year old- oh and if you want to know why you're an imbecile, ask on the right thread otherwise you err. Come across as an imbecile.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HotDog666;3002043]Regardless, underestimating the Chinese is something I would strongly advise against. They have shown time and time again the ability to reinvent and to out do the ROW on whatever they set their minds too. Musk literally laughed at them 10 years ago when someone suggested BYD was a threat and yet now he runs to his temp bro Trump pleading for tariffs saying that Tesla would be destroyed if BYD were allowed in. [/QUOTE]Actually a point of agreement. Several of my fellow Americans speak of China without knowledge or facts of the situation. I have to admit to ignorance until I spend extensive time on this side of the world. China exports products to the entire world. I have seen BYD vehicles up close and in person as I have been picked up in them when I have had the occasion to use the Bolt ride service. They roll fire equipment off the line faster and for much lower cost than companies in the United States of America. USA Fire Departments cannot buy Chinese Equipment by law. China exports them to the rest of the world. They have a new commercial airliner that will be available for customers on this side of the world.

Lastly, I have taken up motorcycling late in like. Some people like to point to my age as a problem. I consider my an age a badge of honor and say to younger people [I]better hope you live at least as long as I have[/I]. Anyway I digress. Chinese motorcycle are hitting the market with high quality, more tech, more power, lest cost. Way less cost than other manufacturers. The USA is a big market. But for China it is not the only market out there.

As for the predicted decline in the USA, it is already happening. But like anything else in life a turn around is possible. Don't know if I will live long enough to see who wins that bet. But is does not matter. I am excising my Constitutional rights and pursuing my happiness.

I give credit where credit is due. I have no need to engage in [B]ad hominem[/B] attacks. I got facts on my side.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3001949]On the issue of due process and likely everything else pertinent to the current destruction of America by Trump and his MAGA slaves, the USA Constitution refers to "persons" in the country, not "citizens" in the country.

Oh, and this is why Joe Biden did not close the borders to perfectly USA Constirutionally-protected "persons" crossing the border during his historically successful economic recovery from yet another horrific Repub economic disaster. See report below.

BTW, the NYT also published extensive verified reports on this subject, how and why Biden's brilliant use of immigration contributed mightily to the reason America recovered faster and stronger from Trump's Pandemic than any other country, but our resident NYT subscriber who loves quoting entire articles from that and other media has mysteriously never bothered to post those particular subscriber-restricted reports. Probably just a MAGA oversight. LOL:

[B]How immigrants are helping keep job growth hot while inflation cools.
June 17, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/17/immigrants-help-economy-job-growth-inflation.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

BTW, the reason the market rose modestly over the past 9 sessions or so is because it has merely been trading within the Sell-Off and Correction level Trump's disastrous trade wars and tariffs blather drove it down into "unlike anything anyone has ever seen" in the first 100 days of a presidential term other than under one other "American nightmare" Repub president. I'll leave the research for which one that was to you.

The market would have fallen much lower by now under Trump's Classic Repub Policies and Stewardship but for the fact that the Envy of the World Economy created by Biden-Harris and handed to Trump on a silver platter was too damn good to be destroyed so quickly and easily by an incoming Repub this time around.

But that Repub will sure as hell keep trying![/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUWTL1WRq7c[/URL]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3002006]Oh, those poor MAGA manufacturers and farmers who are the hardest hit today while their American Working Men and Women Consumer customers will most definitely be hit even harder in the next few weeks and beyond. Well, as long as Trump or any other Trumpian Repub is in the White House, that is.

[B]Trump tariffs slump widens to 'nearly all USA Exports,' supply chain data says.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/06/trump-tariffs-hit-us-exports-import-covid-level-event.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

Dispite what the MAGAs' favorite and most beloved America-hating con man tries to con you into thinking, this isn't just about dolls and pencils, folks.[/QUOTE]And he was going to completely destroy the turds, the only thing I wasnt expecting was at the speed and ease he is destroying the pathetic left! (ala Potemkin Village ala CCPland).

Allahu Akbar MOFOS.

Donald J Trump 2025 aka Blitzkrieg on steroids.

Musk has caused problems at Newark Airport for a week now. Decreasing staff and cutting off funding for new equipment that would shore up the technology that the Air Traffic Controllers use to keep planes separated and safe in the air. FAA is putting ground holds on planes leaving from and leaving for Newark. Causing a snarl in the movement of aircraft that was a well oiled machine before Musk took his chainsaw to FAA operations.

[QUOTE=HotDog666;3001990]That's all there is to the matter. You don't need to thank me, and you certainly don't need to squeal like a piggy,[b] boy[/b].[/QUOTE]A guest in my county of the Dis-United States of America like the dumb mother fuck you keep mentioning should have known the law and followed it. If he did not know the law he should have been advised by his immigration attorney that he used to get his permanent residence status in the first place. Oh, he didn't have an attorney, so sorry for him. That is just plan stupid.

I have an attorney in every country where I am engaged in activities of a legal nature. In other words, where I am not JUST a tourist. That number totals 4 different countries at this point in my life.

[QUOTE=HotDog666;3001990]I'm going to keep things really, really simple for you as I do sympathise with your cerebral challenges[/QUOTE]The only cerebral challenge I present to anyone is to those that do not have their facts straight. Remind you of anyone you know?

[B]ROTFLMAO![/B]

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3001724]Ok Spidy so we have a member of the party that houses racists under the guise of being conservatives saying [I]Social Security[/I] is a hand out. Why do they continue to repeat that lie? You and I know why. It is because they are hopeful individuals will not call them on their misinformation (actually lies). No matter how many times they say it the facts don't change. My fellow Americans have paid into Social Security. Where is the hand out? Those same Americans also pay the taxes that fund the rest of the expenses on your list.

[B]It is the fault of the Article I branch of the USGOV that debt exists.[/B]

Who is receiving [I]Social Security[/I] that was not a productive citizen before they began to receive it? Are individuals of the party that harbors (you know what) really that incapable of reasoning and rational thought? Or are they just numerically impaired.

Last question: I wonder out loud if the same people calling Social Security a hand out will also collect it when their times comes? They need to say yes.

[B]Don't lie mother fucks![/B][/QUOTE]

Oh sure, they would! Bet your ass, just like many of those conservative robber barons, would just love to privatize Social Security (SS).

No doubt in privatized hands, IMHO, it would be, tantamount to an insidious financial ruin of SS and in spectacular fashion. Much like the elder, being short changed, and bamboozled by so called Medicare Advantage and healthcare insurance.

But the idea to privatize SS, under the typical guise that "the private financial industry would better manage SS" has been a long standing [b]"honey pot",[/b] they'd love to get their greedy, malicious, pilfering, grifting and inevitable bankruptcy hands on.

The ravenous, greedy robber barons, under their Fuhrer's institution gutting admin, may well get their wish w/r to social security. But like the "too big to fail" banks, the robber barons know, that should they get their ugly mitts on SS, that after the inevitably gutting, raping and pillaging of SS, the gov't would bail them out, in a [i][b]"too big to fail"[/b][/i] bank like fashion.

After every financial intermediary, management and administrative accountant has "pick the pockets" of SS and taken "their cut" or "fees", for so called "managing" Social Security, all that left in the end, is a hallowed husk, on their way out the door.

This is how, for many libertarians or conservatives, privatizing SS is a step toward dismantling "the welfare state" entirely and the so called "handouts"!

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3002084][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUWTL1WRq7c[/URL][/QUOTE]Even Trump-appointed judges are disagreeing with your lord and savior about that "invasion" bullshit.

It turns out there was never an "emergency" at the border to justify ultra warmonger Trump declaring War Against Venezuela or any other country.

In fact, that blithering, blathering, fat fuck liar just totally destroyed his entire case for deporting USA Constitutionally-protected persons in America to El Salvador concentration camps in that hilariously pathetic Meet The Press interview when he rhapsodized about how wonderfully safe the border is now, "unlike any safe border anyone has ever seen. ".

Lololol.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3002097]And he was going to completely destroy the turds, the only thing I wasnt expecting was at the speed and ease he is destroying the pathetic left! ala Potemkin Village ala CCPland.

Allahu Akbar MOFOS.

Donald J Trump 2025 aka Blitzkrieg on steroids.[/QUOTE]We can tell the fact that you have been completely and mercilessly conned and suckered by the Greatest Pro Elite Globalist President of All Time is finally starting to penetrate and dawn on that MAGA noggin of yours. Good for you.

Yes, you will pass through a painful period of feeling utterly betrayed by one of the most blatantly obvious numbskull grifters in history. As you should. But eventually you will no doubt emerge from that as a much more discerning self-destructive lemming. LOL.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3001932]The conning of dumb Repub hillbillies and thereby fleecing of America has been a longtime effort by elites, billionaires, Globalists and the like:

[B]How billionaires created the DEI panic.
See the video too.
5/5/2025[/B]

[URL]https://www.mediamatters.org/critical-race-theory/video-how-billionaires-created-dei-panic[/URL][/QUOTE]

Thanks, much appreciated! Both the article and video, were very good!

Very well explained and narrated, how the role of the right-wing billionaire robber baron class, [u]is there to amplify the backlash,[/u] w/r to the progress and success, for example of President Obama and minority groups, with their dark money funded, political PACs and right-wing think tanks (ie. Heritage Foundation or Manhattan Institute) and media propaganda outlets, like Fox News.

From the 1990's manufactured moral panic over “political correctness”, to 2025's D.E.I. backlash, it's one ginned-up, boogeyman culture-war after another:

• Political Correctness (PC)
• Cancel Culture
• Wokeism
• Critical Race Theory (CRT)

And the latest, pejorative assault, on minorities;

• D.E.I.

The rinse and repeat cycle of the right-wing "culture-wars" and PC boogeyman merry-go-around, perpetrated by the billionaire robber baron class, so as to easily "pick-the-pockets" of the gullible MAGA/Repub working class, while further enriching themselves, from the ensuing polarization and things like failed Trump Tariff Taxes (TTT).

[b]Before Wokeness, There Was “Political Correctness”[/b], June 16, 2022
[url]https://inthesetimes.com/article/wokeness-political-correctness-dirtbag-left-capitalism-pc-cancel-identity-politics[/url]

[u]This cycle thrives on manufactured outrage to obscure economic grievances.[/u] As Barbara Epstein, observed in the 1990s, fears about "American culture disintegrating" were channeled into anti-PC rhetoric rather than critiques of capitalism and a greater, better and more egalitarian society, we'd rather live in.

[QUOTE=HotDog666;3002043]To add to this- yes, the debt fuelled real estate build is one of the dumbest things the CCP has presided over and it's destroyed trillions of $ in this. It's had and will continue to have a significant drag on their economic performance. However, I don't see their following the Japanese into a deflationary spiral for two reasons: firstly, they have an immense amount of dry powder being the world's biggest debtor and the world's biggest saver. In fact this is their biggest weakness in that they just save way too much and consume too little, but it's also their biggest strength with regards to America being the world's biggest creditor. Who would you rather be given the choice? The second reason is admittedly less objective but still valid: it's their culture. They unlike the Japanese who have succumbed to a westernesque complacency, have still a chip on their shoulder, something to prove, a hunger and a drive and passion that the Japanese abandoned a long time ago. They are still suffering from the humiliation of the opium wars and a burning desire to wash off that humiliation through growth. They do this through both noble and ignoble means in my experience. The latter is how they waste food to indicate their wealth (the trauma of starvation from the 60's still lives in the national psyche) and this is something I've been very unimpressed by.

Regardless, underestimating the Chinese is something I would strongly advise against. They have shown time and time again the ability to reinvent and to out do the ROW on whatever they set their minds too. Musk literally laughed at them 10 years ago when someone suggested BYD was a threat and yet now he runs to his temp bro Trump pleading for tariffs saying that Tesla would be destroyed if BYD were allowed in. Napoleon warned " don't wake the sleeping dragon for when it wakes it will shake the world". Well the dragon is wide awake and the onus is on America now to determine how it deals with this, we all will bear the consequences of your strategy.[/QUOTE]LOL. I think you are talking about illegals and "due process". The Democratic douches want to give illegals the same rights as citizens. That does not exist. This is from a lawyer who has been talking on MSNBC. [URL]https://dannycevallos.substack.com/p/how-much-due-process-is-actually[/URL].

Most nations do not grant citizenship to women who have their children in their country. If you have your baby in Japan, unlike in the USA, the baby is not a Japanese citizen. The law that allowed pregnant Mexican women to cross the border and have their kids here and become American citizens is the 14th Amendment. The reason for the 14th Amendment was Southern states after the Civil war tried to deny citizenship to slaves. As they should have, lower courts have upheld the law giving citizenship to these birthed citizens as it is above their pay grade. Eventually, the Supreme Court will tackle this. To me, it is a no brainer to plug this hole. American citizenship has been valued in the millions and it should not just be given away as a right to a child whose parent is breaking the law.

The funny thing is I think Republicans are more pro-immigrant than Democrats. We just want legal and productive citizens and not the criminals that cross the border and whose only talents are selling drugs and voting Democrat.

As for China, a lot of countries have done well moving from the farm to the factory. China is in debt up to their eyeballs. Someone is paying for those empty cities, and the federal government of China has pushed the debt to the state and local level. Unlike Japan, there is no free flow of currency into the dollar and Euro, and the Chinese people have had little alternative other than to pile into real estate, and the Chinese lie their asses off with economic data, [URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/beijing-stops-publishing-hundreds-statistics-cover-economic-collapse[/URL].

American savings are immense. They are just in the bond and stock market not banks, so I do not make that big of a deal with Americans and their lack of "savings".

While you acknowledge the real estate bubble, I do not think you get how bad it is. The rule of thumb used to be when buying a house you take your income and double it, so the price to income ratio should be 2. That is your house would cost double your income if you put every dollar you earned into your hose.

One reason and perhaps THE reason the great Biden economy is such a lie is that prices of stocks and real estate rose but not income with housing and not earnings with the stock market. When prices go up but not income or earnings, that is just money printing at work.

Now look at price to income ratios around the world. New York is fucking crazy at 14, but Shangai is at 34, and that is down from what it was. But you have Phoenix at 4 and Orlando and Dallas at 3, and you can see why everyone is moving there from New York and California. China is nowhere near done dealing with their real estate bubble.

Usually their home is the biggest asset most people own. You mention monetary policies and deflation but the root cause of deflation is falling demand, and that is a natural consequence of aging. Once people quit being parents, demand falls down. China is in the first inning of its deflationary bubble.

Japan and Western complacency? Come on, man. Japan kicked China's butt in WW2 and even today, Japan is way more organized, productive, and safe than China. Japan's issue is they are the oldest nation in the world. The first thing that happens when you go from the country to the city is kids go from being free labor to an expense. The USA has not followed that path. We have adjusted to lower births by allowing immigration. Like I said, the difference between Republicans and Democrats is not over immigration. It is over illegal immigration. For God's sake, Trump is on his second foreign wife.

And yeah, Japan made shit cars in the 1970's and upped their game in the 1980's. I remember being blown away by the Datsun 280 ZX in the 80's just like Chinese cars are blowing me away today. This is a wakeup call not just for American car companies but the world's car companies.

As for bringing home production, that was already happening after Covid. Trump is just accelerating that trend. I do not get this crap with stuff doubling in price. Iphones could be made in the USA for $30 more not double and with most goods, the cost of labor is tiny.

Some guy with TDS was saying the USA could not make shoes. I was laughing. Since when can the USA not make fucking shoes? Henry Ford invented the assembly line. A guy who looked into making shoes said an automated USA factory could produce shoes for 7% more than not China but even lower cost Vietnam. Once the right incentives are in place, I am sure the USA can produce not just equal but better quality shoes than Vietnam for less.

Do you think anyone in 2004 was saying the USA would be self sufficient in crude oil fifteen years later? How did that happen? Did Americans just trip over oil? We developed a new way to drill for crude which went from being expensive to cost effective. China has huge shale reserves, and they have not been able to tap into them in any meaningful way, and all you talk about is Western complacency.

You think the USA cannot build phone and shoe factories but China can get off oil and coal at break net speed? Please! Here are the numbers.

[URL]https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=64544[/URL] China's refiners imported 11.1 million be / the of crude oil and processed 14.2 million be / the. Both crude oil imports and refinery runs decreased in China from record levels in 2023, when the country imported 11.3 million be / the of crude oil and processed 14.8 million be / the.

In 2023, China's coal consumption reached 91.94 exajoules, marking a new high. In 2022, China's coal consumption grew by 4. 6 percent to a new all-time high of 4. 5 billion metric tons, nearly nine times higher than the United States.

Coal consumption went down in 2024 like oil did but there is nothing break net about that reduction, and China is the biggest coal importer in the world. If China invades Taiwan, the American navy cuts off China's crude and coal and their economy tanks in days.

I think I am realistic on China. It has huge issues that the USA does not have. Most of American's foreign policy was based on energy security and oil importation. We no longer have that issue and China does, and for some reason, you just want to blow that off. What happened with American oil production will happen in manufacturing. There were more cynics on oil production, I called them the peak oil nuts, then there are cynics on manufacturing. If Americans have the right incentive system, we can do almost anything better than anyone.

[QUOTE][b]You love rimming Xi so much why don't you live there[/b][/QUOTE]Just because you can see how a place is doing things in a superior fashion over the Dis-United States of America does not mean that you want to live there.

I like to ride motorcycles.

[U]The Chinese Take Over[/U]

[URL]https://youtu.be/m7zShYw3Snw?si=ZJKtYYKuS12cP2Ob[/URL]

But related to your point, A passport from China is currently better than the passport from the Dis-United State of America I currently hold.

[URL]https://youtu.be/151X9hkzD-I?si=4HJEZe8U7I8IJepi[/URL]

Now Musk through a legal maneuver is attempting to gain control of a State Park in Texas: Boca Chica Beach.

Space X has proposed incorporating the area which would give them control of the State Park within their jurisdiction.

The vote has been approved. They are going to name their new town [B]Spaceport[/B].

How did Musk convince people to come live on his corporate plantation? [B]Are my fellow citizens so dumb they dont realize they are economic slaves?[/B].

[QUOTE=Spidy;3002189]Thanks, much appreciated! Both the article and video, were very good!

Very well explained and narrated, how the role of the right-wing billionaire robber baron class, [u]is there to amplify the backlash,[/u] w/r to the progress and success, for example of President Obama and minority groups, with their dark money funded, political PACs and right-wing think tanks (ie. Heritage Foundation or Manhattan Institute) and media propaganda outlets, like Fox News.

From the 1990's manufactured moral panic over political correctness, to 2025's D.E.I. backlash, it's one ginned-up, boogeyman culture-war after another:

Political Correctness (PC)
Cancel Culture
Wokeism
Critical Race Theory (CRT)

And the latest, pejorative assault, on minorities;

D.E.I.

The rinse and repeat cycle of the right-wing "culture-wars" and PC boogeyman merry-go-around, perpetrated by the billionaire robber baron class, so as to easily "pick-the-pockets" of the gullible MAGA/Repub working class, while further enriching themselves, from the ensuing polarization and things like failed Trump Tariff Taxes (TTT).

[b]Before Wokeness, There Was Political Correctness[/b], June 16, 2022
[url]https://inthesetimes.com/article/wokeness-political-correctness-dirtbag-left-capitalism-pc-cancel-identity-politics[/url]

[u]This cycle thrives on manufactured outrage to obscure economic grievances.[/u] As Barbara Epstein, observed in the 1990s, fears about "American culture disintegrating" were channeled into anti-PC rhetoric rather than critiques of capitalism and a greater, better and more egalitarian society, we'd rather live in.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2025/04/so_it_s_true_dei_seems_to_have_gotten_70_people_killed_over_the_potomac_report.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2025/04/the_illegal_alien_raid_in_colorado_reveals_a_cancer_in_our_military.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2025/04/forget_trump_s_blue_suit_what_about_those_so_called_transgender_mourners_at_the_pope_s_funeral.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3002248]LOL. I think you are talking about illegals and "due process". The Democratic douches want to give illegals the same rights as citizens. That does not exist. This is from a lawyer who has been talking on MSNBC. [URL]https://dannycevallos.substack.com/p/how-much-due-process-is-actually[/URL].

Most nations do not grant citizenship to women who have their children in their country. If you have your baby in Japan, unlike in the USA, the baby is not a Japanese citizen. The law that allowed pregnant Mexican women to cross the border and have their kids here and become American citizens is the 14th Amendment. The reason for the 14th Amendment was Southern states after the Civil war tried to deny citizenship to slaves. As they should have, lower courts have upheld the law giving citizenship to these birthed citizens as it is above their pay grade. Eventually, the Supreme Court will tackle this. To me, it is a no brainer to plug this hole. American citizenship has been valued in the millions and it should not just be given away as a right to a child whose parent is breaking the law.

The funny thing is I think Republicans are more pro-immigrant than Democrats. We just want legal and productive citizens and not the criminals that cross the border and whose only talents are selling drugs and voting Democrat.

As for China, a lot of countries have done well moving from the farm to the factory. China is in debt up to their eyeballs. Someone is paying for those empty cities, and the federal government of China has pushed the debt to the state and local level. Unlike Japan, there is no free flow of currency into the dollar and Euro, and the Chinese people have had little alternative other than to pile into real estate, and the Chinese lie their asses off with economic data, [URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/beijing-stops-publishing-hundreds-statistics-cover-economic-collapse[/URL]..[/QUOTE]The Wall St slave masters / goons have tired of the [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] they put in charge over there, he's overdo for a coup any day now.

RIP Winnie the Pooh.

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/06/opinion/china-taiwan-xi-jinping.html[/URL]

[URL]https://asiatimes.com/2025/05/chinas-economy-on-cusp-of-a-deflationary-death-spiral/[/URL]

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3002269][URL]https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2025/04/so_it_s_true_dei_seems_to_have_gotten_70_people_killed_over_the_potomac_report.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2025/04/the_illegal_alien_raid_in_colorado_reveals_a_cancer_in_our_military.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2025/04/forget_trump_s_blue_suit_what_about_those_so_called_transgender_mourners_at_the_pope_s_funeral.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Are you happy to live in a country almost all, except criminal Netanyahou, but others in the world hate now and find shameful. People in Europe trying but not succeeding despite big discount, to get rid of their Tesla, when they feel too shameful. New image of USA is big shame, but not quality. Pity, when I'm sure some Americans, with brain, worth a better image. How could Trump be elected again and after January 2021? Incredible. How could women, Latins and Black vote for him? When he hate them.

Funny, Tesla thinking about thermic engine for Europe? When down under sales, but because of Musk image. We had enough facists in Europe in past, we don't need him.

Oh look. Another War has erupted in the World on the watch of a president who himself claims and his lemming Cult Followers insist is a "Man of Peace and there were no wars during his previous presidency", even though at least three wars raged on his watch including one he himself started against America on American soil.

[B]Trump offers to help resolve conflict between India and Pakistan.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/07/trump-india-pakistan-kashmir.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3002274]The Wall St slave masters / goons have tired of the they put in charge over there, he's overdo for a coup any day now.

RIP Winnie the Pooh.

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/06/opinion/china-taiwan-xi-jinping.html[/URL]

[URL]https://asiatimes.com/2025/05/chinas-economy-on-cusp-of-a-deflationary-death-spiral/[/URL][/QUOTE]Producer prices have fallen for 29 consecutive months. March's figures showed the sharpest drop in four months, and forecasts point to an even steeper decline in April."

Yep, there is no deflation in sight. All is well in China. LOL. They have no incentive to negotiate. / sarc.

In all seriousness, I have not been to China as often as other family members (what I saw was enough), and I was talking to one and he told me about China and the mandate from Heaven. I honestly thought was a joke but apparently it is a real thing. This is from google AI:

The concept of the Mandate of Heaven, a traditional Chinese political ideology, has been invoked in discussions about the legitimacy of Xi Jinping's rule in China. According to this doctrine, a ruler's authority is granted by divine approval and is contingent upon their ability to govern wisely and justly. If a ruler fails to do so, they can lose the mandate, leading to potential revolts or changes in leadership.

Some scholars and commentators argue that Xi Jinping's legitimacy as a ruler is linked to the Mandate of Heaven, emphasizing his role in leading China into the "New Era" and promoting "common prosperity. " They suggest that his performance in office, particularly his efforts to strengthen China's economy and international standing, supports his claim to the mandate. For instance, Xi's third term as Chinese President was cemented at the 20th National Congress of the Communist Party of China in October 2022.

However, others contend that Xi Jinping has not been chosen by the Chinese people to rule, and therefore does not have the Mandate of Heaven. They argue that the mandate is derived from the people's approval and that Xi's ascent to power was not through democratic means.

The idea of the Mandate of Heaven continues to influence Chinese politics and society, even though the current system is not directly based on this ancient concept. The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) has adapted the notion to justify its rule and Xi's leadership, emphasizing performance legitimacy and the need for stability and prosperity.

End of link.

I had thought of Xi as an iron dictator incapable of being taken out, but apparently all that needs to happen is the people just believe he is not heaven's choice, and the people and party turn their backs on him. It is also interesting that he is having issues with the military.

This guy Peter Zeihan gets his information straight from the CIA and apparently Xi only likes yes men around him. So it makes sense at first he told Trump to piss off, but I think he got a lot of flak from people telling him he had to negotiate or the Chinese economy would tank.

If the Chinese economy collapses, and God should it ever, it looks like Xi will be on his way out.

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;3001816]That you use the term your tax dollars as opposed to OUR tax dollars says it all. [/QUOTE]

Nitpicking at semantics over a quote, from an article entitled, [b]"What Do Your Taxes Pay For?"[/b]...is pathetic! Is that all you got? [i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i] Can you be any more pathetic?

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;3001816]It is time to come clean. How much are you getting from the government Spidy and how much are you spending on hookers? This act that you are playing that the tax dollars you spend on hookers is the same as building and maintaining roads is getting old. You are using my tax dollars to pay for your hookers versus your going out on your own and working is your being a parasite. How about doing something productive and earn your own money versus being a parasite?[/QUOTE]

Don't forget, you are of course, the [i][b]"Paycheck Superhero",[/b][/i] in your own mind and world of [i][b]"Two in three tax dollars goes to someone else."[/b][/i]

But I can see how you would be confused, since the billionaire robber baron class, have picked your pickets clean, are not paying their fair share of taxes and have largely left the payment of said taxes, to that of the hobbled and hallowed-out middle-class and "Paycheck Superheroes" like yourself. But fear not, once the Dems are back in power, I'm sure they'll maybe raise the tax rates on the billionaire robber baron class, to put things right.

In the meantime, take some advice and when one of YOUR heroes, and one of the biggest, baddest and world's richest investor man, says he doesn't mind paying his taxes, unlike fakeass "Paycheck Superheroes" or online/chatroom wannabes, such as yourself,...perhaps [b]YOU SHOULD LISTEN![/b]

I'll let the G.O.A.T. investor, Warren Buffet, explain it to y'all, MAGA chatroom wannabes:
[list][i][b]Warren Buffett Paid $5 Billion In Taxes [/b] And Says If 800 Other Companies Paid Their Share, No One Else Would Have To 'Pay A Dime'[/i] [url]https://finance.yahoo.com/news/warren-buffett-paid-5-billion-150020350.html[/url][/list]Fantastic quote by the GOAT! Now that tells you everything you need to know, about how the billionaire robber baron class, have conned, hoodwinked and suckered you MAGA imbeciles into thinking, [i]"Two in three tax dollars goes to someone else".[/i]

Again, the problem is the billionaire robber baron class, have you gullible MAGA imbeciles, so duped, bamboozled and confused, your lashing out at the wrong people. [b][i]Your fellow hardworking Americans aren't YOUR so called "parasites",[/i][/b] but rather the billionaire robber baron class, who continue at will, [u]to pick your ignorant MAGA pockets clean.[/u]

Close, but not quite! LMAO!

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3001881][b]41 million parasites in another, should I continue [/b]

[URL]https://www.cbpp.org/research/food-assistance/the-supplemental-nutrition-assistance-program-snap[/URL][/QUOTE]No, allow me!

And the $29 Trillion dollar [b]billionaire robber baron banker "parasites"[/b] of 2008, fraudulent mortgage subprime lending financial debacle and fiasco?

[URL]https://www.levyinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/op_23.pdf[/URL]

So Trump cuts a deal with the United Kingdom to lower tariffs on Rolls Royce and Bentley automobiles. Now that's really going to benefit the majority of hardworking American people. Let's all go out and buy one now! LMFAO! True to form lowering taxes for the wealthy while screwing over the middle class and the poor. Let them eat (expensive) eggs and their children play with (even more expensive) dolls!

QUOTE=Spidy;3002339 No, allow me!

And the $29 Trillion dollar billionaire robber baron banker "parasites" of 2008, fraudulent mortgage subprime lending financial debacle and fiasco?

[URL]https://www.levyinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/QUOTE[/URL]

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2025/05/06/donalds-we-should-lower-medicaid-reimbursement-for-able-bodied-closer-to-rate-for-disabled-poor-kids/[/URL]

BTW if you have a problem with all those subprime scams why didn't Scumbag Barry Hussein that you voted for lock anyone up? Not one dirtbag.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3002339]No, allow me!

And the $29 Trillion dollar billionaire robber baron banker "parasites"of 2008, fraudulent mortgage subprime lending financial debacle and fiasco?

https://www.levyinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/op_23.pdf[/QUOTE]Because he was installed by the globalist oligarchs to be a good little house slave ala Scumbag Bubba from his trailer park in Arkansas.

So he could go from being an unemployable bum in the hood of the south side of Chicago hanging out at Jeremiah Wrights "church" to having a nice pad in Marthas Vineyard.

Notice nobody tried to kill him in 8 yrs but "they" tried to assassinate Our Lord and Savior 2 x last summer.

If that doesn't tell you everything you need to know you're fucking dummer than you even look on here.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3002320]Producer prices have fallen for 29 consecutive months. March's figures showed the sharpest drop in four months, and forecasts point to an even steeper decline in April."

Yep, there is no deflation in sight. All is well in China. LOL. They have no incentive to negotiate. / sarc.

In all seriousness, I have not been to China as often as other family members (what I saw was enough), and I was talking to one and he told me about China and the mandate from Heaven. I honestly thought was a joke but apparently it is a real thing. This is from google AI:

The concept of the Mandate of Heaven, a traditional Chinese political ideology, has been invoked in discussions about the legitimacy of Xi Jinping's rule in China. According to this doctrine, a ruler's authority is granted by divine approval and is contingent upon their ability to govern wisely and justly. If a ruler fails to do so, they can lose the mandate, leading to potential revolts or changes in leadership.

Some scholars and commentators argue that Xi Jinping's legitimacy as a ruler is linked to the Mandate of Heaven, emphasizing his role in leading China into the "New Era" and promoting "common prosperity. " They suggest that his performance in office, particularly his efforts to strengthen China's economy and international standing, supports his claim to the mandate. For instance, Xi's third term as Chinese President was cemented at the 20th National Congress of the Communist Party of China in October 2022.

However, others contend that Xi Jinping has not been chosen by the Chinese people to rule, and therefore does not have the Mandate of Heaven. They argue that the mandate is derived from the people's approval and that Xi's ascent to power was not through democratic means.

The idea of the Mandate of Heaven continues to influence Chinese politics and society, even though the current system is not directly based on this ancient concept. The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) has adapted the notion to justify its rule and Xi's leadership, emphasizing performance legitimacy and the need for stability and prosperity.

End of link.

I had thought of Xi as an iron dictator incapable of being taken out, but apparently all that needs to happen is the people just believe he is not heaven's choice, and the people and party turn their backs on him. It is also interesting that he is having issues with the military.

This guy Peter Zeihan gets his information straight from the CIA and apparently Xi only likes yes men around him. So it makes sense at first he told Trump to piss off, but I think he got a lot of flak from people telling him he had to negotiate or the Chinese economy would tank.

If the Chinese economy collapses, and God should it ever, it looks like Xi will be on his way out.[/QUOTE]Mandate from Heaven LMMFAO.

Fuck the worlds poor, invest it in USA communities.

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/08/bill-gates-charity-wealth.html[/URL]

NVDA going back to $140? Hah! That'll happen with pigs fly. When hell freezes over, when the Pope's an American Wait a second. What? The pope is an american!? Oh, Satan help us.

The global economy is already wrecked because of trade wars, and I'm sure we are well on our way to WW3 (which I very much welcome) now another american is going to come along and start a holy war? Thanks a lot new pope. Sheesh.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3002320]Producer prices have fallen for 29 consecutive months. March's figures showed the sharpest drop in four months, and forecasts point to an even steeper decline in April."

Yep, there is no deflation in sight. All is well in China. LOL. They have no incentive to negotiate. / sarc.

In all seriousness, I have not been to China as often as other family members (what I saw was enough), and I was talking to one and he told me about China and the mandate from Heaven. I honestly thought was a joke but apparently it is a real thing. This is from google AI:

The concept of the Mandate of Heaven, a traditional Chinese political ideology, has been invoked in discussions about the legitimacy of Xi Jinping's rule in China. According to this doctrine, a ruler's authority is granted by divine approval and is contingent upon their ability to govern wisely and justly. If a ruler fails to do so, they can lose the mandate, leading to potential revolts or changes in leadership.

Some scholars and commentators argue that Xi Jinping's legitimacy as a ruler is linked to the Mandate of Heaven, emphasizing his role in leading China into the "New Era" and promoting "common prosperity. " They suggest that his performance in office, particularly his efforts to strengthen China's economy and international standing, supports his claim to the mandate. For instance, Xi's third term as Chinese President was cemented at the 20th National Congress of the Communist Party of China in October 2022.[/QUOTE]Our Lord and Savior will completely eviscerate them by Christmas, he's right as usual the USA doesn't need any trade deals.

They all espec Xi needs to RIM him.

[URL]https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trumps-china-tariffs-swing-sledgehammer-101237281.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2025/04/30/hundreds-chinese-workers-protest-factories-shut-down-trump-tariffs/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.newsmax.com/briggenblaineholt/xijinping-mao-pla/2025/05/02/id/1209352/[/URL]

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3002347]Because he was installed by the globalist oligarchs to be a good little house slave ala Scumbag Bubba from his trailer park in Arkansas.

So he could go from being an unemployable bum in the hood of the south side of Chicago hanging out at Jeremiah Wrights "church" to having a nice pad in Marthas Vineyard.

Notice nobody tried to kill him in 8 yrs but "they" tried to assassinate Our Lord and Savior 2 x last summer.

If that doesn't tell you everything you need to know you're fucking dummer than you even look on here.[/QUOTE][I][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/I] Let me know when the Jedi Mind Trick wears off, (if it ever does with such weak minds), long enough for me to remind you, that the Subprime Mortgage debacle and financial meltdown and the $29,000,000,000,000 trillion dollar fiasco, took place on Repub George W. Bush's watch. [url]https://www.levyinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/op_23.pdf[/url]

Get a clue, and stop getting suckered by all that nonsense, from online right-wing propaganda. It rots the brain!

[b]Save yourself,[/b] your American Fuhrer/Savior is not gonna do it for you, since he's way too busy, picking your pockets! [I][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/I]

[b]PS:[/b] BTW, I just can't wait for you to post, yet another meaningless post, with reams and reams and reams of right-wing bull-crap, to fill the message boards, with utter nonsense to cover your inept knowledge of basic facts...I'm counting the minutes...carry-on!

[QUOTE=Spidy;3002398][I][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/I] Let me know when the Jedi Mind Trick wears off, (if it ever does with such weak minds), long enough for me to remind you, that the Subprime Mortgage debacle and financial meltdown and the $29,000,000,000,000 trillion dollar fiasco, took place on Repub George W. Bush's watch. [url]https://www.levyinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/op_23.pdf[/url]

Get a clue, and stop getting suckered by all that nonsense, from online right-wing propaganda. It rots the brain!
[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2025/06/lies-damned-lies-and-ideology/?utm_source=recirc-desktop&utm_medium=homepage&utm_campaign=river&utm_content=featured-content-trending&utm_term=third[/URL]

It is amazing to me how individuals up in here are completely ignoring the roll that crypto is playing in creating trading networks outside of the SWIFT payment system.

The DISUSGOV has used their monetary system as a weapon. As such individuals who do not want to get beaten by the financial club wielded by Uncle Sam a developing ways around the system.

[U]What those who have their head in the sand are doing:[/U]

[QUOTE][b]You love rimming Xi so much why don't you live there[/b]

If the Chinese economy collapses, and God should it ever, it looks like Xi will be on his way out.

Because he was installed by the globalist oligarchs to be a good little house slave ala Scumbag Bubba from his trailer park in Arkansas.[/QUOTE]What I am seeing the headlines, on YouTube and witnessing with my own eyes is a change in Asia since the current administration took office. On this side of the world, my algorithm feeds me much more information about what is happening on this side of the world.

My fellow American's have NO idea what is going to hit them in the coming years. The solution USGOV has for uncompetitive industries is simply protect them.

[B]BYD[/B] builds a better car. Don't let them import them. Telecommunications equipment from China is better than in the US. Say it's designed to spy on my fellow American's.

In Trumps first term he banned [U]Huawei[/U]. I bought one in order to give him two middle fingers up and show him that I have much more power voting with my dollars than I do at the ballot box.

[QUOTE]If Americans have the right incentive system, we can do almost anything better than anyone.[/QUOTE]You cannot be serious. [B]Then why did they need slaves to pick cotton[/B]?

I do not see my fellow American running out into the fields to bring in the crops in order to feed themselves or working in meat plants in order to provide a animal protein source to themselves.

No, it is in the core of my fellow Americans to avoid hard physical work and instead work with their brains. That is why they needed at first slaves and then immigrants in order to do the work that my fellow Americans refused to do.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3001814]Nope, sorry, the US Constitution is for Americans not people who come to our country illegally and commit crimes, and when we were founded as a nation, [b]we had slaves and only land owners could vote[/b]. Before an income tax and women could vote, the USA was the #1 economy in the world.[/QUOTE][B]You do know the White House was built with slave labor?[/B]

[QUOTE]Yes, enslaved people played a significant role in building the White House. The construction of the White House, which began in 1792, relied on both free and enslaved labor. Enslaved individuals participated in every stage of the process, including quarrying stone, transporting materials, and erecting the walls.
[u]Details on Enslaved Labor in White House Construction[/u]:
[b]Initial Construction (1792-1800):[/b]The initial construction of the White House, and subsequent renovations, relied on free and enslaved workers.
[b]Role of Enslaved Labor:[/b]Enslaved people were involved in every aspect of the construction, including quarrying stone, transporting materials, making bricks, and more.
[b]Types of Tasks:[/b]They performed various tasks, including quarrying stone, transporting it, and erecting the walls.
[b]Labor Force:[/b]The workforce included European craftsmen, white wage laborers, and both free and enslaved African-American laborers.
[b]Location:[/b]The initial construction occurred in Washington, D.C., a newly established capital city.
[b]Use of Enslaved Labor:[/b]The decision to place the capital on land ceded by slave-holding states like Virginia and Maryland influenced the reliance on enslaved labor.
[b]Continued Use:[/b]The White House Historical Association notes that enslaved labor was used in the construction of the White House and the Capitol Building, with over 200 enslaved individuals working on these projects.
[b]Beyond Construction:[/b]Enslaved individuals also worked within the White House as domestic staff, including as chefs, gardeners, maids, and more.
[b]Examples:[/b]Wage rolls from 1795 list enslaved individuals like Tom, Peter, Ben, Harry, and Daniel, some of whom were owned by White House architect James Hoban.
[b]Presidents and Slavery:[/b]Many early presidents were slave owners and brought their enslaved workers with them to the White House.
[b]Continued Research:[/b]Historians continue to research the lives of the enslaved individuals who worked at the White House, aiming to learn more about their identities and experiences.
[b]Credit the quote to AI[/b][/QUOTE]Should be renamed: [I]The House that Slaves Built[/I]!

What is the point of the OP posting links that are behind pay walls? Especially when he knows they are behind pay walls. Because he is paying for that [B]male bovine excrement[/B] that he is posting.

[QUOTE][URL]https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2025/06/lies-damned-lies-and-ideology/?utm_source=recirc-desktop&utm_medium=homepage&utm_campaign=river&utm_content=featured-content-trending&utm_term=third[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3002388]Our Lord and Savior will completely eviscerate them by Christmas, he's right as usual the USA doesn't need any trade deals.

They all espec Xi needs to RIM him.

[URL]https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trumps-china-tariffs-swing-sledgehammer-101237281.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2025/04/30/hundreds-chinese-workers-protest-factories-shut-down-trump-tariffs/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.newsmax.com/briggenblaineholt/xijinping-mao-pla/2025/05/02/id/1209352/[/URL][/QUOTE]Great links again MDS! Yeah, I love this phrase "China has grown accustomed to a USA Officials and businessmen that can be infiltrated, extorted, blackmailed, bought or disappeared.

DThe CCP arrogantly assessed that their USA Debt holdings, growing military and sprawling global projects (Belt and Road) provided more than enough levers to bring America to heel should she complain about the theft, fentanyl, and intentional yet slow destruction of the land of the free. ".

This was probably the most common reason I think Trump won in the first place. He is not bought and paid for. That was why I was considering Bernie back in 2016. He did not seem bought and paid for back then but the Dems rigged their primaries for Hiliary who was. The Dems are trying to revive Bernie now but he is pathetic now compared to what he once was. The people who championed him do not even recognize the corrupt as hell Bernie now. And do not get me started on the Bidens. China owns their asses.

"After all, politicians and bankers alike have cashiered American manufacturing, created dependencies on slave and near slave labor, allowed innovation to be stolen and then politely looked the other way as the CCP harvested organs of prisoners for its members, and formed alliances with America's enemies including the Mexican Drug Cartels, killing hundreds of thousands.

Don't worry Xi, the mainstream media won't report it. ".

Absolutely. That is why you have Spidy and even Hotdog gushing over China. All you hear from the lamestream media about China is how wonderful it is. The worst is the Democratic douches think a communist nation and prosperity go hand and hand.

"There are several instances where workers who have not been paid for many months are actually burning down their factories. Since Trump 2. 0, over 10,000 factories have closed and major cities like Beijing, Shanghai, Shenzhen, and Guangzhou are ghost towns. ".

Gee, I wonder why Newsmax is the only one reporting this. / sarc.

And this is the latest on the tariffs:

[URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/us-poised-drastically-cut-china-tariffs-soon-next-week-nypost-reports[/URL]

President Trump posted on Truth Social, "80% Tariff on China seems right!" while noting that the final decision rests with USA Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent.

To me, that means Trump really wants 60%. And if you go back and look at Fed projections, with a 60% tariff on China and 10% on everyone else, that adds at most 2% to the inflation number and for a short time at that. There is going to be an adjustment in supply chains but things in the long run will not just be fine but better. We won't be supporting the literally evil CCP as much as we have been.

That was what I was most worried about with Trump. There is so much crap he has to fix and only has four and maybe two years to do it. There is not one other pol with the balls to take on China. You know that; I know that, and if you really pinned down the Democratic douches, they would admit it too.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3002398][I][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/I] Let me know when the Jedi Mind Trick wears off, (if it ever does with such weak minds), long enough for me to remind you, that the Subprime Mortgage debacle and financial meltdown and the $29,000,000,000,000 trillion dollar fiasco, took place on Repub George W. Bush's watch. [url]https://www.levyinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/op_23.pdf[/url]

Get a clue, and stop getting suckered by all that nonsense, from online right-wing propaganda. It rots the brain!

[b]Save yourself,[/b] your American Fuhrer/Savior is not gonna do it for you, since he's way too busy, picking your pockets! [I][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/I]

[b]PS:[/b] BTW, I just can't wait for you to post, yet another meaningless post, with reams and reams and reams of right-wing bull-crap, to fill the message boards, with utter nonsense to cover your inept knowledge of basic facts...I'm counting the minutes...carry-on![/QUOTE]But you're wrong again of course.

Scumbag Bubba gutted Glass Steagall which caused the Global crisis in 2008 and Scumbag Barry swept all the dirt under the rug.

With the help of scumbags like Rahm Emanuel and Tim Geithner et al.

[URL]https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/economic-intelligence/2012/08/27/repeal-of-glass-steagall-caused-the-financial-crisis[/URL]

You really should take your head out of your ass, its not a very good look.

GW is a huge turd but the blame lies with Scumbag Bubba and Scumbag Barry, you really must be ET.

He / you still insists Scumbag Bubba didn't install the CCP into the WTO.

So stop all the lying already it doesn't fool me.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie[/URL]

[QUOTE=Spidy;3002321]Nitpicking at semantics over a quote, from an article entitled, [b]"What Do Your Taxes Pay For?"[/b]...is pathetic! Is that all you got? [i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i] Can you be any more pathetic?



Don't forget, you are of course, the [i][b]"Paycheck Superhero",[/b][/i] in your own mind and world of [i][b]"Two in three tax dollars goes to someone else."[/b][/i]

But I can see how you would be confused, since the billionaire robber baron class, have picked your pickets clean, are not paying their fair share of taxes and have largely left the payment of said taxes, to that of the hobbled and hallowed-out middle-class and "Paycheck Superheroes" like yourself. But fear not, once the Dems are back in power, I'm sure they'll maybe raise the tax rates on the billionaire robber baron class, to put things right.

In the meantime, take some advice and when one of YOUR heroes, and one of the biggest, baddest and world's richest investor man, says he doesn't mind paying his taxes, unlike fakeass "Paycheck Superheroes" or online/chatroom wannabes, such as yourself,...perhaps [b]YOU SHOULD LISTEN![/b]

I'll let the G.O.A.T. investor, Warren Buffet, explain it to y'all, MAGA chatroom wannabes:
[list][i][b]Warren Buffett Paid $5 Billion In Taxes [/b] And Says If 800 Other Companies Paid Their Share, No One Else Would Have To 'Pay A Dime'[/i] [url]https://finance.yahoo.com/news/warren-buffett-paid-5-billion-150020350.html[/url][/list]Fantastic quote by the GOAT! Now that tells you everything you need to know, about how the billionaire robber baron class, have conned, hoodwinked and suckered you MAGA imbeciles into thinking, [i]"Two in three tax dollars goes to someone else".[/i]

Again, the problem is the billionaire robber baron class, have you gullible MAGA imbeciles, so duped, bamboozled and confused, your lashing out at the wrong people. [b][i]Your fellow hardworking Americans aren't YOUR so called "parasites",[/i][/b] but rather the billionaire robber baron class, who continue at will, [u]to pick your ignorant MAGA pockets clean.[/u][/QUOTE]I respect Buffett's investing wisdom, but I think he is a nut job politically. As for being hood winked, you are being hood winked if you think Buffett is a political genius.

Buffett owns a huge chunk of Moody's and Bank of America, and you could not find two companies more stuck in the great recession mud than those two. Of course, you want to blame Bush and not these and other banks owned and run by Democrats. There was the worst of the bunch Citicorp run by Clinton goon Robert Rubin. And Goldman Sachs had a Democratic douche CEO in charge who claimed he was doing "God's work" in the finance markets while taxpayers bailed his sorry ass out.

And so yes, mighty Buffett got a bailout at taxpayer expense and when his lifelong partner Charlie Munger was asked by a student why taxpayers should be footing the bill for banking stupidity, he told the student that people needed to learn to "shut up and cope".

When the two major credit agencies called subprime mortgages AAA rated, who do you think Obama investigated, Moody's, the one 20% owned by Buffett or the one where Buffett had no ownership stake? Take a lucky guess.

Buffett also was the one who really stopped the Keystone pipeline that would have brought oil more cheaply and safely to the USA from Canada. If the pipeline would have been built, his train companies would have been hit hard in the bottom line.

As for not minding paying taxes, that is the biggest load of bullshit I have ever heard. I know someone in partnership with Buffett and he said Buffett was a cheap ass mother fucker.

In addition, the worst kept secret in the business world is that he was cheating on his wife who had cancer. Everyone knew who his mistress was.

As for the bullshit on raising taxes, he is just towing the Democratic company line. Someone who does math as well as he does knows you cannot tax your way out of the debt / deficit problem. The numbers do not add up.

All this time Spidy we have had our spats I thought of you as naive. I did not think you were a bad person but after this tax stuff? OMG. You really disgust me.

To solve the deficit issue, all Americans are going to have to come together and sacrifice. For me, that means more in taxes. For you, that means lower handouts. I am willing to do my part if everyone else is willing to do theirs but not you. You keep making up these bogeymen. MAGA people need to make more. Corporations need to pay more. It is everybody but you, and I do not need to know anything else about you other than that to know what a loser you really are.

[URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/statues-random-fat-black-women-popping-worldwide[/URL]

While it is not allowed to have statues of Thomas Jefferson or Teddy Roosevelt, among others, in New York City, a 12 ft bronze statue of a random fat black woman just standing there is certainly permitted. The Roosevelt and Jefferson statues were removed last year. After all, what did they ever do in contrast with this overweight fictional woman whose nipples are showing through her baggy t-shirt?

This is a fictional black woman. A fat, sloppy, slouchily dressed, black woman. Couldn't even find an ACTUAL black woman to represent.

No Harriet Tubman.

No Daisy Bates.

No Maya Angelou.

Just a fat fucking black woman.

And it gets worse: Similar statues installed recently in Florence, San Francisco, Rotterdam, & New York. All by the same (grifter-artist, "Thomas J Price," all with high levels of federal, municipal, private funding.

My favorite comment was: How about something that looks less like someone complaining their "order wasn't right"?

And then there is this bullshit: "In a culture that increasingly encourages a faster pace, Grounded in the Stars is an introspective meditation on humanity," the artist's website states, claiming the statue should "instigate meaningful connections and bind into an emotional state that allow for deeper reflection around the Human condition and greater cultural diversity. ".

Can you believe this crap? Obviously, the goal is if anyone criticizes the statue, you can call the person sexist and racist. Thing is every time I fly to Cartagena 75% of all flights are filed with black men. Guys on here have cricized these men caling them part of the Sousa crowd or the Passport Bros but honestly I have not seen any of them behave badly on the flights. I think the guys shooting videos bragging about their exploits is dumb beause they risk ruining their playground by bringing pubicity to it, but the black culture does not have the shame with seeing hookers that the white culture does.

I have tempted to ask a few of those guys, why do you all come to Cartagena so much? Are the black American women really that bad? Of course, I look at this staute of this angry black woman and while I might not like her, the black men have to live with her, and the answer is yes and the proof is seeing those guys are hauling their asses to Colombia in droves. It is like don't you dare call me fat. You are body shaming me you racist, sexist POS.

That is what these Democratic douches do not get. Productive American men do not have to stay in the USA. I wonder how many guys are asking the same question I am. Is the reason I am paying taxes is so this whale can have food stamps?

The most unstable numbskull to ever waddle into the Oval Office much less actually be allowed to sit in the desk chair, Donald Trump, has just now demanded his Repub Party disavow 100 years of their entire economic philosophy in order to accomplish godknowswhat for himself.

Yep. The same guy who told us American families can no longer afford more than 2 dolls and 5 pencils because, well, remember all those Billions and Billons and Billions of dollars America will be given by other countries from his Trump Tariffs that will make all of us rich and fund everything we want including Childcare because Childcare is Childcare and groceries, god I'm glad he invented that word, has now turned out to be AMERICANS paying those Billions and Billions and Billions of dollars and looks like doing that will make everyone poor and not rich at all. Shocking.

But it doesn't end there. Remember how Repubs have been telling us for well over 100 years that the benefits of giving tax cuts for the rich will "Trickle-Down" into the rest of the economy, create more jobs than the Dem alternative and make all of us rich too?

Well, Trump wants the Repub Party to flush that whole idea down the shitter too. Which is where it always belonged, of course. But now it turns out Trump has always understood that Repub Party economic philosophy was total BS and now we needs them to raise taxes on the rich, "wipe out jobs and businesses", drive rich people out of the country, destroy the USA Economy and all of the other horrors that Repubs have spent 100 years telling us would happen if we raised taxes on the rich, because now Trump has some personal need to be met by the Repubs doing so.

Or does he.

Not sure.

He kinda wants his Repub Party toy do do both and refuse to do both, all at the same time.

Or something like that.

[B]Trump backs tax hike on rich, but says GOP 'should probably not do it'.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/09/trump-tax-hike-rich-republicans.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]"As for the policy proposal youre talking about, the president has said he himself, personally, would not mind paying a little bit more to help the poor and the middle class and the working class in this country, Leavitt said.[/QUOTE]Uh. Did Trump never ever ever get the Repub memo that squeezing out every dime in taxes cuts for the rich is GOOD for the poor, the middle class and the working class in America? For more than 100 damn years the Repub Party has been pitching their Supply-Side / Trickle-Down con that every dime removed from a rich person in taxes does serious damage to the poor, wipes out jobs and does horrible damage to the middle class and working class!

And now a whole new Trump con requires them to flip-flop on their con to accommodate some other con Trump has up his sleeve.

LOL. So much fun.

The civil war in the Dis-United Staes of America have turned hot.

Trump is arresting state judges and democratic politicians.

[QUOTE]A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. [/QUOTE]Lock and load.

[B]Prepare to defend yourselves against the Republican Morans![/B]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3002570][URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/statues-random-fat-black-women-popping-worldwide[/URL]

While it is not allowed to have statues of Thomas Jefferson or Teddy Roosevelt, among others, in New York City, a 12 ft bronze statue of a random fat black woman just standing there is certainly permitted. The Roosevelt and Jefferson statues were removed last year. After all, what did they ever do in contrast with this overweight fictional woman whose nipples are showing through her baggy t-shirt?

This is a fictional black woman. A fat, sloppy, slouchily dressed, black woman. Couldn't even find an ACTUAL black woman to represent.

No Harriet Tubman.

No Daisy Bates.

No Maya Angelou.

Just a fat fucking black woman.

And it gets worse: Similar statues installed recently in Florence, San Francisco, Rotterdam, & New York. All by the same (grifter-artist, "Thomas J Price," all with high levels of federal, municipal, private funding.

My favorite comment was: How about something that looks less like someone complaining their "order wasn't right"?

And then there is this bullshit: "In a culture that increasingly encourages a faster pace, Grounded in the Stars is an introspective meditation on humanity," the artist's website states, claiming the statue should "instigate meaningful connections and bind into an emotional state that allow for deeper reflection around the Human condition and greater cultural diversity. ".

Can you believe this crap? Obviously, the goal is if anyone criticizes the statue, you can call the person sexist and racist. Thing is every time I fly to Cartagena 75% of all flights are filed with black men. Guys on here have cricized these men caling them part of the Sousa crowd or the Passport Bros but honestly I have not seen any of them behave badly on the flights. I think the guys shooting videos bragging about their exploits is dumb beause they risk ruining their playground by bringing pubicity to it, but the black culture does not have the shame with seeing hookers that the white culture does.

I have tempted to ask a few of those guys, why do you all come to Cartagena so much? Are the black American women really that bad? Of course, I look at this staute of this angry black woman and while I might not like her, the black men have to live with her, and the answer is yes and the proof is seeing those guys are hauling their asses to Colombia in droves. It is like don't you dare call me fat. You are body shaming me you racist, sexist POS.

That is what these Democratic douches do not get. Productive American men do not have to stay in the USA. I wonder how many guys are asking the same question I am. Is the reason I am paying taxes is so this whale can have food stamps?[/QUOTE][URL]https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/us-economy-losing-much-600-billion-year-intellectual-property-chinese-espionage-210956[/URL]

These dirtbags love this shit, the CCP stealing 600 billion of IP from Americans per year, besides everything else.

When I see articles about Federal budgets etc they like to calculate it on a 10 yr timeline so 600 X10 =6 trillion in just stolen IP.

How is that not an Act of War?

But these dirtbags love it because they hate America and Americans (ie Tinydick).

You mention that fat pig on food stamps.

Here's a link.

[URL]https://www.npr.org/2025/05/09/nx-s1-5389952/usda-snap-doge-data-immigration[/URL]*.

100 billion a year on parasites getting fat on Cheetos and Pepsi.

100 billion times 10 yrs =1 fucking trillion for Cheetos and Pepsi $1,000,000,000,000.

So then they can ***** that they need Ozempic so they don't explode.

[URL]https://www.npr.org/2025/05/09/nx-s1-5389952/usda-snap-doge-data-immigration[/URL]*.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3002570][URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/statues-random-fat-black-women-popping-worldwide[/URL]

While it is not allowed to have statues of Thomas Jefferson or Teddy Roosevelt, among others, in New York City, a 12 ft bronze statue of a random fat black woman just standing there is certainly permitted. The Roosevelt and Jefferson statues were removed last year. After all, what did they ever do in contrast with this overweight fictional woman whose nipples are showing through her baggy t-shirt?

This is a fictional black woman. A fat, sloppy, slouchily dressed, black woman. Couldn't even find an ACTUAL black woman to represent.

No Harriet Tubman.

No Daisy Bates.

No Maya Angelou.

Just a fat fucking black woman.

And it gets worse: Similar statues installed recently in Florence, San Francisco, Rotterdam, & New York. All by the same (grifter-artist, "Thomas J Price," all with high levels of federal, municipal, private funding.

My favorite comment was: How about something that looks less like someone complaining their "order wasn't right"?

And then there is this bullshit: "In a culture that increasingly encourages a faster pace, Grounded in the Stars is an introspective meditation on humanity," the artist's website states, claiming the statue should "instigate meaningful connections and bind into an emotional state that allow for deeper reflection around the Human condition and greater cultural diversity. ".

Can you believe this crap? Obviously, the goal is if anyone criticizes the statue, you can call the person sexist and racist. Thing is every time I fly to Cartagena 75% of all flights are filed with black men. Guys on here have cricized these men caling them part of the Sousa crowd or the Passport Bros but honestly I have not seen any of them behave badly on the flights. I think the guys shooting videos bragging about their exploits is dumb beause they risk ruining their playground by bringing pubicity to it, but the black culture does not have the shame with seeing hookers that the white culture does.

I have tempted to ask a few of those guys, why do you all come to Cartagena so much? Are the black American women really that bad? Of course, I look at this staute of this angry black woman and while I might not like her, the black men have to live with her, and the answer is yes and the proof is seeing those guys are hauling their asses to Colombia in droves. It is like don't you dare call me fat. You are body shaming me you racist, sexist POS.

That is what these Democratic douches do not get. Productive American men do not have to stay in the USA. I wonder how many guys are asking the same question I am. Is the reason I am paying taxes is so this whale can have food stamps?[/QUOTE]He is done, they bought him off.

This is why Wall St loves poor Democratic politicians they are cheap whoors ala Scumbags Bubba Barry Bernie Biden et al (and many GOP Desantis Paul Ryan Mitch McConnel et al).

And why they even tried to kill Trump because he can't be bought.

[B]Republicans believe should receive the death penalty for not paying your electric bill[/B]

[URL]https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/arizona-regulator-publicly-blames-bereaved-man-for-moms-heat-death-21673802[/URL]

[I]Somebody want to argue policy with me on this one?[/I]

When the commissioner was challenged about the decision which killed his mother, the Republican Moron mother fuck said it was his fault.

[QUOTE] I'm more blaming you for not looking out for your elderly mom, Myers tweeted. I refuse to tell utilities that they have to provide power to people that do not pay their bills.[/QUOTE][B]Second Amendment![/B]

[QUOTE]One off in the chamber there's no need for me to cock it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3002248]LOL. I think you are talking about illegals and "due process". The Democratic douches want to give illegals the same rights as citizens. That does not exist. This is from a lawyer who has been talking on MSNBC. [URL]https://dannycevallos.substack.com/p/how-much-due-process-is-actually[/URL].

Most nations do not grant citizenship to women who have their children in their country. If you have your baby in Japan, unlike in the USA, the baby is not a Japanese citizen. The law that allowed pregnant Mexican women to cross the border and have their kids here and become American citizens is the 14th Amendment. The reason for the 14th Amendment was Southern states after the Civil war tried to deny citizenship to slaves. As they should have, lower courts have upheld the law giving citizenship to these birthed citizens as it is above their pay grade. Eventually, the Supreme Court will tackle this. To me, it is a no brainer to plug this hole. American citizenship has been valued in the millions and it should not just be given away as a right to a child whose parent is breaking the law.

The funny thing is I think Republicans are more pro-immigrant than Democrats. We just want legal and productive citizens and not the criminals that cross the border and whose only talents are selling drugs and voting Democrat.

As for China, a lot of countries have done well moving from the farm to the factory. China is in debt up to their eyeballs. Someone is paying for those empty cities, and the federal government of China has pushed the debt to the state and local level. Unlike Japan, there is no free flow of currency into the dollar and Euro, and the Chinese people have had little alternative other than to pile into real estate, and the Chinese lie their asses off with economic data, [URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/beijing-stops-publishing-hundreds-statistics-cover-economic-collapse[/URL].

American savings are immense. They are just in the bond and stock market not banks, so I do not make that big of a deal with Americans and their lack of "savings".

While you acknowledge the real estate bubble, I do not think you get how bad it is. The rule of thumb used to be when buying a house you take your income and double it, so the price to income ratio should be 2. That is your house would cost double your income if you put every dollar you earned into your hose.

One reason and perhaps THE reason the great Biden economy is such a lie is that prices of stocks and real estate rose but not income with housing and not earnings with the stock market. When prices go up but not income or earnings, that is just money printing at work.

Now look at price to income ratios around the world. New York is fucking crazy at 14, but Shangai is at 34, and that is down from what it was. But you have Phoenix at 4 and Orlando and Dallas at 3, and you can see why everyone is moving there from New York and California. China is nowhere near done dealing with their real estate bubble.

Usually their home is the biggest asset most people own. You mention monetary policies and deflation but the root cause of deflation is falling demand, and that is a natural consequence of aging. Once people quit being parents, demand falls down. China is in the first inning of its deflationary bubble.

Japan and Western complacency? Come on, man. Japan kicked China's butt in WW2 and even today, Japan is way more organized, productive, and safe than China. Japan's issue is they are the oldest nation in the world. The first thing that happens when you go from the country to the city is kids go from being free labor to an expense. The USA has not followed that path. We have adjusted to lower births by allowing immigration. Like I said, the difference between Republicans and Democrats is not over immigration. It is over illegal immigration. For God's sake, Trump is on his second foreign wife.

And yeah, Japan made shit cars in the 1970's and upped their game in the 1980's. I remember being blown away by the Datsun 280 ZX in the 80's just like Chinese cars are blowing me away today. This is a wakeup call not just for American car companies but the world's car companies.

As for bringing home production, that was already happening after Covid. Trump is just accelerating that trend. I do not get this crap with stuff doubling in price. Iphones could be made in the USA for $30 more not double and with most goods, the cost of labor is tiny.

Some guy with TDS was saying the USA could not make shoes. I was laughing. Since when can the USA not make fucking shoes? Henry Ford invented the assembly line. A guy who looked into making shoes said an automated USA factory could produce shoes for 7% more than not China but even lower cost Vietnam. Once the right incentives are in place, I am sure the USA can produce not just equal but better quality shoes than Vietnam for less.

Do you think anyone in 2004 was saying the USA would be self sufficient in crude oil fifteen years later? How did that happen? Did Americans just trip over oil? We developed a new way to drill for crude which went from being expensive to cost effective. China has huge shale reserves, and they have not been able to tap into them in any meaningful way, and all you talk about is Western complacency.

You think the USA cannot build phone and shoe factories but China can get off oil and coal at break net speed? Please! Here are the numbers.

[URL]https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=64544[/URL] China's refiners imported 11.1 million be / the of crude oil and processed 14.2 million be / the. Both crude oil imports and refinery runs decreased in China from record levels in 2023, when the country imported 11.3 million be / the of crude oil and processed 14.8 million be / the.

In 2023, China's coal consumption reached 91.94 exajoules, marking a new high. In 2022, China's coal consumption grew by 4. 6 percent to a new all-time high of 4. 5 billion metric tons, nearly nine times higher than the United States.

Coal consumption went down in 2024 like oil did but there is nothing break net about that reduction, and China is the biggest coal importer in the world. If China invades Taiwan, the American navy cuts off China's crude and coal and their economy tanks in days.

I think I am realistic on China. It has huge issues that the USA does not have. Most of American's foreign policy was based on energy security and oil importation. We no longer have that issue and China does, and for some reason, you just want to blow that off. What happened with American oil production will happen in manufacturing. There were more cynics on oil production, I called them the peak oil nuts, then there are cynics on manufacturing. If Americans have the right incentive system, we can do almost anything better than anyone.[/QUOTE]I actually agree there really is a valid issue with immigration in America and the Dem's handling of this and this has a lot to do with Trump getting into power. America, like the west, is in a dilemma on immigration, and I don't know what to tell you, maybe AI and automation will eventually step up resolving the need but clearly not desire for immigrants.

I think you really are looking at America with rose tinted glasses and you haven't woken up and smelt the coffee on China. Taking the latter first, have you heard that song "Anything you can do, I can do cheaper (and better) than you"? That's China for you. I've spoken about EV's and AI as examples. We can go further. Stephen spoke about phones- I also had a Huawei phone- best phone I ever had, hands down better than Crapple and waay cheaper. Have you heard of the Chengdu Aerospace corporation? Their stock went up 20% last week. Why? Because of the India / Pakistan conflagaration. Their J10 c has proven its worth against the supposedly vastly superior French Raphael, 3-5 of which were shot down depending on whom you speak to. "If it's Boeing I'm not going" is what many people now assert after their planes started falling out of the sky. We can go on. You need to accept the reality. Yes, America retains superiority over semiconductors and arguably aeronautics but for how long?

We can play tit for tat on who has the bigger issues, China or America. They may be indebted to their heads on real estate but it is true that they have incredible amounts of personal savings too, which offsets the debt. Meanwhile 10's of millions of Americans are living pay check to paycheck. You are in awe of this fuckwit Trump and Musk even though they've done sweet FA on it. What have they done? Saved $160 billion by taking the money from poor and hungry and from critical govt programs and from air traffic controllers? Wow. My dream is to have my hated ones travel into Newark on a Boeing. This from the Vice Joker who claimed he was going to save $1 Trillion (or was it $2 trillion) in the few months he was there.

Neither they nor you understand America's problem so how are you going to find the solutions? Let me edify you, if you care to open your mind. America's major problem isn't bloated civil service or "social security" or even welfare. It's the fact that you guys have been making choices which you don't have the money for and it's not recent either. Have you heard of Bretton Woods? This was a pact post WW2 by the world's major economies to have the dollar as a reserve currency, their currencies pegged to the dollar and it was pegged to gold. An American dollar had real discernable value, until around 1971 when it was taken off gold. Why? Because the world cottoned off to the fact that America was printing dollars to pay off its costs for Vietnam. After it, America realised that the world would lap up its printed dollars anyway so it thought, this is a sweet deal, I print off a dollar, then I go to the rest of the world, and buy its goods and give them the dollar. They then have to do something with that dollar and there's not enough stuff that I make that they want so they take that dollar and give the dollar back to me and I give them an "IOU". And with that dollar back to me, I can buy a helicopter to shoot down a Vietnamese. Sweet deal, no? And That's what got you guys hooked on debt. It harks back through to getting off the gold standard. There's actually nothing wrong with this, per se. But you've used the debt proceeds for stupid purposes. I've previously given you figures regarding the cost of Iraq debacle of $7 trillion. You could have spent the money on so many other things of value but going around the world instigating unholy wars was not smart. They say Russia lost to the west because it was literally bankrupted and couldn't finance its military. Well, America is going down the same route.

Look, my man. I am not anti American. I think there's a great deal of good things about America as I've articulated before. But you do need to wake and smell the coffee and this wet dream that China is going to collapse or somehow you're going to on shore all the production and become great again is simply unrealistic. Try and look at things objectively. The world's supply chains are incredibly complex and if you are a free market believer you have to also believe that the free market operates rationally. Your TV leave alone your car has many many components from all over the world in a way which is most efficient. America nor any one nation has the capacity to produce all these. Have you heard of Ricardian economics? This is Ricardian economics in operation, and to try to refute this requires something compelling. This batshit President of yours against Ricardo? Come on, bro. The tariffs are simply a tax on Americans and all they will do is accelarate your demise and accelarate China's ascendancy.

Please forego these batshit conspiracy theory websites you sent and read a book. Here's a few I recommend.

- Power and Politics (Daron Acemoglu- I met him, he is super smart and a noble prize winner).

- Crisis Economics (Nouriel Roubini).

- How Democracies Die (Steven Levitsky).

[QUOTE=HotDog666;3002729] After it, America realised that the world would lap up its printed dollars anyway so it thought, this is a sweet deal, I print off a dollar, then I go to the rest of the world, and buy its goods and give them the dollar. They then have to do something with that dollar and there's not enough stuff that I make that they want so they take that dollar and give the dollar back to me and I give them an "IOU". [/QUOTE]Yeah, I have been listening to this since I heard people hawking gold. I think you are confusing money printing with credit. When the USA government gives people a dollar, it is as a loan via treasury bills and notes. If the USA prints up too many dollars, people demand a higher interest rate, and the government has to pay. It is not a free lunch as the gold bugs promote.

And the creation of money is not just at the hands of the government. Anyone who gives someone else credit is creating money. The worse the risk, the higher the rate is. In short, money creation is limited by the faith of the lender. If the lender does not have faith he will be paid back, money creation dries up.

When I went to a shareholder meeting of a Venezuelan telephone company, I heard Venezuelan after Venezuelan talk about fucking over Verizon which owned 25% of the company by breaking their own laws. Verizon (which was GTE) literally laid down all the phone lines in that country. When I heard that, I knew that Venezuela, which at the time had the largest proven oil reserves in the world, was done for a generation. Until Venezuelans respect lenders, they will be poor.

When I went to American banks to get a mortgage to buy land in Latin America, they would not lend me the money. They would do a personal loan but not a mortgage. Yet real estate prices in Latin countries went through the roof. I was in Paraguay and a decent house was $300,000. I was like who in Paraguay has that kind of cash? That is a price to income ratio of 50! What was happening is European banks particularly French ones were doing the lending and unlike American banks, they have not taken their haircuts. A lot of the reason the USA gets flak is our honesty with the numbers (well, before Biden anyway).

Right now, Greece, remember them, has lower interest rates than the USA. Now do you think that is because they are a better credit risk or they are hiding their debt? A free market is based on honesty, and the Greeks have never been honest.

When I went to Latin countries and asked why they were so poor, the reason I was given was corruption. That implies it is government and not the fault of the people though. What I saw by going to Venezuela is Hugo Chavez and his stealing was a symptom and not the cause of the issue. The problem was and is the Venezuelan citizens absolutely disdain for the rights of lenders and so no one wants to extend them credit. The corruption part is the government not sticking up for lenders.

So when you talk about the "free market" and China, what are you talking about? What is the credit system in China? Is it open? Is there transparency? Would you loan money to China and if so, how would you assess the risk and the interest rate you should be paid? And with what would you want to be paid back your interest?

One of Warren Buffett's sayings is "Only when the tide goes out do you discover who's been swimming naked". What that means is if the French banks keep on their books that the homes in their Paraguayan real estate portfolio are valued at $300,000 apiece, everything is fine. Only when they are forced to liquidate the asset or the government demands a realistic valuation is when the tide goes out.

And banks are not like other businesses. If they lever up 10:1, then a 10% reduction in asset prices renders them insolvent. So for all your disdain for the American system and how flawed it is, be honest. You have no clue how the Chinese credit system operates. And you know how I know? Because if you did, there is no way in hell you would be pushing China over the USA.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3002789]Yeah, I have been listening to this since I heard people hawking gold. I think you are confusing money printing with credit. When the USA government gives people a dollar, it is as a loan via treasury bills and notes. If the USA prints up too many dollars, people demand a higher interest rate, and the government has to pay. It is not a free lunch as the gold bugs promote.

And the creation of money is not just at the hands of the government. Anyone who gives someone else credit is creating money. The worse the risk, the higher the rate is. In short, money creation is limited by the faith of the lender. If the lender does not have faith he will be paid back, money creation dries up.

When I went to a shareholder meeting of a Venezuelan telephone company, I heard Venezuelan after Venezuelan talk about fucking over Verizon which owned 25% of the company by breaking their own laws. Verizon (which was GTE) literally laid down all the phone lines in that country. When I heard that, I knew that Venezuela, which at the time had the largest proven oil reserves in the world, was done for a generation. Until Venezuelans respect lenders, they will be poor.

When I went to American banks to get a mortgage to buy land in Latin America, they would not lend me the money. They would do a personal loan but not a mortgage. Yet real estate prices in Latin countries went through the roof. I was in Paraguay and a decent house was $300,000. I was like who in Paraguay has that kind of cash? That is a price to income ratio of 50! What was happening is European banks particularly French ones were doing the lending and unlike American banks, they have not taken their haircuts. A lot of the reason the USA gets flak is our honesty with the numbers (well, before Biden anyway).

Right now, Greece, remember them, has lower interest rates than the USA. Now do you think that is because they are a better credit risk or they are hiding their debt? A free market is based on honesty, and the Greeks have never been honest.

When I went to Latin countries and asked why they were so poor, the reason I was given was corruption. That implies it is government and not the fault of the people though. What I saw by going to Venezuela is Hugo Chavez and his stealing was a symptom and not the cause of the issue. The problem was and is the Venezuelan citizens absolutely disdain for the rights of lenders and so no one wants to extend them credit. The corruption part is the government not sticking up for lenders.

So when you talk about the "free market" and China, what are you talking about? What is the credit system in China? Is it open? Is there transparency? Would you loan money to China and if so, how would you assess the risk and the interest rate you should be paid? And with what would you want to be paid back your interest?

One of Warren Buffett's sayings is "Only when the tide goes out do you discover who's been swimming naked". What that means is if the French banks keep on their books that the homes in their Paraguayan real estate portfolio are valued at $300,000 apiece, everything is fine. Only when they are forced to liquidate the asset or the government demands a realistic valuation is when the tide goes out.

And banks are not like other businesses. If they lever up 10:1, then a 10% reduction in asset prices renders them insolvent. So for all your disdain for the American system and how flawed it is, be honest. You have no clue how the Chinese credit system operates. And you know how I know? Because if you did, there is no way in hell you would be pushing China over the USA.[/QUOTE]Be weary of engaging anyone that calls themselves hotdog on an anon hooker online forum, that publicly fluffs and rims the CCP.

And claims to hang out with Nobel Laureates when they aren't fluffing and rimming Xi lolololololol.

You're going down the Jjbee64 path again lolololol.

[U]Hotdog666[/U] (please note the proper use of your handle. I will address you with disrespect as you do later in my post).

I am not sure what your problem is. Reading comprehension maybe. I will lay out the law and the fact for you again:

[QUOTE]Another important limitation on lawful permanent residents is that they are subject to the grounds of deportability. If you commit certain crimes or security violations, or even fail to advise USCIS of your changes of address, you can be placed in removal proceedings and deported from the United States[/QUOTE]Your boy was a guest. Why? Because guests can get deported. A US Citizen cannot get deported.

Got sideways of the law. So he is in removal proceedings. It the USGOV did not have a valid complaint then the Judge would have immediately thrown it out.

[QUOTE]You have told two lies there,. Firstly, your repeated lie that a permanent resident is a "guest". It isn't. You've just fabricated that and repeating a lie doesn't make it a truth.

The second lie, that you've repeated is that Mahmud Khalil did something illegal. He didn't. He protested about Israeli atrocities against the Palestinians and that was his "crime". Your country is ruled by Zionists and America is the dog that the zionists wag. However it does not make it a crime.[/QUOTE][B]You can call the law I have presented to a a lie as much as you want [u]Food on a Bun[/u]. Does not change the law or the facts in the case[/B]

[QUOTE]You're despicable and hypocritical decrying against "republican" "racists" who (supposedly) treat your people unjustly while applying the same modus operandi and mindset towards this victim. Have some shame.[/QUOTE][B]I will never let a "guest" such as yourself tell me anything about my country of origin while you live in some shithole country in the world.[/B]

Get a life, learn the law, acknowledge the facts. You boy was a guest. He got sideways of the law. He is removal proceedings. He is receiving [B]DUE PROCESS[/B]. In a system very different from China and Russia whom you are comparing the Dis-United States of America to.

How are you as a [B]International Trick[/B] going tell me I am disgusting and need to have shame? When is your next trip to Jakarta. I look forward to reading your next trip report.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3002789]Yeah, I have been listening to this since I heard people hawking gold.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]Gold prices fall as Trump hints at major US-UK trade deal- Gold prices dropped on Thursday as market nerves eased following U.S. President Donald Trumps announcement of a possible trade deal with Britain. The news pulled investors away from the safe-haven metal, which had earlier seen some gains.[/QUOTE]Gold continues to be on a tear. This is actually a bad time to be buying gold as a major correction is on the horizon.

[QUOTE]But do not worry. SC swears it is going up so you should buy it. [b]Maybe he can lecture everyone on these things after the racist comments and how big his dick is[/b]. And BTW, [u]did he mention the killing he is making in gold[/u]?[/QUOTE]What I do is speak about all aspects of an investment. Not just my view. Buy BONDs E2008 says. But he fails to point out that if the entity that issued those BONDS fail you lose EVERYTHING!

Gold (Au), if you hold it physically has held it's value adjusted for inflation over 5000 years. If there is a major reset (and there will be if the Dis-United States of America does not get it's act together) if all of your wealth is wiped out because the US Dollar goes to zero or hyper-inflates, I feel comfortable knowing I have something that I can use in the restart of the world economy.

[B]Male Bovine Excrement[/B] spewing from the keyboards of Republican Morons.

[QUOTE]If Americans have the right incentive system, we can do almost anything better than anyone. [/QUOTE][U]Harley Davison[/U]

Had an absolute lock on the premium motorcycle market. Now the company is floundering in the market that is should be doing better in than anyplace else in the world: The Dis-United States of America. Not only that but they are getting the clocks cleaned worldwide. Here is why:

[URL]https://youtu.be/fzKcAO_o-_Q?si=pfYZBluayH6wObeP[/URL]

I am currently shopping for a motorcycle. I am a new rider. I actually would prefer to represent, but Harley Davison is selling an inferior product at a premium price. I am looking at [B]Zontes[/B] and [B]CFMoto[/B]. But offering ton of tech, more power AND a lower price than even the current Japanese Brands. My vote of my USD has much more power than my vote at the ballot box. I am exercising that power as I pursue my happiness.

Now [U]Elvis 2008[/U] and [U]MarquisdeSade1[/U] would have me pay more just to buy American. In the United States of America that I grew up with that mentality is in opposition to the capitalist system I learned about and then finally mastered late in life. I should pay more so that the capitalists can impoverish me even more than they currently are doing.

[B]Remember I am just a poor (insert color of your choice here) man trying to make it in a (insert color of your choice here) world. I need to save every dollar I can![/B]

[QUOTE]We hold these truths to be self-evident, [u]that all men are created equal[/u], that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness[/QUOTE]

[U]Perment Resident[/U]

[QUOTE]Another important limitation on lawful permanent residents is that they are subject to the grounds of deportability. If you commit certain crimes or security violations, or even fail to advise USCIS of your changes of address, you can be placed in removal proceedings and deported from the United States[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]Columbia University graduate and pro-Palestinian activist [b]Mahmoud Khalil[/b] was detained by immigration authorities who said he could be deported and cited a Cold War-era law. Under that law, the secretary of state can make a noncitizen subject to deportation if their presence or activities could threaten U.S. foreign policy interests.[/QUOTE]Mother fuck got sideways of the law of the country he was a guest in. Removal process. Currently getting [B]DUE PROCESS[/B] under the law.

I will keep repeating it until individuals understand it. If you are not a citizen of the United States of America and did not grow up with a lifetime knowledge of the Constitution of the the United States of America I understand why you don't understand. I will continue to provide instruction and correction of those who refuse to see what is written in black and white in the law.

I know the immigration law in the counties I visit. I have attorneys in each one where I am a visitor. I have no immigration problems in my country of origin. I cannot be deported.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3002278]Oh look. Another War has erupted in the World on the watch of a president who himself claims and his lemming Cult Followers insist is a "Man of Peace and there were no wars during his previous presidency", even though at least three wars raged on his watch including one he himself started against America on American soil.

Trump offers to help resolve conflict between India and Pakistan.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/trump-says-india-and-pakistan-agreed-full-immediate-ceasefire[/URL]

"After a long night of talks mediated by the United States, I am pleased to announce that India and Pakistan have agreed to a FULL AND IMMEDIATE CEASEFIRE," Trump said.

The president continued, "Congratulations to both Countries on using Common Sense and Great Intelligence. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

The Guardian provided more color on Rubio's diplomatic mission:

Rubio has been engaged in back-and-forth diplomacy between the two countries in recent days, calling for de-escalation as India and Pakistan have been engaged in daily clashes since Wednesday.

The US's top diplomat "continued to urge both parties to find ways to de-escalate and offered US assistance in starting constructive talks to avoid future conflicts," state department spokesperson Tammy Bruce said in a statement on Saturday.

End of link.

Wow, this is pretty impressive. Way to go Trump and Mario Rubio!

But then:

A Democrat judge just signed an order directing Pakistan and India to resume fighting.

So typical!

[QUOTE][b]Subcmdr[/b] spoke about phones - I also had a Huawei phone- best phone I ever had, hands down better than Crapple and waay cheaper.[/QUOTE]The only part about the above statement I agree with is that it is way cheaper. Better than a iPhone. Not even close. What happened is that I was in the [U]Dominican Republic[/U] at the time my iPhone failed. I refused to pay the 40% over the cost I could buy the phone for from a store in the Dis-United States of America at the time. I saw Trump was banning Huawei. So, that made my decision easy. The model I bought at the time was 10,000 DOP.

[U]Subcmdr buys a iPhone to replace his Huawei[/U]

As soon as I got the chance, I actually booked a flight to SDQ to FLL and purchased a iphone 15 ProMax 512 GB for 1000 USD flat. Then I flew back to SDQ. I paid for a taxis, my plane ticket, breakfast and lunch and still had money left over. Not hotel needed. Left on the first flight out of SDQ. Returned on the last flight back to SDQ. Day trip. I did not want to spend one single minute more in the Dis-United States of America than I needed to. Fist pump on wheels up. Two arms up in the touchdown sign on wheels down. My fellow passengers looked me like I was crazy.

The Dis-United States is fucked up (in so many ways) and expensive as fuck. But you can buy some shit up in that *****. No taxi in the Dominican Republic needed. I had one of my employees drive me to and pick me up from the airport. Best phone I have ever owned. Still use it to this day. Cannot hold a candle to a Huawei. When you have low standards you are satisfied with whatever you can get.

Republican morons and their ideological guests spew a lot of [B]male bovine excrement[/B] from their keyboards when they post. I have to don a Haz-Mat suit before I start to read this thread. Unfortunately there is no removal proceedings that can be implemented against them. So, I am forced to be like Warren G and Nate Dog: Yes I [B]regulate[/B]!

[QUOTE]15 in the mag and one in the hole
[b]2nd Amendment[/b]
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.[/QUOTE]

He thinks that race matter. It does not. What matters is the socio-economic differences in the Dis-United States of America.

Read this slowly Mr. Food on a Bun:

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3001814]Nope, sorry, the US Constitution is for Americans not people who come to our country illegally and commit crimes, and when we were founded as a nation, [b]we had slaves and only land owners could vote[/b]. Before an income tax and women could vote, the USA was the #1 economy in the world.[/QUOTE]Replace the word [B]slaves[/B] with immigrants and [B]land owners[/B] with the 1%.

[U]Who are the one percent?[/U]

[QUOTE]The term "1 percent" typically refers to the wealthiest 1% of individuals or households, as measured by annual income or net worth. Here are some key points about who makes up this elite group:

Income Threshold: To be in the top 1% in the United States, you need to earn at least $787,712 annually as of 2024.
This threshold varies by state, with higher requirements in states like Connecticut ($1,152,254) and California ($1,035,673), and lower requirements in states like Georgia ($700,544) and Texas ($762,090).
Net Worth: To be in the top 1% by net worth, a household would need to have a minimum of $13.7 million.
Occupations and Industries: The top 1% disproportionately includes:
Medical Professionals: Physicians and dentists often fall into this category due to their specialized, in-demand skills.
Business Owners: Small and medium-sized business owners, particularly those in S corporations, partnerships, and limited liability companies, are common. Industries such as professional and technical services, specialty trade contractors, and legal services are particularly represented.
Executives and Managers: High-level executives and managers in various industries, including finance, technology, and sales, often earn top incomes.
Financial Specialists and Accountants: These professionals often have specialized skills that command high salaries.
Wealth Distribution: The top 1% holds a significant portion of the nation's wealth. As of the third quarter of 2024, they controlled $49.2 trillion, or 30.8% of the total wealth in the U.S..
Global Perspective: In a global context, earning $60,000 as a single person with no children can place you in the global elite.
However, the threshold for the top 1% varies by country, with higher thresholds in countries like Monaco ($12.9 million), Luxembourg ($10.8 million), and Switzerland ($8.5 million).
Historical Context: The term "1 percent" gained prominence during the Occupy Wall Street movement in 2011, but the concept of an elite class has existed for much longer. Historically, terms like the "Upper Ten Thousand" and the "Four Hundred" were used to describe the wealthiest and most influential individuals in New York City.
These individuals and households are characterized by their high incomes, significant net worth, and often specialized skills or business ownership, which contribute to their financial success.[/QUOTE]It does not matter what your skin color is. If you are not a part of the 1% in the Dis-United States of America, you ain't shit. Now Mr. Food on the Bun could at least educate himself on the economics of the Dis-United States of American and stop embarrassing himself through displays of ignorance in his many posts.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3002881][B]Male Bovine Excrement[/B] spewing from the keyboards of Republican Morons.

[U]Harley Davison[/U]

Had an absolute lock on the premium motorcycle market. Now the company is floundering in the market that is should be doing better in than anyplace else in the world: The Dis-United States of America. Not only that but they are getting the clocks cleaned worldwide. Here is why:

[URL]https://youtu.be/fzKcAO_o-_Q?si=pfYZBluayH6wObeP[/URL]

I am currently shopping for a motorcycle. I am a new rider. I actually would prefer to represent, but Harley Davison is selling an inferior product at a premium price. I am looking at [B]Zontes[/B] and [B]CFMoto[/B]. But offering ton of tech, more power AND a lower price than even the current Japanese Brands. My vote of my USD has much more power than my vote at the ballot box. I am exercising that power as I pursue my happiness.[/QUOTE]Been a Harley guy for the last 10 years or so, hence the name. Ram Trucks and Harley Davidson bikes. Harleys definitely over priced, but they are worth it if you are into cruisers and live in America and you have the budget. If I lived in Europe with their winding back roads where you can't even open your bike up, no way would I buy a cruiser, they are long haul highway bikes. If you live in USA and your going to be doing at least half your miles on the highway, personally I think Harley is the best. Indians are nice too, but when you see the fit and finish in person and the re sale value of a Harley, its clear to me who the best pick is. Harley after Markey is way over priced as well. If your on any kind of budget and your not a die hard, Harley doesn't really make sense. If you really want to get into riding and you live in USA and you have the budget, I think Harley is a no brainer. I love takin my bike to airport for my trips. Always jump the curb at short term parking and don't pay for parking on the way out. Saves me time and money every time.

If I was to get a city bike, Kawasaki H2 and Honda cb1000 r are bullet proof and have power for days. I am too old for sport bikes, well almost. The Suzuki Katana looks sick as well. If I was to go for best bang for your buck jap cruiser, Rebel 1100 T is a great deal and again Honda reliability. It will out last you. Personally I would risk a Chinese bike, but that is your choice. I am not the expert but have driven a lot of bikes, just my two cents.

I been riding 2019 Fatbob, fucking love that bike. Had a Kawasaki and Honda before that.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3002881][B]Male Bovine Excrement[/B] spewing from the keyboards of Republican Morons.

[U]Harley Davison[/U]

Had an absolute lock on the premium motorcycle market. Now the company is floundering in the market that is should be doing better in than anyplace else in the world: The Dis-United States of America. Not only that but they are getting the clocks cleaned worldwide. Here is why:[/QUOTE]Sorry to chime in one more time as its not really politics related, but for anyone who buys Harley stock from time to time like me. The reason the company is not doing well is simply because younger generation of Americans aren't riding for recreation anymore. Harleys used to be a blue collar man's weekend toy, a lot more guys or just people in general are not getting into motorcycles as there's many more forms of entertainment which isn't as dangerous. If you look at all the other major motorcycle brands around the world, they are selling bikes as a means of transportation first, not a high priced recreational toy like a Harley. Especially the Asia / Jap brands, Harley will never be able to break into that market because they have workers who will build quality bikes for 1/5 the price of an american worker on top of years of experience in building these bikes as efficiently as possible. Harley is going to downsize a lot. It will have to come to terms with selling a lot less bikes. Like I said before though, if you live in USA and your a middle age dude who just wants to cruise highway on the weekeneds. Nothing really comes close to what a Harley can give you. Every part in that bike is super high quality and the feel of the ride to the fit and finish is the best money can buy. Personally, I could care less Harley went slightly woke, which I don't think they really even did. Maybe I am wrong and some one can point that out to me. The new model street and road glides are fucking sick, just got to get rid of that cheap chinese smart screens and go back to old school bullet proof analog dials and instruments.

The dumbest human to ever be allowed to sit at the desk in the Oval Office, Donald J. Trump, is scrambling in all directions in a desperate attempt to at least get back to where Obama had gotten with Iran's nuclear status before he, Donald J. Trump, stupidly abandoned it. And all while a War between two nuclear powers, India and Pakistan, escalates to a degree that "never wouda' happened on Obama's watch or Biden's watch or Hillary's watch."

[B]Iran, US conclude 4th round of talks over Tehran's nuclear program.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/11/iran-us-conclude-4th-round-of-talks-over-tehrans-nuclear-program.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]Trump has repeatedly threatened to unleash airstrikes targeting Irans program if a deal isnt reached. Iranian officials increasingly warn that they could pursue a nuclear weapon with their stockpile of uranium enriched to near weapons-grade levels. Meanwhile, Israel has threatened to strike Irans nuclear facilities on their own if it feels threatened, further complicating tensions in the Mideast already spiked by the Israel-Hamas war in the Gaza Strip.
............
Irans 2015 nuclear deal with world powers capped Tehrans enrichment at 3.67% and reduced its uranium stockpile to 300 kilograms (661 pounds). That level is enough for nuclear power plants, but far below weapons-grade levels of 90%.

Since the nuclear deals collapse in 2018 with Trumps unilateral withdrawal of the U.S. from the accord, Iran has abandoned all limits on its program and enriched uranium to up to 60% purity a short, technical step from weapons-grade levels. There have also been a series of attacks at sea and on land in recent years, stemming from the tensions even before the Israel-Hamas war began.[/QUOTE]The Repub / Trump 2nd Term Historic Disaster race is on!

What will be the order of Trump's most likely achievements?

A Great Repub Recession / Depression first?

Trump's Pandemic Part 2 coming in a close second?

Wrapping it all up with an all-out 3 or 4-way Nuclear Holocaust War?

All of the above at the same time, a 3-way heat?

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3003062]The dumbest human to ever be allowed to sit at the desk in the Oval Office, Donald J. Trump, is scrambling in all directions in a desperate attempt to at least get back to where Obama had gotten with Iran's nuclear status before he, Donald J. Trump, stupidly abandoned it. And all while a War between two nuclear powers, India and Pakistan, escalates to a degree that "never wouda' happened on Obama's watch or Biden's watch or Hillary's watch."

[B]Iran, US conclude 4th round of talks over Tehran's nuclear program.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/11/iran-us-conclude-4th-round-of-talks-over-tehrans-nuclear-program.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

The Repub / Trump 2nd Term Historic Disaster race is on!

What will be the order of Trump's most likely achievements?

A Great Repub Recession / Depression first?

Trump's Pandemic Part 2 coming in a close second?

Wrapping it all up with an all-out 3 or 4-way Nuclear Holocaust War?

All of the above at the same time, a 3-way heat?[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2025/05/11/bill-maher-democrats-went-from-men-can-have-babies-to-we-like-the-terrorists/[/URL]

As the aphorism goes "when you're in a hole stop digging" lolololol.

Ie, ET and Spidy just don't have a fucking clue.

Allahu Akbar.

Good a new US / Peruvian pope, when the devil is in USA. We will see if pope is really efficient to fight orange devil who wants to degrade our world with USA low quality.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3003104][URL]https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2025/05/11/bill-maher-democrats-went-from-men-can-have-babies-to-we-like-the-terrorists/[/URL]

As the aphorism goes "when you're in a hole stop digging" lolololol.

Ie, ET and Spidy just don't have a fucking clue..[/QUOTE]Bill Maher has never met an adult who thinks "a man can get pregnant. "

Nor has he ever met a Democratic Party leader pushing to "Defund the Police". Certainly not the way Repubs have tried to do that over and over again.

Bill Maher is a typically pro Repub "bothsider" MSM pundit happy to serve as a Public Relations tool for Trump and any other Repub if doing so will help Repubs win elections.

He has been that way at least since he was more responsible than any other pundit with a weekly GOP Election Rally tv show for getting the 2nd Worst President in USA History elected, GW Bush, back in 2000. His cuddly and lovable dinner date Donald J. Trump being The Worst.

But but but Donnie Two Dolls is stealing all those Billions and Billions and Billions of dollars China was going to give us to pay for everything we want and need like Childcare because Childcare is Childcare and groceries, god I'm glad Trump invented that word, and make all Americans rich from those Trump Tariffs!

He denies America those Billions and Billions and Billions of free money from other countries every time he buckles and caves on 1 Tariff percentage point!

[B]USA And China agree to slash tariffs for 90 days in major trade breakthrough.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/12/us-and-china-agree-to-slash-tariffs-for-90-days.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]The U.S. and China on Monday agreed to suspend most tariffs on each others goods in a move that shows a thawing of trade tensions between the worlds two largest economies.

The deal means reciprocal tariffs between both countries will be cut from 125% to 10%. The U.S.′ 20% duties on Chinese imports relating to fentanyl will remain in place, meaning total tariffs on China stand at 30%.

We had very productive talks and I believe that the venue, here in Lake Geneva, added great equanimity to what was a very positive process, U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said in a news conference.[/QUOTE]Oh, BTW, has somebody finally explained to Donnie Two Dolls than an illegally-enacted presidential Executive Order to raise, lower, raise, lower, buckle and cave, raise, lower, raise, buckle and cave, etc etc tariffs is not a "Trade Deal", whether it is enacted on goods from the United Kingdom, China, Mars, The Moon or anywhere else?

[QUOTE]If I lived in Europe with their winding back roads where you can't even open your bike up, no way would I buy a cruiser, they are long haul highway bikes.[/QUOTE][B]Republican Morons are like the owners of Harley-Davisons[/B]

The reason why they think they cannot open up their bikes on the twisties is because they don't know how to control their motorcycles. They know how to ride fast in a straight line.

I took a course to learn how to control my motorcycle. It concluded with a half day on there track. Where we put all of our lessons we learned in the control setting (acceleration, shifting, braking, hitting the apex of the curve by getting your body into the proper position for the lean.

Republican Morons cannot do that. All of the work that is done in that situation is done by the rider. There is not way for a Republican Moron to pay someone to do the work for them. Unless they are the owner of a race team. No, a Republican Moron cannot do the work for themselves to control the motorcycle and that is why they buy big, loud, heavy, overpriced machines in order to feel cool and go really fast in a straight line. A individual that knows how to ride really puts the work in themselves. There is simply no way around it. That is simply not in the character of Republican Moron.

Now tell me: [U]How did Harley-Davison screw up a market where they had a monopoly?[/U] Because they failed to recognize the changing market in the Dis-United States of America.

[QUOTE][b]Motorcycle Sales by Manufacturer 2024 USA[/b]
Based on the available data, here are the total motorcycle sales by major manufacturers in the United States for 2024:
[b]Honda:[/b] As of December 2024, Honda held the largest share of the U.S. motorcycle market, marginally outpacing Harley-Davidson.4
[b]Harley-Davidson[/b]: The company reported a 7% decline in retail unit sales in 2024.3
[b]BMW[/b]: BMW was the standout with record unit sales, although specific numbers are not provided.3
[b]Yamaha,*Kawasaki[/b], and*[b]Suzuki[/b]: Together, these brands constitute around 30% of the U.S. motorcycle market.4
The exact sales figures for each brand are not provided in the context, but Honda and Yamaha, Kawasaki, and Suzuki together make up nearly half of the U.S. motorcycle market. Harley-Davidson's sales declined by 7% in 2024, while BMW saw record unit sales.[/QUOTE]- Credit AI.

But now, best motos are Ducati, Aprilia and BMW, not anymore Japanese, nor US.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3002561]But you're wrong again of course.

Scumbag Bubba gutted Glass Steagall which caused the Global crisis in 2008 and Scumbag Barry swept all the dirt under the rug.

With the help of scumbags like Rahm Emanuel and Tim Geithner et al.

[URL]https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/economic-intelligence/2012/08/27/repeal-of-glass-steagall-caused-the-financial-crisis[/URL][/QUOTE][I][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/I] No, YOU couldn't be MORE WRONG!

Glass-Steagall, was put in place to protect the [B]commercial banks.[/B] Of the biggest firms that FAILED under the Repubs/George W. "Bushitler" admin in 2008 Subprime Crisis, were the [B]investment banks[/B] of Lehman, Bear Stearns and [b]the insurer[/b] AIG, that NEVER relied on OR were ever covered under Glass-Steagall protections.

Also Glass-Steagall, NEVER prevented or covered the derivatives explosion of credit default swaps (CDS), collateralized debt obligations (CDOs) and "legalized unregulated gambling", or the multi-billion dollar predatory leading that took place under firms like, Countrywide and Wells Fargo.

[i][b]You know...for all your whining and whinging, you do, [/b][/i]it won't detract or dismiss from the FACT, yet another recession, depression and financial crisis took place under a pitiful George W. "Bushitler" and Hank Paulson, clown show Repub admin.

Next time, [B]THINK B4 U ANSWER![/B]

[u]2004 SEC Leverage Rule Change, that largely led to the 2008 Subprime Mortgage Crisis:[/u]

Everyone knows, as it's widely reported, that under the dumbass Republican admin of George W. "Bushitler" and Hank Paulson, the [B]2004 SEC Leverage Rule Change[/B], and policy change, that let the banks over leverage and barrow 30x their assets with mortgage-backed securities, something they were NEVER allowed to do, with regular securities.

[B]The SEC Rule That Broke Wall Street[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2012/03/21/the-sec-rule-that-broke-wall-street.html[/URL]

[B]In 2004, rule change at SEC set the stage for a credit crisis[/B]
[URL]https://theworld.org/stories/2013/08/14/2004-rule-change-sec-set-stage-credit-crisis[/URL]

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3002561]So stop all the lying already it doesn't fool me.[/QUOTE]
[U]STOP FOOLING YOURSELF![/U] [B]10[/B] of the last [B]11[/b] U.S. recessions began under Repub presidents, since the 1950's. Repub presidents and admins have ALWAYS BEEN ASSOCIATED with bad economic disasters, in history.

It is dis/misinformed answers like yours, WHY THE BILLIONAIRE CLASS, enjoys PICKING YOUR POCKETS! [I][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/I].

"No, YOU couldn't be MORE WRONG!

Also Glass-Steagall, NEVER prevented or covered the derivatives explosion of credit default swaps and "legalized unregulated gambling", or the multi-billion dollar predatory leading that took place under firms like, Countrywide and Wells Fargo.

Everyone knows, as it's widely reported, that under the dumbass Republican admin of George W. "Bushitler" and Hank Paulson, the, and policy change, that let the banks over leverage and barrow 30 x their assets with mortgage-backed securities, something they were NEVER allowed to do, with regular securities.

USA Recessions began under Repub presidents, since the 1950's.

It is dis / misinformed answers like yours, WHY THE BILLIONAIRE CLASS, enjoys PICKING YOUR POCKETS!

Repeal of Glass-Steagall Caused the Financial Crisis.

The repeal of the law separating commercial and investment banking caused the 2008 financial crisis.

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The oldest propaganda technique is to repeat a lie emphatically and often until it is taken for the truth. Something like this is going on now with regard to banks and the financial crisis. The big bank boosters and analysts who should know better are repeating the falsehood that repeal of Glass-Steagall had nothing to do with the Panic of 2008.

In fact, the financial crisis might not have happened at all but for the 1999 repeal of the Glass-Steagall law that separated commercial and investment banking for seven decades. If there is any hope of avoiding another meltdown, it's critical to understand why Glass-Steagall repeal helped to cause the crisis. Without a return to something like Glass-Steagall, another greater catastrophe is just a matter of time.

History is a good place to begin. After the Depression of 1920-21, the United States embarked on a period of economic prosperity known as the Roaring Twenties. It was a time of innovation, especially in consumer goods such as automobiles, radio, and refrigeration. Along with these goods came new forms of consumer credit and bank expansion. National City Bank (forerunner of today's Citibank) and Chase Bank opened offices to sell securities side-by-side with traditional banking products like deposits and loans.

As the decade progressed, the stock market boomed and eventually reached bubble territory. Along with the bubble came market manipulation in the form of organized pools that would ramp up the price of stocks and dump them on unsuspecting suckers just before the stock collapsed. Banks joined in by offering stocks of holding companies that were leveraged pyramid schemes and other securities backed by dubious assets.

In 1929, the music stopped, the stock market crashed and the Great Depression began. It took eight years from the start of the boom to the bust. Subsequent investigations revealed the extent of the fraud that preceded the crash. In 1933, Congress passed Glass-Steagall in response to the abuses. Banks would be allowed to take deposits and make loans. Brokers would be allowed to underwrite and sell securities. But no firm could do both due to conflicts of interest and risks to insured deposits. From 1933 to 1999, there were very few large bank failures and no financial panics comparable to the Panic of 2008. The law worked exactly as intended.

In 1999, Democrats led by President Bill Clinton and Republicans led by Sen. Phil Gramm joined forces to repeal Glass-Steagall at the behest of the big banks. What happened over the next eight years was an almost exact replay of the Roaring Twenties. Once again, banks originated fraudulent loans and once again they sold them to their customers in the form of securities. The bubble peaked in 2007 and collapsed in 2008. The hard-earned knowledge of 1933 had been lost in the arrogance of 1999.

The bank supporters' attacks on this clear-as-a-bell narrative deserve a hearing to show how flimsy they are. One bank supporter says you cannot blame banks for fraudulent loan originations because that was done by unscrupulous mortgage brokers. This is nonsense. The brokers would not have been able to fund the loans in the first place if the banks had not been buying their production.

Another apologist says the fact that no big banks failed in the crisis proves they were not the cause of the problem. This is also ludicrous. The reason the big banks did not fail was because they were bailed out by the government. Clearly the banks would have failed but for the bailouts. Bank balance sheets were neck-deep in liar loans and underwater home equity lines of credit. The fact that banks did not fail proves nothing except that they were too big to fail.

Yet another big bank spokesman says that nonbanks such as Lehman and Bear Stearns were more to blame for the crisis. This ignores the fact that nonbanks get their funding from banks in the form of mortgages, repurchase agreements, and lines of credit. Without the big banks providing easy credit on bad collateral like structured products, the nonbanks would not have been able to leverage themselves.

It is true that the financial crisis has enough blame to go around. Borrowers were reckless, brokers were greedy, rating agencies were negligent, customers were naïve, and government encouraged the fiasco with unrealistic housing goals and unlimited lines of credit at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

Yet, the fact that there were so many parties to blame should not be used to deflect blame from the most responsible parties of all—the big banks. Without the banks providing financing to the mortgage brokers and Wall Street while underwriting their own issues of toxic securities, the entire pyramid scheme would never have got off the ground.

It was Glass-Steagall that prevented the banks from using insured depositories to underwrite private securities and dump them on their own customers. This ability along with financing provided to all the other players was what kept the bubble-machine going for so long.

Now, when memories are fresh, is the time to reinstate Glass-Steagall to prevent a third cycle of fraud on customers. Without the separation of banking and underwriting, it's just a matter of time before banks repeat their well-honed practice of originating garbage loans and stuffing them down customers' throats. Congress had the answer in 1933. Congress lost its way in 1999. Now is the chance to get back to the garden.

You are just a want to be shill for Anti American Wall Street, just like ET.

If its very bad for America and Americans you love it.

If its very good for America and Americans you hate it.

CNBC links? Seriously? Why no WSJ links lolololol you're a lame ass want to be shill.

And you are a treasonous bastard that belongs in a cell with Bubba and his hideous husband, for giving Aid and Comfort to the enemy.

I hear DOGE / Elon is using AI to hunt online for Anti American activities online, I sure hope they get you.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3003260][B]Republican Morons are like the owners of Harley-Davisons[/B]

The reason why they think they cannot open up their bikes on the twisties is because they don't know how to control their motorcycles. They know how to ride fast in a straight line.

I took a course to learn how to control my motorcycle. It concluded with a half day on there track. Where we put all of our lessons we learned in the control setting (acceleration, shifting, braking, hitting the apex of the curve by getting your body into the proper position for the lean.

Republican Morons cannot do that. All of the work that is done in that situation is done by the rider. There is not way for a Republican Moron to pay someone to do the work for them. Unless they are the owner of a race team. No, a Republican Moron cannot do the work for themselves to control the motorcycle and that is why they buy big, loud, heavy, overpriced machines in order to feel cool and go really fast in a straight line. A individual that knows how to ride really puts the work in themselves. There is simply no way around it. That is simply not in the character of Republican Moron.

Now tell me: [U]How did Harley-Davison screw up a market where they had a monopoly?[/U] Because they failed to recognize the changing market in the Dis-United States of America.

- Credit AI.[/QUOTE]Politics aside, I am speaking purely riding here. You can own a Harley / cruiser in Europe and you will get by just fine. Now if you want the best riding experience possible for cities and areas that have winding curvy roads and shorts areas to accelerate in, then a standard motorcycle or a sport bike is going to be immensely more enjoyable. You can burn through corners and winding roads all day, you simply can't do that with the lean angle and peg position of a Harley cruiser or even worse a bagger. The downside is after 30 minutes sitting on a sport bike your back and ass is going to be killing you. They are not set up for long rides, some are more than others. See the Kawsaki Versys 1100. Its the main reason why Harleys barely sell in Europe, its not the Tariffs, its a bike designed for American Highways. I ll buy a Triumph all day over a Harley if I lived in UK. That bike is perfectly suited for the roads of UK. You can be the greatest rider on Earth, but its still going to be a shitty ride taking a Harley through urban streets compared to a sport or standard bike.

Again, if your doing mostly highway miles, the cruiser set up is unmatched. The low rev torque and power of the engines will run strong all day and day after day. Its perfect for touring the country like many riders do. Its also designed to be as stable as possible at highway speeds for long periods of time. You can run a Harley for 500 miles straight at 90 mph with one hand. I have, its awesome. You can't do that on a sport bike, engine revs too high and will burn out prematurely as well as it will be super uncomfortable after your first tank of gas.

Decide what type of riding you want to do and where you want to do it and then choose a bike, but hey your money, do what you want at the end of the day.

As for Harley, they def dropped the ball not changing with the market, but sometimes shit just goes downhill and it is out of your control. No matter what, Americans just aren't getting into riding like they used to. Same thing happened to trains and whale oil once upon a time. Industries rise and fall as technology and societal needs and values evolve. American men ain't what they used to be.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3003173]Bill Maher has never met an adult who thinks "a man can get pregnant. "

Nor has he ever met a Democratic Party leader pushing to "Defund the Police". Certainly not the way Repubs have tried to do that over and over again.

Bill Maher is a typically pro Repub "bothsider" MSM pundit happy to serve as a Public Relations tool for Trump and any other Repub if doing so will help Repubs win elections.

He has been that way at least since he was more responsible than any other pundit with a weekly GOP Election Rally tv show for getting the 2nd Worst President in USA History elected, GW Bush, back in 2000. His cuddly and lovable dinner date Donald J. Trump being The Worst.[/QUOTE]Nah, Bill Maher just tells like it is and calls people out on their bullshit. If anything I would say for the longest time he leaned strong left, then left went to extreme for even him.

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;3002566]I respect Buffett's investing wisdom, but I think he is a nut job politically. As for being hood winked, you are being hood winked if you think Buffett is a political genius.

As for not minding paying taxes, that is the biggest load of bullshit I have ever heard. I know someone in partnership with Buffett and he said Buffett was a cheap ass mother fucker. [/QUOTE]
WOW!...you must REALLY be, in some kind of excruciating PAIN?

What I mean is, after finding out, one of YOUR BIGGEST financial investor heroes, is in prefect alignment with what I'm saying, w/r to the billionaires and corporations paying their fair of taxes, for the social good and benefit of a well functioning society, [U]must REALLY just eat you up inside![/U] Arhhh...you poor thing!

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;3002566]As for the bullshit on raising taxes, he is just towing the Democratic company line. Someone who does math as well as he does knows you cannot tax your way out of the debt / deficit problem. The numbers do not add up. ...

To solve the deficit issue, all Americans are going to have to come together and sacrifice. For me, that means more in taxes. For you, that means lower handouts. I am willing to do my part if everyone else is willing to do theirs but not you. You keep making up these bogeymen. MAGA people need to make more. Corporations need to pay more. It is everybody but you, and I do not need to know anything else about you other than that to know what a loser you really are.[/QUOTE]

Get this, Elvis 2008:

[b]A group of wealthy Canadians calling themselves 'Patriotic Millionaires' (May 11th, 2025) [/b]is banding together to lobby governments to increase the amount of taxes they must pay. [url]https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/patriotic-millionaires-canada-taxes-1.7530936[/url]

Yes, some Canadian millionaires are lobbying for a tax change! [i]Why?...They want to pay more![/i]

So even Canadians, are arguing and speaking up to the injustice that [i]"...the system is rigged to tax wages more than wealth and the present inequality in taxes, don't benefit a proper balance in society as a whole".[/i] They truly understand and "get it", that [i][b]"...good social services make Canada a better place to build businesses"[/b][/i]

When one of the world's richest men and Canadian 'Patriotic Millionaires' (for example) are speaking out against unfair tax system and want to pay more, it obviously is not something, the so called, Elvis 2008 "Paycheck Superheroes", are EVER going to understand.

But by all means continue, to live in the self-inflicted myth, of the [i][b]Repub "American Cowboy"[/b][/i] and the nonsensical associated culture-wars, perpetrated by this toxic myth.

The best motorcycle is the one you swing your leg over and are riding at the moment.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3003275]But now, best motos are Ducati, Aprilia and BMW, not anymore Japanese, nor US.[/QUOTE]Which one do you own? You need to define best. Why do you think those models or best? I suspect you don't ride. You have never mentioned it. Only your hate of all things EV. I actually bought a AJEV scooter for running errands around town.

I am a poor (insert color of your choice here) man trying to make it in a (insert color of your choice here) man's world. [B]Cash rules everything around me[/B] since I don't have much. I am looking to get the most for my dollar. Right now that is looking like [B]CF Moto[/B]. The China Man is fucking the market up. In a good way! More tech, more power, less cost. That is why this topic is political. I see mother fucks posting about China this and China that. But those same mother fucks have exactly zero experience with Chinese motorcycles. That's cool. If they want to speak from a base that shows they have no knowledge on the issue that is fine.

I would like a BMW but that is a pure vanity purchase to have the symbol on my tank. No real reason to spend the money. I would argue from my personal research that Chinese are making the best bikes in the world market today.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3003041]Personally I would risk a Chinese bike, but that is your choice. I am not the expert but have driven a lot of bikes, just my two cents.[/QUOTE]But you haven't ridden a Chinese Bike but you have an opinion on it. Exactly how did you form your opinion?

It is my choice how as a grown man I spend my hard earned dollars [B]RamDavison[/B]. That is magnanimous of you to grant me your permission to spend my money how I choose. It's called the [I]pursuit of happiness[/I]. I suggest you check the Declaration of Independence (your country of origin) for further details.

[B]ROTFLMAO![/B]

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3003275]But now, best motos are Ducati, Aprilia and BMW, not anymore Japanese, nor US.[/QUOTE]Especially adventure bikes. I think for everyday cost effective transportation, still can't beat them Japs though. A lot of really good bikes are being made these days. I would die to ride that V4 through Italy.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3003176]But but but Donnie Two Dolls is stealing all those Billions and Billions and Billions of dollars China was going to give us to pay for everything we want and need like Childcare because Childcare is Childcare and groceries, god I'm glad Trump invented that word, and make all Americans rich from those Trump Tariffs!

He denies America those Billions and Billions and Billions of free money from other countries every time he buckles and caves on 1 Tariff percentage point!

[B]USA And China agree to slash tariffs for 90 days in major trade breakthrough.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/12/us-and-china-agree-to-slash-tariffs-for-90-days.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

Oh, BTW, has somebody finally explained to Donnie Two Dolls than an illegally-enacted presidential Executive Order to raise, lower, raise, lower, buckle and cave, raise, lower, raise, buckle and cave, etc etc tariffs is not a "Trade Deal", whether it is enacted on goods from the United Kingdom, China, Mars, The Moon or anywhere else?[/QUOTE]Your lame attempts to gaslight ISG are absurdly weak, give it up you're just wasting your electricity.

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2025/05/12/peacemaker-in-chief-british-peer-calls-for-trump-to-be-awarded-nobel-peace-prize-for-preventing-india-pakistan-war/[/URL]

Almost no more tax for Chinese products. Trump is really a dangerous, ridiculous clown. Bullshiting with no balls. Many Chinese toys are dangerous for children.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3003347]Your lame attempts to gaslight ISG are absurdly weak, give it up you're just wasting your electricity.

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2025/05/12/peacemaker-in-chief-british-peer-calls-for-trump-to-be-awarded-nobel-peace-prize-for-preventing-india-pakistan-war/[/URL][/QUOTE][B]India rejects Trump's claim his trade concessions de-escalated India-Pakistan tensions.[/B]

[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/india-rejects-trumps-claim-trade-160155064.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAL3MyBR_rYrzTmh_f1UGFaVRI-cExPvIvcggnY2xdATx2cGUWicgKYhtvqTCoxtjyDyFoR351PVDIFKPkI4Vy0zg1GLHAnRspSly8lYJ4h-Jt-Ur6nzWNqIMNUakkIkKwZWLdoNL7H1T5ehHalQp5Dzm6SxwMKBaEvSqCX5GQcgc[/URL]

[QUOTE]NEW DELHI (AP) The Indian government on Tuesday rejected U.S. President Donald Trumps claim that he helped broker a ceasefire between India and Pakistan in exchange for trade concessions.
..........
New Delhi also rejected Trump's offer for mediation on Tuesday.

We have a longstanding national position that any issues related to the federally controlled union territory of Jammu and Kashmir must be addressed by India and Pakistan bilaterally. There has been no change to the stated policy, Jaiswal said.[/QUOTE]Wringing your hands and begging, "Come on you guys, just stop it" rarely wins anyone a Nobel Peace Prize.

Maybe Trump can buy one by lowering his ilegally-enacted tariffs on Norway.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3003308]Nah, Bill Maher just tells like it is and calls people out on their bullshit. If anything I would say for the longest time he leaned strong left, then left went to extreme for even him.[/QUOTE]The right loves him because he lies about the Dems every week on his shows, repeats the most ridiculous MAGA-fabricated nonsense about them. I would say MAGAs should really love him considering the margin of victory for Trump in the only three swing states that mattered was so razor-thin it very likely could have hinged on just those MAGA lies Bill Maher repeated for them to his audience every week for the past two years.

Aside from the debunked lies he continued to repeat about the Dems, his criticism of what he objects to with Trump and the Repubs is emotionally detached, amused, delivered in a way so it would not be taken too seriously vs the criticism he has for the Dems, mostly lies, delivered with venom and disgust.

He has been practically 100% MAGA for a couple of years.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3003380]Almost no more tax for Chinese products. Trump is really a dangerous, ridiculous clown. Bullshiting with no balls. Many Chinese toys are dangerous for children.[/QUOTE]Even Murdoch's Wall Street Journal had to admit Trump essentially bent over, grabbed his knees, unable to touch his calves much less his ankles, and took it up the ass without [B]KY-Jelly[/B] from Xi and All Of China:

[B]The Great Trump Tariff Rollback.
The President started a trade war with Adam Smith. He lost.[/B]

[URL]https://www.wsj.com/opinion/u-s-china-trade-deal-tariffs-donald-trump-xi-jinping-a561d16b[/URL]

You know, it might be marginally ok for him to jerk himself and everyone else off when he is buying or selling one of his failed golf resorts from or to a gaggle of drunks.

But all of this in, out, confusion, incoherence, blithering blather, feigned or genuine incompetence doesn't work when he's dealing with real world businesses, the national and global economy.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3003490]Even Murdoch's Wall Street Journal had to admit Trump essentially bent over, grabbed his knees, unable to touch his calves much less his ankles, and took it up the ass without [B]KY-Jelly[/B] from Xi and All Of China:

[B]The Great Trump Tariff Rollback.
The President started a trade war with Adam Smith. He lost.[/B]

[URL]https://www.wsj.com/opinion/u-s-china-trade-deal-tariffs-donald-trump-xi-jinping-a561d16b[/URL]

You know, it might be marginally ok for him to jerk himself and everyone else off when he is buying or selling one of his failed golf resorts from or to a gaggle of drunks.

But all of this in, out, confusion, incoherence, blithering blather, feigned or genuine incompetence doesn't work when he's dealing with real world businesses, the national and global economy.[/QUOTE]There Are Two Chinas, and America Must Understand Both.

The technological success that has captured the attention of many in the United States is one aspect of the Chinese economy. There's another, gloomy one.

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Two Chinas inhabit the American imagination: One is a technology and manufacturing superpower poised to lead the world. The other is an economy that's on the verge of collapse.

Each reflects a real aspect of China.

One China — let's call it hopeful China — is defined by companies like the A. I. Start-up DeepSeek, the electric vehicle giant BYD and the tech powerhouse Huawei. All are innovation leaders.

Jensen Huang, the chief executive of the Silicon Valley chip giant Nvidia, said China was "not behind" the United States in artificial intelligence development. Quite a few pundits have declared that China would dominate the 21st century.

The other China — gloomy China — tells a different story: sluggish consumer spending, rising unemployment, a chronic housing crisis and a business community bracing for the impact of the trade war.

President Trump, as he tries to negotiate a resolution of a trade war, must reckon with both versions of America's arch geopolitical rival.

The stakes have never been higher to understand China. It's not enough to fear its successes, or take solace in its economic hardships. To know America's biggest rival requires seeing how the two Chinas are able to coexist.

"Americans have too many imagined notions about China," said Dong Jielin, a former Silicon Valley executive who recently moved back to San Francisco after spending 14 years in China teaching and researching the country's science and technology policies. "Some of them hope to solve American problems using Chinese methods, but that clearly won't work. They don't realize that China's solutions come with a lot of pain. ".

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Just like the United States, China is a giant country full of disparities: coastal vs. Inland, north vs. South, urban vs. Rural, rich vs. Poor, state-owned vs. Private sector, Gen X vs. Gen Z. The ruling Communist Party itself is full of contradictions. It avows socialism, but recoils from giving its citizens a strong social safety net.

Chinese people, too, grapple with these contradictions.

Despite the trade war, the Chinese tech entrepreneurs and investors I talked to over the past few weeks were more upbeat than any time in the past three years. Their hope started with DeepSeek's breakthrough in January. Two venture capitalists told me that they planned to come out of a period of hibernation they started after Beijing's crackdown on the tech sector in 2021. Both said they were looking to invest in Chinese A. I. Applications and robotics.

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But they are much less optimistic about the economy — the gloomy China.

The 10 executives, investors and economists I interviewed said they believed that China's advances in tech would not be enough to pull the country out of its economic slump. Advanced manufacturing makes up about only 6 percent of China's output, much smaller than real estate, which contributes about 17 percent of gross domestic product even after a sharp slowdown.

When I asked them whether China could beat the United States in the trade war, nobody said yes. But they all agreed that China's pain threshold was much higher.

It's not hard to understand the anxiety felt by Americans frustrated with their country's struggles to build and manufacture. China has constructed more high-speed rail lines than the rest of the world, deployed more industrial robots per 10,000 manufacturing workers than any country except South Korea and Singapore and now leads globally in electric vehicles, solar panels, drones and several other advanced industries.

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Many of China's most successful companies have gained resilience from the economic downturn and are better prepared for the bad days ahead. "They've been DOGE-ing for a long time," said Eric Wong, the founder of the New York hedge fund Stillpoint who visits China every quarter, referring to the Trump administration's cost-cutting effort known as the Department of Government Efficiency. "By comparison, the USA Has been living in excess for a long time. ".

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But as we marvel at China's so-called miracles, it is necessary to ask: At what cost? Not just financial, but human.

China's top-down innovation model, heavily reliant on government subsidies and investment, has proved to be both inefficient and wasteful. Much like the overbuilding in the real estate sector that triggered a crisis and erased much of Chinese household wealth, excessive industrial capacity has deepened imbalances in the economy and raised questions about the model's sustainability, particularly if broader conditions worsen.

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The electric vehicle industry shows the force of the two Chinas. In 2018, the country had nearly 500 E. V. Makers. By 2024, about 70 remained. Among the casualties was Singulato Motors, a start-up that raised $2. 3 billion from investors, including local governments in three provinces. Over eight years, the company failed to deliver a single car and filed for bankruptcy in 2023.

The Chinese government tolerates wasteful investment in its chosen initiatives, helping fuel overcapacity. But it is reluctant to make the kind of substantial investments in rural pensions and health insurance that would help lift consumption.

"Technological innovation alone cannot resolve China's structural economic imbalances or cyclical deflationary pressures," Robin Xing, the chief China economist at Morgan Stanley, said in a research note. "In fact," he wrote, "recent advances in technology may reinforce policymakers' confidence in the current path, increasing the risk of resource and capital misallocation. ".

The Chinese leadership's obsession with technological self-reliance and industrial capacity is not helping its biggest challenges: unemployment, weak consumption and a reliance on exports, not to mention the housing crisis.

Officially, China's urban unemployment rate stands at 5 percent, excluding jobless migrant workers. Youth unemployment is 17 percent. The real numbers are believed to be much higher. This summer alone, China's colleges will graduate more than 12 million new job seekers.

Mr. Trump was not wrong in saying factories are closing and people are losing their jobs in China.

In 2020 Li Keqiang, then the premier, said the foreign trade sector, directly or indirectly, accounted for the employment of 180 million Chinese. "A downturn in foreign trade will almost certainly hit the job market hard," he said at the onset of the pandemic. Tariffs could be much more devastating.

Beijing is playing down the effect of the trade war, but as negotiators held talks last weekend with their USA Counterparts, its impact was obvious. In April, Chinese factories experienced the sharpest monthly slowdown in more than a year while shipments to the United States plunged 21 percent from a year earlier.

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All of the economic fallout will be shouldered by people like a man I spoke to, with the surname Chen, a former university librarian in a megacity in southern China. He asked that I not use his full name and where he lived to shield his identity from the authorities.

Mr. Chen lives in the gloomy China. He stopped taking the vaunted high-speed trains because they cost five times as much as a bus. Flying is often cheaper, too.

He lost his job last year because the university, one of the top ones in the country, was facing a budget shortfall. Many state-run institutions have had to let people go because many local governments, even in the wealthiest cities, are deeply in debt.

Because he's in his late 30's, Mr. Chen is considered too old for most jobs. He and his wife had given up on buying a home. Now with the trade war, he expects that the economy will weaken further and that his job prospects will be dimmer.

"I've become even more cautious with spending," he said. "I weigh every penny. ".

GOD (AKA Donald J Trump) is FUCKING GREAT.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3003341]The best motorcycle is the one you swing your leg over and are riding at the moment.

Which one do you own? You need to define best. Why do you think those models or best? I suspect you don't ride. You have never mentioned it. Only your hate of all things EV. I actually bought a AJEV scooter for running errands around town.

I am a poor (insert color of your choice here) man trying to make it in a (insert color of your choice here) man's world. [B]Cash rules everything around me[/B] since I don't have much. I am looking to get the most for my dollar. Right now that is looking like [B]CF Moto[/B]. The China Man is fucking the market up. In a good way! More tech, more power, less cost. That is why this topic is political. I see mother fucks posting about China this and China that. But those same mother fucks have exactly zero experience with Chinese motorcycles. That's cool. If they want to speak from a base that shows they have no knowledge on the issue that is fine.

I would like a BMW but that is a pure vanity purchase to have the symbol on my tank. No real reason to spend the money. I would argue from my personal research that Chinese are making the best bikes in the world market today.

But you haven't ridden a Chinese Bike but you have an opinion on it. Exactly how did you form your opinion?

It is my choice how as a grown man I spend my hard earned dollars [B]RamDavison[/B]. That is magnanimous of you to grant me your permission to spend my money how I choose. It's called the [I]pursuit of happiness[/I]. I suggest you check the Declaration of Independence (your country of origin) for further details.

[B]ROTFLMAO![/B][/QUOTE]I have made the mistake of trying to save a few bucks by going with a newer unproven brand and usually I end up regretting it, so for me personally I wouldn't gamble on a chinese bike. They may be great as I hear the evs coming out China are as good as teslas. I personally wouldn't know. For my money, if I was going to get a budget bike, I would go with used low mileage Jap bike, honda suzuke or a kawi. I grew up on atvs and dirt bikes and them Japs make a fuckin great reliable product that delivers. Also a huge dealer net work, good resale value, easy to find a mechanic who can work on it.

I would gamble on a royal enfield as I have heard good things about them and they are a budget friendly do it all bike. Great if you will be taking it on rough old roads or dirt trails.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3003490]Even Murdoch's Wall Street Journal had to admit Trump essentially bent over, grabbed his knees, unable to touch his calves much less his ankles, and took it up the ass without [B]KY-Jelly[/B] from Xi and All Of China:

[B]The Great Trump Tariff Rollback.
The President started a trade war with Adam Smith. He lost.[/B]

[URL]https://www.wsj.com/opinion/u-s-china-trade-deal-tariffs-donald-trump-xi-jinping-a561d16b[/URL]

You know, it might be marginally ok for him to jerk himself and everyone else off when he is buying or selling one of his failed golf resorts from or to a gaggle of drunks.

But all of this in, out, confusion, incoherence, blithering blather, feigned or genuine incompetence doesn't work when he's dealing with real world businesses, the national and global economy.[/QUOTE]Now, your dangerous Trump is dealing with djihadhists, with new air force from Qatar, when Boeing are not able. And with Syria?

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3003499]There Are Two Chinas, and America Must Understand Both.

The technological success that has captured the attention of many in the United States is one aspect of the Chinese economy. There's another, gloomy one.

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By Li Yuan.

May 13,2025.

Updated 1:16 am ET.

Two Chinas inhabit the American imagination: One is a technology and manufacturing superpower poised to lead the world. The other is an economy that's on the verge of collapse.

Each reflects a real aspect of China.

One China let's call it hopeful China is defined by companies like the A. I. Start-up DeepSeek, the electric vehicle giant BYD and the tech powerhouse Huawei. All are innovation leaders.

Jensen Huang, the chief executive of the Silicon Valley chip giant Nvidia, said China was "not behind" the United States in artificial intelligence development. Quite a few pundits have declared that China would dominate the 21st century.

The other China gloomy China tells a different story: sluggish consumer spending, rising unemployment, a chronic housing crisis and a business community bracing for the impact of the trade war.

President Trump, as he tries to negotiate a resolution of a trade war, must reckon with both versions of America's arch geopolitical rival.

The stakes have never been higher to understand China. It's not enough to fear its successes, or take solace in its economic hardships. To know America's biggest rival requires seeing how the two Chinas are able to coexist.

"Americans have too many imagined notions about China," said Dong Jielin, a former Silicon Valley executive who recently moved back to San Francisco after spending 14 years in China teaching and researching the country's science and technology policies. "Some of them hope to solve American problems using Chinese methods, but that clearly won't work. They don't realize that China's solutions come with a lot of pain. ".

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The vehicle assembly lines of Geely Automobile's Zeekr Factory in Ningbo, China. Credit. Qilai Shen for The New York Times.

Just like the United States, China is a giant country full of disparities: coastal vs. Inland, north vs. South, urban vs. Rural, rich vs. Poor, state-owned vs. Private sector, Gen X vs. Gen Z. The ruling Communist Party itself is full of contradictions. It avows socialism, but recoils from giving its citizens a strong social safety net.

Chinese people, too, grapple with these contradictions.

Despite the trade war, the Chinese tech entrepreneurs and investors I talked to over the past few weeks were more upbeat than any time in the past three years. Their hope started with DeepSeek's breakthrough in January. Two venture capitalists told me that they planned to come out of a period of hibernation they started after Beijing's crackdown on the tech sector in 2021. Both said they were looking to invest in Chinese A. I. Applications and robotics.

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But they are much less optimistic about the economy the gloomy China.

The 10 executives, investors and economists I interviewed said they believed that China's advances in tech would not be enough to pull the country out of its economic slump. Advanced manufacturing makes up about only 6 percent of China's output, much smaller than real estate, which contributes about 17 percent of gross domestic product even after a sharp slowdown.

When I asked them whether China could beat the United States in the trade war, nobody said yes. But they all agreed that China's pain threshold was much higher.

It's not hard to understand the anxiety felt by Americans frustrated with their country's struggles to build and manufacture. China has constructed more high-speed rail lines than the rest of the world, deployed more industrial robots per 10,000 manufacturing workers than any country except South Korea and Singapore and now leads globally in electric vehicles, solar panels, drones and several other advanced industries.

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Solar panels in Ningbo, China. Credit. Gilles Sabri for The New York Times.

Many of China's most successful companies have gained resilience from the economic downturn and are better prepared for the bad days ahead. "They've been DOGE-ing for a long time," said Eric Wong, the founder of the New York hedge fund Stillpoint who visits China every quarter, referring to the Trump administration's cost-cutting effort known as the Department of Government Efficiency. "By comparison, the USA Has been living in excess for a long time. ".

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But as we marvel at China's so-called miracles, it is necessary to ask: At what cost? Not just financial, but human.

China's top-down innovation model, heavily reliant on government subsidies and investment, has proved to be both inefficient and wasteful. Much like the overbuilding in the real estate sector that triggered a crisis and erased much of Chinese household wealth, excessive industrial capacity has deepened imbalances in the economy and raised questions about the model's sustainability, particularly if broader conditions worsen.

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The electric vehicle industry shows the force of the two Chinas. In 2018, the country had nearly 500 E. V. Makers. By 2024, about 70 remained. Among the casualties was Singulato Motors, a start-up that raised $2. 3 billion from investors, including local governments in three provinces. Over eight years, the company failed to deliver a single car and filed for bankruptcy in 2023.

The Chinese government tolerates wasteful investment in its chosen initiatives, helping fuel overcapacity. But it is reluctant to make the kind of substantial investments in rural pensions and health insurance that would help lift consumption.

"Technological innovation alone cannot resolve China's structural economic imbalances or cyclical deflationary pressures," Robin Xing, the chief China economist at Morgan Stanley, said in a research note. "In fact," he wrote, "recent advances in technology may reinforce policymakers' confidence in the current path, increasing the risk of resource and capital misallocation. ".

The Chinese leadership's obsession with technological self-reliance and industrial capacity is not helping its biggest challenges: unemployment, weak consumption and a reliance on exports, not to mention the housing crisis.

Officially, China's urban unemployment rate stands at 5 percent, excluding jobless migrant workers. Youth unemployment is 17 percent. The real numbers are believed to be much higher. This summer alone, China's colleges will graduate more than 12 million new job seekers.

Mr. Trump was not wrong in saying factories are closing and people are losing their jobs in China.

In 2020 Li Keqiang, then the premier, said the foreign trade sector, directly or indirectly, accounted for the employment of 180 million Chinese. "A downturn in foreign trade will almost certainly hit the job market hard," he said at the onset of the pandemic. Tariffs could be much more devastating.

Beijing is playing down the effect of the trade war, but as negotiators held talks last weekend with their USA Counterparts, its impact was obvious. In April, Chinese factories experienced the sharpest monthly slowdown in more than a year while shipments to the United States plunged 21 percent from a year earlier.

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All of the economic fallout will be shouldered by people like a man I spoke to, with the surname Chen, a former university librarian in a megacity in southern China. He asked that I not use his full name and where he lived to shield his identity from the authorities.

Mr. Chen lives in the gloomy China. He stopped taking the vaunted high-speed trains because they cost five times as much as a bus. Flying is often cheaper, too.

He lost his job last year because the university, one of the top ones in the country, was facing a budget shortfall. Many state-run institutions have had to let people go because many local governments, even in the wealthiest cities, are deeply in debt.

Because he's in his late 30's, Mr. Chen is considered too old for most jobs. He and his wife had given up on buying a home. Now with the trade war, he expects that the economy will weaken further and that his job prospects will be dimmer.

"I've become even more cautious with spending," he said. "I weigh every penny. ".

GOD (AKA Donald J Trump) is FUCKING GREAT.[/QUOTE]The China I am referring to is the one on which numbskull Trump imposed a 145% Tariff on everything along with grandly warning the Whole Wide World that any retribution or retaliation would be met with WORSE and HIGHER Trump Tariffs.

Followed by the Whole Wide World watching that China's retribution and retaliation right back onto America with even WORSE Tariffs.

Followed by the Whole Wide World watching Trump buckling, caving, grabbing his knees and taking it up the ass without [B]KY-Jelly[/B] directly from Xi and THAT China until now he will only add a 10-30% Numbskull Trump Tariiff Additional Tax on the American Consumer onto everything they want and need to buy from China.

And this is after Xi and THAT China kicked Trump's ass up into his empty skull the first time around when Trump's failed Tariffs and Trade War with China resulted in THAT China getting damn near everything they wanted in exchange for giving virtually NOTHING to America while Trump plunged the USA Manufacturing and Agriculture sectors into a Recession so deep he had to issue emergency welfare checks just to keep them afloat.

Oh and all while American farmers lost global customers to THAT China, never to return to American farmers again.

That is the China I and the rest of the Whole Wide World have been watching ream Trump's by now raw and bleeding ass since at least 2017.

Sort out whichever one you want it to be in order to sleep better at night in the new Woke Pope's old neighborhood you live in.

I've said from the start that I am a beginner rider looking for the best starter bike for the money.

Google is weird here (Thailand). Six dealerships have is listed they sell [B]CFMoto[/B]. None of them did. So, after learning I not going to actually buy the moto of my choice I have come back to: [B]Royal Enfield[/B] - [U]Guerrilla 450[/U].

But it was hard for me to make a final decision. So I am also going to get a sport bike for the track and either a tourer or a scrambler and set them up with luggage for my long trips. I have zero interest in going off road here in Thailand (at least until I take my off-road riding course).

[U]How does this relate to politics?[/U]

I find it interesting that the China Man is in the Dis-United States of America but is not here in Thailand. At least you can get good bourbon here. Individuals in the Dis-United States of America think they are the center of the world. They have the biggest market but there is an entire world out there. Everyday they are busting their asses to build lives like the once citizens of the Dis-United States of America take for granted. The underdog is counting on not being paid attention to until they start kicking ass and taking names. I read where someone says industries decline is part of the economic cycle. [B]Maybe it is time that the Dis-United States of America recognizes it is on the decline[/B]. The Republican Morons are the cause. Time to either do something about it or goes softly in to the night.

Until [B]Harley-Davidson[/B] designs and builds a reliable motorcycle for a beginner under 10 K USD, I will not be representing the Dis-United States of America nor voting for their products.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3003569]Followed by the Whole Wide World watching that China's retribution and retaliation right back onto America with even WORSE Tariffs.

Followed by the Whole Wide World watching Trump buckling, caving, grabbing his knees and taking it up the ass without [B]KY-Jelly[/B] directly from Xi and THAT China until now he will only add a 10-30% Numbskull Trump Tariiff Additional Tax on the American Consumer onto everything they want and need to buy from China.

And this is after Xi and THAT China kicked Trump's ass up into his empty skull the first time around when Trump's failed Tariffs and Trade War with China resulted in THAT China getting damn near everything they wanted in exchange for giving virtually NOTHING to America while Trump plunged the USA Manufacturing and Agriculture sectors into a Recession so deep he had to issue emergency welfare checks just to keep them afloat.[/QUOTE]Yes, thanks for repeating the article bought and paid for by China in the WSJ.

One country engaged in a massive stimulus when the tariff fight was announced and it was not the USA.

One country tried to hide its negotiations and it was not the USA.

One nation continued with mild inflation despite the naysayers saying surely there would be inflation from tariffs. Last CPI was 0. 2% and with an annual rate of 2. 4% just where the Fed says it wants the inflation rate.

One country has seen its stock market rise after the tariff fight began, and it is not China.

We tax China's goods at 30% and they tax ours at 10% and that according to the WSJ is a win for China. How much did China pay these mo fos?

To quote the WSJ, many of these bad Chinese practices have become worse under President Xi Jinping's strong-arm economic management. One tragedy of Mr. Trump's shoot-America-in-the-foot-first approach is that he's hurt his chances of rallying a united front of countries against Beijing's mercantilism. Where do these assholes come up with this stuff? The last I checked none of this was off the table.

By targeting allies with tariffs, Mr. Trump has eroded trust in America's economic and political reliability. Oh brother, you mean the "allies" who tax the shit out of our exports to them?

Beijing now also has the benefit of concrete experience to reassure the Communist Party that Washington would struggle to impose economic sanctions in a crisis such as a Chinese blockade or invasion of Taiwan. WTF is the WSJ talking about? If China invades Taiwan, it is Trump's fault? LOL.

Yep, Covid was Trump's not China's fault too. You cannot make this shit up.

But so far there's scant sign of the substantial trade deals that Mr. Trump promises. Yeah, six weeks in, there has been nothing accomplished? In comparison to whom? Biden? The Dems? Who saw record trade deficits and said they are fine?

But a 10% across-the-board tariff is still four times the average USA Tariff rate before Mr. Trump took office. And China has gone from 0% to 30%. That is what you call losing?

And what you and the lame brains from the WSJ do not get is that on packages less than $800, there are no tarfifs. As reported by the Fed, a 60% tariff rate adds at worst 2% to the CPI number.

Meanwhile, you Democratic douches are exposed as the frauds you are. You want to keep getting as many $ as possible or your hookers. You want rich Americans to pay more in taxes and you want China to pay nothing. You fools have no idea what it takes to balance a budget.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3003316]WOW!...you must REALLY be, in some kind of excruciating PAIN?

What I mean is, after finding out, one of YOUR BIGGEST financial investor heroes, is in prefect alignment with what I'm saying, w/r to the billionaires and corporations paying their fair of taxes, for the social good and benefit of a well functioning society[/QUOTE]Ah yes, taxes are the price we pay for a well functioning society. Yes, how on earth did Americans get by prior to 1913 and the income tax? Why, they must have been uncivilized. Thank God we had the TSA bringing civility to air travel. How did we ever get by before then? I love how taxpayers paying for your hookers makes us civil.

And now Canadians want to pay more in taxes and you believe them? Just like Buffett? Actually, if you recall, Spidy, I said I would pay more taxes too as long as parasites like you are willing to take less too. You must have missed that part.

[QUOTE]Meanwhile, you [b]Democratic douches[/b] are exposed as the frauds you are. You want to keep getting as many $ as possible or your hookers. You want rich Americans to pay more in taxes and you want China to pay nothing. You fools have no idea what it takes to balance a budget.[/QUOTE]How are you paying your hookers?

Name the last president to balance the budget!

You cannot. Because if you look at how budget deficits work it is really the entire process handled by both the Article 1 and Article 2 branches that make it happen. It does not happen in one year or one term.

They do that to obscure the facts and history.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3003771]Yes, thanks for repeating the article bought and paid for by China in the WSJ.

One country engaged in a massive stimulus when the tariff fight was announced and it was not the USA.

One country tried to hide its negotiations and it was not the USA.

One nation continued with mild inflation despite the naysayers saying surely there would be inflation from tariffs. Last CPI was 0. 2% and with an annual rate of 2. 4% just where the Fed says it wants the inflation rate.

One country has seen its stock market rise after the tariff fight began, and it is not China.

We tax China's goods at 30% and they tax ours at 10% and that according to the WSJ is a win for China. How much did China pay these mo fos?

To quote the WSJ, many of these bad Chinese practices have become worse under President Xi Jinping's strong-arm economic management. One tragedy of Mr. Trump's shoot-America-in-the-foot-first approach is that he's hurt his chances of rallying a united front of countries against Beijing's mercantilism. Where do these assholes come up with this stuff? The last I checked none of this was off the table.

By targeting allies with tariffs, Mr. Trump has eroded trust in America's economic and political reliability. Oh brother, you mean the "allies" who tax the shit out of our exports to them?

Beijing now also has the benefit of concrete experience to reassure the Communist Party that Washington would struggle to impose economic sanctions in a crisis such as a Chinese blockade or invasion of Taiwan. WTF is the WSJ talking about? If China invades Taiwan, it is Trump's fault? LOL.

Yep, Covid was Trump's not China's fault too. You cannot make this shit up.

But so far there's scant sign of the substantial trade deals that Mr. Trump promises. Yeah, six weeks in, there has been nothing accomplished? In comparison to whom? Biden? The Dems? Who saw record trade deficits and said they are fine?

But a 10% across-the-board tariff is still four times the average USA Tariff rate before Mr. Trump took office. And China has gone from 0% to 30%. That is what you call losing?

And what you and the lame brains from the WSJ do not get is that on packages less than $800, there are no tarfifs. As reported by the Fed, a 60% tariff rate adds at worst 2% to the CPI number.

Meanwhile, you Democratic douches are exposed as the frauds you are. You want to keep getting as many $ as possible or your hookers. You want rich Americans to pay more in taxes and you want China to pay nothing. You fools have no idea what it takes to balance a budget.[/QUOTE]You make what was mostly the Biden Economy in America over the past 110 days or so sound much, much better than what was happening in China.

Well, it was good while it lasted:

[B]Under of a cloud of tariffs, Walmart is the latest retailer to announce price hikes.
May 15, 2025[/B]

[URL]https://finance.yahoo.com/news/under-cloud-tariffs-walmart-latest-161123832.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAL3MyBR_rYrzTmh_f1UGFaVRI-cExPvIvcggnY2xdATx2cGUWicgKYhtvqTCoxtjyDyFoR351PVDIFKPkI4Vy0zg1GLHAnRspSly8lYJ4h-Jt-Ur6nzWNqIMNUakkIkKwZWLdoNL7H1T5ehHalQp5Dzm6SxwMKBaEvSqCX5GQcgc[/URL]

[B]Walmart Becomes Biggest Retailer Yet to Pass Through Tariff Price Increases.
Walmart plans to raise prices this month and early this summer; other retailers likely will follow.
May 15, 2025[/B]

[URL]https://www.wsj.com/business/retail/walmart-wmt-q1-earnings-report-stock-2026-b978bcf5[/URL]

BTW, "price hikes" and "increasing the cost" of things as Trump is determined to do does not necessarily equal a "higher rate of inflation" immediately.

Remember when it was all the rage for Trump and his MAGA Cult to associate higher prices for gas with inflation and thereby blame Trump's Pandemic Inflation on Biden?

The average price of a gallon of regular gasoline in the USA is higher today than it was yesterday, higher both days than it was a week ago, higher than it was a month ago, higher than it was on Biden's last day in office, higher than it was on election day under Biden.

Yet, I keep seeing MAGA memes all over the internet telling the world how great it is that gas prices are falling under Trump and I have not heard one Mainstream Media cable or network news source set the record straight about the higher price of gas since Trump was elected and took office.

Interesting, huh?

[URL]https://gasprices.aaa.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.gasbuddy.com/charts[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3003772]Ah yes, taxes are the price we pay for a well functioning society. Yes, how on earth did Americans get by prior to 1913 and the income tax? Why, they must have been uncivilized. Thank God we had the TSA bringing civility to air travel. How did we ever get by before then? I love how taxpayers paying for your hookers makes us civil.

And now Canadians want to pay more in taxes and you believe them? Just like Buffett? Actually, if you recall, Spidy, I said I would pay more taxes too as long as parasites like you are willing to take less too. You must have missed that part.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2025/05/15/diddy-accused-of-raping-woman-who-compared-his-penis-to-a-tootsie-roll/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Spidy;3003823][i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i] Our resident ART armchair critic #1, with not much to say, other than the usual, bigotry!


[i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i] Our resident ART armchair critic #2, with EVEN LESS to say, other than the usual, bigotry!

[u]Is it ART according to MAGA?:[/u]

Here go again, with our top 2, ISG MAGA culture war neophytes, as this time, they are desperately trying to be art critics? What it been like all of 5 minutes...and you guys, back so soon, with yet another MAGA culture-war puff piece?

No doubt, a puff piece and hack job, they saw on FOXY Muse, from a washed-up has-been journalist, who would thinks today's [b][i]idea of "high art"[/i][/b] is a viral meme OR an [b][i]NFT depicting your Orange American Fuhrer next to orangutan,[/i][/b] with the caption "Who's prettier?" [i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i]

[u]Renaissance Ideals vs. Modern Representation:[/u]

But jokes aside, what you both need to know is that, Price's depiction of his beautiful "everyday Black Woman" sculpture, entitled [i]'Grounded in the Stars'[/i], is nothing new or weird, as often strange depictions of women have played out throughout history, from Michelangelo to Picasso?

Picasso's women often described as [b]"grotesque"[/b] and Michelangelo's Sistine Chapel women, such as the [i]Cumaen Sibyl[/i] or [i]Night[/i] on the Medici tombs, are notably muscular and athletic, with broad shoulders, defined abs, and powerful limbs, are often described as [b]"men with breasts[/b] (checkout: "Why Michelangelo's Women Were So Manly?" [URL]https://medium.com/counterarts/why-michelangelos-women-were-so-manly-e65cc309c8b1[/url] )

BTW, Michelangelo's Sistine Chapel women, sounds wonderfully perfect for you MAGA INCEL, He Man Women Haters and armchair ART critics! But remember those, fat, nude, grotesque, and "men with breast", that have adorned the Sistine Chapel and other places, have weathered the controversy for decades, despite it's bigoted and narrow-minded critics.

[i]"And controversy he got, despite a subtle degree of aggrandizement; Prices figure stands in a pose that nods to Michelangelo's David"[/i] [URL]https://news.artnet.com/art-world/thomas-j-price-viral-sculpture-times-square-debate-2642837[/URL] Fair or unfair critique of Prices [i]'Grounded in the Stars',[/i] is IMHO, the great controversy, that he intentionally challenges classical ideals by celebrating unapologetic, the contemporary body diversity, that so many famous artists before him have done.

So while other typical controversial statues like Robert E. Lee, Christopher Columbus or Theodore Roosevelt, have had their day in the sun and are now taken down, melted or stuffed in a museum somewhere, it can be also said, that controversial, [i]"everyday Black Woman" sculpture 'Grounded in the Stars'[/i], its day will come, when it too, will have it's sunset moment. Till then, keep an open mind!

Just remember: [LIST][i][b]"FREE YOUR MIND[/b]
And the rest will follow
Be colour-blind
Don't be so shallow
[b]FREE YOUR MIND"[/b][/i][/LIST]Oh, BTW...it isn't as if, you narrow minded, MAGA neophyte bigoted armchair critics wouldn't have equally complained about a statue/sculpture of Maya Angelou or Harriet Tubman, standing in Times Square. Bet you're asses, you'd all be applying some bigoted twist. It's [i][b]"your nature",[/b][/i] said the proverbial frog to the scorpion!

PS: Don't QUIT your day jobs! [i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i][/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6MJkSRYc-4[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3003772]Ah yes, taxes are the price we pay for a well functioning society. Yes, how on earth did Americans get by prior to 1913 and the income tax? Why, they must have been uncivilized. Thank God we had the TSA bringing civility to air travel. How did we ever get by before then? I love how taxpayers paying for your hookers makes us civil.

And now Canadians want to pay more in taxes and you believe them? Just like Buffett? Actually, if you recall, Spidy, I said I would pay more taxes too as long as parasites like you are willing to take less too. You must have missed that part.[/QUOTE]Thank God we had the TSA bringing civility to air travel. How did we ever get by before then?

Not too well.

Do you remember 9/11? Do you remember what airport security was like pre 9/11, they were a joke that's why OBL was able to pull off 9/11.

I doubt there is a politician in DC wants to be the one to kill the TSA, not even turds like Thomas Massie or Rand Paul.

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;3002570][URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/statues-random-fat-black-women-popping-worldwide[/URL]

While it is not allowed to have statues of Thomas Jefferson or Teddy Roosevelt, among others, in New York City, a 12 ft bronze statue of a random fat black woman just standing there is certainly permitted. The Roosevelt and Jefferson statues were removed last year. After all, what did they ever do in contrast with this overweight fictional woman whose nipples are showing through her baggy t-shirt?

This is a fictional black woman. A fat, sloppy, slouchily dressed, black woman. Couldn't even find an ACTUAL black woman to represent.

No Harriet Tubman.

No Daisy Bates.

No Maya Angelou.

Just a fat fucking black woman.

And it gets worse: Similar statues installed recently in Florence, San Francisco, Rotterdam, & New York. All by the same (grifter-artist, "Thomas J Price," all with high levels of federal, municipal, private funding.

My favorite comment was: How about something that looks less like someone complaining their "order wasn't right"?

And then there is this bullshit: "In a culture that increasingly encourages a faster pace, Grounded in the Stars is an introspective meditation on humanity," the artist's website states, claiming the statue should "instigate meaningful connections and bind into an emotional state that allow for deeper reflection around the Human condition and greater cultural diversity. ".

Can you believe this crap? Obviously, the goal is if anyone criticizes the statue, you can call the person sexist and racist. ... [/QUOTE]
[i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i] Our resident ART armchair critic #1, with not much to say, other than the usual, bigotry!

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3002636][b] Yes I saw IT I tried to post it, I don't see my post [/b]

You mention that fat pig on food stamps.
...

100 billion a year on parasites getting fat on Cheetos and Pepsi. [/QUOTE]
[i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i] Our resident ART armchair critic #2, with EVEN LESS to say, than the first armchair chair MAGA critic, other than of course, the usual bigotry!

[u]Is it ART according to MAGA?:[/u]

Here go again, with our top 2, ISG MAGA culture war neophytes, as this time, they are desperately trying to be art critics? What it been like all of 5 minutes...and you guys, back so soon, with yet another MAGA culture-war puff piece?

No doubt, a puff piece and hack job, they saw on FOXY Muse, from some washed-up has-been journalist/MAGA pundit, who would thinks today's [b][i]idea of "high art"[/i][/b] is a viral meme OR an NFT, depicting your Orange American Fuhrer next to Orangutan, with the caption [i]"Who's prettier?" [b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i]

[u]Renaissance Ideals vs. Modern Representation:[/u]

But jokes aside, what you both need to know is that, Price's depiction of his beautiful "everyday Black Woman" sculpture, entitled [i]'Grounded in the Stars'[/i], is nothing new or weird, as artists have often had strange depictions of women, that have played out throughout history, from Michelangelo to Picasso?

Picasso's women often described as [b]"grotesque"[/b] and Michelangelo's Sistine Chapel women, such as the [i]Cumaen Sibyl[/i] or [i]Night[/i] on the Medici tombs, are notably muscular and athletic, with broad shoulders, defined abs, and powerful limbs, are often described as [b]"men with breasts[/b] (checkout: "Why Michelangelo's Women Were So Manly?" [URL]https://medium.com/counterarts/why-michelangelos-women-were-so-manly-e65cc309c8b1[/url] )

BTW, Michelangelo's Sistine Chapel women, sounds wonderfully perfect for you MAGA INCEL, He Man Women Haters and armchair ART critics!

But remember those, fat, nude, grotesque, and "men with breast", that have adorned the Sistine Chapel and other places, have weathered their fair share of controversy for decades, despite their bigoted and narrow-minded critics.
[list][i]"And controversy he got, despite a subtle degree of aggrandizement; Price's figure stands in a pose that nods to Michelangelo's David"[/i] [URL]https://news.artnet.com/art-world/thomas-j-price-viral-sculpture-times-square-debate-2642837[/URL][/list]Fair or unfair critique of Price's [i]'Grounded in the Stars',[/i] is IMHO, the great controversy, that he intentionally challenges classical ideals, by celebrating unapologetic, the contemporary body diversity, that so many famous artists before him have done.

So while other typical controversial statues like Robert E. Lee, Christopher Columbus or Theodore Roosevelt, have had their day in the sun and are now taken down, melted or stuffed in a museum somewhere, it can be also said, that the controversial, [i]"everyday Black Woman"[/i] sculpture, entitled [i]'Grounded in the Stars'[/i], its day will come, when it too, will have its sunset moment. Till then, keep an open mind!

Just remember: [LIST][i][b]"FREE YOUR MIND[/b]
And the rest will follow
Be colour-blind
Don't be so shallow
[b]FREE YOUR MIND"[/b][/i][/LIST]Oh, BTW...it isn't as if, you narrow minded, MAGA neophyte bigoted armchair critics wouldn't have equally complained about a statue/sculpture of Maya Angelou or Harriet Tubman, standing in Times Square. Bet you're asses, you'd all be applying some bigoted twist.

"It's [i][b]'your nature',[/b][/i] said the proverbial frog to the scorpion!

PS: Don't QUIT your day jobs! [i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i]

[QUOTE=Spidy;3003829][i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i] Our resident ART armchair critic #1, with not much to say, other than the usual, bigotry!


[i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i] Our resident ART armchair critic #2, with EVEN LESS to say, than the first armchair chair MAGA critic, other than of course, the usual bigotry!

[u]Is it ART according to MAGA?:[/u]

Here go again, with our top 2, ISG MAGA culture war neophytes, as this time, they are desperately trying to be art critics? What it been like all of 5 minutes...and you guys, back so soon, with yet another MAGA culture-war puff piece?

No doubt, a puff piece and hack job, they saw on FOXY Muse, from some washed-up has-been journalist/MAGA pundit, who would thinks today's [b][i]idea of "high art"[/i][/b] is a viral meme OR an NFT, depicting your Orange American Fuhrer next to Orangutan, with the caption [i]"Who's prettier?" [b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i]

[u]Renaissance Ideals vs. Modern Representation:[/u]

But jokes aside, what you both need to know is that, Price's depiction of his beautiful "everyday Black Woman" sculpture, entitled [i]'Grounded in the Stars'[/i], is nothing new or weird, as artists have often had strange depictions of women, that have played out throughout history, from Michelangelo to Picasso?

Picasso's women often described as [b]"grotesque"[/b] and Michelangelo's Sistine Chapel women, such as the [i]Cumaen Sibyl[/i] or [i]Night[/i] on the Medici tombs, are notably muscular and athletic, with broad shoulders, defined abs, and powerful limbs, are often described as [b]"men with breasts[/b] (checkout: "Why Michelangelo's Women Were So Manly?" [URL]https://medium.com/counterarts/why-michelangelos-women-were-so-manly-e65cc309c8b1[/url] )

BTW, Michelangelo's Sistine Chapel women, sounds wonderfully perfect for you MAGA INCEL, He Man Women Haters and armchair ART critics!

But remember those, fat, nude, grotesque, and "men with breast", that have adorned the Sistine Chapel and other places, have weathered their fair share of controversy for decades, despite their bigoted and narrow-minded critics.
[list][i]"And controversy he got, despite a subtle degree of aggrandizement; Price's figure stands in a pose that nods to Michelangelo's David"[/i] [URL]https://news.artnet.com/art-world/thomas-j-price-viral-sculpture-times-square-debate-2642837[/URL][/list]Fair or unfair critique of Price's [i]'Grounded in the Stars',[/i] is IMHO, the great controversy, that he intentionally challenges classical ideals, by celebrating unapologetic, the contemporary body diversity, that so many famous artists before him have done.

So while other typical controversial statues like Robert E. Lee, Christopher Columbus or Theodore Roosevelt, have had their day in the sun and are now taken down, melted or stuffed in a museum somewhere, it can be also said, that the controversial, [i]"everyday Black Woman"[/i] sculpture, entitled [i]'Grounded in the Stars'[/i], its day will come, when it too, will have its sunset moment. Till then, keep an open mind!

Just remember: [LIST][i][b]"FREE YOUR MIND[/b]
And the rest will follow
Be colour-blind
Don't be so shallow
[b]FREE YOUR MIND"[/b][/i][/LIST]Oh, BTW...it isn't as if, you narrow minded, MAGA neophyte bigoted armchair critics wouldn't have equally complained about a statue/sculpture of Maya Angelou or Harriet Tubman, standing in Times Square. Bet you're asses, you'd all be applying some bigoted twist.

"It's [i][b]'your nature',[/b][/i] said the proverbial frog to the scorpion!

PS: Don't QUIT your day jobs! [i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i][/QUOTE]Very well stated! Good art creates cognitive tension. And challenges the viewers values not just their aesthetic sense.

Meanwhile the United States is becoming North Korea.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3003772]Ah yes, taxes are the price we pay for a well functioning society. Yes, how on earth did Americans get by prior to 1913 and the income tax? Why, they must have been uncivilized. Thank God we had the TSA bringing civility to air travel. How did we ever get by before then? I love how taxpayers paying for your hookers makes us civil.

And now Canadians want to pay more in taxes and you believe them? Just like Buffett? Actually, if you recall, Spidy, I said I would pay more taxes too as long as parasites like you are willing to take less too. You must have missed that part.[/QUOTE]How did the US function? Well it was a paradise for the wealthy, and hell on Earth for the poor. There was virtually no middle class. Cities were successful in working conditions were horrific. We need to expand the public sector, not contracted. The United States cannot consider itself a truly developed country without universal health care, paid education including University and tech school, excellent pensions at a reasonable age, four weeks paid vacation, and viable public transportation that makes owning a car optional. I don't know how anyone can spend significant time overseas and still think America is the greatest.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;3003857]How did the US function? Well it was a paradise for the wealthy, and hell on Earth for the poor. There was virtually no middle class. Cities were successful in working conditions were horrific. We need to expand the public sector, not contracted. The United States cannot consider itself a truly developed country without universal health care, paid education including University and tech school, excellent pensions at a reasonable age, four weeks paid vacation, and viable public transportation that makes owning a car optional. I don't know how anyone can spend significant time overseas and still think America is the greatest.[/QUOTE]The obvious problem is America is full of a bunch of assholes, like me, who would abuse that system and milk it dry until it would become unsustainable. Other countries that try that shit have GDPs which are half of the USA and they also don't have all the assholes living there like we do. Look at France, Spain, UK, Canada. Its not a paradise like it seems. The exceptions like Norway work because they have a population which is 1/30 of the USA and its much easier to stop corruption and keep the assholes in line. It just wouldn't work on a scale as big as the USA nor do most Americans want to pay those high taxes for those benefits. Many Americans are greedy self centered jerk offs and they don't want those policies. They would rather have higher pay with lower taxes and less benefits for the lower classes. I understand why the jerk offs are greedy too, so many jobs in the USA pay well, but the stress and toxic environment for many of those jobs is so high, the only way you can justify doing it is the high pay. Cops, Teachers, Nurses, City workers, construction, politicians, lawyers, people don't work those high stress jobs to make a difference anymore- they work that shit for the money and that high stress makes them greedy. It is what it is my guy.

All those things you list sure would be nice though, too bad we have a national debt of 30 trillion and can't even fund our current social security system.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;3003857]How did the US function? Well it was a paradise for the wealthy, and hell on Earth for the poor. There was virtually no middle class. Cities were successful in working conditions were horrific. We need to expand the public sector, not contracted. The United States cannot consider itself a truly developed country without universal health care, paid education including University and tech school, excellent pensions at a reasonable age, four weeks paid vacation, and viable public transportation that makes owning a car optional. I don't know how anyone can spend significant time overseas and still think America is the greatest.[/QUOTE]But not so much here, firstly socialized medicine is a horrible concept in theory and in practice, just ask anyone that has health problems in a country with it, like ie, Canada the UK or Germany.

"I don't know how anyone can spend significant time overseas and still think America is the greatest".

This line is really really fucking laughable, I didn't know if the USA was the best country or not until I traveled all over the world, but now, I absolutely know it is.

There isn't a country that can even come close to competing with the USA in quality of life.

Not in Asia, not in Europe, not in Latin America.

They all completely suck, some more so than others, some are ok to visit.

But as far as living there versus the USA, you need your fucking head examined!!

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;3003857]How did the US function? Well it was a paradise for the wealthy, and hell on Earth for the poor. There was virtually no middle class. Cities were successful in working conditions were horrific. We need to expand the public sector, not contracted. The United States cannot consider itself a truly developed country without universal health care, paid education including University and tech school, excellent pensions at a reasonable age, four weeks paid vacation, and viable public transportation that makes owning a car optional. I don't know how anyone can spend significant time overseas and still think America is the greatest.[/QUOTE]
Agreed!

And just as equally, well stated and succinct, but perfectly articulated. Tis, definitely refreshing, to see when others, understand and acknowledge, what a just, fair and equitably ran society, looks like.
[LIST][i][b]"Id rather be called a socialist than watch this country turn into an oligarchy where the rich live off the work of everyone else."[/b][/i] --Warren Buffett, 2015, Charlie Rose interview[/LIST]

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;3003772]Ah yes, taxes are the price we pay for a well functioning society. Yes, how on earth did Americans get by prior to 1913 and the income tax?[/QUOTE]
Hmmmm....would that be the affluent society of the day, prior to 1913 and income tax, paid for with the broken backs of the Black slave labor, the Native Indigenous enslavement camps, the Chinese indentured/railroad slave labor or the migrant/immigrant low-wage slave-like exploitation?

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;3003772]Why, they must have been uncivilized. [/QUOTE] You nailed it!

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;3003772]Thank God we had the TSA bringing civility to air travel. How did we ever get by before then? I love how taxpayers paying for your hookers makes us civil.

And now Canadians want to pay more in taxes and you believe them? Just like Buffett? Actually, if you recall, Spidy, [b]I said I would pay more taxes too as long as parasites like you are willing to take less too. You must have missed that part.[/b][/QUOTE]

Perhaps you've missed it, since I've just already finish explaining [b][i]"...who the real parasites are...", [/b][/i] to the other MAGA neophyte, who perhaps now gets it, [i]([b]hint:[/b] it's the billionaires and robber baron class).[/i]

But just in case, Elvis 2008, you can't take a hint, on who the REAL parasites are, I'll let one of YOUR GREATEST HEROES (America's and mine), explain it to you once AGAIN, in his own words:
[LIST][I][B]"The poor aren't the takers...the rich who exploit loopholes are. And I'm one of them!"[/B] --Warren Buffett[/I][/LIST]

[QUOTE=Spidy;3003866]Agreed!

And just as equally, well stated and succinct, but perfectly articulated. Tis, definitely refreshing, to see when others, understand and acknowledge, what a just, fair and equitably ran society, looks like.
[LIST][i][b]"Id rather be called a socialist than watch this country turn into an oligarchy where the rich live off the work of everyone else."[/b][/i] --Warren Buffett, 2015, Charlie Rose interview[/LIST][/QUOTE]And let's not forget that we are now seeing an American Gestapo. Sorry, party who ran on defending free speech is showing exactly the opposite. America under Donald Trump is becoming East Germany. All while ignoring the biggest threat to freedom in america, Christian nationalists.

[URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/washingtondc/comments/1kmyivy/our_son_19yo_sun_landed_at_dulles_from_an/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Spidy;3003866]Agreed!

And just as equally, well stated and succinct, but perfectly articulated. Tis, definitely refreshing, to see when others, understand and acknowledge, what a just, fair and equitably ran society, looks like.
[LIST][i][b]"Id rather be called a socialist than watch this country turn into an oligarchy where the rich live off the work of everyone else."[/b][/i] --Warren Buffett, 2015, Charlie Rose interview[/LIST][/QUOTE]And here's a dude who's lived in the United States since 1980, a green card holder, who teaches at the Texas School for the blind.
These right wing militia types were always saying they wanted to stay well-armed in case the government overstepped its bounds and started really infringing on the rights of citizens, well, that's happening. Where are they? Oh, they're okay because it's only brown people that are being messed with and people who don't agree with their political slant.

[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/music/2025/may/14/lord-buffalo-drummer-us-border-control[/URL]

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;3003889]And here's a dude who's lived in the United States since 1980, a green card holder, who teaches at the Texas School for the blind.
These right wing militia types were always saying they wanted to stay well-armed in case the government overstepped its bounds and started really infringing on the rights of citizens, well, that's happening. Where are they? Oh, they're okay because it's only brown people that are being messed with and people who don't agree with their political slant.

[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/music/2025/may/14/lord-buffalo-drummer-us-border-control[/URL][/QUOTE]I thank the Gods every minute of every fucking day for Donald J Trump.

[URL]https://www.newsmax.com/us/ice-venezuela-anthony-fabian-marin-la-torre/2025/05/15/id/1211170/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=10156046834215725[/URL]

Infringing on the rights of citizens? WTF he isn't a citizen.

Where the fuck were you when the Scumbag Democrats were destroying the rights of its citizens with DEI and pouring in tens of millions of psychotic 3rd world savages to rape and murder its citizens.

And destroying free and fair elections and destroying the rule of law with 93 bogus kangaroo court felony charges, 2 fake impeachments etc etc etc.

"Vengeance is mine sayeth the lord", Donald J Trump (Our Lord and Savior) January 20,2025 aka the Savior of Western Civilization.

Or as I like to say "live by the sword die by the sword" aka paybacks are a motherfucker!

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3003808]You make what was mostly the Biden Economy in America over the past 110 days or so sound much, much better than what was happening in China.

Well, it was good while it lasted:

[B]Under of a cloud of tariffs, Walmart is the latest retailer to announce price hikes.
May 15, 2025[/B]

[URL]https://finance.yahoo.com/news/under-cloud-tariffs-walmart-latest-161123832.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAL3MyBR_rYrzTmh_f1UGFaVRI-cExPvIvcggnY2xdATx2cGUWicgKYhtvqTCoxtjyDyFoR351PVDIFKPkI4Vy0zg1GLHAnRspSly8lYJ4h-Jt-Ur6nzWNqIMNUakkIkKwZWLdoNL7H1T5ehHalQp5Dzm6SxwMKBaEvSqCX5GQcgc[/URL]

[B]Walmart Becomes Biggest Retailer Yet to Pass Through Tariff Price Increases.
Walmart plans to raise prices this month and early this summer; other retailers likely will follow.
May 15, 2025[/B]..[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/15/books/review/apple-in-china-patrick-mcgee.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3003569]The China I am referring to is the one on which numbskull Trump imposed a 145% Tariff on everything along with grandly warning the Whole Wide World that any retribution or retaliation would be met with WORSE and HIGHER Trump Tariffs.

Followed by the Whole Wide World watching that China's retribution and retaliation right back onto America with even WORSE Tariffs.

Followed by the Whole Wide World watching Trump buckling, caving, grabbing his knees and taking it up the ass without [B]KY-Jelly[/B] directly from Xi and THAT China until now he will only add a 10-30% Numbskull Trump Tariiff Additional Tax on the American Consumer onto everything they want and need to buy from China..[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/05/14/democrat-rep-ro-khanna-introduces-legislation-to-codify-trump-executive-order-reducing-drug-prices/[/URL]

Trump's Drug Price Order Strikes at the Heart of Foreign Free-Riding.

For decades, American consumers have been paying the world's highest drug prices—not because we use more medicine, or demand higher quality, but because our government chose not to negotiate.

May 14, 2025.

Trump's MFN Drug Price Plan and the Trade War in Pharma Lab Coats.

For decades, American consumers have been paying the world's highest drug prices—not because we use more medicine, or demand higher quality, but because our government chose not to negotiate. While other nations imposed hard price caps or demanded steep discounts from pharmaceutical companies, the United States allowed drugmakers to charge whatever the market would bear.

Or so we were told.

In reality, there is no true "free market" in pharmaceuticals. What we call a market-based system is in fact a heavily regulated, government-protected pricing regime built atop patents, FDA exclusivity, and mandatory insurance coverage. It is a system in which competition is deliberately suppressed—first by intellectual property law, then by regulatory lock-in, and finally by federal restrictions that prohibit the country's largest buyer, Medicare, from bargaining directly. This is not free enterprise. This is cartelized pricing with government enforcement.

The Forgotten Tariff: Prescription Drugs.

This divergence took shape in the second half of the 20th century. As Europe and Canada built government-run or heavily regulated health systems, they created agencies to demand steep discounts or block new drugs unless prices aligned with cost-effectiveness thresholds. Meanwhile, the USA Took a more fragmented, so-called market-driven path.

But how market-driven can a system be when the federal government—through Medicare, Medicaid, and the Veterans Affairs Department—is the largest purchaser of prescription drugs? Medicare, the nation's largest health insurer, was legally barred from negotiating prices when the Part the benefit was created in 2003. It accounts for around 30 percent of all drug purchases in the USA Medicaid's "best price" rule discouraged deeper private market discounts. And while the USA Fostered a robust generics industry, brand-name drugs—especially new, high-cost therapies—remained exempt from pricing discipline.

The consequences are staggering. Americans routinely pay two to four times more for the same brand-name drug than patients in Germany, Canada, or Australia. In many cases, the exact same pill made in the same factory costs a fraction abroad of what it does at the USA Pharmacy counter. These are not generics. These are identical products, sold cheaper everywhere else.

Why? Because every other developed country uses some form of centralized price negotiation or regulation. The USA Stands virtually alone in letting manufacturers name their price—then requires insurance plans, public and private alike, to cover those products. That is not a market. That is a racket.

Meanwhile, American businesses have shouldered the cost. Rising prescription drug prices inflate the price of employer-sponsored health insurance, raising the cost of labor in the USA Relative to competitors abroad. Health coverage here is not a government service but an employer obligation. That means every artificially high drug price gets baked into the cost of American labor—and with it, the cost of American goods and services.

By contrast, foreign firms benefit from single-payer systems that negotiate aggressively. Their workers are covered by national health plans; their products aren't priced with an implicit healthcare surcharge. The result is a quiet but powerful tilt in global competitiveness: a de facto tax on USA Employment and production.

Global Imbalance by Design.

For years, pharmaceutical executives and their lobbyists defended this imbalance by claiming that high USA Prices were necessary to fund innovation. Foreign governments, they argued, were "free-riding" on American investment. That's not wrong, but the conclusion is backwards.

If other countries are underpaying, then the solution is not to maintain our overpayment. It is to stop enabling the free ride.

This is not just a healthcare issue—it's the pharmaceutical equivalent of NATO burden-sharing. For decades, the USA Has shouldered the cost of defending Europe while European nations underfunded their own militaries. Now, in medicine as in defense, America is demanding that wealthy allies pay their fair share.

President Trump's Most-Favored-Nation (MFN) Executive Order, signed earlier this month, flips the system. It pegs the prices paid by Medicare and Medicaid to the lowest amount paid by comparable foreign countries. In effect, America will no longer subsidize the rest of the world's medicine cabinets. If a German patient gets a drug for $300, the American taxpayer will not pay $1,200.

President Donald Trump signs an executive order on Delivering Most-Favored-Nation Prescription Drug Pricing to American Patient at a press conference with Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. , on May 12,2025, in the White House. (Official White House Photo by Joyce and. Boghosian via Flickr).

This is not just about domestic affordability. It's about global competition. For decades, American businesses have shouldered the cost of overpriced prescription drugs through rising insurance premiums and benefit costs. Lowering drug prices isn't just a healthcare issue—it's industrial policy.

This policy is also consistent with Trump's broader trade philosophy. Just as tariffs on foreign steel aimed to correct market distortions created by foreign subsidies, MFN pricing corrects the distortion created by foreign price controls. This is not price fixing—it's reciprocal pricing. And like tariffs, it is a tool to reassert American sovereignty and strategic interest.

The Innovation Objection.

Critics warn that MFN pricing will reduce drug company revenue and thus slow innovation. It may—modestly. The Congressional Budget Office estimates a 5 to 10 percent decline in new drug development over the next two decades. That's real. But so is the $500 billion in projected savings for American patients and taxpayers.

More importantly, we should ask: What kind of innovation are we funding with those inflated prices? A growing share of pharmaceutical R&D goes toward "me-too" drugs, patent extensions, and market-protection strategies. The idea that every dollar taken from drugmakers is a dollar lost to scientific progress is not just inaccurate—it's propaganda.

A smarter pricing system may actually sharpen incentives by rewarding genuine breakthroughs while trimming waste. And let's not forget that public research agencies like the NIH already fund much of the foundational science behind new therapies. The private sector thrives on those publicly created discoveries.

It's Time for the Rebalancing to Begin.

In truth, the MFN order is just a starting point. Its success will depend on implementation, legal resilience, and follow-through in negotiations. But the principle it asserts is clear and long overdue: Americans should not be forced to overpay for medicine so that foreign governments can underpay.

What President Trump has done is extend the logic of America First into a new economic theater: the global drug market. For the first time in modern history, a USA President has told the pharmaceutical industry and its international customers that the days of one-way pricing are over. That is not just health reform—it is trade reform. It is industrial policy. And it is a long-overdue assertion of national interest in a sector that has for too long been shielded from scrutiny.

As the administration moves forward, industry backlash is inevitable. So are threats of reduced investment and foreign noncompliance. But as with tariffs, those are not reasons to back down. They are signs the policy is working.

In a global economy rigged by price disparities and state-protected sectors, fairness begins with leverage. The MFN rule is a tool of leverage. And for once, that leverage is being used on behalf of the American patient, worker, and employer—not against them.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3003931][URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/15/books/review/apple-in-china-patrick-mcgee.html[/URL][/QUOTE][B]Kamala Harris Would Beat Donald Trump if Election Held Again: Poll
May 15, 2025[/B]

[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/kamala-harris-beat-donald-trump-election-held-today-poll-2072730[/URL]

[QUOTE]The Strength In Numbers/Verasight poll, conducted May 1 to 6, found 47 percent of respondents who would vote in a hypothetical do-over backed Democrat Harris, compared to 42 percent for Republican Trump.

Including those who would not vote, Harris' share of the vote dropped to 40 percent against Trump's 36 percent.
..........
Since then several polls have shown that voters don't trust Trump on the economy. That includes the Strength In Numbers/Verasight poll which shows that Trump's net approval on the economy stands at -17 points, with 38 approving and 58 disapproving.

Trump fares even worse on the issue of prices and inflation, with his net approval at -32 points, with 31 percent approving and 63 percent disapproving..[/QUOTE]115 days of a "honeymoon" with this historically disastrous Trump's Pandemic Part 2 term is more than enough for the overwhelming majority of Americans to stomach.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3003868]Hmmmm....would that be the affluent society of the day, prior to 1913 and income tax, paid for with the broken backs of the Black slave labor, the Native Indigenous enslavement camps, the Chinese indentured/railroad slave labor or the migrant/immigrant low-wage slave-like exploitation?[/QUOTE]Yes, the income tax ended all that? And the Chinese workers and African blacks were better off in their native lands? LOL. The native Americans are a much more complex topic. Of course, I have no idea what they had to do with the income tax either.

And so because you take your government handouts means you are on the side of the oppressed Chinese and blacks? LOL. Oh yeah, sure you are.

Spidy, if you are so fucking opposed to billionaires, shouldn't you be a Republican? Most billionaires are or were Democrats. I grant you there were a few who jumped ship when the Democrats abandoned Democracy and followed their demented candidate with a drunk, but in 2016, I cannot recall any billionaires who supported Trump. Hell, we had Zuckerburg paying nearly a billion to rig elections.

While Trump's Titanic Sinking poll ratings have nothing to do with his chances of getting re-elected, he and President Musk will have to swing a whole new set of corrupt Repub Majority SCOTUS Justices payoffs and bribes along with a monumental rigging of the vote counting machines to "lose" millions upon millions of votes and a few critical EV votes for the Democratic challenger, that American Consumer Sentiment plunge is adding to the historic sinking and, naturally, emboldening Congressional Repub poll-followers to reject his proposals:

[B]Consumer sentiment slides to second-lowest on record.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/16/consumer-sentiment-may-inflation-expectations-tariffs.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

Little wonder, considering what retailers are telling the American Consumer will be the real result of Trump's Tariffs as opposed to the blithering blathering lies Trump has been repeating about them over the past several months:

[B]China tariff 'stacking' pushes true cost of import taxes well above 30%.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/16/china-tariff-stacking-true-cost-import-taxes-above-30percent.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

You know, it could very well be that Trump will have done so much damage to the economy, to American Consumers and to his Party that when he gets duly Impeached again by the new Democratic Party House Majority some time in early 2027, the Senate Repubs will finally do their duty to convict him and set up a nice post-Administration set of new post-administration criminal charges that even the corrupt SCOTUS MAGA Majority will find impossible to ignore.

And that will truly MAGA and illustrate to all Americans what winning really looks like.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3003960][B]Kamala Harris Would Beat Donald Trump if Election Held Again: Poll
May 15, 2025[/B]

[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/kamala-harris-beat-donald-trump-election-held-today-poll-2072730[/URL]

115 days of a "honeymoon" with this historically disastrous Trump's Pandemic Part 2 term is more than enough for the overwhelming majority of Americans to stomach.[/QUOTE]She isn't qualified to be head rat catcher in India let alone anything else, if you suggest otherwise you are completely fucking brain dead like her.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXdrlh5PV58[/URL]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3003960][B]Kamala Harris Would Beat Donald Trump if Election Held Again: Poll
May 15, 2025[/B]

[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/kamala-harris-beat-donald-trump-election-held-today-poll-2072730[/URL]

115 days of a "honeymoon" with this historically disastrous Trump's Pandemic Part 2 term is more than enough for the overwhelming majority of Americans to stomach.[/QUOTE]A house cat would beat Donald Trump at the moment.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3003928]I thank the Gods every minute of every fucking day for Donald J Trump.

[URL]https://www.newsmax.com/us/ice-venezuela-anthony-fabian-marin-la-torre/2025/05/15/id/1211170/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=10156046834215725[/URL]

Infringing on the rights of citizens? WTF he isn't a citizen.

Where the fuck were you when the Scumbag Democrats were destroying the rights of its citizens with DEI and pouring in tens of millions of psychotic 3rd world savages to rape and murder its citizens.

And destroying free and fair elections and destroying the rule of law with 93 bogus kangaroo court felony charges, 2 fake impeachments etc etc etc.

"Vengeance is mine sayeth the lord", Donald J Trump (Our Lord and Savior) January 20,2025 aka the Savior of Western Civilization.

Or as I like to say "live by the sword die by the sword" aka paybacks are a motherfucker![/QUOTE]You would have fit in incredibly well in 1930's Germany No doubt. Constitution extends the right of due process to non-citizens as well.

Amazing you swallowed the nonsense about savages coming into the United States. You do realize that without the labor of illegal aliens or their numbers the United States population will start to fall quite rapidly leaving it in the same situation as Europe in Japan.

Destroying the rule of law? That's exactly what maga is bent on doing.

It's comical you mentioned the rule of law but you think it should be used to selectively and only for certain people.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3003933][URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/05/14/democrat-rep-ro-khanna-introduces-legislation-to-codify-trump-executive-order-reducing-drug-prices/[/URL]

Trump's Drug Price Order Strikes at the Heart of Foreign Free-Riding.

For decades, American consumers have been paying the world's highest drug pricesnot because we use more medicine, or demand higher quality, but because our government chose not to negotiate.

May 14, 2025.

Trump's MFN Drug Price Plan and the Trade War in Pharma Lab Coats.

For decades, American consumers have been paying the world's highest drug pricesnot because we use more medicine, or demand higher quality, but because our government chose not to negotiate. While other nations imposed hard price caps or demanded steep discounts from pharmaceutical companies, the United States allowed drugmakers to charge whatever the market would bear.

Or so we were told.

In reality, there is no true "free market" in pharmaceuticals. What we call a market-based system is in fact a heavily regulated, government-protected pricing regime built atop patents, FDA exclusivity, and mandatory insurance coverage. It is a system in which competition is deliberately suppressedfirst by intellectual property law, then by regulatory lock-in, and finally by federal restrictions that prohibit the country's largest buyer, Medicare, from bargaining directly. This is not free enterprise. This is cartelized pricing with government enforcement.

The Forgotten Tariff: Prescription Drugs.

This divergence took shape in the second half of the 20th century. As Europe and Canada built government-run or heavily regulated health systems, they created agencies to demand steep discounts or block new drugs unless prices aligned with cost-effectiveness thresholds. Meanwhile, the USA Took a more fragmented, so-called market-driven path.

But how market-driven can a system be when the federal governmentthrough Medicare, Medicaid, and the Veterans Affairs Departmentis the largest purchaser of prescription drugs? Medicare, the nation's largest health insurer, was legally barred from negotiating prices when the Part the benefit was created in 2003. It accounts for around 30 percent of all drug purchases in the USA Medicaid's "best price" rule discouraged deeper private market discounts. And while the USA Fostered a robust generics industry, brand-name drugsespecially new, high-cost therapiesremained exempt from pricing discipline.

The consequences are staggering. Americans routinely pay two to four times more for the same brand-name drug than patients in Germany, Canada, or Australia. In many cases, the exact same pill made in the same factory costs a fraction abroad of what it does at the USA Pharmacy counter. These are not generics. These are identical products, sold cheaper everywhere else.

Why? Because every other developed country uses some form of centralized price negotiation or regulation. The USA Stands virtually alone in letting manufacturers name their pricethen requires insurance plans, public and private alike, to cover those products. That is not a market. That is a racket.

Meanwhile, American businesses have shouldered the cost. Rising prescription drug prices inflate the price of employer-sponsored health insurance, raising the cost of labor in the USA Relative to competitors abroad. Health coverage here is not a government service but an employer obligation. That means every artificially high drug price gets baked into the cost of American laborand with it, the cost of American goods and services.

By contrast, foreign firms benefit from single-payer systems that negotiate aggressively. Their workers are covered by national health plans; their products aren't priced with an implicit healthcare surcharge. The result is a quiet but powerful tilt in global competitiveness: a de facto tax on USA Employment and production.

Global Imbalance by Design.

For years, pharmaceutical executives and their lobbyists defended this imbalance by claiming that high USA Prices were necessary to fund innovation. Foreign governments, they argued, were "free-riding" on American investment. That's not wrong, but the conclusion is backwards.

If other countries are underpaying, then the solution is not to maintain our overpayment. It is to stop enabling the free ride.

This is not just a healthcare issueit's the pharmaceutical equivalent of NATO burden-sharing. For decades, the USA Has shouldered the cost of defending Europe while European nations underfunded their own militaries. Now, in medicine as in defense, America is demanding that wealthy allies pay their fair share.

President Trump's Most-Favored-Nation (MFN) Executive Order, signed earlier this month, flips the system. It pegs the prices paid by Medicare and Medicaid to the lowest amount paid by comparable foreign countries. In effect, America will no longer subsidize the rest of the world's medicine cabinets. If a German patient gets a drug for $300, the American taxpayer will not pay $1,200.

President Donald Trump signs an executive order on Delivering Most-Favored-Nation Prescription Drug Pricing to American Patient at a press conference with Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. , on May 12,2025, in the White House. (Official White House Photo by Joyce and. Boghosian via Flickr).

This is not just about domestic affordability. It's about global competition. For decades, American businesses have shouldered the cost of overpriced prescription drugs through rising insurance premiums and benefit costs. Lowering drug prices isn't just a healthcare issueit's industrial policy.

This policy is also consistent with Trump's broader trade philosophy. Just as tariffs on foreign steel aimed to correct market distortions created by foreign subsidies, MFN pricing corrects the distortion created by foreign price controls. This is not price fixingit's reciprocal pricing. And like tariffs, it is a tool to reassert American sovereignty and strategic interest.

The Innovation Objection.

Critics warn that MFN pricing will reduce drug company revenue and thus slow innovation. It maymodestly. The Congressional Budget Office estimates a 5 to 10 percent decline in new drug development over the next two decades. That's real. But so is the $500 billion in projected savings for American patients and taxpayers.

More importantly, we should ask: What kind of innovation are we funding with those inflated prices? A growing share of pharmaceutical R&D goes toward "me-too" drugs, patent extensions, and market-protection strategies. The idea that every dollar taken from drugmakers is a dollar lost to scientific progress is not just inaccurateit's propaganda.

A smarter pricing system may actually sharpen incentives by rewarding genuine breakthroughs while trimming waste. And let's not forget that public research agencies like the NIH already fund much of the foundational science behind new therapies. The private sector thrives on those publicly created discoveries.

It's Time for the Rebalancing to Begin.

In truth, the MFN order is just a starting point. Its success will depend on implementation, legal resilience, and follow-through in negotiations. But the principle it asserts is clear and long overdue: Americans should not be forced to overpay for medicine so that foreign governments can underpay.

What President Trump has done is extend the logic of America First into a new economic theater: the global drug market. For the first time in modern history, a USA President has told the pharmaceutical industry and its international customers that the days of one-way pricing are over. That is not just health reformit is trade reform. It is industrial policy. And it is a long-overdue assertion of national interest in a sector that has for too long been shielded from scrutiny.

As the administration moves forward, industry backlash is inevitable. So are threats of reduced investment and foreign noncompliance. But as with tariffs, those are not reasons to back down. They are signs the policy is working.

In a global economy rigged by price disparities and state-protected sectors, fairness begins with leverage. The MFN rule is a tool of leverage. And for once, that leverage is being used on behalf of the American patient, worker, and employernot against them.[/QUOTE]Huh? You're really buying this nonsense from Bbart? Do you know why other countries pay less for drugs? Because they don't allow big pharma and insurance companies to lobby the government in order to have a favorable climate to maximize their profits and rip off citizens. They instead have an enormous negotiating block with their systems and in many ways can dictate the prices that they will pay.

And then you have countries that say to hell with patents our citizens need this drugs and knock off the compound.

Trump's nonsense will do nothing. You're never going to play low prices for prescription drugs in the United States as long as you give pharma the upper hand. Threaten to disregard their patents and they might come in line.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3003928]I thank the Gods every minute of every fucking day for Donald J Trump.

[URL]https://www.newsmax.com/us/ice-venezuela-anthony-fabian-marin-la-torre/2025/05/15/id/1211170/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=10156046834215725[/URL]

Infringing on the rights of citizens? WTF he isn't a citizen.

Where the fuck were you when the Scumbag Democrats were destroying the rights of its citizens with DEI and pouring in tens of millions of psychotic 3rd world savages to rape and murder its citizens.

And destroying free and fair elections and destroying the rule of law with 93 bogus kangaroo court felony charges, 2 fake impeachments etc etc etc.

"Vengeance is mine sayeth the lord", Donald J Trump (Our Lord and Savior) January 20,2025 aka the Savior of Western Civilization.

Or as I like to say "live by the sword die by the sword" aka paybacks are a motherfucker![/QUOTE]As someone who lives the lifestyle discussed on this board, embracing Donald trump, project 2025, and Christian nationalists is certainly not in your best interest. A bill was just introduced to outlaw all pornography Nationwide. Christian nationalists are not your friend dude. Just waiting for the bill to make it a criminal act for Americans to engage in paid sex overseas. Look what both sides have done did the hobby in the United States. You can say what you want about gay and trans people, but they tend to be far more libertine September then work feminists or Christian Nationals. And I think the Christian nationalists have much more pull when it comes to legislation.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;3004065]As someone who lives the lifestyle discussed on this board, embracing Donald trump, project 2025, and Christian nationalists is certainly not in your best interest. A bill was just introduced to outlaw all pornography Nationwide. Christian nationalists are not your friend dude. Just waiting for the bill to make it a criminal act for Americans to engage in paid sex overseas. Look what both sides have done did the hobby in the United States. You can say what you want about gay and trans people, but they tend to be far more libertine September then work feminists or Christian Nationals. And I think the Christian nationalists have much more pull when it comes to legislation.[/QUOTE]Our Lord and Savior loves hookers as does Elon (I'm pretty sure he likes the FKKs) and most other real men in DC.

Democrats on the other hand see buying poosy akin to raaape.

If buying poosy overseas is made illegal it will come from NGOs thru USAID from the likes of Hillary Kamala AOC Pelosi and feminist voters like you ET and Spidy.

Here's some great news for you.

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2025/05/16/elderly-chinese-woman-dies-when-forced-to-leave-hospital-for-bank-withdrawal/[/URL]

Living outside the USA is awesome lololololololol.

Christian Nationalists? Lololol.

That bogeyman died a few decades ago bro!! Circa the 90's.

Don't you see the extreme hypocrisy on your part, you like hookers but vote for feminist policies.

I'm pretty sure you monger in all very right wing countries too.

Please tell us why you don't monger in feminist Scandinavia.

They would throw you in prison and throw away the key.

Do you know what the "Swedish Model" is?

The hooker is a victim and you are a raaapist.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3003960][B]Kamala Harris Would Beat Donald Trump if Election Held Again: Poll
May 15, 2025[/B]

[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/kamala-harris-beat-donald-trump-election-held-today-poll-2072730[/URL]

115 days of a "honeymoon" with this historically disastrous Trump's Pandemic Part 2 term is more than enough for the overwhelming majority of Americans to stomach. Since then several polls have shown that voters don't trust Trump on the economy. That includes the Strength In Numbers/Verasight poll which shows that Trump's net approval on the economy stands at -17 points, with 38 approving and 58 disapproving.

Trump fares even worse on the issue of prices and inflation, with his net approval at -32 points, with 31 percent approving and 63 percent disapproving..[/QUOTE]Yeah, no shit. That is because you Democratic douches and the lame stream media keep going on and on about tariffs and inflation lying your asses off.

[URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/umich-sentiment-collapses-near-45-year-record-lows-democrats-inflation-dissonance[/URL]

Having embarrassed themselves with their TDS-driven cognitive dissonance over the past few months, Democrat-voting UMich respondents (and women, and low income Americans) in the preliminary May survey (a month after Liberation Day and also post-Pause and the massive meltup in stocks) turned the TDS-terror dial to '11'.

Consumer Expectations are now at their lowest since. Drum roll please. May 1980.

Tariffs were spontaneously mentioned by nearly three-quarters of consumers, up from almost 60% in April; uncertainty over trade policy continues to dominate consumers' thinking about the economy.

(I bet most consumers have no fucking clue what % the tariffs even are).

Year-ahead inflation expectations surged from 6. 7% last month to 7. 3% this month, the highest reading since 1981 and marking five consecutive months of unusually large increases of 0. 5 percentage points or more.

Long-run inflation expectations climbed from 4. 4% in April to 4. 6% in May, reflecting a particularly large jump among Democrats to a ridiculous 9. 6% over the next year!!

Finally, given their historic track record (completely refusing to acknowledge the surge in inflation under Biden), should we simply be ignoring the manic Democrats screaming about inflation now?

Sorry, one more that made us fucking laugh. One-third of women surveyed believe inflation over the next year will be 15% or higher.

So someone is lying: actual spending all time high while reported sentiment (based on 250 polled UMich respondents) is all time low.

Perhaps that explains why soft survey data has started to turn back up to hard data reality in the last week as it's hard to hate and keep pushing out your depression-era forecasts when stocks are at record highs and jobless claims remain near record lows.

End of link.

PPI which front runs the consumer price index was down 0. 4% in March and 0. 5% in April, and yet we have these crazy Democratic douche female loons predicting 15% inflation. Jesus, you cannot make this shit up. At least Wall Street has figured it out and the market has rallied.

The lies being told are just unfucking believable.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;3004050]You would have fit in incredibly well in 1930's Germany No doubt. Constitution extends the right of due process to non-citizens as well.

Amazing you swallowed the nonsense about savages coming into the United States. You do realize that without the labor of illegal aliens or their numbers the United States population will start to fall quite rapidly leaving it in the same situation as Europe in Japan.

Destroying the rule of law? That's exactly what maga is bent on doing.

It's comical you mentioned the rule of law but you think it should be used to selectively and only for certain people.[/QUOTE]You really hate white people and then turn around and have the temerity to project and insinuate I'm a Nazi wow so bold and original LMFAO.

I'm sure you're another lesbo Madcow sycophant, do you jerk off to him like ET and Spidy too?

I'm sure glad your hypocritical ass lives in the land of sex slaves and slave labor and aren't my neighbor.

You Spidy and ET should be room mates.

I can only imagine your PMs LMFAO.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3004077]You really hate white people and then turn around and have the temerity to project and insinuate I'm a Nazi wow so bold and original LMFAO. [/QUOTE]

[i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i] Hey let's not forget our VP JD "the Couch Creamer" Vance, certainly called out his boss as a Nazi aka. America's Hitler, and aka. "the American Fuhrer!" And your Fuhrer, being the narcissist he is, for the most part, took it as a compliment and loved the comparison! [i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i]

But back to more Dems winning, as [i][b]Nebraska's first Black mayor[/b][/i]...crushes Repub incumbent!

John Ewing set to become Omaha's first Black mayor and flip the office as Omaha elects first Black mayor (with 56.3%), crushing and ousting Republican leadership of Nebraska's largest city [i][b](by margin of 12.6% points)[/b][/i], a race she'd previously won with 63%. Ewing will also be the first Democrat to serve as Omaha mayor since 2013.

[url]https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/5/15/2322567/-Omaha-Democratic-Mayor-Elect-John-Ewing-Jr[/url]

All thanks, to "...you know who" and president Musk, from the ruby red state of Nebraska.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;3004065]As someone who lives the lifestyle discussed on this board, embracing Donald trump, project 2025, and Christian nationalists is certainly not in your best interest. A bill was just introduced to outlaw all pornography Nationwide. Christian nationalists are not your friend dude. Just waiting for the bill to make it a criminal act for Americans to engage in paid sex overseas. Look what both sides have done did the hobby in the United States. [b]You can say what you want about gay and trans people, but they tend to be far more libertine September then work feminists or Christian Nationals. And I think the Christian nationalists have much more pull when it comes to legislation.[/b][/QUOTE]

Absolutely Correct!

Don't forget, these would be the same MAGA/Repubs knuckleheads, that thought their American Fuhrer, wouldn't be stupid enough to touch Medicaid, Medicare and Social Security. It's not the first time or the last, these suckers have voted or acted against their best interest and then regretted it.

Time and time again, they have been duped, hoodwinked and suckered into thinking the Fuhrer, had nothing to do with evils and authoritarian fascist right-wing policies outlined in Project 2025.

[b]Mom rips clueless GOP lawmaker who asked 12-year-old girl about pornography[/b], April 19, 2025
[url]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14627203/pennsylvania-state-senator-porn-question-sixth-grade-girl.html[/url]

This clueless Repub/GOP Senator from Pennsylvania, is about as clueless as those here, that think because their American Fuhrer sleeps with hookers, prostitutes and porn-stars, won't adopt yet another one of his many hypocritical [b][i]"Law and Order for Thee, Not for Me"[/b][/i] policies.

Where naturally MAGA sycophants are exempt from the law and rule of law, providing of course, they bend the knee, grovel enough, pay ($$$$) enough, or simply willing to commit heinous crimes in his name, like Jan 6th!

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3003960][B]Kamala Harris Would Beat Donald Trump if Election Held Again: Poll
May 15, 2025[/B]

[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/kamala-harris-beat-donald-trump-election-held-today-poll-2072730[/URL]

115 days of a "honeymoon" with this historically disastrous Trump's Pandemic Part 2 term is more than enough for the overwhelming majority of Americans to stomach.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6qzYdGwQBY[/URL]

Please God Please.

Harris and AOC LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3004073]Yeah, no shit. That is because you Democratic douches and the lame stream media keep going on and on about tariffs and inflation lying your asses off.

[URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/umich-sentiment-collapses-near-45-year-record-lows-democrats-inflation-dissonance[/URL]

Having embarrassed themselves with their TDS-driven cognitive dissonance over the past few months, Democrat-voting UMich respondents (and women, and low income Americans) in the preliminary May survey (a month after Liberation Day and also post-Pause and the massive meltup in stocks) turned the TDS-terror dial to '11'.

Consumer Expectations are now at their lowest since. Drum roll please. May 1980.

Tariffs were spontaneously mentioned by nearly three-quarters of consumers, up from almost 60% in April; uncertainty over trade policy continues to dominate consumers' thinking about the economy.

(I bet most consumers have no fucking clue what % the tariffs even are).

Year-ahead inflation expectations surged from 6. 7% last month to 7. 3% this month, the highest reading since 1981 and marking five consecutive months of unusually large increases of 0. 5 percentage points or more.

Long-run inflation expectations climbed from 4. 4% in April to 4. 6% in May, reflecting a particularly large jump among Democrats to a ridiculous 9. 6% over the next year!!

Finally, given their historic track record (completely refusing to acknowledge the surge in inflation under Biden), should we simply be ignoring the manic Democrats screaming about inflation now?

Sorry, one more that made us fucking laugh. One-third of women surveyed believe inflation over the next year will be 15% or higher.

So someone is lying: actual spending all time high while reported sentiment (based on 250 polled UMich respondents) is all time low.

Perhaps that explains why soft survey data has started to turn back up to hard data reality in the last week as it's hard to hate and keep pushing out your depression-era forecasts when stocks are at record highs and jobless claims remain near record lows.

End of link.

PPI which front runs the consumer price index was down 0. 4% in March and 0. 5% in April, and yet we have these crazy Democratic douche female loons predicting 15% inflation. Jesus, you cannot make this shit up. At least Wall Street has figured it out and the market has rallied.

The lies being told are just unfucking believable.[/QUOTE]Oh lookie here! Trump is now recommending that Walmart "eat" all those 100's of Billions of dollars China is GIVING America with his Trump Tariffs Taxes on the American Consumer.

[B]Trump tells Walmart to 'eat the tariffs' after retailer warned of higher prices.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/17/trump-tells-walmart-to-eat-the-tariffs.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

But but but how then will ordinary Americans get ALL of their needs and wants paid for by China "paying" those Trump Tariffs if Walmart eats them?

See, once "eaten" there will not be any of that Chinese money to pay for Childcare because Childcare is Childcare and groceries, god I'm glad Trump invented that word.

LOL. Now, seriously, how hilarious is it that The Worst Economic Results Since Herbert Hoover so-called president Donald Trump's months and months if not years and years long blitheringly incoherent blather about Who Pays Tariffs is shrugged off as perfectly acceptable while One Of The Greatest Economic Records Of All Time President Joe Biden not immediately remembering the year one of his sons died is triggering nation-wide pearl clutching?

Less that 10 years after the fact I could not have told you which year my mother or father died. As important as events like that are in our lives I doubt many of us mark the exact year in our memory banks in order to recall and commemorate each of them year after year. We move on. And a president typically commemorates a thousand mortal events every year anyway.

Trump has already forgotten he took the Oath of Office to uphold the Constitution of the United States. And that was barely 115 days ago.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3004234][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6qzYdGwQBY[/URL]

Please God Please.

Harris and AOC LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.[/QUOTE]Yes, both of them were right about everything. LOL.

What we have here is another in a seemingly never-ending series of Trump Bowel Evacuations, not even rising to the nutitional level of a Word Salad.

And every other World Leader and serious Business Leader knew it:

[B]Trump Rambles About Ukraine, Drones, Trees, Duffy, Biden, Buttigieg and Bicycles In Less Than a Minute[/B]

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/reel/DJrSRZXxZLN/?igsh=MW1lYzZxd2gzb3dpZQ==[/URL]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3004337]Yes, both of them were right about everything. LOL.[/QUOTE]Lololololololololololol.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3002789]Yeah, I have been listening to this since I heard people hawking gold. I think you are confusing money printing with credit. When the USA government gives people a dollar, it is as a loan via treasury bills and notes. If the USA prints up too many dollars, people demand a higher interest rate, and the government has to pay. It is not a free lunch as the gold bugs promote.

And the creation of money is not just at the hands of the government. Anyone who gives someone else credit is creating money. The worse the risk, the higher the rate is. In short, money creation is limited by the faith of the lender. If the lender does not have faith he will be paid back, money creation dries up.

When I went to a shareholder meeting of a Venezuelan telephone company, I heard Venezuelan after Venezuelan talk about fucking over Verizon which owned 25% of the company by breaking their own laws. Verizon (which was GTE) literally laid down all the phone lines in that country. When I heard that, I knew that Venezuela, which at the time had the largest proven oil reserves in the world, was done for a generation. Until Venezuelans respect lenders, they will be poor.

When I went to American banks to get a mortgage to buy land in Latin America, they would not lend me the money. They would do a personal loan but not a mortgage. Yet real estate prices in Latin countries went through the roof. I was in Paraguay and a decent house was $300,000. I was like who in Paraguay has that kind of cash? That is a price to income ratio of 50! What was happening is European banks particularly French ones were doing the lending and unlike American banks, they have not taken their haircuts. A lot of the reason the USA gets flak is our honesty with the numbers (well, before Biden anyway).

Right now, Greece, remember them, has lower interest rates than the USA. Now do you think that is because they are a better credit risk or they are hiding their debt? A free market is based on honesty, and the Greeks have never been honest.

When I went to Latin countries and asked why they were so poor, the reason I was given was corruption. That implies it is government and not the fault of the people though. What I saw by going to Venezuela is Hugo Chavez and his stealing was a symptom and not the cause of the issue. The problem was and is the Venezuelan citizens absolutely disdain for the rights of lenders and so no one wants to extend them credit. The corruption part is the government not sticking up for lenders.

So when you talk about the "free market" and China, what are you talking about? What is the credit system in China? Is it open? Is there transparency? Would you loan money to China and if so, how would you assess the risk and the interest rate you should be paid? And with what would you want to be paid back your interest?

One of Warren Buffett's sayings is "Only when the tide goes out do you discover who's been swimming naked". What that means is if the French banks keep on their books that the homes in their Paraguayan real estate portfolio are valued at $300,000 apiece, everything is fine. Only when they are forced to liquidate the asset or the government demands a realistic valuation is when the tide goes out.

And banks are not like other businesses. If they lever up 10:1, then a 10% reduction in asset prices renders them insolvent. So for all your disdain for the American system and how flawed it is, be honest. You have no clue how the Chinese credit system operates. And you know how I know? Because if you did, there is no way in hell you would be pushing China over the USA.[/QUOTE]Yes, I admit that the Chinese credit system is opaque but seriously Elvis to make the claim that the American is in a better position than China on debt is laughable. Have you completely forgotten the financial crisis of 2008? America is still reeling from that and as I explained to you earlier this, the money printing here (QE), during COVID and your multiple wars constitute a substantial portion of the national debt (or at least when QT occurs). There are no free lunches.

We can debate who's debt is a bigger issue. Let's resort to some facts. [URL]https://www.fidelityinternational.com/editorial/article/how-china-keeps-its-debt-in-order-e1feea-en5/.[/URL] So it is in a bad place, as I already acknowledged. Meanwhile, the US national debt alone is 125% of GDP. Add on household debt and that's another 60%+ of GDP [URL]https://www.ceicdata.com/en/indicator/united-states/household-debt--of-nominal-gdp[/URL]#text=United%20 States%20 Household%20 Debt%3 A%20%25%20 of%20 GDP,-1999%20%2 D%202024%20%7 C%20 Quarterly&text=United%20 States%20 household%20 debt%20 accounted, Mar%201999%20 to%20 Dec%202024.

And then there's corporate debt etc.

Here's the thing. China is a net saver. They have a huge amount of savings offsetting the debt. In fact they save way too much. [URL]https://www.ft.com/content/cc40794b-abbb-4677-8a2a-4b10b12b6ff5[/URL].

They comprised around 28% of the entire world's savings last year. Please look back to my conversation with Tiny to see the relevance of this, and let me summarise it simply. The difference between a country's production and its consumption is its savings. The difference between the country's savings rates and its investments is its current account (and this is not synonymous with its trade balance as many people mistakenly believe). So these 4 concepts underpin the American issue: Production, consumption, savings, investment. The savings. Investment deficit needs to be financed and that is through a current account deficit. That's it. So your solution is straightforward. You either increase your savings, or reduce your investment (latter not ideal). But you can't increase your savings unless you reduce your consumption or increase your production. Trump's batshit idea is that somehow you're going to get all these companies producing your Iphones and laptops and consumer goods to somehow onshore and increase capacity when you have neither the manpower or skills or capacity or resources and even if you did it would result in a much higher cost or a much lower wage. As for you're going to "automate it"- right LOL, the Chinese don't know about automation already right? They make the west look so 20th century.

So production cannot increase massively, meaning your consumption has to go down. I don't know why you would argue with me here as it seems to be what you're endorsing with regards to the public sector. I however think you're a little too fixated on sweating the small stuff and not enough on the big picture which as I said is healthcare and defence. Maybe being Israel's lapdog is not in your interest?

Anyway, the bottom line remains- you are seriously underestimating China. I have explained before their psyche- they will not let them be humiliated again. They will play the long game, and it may not be 5 years but 10 before they get military supremacy over America where it matters. America cannot afford to continue to outspend them. And even if it does, they'll make a better product. Be it a plane or a train- at half the cost, as they showed the world recently in destroying the French Rafael's with their J-10's. The best days of America are behind it.

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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;3004065]As someone who lives the lifestyle discussed on this board, embracing Donald trump, project 2025, and Christian nationalists is certainly not in your best interest. A bill was just introduced to outlaw all pornography Nationwide. Christian nationalists are not your friend dude. Just waiting for the bill to make it a criminal act for Americans to engage in paid sex overseas. Look what both sides have done did the hobby in the United States. You can say what you want about gay and trans people, but they tend to be far more libertine September than work feminists or Christian Nationals. And I think the Christian nationalists have much more pull when it comes to legislation.[/QUOTE]Who can we thank for this?

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mann_Act[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3004525]If you are going to fly a woman to the USA, make sure you check out the Mann Act.It is best that you do not use your credit card for a purchase. Use a gift card without your name on it and try to make it seem like the woman is flying to the USA for a reason other than to see you if she is asked. I had a woman flown in from Mexico who dressed provocatively and customs gave her a horribly hard time. When I finally met her, she was balling her eyes out, and she had been to the USA before. There has been a huge emphasis on so called "trafficking" and LE has used the Mann Act in some pretty fucked up ways in the past.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HotDog666;3004462]Yes, I admit that the Chinese credit system is opaque but seriously Elvis to make the claim that the American is in a better position than China on debt is laughable. Have you completely forgotten the financial crisis of 2008? America is still reeling from that and as I explained to you earlier this, the money printing here (QE), during COVID and your multiple wars constitute a substantial portion of the national debt (or at least when QT occurs).[/QUOTE]Dude, you just blew off the entire Chinese credit issue outside of agreeing with me. You then list all the problems the USA had and blow off all the issues China has. American banks were forced to write down real estate in 2008 and 2009. China HAS NOT DONE THAT WRITE DOWN. You have missed China printed like crazy with Covid and has done so in this recent trade war as well.

[QUOTE=HotDog666;3004462]But you can't increase your savings unless you reduce your consumption or increase your production.[/QUOTE]That assumes 0% return on your savings rate, which it is not, and that makes your analysis meaningless.

[QUOTE=HotDog666;3004462]So your solution is straightforward. You either increase your savings, or reduce your investment (latter not ideal).[/QUOTE]And what about underlying assets and asset appreciation? That is nowhere to be found either. There is no discussion on rule of law and property protection either. What good are savings when the government can take them whenever they want?

These two paragraphs completely blow your argument out of the water, [URL]https://www.hinrichfoundation.com/research/article/us-china/why-china-is-in-a-massive-consumption-slump/[/URL].

In the case of China "property income" for the household sector in 2019 and 2020 was around 4. 5% of GDP, and closer to 3% of GDP on a net basis. In contrast, in the US, this number was about 15% of GDP. This reflects the higher returns on US financial and real assets. It is worth considering here the penchant China's middle class has for sitting on vacant apartments and the amount of household net worth tied up in such vacant property; the low dividend payout ratios for listed Chinese companies; and, perhaps most importantly, the low bank interest rates paid to depositors and the lack of alternative avenues for revenue generation.

In other words, China's high savings suffer from financial repression: capital controls force them to maintain their savings onshore and a state-owned financial intermediation industry pays them a poor return on their savings. This in turn reduces household income and therefore curtails their ability to spend. The Chinese saver has therefore been made by policy to finance huge government-driven investments, which are earning increasingly low returns.

[QUOTE=HotDog666;3004462]Trump's batshit idea is that somehow you're going to get all these companies producing your Iphones and laptops and consumer goods to somehow onshore and increase capacity when you have neither the manpower or skills or capacity or resources and even if you did it would result in a much higher cost or a much lower wage.[/QUOTE]Trump was just accelerating a trend of moving some production away from China to the USA that was happening post-Covid. Your analysis is entirely cost driven and does not account for the reliability of a supply chain. That is why the supply chain is and was moving out of China even before Trump, and it never was all going to the USA.

[QUOTE=HotDog666;3004462]You are seriously underestimating China.[/QUOTE]When you explain to me to property rights, the credit system, the real debt China has, the real estate market, how China restricts trading in foreign currencies, and the demographic decline, get back to me. There is nothing new you are bringing to the table. I heard the same shit about Japan in the early 80's and 90's and have heard the gold bug shit about America's decline for decades as well. Japan was a way more formidable competitor than China ever was, and you have not explained why the projections about Japan taking over the world were wrong. Your opinion does not matter to me because it is not based on facts but a bunch of half-truths. All you do is list all the problems the USA has and ignore all the ones China has.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3004244]Oh lookie here! Trump is now recommending that Walmart "eat" all those 100's of Billions of dollars China is GIVING America with his Trump Tariffs Taxes on the American Consumer.[/QUOTE]Ah yes, classic Democrat logic. Trump wants to fund part of the deficit reduction with tariffs. I wish it were hundreds of billions. So Trump tells Walmart to not charge more when the tariffs kick in. What he means is do not use the tariffs as an excuse to massively raise prices and blame him.

Meanwhile, we have Spidy going on about billionaire greed. Last I check the biggest holder of Walmart stock was the Walton family made up of several billionaires. So Trump tells Walmart to not screw over consumers and enrich the Walton billionaires, and you are condemning it? We all know that no matter what Trump says or does you are going to condemn it. It is all Dem good, Republican bad.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3004244]Now, seriously, how hilarious is it that The Worst Economic Results Since Herbert Hoover[/QUOTE]This is just a pure lie.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3004244]President Joe Biden not immediately remembering the year one of his sons died is triggering nation-wide pearl clutching?

Less that 10 years after the fact I could not have told you which year my mother or father died. As important as events like that are in our lives I doubt many of us mark the exact year in our memory banks in order to recall and commemorate each of them year after year. We move on. And a president typically commemorates a thousand mortal events every year anyway.[/QUOTE]Yeah, well, we just heard this news, [URL]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/white-house-says-trump-trusts-his-physicians-following-bidens-cancer-announcement[/URL].

President Donald Trump remains confident in White House doctors despite the possibility that they missed a prostate cancer diagnosis for former President Joe Biden while he was in office, the White House says. Speculation has exploded in the days since Biden announced he has stage 4 metastatic prostate cancer this weekend, a diagnosis that typically takes years to develop.

Let me clue you in on something, Tooms. There is no fucking way the White House doctors missed this diagnosis. They covered it up along with Biden's mental decline.

As for your comparing yourself mentally to Biden, I agree that it is possible that you are just as demented as he is.

The issue with Biden is not forgetting one fact about his son. It is that he could not recall the dates on anything. We all know that all you Democrats care about is power. Hell, you do not care that the person calling the shots in a Biden presidency was not Biden himself. You would violate the rule of law and vote for the corpse of Biden if you could over any Republican. That he is dead or brain dead does not matter to you. All you care about is that your government checks keep flowing.

And deep down, we all know that you Democratic douches wanted Trump assassinated and dead. You do that when you call him the Fuhrer and Republicans Nazis.

For those of who care about Democracy, the question to us is who was really running things with Biden so out to lunch? The first thing that happens when a will is contested is you look at if the person signing the will was mentally competent. That often is a question of relying on the testimony of medical professionals, and their credibility has just taken a huge hit.

I agree with not prosecuting Biden. You cannot get past the burden of reasonable doubt with a guy that demented. However, if he cannot stand trial due to mental incompetence, why the hell are his pardons legal? In fact, legally speaking, everything Biden has done now could comes under scrutiny.

Not only was there this mental decline with Biden, he was walking around with Stage 4 cancer, and you Democratic douches are so stupid you keep going on about how sharp he was and making excuses for him. That is why I keep calling you Democratic douches. You do not have one objective cell in your bodies.

Meanwhile, you cannot help yourself demonizing Trump, yet there is no doubt in anyone's mind that he is the one calling the shots is there? Maybe some day you will get the importance of that.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3004675]Ah yes, classic Democrat logic. Trump wants to fund part of the deficit reduction with tariffs. I wish it were hundreds of billions. So Trump tells Walmart to not charge more when the tariffs kick in. What he means is do not use the tariffs as an excuse to massively raise prices and blame him.

Meanwhile, we have Spidy going on about billionaire greed. Last I check the biggest holder of Walmart stock was the Walton family made up of several billionaires. So Trump tells Walmart to not screw over consumers and enrich the Walton billionaires, and you are condemning it? We all know that no matter what Trump says or does you are going to condemn it. It is all Dem good, Republican bad.

This is just a pure lie.

Yeah, well, we just heard this news, [URL]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/white-house-says-trump-trusts-his-physicians-following-bidens-cancer-announcement[/URL].

President Donald Trump remains confident in White House doctors despite the possibility that they missed a prostate cancer diagnosis for former President Joe Biden while he was in office, the White House says. Speculation has exploded in the days since Biden announced he has stage 4 metastatic prostate cancer this weekend, a diagnosis that typically takes years to develop.

Let me clue you in on something, Tooms. There is no fucking way the White House doctors missed this diagnosis. They covered it up along with Biden's mental decline.

As for your comparing yourself mentally to Biden, I agree that it is possible that you are just as demented as he is.

The issue with Biden is not forgetting one fact about his son. It is that he could not recall the dates on anything. We all know that all you Democrats care about is power. Hell, you do not care that the person calling the shots in a Biden presidency was not Biden himself. You would violate the rule of law and vote for the corpse of Biden if you could over any Republican. That he is dead or brain dead does not matter to you. All you care about is that your government checks keep flowing.

And deep down, we all know that you Democratic douches wanted Trump assassinated and dead. You do that when you call him the Fuhrer and Republicans Nazis.

For those of who care about Democracy, the question to us is who was really running things with Biden so out to lunch? The first thing that happens when a will is contested is you look at if the person signing the will was mentally competent. That often is a question of relying on the testimony of medical professionals, and their credibility has just taken a huge hit.

I agree with not prosecuting Biden. You cannot get past the burden of reasonable doubt with a guy that demented. However, if he cannot stand trial due to mental incompetence, why the hell are his pardons legal? In fact, legally speaking, everything Biden has done now could comes under scrutiny.

Not only was there this mental decline with Biden, he was walking around with Stage 4 cancer, and you Democratic douches are so stupid you keep going on about how sharp he was and making excuses for him. That is why I keep calling you Democratic douches. You do not have one objective cell in your bodies.

Meanwhile, you cannot help yourself demonizing Trump, yet there is no doubt in anyone's mind that he is the one calling the shots is there? Maybe some day you will get the importance of that.[/QUOTE]You just flunked Trumpese Con Man Language Translation.

When Trump decides to go Full Blown Socialist and tell WalMart how much profit they can make, the word "eat" is merely the substitute word for "pay" when his Con Man instincts tell him he cannot use the word "pay" after he has put so much time and energy into telling MAGA suckers like you that nobody in America will "pay" his Trump Tariff Taxes on American Consumers, that China will "pay" us 100's of Billions and lying that they will be paid by China or little green men from Mars.

So he says "eat the Trump Tariffs" to an American company when he knows American companies and American Consumers are the ones who will "pay" the Trump Tariffs.

If you don't understand that or if Trump doesn't understand his own Con and you accept that he is just selectively blitheringly confused about it, then BOTH of you are more cognitively impaired than Joe Biden has ever been in his entire life right up to this very day.

"Ahem".

Stop lying:

[B]Growth of US economy under Trump was worst since Hoover.
Aug. 3, 2021[/B]

[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/growth-us-economy-under-trump-214116363.html[/URL]

[B]Trump Leaving Office With 3M Less Jobs Than When He Entered, Worst Record Since Depression.
Jan. 19, 2021[/B]

[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/trump-leaving-office-3m-less-jobs-when-he-entered-worst-record-since-depression-1562737[/URL]

[B]Trump to leave office with the worst jobs record since Herbert Hoover.
Jan. 11, 2021[/B]

[URL]https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-leave-office-worst-jobs-030044152.html[/URL]

BONUS LINKS:

[B]The envy of the world.
The American economy has left other rich countries in the dust. Expect that to continue, argue Simon Rabinovitch and Henry Curr.
Oct. 19, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://www.economist.com/special-report/2024-10-19[/URL]

[B]The Next President Inherits a Remarkable Economy.
The high quality of recent economic growth should put a wind at the back of the White Houses next occupant.
Oct. 31, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://www.wsj.com/economy/the-next-president-inherits-a-remarkable-economy-7be2d059[/URL]

Trump's thousands upon thousands of lies, cons and bullshit finally reached the breaking point in the Real World of Real Business with Real Money:

[B]Why Walmart decided to say it would raise prices and risk Trump's fury.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/20/walmart-price-increases-trump-tariffs.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]Walmarts announcement on Thursday that it will hike some prices due to tariffs came at a risk and led to a critical social media post by President Donald Trump.

The big-box retailers thinner margins, price-sensitive customers and desire to influence policymakers decisions may have factored into its decision to speak out, according to retail analysts.

More companies have been speaking out about U.S. tariffs since April 9, according to Gravity Research, a Washington, D.C.-based firm that helps corporations navigate reputational risk.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3004767]You just flunked Trumpese Con Man Language Translation.[/QUOTE]Anybody who does not agree with your delusion you think has flunked. You think Trump is evil and want him dead. If anyone says anything positive about him, you come unglued.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3004767]When Trump decides to go Full Blown Socialist and tell WalMart how much profit they can make, the word "eat" is merely the substitute word for "pay" when his Con Man instincts tell him he cannot use the word "pay" after he has put so much time and energy into telling MAGA suckers like you that nobody in America will "pay" his Trump Tariff Taxes on American Consumers, that China will "pay" us 100's of Billions and lying that they will be paid by China or little green men from Mars. So he says "eat the Trump Tariffs" to an American company when he knows American companies and American Consumers are the ones who will "pay" the Trump Tariffs.[/QUOTE]Oh yeah, you do not have to wait for Walmart profit margins, inflation numbers, or trade deficit numbers, you have it all figured out.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3004767]If you don't understand that or if Trump doesn't understand his own Con and you accept that he is just selectively blitheringly confused about it, then BOTH of you are more cognitively impaired than Joe Biden has ever been in his entire life right up to this very day.[/QUOTE]Trump just played you and you are so pathetic you cannot admit it. Every time Trump plays the "I am a crazy motherfucker" card, you Democratic douches fall for it. Trump is so crazy he is putting 145% tariffs on China! He is going to wreck the economy! The market tanks, and what do I say? He has a plan, and I know what it is. When you negotiate, you want the other side to think you are nuts, and most people bought it that he was nuts.

So Trump acts rationally and takes the tariffs down to 30% and the market rallies. If he started at 30%, people would have freaked out, and the market would have tanked. When he started at 145% and came down to 30%, people were grateful and the market rallied.

And what do you do? Continue to think you are right and lie about Herbert Hoover numbers. You are the one who was conned by Trump, again, and you have no choice but to lie about it.

What is hilarious to me is that Trump keeps running the same play, and it works over and over again, and the reason it works is you Democratic douches refuse to admit that Trump is rational. One of the calling cards to being in the Democratic cult is saying Trump is Hitler, a socialist, not rich. You douches compete over who can insult him best, and he keeps using that to kick your asses.

The only way you can win is if you admit Trump is rational and counter him with logic or an alternative plan, and you all refuse to do that. Kamala tried the I am not Trump strategy. I am not the bigot, racist, sexist, socialist, Nazi that he is, and she fell on her face. And do you admit failure and change course? No, you think the reason you lost was a Muslim conspiracy.

The dumbest line of all was that blacks cannot be racist. The name given for that stupidity now making the rounds is black fatigue. I will go one better. Everyone is sick of the name calling that I call Democratic douche fatigue. Can't you douches come up with anything outside of griping about Trump?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3004675]Ah yes, classic Democrat logic. Trump wants to fund part of the deficit reduction with tariffs. I wish it were hundreds of billions. So Trump tells Walmart to not charge more when the tariffs kick in. What he means is do not use the tariffs as an excuse to massively raise prices and blame him.

Meanwhile, we have Spidy going on about billionaire greed. Last I check the biggest holder of Walmart stock was the Walton family made up of several billionaires. So Trump tells Walmart to not screw over consumers and enrich the Walton billionaires, and you are condemning it? We all know that no matter what Trump says or does you are going to condemn it. It is all Dem good, Republican bad.

This is just a pure lie.

Yeah, well, we just heard this news, [URL]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/white-house-says-trump-trusts-his-physicians-following-bidens-cancer-announcement[/URL].

President Donald Trump remains confident in White House doctors despite the possibility that they missed a prostate cancer diagnosis for former President Joe Biden while he was in office, the White House says. Speculation has exploded in the days since Biden announced he has stage 4 metastatic prostate cancer this weekend, a diagnosis that typically takes years to develop.

Let me clue you in on something, Tooms. There is no fucking way the White House doctors missed this diagnosis. They covered it up along with Biden's mental decline.

As for your comparing yourself mentally to Biden, I agree that it is possible that you are just as demented as he is..[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2025/05/19/white-house-walmart-can-get-suppliers-to-eat-tariffs-over-time-may-be-some-short-term-volatility/[/URL]

All he cares about is what is good for CCP suppliers and he loves anything that is bad for the US and Americans.

Our Lord and Savior could single handedly come up with the cure for all cancers today and he would ***** about it.

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/05/20/nolte-donald-trumps-job-approval-soars-55/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/bidens-was-first-fully-deep-state-presidency[/URL]

4 Very very long years of Weekend at Bidens.

He and Scumbag Bubba will go down in history as thee absolute worst presidents ever, by lightyears.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3004858]Anybody who does not agree with your delusion you think has flunked. You think Trump is evil and want him dead. If anyone says anything positive about him, you come unglued.

Oh yeah, you do not have to wait for Walmart profit margins, inflation numbers, or trade deficit numbers, you have it all figured out.

Trump just played you and you are so pathetic you cannot admit it. Every time Trump plays the "I am a crazy motherfucker" card, you Democratic douches fall for it. Trump is so crazy he is putting 145% tariffs on China! He is going to wreck the economy! The market tanks, and what do I say? He has a plan, and I know what it is. When you negotiate, you want the other side to think you are nuts, and most people bought it that he was nuts.

So Trump acts rationally and takes the tariffs down to 30% and the market rallies. If he started at 30%, people would have freaked out, and the market would have tanked. When he started at 145% and came down to 30%, people were grateful and the market rallied.

And what do you do? Continue to think you are right and lie about Herbert Hoover numbers. You are the one who was conned by Trump, again, and you have no choice but to lie about it.

What is hilarious to me is that Trump keeps running the same play, and it works over and over again, and the reason it works is you Democratic douches refuse to admit that Trump is rational. One of the calling cards to being in the Democratic cult is saying Trump is Hitler, a socialist, not rich. You douches compete over who can insult him best, and he keeps using that to kick your asses.

The only way you can win is if you admit Trump is rational and counter him with logic or an alternative plan, and you all refuse to do that. Kamala tried the I am not Trump strategy. I am not the bigot, racist, sexist, socialist, Nazi that he is, and she fell on her face. And do you admit failure and change course? No, you think the reason you lost was a Muslim conspiracy.

The dumbest line of all was that blacks cannot be racist. The name given for that stupidity now making the rounds is black fatigue. I will go one better. Everyone is sick of the name calling that I call Democratic douche fatigue. Can't you douches come up with anything outside of griping about Trump?[/QUOTE]As usual, your links to support your contention that I was wrong or lying and you were right are compelling and inarguable except, oh wait, you HAVE NO links to support your contention and I posted several to support my contention and could have posted hundreds more! Lololol.

So your lord and savior Trump only pretends to be a know nothing, do nothing, deadbeat numbskull as a clever tactic to achieve his brilliant ultimate goal of producing The Worst Economic Results Since Herbert Hoover, does he?

Well, my my my, you have certainly shown me how clever he was to trick someone like me and those bi-partisan Presidential Historians who justifiably ranked him The Worst President in History. Lolol. Man, is my face red. LOL.

Right up until this past week I have seen Joe Biden walk, talk, answer questions without notes where it was crystal clear he understood every syllable and nuance of the question in its explicit and implicit intent to which he delivered lucid, accurate, well-informed and wise responses.

People with significant or even moderately notable cognitive impairment can't do that.

Donald Trump can't do that. Or if he can I have never witnessed it.

Right up until the past six months I have seen and heard Joe Biden look to the left, look to the right, read a rolling text of a speech he obviously had as much of a hand in crafting and editing to reflect his position on complex Presidential level issues as any president in history and do it near flawlessly, obviously understanding every nuance and detail of every point, every amusing aside, every important aspect of it.

People with significant or notably moderate cognitive impairment can't do that.

Donald Trump can't do that.

People with significant cognitive impairment would look at one of those teleprompter screens and not know what it is or why it is there. They might ask what are those ants crawling all over that window.

Or they might drift off the task at hand within a minute and start weaving incoherence about being eaten by sharks, electrocuted by boat batteries or having dinner with an imaginary cannibal.

But they can not do what Joe Biden has so obviously been doing right up to this very minute, all while turning The Worst Economic Results Since The Great Repub Depression that was handed to him into The Envy of the World Economy with historically strong economic conditions that "pretend" numbskull Donald Trump is currently turning into shit before he kills it.

Getting dates wrong in the Hur interview that lasted several hours? So far I have only heard Biden mistakenly say "November 2017" instead of November 2016 election, a mistake regarding elections and taking office I have heard 45 year old network news anchors make. Many people flip the year of an actual election with the year a president actually took office. It is commonplace to hear pundits talk about something so-called president Ronald Reagan did "in 1980" when Ronald Reagan was not the so-called president until 1981.

And BTW if he is so bewildered about dates, how did he get the month right? In fact, if he has dementia, how did he even know he was being asked about a month and year?

Forgetting the year of his son's death? As commonplace a thing not to remember as anything most people would prefer to forget in the first place.

Donald Trump has never gotten a number right about anything. He will start out claiming 300 of something happened and by the end of the week will be claiming it is 10 Million. Oh, I forgot. He only does that to cleverly misdirect everyone from his inevitable achievement in producing crap results, right?

LOL. I just heard a 40-something year old news anchor on a major cable news network reporting and commenting on Biden's diagnosis of prostate cancer and mixed up Trump's name with Biden's. Her guest corrected her and she giggled and passed it off as being tired. LOL. Not half as tired as a Democratic President gets every time he has to recover some utter shit storm of economic disaster the outgoing Repub has handed him to fix! Which Joe Biden has been a top contributor to doing TWICE after just the two previous Repub Administrations.

Hey, guess what? It turns out many if not most top medical institutions and practitioners don't recommend the current prostate cancer test screening for men over age 70:

[B]Men Older Than 70 Years Continue to Be Overscreened for Prostate Cancer.
April 17, 2023[/B]

[URL]https://www.renalandurologynews.com/news/men-older-than-70-years-continue-to-be-overscreened-for-prostate-cancer/[/URL]

[QUOTE]Men aged 70 years or older continue to be overscreened for prostate cancer despite US Preventive Services Task Force recommendations against routine PSA screening for men in this age group, according to investigators.

PSA screening in older men who are unlikely to benefit from prostate cancer treatment exposes these men to anxiety, invasive biopsies, and possible overtreatment, they noted.[/QUOTE][B]When is it time to stop being checked for prostate cancer?
March 12,2014[/B]

[URL]https://www.health.harvard.edu/mens-health/when-is-it-time-to-stop-being-checked-for-prostate-cancer[/URL]

[QUOTE]Routine PSA testing to check for prostate cancer is no longer recommended for most men. But despite what the experts suggest, many men continue to opt for annual PSA tests. This includes a surprisingly large number of men in their 70's. In a recent study in the journal Cancer, more than half of a group of men 75 and older had PSA tests and biopsies. [/QUOTE]Shhh. Nobody tell the MAGA numbskulls over there on Fux News about this information that I have heard and understood for years and years without even doing serious research on the subject!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3004670]Dude, you just blew off the entire Chinese credit issue outside of agreeing with me. You then list all the problems the USA had and blow off all the issues China has. American banks were forced to write down real estate in 2008 and 2009. China HAS NOT DONE THAT WRITE DOWN. You have missed China printed like crazy with Covid and has done so in this recent trade war as well.

That assumes 0% return on your savings rate, which it is not, and that makes your analysis meaningless.

And what about underlying assets and asset appreciation? That is nowhere to be found either. There is no discussion on rule of law and property protection either. What good are savings when the government can take them whenever they want?

These two paragraphs completely blow your argument out of the water, [URL]https://www.hinrichfoundation.com/research/article/us-china/why-china-is-in-a-massive-consumption-slump/[/URL].[/QUOTE]Half-truths aka bullshit lies, CCP / WEF propaganda.

[URL]https://www.heritage.org/asia/report/china-paper-tiger-rare-earth-minerals[/URL]

[URL]https://pac.org/impact/china-financial-paper-tiger[/URL]

Japan, the CCP, Asia are all quintessential paper tigers.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3004880]Hey, guess what? It turns out many if not most top medical institutions and practitioners don't recommend the current prostate cancer test screening for men over age 70:

[B]Men Older Than 70 Years Continue to Be Overscreened for Prostate Cancer.
April 17, 2023[/B]

[URL]https://www.renalandurologynews.com/news/men-older-than-70-years-continue-to-be-overscreened-for-prostate-cancer/[/URL]

[B]When is it time to stop being checked for prostate cancer?
March 12,2014[/B]

[URL]https://www.health.harvard.edu/mens-health/when-is-it-time-to-stop-being-checked-for-prostate-cancer[/URL]

Shhh. Nobody tell the MAGA numbskulls over there on Fux News about this information that I have heard and understood for years and years without even doing serious research on the subject![/QUOTE][URL]https://www.thefp.com/p/when-did-biden-know-he-had-cancer[/URL]

While individuals who don't know anything about founding documents or how the legal system of the Dis-United States of America are making a poor attempt to school me on the country I grew up in, they are falling into the trap that the government that they supposedly opposed have set for them.

[B]They are being distracted by racism[/B]

The real issue in the Dis-United States of America is wealth inequality. I've already covered that in a earlier post. The only way one would reject that thesis is they have never actually been to the Dis-United States of America.

[QUOTE][b]Our Lord and Savior[/b] could single handedly come up with the cure for all cancers today and he would ***** about it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE][b]Our Lord and Savior is an Awesome God[/b][/QUOTE]Are we discussing politics or religion up in dis *****?

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3004873][URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/05/20/nolte-donald-trumps-job-approval-soars-55/[/URL][/QUOTE]Aw, so sad. That wildly outlier Insider / Advantage poll sure looks isolated and lonely out there.

See screenshots below:

[URL]https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/approval/donald-trump/approval-rating[/URL]

My god. How heavily must they have weighted that "Immigrants Eating The Cats and Eating The Dogs" nonsense question to come up with a 55% job approval rating for that numbskull? Lolol.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3004856]Trump's thousands upon thousands of lies, cons and bullshit finally reached the breaking point in the Real World of Real Business with Real Money:

[B]Why Walmart decided to say it would raise prices and risk Trump's fury.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/20/walmart-price-increases-trump-tariffs.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL][/QUOTE]Good photo, Putin playing with your too old, orange Pitbull who claimed to stop war in only 1 day, but when only bullshiting like for everything else, result is Putin just makes fun of him and keep on killing many Ukrainians.

USGOV is letting South Africans in (insert their color here) and keeping people of color (insert their color here) out. This strikes me as interesting policy. Rooted in the true nature of the Dis-United States of America.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3001814]Nope, sorry, the US Constitution is for Americans not people who come to our country illegally and commit crimes, and when we were founded as a nation, [b]we had slaves and only land owners could vote[/b]. Before an income tax and women could vote, the USA was the #1 economy in the world.[/QUOTE]Here we have an example of a [U]Republican[/U] (I don't even need to add the term everyone knows should be here) advocating for slavery again in order to: [B]make America great again[/B]!

[B]MAGA![/B]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3004879]As usual, your links to support your contention that I was wrong or lying and you were right are compelling and inarguable except, oh wait, you HAVE NO links to support your contention and I posted several to support my contention and could have posted hundreds more! Lololol.

So your lord and savior Trump only pretends to be a know nothing, do nothing, deadbeat numbskull as a clever tactic to achieve his brilliant ultimate goal of producing The Worst Economic Results Since Herbert Hoover, does he?[/QUOTE]You mean your lying link when you include the pandemic years in Trump's first term economic performance? Or when you lie and blame Trump for the pandemic versus China? Oh right, Trump had this team of scientists that he axed who could have saved the world. You do not know what they could have done but you are sure they could have done something.

And the Chinese who fucked up and let a pathogen out of their lab destroying so much wealth and killing so many? Oh yeah, they are great, but Trump sucks.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3004879]Right up until the past six months I have seen and heard Joe Biden look to the left, look to the right. People with significant or notably moderate cognitive impairment can't do that.[/QUOTE]So Biden can turn his head and you are saying he is mentally fine? Where do you come up with these bullshit lies?

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3004879]Donald Trump can't do that.[/QUOTE]If Trump were cognitively impaired and Biden was not, Oatmeal for Brains, then Trump should not have been prosecuted and Biden should have been. And if Biden was so mentally sharp, why did you Democratic douches kick him off the ticket? You are so cognitively impaired you cannot remember what you posted five seconds ago.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3004880]
Men aged 70 years or older continue to be overscreened for prostate cancer despite US Preventive Services Task Force recommendations against routine PSA screening for men in this age group, according to investigators. Shhh. Nobody tell the MAGA numbskulls over there on Fux News about this information that I have heard and understood for years and years without even doing serious research on the subject![/QUOTE]No, oatmeal for brains, you do not diagnose Stage 4 prostate cancer with a PSA. Do you orgasm with all your lies? And what is your point? Do you think Biden's doctors did not know he had prostate cancer? Maybe you should know how stage 4 prostate cancer is diagnosed first before you think you know so much.

I cannot believe someone so cocky posts such stupid things.

Why is France (who considers themselves the leader of Europe) not make a move to help Ukrainians independently of the Dis-United States of America by putting [I]boots on the ground[/I]?

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3004963]Good photo, Putin playing with your too old, orange Pitbull who claimed to stop war in only 1 day, but when only bullshiting like for everything else, result is Putin just makes fun of him and keep on killing many Ukrainians.[/QUOTE]Who has supplied the majority of weapons to the Ukrainians?

[B]The Defense Rests![/B]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3004994]No, oatmeal for brains, you do not diagnose Stage 4 prostate cancer with a PSA. Do you orgasm with all your lies? And what is your point? Do you think Biden's doctors did not know he had prostate cancer? Maybe you should know how stage 4 prostate cancer is diagnosed first before you think you know so much.[/QUOTE]Excuse me! I have been reading your posts for years Elvis 2008 and you failed to mention you had a MD.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2825778]Does this idiot get the concept of supply and demand [b]or is he another socialist[/b] that he thinks that he deserves better service because of his virtue signaling?[/QUOTE]While you are at it can you explain why you called me a socialist?

[QUOTE]But do not worry. SC swears it is going up so you should buy it. Maybe he can lecture everyone on these things after the racist comments and how big his dick is. And BTW, did he mention the killing he is making in gold?[/QUOTE]Have you checked the price of gold lately?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3004994]You mean your lying link when you include the pandemic years in Trump's first term economic performance? Or when you lie and blame Trump for the pandemic versus China? Oh right, Trump had this team of scientists that he axed who could have saved the world. You do not know what they could have done but you are sure they could have done something.

And the Chinese who fucked up and let a pathogen out of their lab destroying so much wealth and killing so many? Oh yeah, they are great, but Trump sucks.

So Biden can turn his head and you are saying he is mentally fine? Where do you come up with these bullshit lies?

If Trump were cognitively impaired and Biden was not, Oatmeal for Brains, then Trump should not have been prosecuted and Biden should have been. And if Biden was so mentally sharp, why did you Democratic douches kick him off the ticket? You are so cognitively impaired you cannot remember what you posted five seconds ago..[/QUOTE]Uh, yeah, no reason for anyone to study that post looking for a shred of substantiation for his assertions. They aren't there.

Because there aren't any to be found.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3005000]Why is France (who considers themselves the leader of Europe) not make a move to help Ukrainians independently of the Dis-United States of America by putting [I]boots on the ground[/I]?

Who has supplied the majority of weapons to the Ukrainians?

[B]The Defense Rests![/B][/QUOTE]I think France support more Ukraine and Palestinians than your old fat stupid Trump who prefer to rob Ukraine, when lying, and to suck Putin. Explain to your so stupid You elected twice: only way to stop war is to economically isolate Russia to make criminal Putin broke. Also to stop to give weapons to criminal Netanhyaou. But wars are always good business for USA, so, when USA can t compete for economics now, but they are interested wars keep on, making dirty money for USA, now land of shame.

Sirioja let stop with making things personal. Trump is the President of the Dis-United States of America. His is not my [I]old fat stupid Trump[/I] any more than the alleged drug user who currently heads up France is yours personally. [B]You got that[/B]?

Would you like to quote a reference that shows that France supports Ukraine more than the Dis-United States of America has?

[B]Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but not their own facts![/B]

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3005037]I think France support more Ukraine and Palestinians than your old fat stupid Trump who prefer to rob Ukraine, when lying, and to suck Putin. Explain to your so stupid You elected twice: only way to stop war is to economically isolate Russia to make criminal Putin broke. Also to stop to give weapons to criminal Netanhyaou. But wars are always good business for USA, so, when USA can t compete for economics now, but they are interested wars keep on, making dirty money for USA, now land of shame.[/QUOTE]

Note the word "Republican" accurately characterizing the economy-destroying legislation proposal?

That is a lovely and encouraging sign that typically and historically pro Repub Mainstream Media are finally coming to realize their constant False Equivalancies and Bothsiderism if not outright attacks on Dems in order to help Repubs win elections is fine for being provided the horrific, alarming and therefore effectively eye-catching and attention-grabbing economic headlines MSM craves and loves about Repub policies and stewardship. But under Trump it has now drifted into a nightmare of shake downs and extortion in their War Against Freedom of Speech resulting in millons going into his and his Party's pockets for reporting the truth about their lies, bullshit and cons.

So it is possible we will finally start seeing accurate reports that, say, Republicans in Congress are in disarray rather than "Congress" is in disarray, thereby unjustifiably punishing Dems by blaming them and Repubs equally for the disasters caused only by Repubs.

"Republican' Donald Trump laid the groundwork for, ushered in and exacerbated his Trump's Pandemic with his typically disastrous Republican economic and national security decisions and stewardship in 2018,2019 and all through 2020. ".

"Republican president GW Bush's incompetent leadership and his incompetent Republican Treasury Department caused the 2008 Financial Crisis. ".

"Republican president Donald Trump and his Republucan Congress skyrocketed the debt, deficit and crime rates on their watch. ".

Note how much more accurate that is vs nonsense like "there is plenty of blame to go around. " Hopefully, the accurate reporting and messaging will eventually sink in with the American Electorate.

This is an encouraging sign for Truth In The Media.

[B]Republican spending bill driving up yields and creating a major market headache.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/21/republican-spending-bill-driving-up-yields-and-creating-a-major-headache.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]The U.S. debt-and-deficit situation is bad and facing real prospects of getting worse. Whether the recoil in financial markets continues is largely in the hands of policymakers.

What its meant in market terms has been a severe leg up in Treasury yields and a sell-off in stocks.

I feel like the dam is finally starting to break a little bit, and theres too many holes in the dike to put our fingers in, said Mitch Goldberg, president of ClientFirst Strategy.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;3003973] Yes, the income tax ended all that? And the Chinese workers and African blacks were better off in their native lands? LOL. The native Americans are a much more complex topic. Of course, I have no idea what they had to do with the income tax either. [/QUOTE][i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i] It wouldn't surprise me, if this was your twisted MAGA belief and equivalent way of saying, that Jews were better off, having gone through the Holocaust and learned valuable job experience in the concentration camps?

[i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i] No idea, no clue...well I suggest you take sometime and do some homework. Either way, it wouldn't surprise me, if indeed you truly have "No idea...", given your cowboy Repub ideology, explains your lack of accurate historical 1913 taxation w/r to those Black, Chinese, Indian and slave labor, indentured workers, and immigrant in relation to taxation of their rich counterparts, to where it stands today with the 99% vs the 1%.

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;3003973] And so because you take your government handouts means you are on the side of the oppressed Chinese and blacks? LOL. Oh yeah, sure you are. [/QUOTE] So much for your bullshit posts, about feeling the hardships that hardworking Americans, are experiencing, not being able to afford dinner at Red Lobster or affordable housing, as the price of eggs and mortgage rates skyrocket, under the your Fuhrer's Tariff Tax, all while funding the tax cuts, for the wealthy billionaire robber baron class 1%.
[list]As Warren Buffett said: [b][i]"The problem isn't that we tax too much, its that [u]we ask too little[/u] from those who benefit the most."[/i][/b][/list]
[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;3003973]Spidy, if you are so fucking opposed to billionaires, shouldn't you be a Republican? [b]Most billionaires are or were Democrats.[/b] I grant you there were a few who jumped ship when the Democrats abandoned Democracy and followed their demented candidate with a drunk, but in 2016, I cannot recall any billionaires who supported Trump. Hell, we had Zuckerburg paying nearly a billion to rig elections.[/QUOTE]Why don't you provide the evidence that, [i]"Most billionaires are or were Democrats.",[/i] instead of pulling bullshit outta your MAGA ass? [i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i]

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;3004675]Meanwhile, we have Spidy going on about billionaire greed. Last I check the biggest holder of Walmart stock was the Walton family made up of several billionaires. So Trump tells Walmart to not screw over consumers and enrich the Walton billionaires, and you are condemning it? We all know that no matter what Trump says or does you are going to condemn it. [b]It is all Dem good, Republican bad. [/b][/QUOTE]

Yeah, meanwhile, Elvis 2008 is still once again complaining about Hardworking Americans, being greedy and wanting the billionaires to pay their fair share in taxes, [b][i]'...from those who benefit the most.' ",[/i][/b] from a fair and just democratic society.

BTW, your Fuhrer's 2.0 admin shit show, as taken your "Dems GOOD, Repubs BAD" mantra, to a whole new level of comparison, that some would say is at [b]DEFCON 1.[/b]

I mean, fuck "BAD", I think Repubs have poll-vaulted, all the way to "down right FUCKING EVIL" [i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i]

[QUOTE=Spidy;3005114]It wouldn't surprise me, if this was your twisted MAGA belief and equivalent way of saying, that Jews were better off, having gone through the Holocaust and learned valuable job experience in the concentration camp[/QUOTE]And it would not surprise me that when the South African president says kill the white man, you go along with it.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3005114]Either way, it wouldn't surprise me, if indeed you truly have "No idea...", given your cowboy Repub ideology, explains your lack of accurate historical 1913 taxation w/r to those Black, Chinese, Indian and slave labor, indentured workers, and immigrant in relation to taxation of their rich counterparts, to where it stands today with the 99% vs the 1%.[/QUOTE]Okay, so you have no idea either.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3005114]So much for your bullshit posts, about feeling the hardships that hardworking Americans, are experiencing, not being able to afford dinner at Red Lobster or affordable housing, as the price of eggs and mortgage rates skyrocket, under the your Fuhrer's Tariff Tax, all while funding the tax cuts, for the wealthy billionaire robber baron class 1%.[/QUOTE]Top 1% are not all billionaires, you dumb Democratic douche.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3005114]As Warren Buffett said: "The problem isn't that we tax too much, its that [u]we ask too little[/u] from those who benefit the most.[/QUOTE]Yeah, you still do not get Buffett's history. This is from Matt Taibbi, the guy who highlighted the greed at Goldman's Sachs, and called GS the squid that sucks its funnel into anything that smells like money.

Warren Buffett announced this month that he will retire from his position as CEO of Berkshire Hathaway, the fabled corporate conglomerate that made him a revered household name, at the end of 2025. Along with a mostly stellar seven-decade investment career, he carefully created an image of a down to earth midwesterner who lives in a modest home, drives a modest car and dines on Dairy Queen (he liked DQ so much he bought the company in 1997) while swigging Coca Cola (another great Berkshire investment) and dispensing sage advise the way your favorite uncle might.

However, my man-crush on Buffett ended in 2008.

One additional trait that many found endearing in Buffett was he could be very candid about his occasional losses and mistakes. He would often use these instances to impart some really great advice. However, the one thing I never heard him discuss was the times he should have lost but got the kind of help regular folks don't get.

Buffett's long-time business partner, Charlie Munger, once said "Suck it in and cope, buddy" in response to complaints that the government did more to help Wall Street than homeowners during the 2000's housing crisis.

The truth is, Buffett, Munger and Berkshire would have had to do a lot of sucking themselves if not for the massive government bailout of the financial system in 2008.

Warren Buffett announced this month that he will retire from his position as CEO of Berkshire Hathaway, the fabled corporate conglomerate that made him a revered household name, at the end of 2025. Along with a mostly stellar seven-decade investment career, he carefully created an image of a down to earth midwesterner who lives in a modest home, drives a modest car and dines on Dairy Queen (he liked DQ so much he bought the company in 1997) while swigging Coca Cola (another great Berkshire investment) and dispensing sage advise the way your favorite uncle might.

I have a six degrees of separation story where I sort of crossed paths with him. In fact, I can say that I played a small part in Buffett's dumping of one of his favorite and most profitable trades, Freddie Mac.

However, my man-crush on Buffett ended in 2008.

One additional trait that many found endearing in Buffett was he could be very candid about his occasional losses and mistakes. He would often use these instances to impart some really great advice. However, the one thing I never heard him discuss was the times he should have lost but got the kind of help regular folks don't get.

Buffett's long-time business partner, Charlie Munger, once said "Suck it in and cope, buddy" in response to complaints that the government did more to help Wall Street than homeowners during the 2000's housing crisis.

The truth is, Buffett, Munger and Berkshire would have had to do a lot of sucking themselves if not for the massive government bailout of the financial system in 2008.

This part of the story started between 2003 and 2004. Berkshire made huge option bets that four major global stock indices the S&P 500, the Nikkei 225, the Euro Stoxx 50 and the FTSE 100 would not end up lower than they were at the time of the trade, 10 or 15 years in the future. Berkshire sold these options to major Wall Street banks and in return, the banks paid Berkshire approximately $4. 9 billion in what are called premiums. If the stock indices ended lower than their current levels, Berkshire would pay the banks the difference and, if necessary, more than the $4.9 billion it was paid.

Normally, companies that sell these types of long-term options have to put up collateral. Berkshire did not. With Buffet at the helm, Berkshire was considered riskless. This was the key to the strategy. Berkshire could use the $4. 9 billion however it wanted without having to tie up any of Berkshire's other assets.

As long as nothing went horribly wrong, this was a genius move. Buffett would just do his usual brilliant investing with the funds and even if the stock indices ended somewhat lower when the deals expired a decade or two later, the money he would have to pay on the options would probably pale in comparison to the money he would have made with those billions in premiums he received.

Again, unless something went horribly wrong.

In 2008, global equity markets finally woke up to the fact that the subprime mortgage crisis was a giant asteroid hurtling straight for the global financial system and began to free-fall.

At first it appeared Buffett saw what was happening as a great opportunity. One of his famous folksy quotes after all was:

"A simple rule dictates my buying: Be fearful when others are greedy, and be greedy when others are fearful."

In September of 2008, with Goldman Sachs taking on water with the rest of their Wall Street brethren, Berkshire invested $5 billion in perpetual preferred stock with Goldman. Berkshire would receive a 10% dividend as well as the right to buy $5 billion of common stock at $115 with a five-year term. On the day of the purchase, September 23,2008, Goldman's stock was at $125.05. Perhaps Buffett believed Goldman was already saved after AIG was bailed out the previous week. As long as Goldman survived, this could be one of the best returns Berkshire ever made.

However, despite the immediate bailout measures taken to save Goldman and the rest, the hits just kept coming with big banks like Citigroup, Bank of America, Wachovia and WaMu (which went into receivership two days later) on the ropes.

On October 10,2008, Goldman Sachs' stock closed at $88.80, down 29% from where Buffett made his Goldman investment just two weeks prior. Moreover, those options Berkshire sold on the four global stock indices, made a few years earlier were going against Berkshire as global stocks cratered.

Everyone needed a bailout, including Berkshire.

Interestingly, a few years after the crisis, CNBC wrote a piece, replete with the customary Andrew Sorkin boot-licking interview.

And October 2008, in the midst of the financial crisis, Berkshire Hathaway CEO Warren Buffett made a late-night phone call to then-Treasury Secretary Henry "Hank" Paulson, with an idea about how the government might be able to turn the economy around.

Paulson was asleep. He'd had a busy night working through various policy ideas with his team to restore confidence in Wall Street.

At the time, Congress had just passed the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act, or the "bailout bill" as it came to be known, and created a $700 billion Troubled Assets Relief Program to purchase assets of failing banks. But these actions were not enough to calm investors.

Once he understood what was going on, Paulson says, he listened as Buffett "laid out an idea which was a germ of what we did."

What he told Paulson, Buffett recalls, is that, "It might make more sense to put more capital in the banks than it would to try and buy these assets."

Perhaps the CNBC piece should have been called How Warren Buffett Saved Himself During the Financial Crisis.

Remember, just a few weeks before Buffett's phone call to Paulson, Buffett had put capital into Goldman and now he was losing his ass. The government putting capital into Goldman and the rest of the major banks, at the time, would save him.

Naturally, in a government bailout led by a former CEO of Goldman Sachs, Hank Paulson, the USA Never exacted the price it should have for saving Goldman and the rest of the major Wall Street banks. In a fair world, the government bailout would have come with major strings attached.

Instead the government, aided by the Federal Reserve, saved the likes of Goldman and Morgan Stanley by giving them federal bank charters, life-saving capital and bailing out AIG. The bailout recipients then profited handsomely in the aftermath due to the Federal Reserve's unprecedented emergency policies such as zero interest rate policy and the massive buying of USA Treasury securities and agency mortgage-backed securities, which the Federal Reserve kept until 2018.

Those bailed out then thanked the government for saving them by giving them back their capital. Incredibly, a Goldman Sachs story on its website says." The firm had neither sought nor expected such an infusion of capital from the Treasury." If you need further proof of how laughable this statement is, check out this email from a Federal Reserve Bank of New York official one day before Goldman was given a bank charter.

Berkshire's large bets on Goldman and the four major global equity indices were also saved and they also ended up richer after the crisis than before.

Meanwhile, the average American was left to "suck it in," cope and reflect on how greedy and silly they had been buying homes they couldn't afford.

Warren Buffett was a brilliant investor and a very wise and interesting man. However, in 2008 the "Oracle of Omaha" moniker did not fit. He was just another guy who didn't quite see just how big the bomb cyclone was that was coming right at him. He and Berkshire escaped financial ruin like all the other plutocrats by relying on Uncle Sam to come to their rescue.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3005114] Why don't you provide the evidence that, "Most billionaires are or were Democrats." instead of pulling bullshit outta your MAGA ass?[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.thenation.com/article/society/democrats-rich-party-obama/[/URL]

Some recent US figures on the distribution of income by party: 65 percent of taxpayer households that earn more than $500,000 per year are now in Democratic districts; 74 percent of the households in Republican districts earn less than $100,00 per year. Add to this what we knew already, namely that the 10 richest congressional districts in the country all have Democratic representatives in Congress. The above numbers incidentally come from the Internal Revenue Service, via Bloomberg, and are likely to be more reliable than if they came from Project Veritas via [URL]theblaze.com[/URL].

[URL]https://www.politifact.com/article/2014/jun/23/do-many-billionaires-support-democratic-party/[/URL]

We cross-checked the Open Secrets list of the top 100 individuals donating to outside spending groups in the current election against the Forbes list of the world's billionaires and found that, as of June 19, there were 22 individuals on the Open Secrets list who were billionaires. Of those 22 billionaires, 13 -- or more than half -- gave predominantly to liberal groups or groups affiliated with the Democratic Party.

And then there is this comical attempt to say the ultra rich billionaire class is evenly split:

[URL]https://theweek.com/politics/us-election-who-the-billionaires-are-backing[/URL]

Musk is the only one who has openly admitted switching parties, and the result has been having you Democratic douches burn up his assets.

The notion that Bezos and Zuckerberg are Republicans is side splittingly funny.

In fact, I would say that in 2020 that all the people on this list (Musk, Bezos, Zuckerberg, Gates, Bloomberg, and Buffett) were all anti-Trump and anti-Republican.

Then there is Bernie Sanders himself, [URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/bernie-sanders-says-quiet-part-out-loud-brutal-backstab-democratic-party[/URL]

"The 70's, 60's, Democrats caught on that you could raise a lot of money from wealthy people," Sanders explained.

"And it gets back to campaign financing and all that stuff. So you got a Democratic establishment now, which is funded by wealthy people. You have consultants who are really way out of touch with reality, who make a whole lot of money in campaigns. And working class is ignored," Sanders said.

He added that Donald Trump succeeded where Democrats fell short because at least he pretended to care about the working class.

But the fact that you keep going on about how Republicans are the party of the billionaires is fucking comical, Spidy. You are in the party of the rich and are just too dumb to know it.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3005194]And it would not surprise me that when the South African president says kill the white man, you go along with it.[/QUOTE]When the the South African President say that? Put up the quote.

[U]He said this in the White House [b](the house that slaves built)[/b][/U]

[QUOTE]South Africa, and its president, denies claims of genocide and harassment.

"I'm not going to be repeating what I've been saying. I would say if there was Afrikaner farmer genocide, I can bet you these three gentlemen would not be here, including my Minister of Agriculture. He would not be with me. So it will take him, President Trump listening to their stories, to their perspectives, that is the answer to your question," Ramaphosa said.

At one point in the meeting, Trump was asked by a reporter, "What would you like President Ramaphosa to do about the situation that we just seen on the screen?"

"I don't know. I don't know," Trump said.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-confronts-south-african-president-video-treatment-white-farmers[/URL]

You are entitled to your own opinions Elvis 2008 but not your own facts.

Remember when you said that it was a dream that USA companies would bring industry back to the USA.

[URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/90-us-companies-plan-reshore-amid-tariffs-allianz-survey-finds[/URL]

Allianz researchers found that roughly 90 percent of USA Companies plan to reshore or switch to domestic suppliers in the wake of the April 2 global tariff announcement. USA Firms ranked among the most likely in the world to pursue domestic sourcing, alongside companies in Italy and Spain.

And many Americans are willing to take on higher prices as a result:

A recent poll of Epoch Times readers shows strong support for Trump's trade reset, with the majority seeing the tariffs as a fair and necessary step to protect USA Industry and bolster the nation's long-term economic independence.

There is a link to the Allianz piece and 80% of companies in the USA are going to abandon using China in their supply chain.

As for why China is going to collapse, it is the same old story. They are just printing up too much money. [URL]https://www.theepochtimes.com/china/chinas-money-supply-surpasses-both-the-us-and-eu-combined-5615055[/URL]

China's latest official figures show that by the end of Feb. , the country's broad money supply (M2) balance reached 299.56 trillion yuan ($42.16 trillion). This figure is higher than the money supply in both the United States and the European Union (EU) combined.

Now, in normal circumstances, you would see a currency collapse given all this money printing but China has a currency peg. [URL]https://www.investopedia.com/articles/forex/030616/why-chinese-yuan-pegged.asp[/URL].

The Chinese yuan has had a currency peg since 1997. It used to peg its currency to the USA Dollar but since 2005 it has managed its currency against a basket of currencies with weightings determined by levels of trading with its foreign partners. The currency is not allowed to float more than 2% against a fixed level.

A lot of people have been critical of Peter Zeihan calling for the collapse of China, but if you notice, they leave this part, probably the most important part, out of his analysis, [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHlrgUdgKP0[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=XupM5_zHDbM[/URL]

In fact, their leaving out that part, the massive money printing, makes me think they are paid Chinese hacks.

So China would normally just be doing a Japan style demographic slowdown if not for this money situation. In fact, it already is.

The slowdown though does not solve the money / debt problem, and Trump is squeezing China when it is most vulnerable. China is going to have even lower foreign currency reserves after what Trump is doing.

And the simplest way to reduce the money supply is to devalue the currency. Argentina did the exact same thing China is going to have to do. They pegged their peso at one to one to the dollar in 2000, but they had a reduction in dollars available to them because their economy was not doing well.

So Argentina took care of its money supply issue temporarily by devaluing the currency. It went from one peso to the dollar to three pesos to the dollar.

This is the part you do not get about the savings rate. When that happened, everyone in Argentina who had savings saw their savings tumble by 2/3, but everyone who had debt saw their debt go down by 2/3. If you had $900,000 in the bank, now you had $300,000. If you had $900,000 in debt, now you have just $300,000 in debt. But that still was not enough to get their house in order.

And make no mistake on who holds the debt in China. Whether it is corporate or at the local debt, it is all held by the CCCP. Sure, China has more wealth than Argentina but it did not print up anywhere near the amount China is doing.

As for Trump, as Democrats are fond of saying, he is no businessman, some of his companies went bankrupt. Yeah, no shit. That means he knows what to look for when things are going badly in a company or country. Most of his life he has sold to the rich. He knows who is wealthy and who is fake.

But yeah, the collapse of the Chinese yuan and Chinese economy is inevitable.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3005197][URL]https://www.thenation.com/article/society/democrats-rich-party-obama/[/URL]

Some recent US figures on the distribution of income by party: 65 percent of taxpayer households that earn more than $500,000 per year are now in Democratic districts; 74 percent of the households in Republican districts earn less than $100,00 per year. Add to this what we knew already, namely that the 10 richest congressional districts in the country all have Democratic representatives in Congress. The above numbers incidentally come from the Internal Revenue Service, via Bloomberg, and are likely to be more reliable than if they came from Project Veritas via [URL]theblaze.com[/URL].

[URL]https://www.politifact.com/article/2014/jun/23/do-many-billionaires-support-democratic-party/[/URL]

We cross-checked the Open Secrets list of the top 100 individuals donating to outside spending groups in the current election against the Forbes list of the world's billionaires and found that, as of June 19, there were 22 individuals on the Open Secrets list who were billionaires. Of those 22 billionaires, 13 -- or more than half -- gave predominantly to liberal groups or groups affiliated with the Democratic Party.

And then there is this comical attempt to say the ultra rich billionaire class is evenly split:

[URL]https://theweek.com/politics/us-election-who-the-billionaires-are-backing[/URL]

Musk is the only one who has openly admitted switching parties, and the result has been having you Democratic douches burn up his assets.

The notion that Bezos and Zuckerberg are Republicans is side splittingly funny.

In fact, I would say that in 2020 that all the people on this list (Musk, Bezos, Zuckerberg, Gates, Bloomberg, and Buffett) were all anti-Trump and anti-Republican.

Then there is Bernie Sanders himself, [URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/bernie-sanders-says-quiet-part-out-loud-brutal-backstab-democratic-party[/URL]

"The 70's, 60's, Democrats caught on that you could raise a lot of money from wealthy people," Sanders explained.

"And it gets back to campaign financing and all that stuff. So you got a Democratic establishment now, which is funded by wealthy people. You have consultants who are really way out of touch with reality, who make a whole lot of money in campaigns. And working class is ignored," Sanders said.

He added that Donald Trump succeeded where Democrats fell short because at least he pretended to care about the working class.

But the fact that you keep going on about how Republicans are the party of the billionaires is fucking comical, Spidy. You are in the party of the rich and are just too dumb to know it.[/QUOTE]2008 was fixed also, Scumbag Bubba rec'd more delegates than Scumbag Barry and the Wall St controlled / DNC handed it to Scumbag Barry.

They calculated they could get more done via the Hope and Change platitude the new "I feel your pain".

And he made sure to crush the 99% movement as soon as the fone rang to do so, like the good house slave that he was.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi61Z4N0I84[/URL]

PURE GOLD at 9:06.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3005212]Remember when you said that it was a dream that USA companies would bring industry back to the USA.

[URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/90-us-companies-plan-reshore-amid-tariffs-allianz-survey-finds[/URL]

Allianz researchers found that roughly 90 percent of USA Companies plan to reshore or switch to domestic suppliers in the wake of the April 2 global tariff announcement. USA Firms ranked among the most likely in the world to pursue domestic sourcing, alongside companies in Italy and Spain.

And many Americans are willing to take on higher prices as a result:

A recent poll of Epoch Times readers shows strong support for Trump's trade reset, with the majority seeing the tariffs as a fair and necessary step to protect USA Industry and bolster the nation's long-term economic independence.

There is a link to the Allianz piece and 80% of companies in the USA are going to abandon using China in their supply chain.

As for why China is going to collapse, it is the same old story. They are just printing up too much money. [URL]https://www.theepochtimes.com/china/chinas-money-supply-surpasses-both-the-us-and-eu-combined-5615055[/URL]

China's latest official figures show that by the end of Feb. , the country's broad money supply (M2) balance reached 299.56 trillion yuan ($42.16 trillion). This figure is higher than the money supply in both the United States and the European Union (EU) combined.

Now, in normal circumstances, you would see a currency collapse given all this money printing but China has a currency peg. [URL]https://www.investopedia.com/articles/forex/030616/why-chinese-yuan-pegged.asp[/URL].

The Chinese yuan has had a currency peg since 1997. It used to peg its currency to the USA Dollar but since 2005 it has managed its currency against a basket of currencies with weightings determined by levels of trading with its foreign partners. The currency is not allowed to float more than 2% against a fixed level.

A lot of people have been critical of Peter Zeihan calling for the collapse of China, but if you notice, they leave this part, probably the most important part, out of his analysis, [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHlrgUdgKP0[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=XupM5_zHDbM[/URL]

In fact, their leaving out that part, the massive money printing, makes me think they are paid Chinese hacks.

So China would normally just be doing a Japan style demographic slowdown if not for this money situation. In fact, it already is.

The slowdown though does not solve the money / debt problem, and Trump is squeezing China when it is most vulnerable. China is going to have even lower foreign currency reserves after what Trump is doing.

And the simplest way to reduce the money supply is to devalue the currency. Argentina did the exact same thing China is going to have to do. They pegged their peso at one to one to the dollar in 2000, but they had a reduction in dollars available to them because their economy was not doing well.

So Argentina took care of its money supply issue temporarily by devaluing the currency. It went from one peso to the dollar to three pesos to the dollar.

This is the part you do not get about the savings rate. When that happened, everyone in Argentina who had savings saw their savings tumble by 2/3, but everyone who had debt saw their debt go down by 2/3. If you had $900,000 in the bank, now you had $300,000. If you had $900,000 in debt, now you have just $300,000 in debt. But that still was not enough to get their house in order.

And make no mistake on who holds the debt in China. Whether it is corporate or at the local debt, it is all held by the CCCP. Sure, China has more wealth than Argentina but it did not print up anywhere near the amount China is doing.

As for Trump, as Democrats are fond of saying, he is no businessman, some of his companies went bankrupt. Yeah, no shit. That means he knows what to look for when things are going badly in a company or country. Most of his life he has sold to the rich. He knows who is wealthy and who is fake.

But yeah, the collapse of the Chinese yuan and Chinese economy is inevitable.[/QUOTE][URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party[/URL]

[URL]https://www.voanews.com/a/foreign-bloggers-help-china-spread-propaganda-analysis-finds/8009973.html[/URL]

[URL]https://demostat.rs/en/vesti/edukacija/beijing-spends-billions-of-dollars-worldwide-spreading-disinformation-and-censorship/1878[/URL]

[URL]https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/05/22/479057698/study-chinas-government-fabricates-about-488-million-social-media-posts-every-ye[/URL]

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/31/world/asia/china-propaganda-travel-influencers.html[/URL]

[URL]https://gking.harvard.edu/files/gking/files/50c.pdf[/URL]

[URL]https://freedomhouse.org/report/special-report/2020/beijings-global-megaphone[/URL]

[URL]https://www.wilsoncenter.org/article/chinas-foreign-propaganda-machine[/URL]

[URL]https://www.osavul.cloud/blog/how-china-uses-media-to-spread-propaganda[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;3005197][URL]https://www.thenation.com/article/society/democrats-rich-party-obama/[/URL]

Some recent US figures ...[URL]theblaze.com[/URL].

[URL]https://www.politifact.com/article/2014/jun/23/do-many-billionaires-support-democratic-party/[/URL]

And then there is this comical attempt to say the ultra rich billionaire class is evenly split: [/QUOTE]

What's hilariously comical, is your article from [b]"2014"[/b] on billionaire donations [i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i]

Yet another failed and feeble attempt to, provide recent FACTS and EVIDENCE to support your woeful and pitiful MAGA arguments. Yet another round of mish mash of incoherent rambling, with the intent to obfuscate the FACTS, with your usual [i][b]"gish gallop"[/b][/i] and "flood the zone" Steve Bannon, crap.

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;3005197][URL]https://theweek.com/politics/us-election-who-the-billionaires-are-backing[/URL]

Musk is the only one who has openly admitted switching parties, ...

The notion that Bezos and Zuckerberg are Republicans is side splittingly funny.

In fact, I would say that in 2020 that all the people on this list (Musk, Bezos, Zuckerberg, Gates, Bloomberg, and Buffett) were all anti-Trump and anti-Republican.[/QUOTE]
For all your bile, weak stupid arguments and "MAGA gish gallop", about "...this billionaire person was once a Dem, so that makes them Dem billionaire donor...", is so far fetch, as most rotten billionaires, only real fealty is to money and which idiot party and politician's pocket can I pick?

But Elvis 2008, given that same logic, you've used on the billionaires, you once told me, that you voted for President Barrack Obama, so...[list][i][b]I guess that makes YOU a Dem D-BAG for LIFE! (...kkkk!)[/b][/i]

• The constant smack you talk and "gish gallop", is a never ending perpetual literal contradiction of yourself and the Dems so love castigate as D-BAGS.
• So what kind of Dem D-BAG (to barrow your phraseology), does that make you?[/list]
[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;3005197]Then there is Bernie Sanders himself, [URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/bernie-sanders-says-quiet-part-out-loud-brutal-backstab-democratic-party[/URL][/QUOTE] When placed in context, it was obviously a good campaign rallying cry for more small money donors. And it worked!

In the 2024 election, 75% of donations came from small money donors for the Dems.

[b][u]FACTS DO MATTER...[/u][/b]

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3005211][b] Elvis 2008 why do you lie so much?[/b]
When the the South African President say that? Put up the quote.

[U]He said this in the White House [b](the house that slaves built)[/b][/U] [URL]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-confronts-south-african-president-video-treatment-white-farmers[/URL]

You are entitled to your own opinions Elvis 2008 but not your own facts.[/QUOTE]
Excellent question and well answered!

You only need to look at the current clown show Repub admin, to realize, the level of corruption, untrustworthy governing, lies, cover-ups and grifting, to know this is what MAGA nation emulates.

But take this current example, as I explain below, as you've identified, Elvis not entitled to his own FACTS:

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;3005197]But the fact that you keep going on about how Republicans are the party of the billionaires is fucking comical, Spidy. You are in the party of the rich and are just too dumb to know it.[/QUOTE][i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i] Is that your assessment, based on your [b]dated FACTS[/b] in your 2014 and other non-related articles? Which BTW, at worst, had both parties as equal donors, back in 2014, as your diatribe of gish gallop, tried to laugh off as [i]"side splittingly funny"![/i]

Although I'm aware the Repubs are a backwater, BACKWARDS looking party (as is evident from your 2014 article), lets look at something more up-to-date, shall we?

[b]Billionaires Buying Elections: They’ve Come to Collect,[/b] April 2, 2025 [URL]https://americansfortaxfairness.org/billionaires-buying-elections-theyve-come-to-collect/[/URL]

[indent]• Billionaire spending heavily favored Republicans. Over two-thirds (70%) of billionaire-family contributions went in support of GOP candidates and conservative causes. Less than a quarter (23%) backed Democratic hopefuls and progressive causes.
• Almost three-quarters (71%) of the total amount used by outside spending groups to attack the Democratic presidential candidate, Kamala Harris, came from billionaires. Billionaires supplied over three-fifths (61%) of all the outside dollars spent praising Donald Trump.
• The vast majority of billionaire money supported Republican candidates. The top 100 billionaire-family donors made 70% ($1.84 billion) of their donations to committees that backed GOP candidates, while 23% ($594 million) went to entities backing Democratic candidates.
• Elon Musk was the largest political spender of the 2024 election cycle, contributing over $278 million to Republican candidates—almost all of it in direct support of Donald Trump’s presidential reelection bid.
• Billionaire family spending on the seven most competitive U.S. Senate races favors Republican candidates over Democratic ones by a 7:1 margin. Billionaire families spent nearly $78 million supporting GOP candidates versus around $11 million spent in support of Democrats. [url]https://americansfortaxfairness.org/billionaires-buying-elections-congressional-races-report/[/url] [/indent]

So now that the 2024 Election billionaire spending results are finalized, and without speculation, by uninformed MAGA pundits, it's CLEAR Repub billionaires, are indeed the corrupting political bastards, we knew them to be.

And don't want to pay their fair share of taxes, like parasites! Don't be FOOLED, and don't let them pick your pockets!

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;3005194] Top 1% are not all billionaires, you dumb Democratic douche. [/QUOTE] Who said it was?

You're level of understanding and comprehension, is just overwhelmingly so freakin' bad? May I suggest you think before speaking next time or hire a full-time interpreter?

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;3005194] However, my man-crush on Buffett ended in 2008. ... [/QUOTE] Who'd have thunk it, from that diatribe of bile? Or was it a blowhard bromance tribute? [i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i]

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3005077]Sirioja let stop with making things personal. Trump is the President of the Dis-United States of America. His is not my [I]old fat stupid Trump[/I] any more than the alleged drug user who currently heads up France is yours personally. [B]You got that[/B]?

Would you like to quote a reference that shows that France supports Ukraine more than the Dis-United States of America has?

[B]Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but not their own facts![/B][/QUOTE]Ask Ukrainians. You mean Macron takes drugs? Never heard of this in France and I much prefer Macron, even not perfect, than a dangerous bullshiting liar like Trump. I can t understand Americans re elected him, unbelievable.

Employing the exact same methods he employed to lay the groundwork for, usher in and exacerbate Trump's Pandemic Part 1, resulting in millions of deaths around the world, including at least one million American deaths, the collapse of Global Supply chains and all of the hyper-inflation and millions upon millions of American jobs wiped out that followed, the school and business closures, the international travel for sex and tourism changed forever and not for the better and on and on, Repub Donald J. Trump is working very hard to bring Trump's Pandemic Part 2 to the world:

[B]Diseases are spreading. The CDC isn't warning the public like it was months ago.
May 21, 2025[/B]

[URL]https://www.npr.org/2025/05/21/nx-s1-5387723/cdc-communications-cuts-social-media-public-health[/URL]

[QUOTE]To accomplish its mission of increasing the health security of the U.S., the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention states that it "conducts critical science and provides health information" to protect the nation. But since President Trump's administration assumed power in January, many of the platforms the CDC used to communicate with the public have gone silent, an NPR analysis found.

Many of the CDC's newsletters have stopped being distributed, workers at the CDC say. Health alerts about disease outbreaks, previously sent to health professionals subscribed to the CDC's Health Alert Network, haven't been dispatched since March. The agency's main social media channels have come under new ownership of the Department of Health and Human Services, emails reviewed by NPR show, and most have gone more than a month without posting their own new content.[/QUOTE]Bear in mind, Repub Donald J. Trump didn't begin to emploly those Trump's Pandemic Part 1 Creation Methods in earnest until 2018, his second year in office after doing exactly nothing but play golf and come up with insulting nicknames for his critics in his first year aside from finally signing and passing his one and only first term economic "stimulus" legislation, the TCJA, on the very last business day of 2017, that added Trillions to the deficit but created a Million FEWER jobs with it than without it.

And then, of course, in 2019 he swung into greater action to create Trump's Pandemic Part 1.

Next, as everyone knows, after he was finally successful in creating Trump's Pandemic Part 1 in early 2020, he spent that entire critical year lying about it, mocking the known mitigation measures, exacerbating the death and economic disaster effects of it and on and on until he eventually handed the incoming Dem Biden-Harris Administration the Worst Economy and Job Losses since Repub Herbert Hoover and the Great Repub Depression to fix.

Still, it took Repub Trump working to create Trump's Pandemic Part 1 for at least 2-3 years of his first term before he and his supporters were inevitably rewarded with those above stated results.

Yes, the Dem Biden-Harris Administration did fix it in truly historic fashion, handing the next incoming Administration the Envy of the World Economy with historically strong economic numbers and conditions.

Lololol.

But THIS time, Repub Donald J. Trump has gotten in there and started employing those now tried and true Trump's Pandemic Part 2 Creation Methods right away, in the very first months of the first year of the 2nd term that 77.3 Million total numbskulls but most especially that relative tiny handful of angry Muslims in the only three swing states that mattered, and by a razor-thin margin, gave him.

So those of you who did not vote for Harris and therefore de facto voted FOR Trump's Pandemic Part 2 along with whatever other historically disastrous Great Trump / Repub Economic Catastrophe he can conjure up will no doubt be rewarded with a doozy of a Trump's Pandemic Part 2 and all of the usual death and economic destruction that goes with it if you will just try to have patience.

Your Repub Donald J. Trump is definitely working on it!

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3005249]They calculated they could get more done via the Hope and Change platitude the new "I feel your pain".

And he made sure to crush the 99% movement as soon as the fone rang to do so, like the good house slave that he was.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi61Z4N0I84[/URL]

PURE GOLD at 9:06.[/QUOTE]Yeah, Obama fooled me on that for damned sure. I was so pissed at the bailout and Obama had this team of economists that really were for putting the people first. As soon as he got in office, he kicked them out and put in the Robert Rubin and Larry Summers types. If you recall, Summers was making $5 million a year working one day a week for some hedge fund and quit that to work in the White House. Gee, I wonder why.

Anyway, Biden is having trouble getting donations for his library, probably because donors think the money will end up in Dr. Jill and Hunter's hands. [URL]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/05/biden-library-hunter-pardon-democrats-threat[/URL].

A buddy of mine told me that Harry Truman did not accept any fees for speaking after he was out of office as he thought that was selling the presidency. He also said, "Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook. "

And for people who want to know why we voted for Trump, part of the reason is that he does not need our money. Trump donated his millions in salary to charity, and yet the Democratic douches AKA the paid Chinese hacks, are still saying he is out for himself, [URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2021/02/27/president-donald-trump-probably-donated-his-entire-16m-salary-back-to-the-us-government--here-are-the-details/[/URL].

So the real reason Trump is so hated is that he cannot be bought.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3005391]Yeah, Obama fooled me on that for damned sure. I was so pissed at the bailout and Obama had this team of economists that really were for putting the people first. As soon as he got in office, he kicked them out and put in the Robert Rubin and Larry Summers types. If you recall, Summers was making $5 million a year working one day a week for some hedge fund and quit that to work in the White House. Gee, I wonder why.

Anyway, Biden is having trouble getting donations for his library, probably because donors think the money will end up in Dr. Jill and Hunter's hands. [URL]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/05/biden-library-hunter-pardon-democrats-threat[/URL].

A buddy of mine told me that Harry Truman did not accept any fees for speaking after he was out of office as he thought that was selling the presidency. He also said, "Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook. "

And for people who want to know why we voted for Trump, part of the reason is that he does not need our money. Trump donated his millions in salary to charity, and yet the Democratic douches AKA the paid Chinese hacks, are still saying he is out for himself, [URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2021/02/27/president-donald-trump-probably-donated-his-entire-16m-salary-back-to-the-us-government--here-are-the-details/[/URL].

So the real reason Trump is so hated is that he cannot be bought.[/QUOTE]The Scumbag Pelosi Scumbag Bidens Scumbag Clintons Scumbag Bush and Scumbag Obamas.

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/18/opinion/trump-politics-corruption.html[/URL]

This is hardly the first time foreign dictatorships have funded American politicians' pet projects in the hopes of currying favor. It was not long ago that the most popular nexus between foreign regimes and American political leaders was the Clinton Foundation. For years, it accepted millions of dollars linked to some of the most rapacious regimes extant, including those of Saudi Arabia and Qatar, in addition to a number of Russian, Kazakh and other oligarchs.

Could these regimes have been interested in the "simple belief that everyone deserves a chance to succeed," as the Clinton Foundation pledged? Sure, theoretically. But that hardly explains why, by the early 2020's — when Hillary Clinton was no longer near the center of American politics — donations to the foundation cratered, falling some 90 percent from their highs when she was a secretary of state and a perennial presidential candidate. As Sarah Chayes, one of the United States' leading anticorruption researchers, wrote in 2020, the Clinton Foundation was hardly an anodyne nonprofit but instead resembled "the USA Versions of the 'charities' run by corrupt ruling families from Honduras to Uzbekistan. ".

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3005391]Yeah, Obama fooled me on that for damned sure. I was so pissed at the bailout and Obama had this team of economists that really were for putting the people first. As soon as he got in office, he kicked them out and put in the Robert Rubin and Larry Summers types. If you recall, Summers was making $5 million a year working one day a week for some hedge fund and quit that to work in the White House. Gee, I wonder why.

Anyway, Biden is having trouble getting donations for his library, probably because donors think the money will end up in Dr. Jill and Hunter's hands. [URL]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/05/biden-library-hunter-pardon-democrats-threat[/URL].

A buddy of mine told me that Harry Truman did not accept any fees for speaking after he was out of office as he thought that was selling the presidency. He also said, "Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook. "

And for people who want to know why we voted for Trump, part of the reason is that he does not need our money. Trump donated his millions in salary to charity, and yet the Democratic douches AKA the paid Chinese hacks, are still saying he is out for himself, [URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2021/02/27/president-donald-trump-probably-donated-his-entire-16m-salary-back-to-the-us-government--here-are-the-details/[/URL].

So the real reason Trump is so hated is that he cannot be bought.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doW7FhNs_Co[/URL]

Yes Trump can't be bought which is why they tried to fraudulently impeach him 2 x ,93 kangaroo court felonies tried to fraudulently bankrupt his businesses.

And even tried to fucking kill him 2 x.

Scumbag Bubba was born in a shack to a single mother in the hills of Arkansas, broke as a homeless bum.

How cheap and easy was it to buy him.

Scumbag Biden too.

Scumbag Barry too.

Scumbag Bush too.

Scumbag Bernie too.

Wall St loves poor Dem politicians they are like $2 PUTAS standing on a corner waiting for a john.

The oligarchs declared Our Lord and Savior was a "traitor to his class" in 2015.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3005391]Yeah, Obama fooled me on that for damned sure. I was so pissed at the bailout and Obama had this team of economists that really were for putting the people first. As soon as he got in office, he kicked them out and put in the Robert Rubin and Larry Summers types. If you recall, Summers was making $5 million a year working one day a week for some hedge fund and quit that to work in the White House. Gee, I wonder why.

Anyway, Biden is having trouble getting donations for his library, probably because donors think the money will end up in Dr. Jill and Hunter's hands. [URL]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/05/biden-library-hunter-pardon-democrats-threat[/URL].

A buddy of mine told me that Harry Truman did not accept any fees for speaking after he was out of office as he thought that was selling the presidency. He also said, "Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook. "

And for people who want to know why we voted for Trump, part of the reason is that he does not need our money. Trump donated his millions in salary to charity, and yet the Democratic douches AKA the paid Chinese hacks, are still saying he is out for himself, [URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2021/02/27/president-donald-trump-probably-donated-his-entire-16m-salary-back-to-the-us-government--here-are-the-details/[/URL].

So the real reason Trump is so hated is that he cannot be bought.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2025/05/23/boston-illegal-alien-charged-voting-fleecing-taxpayers-400-thousand-in-benefits/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_term=daily&utm_campaign=20250523[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=10156046834215725[/URL]

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/22/us/venezuelan-man-identity-fraud-ohio.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2025/04/25/obama-backed-chinese-factory-in-ohio-imported-illegal-chinese-workforce/[/URL]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3005324]Employing the exact same methods he employed to lay the groundwork for, usher in and exacerbate Trump's Pandemic Part 1, resulting in millions of deaths around the world, including at least one million American deaths, the collapse of Global Supply chains and all of the hyper-inflation and millions upon millions of American jobs wiped out that followed, the school and business closures, the international travel for sex and tourism changed forever and not for the better and on and on, Repub Donald J. Trump is working very hard to bring Trump's Pandemic Part 2 to the world:

[B]Diseases are spreading. The CDC isn't warning the public like it was months ago.
May 21, 2025[/B]

[URL]https://www.npr.org/2025/05/21/nx-s1-5387723/cdc-communications-cuts-social-media-public-health[/URL]

Bear in mind, Repub Donald J. Trump didn't begin to emploly those Trump's Pandemic Part 1 Creation Methods in earnest until 2018, his second year in office after doing exactly nothing but play golf and come up with insulting nicknames for his critics in his first year aside from finally signing and passing his one and only first term economic "stimulus" legislation, the TCJA, on the very last business day of 2017, that added Trillions to the deficit but created a Million FEWER jobs with it than without it.

And then, of course, in 2019 he swung into greater action to create Trump's Pandemic Part 1.

Next, as everyone knows, after he was finally successful in creating Trump's Pandemic Part 1 in early 2020, he spent that entire critical year lying about it, mocking the known mitigation measures, exacerbating the death and economic disaster effects of it and on and on until he eventually handed the incoming Dem Biden-Harris Administration the Worst Economy and Job Losses since Repub Herbert Hoover and the Great Repub Depression to fix.

Still, it took Repub Trump working to create Trump's Pandemic Part 1 for at least 2-3 years of his first term before he and his supporters were inevitably rewarded with those above stated results.

Yes, the Dem Biden-Harris Administration did fix it in truly historic fashion, handing the next incoming Administration the Envy of the World Economy with historically strong economic numbers and conditions.

Lololol.

But THIS time, Repub Donald J. Trump has gotten in there and started employing those now tried and true Trump's Pandemic Part 2 Creation Methods right away, in the very first months of the first year of the 2nd term that 77.3 Million total numbskulls but most especially that relative tiny handful of angry Muslims in the only three swing states that mattered, and by a razor-thin margin, gave him.

So those of you who did not vote for Harris and therefore de facto voted FOR Trump's Pandemic Part 2 along with whatever other historically disastrous Great Trump / Repub Economic Catastrophe he can conjure up will no doubt be rewarded with a doozy of a Trump's Pandemic Part 2 and all of the usual death and economic destruction that goes with it if you will just try to have patience.

Your Repub Donald J. Trump is definitely working on it![/QUOTE]He's almost 80 I'm in my 50's and it happens.

But the more obvious point of responding is he most certainly didn't lose the election.

The Oligarchy installed Dirtbag Joe as they did Scumbag Barry and oh boy do they regret it now LMFAO.

Scumbag Barry gave us Our Lord and Savior in 2016 and Scumbag Joe handed it right back to him in 2024 Thanks Scumbag Joe! LMFAO.

Is that the best the Dirtbag left has for 44 more months? Childish memes? Ok so be it LMFAO.

Is that your idea of 3rd world therapy? LMFAO.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3005391]Yeah, Obama fooled me on that for damned sure. I was so pissed at the bailout and Obama had this team of economists that really were for putting the people first. As soon as he got in office, he kicked them out and put in the Robert Rubin and Larry Summers types. If you recall, Summers was making $5 million a year working one day a week for some hedge fund and quit that to work in the White House. Gee, I wonder why.

Anyway, Biden is having trouble getting donations for his library, probably because donors think the money will end up in Dr. Jill and Hunter's hands. [URL]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/05/biden-library-hunter-pardon-democrats-threat[/URL].

A buddy of mine told me that Harry Truman did not accept any fees for speaking after he was out of office as he thought that was selling the presidency. He also said, "Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook. "

[B]And for people who want to know why we voted for Trump, part of the reason is that he does not need our money. Trump donated his millions in salary to charity, and yet the Democratic douches AKA the paid Chinese hacks, are still saying he is out for himself,[/b] [URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2021/02/27/president-donald-trump-probably-donated-his-entire-16m-salary-back-to-the-us-government--here-are-the-details/[/URL].

[B]So the real reason Trump is so hated is that he cannot be bought.[/b][/QUOTE]Just when I think at least one MAGA has figured out Trump is in this exclusively for the grift in order to enrich himself, his family and his close circle of cronies, preferably at the great expense of everyone else, and all of them can't be so stupid not to have noticed, the above idiocy from Elvis pops up again. Lolol.

Dude. Seriously. LOL. The man is actually laughing right into your face as publicly as he can for falling for his con:

[B]Trump Thinks It Was Stupid Not to Cash in Harder on His First Term. Hes Making Up for It.
May 22, 2025[/B]

[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-thinks-stupid-not-cash-130000574.html[/URL]

[QUOTE]President Donald Trump is hosting a dinner for top holders of his $TRUMP meme coin, who collectively accumulated about $150 million of the crypto asset, driving up its price and benefiting his family business.

Trump has privately expressed regret for not maximizing his personal wealth during his previous term in office, and continues to blur the line between public service and private gain, accepting gifts like a proposed $400 million 747 jumbo jet from the government of Qatar.

The Trump administration, under Trump's executive orders, has weakened anti-corruption safeguards, including pausing enforcement of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act and halting criminal prosecutions for violations of the Foreign Agents Registration Act, allowing for open profiteering based on public office.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Spidy;3005275]
When placed in context, it was obviously a good campaign rallying cry for more small money donors. And it worked!

In the 2024 election, 75% of donations came from small money donors for the Dems.[/QUOTE]If you think Kamala got $1 billion in donations from small donors, I have a bridge to sell you.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3005275]FACTS DO MATTER.[/QUOTE]Please tell me how "it worked" in 2024 when your dumb Democratic douche lost? How about this fact? You were dead wrong about who was going to win. And, Spidy, Mr. CCP liar, is telling the biggest lie of all: I am Mr. Facts. What a joke! The same douche telling me how wonderful the air is in China is lecturing me on facts. LOL.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3005275]Excellent question and well answered!

You only need to look at the current clown show Repub admin, to realize, the level of corruption, untrustworthy governing, lies, cover-ups and grifting, to know this is what MAGA nation emulates.[/QUOTE]And what clown show is that? The South African president says kill the boar (the white man), and Democratic douches just like you who are in favor of killing Trump are cheering that on. And why? Because black slaves built the White House? Hey douche, how about African blacks enslaving one another? How about all the whites enslaved in Biblical times? And more importantly, why do you give a fuck about any of that which happened in the past?

Am I supposed to care about the racism in the past? I did not endorse that, but I am supposed to pay for that because of my skin color? LOL.

But if some leader is currently killing his citizens, I want to make sure our leaders do not support that. Oh wait, because it is black people killing white people, I should not be allowed to have an opinion. And why is that? Because of my skin color?

So just admit the truth, Mr. Facts, Mr. Democratic douche. You do not give a fuck about the history of slavery. All you care is about is pretending to be on the black person's side today by beating up other white men so they vote Democrat, and your checks keep flowing. So you are not just a traitor to your sex, you are a traitor to your race, the human race.

Of course, as everyone knows, this is nothing new for the Repub Party. That has been the Party of, by and for the Elite and Oligarchs for at least 100 years.

Which is why Donald Trump chose the Repub Party to launch and establish his political career of conning numbskull Repub voters into sending him money for creating legislation against their own interests while being Bought, Bought and Bought some more by the highest bidders among any domestic or foreign Oligarchs out there.

[B]House Republican tax bill favors the rich how much they stand to gain, and why[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/23/house-republican-big-beautiful-tax-bill-favors-the-rich.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]A tax and spending package passed Thursday by House Republicans funnels the bulk of its financial benefits to wealthy households, according to economists and tax experts.

The rich benefit via a slew of tax cuts tied to businesses, the SALT deduction, the estate tax, income tax rates and opportunity zones.

Lower earners would be worse off, on average, due to cuts to programs such as Medicaid and SNAP, formerly known as food stamps, analyses show.[/QUOTE]

Someone is reading my posts even though they have me on ignore.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3005448]The South African president says kill the boar (the white man)[/QUOTE]The South African President did not say: [I]kill white people[/I]. You know it. That is why you have never put up a link.

[B]Friends of yours Elvis?[/B]

[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-55937133[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3005448]Am I supposed to care about the racism in the past? I did not endorse that, but I am supposed to pay for that because of my skin color? LOL.[/QUOTE]But you shouldn't get tax cuts for your skin color either!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3005448]But if some leader is currently killing his citizens, I want to make sure our leaders do not support that.[/QUOTE][B]You sure about that Elvis 2008?[/B] But it is ok for USGOV to support Israel?

[QUOTE]Oh wait, because it is white people killing brown people, I should not be allowed to have an opinion.[/QUOTE]We are all allowed to have our own opinions. I would expect nothing less from a Republican (truthful adjective redacted). You are not allowed your own facts.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3005448]So you are not just a traitor to your sex, you are a traitor to your race, the human race.[/QUOTE]The same race that allowed this:

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3001814]Nope, sorry, the US Constitution is for Americans not people who come to our country illegally and commit crimes, and when we were founded as a nation, [b]we had slaves and only land owners could vote[/b]. Before an income tax and women could vote, the USA was the #1 economy in the world.[/QUOTE]I don't care about Fentanyl. My fellow Americans affected do not look like me. I could care less. The problem should be handled in the same way the [I]CRACK[/I] epidemic was handled: Long Ass Prison Sentences! Deportation to El Salvador.

[B]ROTFLMAO![/B]

[U]A pension is earned. Social Security is earned[/U]

End the Social Security program. Right now! Won't bother me none one bit. I don't collect from the program. Elvis 2008 are you and your Colombian prostitutes benefiting directly from the tax cuts in the [I]The Enormous Welfare for the Rich Bill[/I].

[URL]https://youtu.be/SZ8psP4S6BQ?si=veP0U-JmqpaDPwMt[/URL]

[QUOTE][b]And if he signs me then I'll be a law, least I hope pray that I will but today I am still just a bill.[/b][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3005448]If you think Kamala got $1 billion in donations from small donors, I have a bridge to sell you.

Please tell me how "it worked" in 2024 when your dumb Democratic douche lost? How about this fact? You were dead wrong about who was going to win. And, Spidy, Mr. CCP liar, is telling the biggest lie of all: I am Mr. Facts. What a joke! The same douche telling me how wonderful the air is in China is lecturing me on facts. LOL.

And what clown show is that? The South African president says kill the boar (the white man), and Democratic douches just like you who are in favor of killing Trump are cheering that on. And why? Because black slaves built the White House? Hey douche, how about African blacks enslaving one another? How about all the whites enslaved in Biblical times? And more importantly, why do you give a fuck about any of that which happened in the past?

Am I supposed to care about the racism in the past? I did not endorse that, but I am supposed to pay for that because of my skin color? LOL.

But if some leader is currently killing his citizens, I want to make sure our leaders do not support that. Oh wait, because it is black people killing white people, I should not be allowed to have an opinion. And why is that? Because of my skin color?

So just admit the truth, Mr. Facts, Mr. Democratic douche. You do not give a fuck about the history of slavery. All you care is about is pretending to be on the black person's side today by beating up other white men so they vote Democrat, and your checks keep flowing. So you are not just a traitor to your sex, you are a traitor to your race, the human race.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/09/us/politics/future-forward-harris-democrats.html[/URL]

Yes they are traitors to their skin color, traitors to their sex and traitors to their country.

This movement by the Elephant DMFs to make America (insert color of your choice) again is starting to irritate me just a bit.

[QUOTE]Nope, sorry, the US Constitution is for Americans not people who come to our country illegally and commit crimes, and when we were founded as a nation, we had slaves and only land owners could vote. Before an income tax and women could vote, the USA was the #1 economy in the world.[/QUOTE]Led by individuals such as these and others there is this drive to return to the glory days of (insert color of your choice) supremacy in the Dis-United States of America.

[B]Wife of a Army Officer detained and deported[/B]

What the fuck?

Mother fucking [B]American Jackboots[/B] [I]defending[/I] boarders getting out of control.

This current sitting member of the [U]Elephant DMF[/U] Party needs to be challenge in the next midterm election primary and defeated.

[U]USGOV Immigration Jackbooted Thugs[/U]

Still at it!

[URL]https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ximena-arias-cristobal-released-ice-mtg_n_68322292e4b0f2b0b14827f8[/URL]

Her statements in quoted in this article indicate to me that [U]Elephant DMF[/U] Party (along with the posters that support them) do not have the intellectual strength that we need in the Dis-United States of America to vote and run government.

The current immigration policy is designed to make the Dis-United States of America (insert skin color of Elvis 2008 here) again. This is because individuals that are (insert color here) are being Passport Boys. Flying to Latin America and other places in the world. Looking for girls that are willing to spread their legs and have their babies. These other girls do this because they want the chance for better life in the Dis-United States of America.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3005036]You mean the guy bringing up racism in America who lives in Thailand on a Colombian hooker board?[/QUOTE]I don't live in Thailand.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3005036]You would think a guy who is getting a government pension and social security checks that are covered by working people like me and you who is banging his ugly hookers day and night and just bought a 100 inch TV would be grateful to his home country and the people covering his lifestyle, but you would be wrong.[/QUOTE]What should I be grateful for? I earned my pension and I don't get social security checks. I created a flow, stacked it, invested it well. That is what allows me to maintain multiple homes in multiple counties Elvis 2008. [B]Don't you ever forget it again and imply that I am a parasite[/B]. Just goes to show how when you see your fellow American that does not look like you, it causes you to have an apoplectic fit and start hating. It really triggers you that I can fly all over the world just like you run back and forth to Colombia to pay your hos with the tax breaks and (insert color) privilege you get in the Dis-United States of America.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3005036]No, you see he worked 10 X harder than white people. [/QUOTE]Damn straight I did. The (insert color here) get benefits just by the color of their skin and where their mother squatted and pushed them out of their vagina.

[B]America! What a Country?[/B]

A member of the uniformed death squads known as [B]POLICE[/B] is in the Dis-United States of America pulled of a college student by accident for a traffic violation and took her to jail. Arrested for a traffic violation by accident. Footage taken by the patrol car show that the Officer pulled over the WRONG vehicle.

She is now facing a removal hearing. This is what the [U]Elephant DMF[/U] Party stands for.

[U]Elon Musk said:[/U]

[I]The fundamental weakness of western civilization is empathy, the empathy exploit. Theyre exploiting a bug in western civilization which is the empathy response[/I]

So why don't we just let the South Africans that are claiming they are in danger die where they are? Why is it ok to show [I]empathy[/I] to individuals who have a certain skin color and not to the individuals who have a different skin color?

[B]I challenge the [U]Elephant DMF[/U] Party supporters up in dis ***** to debate this policy issue with me[/B]

[QUOTE=Spidy;3004205]Absolutely Correct!

Don't forget, these would be the same MAGA/Repubs knuckleheads, that thought their American Fuhrer, wouldn't be stupid enough to touch Medicaid, Medicare and Social Security. It's not the first time or the last, these suckers have voted or acted against their best interest and then regretted it.

Time and time again, they have been duped, hoodwinked and suckered into thinking the Fuhrer, had nothing to do with evils and authoritarian fascist right-wing policies outlined in Project 2025.

[b]Mom rips clueless GOP lawmaker who asked 12-year-old girl about pornography[/b], April 19, 2025
[url]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14627203/pennsylvania-state-senator-porn-question-sixth-grade-girl.html[/url]

This clueless Repub/GOP Senator from Pennsylvania, is about as clueless as those here, that think because their American Fuhrer sleeps with hookers, prostitutes and porn-stars, won't adopt yet another one of his many hypocritical [b][i]"Law and Order for Thee, Not for Me"[/b][/i] policies.

Where naturally MAGA sycophants are exempt from the law and rule of law, providing of course, they bend the knee, grovel enough, pay ($$$$) enough, or simply willing to commit heinous crimes in his name, like Jan 6th![/QUOTE][URL]https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/05/25/us/politics/trump-politics-democrats.html[/URL]

AOC / Harris 2028 Please God Please! Lolololololololololol.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3005445]Just when I think at least one MAGA has figured out Trump is in this exclusively for the grift in order to enrich himself, his family and his close circle of cronies, preferably at the great expense of everyone else, and all of them can't be so stupid not to have noticed, the above idiocy from Elvis pops up again. Lolol.

Dude. Seriously. LOL. The man is actually laughing right into your face as publicly as he can for falling for his con:

[B]Trump Thinks It Was Stupid Not to Cash in Harder on His First Term. Hes Making Up for It.
May 22, 2025[/B]

[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-thinks-stupid-not-cash-130000574.html[/URL][/QUOTE]That is why your links are worthless. All they are is more of your lies.

From your link: President Donald Trump will host a gathering of VIPs today at his private golf resort outside Washington, the. See. These are not diplomats or heads of state. They are rich people, foreign and domestic, who have put money into the Trump family's pockets.

The dinner is for winners of a contest the crypto traders who raced to become the top 220 holders of the president's $TRUMP meme coin. According to one analysis, they collectively accumulated about $150 million of the crypto asset, which has no intrinsic value and is equivalent to a digital baseball card.

So what? How is that ripping off taxpayers?

It gets worse.

What Yahoo said:

"The situation should be revolting to anybody who cares about the American interest," says Norm Eisen, a good-government champion who now directs the Democracy Defenders Fund. "It's damaging to the country. When people give you a $400 million plane, or a $2 billion investment, or buy your meme coins in large amounts to have dinner with you and visit the White House they expect something in return. ".

What actually happened:

Trump made only a brief appearance, Pinto said. "he didn't talk to any of the 220 guests maybe the top 25," he said.

All in, the president was there for 23 minutes, Pinto said. Trump delivered a brief address rehashing old crypto talking points then left on a helicopter before taking any questions or pictures with his meme coin contest winners, he said.

"The president is attending it in his personal time. It is not a White House dinner," press secretary Karoline Leavitt told reporters when pressed on attendee transparency.

A Bloomberg News analysis found that all but six of the top 25 wallets used foreign exchanges, ostensibly off-limits to USA Users. More than half of the top 220 wallets were linked to similar offshore platforms.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/[/URL]$Trump.

Less than a day later, the aggregate market value of all coins was more than $27 billion, valuing Trump's holdings at more than $20 billion.

A disclaimer said that the coin was "not intended to be, or the subject of" an investment opportunity or a security and was "not political and has nothing to do with" any political campaign, political office or government agency.

So instead of being like blood thirsty Dems dying to be bribed by crypto billionaire and now criminal Sam Bankman-Fried, Trump sets up a crypto venture that he admits has no intrinsic value and people bid it up to $20+ billion. That is a lot better than being financed by a crook like Democrats do. SBF was the #2 donor to Democrats.

Yes, it is an ethical violation because you dumb Democratic douches did not think of it first. The whole notion of "buying influence" was a total lie.

Trump putting his names on goods and inflating their prices is what he has done his whole business life. That is what most corporations do.

As for the plane, that is a gift from Qatar to the USA not to Trump himself. While taxpayers have been paying billions for a new Air Force One and Boeing, which may be the worst run business in the USA, has been dicking around. Qatar kindly offered to donate a plane, to the USA taxpayer not Trump, and Trump said yes. The USA AG has already approved of the transaction.

And Yahoo lies about this:

Trump says such things often enough that he can't help himself from repeating some of it in public, including recently about the proposed gift of a $400 million 747 jumbo jet "sky palace" from the government of a Gulf emirate. "I think it's a great gesture from Qatar; I appreciate it very much. I would never be one to turn down that kind of an offer," the president told the press at the White House in mid-May. "I mean, I could be a stupid person saying, 'No, we don't want a free, very expensive airplane. '" (As Rolling Stone previously reported, Trump often does not distinguish between what's his and what belongs to the people or its government, including when it comes to this plane which he privately refers to as "one of my" new airplanes.).

This is so stupid. There is a movie called Air Force One and the most famous line in it is the president saying, "Get off my plane!" This is just more lies. This is a gift to the USA. Are you Democratic douches saying that we should give the Statue of Liberty back as it was a gift from France?

And there is more from Yahoo. On Monday, Reuters reported that the Trump Organization and a local partner are considering building a skyscraper in Vietnam, after the country approved the Trump family empire's plans for a $1. 5 billion luxury residential development and golf club. Eric Trump attended the golf club's groundbreaking ceremony on Wednesday with Vietnam's prime minister. Vietnam is simultaneously working to negotiate a tariff deal with the Trump administration.

So what? Has Vietnam gotten a better tariff deal than other Asian countries? Well, uh, no Elvis, but they might.

More from Yahoo: The public knows about the arrangement between Bondi and Qatar because of disclosures required by the Foreign Agents Registration Act, or FARA a law meant to shine a light on foreign influence and propaganda campaigns inside the USA The Trump administration, on Bondi's first day, also ordered a halt to criminal prosecutions for violations of FARA.

Uh, yeah, we know all about this because Republicans were prosecuted by this law that was never / rarely used before. In fact, given how much the Bidens got from China and Ukraine, we Republicans were screaming as to why Joe and Hunter were not prosecuted under this law. In the end the reason for not prosecuting was Joe was too senile and Hunter got a pardon.

Oh yeah, I forgot. You Dems are the "rule of law" party.

So let's put a pin in this. Trump cannot be bribed because he makes his own money. You Democratic douches cannot and when Trump does make his own money, you douches scream "ethical violations".

I would much rather a president do this than have his hand out the whole time begging for $ like most pols do and selling influence. The funny part is that Trump has raked in billions on Truth Social and now with this meme coin. The irony is that you dumb douches thinking Qatar giving the USA a $400 million plane is "bribing" Trump. I do not think you could buy influence with Trump for $400 million.

All you have shown is Trump is making so much money that it would cost someone tens of billions to bribe him. In comparison, the Chinese bought off the Bidens with a few million.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3005720]That is why your links are worthless. All they are is more of your lies.

From your link: President Donald Trump will host a gathering of VIPs today at his private golf resort outside Washington, the. See. These are not diplomats or heads of state. They are rich people, foreign and domestic, who have put money into the Trump family's pockets.

The dinner is for winners of a contest the crypto traders who raced to become the top 220 holders of the president's $TRUMP meme coin. According to one analysis, they collectively accumulated about $150 million of the crypto asset, which has no intrinsic value and is equivalent to a digital baseball card.

So what? How is that ripping off taxpayers?

It gets worse.

What Yahoo said:

"The situation should be revolting to anybody who cares about the American interest," says Norm Eisen, a good-government champion who now directs the Democracy Defenders Fund. "It's damaging to the country. When people give you a $400 million plane, or a $2 billion investment, or buy your meme coins in large amounts to have dinner with you and visit the White House they expect something in return. ".

What actually happened:

Trump made only a brief appearance, Pinto said. "he didn't talk to any of the 220 guests maybe the top 25," he said.

All in, the president was there for 23 minutes, Pinto said. Trump delivered a brief address rehashing old crypto talking points then left on a helicopter before taking any questions or pictures with his meme coin contest winners, he said.

"The president is attending it in his personal time. It is not a White House dinner," press secretary Karoline Leavitt told reporters when pressed on attendee transparency.

A Bloomberg News analysis found that all but six of the top 25 wallets used foreign exchanges, ostensibly off-limits to USA Users. More than half of the top 220 wallets were linked to similar offshore platforms.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/[/URL]$Trump.

Less than a day later, the aggregate market value of all coins was more than $27 billion, valuing Trump's holdings at more than $20 billion.

A disclaimer said that the coin was "not intended to be, or the subject of" an investment opportunity or a security and was "not political and has nothing to do with" any political campaign, political office or government agency.

So instead of being like blood thirsty Dems dying to be bribed by crypto billionaire and now criminal Sam Bankman-Fried, Trump sets up a crypto venture that he admits has no intrinsic value and people bid it up to $20+ billion. That is a lot better than being financed by a crook like Democrats do. SBF was the #2 donor to Democrats..[/QUOTE]Trump took an Oath or in his case a Lie of Office to be President of the United States of America 24/7, 365 days per year for 4 full years.

The job for which he "generously" and only supposedly gave up $1. 6 Million in exchange for the American tax-payers to pay for his weekly golf excursions to rescue his failed golf resorts for much, much more than $1. 6 Millon and to con and grift Hundreds of Millions of Dollars in foreign and domestic bribes does not begin at 12 Noon when he "clocks in" and end at 4 pm when he "clocks out."

Therefore, any hours he spends hosting Pay Masters who are competing to out bribe everyone else in their headlong rush to buy that America-hating fucker is an hour that he has further ripped off America.

My god. Trump is such a cognitively impaired embarrassment, he is too stupid to figure out that in his desperate plea to be taken for anything but the pathetic loser he is, he just called every cadet at that West Point ceremony a "nobody. ".

Making the rounds on FB:

[QUOTE]Trumps West Point speech was packed with the kind of lunacy our mainstream media has tried to normalize for a decade but it sure doesnt seem normal to me. In front of a crowd of cadets who had signed up to serve while Biden was president, Trump declared, Just about a year ago, it was a big story, front page of every paper all over the world, that nobody wanted to enlist in our military, completely ignoring the fact that just about every graduate in the room had done exactly that. He veered off into unrelated boasts, at one point claiming, I rebuilt the military. We rebuilt it like nobody has ever rebuilt it before in my first term, and even managed to squeeze in, It gives us the right to do what we want to do, making the event sound more like a campaign rally than a graduation.

The speech only got stranger as Trump wandered onto subjects like yachts, trophy wives, and even took time to attack celebrities, calling George Clooney a fake movie actor. He also boasted, Sorry losers and haters, but my I.Q. is one of the highest and you all know it! Please dont feel so stupid or insecure, its not your fault. His tendency to make everything about himself was on full display, and he only shook hands with a few select cadets, leaving most graduates unacknowledged.

In sharp contrast, Bidens West Point address was uplifting, inclusive, and centered on the graduates and their future service. He told the cadets, Youre about to become full-time members of the most honorable and the most consequential fighting force in the history of the world, thats not hyperbole, of the world. Thats the truth. Biden highlighted their diverse backgrounds and achievements, saying, You make our entire nation proud, and thats not hyperbole. You do. He reminded them to hold fast to your values you learned here at West Point: duty, honor, country, and emphasized, Were the only country in the world founded on an idea, not figuratively, literally. And the idea is were all created equal, deserve to be treated equally throughout our lives.

Most tellingly, Biden stood for over an hour, shaking the hand of every single graduate, making a point to honor each cadet personally. His speech was a celebration of service, unity, and American ideals, leaving the class inspired and seen, a far cry from Trumps self-congratulatory, grievance-filled performance. What an embarrassment that man is to our country.[/QUOTE]

Rumor has it that Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and Bill Clinton will soon issue a joint statement that:

"This is just terrible. Terrible. It shouldn't have happened. And it wouldn't have happened on My / Our watch! Really. This terrible thing never would have happened if I / We had been President! I / We can tell you that"!

Apparently, this is only happening because Putin senses [I]weakness[/I] in Donald Trump.

[B]Russia hits Ukraine with the largest drone and missile attack of the war so far[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/25/russia-hits-ukraine-with-largest-drone-missile-attack-of-war-so-far.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]A massive Russian drone-and-missile attack targeted the Ukrainian capital, Kyiv, and other regions in the country for a second consecutive night.

For Kyiv, the day was particularly somber as the city observes Kyiv Day, a national holiday.

These were deliberate strikes on ordinary cities. Ordinary residential buildings were destroyed and damaged, Zelenskyy said.[/QUOTE]I guess Trump has been too busy golfing at his failed golf resorts and forcing American tax-payers to pay for it to make that simple phone call and say the magic Trump words to "stop that war within 24 hours, I can tell you that!

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3005744]Trump took an Oath or in his case a Lie of Office to be President of the United States of America 24/7, 365 days per year for 4 full years.

The job for which he "generously" and only supposedly gave up $1. 6 Million in exchange for the American tax-payers to pay for his weekly golf excursions to rescue his failed golf resorts for much, much more than $1. 6 Millon and to con and grift Hundreds of Millions of Dollars in foreign and domestic bribes does not begin at 12 Noon when he "clocks in" and end at 4 pm when he "clocks out."

Therefore, any hours he spends hosting Pay Masters who are competing to out bribe everyone else in their headlong rush to buy that America-hating fucker is an hour that he has further ripped off America.[/QUOTE]What about the 400 million dollar plane that Trump begged the Qatar dictator for? The American taxpayer pays 1 billion dollars to retrofit a 13 year old hand me down plane that is not good enough for its dictator. Do I need remind everyone that Qatar funds Hamas a group of terrorists who aim to kill Americans.

So, the plane is a "gift" to America that Dept of Defense will give to Trump before he leaves office? The American taxpayers will pay 1 billion dollars do that Trump can fly an Air Force One while out of office?

If Biden or Obama tried to do this Republicans would go nuts!

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3005744]Trump took an Oath or in his case a Lie of Office to be President of the United States of America 24/7, 365 days per year for 4 full years.[/QUOTE]First off, everyone needs sleep. Secondly, if you want to apply that criteria, Biden should give back all of what he was paid. He was asleep his whole presidency. Trump should be 24/7 on the job without breaks or personal time? This is probably the stupidest thing anyone has ever said about another person.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3005744]The job for which he "generously" and only supposedly gave up $1. 6 Million in exchange for the American tax-payers to pay for his weekly golf excursions to rescue his failed golf resorts for much, much more than $1. 6 Millon and to con and grift Hundreds of Millions of Dollars in foreign and domestic bribes does not begin at 12 Noon when he "clocks in" and end at 4 pm when he "clocks out."

Therefore, any hours he spends hosting Pay Masters who are competing to out bribe everyone else in their headlong rush to buy that America-hating fucker is an hour that he has further ripped off America.[/QUOTE]Yeah, sure. We know how you dumb Democratic douches play. When Clinton was playing golf, when Obama was playing basketball, or when Biden was asleep at the beach, they "earned" a break. When Trump plays golf, he somehow is ripping off the American voter.

So if Trump does something you hate it. When he takes time off, you hate it. Yeah, we all got that. Orange man bad. We have been hearing that shit for 10 years now.

What are you going to lie about next, Loony Tooms?

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3005744]Trump took an Oath or in his case a Lie of Office to be President of the United States of America 24/7, 365 days per year for 4 full years.

The job for which he "generously" and only supposedly gave up $1. 6 Million in exchange for the American tax-payers to pay for his weekly golf excursions to rescue his failed golf resorts for much, much more than $1. 6 Millon and to con and grift Hundreds of Millions of Dollars in foreign and domestic bribes does not begin at 12 Noon when he "clocks in" and end at 4 pm when he "clocks out."

Therefore, any hours he spends hosting Pay Masters who are competing to out bribe everyone else in their headlong rush to buy that America-hating fucker is an hour that he has further ripped off America.[/QUOTE]You hate anything good for America and Americans.

And love anything bad for America and Americans.

Evinced by none other than you vote for Bird Brain Harris (and Bubba and Biden and Barry) and your promotion of her over Our Lord and Savior here 24/7.

Now get back to making your Anti American / Trump memes.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3005720]That is why your links are worthless. All they are is more of your lies.

From your link: President Donald Trump will host a gathering of VIPs today at his private golf resort outside Washington, the. See. These are not diplomats or heads of state. They are rich people, foreign and domestic, who have put money into the Trump family's pockets.

The dinner is for winners of a contest the crypto traders who raced to become the top 220 holders of the president's $TRUMP meme coin. According to one analysis, they collectively accumulated about $150 million of the crypto asset, which has no intrinsic value and is equivalent to a digital baseball card.

So what? How is that ripping off taxpayers?

It gets worse.

What Yahoo said:

"The situation should be revolting to anybody who cares about the American interest," says Norm Eisen, a good-government champion who now directs the Democracy Defenders Fund. "It's damaging to the country. When people give you a $400 million plane, or a $2 billion investment, or buy your meme coins in large amounts to have dinner with you and visit the White House they expect something in return. ".

What actually happened:

Trump made only a brief appearance, Pinto said. "he didn't talk to any of the 220 guests maybe the top 25," he said.

All in, the president was there for 23 minutes, Pinto said. Trump delivered a brief address rehashing old crypto talking points then left on a helicopter before taking any questions or pictures with his meme coin contest winners, he said.

"The president is attending it in his personal time. It is not a White House dinner," press secretary Karoline Leavitt told reporters when pressed on attendee transparency.

A Bloomberg News analysis found that all but six of the top 25 wallets used foreign exchanges, ostensibly off-limits to USA Users. More than half of the top 220 wallets were linked to similar offshore platforms.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/[/URL]$Trump.

Less than a day later, the aggregate market value of all coins was more than $27 billion, valuing Trump's holdings at more than $20 billion.

A disclaimer said that the coin was "not intended to be, or the subject of" an investment opportunity or a security and was "not political and has nothing to do with" any political campaign, political office or government agency.

So instead of being like blood thirsty Dems dying to be bribed by crypto billionaire and now criminal Sam Bankman-Fried, Trump sets up a crypto venture that he admits has no intrinsic value and people bid it up to $20+ billion. That is a lot better than being financed by a crook like Democrats do. SBF was the #2 donor to Democrats.

Yes, it is an ethical violation because you dumb Democratic douches did not think of it first. The whole notion of "buying influence" was a total lie.

Trump putting his names on goods and inflating their prices is what he has done his whole business life. That is what most corporations do.

As for the plane, that is a gift from Qatar to the USA not to Trump himself. While taxpayers have been paying billions for a new Air Force One and Boeing, which may be the worst run business in the USA, has been dicking around. Qatar kindly offered to donate a plane, to the USA taxpayer not Trump, and Trump said yes. The USA AG has already approved of the transaction.

And Yahoo lies about this:

Trump says such things often enough that he can't help himself from repeating some of it in public, including recently about the proposed gift of a $400 million 747 jumbo jet "sky palace" from the government of a Gulf emirate. "I think it's a great gesture from Qatar; I appreciate it very much. I would never be one to turn down that kind of an offer," the president told the press at the White House in mid-May. "I mean, I could be a stupid person saying, 'No, we don't want a free, very expensive airplane. '" (As Rolling Stone previously reported, Trump often does not distinguish between what's his and what belongs to the people or its government, including when it comes to this plane which he privately refers to as "one of my" new airplanes.).

This is so stupid. There is a movie called Air Force One and the most famous line in it is the president saying, "Get off my plane!" This is just more lies. This is a gift to the USA. Are you Democratic douches saying that we should give the Statue of Liberty back as it was a gift from France?

And there is more from Yahoo. On Monday, Reuters reported that the Trump Organization and a local partner are considering building a skyscraper in Vietnam, after the country approved the Trump family empire's plans for a $1. 5 billion luxury residential development and golf club. Eric Trump attended the golf club's groundbreaking ceremony on Wednesday with Vietnam's prime minister. Vietnam is simultaneously working to negotiate a tariff deal with the Trump administration.

So what? Has Vietnam gotten a better tariff deal than other Asian countries? Well, uh, no Elvis, but they might.

More from Yahoo: The public knows about the arrangement between Bondi and Qatar because of disclosures required by the Foreign Agents Registration Act, or FARA a law meant to shine a light on foreign influence and propaganda campaigns inside the USA The Trump administration, on Bondi's first day, also ordered a halt to criminal prosecutions for violations of FARA.

Uh, yeah, we know all about this because Republicans were prosecuted by this law that was never / rarely used before. In fact, given how much the Bidens got from China and Ukraine, we Republicans were screaming as to why Joe and Hunter were not prosecuted under this law. In the end the reason for not prosecuting was Joe was too senile and Hunter got a pardon.

Oh yeah, I forgot. You Dems are the "rule of law" party.

So let's put a pin in this. Trump cannot be bribed because he makes his own money. You Democratic douches cannot and when Trump does make his own money, you douches scream "ethical violations".

I would much rather a president do this than have his hand out the whole time begging for $ like most pols do and selling influence. The funny part is that Trump has raked in billions on Truth Social and now with this meme coin. The irony is that you dumb douches thinking Qatar giving the USA a $400 million plane is "bribing" Trump. I do not think you could buy influence with Trump for $400 million.

All you have shown is Trump is making so much money that it would cost someone tens of billions to bribe him. In comparison, the Chinese bought off the Bidens with a few million.[/QUOTE]As the axiom goes, "When you're in a hole stop digging" not them they want to nominate AOC in 2028 LMFAO.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFRR4YYqT_g[/URL]

GOOD STUFF.

Allahu Akbar.

Imagine if you will a White House (and World) free of a Democrat for 20 or 30 yrs.

I think many people have a price? Does Trump? Maybe, but not millions or even 10's of billions, I'm guessing if you could get him 500 billion so he's the richest man in the world we might have to be worried lolol but that's the beauty of the situation that is way to cost prohibitive for just about everyone.

Like the plane and Trump he has planes helis Penthouses Golf Courses etc can you buy him with a plane? Not a chance, nor more than you could buy me or you with a nice car.

Ill take it as a gift, but don't expect anything in return.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3005711][URL]https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/05/25/us/politics/trump-politics-democrats.html[/URL]

AOC / Harris 2028 Please God Please! Lolololololololololol.[/QUOTE]No typically Blue State flipped to Trump due to this supposed shift in Dem demographic support. Not one. The only 3 swing states that mattered, PA, MI and WI, swung away from Harris and therefore by default to Trump, which gave him his razor-thin win, were the 3 states where Muslim Community leaders mobilized their community's voters to vote against anyone from the Biden Administration because they wanted to punish him for supporting Israel in the Israel-Gaza conflict, which they extrapolated to be supporting Netanyahu, who they hated.

Do you think that 114,900 or so Muslim voters out of the potential hundreds of thousands of Muslim voters across those 3 swing states, their votes bring the sole reason Donald Trump won, less than a 0. 75 percentage point swing of all the votes in all three of those states, will be foolish enough to repeat that now understood and deeply regretted self-defeating idiocy by voting for a Repub ever again?

Meanwhile, in a momentary Global Trend to kick out incumbents in favor of Winger Loons, the WH incumbent Dems in 2024 took House seats away from Repubs even in the only 3 swing states that mattered where that tiny handful of Muslim vote swings were the sole reason Trump won by that razor-thin margin! LOL.

Oh, but the Repubs did take back 3 Senate seats in Red States that it was a miracle any Dem ever won and held in the first place in that particularly Repub-advantaged Senate race year. LOL. Big "upset".

Your Dem hero, James Carville, is correct in pointing out that Dems are winning elections around the country nobody thought they could win, contrary to what the polls suggest:

[B]James Carville dismisses Democratic Party's record-low polling: 'We're winning elections'.
Veteran Democratic strategist points to recent ballot-box victories despite party's favorability sinking to historic lows.
May 17, 2025[/B]

[URL]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/james-carville-dismisses-democratic-partys-record-low-polling-were-winning-elections[/URL]

There is no sign that there will be a tiny handful of angry Muslims willing to pull another rabbit out of a hat for a Repub candidate any time soon. Especially without Trump in the mix and Netanyahu cleverly timing a ceasefire agreement to swing the election to the weakest negotiator and most bumbling fumbling USA president ever, Trump.

Even longtime Trump / MAGA Cult Spokesmen like Ben Shapiro are showing signs of snapping out of their Trump / MAGA Delusions:

[B]Top MAGA Star Taps Out As Trump Crosses The Line[/B]

[URL]https://youtu.be/0iGMY2G0rz8?si=rY-H-wZQ25_0Nuun[/URL]

The host covers much of the Trump / MAGA lunacy in just 9 minutes of Must See video.

[U]Elvis 2008 writes[/U]:

[QUOTE]Are you Democratic (derogatory statement redacted) saying that we should give the Statue of Liberty back as it was a gift from France?[/QUOTE][B]It was not a gift from the government of France.[/B]

Full Stop!

[B]Has Elvis 2008 even been seen the Statue of Liberty. Been to to top of it?[/B]

His fellow American posting this has.

Looking for more soy femcucks to vote for soy femcucks and hideous butchlesbos.

[URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/dems-mull-20-million-plan-figure-out-why-young-men-dont-them[/URL]

Allahu Akbar.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3005760]First off, everyone needs sleep. Secondly, if you want to apply that criteria, Biden should give back all of what he was paid. He was asleep his whole presidency. Trump should be 24/7 on the job without breaks or personal time? This is probably the stupidest thing anyone has ever said about another person.

Yeah, sure. We know how you dumb Democratic douches play. When Clinton was playing golf, when Obama was playing basketball, or when Biden was asleep at the beach, they "earned" a break. When Trump plays golf, he somehow is ripping off the American voter.

So if Trump does something you hate it. When he takes time off, you hate it. Yeah, we all got that. Orange man bad. We have been hearing that shit for 10 years now.

What are you going to lie about next, Loony Tooms?[/QUOTE]Yep. Even in his sleep.

So if Repub GW Bush's Attack on 9/11 had happened when he was asleep at 3 AM all tuckered out from clearin' brush down at the ranch and running from his Presidential Daily Briefings, you would have approved of Turd Blossom waiting until 10 am to inform him?

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3005759]What about the 400 million dollar plane that Trump begged the Qatar dictator for? The American taxpayer pays 1 billion dollars to retrofit a 13 year old hand me down plane that is not good enough for its dictator. Do I need remind everyone that Qatar funds Hamas a group of terrorists who aim to kill Americans.

So, the plane is a "gift" to America that Dept of Defense will give to Trump before he leaves office? The American taxpayers will pay 1 billion dollars do that Trump can fly an Air Force One while out of office?

If Biden or Obama tried to do this Republicans would go nuts![/QUOTE]Typically pro Repub Mainstream Media has always been on board with every outrageous Repub Double Standard they need to maintain in order to help their beloved Repubs win elections.

If Joe Biden had ever said or done anything as loony and incoherent as the stuff Trump has done and said every day during his Trump's Pandemic Part 1 term and now in his Trump's Pandemic Part 2 term, the first question the MSM would be asking every pol they interview is "Shouldn't his Cabinet start enforcing the 25th Amendment"?

Instead, they just shrug it off as normal and nothing to see here, folks.

And the House Repubs would already have initiated at least a dozen Impeachment proceedings with the Repub Senate assured to convict on all of them.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3005814]No typically Blue State flipped to Trump due to this supposed shift in Dem demographic support. Not one. The only 3 swing states that mattered, PA, MI and WI, swung away from Harris and therefore by default to Trump, which gave him his razor-thin win, were the 3 states where Muslim Community leaders mobilized their community's voters to vote against anyone from the Biden Administration because they wanted to punish him for supporting Israel in the Israel-Gaza conflict, which they extrapolated to be supporting Netanyahu, who they hated.

Do you think that 114,900 or so Muslim voters out of the potential hundreds of thousands of Muslim voters across those 3 swing states, their votes bring the sole reason Donald Trump won, less than a 0. 75 percentage point swing of all the votes in all three of those states, will be foolish enough to repeat that now understood and deeply regretted self-defeating idiocy by voting for a Repub ever again?

Meanwhile, in a momentary Global Trend to kick out incumbents in favor of Winger Loons, the WH incumbent Dems in 2024 took House seats away from Repubs even in the only 3 swing states that mattered where that tiny handful of Muslim vote swings were the sole reason Trump won by that razor-thin margin! LOL.

Oh, but the Repubs did take back 3 Senate seats in Red States that it was a miracle any Dem ever won and held in the first place in that particularly Repub-advantaged Senate race year. LOL. Big "upset".

Your Dem hero, James Carville, is correct in pointing out that Dems are winning elections around the country nobody thought they could win, contrary to what the polls suggest:

[B]James Carville dismisses Democratic Party's record-low polling: 'We're winning elections'.
Veteran Democratic strategist points to recent ballot-box victories despite party's favorability sinking to historic lows.
May 17, 2025[/B]

[URL]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/james-carville-dismisses-democratic-partys-record-low-polling-were-winning-elections[/URL]

There is no sign that there will be a tiny handful of angry Muslims willing to pull another rabbit out of a hat for a Repub candidate any time soon. Especially without Trump in the mix and Netanyahu cleverly timing a ceasefire agreement to swing the election to the weakest negotiator and most bumbling fumbling USA president ever, Trump.

Even longtime Trump / MAGA Cult Spokesmen like Ben Shapiro are showing signs of snapping out of their Trump / MAGA Delusions:

[B]Top MAGA Star Taps Out As Trump Crosses The Line[/B]

[URL]https://youtu.be/0iGMY2G0rz8?si=rY-H-wZQ25_0Nuun[/URL]

The host covers much of the Trump / MAGA lunacy in just 9 minutes of Must See video.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2025/05/25/bennet-democratic-party-brand-does-not-help-anywhere/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;3005448] And what clown show is that? The South African president says kill the boar (the white man), and Democratic douches just like you who are in favor of killing Trump are cheering that on. And why? Because black slaves built the White House? Hey douche, how about African blacks enslaving one another? How about all the whites enslaved in Biblical times? And more importantly, why do you give a fuck about any of that which happened in the past?

Am I supposed to care about the racism in the past? I did not endorse that, but I am supposed to pay for that because of my skin color? LOL.

But if some leader is currently killing his citizens, I want to make sure our leaders do not support that. Oh wait, because it is black people killing white people, I should not be allowed to have an opinion. And why is that? Because of my skin color?

So just admit the truth, Mr. Facts, Mr. Democratic douche. You do not give a fuck about the history of slavery. All you care is about is pretending to be on the black person's side today by beating up other white men so they vote Democrat, and your checks keep flowing. So you are not just a traitor to your sex, you are a traitor to your race, the human race.[/QUOTE]

Uhh! Say What Now?

How does this section of text, relate to the FACTS I provided, in relation to the CLEAR and UNDENIABLE evidence that Repubs have huge majority, some 75% of the corrupt robber baron billionaires, funding them 2024?

A FACT you victoriously and nonsensically DENY, while making up your own gish gallop, to obfuscate, from the facts, just like the clown show, Repub House, that has foolishly pushed through, your Fuhrer's BBB, that ultimately funds TAX CUTS for the rich elites and robber baron billionaire class, on the backs of hardworking Americans.

Therefore, since I have no idea, what you're RANTING about, w/r to billionaires not paying their fair share of taxes, I'll let one of our esteemed colleagues, take over and explain it to you AGAIN:

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3005614]Someone is reading my posts even though they have me on ignore.

The South African President did not say: [I]kill white people[/I]. You know it. That is why you have never put up a link.

[B]Friends of yours Elvis?[/B]

[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-55937133[/URL]

But you shouldn't get tax cuts for your skin color either!

[B]You sure about that Elvis 2008?[/B] But it is ok for USGOV to support Israel?

We are all allowed to have our own opinions. I would expect nothing less from a Republican (truthful adjective redacted). You are not allowed your own facts.

The same race that allowed this:

I don't care about Fentanyl. My fellow Americans affected do not look like me. I could care less. The problem should be handled in the same way the [I]CRACK[/I] epidemic was handled: Long Ass Prison Sentences! Deportation to El Salvador.

[B]ROTFLMAO![/B]

[U]A pension is earned. Social Security is earned[/U]

End the Social Security program. Right now! Won't bother me none one bit. I don't collect from the program. Elvis 2008 are you and your Colombian prostitutes benefiting directly from the tax cuts in the [I]The Enormous Welfare for the Rich Bill[/I].

[URL]https://youtu.be/SZ8psP4S6BQ?si=veP0U-JmqpaDPwMt[/URL]

[QUOTE][b]And if he signs me then I'll be a law, least I hope pray that I will but today I am still just a bill. [/b][/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

Thanks AGAIN SubCdmr, for educating, schooling and setting straight, Elvis 2008, ...much appreciated!

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3005759]What about the 400 million dollar plane that Trump begged the Qatar dictator for? The American taxpayer pays 1 billion dollars to retrofit a 13 year old hand me down plane that is not good enough for its dictator.[/QUOTE]And the alternative is to keep handing billions more to Boeing to waste? Oh yeah, that is great. Retrofiting is a better deal than paying Boeing. This is just fake outrage.

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3005759]Do I need remind everyone that Qatar funds Hamas a group of terrorists who aim to kill Americans.[/QUOTE]Oh brother. From wiki, [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatari_support_for_Hamas[/URL].

The United States requested in 2011 that Qatar provide a base for the Hamas leadership to ease communications with the group. From 2018 to 2023, Israel's government enabled and approved of the Qatari support for Hamas for political reasons.

And 2011, USA President Barack Obama personally requested that Qatar, one of the USA 's most important Arab allies, provide a base for the Hamas leadership. At the time, the USA Were seeking to establish communications with Hamas and believed that a Hamas office in Qatar would be easier to access than a Hamas bureau in Iran, the group's main backer.

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3005759]If Biden or Obama tried to do this Republicans would go nuts![/QUOTE]Obama cozied up to Qatar!

Are you one of these Ben Shapiro types who hates all Arabs even ones that happened to be allies?

This is just more of the same orange man bad crap we hear over and over.

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;3005448]If you think Kamala got $1 billion in donations from small donors, I have a bridge to sell you.[/QUOTE] Where exactly are you again, on hiring that translator, I talked about, so you can understand and comprehend FACTS, so that you can become less ambiguous?

[b]Small-dollar Donors Power Historic Q3 Surge: $1.5 Billion Raised for 2024s Crucial Election[/b]
[url]https://blog.actblue.com/2024/10/15/small-dollar-donors-power-historic-q3-surge-1-5-billion-raised-for-2024s-crucial-election/[/url]

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;3005448]Please tell me how "it worked" in 2024 when your dumb Democratic douche lost? How about this fact? You were dead wrong about who was going to win. And, Spidy, Mr. CCP liar, is telling the biggest lie of all: I am Mr. Facts. What a joke! The same douche telling me how wonderful the air is in China is lecturing me on facts. LOL. [/QUOTE] See the link above, as to just how well, it worked! Small donations, up from 2020, where your dumbass lost, rioted, formed an insurrection and you knucklehead MAGA losers went to jail! [i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i]

And Dems were NEVER wrong about, what a shit show, your Fuhrer's 2.0 admin term, was going to be!

[QUOTE=Spidy;3005985]How does this section of text relate to the FACTS I provided in relation to the CLEAR and UNDENIABLE evidence that Repubs have huge majority of 75% of the corrupt robber baron billionaires, funding them 2024? A FACT you victoriously and nonsensically DENY, while making up your own gish gallop?[/QUOTE]Ah, yes, Mr. CCCP AKA Mr. Facts is still ranting about the Democrats not being the party of the rich. Let's try this again. [URL]https://www.thenation.com/article/society/democrats-rich-party-obama/We[/URL] have known for some time that the dark money of Charles Koch is answered by the conspicuous money of Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Jack Dorsey, Tim Cook, Sundar Pichai, George Soros, Bill Gates, and a swelling chorus of others, none of whom "identify Republican. ".

Some recent US figures on the distribution of income by party: 65 percent of taxpayer households that earn more than $500,000 per year are now in Democratic districts; 74 percent of the households in Republican districts earn less than $100,00 per year. Add to this what we knew already, namely that the 10 richest congressional districts in the country all have Democratic representatives in Congress. The above numbers incidentally come from the Internal Revenue Service, via Bloomberg, and are likely to be more reliable than if they came from Project Veritas via [URL]theblaze.com[/URL].

Yes, the proposed Trump tax cuts help the rich Democratic districts more than anyone else. As for Republicans, according to Loony Tooms, we are the party of the Arab terrorists. My God, you cannot make this shit up.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3005985]Thanks SubCdmr, for setting Elvis 2008, straight AGAIN![/QUOTE]Ah yes, thanks for quoting SC. I needed my daily dose of medicine from a racist, unpatriotic, unappreciative narcissist. Yes, we have the man griping on a Colombian hooker board living in Thailand saying he deserves more of my money because of racism in America while fucking his ugly Thai women while getting his pension and social security dollars from the USA. Yes, he deserves more of my money based on his skin color and he brags about fucking his ugly women because they are cheap. Pussy is pussy.

And the difference between Kill the Boer and kill the white man is hugely significant in his mind. And just like, SC, Spidy, you want South African whites and Trump dead. Never mind that a few decades ago the Boers were the ones demonized as racist and told they were such horrible people for keeping power. That had to change. Ah yes, South Africa is such a great example of why white people should be so compassionate with black people. He did not say white person. He said boer. Unfuckingreal.

Meanwhile, the oppressed SC, the guy who worked 10 X harder at his TSA job because it was so racist, is getting by with his 100 inch TV. My God, can you believe the horror? It is so racist of me to not want to pay for his new 120 inch set. And Spidy, you poor parasite, are you just getting by with a TV funded by taxpayers that is just 86 inches? Ah yes, you are so compassionate with tax payer dollars. Yes, SC, I will sacrifice my tax handouts for you. You go first brother.

Of course, he is your brother in arms. You, SC, and Loony Tooms are cut from the same cloth, a group of parasites wanting more government money for your hookers, and you deserve more because guys like me are racist and that assumption is totally based on my skin color. Maybe that should be your new slogan: Vote Democrat. We are tired of fucking our butt ugly hookers. He he.

And the funniest story of the week is this: [URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/dems-mull-20-million-plan-figure-out-why-young-men-dont-them[/URL].

Six months after a stinging nationwide rejection that handed Donald Trump a commanding reelection and fractured their core coalition, the Democratic Party is turning to a new solution: spending $20 million to figure out why young men don't like them.

"Above all, we must shift from a moralizing tone," the document urges.

In other words, the modern Democratic Party wants to know how it can lie to young men and get away with it. When we support South Africa killing white farmers, that is racist South African white men not you. When we say young white men are racist, we mean everyone else but you. When we brag about how far women have come, we mean all the sexist men not you.

Of course, maybe if Democrats stopped being racist, sexist parasites who come up with a plan that unties rather than divides the country, young men might listen to them.

It gets worse: It outlines a massive push to decode the language and culture of disaffected young men, particularly in online spaces, and includes a proposal to buy ads inside video games. Ah yes, video games, what young American men have decided to do as opposed to deal with American women.

It really amazes me that Dems are so blind to what young men are seeing. First off, young men have seen older men who have been completely held hostage by women over their children, Divorced Dads Should Give Up on Their Children. For Now. And Clarey is just reacting to what he has seen in his own life. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poKz44hjjG0[/URL].

Fathers will often have to put up with the psycopath that is the American woman who initiate divorce most of the time not out of being abused but boredom. If you have children with an American woman, you are their hostage. Look at the parasites on this forum selling out their sex for a few flings with foreign hookers.

Then there is the other part. Only Fans Replaced By AI. The Return of Hot Girls to Real Jobs? [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ab6aH4WV-1g[/URL].

Clarey first mentions his terrible working experience with most hot American women. He then praises the guy who started Only Fans as a genius but this guy knows it is time to sell because this genius founder knows that AI women are going to replace regular women in the digital world. Who needs the American fantasy woman who is so often such a beetch, when you can have the fantasy woman who will do whatever you ask 24/7?

And then you have the path for the young American male: AI women at home for your sexual pleasure. If you desire real women or a relationship, have a woman or women abroad. If you want children that are truly yours, get a foreign wife and keep her in her native country or get a surrogate who is not an American woman, the perpetual victim class, to bear your children and hire nannies for child care.

MDS, it is amazing how many foreign women I have met who have had American men ask them to be surrogate mothers. It blows me away.

I get it. It is way cheaper to do so and you do not have to put up with the American woman who as Clarey puts it if they are attractive at all are likely to be bat shit crazy.

It is funny how parasites like Spidy call American men incels. Shit, if I were a young American male, I would wear that incel badge with proud. If you deal with American women, more likely than not, you are the dumb one.

It is so funny because you know the Democratic douches will try so hard to plug the holes in the system. Every time, they call people racist or sexist with their hiring practices, employers move the job overseas or hire independent contractors. Every time the douches or women are offended by male words, men learn to just say as little as possible. Every time men are falsely called rapists, the Democratic douches push men into the incel world.

And when you see the attitudes of the parasite class like Tooms, Spidy, and SC, you do all you can to pay less in taxes. If that means work less or open a business where you can take huge losses like Trump did to avoid taxes, you do so. The one thing you know is that with those three they do not give a shit about the future of the country. They do not give a shit if the country they grew up in is a mess drowning in debt as long as they get their share.

Do not fall for the con that I did. That hard work will be the answer to all your dreams. The parasites are lined up to take all that you have earned, shit on you, and brag about how they deserve your money more than you do. Get by with less. Work smarter not harder. And do all you can to cut the parasites, who are the worst of the Democratic douches, out of your life.

And that is why the Democratic douche plan to lure young men will fail. It is all based on lying to them.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3005754]Rumor has it that Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and Bill Clinton will soon issue a joint statement that:

"This is just terrible. Terrible. It shouldn't have happened. And it wouldn't have happened on My / Our watch! Really. This terrible thing never would have happened if I / We had been President! I / We can tell you that"!

Apparently, this is only happening because Putin senses [I]weakness[/I] in Donald Trump.

[B]Russia hits Ukraine with the largest drone and missile attack of the war so far[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/25/russia-hits-ukraine-with-largest-drone-missile-attack-of-war-so-far.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

I guess Trump has been too busy golfing at his failed golf resorts and forcing American tax-payers to pay for it to make that simple phone call and say the magic Trump words to "stop that war within 24 hours, I can tell you that![/QUOTE]A) you're an extreme partisan Hack / Democrat.

B) I'm sure you went to those shitty California public schools, my sympathies.

The reason My Dearest Vladimir is fucking up Kyiv like I said he was going to from Day #1.

Is because he can, he is going to extract a pound of flesh, make that a few billion metric tons out of Zelensky for starting all this shit.

He isn't going to stop, until he feels he has rec'd enough recompense for his being inconvenienced by all this Biden bullshit, he isn't going to stop fucking them up because.

Ukraine is getting curb stomped and you don't like it, he and Our Lord and Savior discussed it the other day, and I'm sure Vladimir was told.

Let me know when you're finished!! Not unlike Gaza!!

Get your head out your ass.

And get a clue, maybe stop watching MSNBC 24/7.

You don't wave the white flag when you're winning a war, you press hard on the gas pedal!!

Please Kill them all Vladimir.

We Love You.

MAGA.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3005991]Where exactly are you again, on hiring that translator, I talked about, so you can understand and comprehend FACTS, so that you can become less ambiguous?

[b]Small-dollar Donors Power Historic Q3 Surge: $1.5 Billion Raised for 2024s Crucial Election[/b]
[url]https://blog.actblue.com/2024/10/15/small-dollar-donors-power-historic-q3-surge-1-5-billion-raised-for-2024s-crucial-election/[/url]

See the link above, as to just how well, it worked! Small donations, up from 2020, where your dumbass lost, rioted, formed an insurrection and you knucklehead MAGA losers went to jail! [i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i]

And Dems were NEVER wrong about, what a shit show, your Fuhrer's 2.0 admin term, was going to be![/QUOTE][URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/09/us/politics/future-forward-harris-democrats.html[/URL]

After*Criticism,*Harris's*$900*Million*Group*Tries*to*Lay*Out*a*Future.

Future*Forward,*the*big-money*group*supporting*Kamala*Harris's*presidential*bid*last*year,*resurfaced*after*her*loss*with*an*event*in*California.

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Some*of*the*biggest*names*in*Democratic*politics*came*to*the*Ritz-Carlton*resort*in*Half*Moon*Bay,*Calif. ,*this*week*for*a*closed-door*conference*hosted*by*the*super*PAC*Future*Forward. Credit. Smith*Collection*—*Gado,*via*Getty*Images.

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By*Theodore*Schleifer*and*Shane*Goldmacher.

Reporting*from*Washington.

May*9,*2025.

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Ever*since*Vice*President*Kamala*Harris*lost*the*election*in*November,*a*big-money*group*that*had*raised*over*$900*million*to*support*her*but*ultimately*failed*in*its*efforts*has*kept*a*low*profile*—*even*as*Ms. *Harris's*advisers*have*publicly*second-guessed*its*approach*to*the*campaign.

But*a*closed-door*conference*this*week*hosted*by*the*super*PAC,*Future*Forward,*at*a*luxury*seaside*hotel*in*California*made*plain*that*the*group*does*not*plan*to*fade*away.

Future*Forward*drew*some*of*the*biggest*names*in*Democratic*politics*to*the*Ritz-Carlton*resort*in*Half*Moon*Bay,*Calif. ,*south*of*San*Francisco,*to*brief*donors*on*what*it*thought*went*wrong*last*year*—*and*what*could*come*next.

Attendees*included*potential*future*presidential*candidates,*such*as*Gov. *Gavin*Newsom*of*California*and*Gov. *Andy*Beshear*of*Kentucky,*and*seven-figure*Democratic*donors,*some*of*whom*had*questions*about*why*Future*Forward*was*unable*to*help*Ms. *Harris*win.

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At*an*event*on*Thursday*with*passed*hors*the'oeuvres*like*mini*lobster*rolls*and*short-rib*tostones*and*a*dinner*featuring*heirloom*tomato*carpaccio,*beef*tenderloin*and*seared*sea*bass,*Chauncey*McLean,*the*group's*leader,*gestured*to*criticism*of*what*he*called*the*group's*"reputation"*—*a*dependence*on*polling*and*testing*and*randomized*trials.

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"Those*are*all*just*fancy*ways*of*saying*we*listen*to*voters*and*try*to*gauge*whether*any*of*the*things*we*do*actually*work,"*Mr. *McLean*said,*according*to*a*person*in*the*room. *The*group*declined*to*comment.

Standing*in*the*Ritz-Carlton's*observatory*room,*Mr. *McLean*tried*to*both*calm*the*waters*and*send*a*message*that*Future*Forward*wants*to*remain*a*part*of*the*Democratic*Party,*despite*the*criticism.

Other*speakers*at*the*event*included*Mr. *Newsom*and*Mr. *Beshear,*as*well*as*Rahm*Emanuel,*the*former*Chicago*mayor,*and*Senator*Amy*Klobuchar*of*Minnesota,*according*to*a*copy*of*the*agenda*reviewed*by*The*New*York*Times. *They*were*interviewed*by*Future*Forward*operatives,*such*as*the*pollster*David*Shor*and*the*former*Biden*adviser*Anita*Dunn,*and*by*Kara*Swisher,*a*former*New*York*Times*opinion*columnist.

The*guests*included*about*40*donors*who*funded*roughly*$250*million*of*Future*Forward's*work*in*the*2024*election*cycle,*the*group*told*guests*at*the*conference,*according*to*a*person*who*attended.

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Those*megadonors*included*Jeff*Lawson,*a*founder*of*the*tech*company*Twilio,*and*the*investor*Andrew*Hauptman,*who*each*gave*$1*million*to*the*super*PAC*last*cycle,*as*well*as*the*philanthropist*Shannon*Hunt-Scott,*who*gave*$450,000. *Also*in*attendance*were*aides*to*several*of*the*party's*most*influential*billionaires,*such*as*Dustin*Moskovitz,*a*founder*of*Facebook.

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USA *temporarily*lifts*some*sanctions*on*Syria,*fulfilling*a*Trump*pledge.

The*E. P. A. *wants*to*erase*greenhouse*gas*limits*on*power*plants,*documents*show.

Sessions*included*a*viewing*of*a*live*focus*group*of*young*men*in*what*was*2024's*hardest-fought*congressional*district,*California's*13th;*a*briefing*from*the*executive*director*of*the*Democratic*Governors*Association;*and*a*closing*session*on*Friday*featuring*three*Democratic*members*of*Congress.

"The*best*way*to*stop*Donald*Trump*at*the*federal*level*is*to*win*control*of*the*House*of*Representatives*in*2026,"*read*the*agenda. *Many*of*Future*Forward's*talks*highlighted*Democrats*who*had*won*in*conservative*states,*such*as*Gov. *Laura*Kelly*of*Kansas.

The*mere*existence*of*the*conference,*especially*for*a*group*known*for*its*discretion,*fascinated*Democratic*donors*and*their*advisers*in*recent*months. *Some*privately*said*in*advance*that*they*were*attending*Future*Forward's*event*partly*out*of*curiosity*about*how*the*group*would*defend*its*work*last*year.

Ms. *Harris's*team*has*shared*some*veiled*criticism*of*Future*Forward,*including*in*an*interview*on*the*podcast*"Pod*Save*America"*just*after*Election*Day. *Privately,*some*Democrats*have*been*far*less*friendly,*saying*that*Future*Forward*aired*ads*too*late*in*the*cycle*and*should*have*focused*more*squarely*on*turning*out*Black*and*Hispanic*voters*for*Ms. *Harris.

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Top*Future*Forward*advisers*on*Friday*defended*their*approach*to*guests*that*included*Minyon*Moore,*a*longtime*Democratic*operative*and*a*Harris*confidante. *They*outlined*that*96.3*percent*of*the*super*PAC's*spending*was*on*advertising,*as*opposed*to*unrelated,*overhead*costs,*and*that*its*nonprofit*gave*$220*million*to*73*progressive*groups,*according*to*two*people*in*the*room*when*the*information*was*presented. *Advisers*also*reviewed*which*of*the*group's*ads*worked*and*which*did*not,*based*on*data*it*collected.

Given*Ms. *Harris's*defeat,*it*has*not*been*clear*to*well-heeled*Democrats*that*Future*Forward*has*a*path*forward. *The*group*was*founded*during*the*2018*election,*and*its*leaders*did*not*initially*anticipate*that*it*would*become*a*long-term*part*of*the*Democratic*establishment,*though*President*Joseph*are. *Biden*Jr. *eventually*made*it*the*primary*outside*group*supporting*his*re-election*bid.

In*recent*months,*Future*Forward*has*held*private*conversations*with*donors*to*discuss*what*happened*in*2024*and*to*express*the*group's*desire*to*remain*active*in*politics,*according*to*two*people*with*knowledge*of*the*conversations.

The*group*has*said*that*since*its*founding*it*has*raised*$1. 4*billion,*but*it*remains*to*be*seen*whether*it*will*be*the*leading*group*for*a*2028*presidential*nominee.

Theodore*Schleifer*is*a*Times*reporter*covering*billionaires*and*their*impact*on*the*world.

Shane*Goldmacher*is*a*Times*national*political*correspondent.

This tiny new big-money group raised almost $1 billion for Bird Brain Harris from the American hating oligarchy alone!!

[QUOTE=Spidy;3005991]Where exactly are you again, on hiring that translator, I talked about, so you can understand and comprehend FACTS, so that you can become less ambiguous?

[b]Small-dollar Donors Power Historic Q3 Surge: $1.5 Billion Raised for 2024s Crucial Election[/b]
[url]https://blog.actblue.com/2024/10/15/small-dollar-donors-power-historic-q3-surge-1-5-billion-raised-for-2024s-crucial-election/[/url]

See the link above, as to just how well, it worked! Small donations, up from 2020, where your dumbass lost, rioted, formed an insurrection and you knucklehead MAGA losers went to jail! [i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i]

And Dems were NEVER wrong about, what a shit show, your Fuhrer's 2.0 admin term, was going to be![/QUOTE][URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/teaching-or-treason-us-alleges-fed-economist-spied-beijing[/URL]

I say execute him.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3005985]Uhh! Say What Now?

How does this section of text, relate to the FACTS I provided, in relation to the CLEAR and UNDENIABLE evidence that Repubs have huge majority, some 75% of the corrupt robber baron billionaires, funding them 2024?

A FACT you victoriously and nonsensically DENY, while making up your own gish gallop, to obfuscate, from the facts, just like the clown show, Repub House, that has foolishly pushed through, your Fuhrer's BBB, that ultimately funds TAX CUTS for the rich elites and robber baron billionaire class, on the backs of hardworking Americans.

Therefore, since I have no idea, what you're RANTING about, w/r to billionaires not paying their fair share of taxes, I'll let one of our esteemed colleagues, take over and explain it to you AGAIN:



Thanks AGAIN SubCdmr, for educating, schooling and setting straight, Elvis 2008, ...much appreciated![/QUOTE][URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/03/31/elon-musk-claims-2-1-million-non-citizens-received-social-security-numbers-in-2024/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2025/05/25/speaker-johnson-there-are-more-than-1-4-million-illegal-aliens-on-medicaid/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3005993]Ah, yes, Mr. CCCP AKA Mr. Facts is still ranting about the Democrats not being the party of the rich. Let's try this again. [URL]https://www.thenation.com/article/society/democrats-rich-party-obama/We[/URL] have known for some time that the dark money of Charles Koch is answered by the conspicuous money of Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Jack Dorsey, Tim Cook, Sundar Pichai, George Soros, Bill Gates, and a swelling chorus of others, none of whom "identify Republican. ".

Some recent US figures on the distribution of income by party: 65 percent of taxpayer households that earn more than $500,000 per year are now in Democratic districts; 74 percent of the households in Republican districts earn less than $100,00 per year. Add to this what we knew already, namely that the 10 richest congressional districts in the country all have Democratic representatives in Congress. The above numbers incidentally come from the Internal Revenue Service, via Bloomberg, and are likely to be more reliable than if they came from Project Veritas via [URL]theblaze.com[/URL].

Yes, the proposed Trump tax cuts help the rich Democratic districts more than anyone else. As for Republicans, according to Loony Tooms, we are the party of the Arab terrorists. My God, you cannot make this shit up..[/QUOTE]Dirtbag SC worked for TSA lololol.

Well thank God no more, Our Lord and Savior voided their collective bargaining agreement so as to allow them.

The ability to purge the agency from DEI scum like SC lolololololol.

I fly all the time and I want to be safe and don't want trash like that having any hand in my safety!

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3006030][URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/03/31/elon-musk-claims-2-1-million-non-citizens-received-social-security-numbers-in-2024/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2025/05/25/speaker-johnson-there-are-more-than-1-4-million-illegal-aliens-on-medicaid/[/URL][/QUOTE]Undocumented Immigrants can not collect Social Security. They can get a Social Security number in order to PAY the FICA Tax and thereby help to fund the program for USA citizens. But then they can't collect Social Security.

Good deal for American Citizens, right?

They also don't generally qualify for Medicaid. And neither do their children. Although, again, they might very well work and PAY into the Medicaid program.

Another good deal for American Citizens and their children, right?

President Musk should stick with chainsawing away the regulators and overseers who can bust him on his rocketship toys violations and stop commenting on stuff he knows nothing about. Which is virtually everything other than his rocketship toys.

We have two individuals who lie in the thread. They are looking for a third for a threesome for a mini orgy of untruth.

You can turn the Social Security program off right now. I don't get any. So, both of you (Elvis 2008) and yourself need to stop lying about individuals who receive the money that hey paid into Social Security as anything other than legitimate receivers of government benefits.

There would be no problem with the Social Security program if was funded properly like a pension fund. Or the rich like Elvis 2008 and MarquisdeSade1 didn't receive preferential tax benefits because they are rich (ers).

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3006030][URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/03/31/elon-musk-claims-2-1-million-non-citizens-received-social-security-numbers-in-2024/[/URL][/QUOTE]White people receive 43% of the benefits from Medicaid in the Dis-United Staes of America. The most represented of any racial group receiving benefits.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3006030][URL]https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2025/05/25/speaker-johnson-there-are-more-than-1-4-million-illegal-aliens-on-medicaid/[/URL][/QUOTE][B]STOP THE SPIN and OUTRIGHT LIES![/B]

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3006007]A) you're an extreme partisan Hack / Democrat.

B) I'm sure you went to those shitty California public schools, my sympathies.

The reason My Dearest Vladimir is fucking up Kyiv like I said he was going to from Day #1.

Is because he can, he is going to extract a pound of flesh, make that a few billion metric tons out of Zelensky for starting all this shit.

He isn't going to stop, until he feels he has rec'd enough recompense for his being inconvenienced by all this Biden bullshit, he isn't going to stop fucking them up because.

Ukraine is getting curb stomped and you don't like it, he and Our Lord and Savior discussed it the other day, and I'm sure Vladimir was told.

Let me know when you're finished!! Not unlike Gaza!!

Get your head out your ass.

And get a clue, maybe stop watching MSNBC 24/7.

You don't wave the white flag when you're winning a war, you press hard on the gas pedal!!

Please Kill them all Vladimir.

We Love You.

MAGA.[/QUOTE]Remember this?

[B]Trump calls Putin 'genius' and 'savvy' for Ukraine invasion.
Feb. 23, 2022[/B]

[URL]https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/23/trump-putin-ukraine-invasion-00010923[/URL]

And here he is today, for his Top Lover doing more of the exact same thing:

[B]Trump calls Putin 'absolutely crazy' following Russia's latest barrage on Ukraine.
May 26, 2025[/B]

[URL]https://www.npr.org/2025/05/26/nx-s1-5412389/trump-putin-absolutely-crazy[/URL]

Is Donald J. Trump really the last pol on the Planet to figure out that Putin takes the opportunity of a purported "ceasefire" as a very good time to increase his fire on the countries he invades?

Biden knew that as a better President than Trump will ever be even in his sleep. Which he only did to rest up from his job of being one of the Best Presidents in History and, unlike Trump, not from a side job of booking rooms in his failed golf resorts and taking bribes on sales of crypto through his likely scam crypto sales service.

Now, a few days ago Elvis was good enough to point out that Repub Trump brilliantly only "pretends" to be a total economic ignoramus with his 100% ignorant Trump Tariff pronouncements that he immediately caves on and then comes up with a 99.99% ignorant pronouncement in his March to The Worst Economic Results Since The Great Repub Depression.

So would you say Repub Trump is pulling that same trick with his foreign policy on war? Was he brilliantly only "prentending" to be the most ignorant pol on the Planet about Putin ever since February 2022, publicly blowing him bareback with a full CIM+Swallow on his every attack on Ukraine until today when he can totally flip-flop on that foreign policy and prove to the World he is more than totally ignorant but also an utterly erratic numbskull?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3005993]Meanwhile, the oppressed SC, [b]the guy who worked 10 X harder at his TSA job because it was so racist[/b], is getting by with his 100 inch TV. My God, can you believe the horror? It is so racist of me to not want to pay for his new 120 inch set.[/QUOTE]Continue to write lies about me Elvis 2008. Find yourself as defendant being sued under 28 USC 4101.

[B]Try me![/B]

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3006078]Dirtbag SC worked for TSA lololol.

Well thank God no more, Our Lord and Savior voided their collective bargaining agreement so as to allow them.

The ability to purge the agency from DEI scum like SC lolololololol.

I fly all the time and I want to be safe and don't want trash like that having any hand in my safety![/QUOTE]Nah, when the parasite SC was hired, the TSA did not exist. I have a family member who writes federal grants and is always going on about how imperfect government work is and how lazy employees are. At the year end period of the grant, the biggest problem is how do they spend up all the money they never needed. And these Democratic douches go on and on about how there is no fat in the government's programs.

TSA agents are just what most people see as government workers. Because they are in the public eye, TSA agents actually work harder, if you can believe that, than most other federal employees.

And SC would have been an affirmative action hire not DEI, not that that is so much better. His claim that he worked 10 X harder than white people killed me. How do you work 10 X harder than someone at the TSA? If you add up all the days off a federal worker gets, it can be up to 10 weeks or 50 days per year and that does not include other perks like family leave. Then you have on top of that the family leave program and as a buddy of mine told me, "you never can get anyone in government fired".

And you know how all those former senators and presidents have so many people at their funerals? That is because so many government employees get paid or get their expenses reimbursed to be there. It is like a party for them and then they have health care outside of the government structures like the VA.

And SC probably got the deal where he gets a pension of 85% of his three best years of salary in government which can be and probably is more than the maximum payout for social security.

One of the issues with Covid is so many government employees did not want to come back to the office and so few did. I met a gal in DC who was literally working one hour a day at her government job and with Covid, she was able to work remotely. That is why so many government agencies scared the shit out of people with Covid. They did not want to return to the office.

This is from a Reddit forum where people were talking about sick leave:

No one gives a hoot where I am. It is actively encouraged to take all the time you want, whenever you want. I know people who put in the day of because they decide to go do X activities on a whim. No one ever questions sick leave and I have never heard anyone needing to produce a doctor's note.

I took almost a month of leave and never gave a doctors note. I told the office I broke my hand and they were like "take all the time you need" so I did. Never asked for specific days or hours ahead of putting them in.

And in the mean time, you got Democratic douche Eli Tooms going on about how Trump needs to work 24/7 while he is banging hookers on our dime in Thailand.

Do not tell me how you paid into the system when you have been taking handouts from government the whole time. Hell, we have Spidy here telling me how weird I am for not taking government handouts. It was amazing that these douches tripped over themselves trying to find anything that I got from government.

The parasites have no respect for taxpayers. They have no respect for their country. They live abroad and all they care about is they get more from us.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3006081]Undocumented Immigrants can not collect Social Security. They can get a Social Security number in order to PAY the FICA Tax and thereby help to fund the program for USA citizens. But then they can't collect Social Security.

Good deal for American Citizens, right?

They also don't generally qualify for Medicaid. And neither do their children. Although, again, they might very well work and PAY into the Medicaid program.

Another good deal for American Citizens and their children, right?

President Musk should stick with chainsawing away the regulators and overseers who can bust him on his rocketship toys violations and stop commenting on stuff he knows nothing about. Which is virtually everything other than his rocketship toys.[/QUOTE]Ah yes, Loony Tooms the liar is at it again. Mr. Rule of law is telling how great it is that illegal immigrants break the law. Chrome-extension: efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj /[URL]https://budget.house.gov/imo/media/doc/the_cost_of_illegal_immigration_to_taxpayers.pdf[/URL].

Illegal immigrants have a negative fiscal impact -- taxes paid minus benefits received -- primarily because a large share have modest levels of education, resulting in relatively low average incomes and tax payments, along with significant use of means-tested programs and other government services.

Using the National Academies' estimate of immigrants' net fiscal impact by education level, we estimate that the lifetime fiscal drain (taxes paid minus costs) for each illegal immigrant is about $68,000.

Based on their use rate of major welfare programs, we estimate that illegal immigrants receive $42 billion in benefits, or about 4 percent of the total cost of the cash.

Use of emergency medical services is another area in which illegal immigrants create significant fiscal costs. Prior research indicates that there are 5. 8 million uninsured illegal immigrants in the country in 2019, accounting for a little over one-fifth of the total population without health insurance. The costs of providing care to them likely totals some $7 billion annually.

Illegal immigrants do pay some taxes. We estimate that illegal immigrants in 2019 paid roughly $5. 9 billion in federal income tax, $16.2 billion in Social Security tax and $3. 8 billion in Medicaid taxes. However, as the net fiscal drain of $68,000 per person cited above indicates, these taxes are not nearly enough to cover the cost of the services they receive.

End of link.

Why is Tooms so supportive of federal workers and their sick leave and so critical of Trump using his spare time to make money? Because most government workers vote Democrat, and Trump is now a Republican. And how on God's green earth can you claim to be a Democratic douche "rule of law" person when you support illegal immigrants? It is the same reason. They vote Democrat. And why does Loony Tooms go off so badly on Muslim Americans while bragging about how great illegal immigrants are? Because the Muslim Americans did not vote for Democrats this election cycle because of Biden policies on Israel.

It is just more of the same lies and half-truths. He wants Democrats in power because they give parasites like him more money.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3006140]Ah yes, Loony Tooms the liar is at it again. Mr. Rule of law is telling how great it is that illegal immigrants break the law. Chrome-extension: efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj /[URL]https://budget.house.gov/imo/media/doc/the_cost_of_illegal_immigration_to_taxpayers.pdf[/URL].

Illegal immigrants have a negative fiscal impact -- taxes paid minus benefits received -- primarily because a large share have modest levels of education, resulting in relatively low average incomes and tax payments, along with significant use of means-tested programs and other government services.

Using the National Academies' estimate of immigrants' net fiscal impact by education level, we estimate that the lifetime fiscal drain (taxes paid minus costs) for each illegal immigrant is about $68,000..[/QUOTE]If poor baby Repub Trump needs the money so badly that he has to take a part time job as a hotel Booker and crypto sales service rep, or is that his full time job and Destroying the USA Economy his part time job, then maybe the charity he should be donating his White House salary to ought to be himself.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3006140]Ah yes, Loony Tooms the liar is at it again. Mr. Rule of law is telling how great it is that illegal immigrants break the law. Chrome-extension: efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj /[URL]https://budget.house.gov/imo/media/doc/the_cost_of_illegal_immigration_to_taxpayers.pdf[/URL].

Illegal immigrants have a negative fiscal impact -- taxes paid minus benefits received -- primarily because a large share have modest levels of education, resulting in relatively low average incomes and tax payments, along with significant use of means-tested programs and other government services.

Using the National Academies' estimate of immigrants' net fiscal impact by education level, we estimate that the lifetime fiscal drain (taxes paid minus costs) for each illegal immigrant is about $68,000.

Based on their use rate of major welfare programs, we estimate that illegal immigrants receive $42 billion in benefits, or about 4 percent of the total cost of the cash.

Use of emergency medical services is another area in which illegal immigrants create significant fiscal costs. Prior research indicates that there are 5. 8 million uninsured illegal immigrants in the country in 2019, accounting for a little over one-fifth of the total population without health insurance. The costs of providing care to them likely totals some $7 billion annually.

Illegal immigrants do pay some taxes. We estimate that illegal immigrants in 2019 paid roughly $5. 9 billion in federal income tax, $16.2 billion in Social Security tax and $3. 8 billion in Medicaid taxes. However, as the net fiscal drain of $68,000 per person cited above indicates, these taxes are not nearly enough to cover the cost of the services they receive..[/QUOTE]There are countless non-partisan studies that have come to this same conclusion over the decades, including those done over the past year.

[B]Illegal immigrants benefit the U.S. economy[/B]

[URL]https://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/foreign-policy/203984-illegal-immigrants-benefit-the-us-economy/[/URL]

[QUOTE]When analyzed from the vantage point of information derived from reputable, nonpartisan sources (the Pew Research Center, USDA, United States Department of Labor, and leading economists and researchers) then one can obtain a clearer view of this muddled discussion. The truth of the matter is that illegal immigrants are important to the U.S. economy, as well as vital to certain industries like agriculture.
..........
But what about the immense strain on social services and money spent on welfare for these law breakers? The Congressional Budget Office in 2007 answered this question in the following manner: "Over the past two decades, most efforts to estimate the fiscal impact of immigration in the United States have concluded that, in aggregate and over the long term, tax revenues of all types generated by immigrantsboth legal and unauthorizedexceed the cost of the services they use. According to the New York Times, the chief actuary of the Social Security Administration claims that undocumented workers have contributed close to 10% ($300 billion) of the Social Security Trust Fund.[/QUOTE]Repub Donald Trump would have to work much harder on all of his part time jobs if he replaced his low wage / high FICA-paying undocumented workers at all of his failed golf resorts.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3006136]Nah, when the parasite SC was hired, the TSA did not exist. I have a family member who writes federal grants and is always going on about how imperfect government work is and how lazy employees are. At the year end period of the grant, the biggest problem is how do they spend up all the money they never needed. And these Democratic douches go on and on about how there is no fat in the government's programs.

TSA agents are just what most people see as government workers. Because they are in the public eye, TSA agents actually work harder, if you can believe that, than most other federal employees.

And SC would have been an affirmative action hire not DEI, not that that is so much better. His claim that he worked 10 X harder than white people killed me. How do you work 10 X harder than someone at the TSA? If you add up all the days off a federal worker gets, it can be up to 10 weeks or 50 days per year and that does not include other perks like family leave. Then you have on top of that the family leave program and as a buddy of mine told me, "you never can get anyone in government fired".

And you know how all those former senators and presidents have so many people at their funerals? That is because so many government employees get paid or get their expenses reimbursed to be there. It is like a party for them and then they have health care outside of the government structures like the VA.

And SC probably got the deal where he gets a pension of 85% of his three best years of salary in government which can be and probably is more than the maximum payout for social security.

One of the issues with Covid is so many government employees did not want to come back to the office and so few did. I met a gal in DC who was literally working one hour a day at her government job and with Covid, she was able to work remotely. That is why so many government agencies scared the shit out of people with Covid. They did not want to return to the office.

This is from a Reddit forum where people were talking about sick leave:

No one gives a hoot where I am. It is actively encouraged to take all the time you want, whenever you want. I know people who put in the day of because they decide to go do X activities on a whim. No one ever questions sick leave and I have never heard anyone needing to produce a doctor's note.

I took almost a month of leave and never gave a doctors note. I told the office I broke my hand and they were like "take all the time you need" so I did. Never asked for specific days or hours ahead of putting them in.

And in the mean time, you got Democratic douche Eli Tooms going on about how Trump needs to work 24/7 while he is banging hookers on our dime in Thailand.

Do not tell me how you paid into the system when you have been taking handouts from government the whole time. Hell, we have Spidy here telling me how weird I am for not taking government handouts. It was amazing that these douches tripped over themselves trying to find anything that I got from government.

The parasites have no respect for taxpayers. They have no respect for their country. They live abroad and all they care about is they get more from us.[/QUOTE]They hate the United States and they hate Americans, unless you hate us too of course.

They are part of a very sick cult, I used to say they shouldn't be allowed to be expats with our Tax dollars, well someone smarter than me thought otherwise.

They were brilliant, just pay them to leave and never come back.

I think I'm pretty smart, why didn't I think of that.

God Bless America.

And may he protect us from our enemies, both foreign and domestic (ie Spidy ET SC and Tinyclit).

BTW so are you saying SC was part of the scumbag crew that allowed 9/11?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3006136]Nah, when the parasite SC was hired, the TSA did not exist. I have a family member who writes federal grants and is always going on about how imperfect government work is and how lazy employees are. At the year end period of the grant, the biggest problem is how do they spend up all the money they never needed. And these Democratic douches go on and on about how there is no fat in the government's programs.

TSA agents are just what most people see as government workers. Because they are in the public eye, TSA agents actually work harder, if you can believe that, than most other federal employees.

And SC would have been an affirmative action hire not DEI, not that that is so much better. His claim that he worked 10 X harder than white people killed me. How do you work 10 X harder than someone at the TSA? If you add up all the days off a federal worker gets, it can be up to 10 weeks or 50 days per year and that does not include other perks like family leave. Then you have on top of that the family leave program and as a buddy of mine told me, "you never can get anyone in government fired".

And you know how all those former senators and presidents have so many people at their funerals? That is because so many government employees get paid or get their expenses reimbursed to be there. It is like a party for them and then they have health care outside of the government structures like the VA.

And SC probably got the deal where he gets a pension of 85% of his three best years of salary in government which can be and probably is more than the maximum payout for social security.

One of the issues with Covid is so many government employees did not want to come back to the office and so few did. I met a gal in DC who was literally working one hour a day at her government job and with Covid, she was able to work remotely. That is why so many government agencies scared the shit out of people with Covid. They did not want to return to the office.

This is from a Reddit forum where people were talking about sick leave:

No one gives a hoot where I am. It is actively encouraged to take all the time you want, whenever you want. I know people who put in the day of because they decide to go do X activities on a whim. No one ever questions sick leave and I have never heard anyone needing to produce a doctor's note.

I took almost a month of leave and never gave a doctors note. I told the office I broke my hand and they were like "take all the time you need" so I did. Never asked for specific days or hours ahead of putting them in.

And in the mean time, you got Democratic douche Eli Tooms going on about how Trump needs to work 24/7 while he is banging hookers on our dime in Thailand.

Do not tell me how you paid into the system when you have been taking handouts from government the whole time. Hell, we have Spidy here telling me how weird I am for not taking government handouts. It was amazing that these douches tripped over themselves trying to find anything that I got from government.

The parasites have no respect for taxpayers. They have no respect for their country. They live abroad and all they care about is they get more from us.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.ebay.com/itm/236112875560?_skw=irestore[/URL]+professional&itmmeta=01 JWFER78 FRNP6 AKAT8 S4 PQKRM&hash=item36 f96 c9028: g: t-wAAOSwaOZm0 Nhi&itmprp=enc%3 AAQAKAAAA8 FkggFvd1 GGDu0 w3 yXCmi1 dRUDoDoJ2%2 FrLAkSZv4 DBHXPdASsdQevWa6 Z0 NDPVQ7 nK88 GMplCElHPjW0595 R0 e2 HL1 FOcNxZqbTwfheQgpWOum0 X80 Tsj7 h%2 BOTvmDESy1 NyS9%2 B0 NOyM1%2 F5 CoR1 l7 OcWAo8 UrJzpNDMisnFsch8 pDs3%2 BqeSwcfM7 mzSri2 vfyzUd7 e0 H5 Wql2 Vb1 ClPVDa4 M%2 FdgfBWK%2 FlcvU62%2 BCej4 cbFkhFvPd1 vu7 PbLF6 Zv5 Ysj2 M6 We8 XVyRBv%2 BFAko%2 Bgz2 XI0 OnX9 YTKFZkN5 bQCuXmKVYPM1 Y%2 Fb3 o3 k%2 FbHtnqRxg%3 D%3 D%7 Ctkp%3 ABk9 SR6 j04 O7 jZQ.

Do you know Lani Guinier.

How about Dirtbag Tom Morello.

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2025/05/28/rocker-tom-morello-defends-bruce-springsteen-and-harvard-against-trump-fk-that-guy/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3006136]Nah, when the parasite SC was hired, the TSA did not exist. I have a family member who writes federal grants and is always going on about how imperfect government work is and how lazy employees are. At the year end period of the grant, the biggest problem is how do they spend up all the money they never needed. And these Democratic douches go on and on about how there is no fat in the government's programs.

TSA agents are just what most people see as government workers. Because they are in the public eye, TSA agents actually work harder, if you can believe that, than most other federal employees.

And SC would have been an affirmative action hire not DEI, not that that is so much better. His claim that he worked 10 X harder than white people killed me. How do you work 10 X harder than someone at the TSA? If you add up all the days off a federal worker gets, it can be up to 10 weeks or 50 days per year and that does not include other perks like family leave. Then you have on top of that the family leave program and as a buddy of mine told me, "you never can get anyone in government fired".

And you know how all those former senators and presidents have so many people at their funerals? That is because so many government employees get paid or get their expenses reimbursed to be there. It is like a party for them and then they have health care outside of the government structures like the VA.

And SC probably got the deal where he gets a pension of 85% of his three best years of salary in government which can be and probably is more than the maximum payout for social security.

One of the issues with Covid is so many government employees did not want to come back to the office and so few did. I met a gal in DC who was literally working one hour a day at her government job and with Covid, she was able to work remotely. That is why so many government agencies scared the shit out of people with Covid. They did not want to return to the office.

This is from a Reddit forum where people were talking about sick leave:

No one gives a hoot where I am. It is actively encouraged to take all the time you want, whenever you want. I know people who put in the day of because they decide to go do X activities on a whim. No one ever questions sick leave and I have never heard anyone needing to produce a doctor's note.

I took almost a month of leave and never gave a doctors note. I told the office I broke my hand and they were like "take all the time you need" so I did. Never asked for specific days or hours ahead of putting them in.

And in the mean time, you got Democratic douche Eli Tooms going on about how Trump needs to work 24/7 while he is banging hookers on our dime in Thailand.

Do not tell me how you paid into the system when you have been taking handouts from government the whole time. Hell, we have Spidy here telling me how weird I am for not taking government handouts. It was amazing that these douches tripped over themselves trying to find anything that I got from government.

The parasites have no respect for taxpayers. They have no respect for their country. They live abroad and all they care about is they get more from us.[/QUOTE][URL]https://news.wttw.com/2025/05/28/cta-paid-some-employees-1m-remote-work-they-could-not-complete-watchdog-report-finds[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3006140]Ah yes, Loony Tooms the liar is at it again. Mr. Rule of law is telling how great it is that illegal immigrants break the law. Chrome-extension: efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj /[URL]https://budget.house.gov/imo/media/doc/the_cost_of_illegal_immigration_to_taxpayers.pdf[/URL].

Illegal immigrants have a negative fiscal impact -- taxes paid minus benefits received -- primarily because a large share have modest levels of education, resulting in relatively low average incomes and tax payments, along with significant use of means-tested programs and other government services.

Using the National Academies' estimate of immigrants' net fiscal impact by education level, we estimate that the lifetime fiscal drain (taxes paid minus costs) for each illegal immigrant is about $68,000.

Based on their use rate of major welfare programs, we estimate that illegal immigrants receive $42 billion in benefits, or about 4 percent of the total cost of the cash.

Use of emergency medical services is another area in which illegal immigrants create significant fiscal costs. Prior research indicates that there are 5. 8 million uninsured illegal immigrants in the country in 2019, accounting for a little over one-fifth of the total population without health insurance. The costs of providing care to them likely totals some $7 billion annually.

Illegal immigrants do pay some taxes. We estimate that illegal immigrants in 2019 paid roughly $5. 9 billion in federal income tax, $16.2 billion in Social Security tax and $3. 8 billion in Medicaid taxes. However, as the net fiscal drain of $68,000 per person cited above indicates, these taxes are not nearly enough to cover the cost of the services they receive.

End of link.

Why is Tooms so supportive of federal workers and their sick leave and so critical of Trump using his spare time to make money? Because most government workers vote Democrat, and Trump is now a Republican. And how on God's green earth can you claim to be a Democratic douche "rule of law" person when you support illegal immigrants? It is the same reason. They vote Democrat. And why does Loony Tooms go off so badly on Muslim Americans while bragging about how great illegal immigrants are? Because the Muslim Americans did not vote for Democrats this election cycle because of Biden policies on Israel.

It is just more of the same lies and half-truths. He wants Democrats in power because they give parasites like him more money.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/05/27/ny-times-admits-anchor-babies-benefit-hugely-taxpayer-funded-welfare/[/URL]

[U]Civil Rights in the Dis-United States of America[/U]

This is one of the reasons the Dis-United States of America is so divided. Republicans have managed to hijack the concept of civil rights (which in reality is nothing more than just living up to the Constitution of the United States of America). The have turned in a power weapon of hate to divide my fellow citizens and serve as a distraction of the gross inequities in income and wealth distribution supported by the Republican Party.

[B]The attack on DEI is driven by the desire from White Men being able to say [b]nigger[/b] in the workplace again without being fired![/B]

US Americans also boycott Tesla now, from lost jobs. ZFE places will be cancelled in France, when I m sad for new Challenger / Charger, real pity.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3005993]Some recent US figures on the distribution of income by party: 65 percent of taxpayer households that earn more than $500,000 per year are now in Democratic districts; 74 percent of the households in Republican districts earn less than $100,00 per year. Add to this what we knew already, namely that the 10 richest congressional districts in the country all have Democratic representatives in Congress. The above numbers incidentally come from the Internal Revenue Service, via Bloomberg, and are likely to be more reliable than if they came from Project Veritas via [URL]theblaze.com[/URL]. [/QUOTE]Ahh yes, the Elvis 2008, tried and true method, of running and hiding, from his previous nonsensical claims, (ie. [I][b]"If you think Kamala got $1 billion in donations from small donors, I have a bridge to sell you.",[/b][/I]), to see what more [B]gish gallop,[/B] will stick to the wall, because again, he's clearly lost, yet another argument when faced with the truth that, [i]Small-dollar Donors Power Historic Q3 Surge: $1.5 Billion Raised for 2024s Crucial Election,[/i] [URL]https://blog.actblue.com/2024/10/15/small-dollar-donors-power-historic-q3-surge-1-5-billion-raised-for-2024s-crucial-election/[/URL]. I think you once offered Dems advice "to STOP digging a hole", perhaps you should take your own advice! [I][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/I].

You were wrong! Just admit it! There's no shame! You are often wrong about most things! [I][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/I].

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3005993]Ah, yes, Mr. CCCP AKA Mr. Facts is still ranting about the Democrats not being the party of the rich. Let's try this again. [URL]https://www.thenation.com/article/society/democrats-rich-party-obama/We[/URL] have known for some time that the dark money of Charles Koch is answered by the conspicuous money of Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Jack Dorsey, Tim Cook, Sundar Pichai, George Soros, Bill Gates, and a swelling chorus of others, none of whom "identify Republican. ". [/QUOTE]Uhhh! What does some freakin' 2023 article have to do with YOU BEING WRONG, about Dem billionaires and ME BEING RIGHT, about the FACT Republican robber baron billionaires do indeed, spend and contribute more to buy puppet pocket and muppet MAGA politicians in an election, given the [B]most recent[/B] FACTS and FIGURES for the Nov 2024 Election?

The 2024 election cycle saw a record GOP lean, [u]with 70%-75% of billionaire funds favoring Republicans and conservatives.[/u]

[b]Billionaires Buying Elections: Congressional Races,[/b] Sept 26th, 2025
[URL]https://americansfortaxfairness.org/billionaires-buying-elections-congressional-races-report/[/URL]
[URL]https://americansfortaxfairness.org/billionaires-buying-elections-theyve-come-to-collect/[/URL], Apr 20,2025.

[B]Packed Pacs: how billionaires in the US are bankrolling Republicans at the state level [/B], March, 2025.
[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/05/billionaires-funding-republicans[/URL]

[b]STOP[/b] with the [b]gish gallop[/b] and bring [b]the FACTS,[/b] that the Repub robber baron billionaire class contributed LESS then Dems!

Just the FACTS ma'am'!!!

TACO trade Trump fucked by justice. Also a liar about amount he claimed USA spent for Ukraine, when for real, not more than what Europe gave and not asking to be paid back, when lies from Trump who wants to rob poor Ukrainians, when USA mostly spent to pay USA companies for weapons stock they had. Land of lies and shame.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3006276]Ahh yes, the Elvis 2008, tried and true method, of running and hiding, from his previous nonsensical claims, (ie. [I][b]"If you think Kamala got $1 billion in donations from small donors, I have a bridge to sell you.",[/b][/I]), to see what more [B]gish gallop,[/B] will stick to the wall, because again, he's clearly lost, yet another argument when faced with the truth that, [i]Small-dollar Donors Power Historic Q3 Surge: $1.5 Billion Raised for 2024s Crucial Election,[/i] [URL]https://blog.actblue.com/2024/10/15/small-dollar-donors-power-historic-q3-surge-1-5-billion-raised-for-2024s-crucial-election/[/URL]. I think you once offered Dems advice "to STOP digging a hole", perhaps you should take your own advice! [I][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/I].

You were wrong! Just admit it! There's no shame! You are often wrong about most things! [I][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/I].

Uhhh! What does some freakin' 2023 article have to do with YOU BEING WRONG, about Dem billionaires and ME BEING RIGHT, about the FACT Republican robber baron billionaires do indeed, spend and contribute more to buy puppet pocket and muppet MAGA politicians in an election, given the [B]most recent[/B] FACTS and FIGURES for the Nov 2024 Election?

The 2024 election cycle saw a record GOP lean, [u]with 70%-75% of billionaire funds favoring Republicans and conservatives.[/u]

[b]Billionaires Buying Elections: Congressional Races,[/b] Sept 26th, 2025
[URL]https://americansfortaxfairness.org/billionaires-buying-elections-congressional-races-report/[/URL]
[URL]https://americansfortaxfairness.org/billionaires-buying-elections-theyve-come-to-collect/[/URL], Apr 20,2025.

[B]Packed Pacs: how billionaires in the US are bankrolling Republicans at the state level [/B], March, 2025.
[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/05/billionaires-funding-republicans[/URL]

[b]STOP[/b] with the [b]gish gallop[/b] and bring [b]the FACTS,[/b] that the Repub robber baron billionaire class contributed LESS then Dems!

Just the FACTS ma'am'!!![/QUOTE]How do you clean things up? Well, it's easy but it'll never happen.

Make all private campaign contributions illegal. Disband PACs and super PACs, have a short election cycle, term limits, and pass a law preventing anyone who serves in or is appointed to any government position panning them from advising or working for any company that advises or does business with the government for 5 years before and 10 years after serving. I would add to this end executive orders as legislation is supposed to start in the house. Let's also do away with presidential pardons.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3006009][URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/09/us/politics/future-forward-harris-democrats.html[/URL]

After*Criticism,*Harris's*$900*Million*Group*Tries*to*Lay*Out*a*Future. ...

This tiny new big-money group raised almost $1 billion for Bird Brain Harris from the American hating oligarchy alone!![/QUOTE][i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i]

Good heavens, yet another [b]clueless MAGA knucklehead,[/b] posting reams of non-related articles, that have NOTHING to do with the argument/discussion at hand!

May I suggest you go back and revisit the STARTING PREMISE of the "argument" and then figure out your NEXT STEPS, w/r to a proper post, related to this particular, who contributed more, Dems vs. Repub billionaire debate!

[b]PS: [/b]BTW, I just love the new addition of "STARS" to your blatant reams of COPY-N-PASTE posts, that the NY Times have implemented to detract from your overcompensating REAMS of plagiarism, when all you need is a simple LINK! [i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3006151]There are countless non-partisan studies that have come to this same conclusion over the decades, including those done over the past year.

[B]Illegal immigrants benefit the U.S. economy[/B]

[URL]https://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/foreign-policy/203984-illegal-immigrants-benefit-the-us-economy/[/URL]

Repub Donald Trump would have to work much harder on all of his part time jobs if he replaced his low wage / high FICA-paying undocumented workers at all of his failed golf resorts.[/QUOTE]Illegal aliens may benefit the DNC puppeteers on Wall Street but they really really screw the poor, they steal their jobs, they drive down their wages, they steal their welfare benefits.

They drive up the cost of their housing clothing food etc.

They even make it harder for them to get their families in to see a Doctor or an appt for Dialysis etc etc etc.

They drive up crime (murder, rape, child molestations) in their neighborhoods and flood them with deadly narcotics etc etc.

I can go on for hours.

I know you've seen illegal Afrikans on Suk in BKK selling drugs and driving up crime there also.

Just like illegals do everywhere.

Elon Musk, Mark Rubio, Pete Hegseth, Dan Caine, Kash Patel, Kristi Noem, Pam Bondi.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3006078]Dirtbag SC worked for TSA lololol.
Well thank God no more, Our Lord and Savior voided their collective bargaining agreement so as to allow them. The ability to purge the agency from DEI scum like SC lolololololol. I fly all the time and I want to be safe and don't want trash like that having any hand in my safety![/QUOTE][B]No I did not work for TSA. Elvis 2008 has retracted his lie.[/B] Stop repeating it!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3006136]Nah, when the parasite SC was hired, the TSA did not exist.[/QUOTE]What agency did I work for?

What does my former government job have to do with American Politics? What does Social Security have to do with it since I don't collect it.

My understanding is that you fly to Colombia a lot to hire expensive prostitutes. You don't fuck American Girls, but you have something to say because I travel the world fucking girls outside of America. [B]What is up with the double standard[/B]? Is it because I am Black that you have such problem with me?

Who keeps the planes you fly on from running into each other when you are on the way to use your tax breaks that you get in order to hire your expensive prostitutes? [U]Air Traffic Controllers[/U]! Who do they work for: [B]USGOV[/B].

[B]The Defense Rests![/B]

My fellow citizens who live outside of the Dis-United States of America pay their taxes and with the exception of the US State Department Office of Consulate Services get absolutely nothing from those payments.

While those who continue to live in the Dis-United States of America and fly around the world to hire prostitutes to get their dick sucked and fucked because they have no game and cannot handle girls in the Dis-United States of America are getting all of those benefits.

From this alone the government should be running a budget surplus. I wish someone would step to my face and call me a parasite. I'll take then out on golf course pull out my wedge and show them my short game when I am just off the green and in the rough. I am a excellent ball striker.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3006276]Ahh yes, the Elvis 2008, tried and true method, of running and hiding, from his previous nonsensical claims, ("If you think Kamala got $1 billion in donations from small donors, I have a bridge to sell you.",), to see what more gish gallop,will stick to the wall, because again, he's clearly lost, yet another argument when faced with the truth that, [i]Small-dollar Donors Power Historic Q3 Surge: $1.5 Billion Raised for 2024s Crucial Election,[/i] [URL]https://blog.actblue.com/2024/10/15/small-dollar-donors-power-historic-q3-surge-1-5-billion-raised-for-2024s-crucial-election/[/URL]. I think you once offered Dems advice "to STOP digging a hole", perhaps you should take your own advice!

You were wrong! Just admit it! There's no shame! You are often wrong about most things!

Uhhh! What does some freakin' 2023 article have to do with YOU BEING WRONG, about Dem billionaires and ME BEING RIGHT, about the FACT Republican robber baron billionaires do indeed, spend and contribute more to buy puppet pocket and muppet MAGA politicians in an election, given the most recent FACTS and FIGURES for the Nov 2024 Election?[/QUOTE]I quote IRS data and you quote a bunch of liberal hack sites manipulating data.

Let's keep this simple. Who raised more money, Trump or Harris? Harris. By a long shot.

Who won the election? Trump.

And your response? Trump is in the pocket of the rich. Here is a novel idea, Spidy. Maybe your party lost because your party lied so fucking much and you are doing it again with this small donor bullshit.

[URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/11/04/trump-vs-harris-fundraising-race-harris-outraised-trump-3-to-1-with-last-pre-election-report/[/URL]

The Bidennow Harriscampaign committee raised $997.2 million and Trump's campaign committee raised $388 million in total between Jan. 2023 and Oct. 16,2024, the most recent date for which Federal Election Commission filings are available, ending with $118 million and $36.2 million in cash on hand, respectively.

And you keep the lies up. We Democrats are the party of the poor. Give me a fucking break. Your party raised way more money in 2024, tried to buy the election, and lost. And Loony Tooms blames the loss on Muslims and now you try to blame it on billionaires. How pathetic are you people?

You were wrong about the election and you are wrong about why you lost. The rich and powerful in your party jettisoned Biden who won the primary and nominated the weakest fucking candidate I have ever seen in a presidential election.

And you know why Kamla was selected? The real reason Kamala was selected was TOTALLY due to money. If anyone other than the VP replaced Biden, all the money Biden raised would have to be sent back to donors.

But yeah, I have no doubt that you think you are right about everything, Mr. Facts.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;3006295]How do you clean things up? Well, it's easy but it'll never happen.

Make all private campaign contributions illegal. Disband PACs and super PACs, have a short election cycle, term limits, and pass a law preventing anyone who serves in or is appointed to any government position panning them from advising or working for any company that advises or does business with the government for 5 years before and 10 years after serving. I would add to this end executive orders as legislation is supposed to start in the house. Let's also do away with presidential pardons.[/QUOTE]I agree with most of what you wrote. I think what you do not get Goatscrot is how many laws are made by bureaucrats and unelected judges. Yes, ideally, Congress should make all the laws. In reality, at least executive orders are signed into law by someone who was elected. Well, maybe that was not the case with Biden who probably could not hold a pen, but at least it was true with Trump and Obama. The problem with the Biden administration that everyone is admitting now is that the person elected as president was not making the decisions on executive orders.

And yes, presidential pardons have been corrupted, but they are an important safety valve for when the judicial system screws up.

But everything else you said, I agree with 1000%.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;3006295]How do you clean things up? Well, it's easy but it'll never happen.

Make all private campaign contributions illegal. Disband PACs and super PACs, have a short election cycle, term limits, and pass a law preventing anyone who serves in or is appointed to any government position panning them from advising or working for any company that advises or does business with the government for 5 years before and 10 years after serving. I would add to this end executive orders as legislation is supposed to start in the house. Let's also do away with presidential pardons.[/QUOTE]But if you banned all pvt donations the DNC would never win another election!!

Let's also do away with presidential pardons.

I'm all for it, (or only allow them in the first 30 days of his first term).

But where were you bitching about them when Scumbag Joe pardoned the Junkie and his whole Scumbag family, or the criminal J6 committee that tried to overthrow Democracy.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3006296][i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i]

Good heavens, yet another [b]clueless MAGA knucklehead,[/b] posting reams of non-related articles, that have NOTHING to do with the argument/discussion at hand!

May I suggest you go back and revisit the STARTING PREMISE of the "argument" and then figure out your NEXT STEPS, w/r to a proper post, related to this particular, who contributed more, Dems vs. Repub billionaire debate!

[b]PS: [/b]BTW, I just love the new addition of "STARS" to your blatant reams of COPY-N-PASTE posts, that the NY Times have implemented to detract from your overcompensating REAMS of plagiarism, when all you need is a simple LINK! [i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i][/QUOTE]When placed in context, it was obviously a good campaign rallying cry for more small money donors. And it worked!

In the 2024 election, 75% of donations came from small money donors for the Dems.

FACTS DO MATTER.

Don't believe anything this pathological LIAR types.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3006297]Illegal aliens may benefit the DNC puppeteers on Wall Street but they really really screw the poor, they steal their jobs, they drive down their wages, they steal their welfare benefits.

They drive up the cost of their housing clothing food etc.

They even make it harder for them to get their families in to see a Doctor or an appt for Dialysis etc etc etc.

They drive up crime (murder, rape, child molestations) in their neighborhoods and flood them with deadly narcotics etc etc.

I can go on for hours.

I know you've seen illegal Afrikans on Suk in BKK selling drugs and driving up crime there also.

Just like illegals do everywhere.[/QUOTE]Yeah, the "rule of law" Democrats are voicing their support for illegals. They do not even get what complete hypocrites they are with the law.

Guys like Tooms literally have no morals. You could murder a hundred people but as long as you vote Democrat, he thinks that you are moral.

It is like the BLM founders. First thing they do is move out of the hood when they get money. The largest and most supportive group the Dems have are divorced and widowed older suburban women AKA the cat ladies. These are the people who go on about white privilege and how horrible blacks have it but are the first ones to move out of a neighborhood if ghetto type blacks move into it.

And here we have Loony Tooms living in Thailand lecturing about illegals. Gee, Tooms, why don't you show your patriotism and come back and move into Salvadoran gang territory or the regions Somalis rule? Hmm. Then tell us how great they are and how lucky we are to have them.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3006420]I agree with most of what you wrote. I think what you do not get Goatscrot is how many laws are made by bureaucrats and unelected judges. Yes, ideally, Congress should make all the laws. In reality, at least executive orders are signed into law by someone who was elected. Well, maybe that was not the case with Biden who probably could not hold a pen, but at least it was true with Trump and Obama. The problem with the Biden administration that everyone is admitting now is that the person elected as president was not making the decisions on executive orders.

And yes, presidential pardons have been corrupted, but they are an important safety valve for when the judicial system screws up.

But everything else you said, I agree with 1000%.[/QUOTE]Needs to be voided and I'm guessing the SCOTUS will agree.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3006415]I quote IRS data and you quote a bunch of liberal hack sites manipulating data.

Let's keep this simple. Who raised more money, Trump or Harris? Harris. By a long shot.

Who won the election? Trump.

And your response? Trump is in the pocket of the rich. Here is a novel idea, Spidy. Maybe your party lost because your party lied so fucking much and you are doing it again with this small donor bullshit.

[URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/11/04/trump-vs-harris-fundraising-race-harris-outraised-trump-3-to-1-with-last-pre-election-report/[/URL]

The Bidennow Harriscampaign committee raised $997.2 million and Trump's campaign committee raised $388 million in total between Jan. 2023 and Oct. 16,2024, the most recent date for which Federal Election Commission filings are available, ending with $118 million and $36.2 million in cash on hand, respectively.

And you keep the lies up. We Democrats are the party of the poor. Give me a fucking break. Your party raised way more money in 2024, tried to buy the election, and lost. And Loony Tooms blames the loss on Muslims and now you try to blame it on billionaires. How pathetic are you people?

You were wrong about the election and you are wrong about why you lost. The rich and powerful in your party jettisoned Biden who won the primary and nominated the weakest fucking candidate I have ever seen in a presidential election.

And you know why Kamla was selected? The real reason Kamala was selected was TOTALLY due to money. If anyone other than the VP replaced Biden, all the money Biden raised would have to be sent back to donors.

But yeah, I have no doubt that you think you are right about everything, Mr. Facts.[/QUOTE]Never forget that Scumbags Nancy Carville Clooney and Barry conspired and threatened Scumbag Joe to drop out or else.

He did and he was so pissed he handed Bird Brain the nomination as quickly as possible as a VERY nice Fuck You to the Scumbags above.

He knew she was the weakest possible candidate on the planet and this would be his revenge for being booted off the ballot.

They rigged the election for scumbag Joe over Our Lord and Savior in 2020.

[URL]https://amgreatness.com/2021/10/31/how-the-2020-election-was-rigged/[/URL]

And they wanted to rig it again for someone else because nobody believed he won in 2020.

If they rigged it again for him they might of actually triggered Civil War 2. 0.

Scumbag Joe wasn't going for it, so he just helped rightfully hand it right back to Our Lord and Savior.

Allahu Akbar MOFOS!

The full text of Trump's humiliating whine about his ass being handed to him by Xi and China for the umpteenth time in the past and current 4. 4 years of a Trump's Pandemic Presidency, see screenshot below, is hilarious!

[B]Trump claims China 'totally violated' trade agreement with US.
U.S. stocks fell slightly in early trading after the comments from Trump.
May 30, 2025[/B]

[URL]https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-claims-china-totally-violated-trade-agreement-us/story?id=122342782[/URL]

BTW, did anybody else catch that President Musk send off from the Oval Office hosted by "Two Weeks" TACO Trump earlier? Lolol.

We can only conclude that President Musk is every bit as stupid, uninformed, a blatantly obvious liar or All of the Above as his now former assistant Donald J. Trump because he just nodded along while the usual fire hose flood of Gish Gallop lies came gushing out of his mouth.

A very, very short list of examples included in, no exaggeration, every sentence that he uttered:

Oh, did you know that Trump's previous 4 years as so-called president were "the greatest economy in history"? Really. ALL 4 years, 2017 thru 2020. Not counting the Trillions he added to the deficit with his one and only economic "stimulus" bill he passed only to produce a million FEWER jobs with it than without it in the 3 years prior to his wiping out millions upon millions of jobs thanks to his Trump's Pandemic, his driving American farmers and the manufacturing industry into Recessions so deep he had to issue emergency welfare checks just to keep them afloat but still could not save the global customers for their product that are likely lost forever thanks to his first failed tariff and trade war with China, the record high skyrocketing of the deficit in every year he was in office improving his golf scorecard cheating skills, the two (2) Bear Market declines in the broad USA Stock market, etc, of course.

Oh, and did you know Trump left office last time with "No Wars" going on? Really. Never mind that the USA Military Directly-involved Combat War in Afghanistan raged on for every hour of every day of his so-called presidency and continued beyond the point where he "left office" and the fact that he lead his America-hating "patriots" into bloody battle on American soil in his War Against America and American Democracy on his way out the door. Those don't count. Lolol.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3005037][b]I think[/b] France support more Ukraine and Palestinians than...[/QUOTE] Okay that nice!...That YOU think that, but please provide the links, articles or FACTS to support your argument, even if those links are to French web pages!

NOW that would be nice...to see REAL FACTS, from YOU, for a change. That way you don't sound and read like Elvis 2008 [i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3006420]I agree with most of what you wrote. I think what you do not get Goatscrot is how many laws are made by bureaucrats and unelected judges. Yes, ideally, Congress should make all the laws. In reality, at least executive orders are signed into law by someone who was elected. Well, maybe that was not the case with Biden who probably could not hold a pen, but at least it was true with Trump and Obama. The problem with the Biden administration that everyone is admitting now is that the person elected as president was not making the decisions on executive orders.

And yes, presidential pardons have been corrupted, but they are an important safety valve for when the judicial system screws up.

But everything else you said, I agree with 1000%.[/QUOTE]I have a bit different take. In many ways I'm much more trusting of non-elected bureaucrats than I am of elected officials. Unfortunately it seems either way, elected or appointed we have a poor judiciary that is heavily influenced by money and corruption. And did you dictionary has undermined the true idea of trial by jury, meaning if it jury sees that a law is unjust they can vote to acquit.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3006522]Okay that nice!...That YOU think that, but please provide the links, articles or FACTS to support your argument, even if those links are to French web pages!

NOW that would be nice...to see REAL FACTS, from YOU, for a change. That way you don't sound and read like Elvis 2008 [i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i][/QUOTE]Ask Ukrainians how they feel supported, how they trust your liar, robber Trump, when Europe which gave same money, don t try to rob Ukraine and your shameful Trump is stronger for bullshiting and sucking criminal Putin than stopping war in one day. Maybe he plans to fly with Islamist Qatar plane to play golf in Gaza, among women and children killed by criminal Netanyahou. USA are falling really down, for real fact seen by our world, except Trump criminal friends.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;3006528]I have a bit different take. In many ways I'm much more trusting of non-elected bureaucrats than I am of elected officials. Unfortunately it seems either way, elected or appointed we have a poor judiciary that is heavily influenced by money and corruption. And did you dictionary has undermined the true idea of trial by jury, meaning if it jury sees that a law is unjust they can vote to acquit.[/QUOTE]Because conversely if the jury doesn't like the accused even though its obvious they aren't guilty they can still vote to convict.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3006297]Illegal aliens may benefit the DNC puppeteers on Wall Street but they really really screw the poor, they steal their jobs, they drive down their wages, they steal their welfare benefits.

They drive up the cost of their housing clothing food etc.

They even make it harder for them to get their families in to see a Doctor or an appt for Dialysis etc etc etc.

They drive up crime (murder, rape, child molestations) in their neighborhoods and flood them with deadly narcotics etc etc.

I can go on for hours.

I know you've seen illegal Afrikans on Suk in BKK selling drugs and driving up crime there also.

Just like illegals do everywhere.[/QUOTE]Bush actually understood. Can't believe I'm saying I actually miss him. Totally rational policies compared to the orange stain.

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/reel/DI2QjLGOwXD/?igsh=dGp6NnAxc2lyM2dm[/URL]

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;3006295]How do you clean things up? Well, it's easy but it'll never happen.

Make all private campaign contributions illegal. Disband PACs and super PACs, have a short election cycle, term limits, and pass a law preventing anyone who serves in or is appointed to any government position panning them from advising or working for any company that advises or does business with the government for 5 years before and 10 years after serving. I would add to this end executive orders as legislation is supposed to start in the house. Let's also do away with presidential pardons.[/QUOTE] You'll get no argument, from me either!

But I would like to point out that, it is yet another deliberate, but insidious and prejudicial scheme, by a Repub party and Republican conservative SCOTUS, to corrupt American elections, gov't and politics, by allowing [b]yet another wild Repub authoritarian/fascist fantasy,[/b] to run-a-muck, footloose, fancy-free and more-or-less become, very unaccountable.

Then, it was sanctioned legal bribery, in the name of [b]"campaign finances."[/b]

Today, we see the most recent incarnation, the Repub conservative SCOTUS MAGA 6, has essentially granted the latest Repub authoritarian/fascist "wet-dream" fantasy, of "KINGship", to the charlatan, pussy-grabbing president and wanna be dictator.

This is the perverted, "wet-dream" fantasies, Repubs see as their idea of, abiding by the constitution, the "rule of law" and an equal, fair and just "democracy".

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;3006543]Bush actually understood. Can't believe I'm saying I actually miss him. Totally rational policies compared to the orange stain.

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/reel/DI2QjLGOwXD/?igsh=dGp6NnAxc2lyM2dm[/URL][/QUOTE]I really wish I could candidly write what I feel about that worthless piece of shit and you quoting him but it would probably get my acct suspended.

I will just say, if you agree with that clip, you are a pathetic moron just like him!!

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=10156046834215725[/URL]

I'm sure you like DICK Cheney too.

You just make it so obvious, posters that are expats in the land of the CCP.

Live there because they hate America and Americans and anything good for it, and only want the best for the CCP.

You are a bunch of traitors that belong in prison for giving Aid and Comfort to the enemy (and God only knows what else).

I'm starting to think you're a troll just like Spidy.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;3006528]I have a bit different take. In many ways I'm much more trusting of non-elected bureaucrats than I am of elected officials. Unfortunately it seems either way, elected or appointed we have a poor judiciary that is heavily influenced by money and corruption. And did you dictionary has undermined the true idea of trial by jury, meaning if it jury sees that a law is unjust they can vote to acquit.[/QUOTE]Elvis 2008 is completely wrong and simply does not understand how the government works. Executive Orders are not law. Regulations are not laws. Even laws can be challenged in court.

[U]Example[/U]

Nine years ago a police man killed a unarmed black man point blank. He was cleared for his actions. He was sued civilly and won. He won in the appeals court. But in a 9-0 ruling the Supreme Court said that precedent that was used by both the district court and the appeals court was wrong. They expanded the scope of evidence that could be used when making the judgement on his actions civilly.

The Supreme Court expanded the protections for my fellow Americans under the 4th Amendment. It was a great day for the United States of America. The courts are the only part of government that still makes me proud.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3006561]I really wish I could candidly write what I feel about that worthless piece of shit and you quoting him but it would probably get my acct suspended.

I will just say, if you agree with that clip, you are a pathetic moron just like him!!

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=10156046834215725[/URL]

I'm sure you like DICK Cheney too.

You just make it so obvious, posters that are expats in the land of the CCP.

Live there because they hate America and Americans and anything good for it, and only want the best for the CCP.

You are a bunch of traitors that belong in prison for giving Aid and Comfort to the enemy (and God only knows what else).

I'm starting to think you're a troll just like Spidy.[/QUOTE]Dude, I've lived in Bangkok for 25 years. Let me put it this way, the only two things I ever liked about the Republican party was an incredibly strong military able to project power and scare the hell out of every other military and free trade. That's completely gone. But I have to admit did agree with George W on immigration. China? Fantastic for infrastructure but when it comes to personal freedom not a great place.

Enemy? Well I consider what Donald Trump is doing towards our allies to be just about his traitorous as they come. Not to mention pardoning the traders who tried to take over the Capitol building on Jan 6.

And when you talk about the democrats? I'm not a fan of them either. Focusing on identity politics as opposed to left-leaning economic ideals. The Democrats have been every bit as neoliberal as the Republican since the defeat of Dukakis in 88. Want to know what I think we should do? Take a look at FDR's second Bill of Rights speech. That's a good start.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3006518]The full text of Trump's humiliating whine about his ass being handed to him by Xi and China for the umpteenth time in the past and current 4. 4 years of a Trump's Pandemic Presidency, see screenshot below, is hilarious!

[B]Trump claims China 'totally violated' trade agreement with US.
U.S. stocks fell slightly in early trading after the comments from Trump.
May 30, 2025[/B]

[URL]https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-claims-china-totally-violated-trade-agreement-us/story?id=122342782[/URL]

BTW, did anybody else catch that President Musk send off from the Oval Office hosted by "Two Weeks" TACO Trump earlier? Lolol.

We can only conclude that President Musk is every bit as stupid, uninformed, a blatantly obvious liar or All of the Above as his now former assistant Donald J. Trump because he just nodded along while the usual fire hose flood of Gish Gallop lies came gushing out of his mouth..[/QUOTE]TACO Trump thinks world is one of his casinos. You elected a stupid senile. I think he will make fall USA, then maybe Americans will understand, when they didn't understand on first time and January 2021, but ask to be fucked twice, or maybe they enjoy to be fucked?

Republican Haters seem like they would rather start a hot civil war in order to cast out of Dis-United States of American all those who do not agree with their view point.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3006561]You just make it so obvious, posters that are expats in the land of the CCP. Live there because they hate America and Americans and anything good for it, and only want the best for the CCP. You are a bunch of traitors that belong in prison for giving Aid and Comfort to the enemy (and God only knows what else).[/QUOTE]Instead to coming together in order to solve the problems that are in the Dis-United States of America currently they want to call all of those who they disagree Un-American. Right here in the forum they have used words to describe those who disagree with them as:

[B]Parasites, Dirt Bags, Unpatriotic, Douches[/B]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3006136]Nah, when the parasite SC was hired, the TSA did not exist.The parasites have no respect for taxpayers. They have no respect for their country. They live abroad and all they care about is they get more from us.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3006078]Dirtbag SC worked for TSA lololol.
The ability to purge the agency from DEI scum like SC lolololololol.
I fly all the time and I want to be safe and don't want trash like that having any hand in my safety![/QUOTE]They call individuals such as Air Traffic controllers lazy, wasteful and redundant. Their hate knows no bounds. As if somehow if they pay NO TAXES everything in the Dis-United States of America will get better. Taxes are the price we pay for civil society. Unfortunately Republican Haters are anything but.

For one brief moment Wall Street thought Trump's huge tax increase on the American Consumers and total reversal of The Envy of the World Economy he inherited from Biden-Harris had been thwarted by a unanimous ruling by the bi-partisan Trade Court Justices that anybody who thought he could get away with that scam was full of shit.

Then the Appeals Court ruling to pause the blocking of his economy-destroying Tariffs, as expected, threw those hopes into doubt.

Of course, Trump's attorneys had to stipulate, in writing, that the price of that momentary pause would be their promise, again in writing, to refund all of the illegal Trump Tariffs Taxes that American businesses have had to pay up to now and all during the pause if / when they lose the Appeal. With interest. Thereby confirming, in writing, that, sure enough, American businesses and American Consumers were and are the ones paying those Trump Tariffs Taxes, that their client, Trump, knew it all along and any suggestion otherwise was simply Trump being the America-hating con man liar the World knows him to be.

However, even if / when the Appeal gets reversed, Trump's policies and stewardship have already built-in enough harm to the American Businesses. American Consumers, American Families and so on to rip them off to the tune of almost $1,000 per year if not more. Much more:

[B]Trump tariffs still 'pinch' consumers even if trade court block holds: economist.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/30/what-a-federal-trade-court-block-on-trump-tariffs-means-for-consumers.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

See, what everyone knew in that one brief moment was the sooner we get back to the historically strong Bidenomics trajectories Trump inherited from Biden-Harris and away from the blithering, blathering lunatic incoherence of Trump, the better it will be for America and the American people.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;3006621]Dude, I've lived in Bangkok for 25 years.[/QUOTE]Well, that explains a lot.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;3006621]Let me put it this way, the only two things I ever liked about the Republican party was an incredibly strong military able to project power and scare the hell out of every other military and free trade.[/QUOTE]Yeah, well you like a strong USA military when you live abroad. Unlike the rest of us who live here, all we care about is the homeland being protected. It was different when the USA was getting 70% of its energy from abroad. Now we are an energy exporter.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;3006621]Well I consider what Donald Trump is doing towards our allies to be just about his traitorous as they come.[/QUOTE]Europe and Japan are and were dependent on foreign crude as well. In that world, they were our allies. In this world, they are our business competitors. We pay for their defense and they take money they should be spending for their defense and pay for their social programs. Trump has looked at that and concluded it is a ripoff. Seeing how you live abroad, you have a different value system than those of us who live in the USA. You want the USA military to be protecting you.

What you see as treasonous, I see the other way around. Why are we paying for the defense of our "allies" and the world? It no longer benefits us. We are giving our business competitors a leg up. Spending money on foreigners and not Americans is what I see as treasonous.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;3006621]Not to mention pardoning the traders who tried to take over the Capitol building on Jan 6.[/QUOTE]That again? Biden allegedly got more black votes than Obama. Harris got 75 million votes in 2024. Biden got 81.2 million in 2020 in the middle of a fucking pandemic and in 2024, this was after Biden opened the door to all these illegals to vote Democrat, tens of millions more. Not defending our borders is an act of treason. Trump got 2 million more votes in 2024 than 2020, so all these alleged Biden voters did not switch sides.

The lab leak being the cause of the pandemic was suppressed. There was a literal conspiracy among the intelligence agencies and the media about the Hunter Biden laptop. Shit, we still got Loony Tooms here calling it Trump's pandemic versus the China pandemic and Spidy's throat is sore given how many blowjobs he has given the CCCP. The polls were complete bullshit as they always have been when Trump runs. Biden's health was being lied about. And no one was put under oath about rigging an election as the judges wisely did not want to here dick about their needing to overturn an election, and the Dems are like, "You see the judges are on our side. " which was complete bullshit.

I disagree with the tactics on January 6 but the people were patriots not traitors. If you are going to call the January 6 marchers traitors, then you better come up with where these 6 million more votes came from. The Democratic douche answer is I do not know. Well, that is not good enough. If the Democratic douches were really interested in the truth, they would be demanding that this be looked into. They have not. What does that tell you?

We Republicans do not need this investigated. We know what fucking happened. Like I said, the January 6 marchers were patriots, and I get their passion, but the goal should have been learning how the Democrats cheated and not letting them do it again which is ultimately what happened. I am not going to condemn people marching on Washington in an election that was so obviously rigged. Yes, a few were violent or thieves, and there is no excusing that. But arresting those who just showed up after being let in which was almost all of them? Give me a fucking break!

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;3006621]The Democrats have been every bit as neoliberal as the Republican since the defeat of Dukakis in 88.[/QUOTE]You mean the neocons made up of Eastern European Jews who want Muslims and Christians dead? They dominated Republican foreign policy when Bush was president and when Republicans learned what they were really up to, they were tuned out. Now they have taken over the foreign policy of the Democratic party and the results have been just as bad, millions more Muslims and Christians dead.

When you really get down to it, a president is limited with much of what he can do, Probably his greatest power is the military. No, Trump has not done all he said he was going to, but no one expected him to. The difference with regards to war with Biden and Trump is where there is a completely different and refreshing change.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3006660]Well, that explains a lot.

Yeah, well you like a strong USA military when you live abroad. Unlike the rest of us who live here, all we care about is the homeland being protected. It was different when the USA was getting 70% of its energy from abroad. Now we are an energy exporter.

Europe and Japan are and were dependent on foreign crude as well. In that world, they were our allies. In this world, they are our business competitors. We pay for their defense and they take money they should be spending for their defense and pay for their social programs. Trump has looked at that and concluded it is a ripoff. Seeing how you live abroad, you have a different value system than those of us who live in the USA. You want the USA military to be protecting you.

What you see as treasonous, I see the other way around. Why are we paying for the defense of our "allies" and the world? It no longer benefits us. We are giving our business competitors a leg up. Spending money on foreigners and not Americans is what I see as treasonous.

That again? Biden allegedly got more black votes than Obama. Harris got 75 million votes in 2024. Biden got 81.2 million in 2020 in the middle of a fucking pandemic and in 2024, this was after Biden opened the door to all these illegals to vote Democrat, tens of millions more. Not defending our borders is an act of treason. Trump got 2 million more votes in 2024 than 2020, so all these alleged Biden voters did not switch sides..[/QUOTE]Yes we pay the Pentagon 1+ trillion per year to protect them Canada Europe Japan et al.

And then they cheat us on trade with a 1+ trillion dollar trade deficit.

That's 2 trillion per year, not to mention everything else, they strong arm US pharmaceutical companies to give them very low prices.

How much is USAIDs budget? At least 50 billion.

Then they call the US a bully and RIP off our IP etc.

Trump says this is bullshit and unacceptable and this fool says hes traitorous, WTF?

Most govt budget calculations are done for the 10 year timeline.

So 1 trillion plus for free policing for them.

1 trillion plus trade deficit, and 50 billion for USAID.

That's $20,500,000,000 free money for them out of our treasury (20.5 trillion).

And with the blood of our young soldiers.

They are freeloaders off our Blood Sweat and Tears.

But that's the leftist way.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3006660]Europe and Japan are and were dependent on foreign crude as well. In that world, they were our allies. In this world, they are our business competitors. We pay for their defense and they take money they should be spending for their defense and pay for their social programs. Trump has looked at that and concluded it is a ripoff. [/QUOTE][QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3006702]Yes we pay the Pentagon 1+ trillion per year to protect them Canada Europe Japan et al.[/QUOTE]After World War II that is how the Dis-United States America wanted it. The Dis-United States of America wrote the constitution for Japan. They put military handcuffs on them. Japan is a warrior nation who is number 2 in knowledge of blue water naval operations.

[B]Now this POTUS want to pivot on that policy[/B] Actually with the Dis-United States of America falling behind in raw naval tonnage at sea it would be wise for the Dis-United States of America to take the handcuffs off of Japan and release the dogs of war. The Japanese would be up and running in NO TIME with fully modern blue water navy that would have the rest of the world with water dripping from their knees if they decided to [I]hard in the mother fucking paint[/I]!

[B]War is Good for business![/B]

I like to travel. So I need a strong passport. The US Military does not factor into my decision to live outside of the Dis-United States of America. If you read the [U]Declaration of Independence[/U] it is about the [I]pursuit of happiness[/I].

[B]It should be noted that I do not live in Thailand[/B]

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3006702]Yes we pay the Pentagon 1+ trillion per year to protect them Canada Europe Japan et al.

And then they cheat us on trade with a 1+ trillion dollar trade deficit.

That's 2 trillion per year, not to mention everything else, they strong arm US pharmaceutical companies to give them very low prices.

How much is USAIDs budget? At least 50 billion.

Then they call the US a bully and RIP off our IP etc.

Trump says this is bullshit and unacceptable and this fool says hes traitorous, WTF?

Most govt budget calculations are done for the 10 year timeline.

So 1 trillion plus for free policing for them..[/QUOTE]$20,500,000,000,000.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3006660]Well, that explains a lot.

Yeah, well you like a strong USA military when you live abroad. Unlike the rest of us who live here, all we care about is the homeland being protected. It was different when the USA was getting 70% of its energy from abroad. Now we are an energy exporter.

Europe and Japan are and were dependent on foreign crude as well. In that world, they were our allies. In this world, they are our business competitors. We pay for their defense and they take money they should be spending for their defense and pay for their social programs. Trump has looked at that and concluded it is a ripoff. Seeing how you live abroad, you have a different value system than those of us who live in the USA. You want the USA military to be protecting you.[/QUOTE]Very well stated Sir, I am contacting the Nobel committee to nominate you at once.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;3006621]Dude, I've lived in Bangkok for 25 years. Let me put it this way, the only two things I ever liked about the Republican party was an incredibly strong military able to project power and scare the hell out of every other military and free trade. That's completely gone. But I have to admit did agree with George W on immigration. China? Fantastic for infrastructure but when it comes to personal freedom not a great place.

Enemy? Well I consider what Donald Trump is doing towards our allies to be just about his traitorous as they come. Not to mention pardoning the traders who tried to take over the Capitol building on Jan 6.

And when you talk about the democrats? I'm not a fan of them either. Focusing on identity politics as opposed to left-leaning economic ideals. The Democrats have been every bit as neoliberal as the Republican since the defeat of Dukakis in 88. Want to know what I think we should do? Take a look at FDR's second Bill of Rights speech. That's a good start.[/QUOTE]The Democrats have been every bit as neoliberal as the Republican since the defeat of Dukakis in 88.

Yes indeed Scumbag Bubba tried his damnedest to destroy the USA for a few shekels!! He set in motion many of the issues of major today.

And I would be remiss if I didn't hold Scumbag Ronnie to account as well, with his amnesty of illegals in 86.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3006660]Well, that explains a lot.

Yeah, well you like a strong USA military when you live abroad. Unlike the rest of us who live here, all we care about is the homeland being protected. It was different when the USA was getting 70% of its energy from abroad. Now we are an energy exporter.

Europe and Japan are and were dependent on foreign crude as well. In that world, they were our allies. In this world, they are our business competitors. We pay for their defense and they take money they should be spending for their defense and pay for their social programs. Trump has looked at that and concluded it is a ripoff. Seeing how you live abroad, you have a different value system than those of us who live in the USA. You want the USA military to be protecting you.

What you see as treasonous, I see the other way around. Why are we paying for the defense of our "allies" and the world? It no longer benefits us. We are giving our business competitors a leg up. Spending money on foreigners and not Americans is what I see as treasonous.

That again? Biden allegedly got more black votes than Obama. Harris got 75 million votes in 2024. Biden got 81.2 million in 2020 in the middle of a fucking pandemic and in 2024, this was after Biden opened the door to all these illegals to vote Democrat, tens of millions more. Not defending our borders is an act of treason. Trump got 2 million more votes in 2024 than 2020, so all these alleged Biden voters did not switch sides.

The lab leak being the cause of the pandemic was suppressed. There was a literal conspiracy among the intelligence agencies and the media about the Hunter Biden laptop. Shit, we still got Loony Tooms here calling it Trump's pandemic versus the China pandemic and Spidy's throat is sore given how many blowjobs he has given the CCCP. The polls were complete bullshit as they always have been when Trump runs. Biden's health was being lied about. And no one was put under oath about rigging an election as the judges wisely did not want to here dick about their needing to overturn an election, and the Dems are like, "You see the judges are on our side. " which was complete bullshit.

I disagree with the tactics on January 6 but the people were patriots not traitors. If you are going to call the January 6 marchers traitors, then you better come up with where these 6 million more votes came from. The Democratic douche answer is I do not know. Well, that is not good enough. If the Democratic douches were really interested in the truth, they would be demanding that this be looked into. They have not. What does that tell you?

We Republicans do not need this investigated. We know what fucking happened. Like I said, the January 6 marchers were patriots, and I get their passion, but the goal should have been learning how the Democrats cheated and not letting them do it again which is ultimately what happened. I am not going to condemn people marching on Washington in an election that was so obviously rigged. Yes, a few were violent or thieves, and there is no excusing that. But arresting those who just showed up after being let in which was almost all of them? Give me a fucking break!

You mean the neocons made up of Eastern European Jews who want Muslims and Christians dead? They dominated Republican foreign policy when Bush was president and when Republicans learned what they were really up to, they were tuned out. Now they have taken over the foreign policy of the Democratic party and the results have been just as bad, millions more Muslims and Christians dead.

When you really get down to it, a president is limited with much of what he can do, Probably his greatest power is the military. No, Trump has not done all he said he was going to, but no one expected him to. The difference with regards to war with Biden and Trump is where there is a completely different and refreshing change.[/QUOTE]They should be awarded Congressional Medals of Honor for defending Democracy with their lives against the forces of EVIL (Zuckerburg Bezos Gates et al), many were unjustly sent to prison and.

They need to be compensated for their sacrifices.

[B]I swapped my Tesla for a BYD[/B]

[URL]https://www.businessinsider.com/byd-sealion-7-i-swapped-my-tesla-for-a-byd-2025-5[/URL]

[B]I swapped my gas truck for a BYD Shark[/B]

[URL]https://www.businessinsider.com/swapped-gas-truck-for-hybrid-byd-shark-2025-5[/URL]

Patriotism does not pay the rent. Just because I vote with my dollars to buy Chinese made products does not make me a traitor.

Here is an idea. Maybe we should vote with our dollars. When it is time to elect people we simply allow all real people (no corporations) to make a non-deductible contribution to the National Debt. The candidate that gets the most dollars contributed in their behalf wins.

[B]Now, that's an idea![/B]

Elvis, though we have every right to be anonymous on this board, I'm afraid I feel behoven to expose your identity. You sir are the Professor of Whataboutery at the Institute of Advanced whataboutery. [URL]www.whatboutery.edu/profElvis[/URL].

And while I acknowledge your academic accomplishments, you are nonetheless logically fallacious in your reasoning because whataboutery doesn't negate counterarguments.

I've actually never denied the substantial issues that China faces, but the bottom line is you're positing that US is doing just fine, and that this batshit president of yours is making all the right calls. None of this bears any resemblance to reality. I'm not going to rehash all the points I have made about the deep structural issues facing America, but you are where you are. I'm not a Democrat and that senile predecessor of your batshit President has without doubt contributed to America's mess (10 trillions worth of debt) but you are where you are. Taxing Americans to buy overseas items and then reducing the tax rates is insanity. It's like me realising my mortgage has gone up and saying to the family, we're going to solve this by buying more expensive stuff and me going off work so we have less income. It makes no sense at all. You don't have to be a credit rating agency, the last of which hadn't but has now downgraded American debt, to realise how dumb this is.

Oh, and as for the onshoring works of fiction- sure, they will talk the talk to appease your tyrannical president- and there may be a little loose change here or there but what you want simply is impossible: [URL]https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNdBhyfBr/[/URL].

This is an example of the complexity of the supply chain involved in design some of the world's most complex chips- you have dutch companies designing and building the machines which then make the chips in Taiwan based on Nvidia's designs and which are then built up into final products using China's Foxconn. Each of these steps is incredibly sophisticated and it cannot be replicated. ASML is unassailable, as is TSMC. There's not 10 others who can do what they can do, as tbf is Nvidia. The point is that this is evidential of Ricardian economics. You do what you do best, I do what I do best, and trade works out best for both of us. YOU CANNOT ONSHORE THESE THINGS. Hell, you even makes the MAGA caps overseas (insert rotflmao emoji) and somehow you want me to believe you're going to onshore ASML and TSMC (roll eyes).

This batshit President has made a bad situation worse and things are looking terrible for America now. I'm not going to dignify the following statement with a response: "That assumes 0% return on your savings rate, which it is not, and that makes your analysis meaningless. " but you are too smart to not reflect upon this.

"When you explain to me to property rights, the credit system, the real debt China has, the real estate market, how China restricts trading in foreign currencies, and the demographic decline, get back to me. There is nothing new you are bringing to the table. I heard the same shit about Japan in the early 80's and 90's and have heard the gold bug shit about America's decline for decades as well. Japan was a way more formidable competitor than China ever was, and you have not explained why the projections about Japan taking over the world were wrong. ".

You are wrong- Japan never was as formidable as China is. It just seemed to you at the time, because at the time the west was inexperienced with any other nation outside the west challenging their supremacy. Japan never had the military supremacy that China does- did you hear about the French Rafael's that the Chinese J10's blew out of the sky? India tried concealing the truth but they've admitted it now. The whole world's is looking at the superiority of Chinese weaponary and even America is no longer complacent. Japan made great products but it never rivalled the west to the extent and breadth and nature of these as China does- the proof is in the fact that you need these tariffs to ward off the Chinese. Even Musk said that Tesla would be wiped out if free trade were permitted on Chinese cars.

Let's say just for the sake of argument that you're right about China's upcoming stagnation (even though it's America the one which is stagnating and recessioning). It still won't matter. Do you know why? Because we don't need future projections to show how America's might is receded and China's extended. Because the future is happening in the now. Right now as we speak China continues to extend it's influence on the world stage economically, militarily and through soft power- the latter through the stupid policies of your batshit President who to save a few cents on USAID etc and give them back to the rich through tax cuts has withdrawn from the world stage. The extent of respect that people have for America outside America has diminished tremendously and continues to decline. The extent of respect that the world has for China (or its money and influence) continues to ascend.

Wake up and smell the coffee, my man. If not in 10 -20 years when asked "how did America become eclipsed by China" we will look back and respond with Hemingway's aphorism: " Gradually and then suddenly".

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3004670]Dude, you just blew off the entire Chinese credit issue outside of agreeing with me. You then list all the problems the USA had and blow off all the issues China has. American banks were forced to write down real estate in 2008 and 2009. China HAS NOT DONE THAT WRITE DOWN. You have missed China printed like crazy with Covid and has done so in this recent trade war as well.

That assumes 0% return on your savings rate, which it is not, and that makes your analysis meaningless.

And what about underlying assets and asset appreciation? That is nowhere to be found either. There is no discussion on rule of law and property protection either. What good are savings when the government can take them whenever they want?

These two paragraphs completely blow your argument out of the water, [URL]https://www.hinrichfoundation.com/research/article/us-china/why-china-is-in-a-massive-consumption-slump/[/URL].

In the case of China "property income" for the household sector in 2019 and 2020 was around 4. 5% of GDP, and closer to 3% of GDP on a net basis. In contrast, in the US, this number was about 15% of GDP. This reflects the higher returns on US financial and real assets. It is worth considering here the penchant China's middle class has for sitting on vacant apartments and the amount of household net worth tied up in such vacant property; the low dividend payout ratios for listed Chinese companies; and, perhaps most importantly, the low bank interest rates paid to depositors and the lack of alternative avenues for revenue generation.

In other words, China's high savings suffer from financial repression: capital controls force them to maintain their savings onshore and a state-owned financial intermediation industry pays them a poor return on their savings. This in turn reduces household income and therefore curtails their ability to spend. The Chinese saver has therefore been made by policy to finance huge government-driven investments, which are earning increasingly low returns.

Trump was just accelerating a trend of moving some production away from China to the USA that was happening post-Covid. Your analysis is entirely cost driven and does not account for the reliability of a supply chain. That is why the supply chain is and was moving out of China even before Trump, and it never was all going to the USA.

When you explain to me to property rights, the credit system, the real debt China has, the real estate market, how China restricts trading in foreign currencies, and the demographic decline, get back to me. There is nothing new you are bringing to the table. I heard the same shit about Japan in the early 80's and 90's and have heard the gold bug shit about America's decline for decades as well. Japan was a way more formidable competitor than China ever was, and you have not explained why the projections about Japan taking over the world were wrong. Your opinion does not matter to me because it is not based on facts but a bunch of half-truths. All you do is list all the problems the USA has and ignore all the ones China has.[/QUOTE]

Yes, wars were always good for USA business, maybe why shameful Trump is only bulshiting about Ukraine and Palestinians, but selling weapons and asking twice money. And accepting Islamists helping terrorists Qatar plane.

[QUOTE=HotDog666;3006844]Elvis, though we have every right to be anonymous on this board, I'm afraid I feel behoven to expose your identity. You sir are the Professor of Whataboutery at the Institute of Advanced whataboutery. [URL]www.whatboutery.edu/profElvis[/URL].

And while I acknowledge your academic accomplishments, you are nonetheless logically fallacious in your reasoning because whataboutery doesn't negate counterarguments.

I've actually never denied the substantial issues that China faces, but the bottom line is you're positing that US is doing just fine, and that this batshit president of yours is making all the right calls. None of this bears any resemblance to reality. I'm not going to rehash all the points I have made about the deep structural issues facing America, but you are where you are. I'm not a Democrat and that senile predecessor of your batshit President has without doubt contributed to America's mess (10 trillions worth of debt) but you are where you are. Taxing Americans to buy overseas items and then reducing the tax rates is insanity. It's like me realising my mortgage has gone up and saying to the family, we're going to solve this by buying more expensive stuff and me going off work so we have less income. It makes no sense at all. You don't have to be a credit rating agency, the last of which hadn't but has now downgraded American debt, to realise how dumb this is.

Oh, and as for the onshoring works of fiction- sure, they will talk the talk to appease your tyrannical president- and there may be a little loose change here or there but what you want simply is impossible: [URL]https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNdBhyfBr/[/URL].

This is an example of the complexity of the supply chain involved in design some of the world's most complex chips- you have dutch companies designing and building the machines which then make the chips in Taiwan based on Nvidia's designs and which are then built up into final products using China's Foxconn. Each of these steps is incredibly sophisticated and it cannot be replicated. ASML is unassailable, as is TSMC. There's not 10 others who can do what they can do, as tbf is Nvidia. The point is that this is evidential of Ricardian economics. You do what you do best, I do what I do best, and trade works out best for both of us. YOU CANNOT ONSHORE THESE THINGS. Hell, you even makes the MAGA caps overseas (insert rotflmao emoji) and somehow you want me to believe you're going to onshore ASML and TSMC (roll eyes).

This batshit President has made a bad situation worse and things are looking terrible for America now. I'm not going to dignify the following statement with a response: "That assumes 0% return on your savings rate, which it is not, and that makes your analysis meaningless. " but you are too smart to not reflect upon this.

"When you explain to me to property rights, the credit system, the real debt China has, the real estate market, how China restricts trading in foreign currencies, and the demographic decline, get back to me. There is nothing new you are bringing to the table. I heard the same shit about Japan in the early 80's and 90's and have heard the gold bug shit about America's decline for decades as well. Japan was a way more formidable competitor than China ever was, and you have not explained why the projections about Japan taking over the world were wrong. ".

You are wrong- Japan never was as formidable as China is. It just seemed to you at the time, because at the time the west was inexperienced with any other nation outside the west challenging their supremacy. Japan never had the military supremacy that China does- did you hear about the French Rafael's that the Chinese J10's blew out of the sky? India tried concealing the truth but they've admitted it now. The whole world's is looking at the superiority of Chinese weaponary and even America is no longer complacent. Japan made great products but it never rivalled the west to the extent and breadth and nature of these as China does- the proof is in the fact that you need these tariffs to ward off the Chinese. Even Musk said that Tesla would be wiped out if free trade were permitted on Chinese cars.

Let's say just for the sake of argument that you're right about China's upcoming stagnation (even though it's America the one which is stagnating and recessioning). It still won't matter. Do you know why? Because we don't need future projections to show how America's might is receded and China's extended. Because the future is happening in the now. Right now as we speak China continues to extend it's influence on the world stage economically, militarily and through soft power- the latter through the stupid policies of your batshit President who to save a few cents on USAID etc and give them back to the rich through tax cuts has withdrawn from the world stage. The extent of respect that people have for America outside America has diminished tremendously and continues to decline. The extent of respect that the world has for China (or its money and influence) continues to ascend.

Wake up and smell the coffee, my man. If not in 10 -20 years when asked "how did America become eclipsed by China" we will look back and respond with Hemingway's aphorism: " Gradually and then suddenly".[/QUOTE]They steal at least $600 billion in US IP each fucking year.

They send 300000 students not to study but to steal as much are&the as possible for the CCP.

They are international slave driving, thieves.

Stop buying their slave made products, cut off their IP theft and stolen are&the and they implode overnight!!

Hey Elvis click sum of these links!!

[URL]https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/us-economy-losing-much-600-billion-year-intellectual-property-chinese-espionage-210956[/URL]

[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-64206950[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnmuGikjRoI[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_TrgeW4ozk[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-vvLRnrXYM[/URL]

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/latin-america/2025/05/30/brazil-sues-chinese-ev-giant-byd-on-charges-of-human-trafficking-and-slavery/[/URL]

[URL]https://saisreview.sais.jhu.edu/how-chinas-political-system-discourages-innovation-and-encourages-ip-theft/[/URL]

[URL]https://foreignaffairs.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Egregious-Cases-of-Chinese-Theft-of-American-Intellectual-Property.pdf[/URL]

[URL]https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/investors-lawmakers-call-for-crackdown-on-ip-theft-amid-china-trade-war-intellectual-property-tariffs-retaliatory-kevin-oleary-thom-tillis-investors-markets-hackers-espionage[/URL]

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3006886]Yes, wars were always good for USA business, maybe why shameful Trump is only bulshiting about Ukraine and Palestinians, but selling weapons and asking twice money. And accepting Islamists helping terrorists Qatar plane.[/QUOTE]The idea that the USA's involvement in WWII "pulled us out of the Great Repub Depression" is a long-held precious myth. Not so. The economy and jobs creation was doing quite well in the years prior to December 7, 1941. There had been a mild pull back on the post-Great Repub Depression recovery in 1937 but it got back on track quickly by1938,1939, 1940 and 1941. If anything, the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor followed by Germany declaring War on us a couple of weeks later, requiring us to direct industrial production to the war effort, put FDR's much more economically viable projects on hold, among them his Interstate Highway plan. And, in fact, the USA suffered a sizable Recession DURING WWII.

GW Bush plunged us into TWO wars and his ecinomy was total crap.

Trump happily presided over the War in Afghanistan for every hour of every day of his 1st term so-called presidency and wound up producing The Worst Economic and Jobs Creation Results since Repub Herbert Hoover and the Great Repub Depression.

That includes the crap economic and jobs creation results in the 3 years prior to Trump's Pandemic where his one and only economic "stimulus" legislation added Trillions to the deficit while producing a Million FEWER jobs with it than without it, his first failed tariff and trade war with China plunging American farmers and the manufacturing industry into Recessions so deep he had to issue emergency welfare checks just to keep them afloat, we had a Bear Market decline in the broad USA Stock market even before his much deeper one during Trump's Pandemic, etc, etc, etc. Meanwhile, Repub GW Bush's War in Afghanistan raged on and on all through his first term, leaving the most difficult withdrawal part to Biden well after Trump left office, and it did not contribute one iota of positive economic data to mitigate Trump's disastrous 1st term economy.

So, if you are looking for a pattern in the economic boom times vs the historic downturns throughout American history, "Going to War" is not a factor in any boom times pattern.

However, the most predictable, reliable and consistent pattern for at least the past 100 years has been that economic boom times and historic jobs creation happen under Dem Presidents while Great Depressions, Great Recessions and historic jobs loses happen under Repub so-called presidents.

That has been a pattern you could have bet the farm on every time over the past 100 years or so and never lost it once.

[QUOTE=HotDog666;3006844]Elvis, though we have every right to be anonymous on this board, I'm afraid I feel behoven to expose your identity. You sir are the Professor of Whataboutery at the Institute of Advanced whataboutery.[/QUOTE]A personal putdown is not a good start.

[QUOTE=HotDog666;3006844]It's like me realising my mortgage has gone up and saying to the family, we're going to solve this by buying more expensive stuff and me going off work so we have less income. It makes no sense at all. Taxing Americans to buy overseas items and then reducing the tax rates is insanity.[/QUOTE]Trump is trying to make up for the lost federal income from tax reductions with tariffs. As for your notion that tariffs are going to mean higher prices, the PCE and CPI continue to trend lower and are around 2% just where the Fed wants them.

So the notion that tariffs mean higher prices, which you state as fact, is anything but. The fact is that Trump's tariffs have meant the USA collecting billions in tariffs without an increase in inflation.

[QUOTE=HotDog666;3006844]Each of these steps is incredibly sophisticated and it cannot be replicated. ASML is unassailable, as is TSMC.YOU CANNOT ONSHORE THESE THINGS. Hell, you even makes the MAGA caps overseas (insert rotflmao emoji) and somehow you want me to believe you're going to onshore ASML and TSMC (roll eyes).[/QUOTE]Sigh. 0 for 3.

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/24/asml-the-biggest-company-in-europe-youve-probably-never-heard-of.html[/URL]

ASML's lithography machines are primarily made at a facility in the Netherlands, but there's also a site in Connecticut where some modules are made.

Want to work at ASML? [URL]https://www.asml.com/en/careers/working-at-asml/united-states[/URL].

[URL]https://www.tsmc.com/static/abouttsmcaz/index.htm[/URL]

In 2020, TSMC chose Phoenix, Arizona, for its first advanced USA Semiconductor manufacturing site a milestone investment that has expanded from $12 billion to $165 billion representing the largest foreign direct investment in a greenfield project in American history.

[QUOTE=HotDog666;3006844]I'm not going to dignify the following statement with a response: "That assumes 0% return on your savings rate, which it is not, and that makes your analysis meaningless. " but you are too smart to not reflect upon this.[/QUOTE]Given that you are 0 for 3, I do not think dignity works as an excuse not to get up to bat.

[QUOTE=HotDog666;3006844]You are wrong- Japan never was as formidable as China is. It just seemed to you at the time, because at the time the west was inexperienced with any other nation outside the west challenging their supremacy. Japan never had the military supremacy that China does- did you hear about the French Rafael's that the Chinese J10's blew out of the sky?[/QUOTE]Now it is 0 for 4. Japan is very limited in weapons development by law. [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Self-Defense_Forces[/URL].

Most famously, Article 9 of the Japanese Constitution explicitly disavows war as an instrument of state policy and promises that Japan will never maintain a military as well as other war potential.

[QUOTE=HotDog666;3006844]Japan made great products but it never rivalled the west to the extent and breadth and nature of these as China does- the proof is in the fact that you need these tariffs to ward off the Chinese.[/QUOTE]0 for 5. In the 1980's, Japan voluntarily decided to limit the number of cars exported to the USA but then developed luxury brands to make more money per car. There is no Lexus, Infiniti, or Acura without that limit, and you are blind to see the effect they had on American and European luxury brands.

[QUOTE=HotDog666;3006844]Let's say just for the sake of argument that you're right about China's upcoming stagnation (even though it's America the one which is stagnating and recessioning). It still won't matter. Do you know why? Because we don't need future projections to show how America's might is receded and China's extended.[/QUOTE]0 for 6. The reason the USA had to project its might is because the USA economy would be in depression if foreign oil were not secured. The USA no longer needs to do that, and China does. That is not a strength but a weakness. We just have to protect our homeland now.

[QUOTE=HotDog666;3006844]The extent of respect that people have for America outside America has diminished tremendously and continues to decline.[/QUOTE]0 for 7. I have been in so many countries and they know so much about our politics. The first I heard of Ukrainegate I think I was in Mexico. In comparison, if you asked the average American, outside of Putin, I do not think they could name another world leader. And you know why?

Because whoever is president in Canada, Mexico, Germany, France, Japan, or the UK, our closest "allies", does not matter to the average American. On the flip side, I have heard Europeans griping that the elections in the USA are so important to them that they would rather vote in our elections than their own.

Spending tax dollars to improve America's image in countries most Americans cannot find on a map may have made a little sense when we needed foreign oil. It makes no sense now.

And you are missing the biggest point of all. Unlike every other advanced nation, the USA is the only one not dependent on getting energy from abroad. (Yes, we get oil from Canada but do not need to build an army and navy to secure it.). I do not know how or why people blow off something that important, but they do.

I first heard this gold bug decline of America bullshit in 2006. A lot of it was based on how much we were spending on foreign oil that was going to doom us. The argument that you are making that the USA cannot bring industry back to the USA is way weaker than it was for oil. Can you imagine what most people would have thought if someone said in 2006, the USA will soon be a net energy exporter? They would have said you belong in a fucking loony bin. Consensus does not equal truth.

Hotdog, you have not supported any of your positions with facts, and it is really a a disappointment. I thought you were better than this. All you are doing is just regurgitating consensus that I have already heard, refuted and ultimately rejected. Quit with the mental masturbation and come back when you have some new facts to support your POV.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3006813]They should be awarded Congressional Medals of Honor for defending Democracy with their lives against the forces of EVIL (Zuckerburg Bezos Gates et al), many were unjustly sent to prison and. They need to be compensated for their sacrifices.[/QUOTE]I need to be compensated for the injustices I received due to discrimination in the government / corporate wage slave plantations I emancipated myself from.

[B]40 Acres and a mule![/B]

I am good with it!

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;3005993] Ah yes, thanks for quoting SC. I needed my daily dose of medicine from a racist, unpatriotic, unappreciative narcissist. [/QUOTE] [i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i] Don't you mean your daily dose of racist white supremacy bullshit from your orange Fuhrer?

Or was it, the other fakeass and feckless "patriot", who recently can't post here for shit, any better than a 5th grader, without you literally seeing stars!

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;3005993] And the difference between Kill the Boer and kill the white man is hugely significant in his mind. ... That had to change. Ah yes, South Africa is such a great example of why white people should be so compassionate with black people.

Meanwhile, the oppressed SC, ... Ah yes, you are so compassionate with tax payer dollars. Yes, SC, I will sacrifice my tax handouts for you. You go first brother. [/QUOTE] [i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i] If only you weren't such a chicken shit and had the [b]balls/guts to respond to SubCmdr's posts,[/b] instead of jerking off to the 5th grader's "starry" posts, you might get the answers you seek.

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;3005993]Of course, he is your brother in arms. You, SC, and Loony Tooms are cut from the same cloth, a group of parasites wanting more government money for your hookers, ...[/QUOTE] Despite your Paycheck Superhero delusions, Elvis 2008, and since everyone knows you thrive on bullshit and a healthy serving of gish gallop, I ask again...

[b]JUST the FACTS ma'am![/b]

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3006758]The Democrats have been every bit as neoliberal as the Republican since the defeat of Dukakis in 88.

Yes indeed Scumbag Bubba tried his damnedest to destroy the USA for a few shekels!! He set in motion many of the issues of major today.

And I would be remiss if I didn't hold Scumbag Ronnie to account as well, with his amnesty of illegals in 86.[/QUOTE]When we talk about China what is going to do them is their demographic decline. China will lose a large percentage of its population over the next coming decades.

One reason immigration is necessary is without immigrants the United States would suffer the same demographic decline. Up until covid the United States was the only developed country with an increasing population. Stop the flow of immigrants and this becomes a decline which will affect the country far more than having a few bad apples amongst the bunch.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3006660]Well, that explains a lot.

Yeah, well you like a strong USA military when you live abroad. Unlike the rest of us who live here, all we care about is the homeland being protected. It was different when the USA was getting 70% of its energy from abroad. Now we are an energy exporter.

Europe and Japan are and were dependent on foreign crude as well. In that world, they were our allies. In this world, they are our business competitors. We pay for their defense and they take money they should be spending for their defense and pay for their social programs. Trump has looked at that and concluded it is a ripoff. Seeing how you live abroad, you have a different value system than those of us who live in the USA. You want the USA military to be protecting you.

What you see as treasonous, I see the other way around. Why are we paying for the defense of our "allies" and the world? It no longer benefits us. We are giving our business competitors a leg up. Spending money on foreigners and not Americans is what I see as treasonous.

That again? Biden allegedly got more black votes than Obama. Harris got 75 million votes in 2024. Biden got 81.2 million in 2020 in the middle of a fucking pandemic and in 2024, this was after Biden opened the door to all these illegals to vote Democrat, tens of millions more. Not defending our borders is an act of treason. Trump got 2 million more votes in 2024 than 2020, so all these alleged Biden voters did not switch sides.

The lab leak being the cause of the pandemic was suppressed. There was a literal conspiracy among the intelligence agencies and the media about the Hunter Biden laptop. Shit, we still got Loony Tooms here calling it Trump's pandemic versus the China pandemic and Spidy's throat is sore given how many blowjobs he has given the CCCP. The polls were complete bullshit as they always have been when Trump runs. Biden's health was being lied about. And no one was put under oath about rigging an election as the judges wisely did not want to here dick about their needing to overturn an election, and the Dems are like, "You see the judges are on our side. " which was complete bullshit.

I disagree with the tactics on January 6 but the people were patriots not traitors. If you are going to call the January 6 marchers traitors, then you better come up with where these 6 million more votes came from. The Democratic douche answer is I do not know. Well, that is not good enough. If the Democratic douches were really interested in the truth, they would be demanding that this be looked into. They have not. What does that tell you?

We Republicans do not need this investigated. We know what fucking happened. Like I said, the January 6 marchers were patriots, and I get their passion, but the goal should have been learning how the Democrats cheated and not letting them do it again which is ultimately what happened. I am not going to condemn people marching on Washington in an election that was so obviously rigged. Yes, a few were violent or thieves, and there is no excusing that. But arresting those who just showed up after being let in which was almost all of them? Give me a fucking break!

You mean the neocons made up of Eastern European Jews who want Muslims and Christians dead? They dominated Republican foreign policy when Bush was president and when Republicans learned what they were really up to, they were tuned out. Now they have taken over the foreign policy of the Democratic party and the results have been just as bad, millions more Muslims and Christians dead.

When you really get down to it, a president is limited with much of what he can do, Probably his greatest power is the military. No, Trump has not done all he said he was going to, but no one expected him to. The difference with regards to war with Biden and Trump is where there is a completely different and refreshing change.[/QUOTE]Bretton woods was fantastic for the world. The United States Navy kept the sea lions open for international commerce without prejudice. And when the United States was the sole hegemon after the fall of the Soviet Union we saw a dramatic decrease in war deaths. With the weakening of the United States military, the end of bretton woods, and the rise of China and a resurgent russia, we are going to see far more proxy wars. When the United States was the scary big dog these countries didn't dare move in the wrong direction.

Donald Trump weekend the United States position dramatically during his first term by trying to be buddy buddy with Vlad for one. I do fall Biden for not declaring a no-fly zone the minute Putin started massing troops on the Ukraine border.

A strong United States military is excellent for you if you live in the United States as is a strong dollar and a large trade deficit. It allows you to buy goods cheaply.

As far as a Jewish conspiracy against islamics and christians, meh. For the most part Israel just wants to be left alone. Let's face it at the Arabs taking the 47 partition plan we'd have to States and no problems right now. But they weren't willing to share. And each time they attacked Israel they lost territory. I think what both Israel and the islamists have done to the Palestinian people is absolutely abominable. Since Arafat and the rise of the PLO Palestinians have presented a threat to the other Arab states. See Jordan, syria, and Egypt and do a little digging. It's interesting that most of the Arab states have stronger laws against islamists than we do in the West, because they know the threat they pose, as does Israel.

Before the current horrors opened in Gaza started by the October attacks, Saudi Arabia was on the verge of recognizing Israel and the rest of the Gulf States would have fallen in line leaving the Shia States isolated, which is perhaps the best we could hope for in the Middle East. I don't think it's pure coincidence that Hamas decided to attack knowing full well that the Palestinian people it is supposed to protect would bear the brunt of what was to come. Probably had a lot to do with the impending agreement between Israel and Saudi.