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Hello Stout Dick,

What in the fuck have we been telling everybody about Soho?

Had you have heard me on ITN Radio last September, you would have heard my horror story of the same thing. Also I got into a huge diatribe with the Police Chief of the City of Westminster that the Bobbies in Soho are ALL on the take.

Fucking crooked coppers is why the ripoff joints keep operating with impunity in Soho.

Sobusy,

Academy Girls in London has quite a few Asian and/or Oriental ladies. Look em up on punter net dot com.

Also, Les Girls has a couple of Asian ladies.

In the areas southeast of Berwick in Soho is Chinatown where there many walk-ups with Oriental ladies.

If you are loking for India type Asian ladies you might take a look around Brick Lane/White Chapel area by Aldgate.

On the price at King's Cross, it was 50 for BBBJ and CIM when I was there last, some time ago. But see other posts as to whether the area has been cleaned up since. No room required. In fact, these are quite low-life street walkers. Don't take too much money or valuables with you, would be my advice. Find somewhere around there where there are no cameras. The girls should know!

Hope this helps!

Traveler from Chicago here that just wanted to ask a few questions. I didn't partake of anything but I thought about...(or at least the little head did!)


So last night I was in Soho walking around. Mindful of all the reports on here, I stayed away from the clip joints and the girls walking up to me. But here is a question for you: A woman walked up to me across from Madame JoJos and said that she knew places where they were offering 20 mintes for £20, 30 minutes for £30, and so on. oral, massage, Fs all with a condom. As usual, I figured this was too good to be true. Was it? Was it 20 minutes of time, but if I wanted sex I would have to pay a lot more? She promised a 16 year old Asain girl. More shite??

I also found one of those yellow shopper papers with the ads in back, but it was too late, and besides if BA ends there strike, I am going to Hong Kong tonight so I can get the real deal with an Asain girl. Figured I might as well save my money here and spend it HK.

Well, thanks for all the warnings, I might have been royally ripped off if you guys had not reporterd on Soho

The sad truth is that ALMOST EVERYTHING IN LONDON IS A RIP-OFF. Seriously. The best thing you can do is book a flight to Holland for 15 pounds on Easyjet and ENJOY. But, failing that, my suggestion is, head up to Oxford St, Bond St or Tottenham Court Rd tube (underground) stations and take the central line to either Marble Arch or Queenwsway. At Marble Arch, exit and walk up Edgware Rd and check out the phone boxes for cards. For Queensway, exit and walk up Queensway for same. Takes about half an hour and worth the treck, believe me! My suggestion is take the extra two stops to Queensway. Generally the numbers starting in (0171) 229 or (0171) 727 are local and worth phoning.

Hope this helps!

[QUOTE]A woman walked up to me across from Madame JoJos and said that she knew places where they were offering 20 mintes for £20, 30 minutes for £30, and so on. oral, massage, Fs all with a condom. As usual, I figured this was too good to be true. Was it?[/QUOTE]Actually, those are walkup prices in that area. She still might have been trying to rip you off, though. There are girls on the streets in Soho who specialize in taking your money in advance, leading you on a wild goose chase, and then suddenly disappearing.

Avoid anything on the street. Just look for the "model upstairs" cards inside open doors.

Happy Gardener,

Like we have been shouting here, DEAL WITH NO ONE AND I MEAN NO ONE IN THE STREET!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sure they know of these places. You can walk around and see them your own self with out their fuggin help. All they were doing was setting you up to take your money.

They are easy to trust as they are so damn glib. They will take you to an apartment and take the money and tell you to knock. Of course when you knock, the person there doesn't know a damn thing and your cash is trotting off toward the nearest dope dealer.

Rule of thumb: The more you want to trust them, don't!!

For the person who asked for information for sex in the SURREY area....

Massage Parlour Raynes Park (near station)

020 8542 2793 (havent checked it out but heard some pleasant things about it).

Silk & Lace Escort Agency (£120 an hour) contact 01707 880044
link is www.silkandlace.demon.co.uk (Kingston-Upon-Thames AREA).

Check out the local papers under the section "Adult Services"

Dear All

First time I was in Soho I got suckered, that was before the days of the WSG, so I didn't have the great advice posted here. I was enticed by a girl standing outside a door way. She offered the world and out of curiosity I went down to her bar. I got real nervous when they asked me to buy the girl a drink. I asked for the menu and saw the ridiculous charges for drinks. At this point I slipped up by agreeing to sit with the girl in a cubicle. We had small talk for a few minutes and I popped the question, "how much for sex?" She said I had to go upstairs and another woman would do it for £100. I just sensed I was being taken for a ride and decided to get out. The woman behind the bar said I had to pay £200 for the girls company!! At this point there was a gorilla standing next to me telling me to pay the lady. I only had £20 and after some argument I gave them this and left. I was in 2 minds as to whether to give them my £20 or just walk out but I figured paying the £20 was preferable to finding out what had happened if I just pushed past the gorilla standing at the door. Since then I have heard many stories about how guys got stung in these places, or worse, they got roughed up. I was watching a documentary once about policing in Soho, a guy was complaining to some police outside a clip joint that had just ripped him off, the police pointed to a small sign outside the club with prices in small print on it and told him they had done nothing illegal. I think it is totally f*cked up the way this is allowed to go on.

I cannot re-iterate more what Merlin says. Only last week I was walking through Soho and a girl approached me and put her arm around mine and asked "do you wanna come with me for sex baby, it's real cheap". I also clocked the 2 black guys she was talking to just before talking to me, both of whom were now following behind. I told her I wasn't interested and she eventually gave up. A few years ago I agreed to go with a streetgirl in Soho and she took me to a rather posh looking address (I was expecting something seedier), she rang the bell and asked for money. I realised she was taking me for a sucker and walked off. She followed and got angry but i told her to f*ck off or I would get the police and that was the end of it.

Soho is still IMHO the cheapest and safest place to have sex in London. I know this has been said before but let me say it again, all you have to do is look for doorways with signs that say MODEL. Go up the stairs and there may be 2 or 3 flats. Knock on the door and an old lady will answer. She will take you into a bedroom, or waiting room if the girl is busy, the girl will come in and you can talk prices. If your not interested then you can just leave and the girl won't be annoyed. I haven't been using Soho for a while but I think prices are about £25 or higher for S+F and a £1 tip for the maid. I had some real stunners from flats in Soho, I also met some pigs. I found the sex was mechanical most of the time but there have been a few times when the girl went out of her way to please me. Don't expect anything near a GFE in Soho, what do you expect for £25! BTW if there is anyone standing outside the doorway or on the staircase then avoid even talking to these people, they are just low life hustlers.

I'm interested in finding out about good places to go for street walkers. Is there still an active scene in Commercial Street and Whitechapel? I would love to meet one that would do BBBJ and anal

In reading *****seekers post, I was reminded and still laugh about a long ago post in this forum about a guy who went through the very same thing. Only he was savvy enough to buzz toward the front door and he managed to grab the absent receptionist's purse on the way out. He was 400 quid richer for the experience and he managed to get way ahead of the goons. Just a case of all the right pieces of the puzzle falling in place at the right time.

I still say the Soho coppers are on the take. I know of one street cop whose old lady drives a Jag Vanden Plas. Cops whose wifeys don't work also can't afford Jags. Get real.

i’ve paid for sex in six countries and tried a few of london’s red light districts, so i’d like to share my knowledge. i can’t exactly do this anywhere else – i used to have a friend who was into the same thing, and even he lamented, “do all your stories involve drugs or prostitutes?” (the answer was, well, yes, the interesting ones, anyway). here goes:

my fave hunting ground is kings cross. sometimes you find only police or god people, but usually there are some spiffing girls. the really young ones, 20 or younger, are best avoided ‘cos rumour has it they aren’t honest, and they don’t look it either. i’m not keen on knee tremblers, so i prefer to find a b&b on macdonald square opposite the station. a couple don’t mind wgs – the manager has taken the girl off me, twice, when i’d finished. i couldn’t currently name one such b&b since the manager of the one i used to frequent went back to greece and i don’t know how tolerant is his successor. sometimes the girl will know where to go. prices are low, they will usually kiss or do owo for a bit extra, and as they’re almost all into hard drugs, they can get some for you, too. yippee! being a major railway station it’s all too easy to be seen by people you work with. i resolved the problem by only working outside the uk, but if that option isn’t open to you, i suppose you’ll be fine if you only go late at night, and there’s no problem at all if you’re just a tourist.

these days i make it a rule to never go back to the girl’s place. quite a few times it’s worked out, but sometimes it really, really hasn’t. ofttimes the girl said she lived alone and when you get there, there’s some black guy. “oh,, him?” says she, “that’s just leroy…”. once i didn’t get the hour i paid for because we were in the room with the television and “leroy gets a bit funny without his television”. although, that said, leroy gave me a lift to the station afterwards. and the girl was his wife. i’ve had worse experiences than that but you can guess the details.

sadly, risk can only be minimised, never eliminated. you check beforehand that the girl will have a shower, that’s it’s ok to give her a massage with oil and that there’s no charge on top of what’s agreed, and then she’ll go back on what she said. or she’ll just get up and leave, and you’re left with none of your money and all of your chang chi (i.e. sexual energy; it’s a taoist concept).

an aside: these ladies are a great way to learn massage. i mean, these days wgs ask me how it’s done. i once had a thai girl who said over and over, “you massage teacher!” and she let me do it sans-johnny, which obviously wasn’t something to which she was accustomed. i can generally elicit an orgasm so long as the woman doesn’t mind what she’s doing. you can spot a real orgasm from the rapid breathing, the little jerky movements she does or the fact that she gets wet at exactly the right moment, or if she’s drenched in sweat or out-of-breath afterwards. i shit you not.

sussex gardens in paddington is quite good. the street is entirely made up of b&bs, many of which don’t have a permanently manned reception, although it takes a while to find one with vacancies and if detected you’ll never be able to go back to the same place again. the girls there, alas, don’t always do kissing and hard drugs aren’t readily available, but the quality is good and i’ve always found them to be honest.

i tried commercial street, looking the place over many a time and doing the business once. there’s sometimes been some v. nice chuff but not one girl i asked ever had a room to go to, and it’s a bit out of the way – gbp10 by taxi from kx, which is better in all respects apart from being clocked by co-workers.

i have some experience of westbourne park grove in notting hill. there’s rarely any action before 11pm and there are no b&bs, but there are some good girls there, they’re always crackheads and the stuff is all-too-easy to get hold of.

i’ve tried quite a few massage parlours, my favourites being the one next to mornington crescent tube and the one down the road from the kings cross holiday inn. the same girls work in both. kissing is unlikely to occur, owo has been known to happen, and i patronise them if i don’t mind these limitations or if i’m not feeling brave enough to try street trade.

soho? at least you know what you’re getting with up-the-stairs models, although they’ll charge extra to let you lick the holy of holies if they allow it at all and there’s only one place with a shower. it’s at number 2, the lady is lena and pretty she is not. and she has what looks like a third nipple (she told me it wasn’t, but that’s what it looked like). kissing is almost unheard-of. there are usually some girls hanging around walker’s court, some of whom i wouldn’t touch with a barge-pole but i’ve talked to some who were nice and i’d take one with me if i had a place to go. per para 3, i wouldn’t go back to her place. i once ventured into a clip joint at age 17. the police turned up with some arab guy who’d been fleeced entirely legally, and i made myself scarce having lost only gbp20, which was worth it for the anecdote.

i’ve only ever been to shepherd’s bush once, looking for monica coghlan’s comadres. it’s just soho writ small – a couple of stairways to heaven and that’s it, no pedestrian chuff.

i haven’t tried streatham because i don’t think i’d come out alive. however i will be trying the other places mentioned here.

the rest of the uk? glasgow girls are generally ug-lee, edinburgh girls are sometimes nice but never as good as london. all the edinburgh massage parlour girls used to kiss back in 1998 but this was no longer the case when i visited recently. i tried bradford back in 1993 but my knowledge is way out-of-date. i once went to a house of ill repute in bristol where the lady was almost 20, devastatingly attractive and she kissed enthusiastically.

some other posters have commented on other parts of the world, so my summary follows. amsterdam is actually the worst. the girls can be a+ looking but they don’t let you do anything interesting at all, and i’m not talking about bb or owo. the girls in the so-called discotheques of luxembourg were very pretty, but back in 1998 the street trade was all unconvincing transvestites or non-pretty black wimmin who put on heavy make-up to make their faces paler – michael jackson syndrome.

australia is great. canberra keeps all its establishments in fishwyck in the middle of nowhere but the girls who did out-calls were not that expensive and sometimes very pretty indeed., and they usually sucked face. but you can’t make a booking on a mobile ‘phone – you need a land-line. sydney is as good as it gets. kings cross has hordes of girls and it’s eminently easy to get a room. kissing transpired. owo and bb have been known to happen, and i saw a couple of girls with kaposi’s sarcoma to prove it (i still did it, just not with those ones). kings cross in sydney has one problem in common with it’s london namesake: it’s restaurants etc make it very popular with normophiles, and you will be seen by people you work with (i was actually working for a religious organisation at the time. it was a bit of a downer). i eventually realised the trick was not to go to kings cross road itself, but to the road perpendicular to it, where there are loads of girls and rooms, and no colleagues. the only other drawback to sydney, and it’s a small one, is that although the rooms always had access to a shower, there would sometimes be no towel or soap, and you really need to get the massage oil off you to avoid funny looks on your way home. cannabis was instantly available, so long as the coffee shop hadn’t been raided recently. there was one particular spot that was popular with transexuals, should you wish to find out where your prostate is.

i did a spell in berne, switzerland. there were “nightclubs” that were fairly pricey but they took amex so i didn’t care. the girls were sometimes great, but they didn’t kiss and there was only a couch on which to make the beast with two backs. a friend procured a russian lady and actually went out with her for a few weeks, but it didn’t last because he worked during the day and she worked at night. some of the street trade was good and drugs of all kinds were all over the place.

finally, germany: cologne’s r-l-d is made up of two streets, one of which is eintrachstrasse and the other adjoins it and has a globus supermarket. there was usually no street trade, and what there was was mostly made up of one woman, and she wasn’t that pretty. there is a knocking-shop on eintrachstrasse where the girls were nice looking but not in the least adventurous. horror of horrors, it closed at 21:30. there are four pubs where you can get a girl and take her to a “pension”, i.e. a goose-stepping b&b. the pensions were clean as can be and had no problem with wgs. one of the pubs - they call them lokals - specialised in desirable english-speaking african wimmin. the blacker the berry, the sweeter the juice.

i also have some familiarity with stuttgart. there was one obvious knocking shop with four floors, full of the african wimmin cologne turned down. elsewhere, you had these pub-type places where a lady would take you to a room with a couch (never a bed) and get her tits out for the lad. you get manual relief and that’s all. as for street trade, some of the ladies “would do” but the only really pretty one was a 21 yo called andrea who didn't kiss and kept her socks on. and i feel a woman isn’t truly nekkid if she keeps her socks on. but her english was flawless. cannabis wasn’t available in the r-l-d. the best place to score was the railway station. i asked a complete stranger whom i guessed was dodgy because he was mediterranean looking and standing around on his own. he took me to a kebab shop, i gave him some cash and he came back with the goods when he could easily have done a runner. nice man.

here endeth.

Hi Merlin,

Just wanted to know about the wg's in Brick lane area. You wrote in one of your posts that you've come across Indian / asian girls in the area. When would be the best time to have a look around? ie around 7-8pm or later. Also does there seem to be more activity on certain days, ie nearer weekends? Is there anything I should watch out for as I've never punted in London. (apart from the obvious ;-))

I was recently in Manchester and had a look around the Cheetham Hill / Picadilly area, there were a fair few girls out but didnt come across any ethnic variety.

Comments appreciated :-)

I left one thing out of my recent epic: agencies. I think the best place to find them is What's on in London. There's one that does bleck wimmin, it was about GBP200/hour and the girls were realy nice, black as hell and they kissed at least sometimes (it's important to me, OK).

I tried some girls at GBP300 a pop. There was an agency based in Kensington or somewhere posh, called 18-23 Girls or similar. If you go to the office you can peruse a brochure at a charge. The one I ended up with was 18 and v. pretty, but no face was sucked. I tried an oriental at the same price from another agency. She was 23 but said she was 18, and she was very pretty but had horrid stretch marks. Should have got me to massage oil into your belly when you were with child, dear.

There's an independent who describes herself a "Navajo indian". She's really from Nigeria and she likes her food a bit much for her own good, ie she was FAT, dammit! I mean slap the thighs and ride the ripples. After you fuck her you roll over twice and you're still on top of the *****. To top it off, I was with her in a cheapo Paddington B&B. She 'phoned someone on her mobile and ended up shouting at whoever was at the other end - in a tiny hotel at midnight.

The moral of the story? For GBP300 on the streets of Kings Cross or Notting Hill you can get a girl who isn't as well dressed but is just as pretty, and you can also afford a room for the night, loadsa drugs, BBBJ, BB, get ripped off the first time you try it and you'll still have change.

Hi

There have been several reports about the Kings Cross area, this is the lowest quality SW you can find in London. The SW s here are all drug addicts or have some other addiction. If good looks is no object it is ok, but most of these girls are beyond ugly and are not to be trusted. Another thing is that the police have zero tolerance for prostitution in this area due to complaints from the public.

Go instead to Brick lane area or Old Montague Street, near Aldgate(East London)

Good hunting

William

[QUOTE]Originally posted by What Sure Flava
[i]Hi Merlin,

Just wanted to know about the wg's in Brick lane area. You wrote in one of your posts that you've come across Indian / asian girls in the area. When would be the best time to have a look around? ......[/i][/QUOTE]

I would avoid Brick Lane (for WG or food) If you want South Asians, try some agencies - albiet expensive, but reliable. I remember sirens used to have a couple. Look around at ********* on who (the SP) are recommended.