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I agree that's a good restaurant. The situation you describe is common and my assumption is that in that situation the girl is likely to be available. Whether she is likely to be interested in anyone else will be down to a balance between whether you are younger, more handsome or richer than the guy she is with - with weighting on those criteria of maybe 5%, 10% and 85%. If you are anything like me the only card you have to play is the last one!

The question is what to do? Given many bule's predispostion to settle disputes by violence rather than rationale argument, the sensible thing is nothing. However, If I really want a girl in that situation what I do is this: on the way out, give the waiter a good tip and tell him you want the girl in question and leave it to him - leaving him with your hp number. I tell him to tell her I am a regular customer and very rich. I did this in the Shangri La restaurant last month and I've been sms'd by the girl in question ever since.

Mandiri - I've just read Knight1001's report in reponse to your question - so now you know what to do! By the way, I would not be deterred if there are only girls waiting on the tables either.

[quote]The question is what to do? Given many bule's predispostion to settle disputes by violence rather than rationale argument, the sensible thing is nothing. However, If I really want a girl in that situation what I do is this: on the way out, give the waiter a good tip and tell him you want the girl in question and leave it to him - leaving him with your hp number. I tell him to tell her I am a regular customer and very rich. I did this in the Shangri La restaurant last month and I've been sms'd by the girl in question ever since.[/QUOTE]Many thanks Bulai ! I will have this is mind next time I am in such circumstances.

[QUOTE=Humsup]Studying the priceless info on the forum, provided by the sifu's (Masters) [i]you know who you are[/i] of the freebie and mall surfing scene in Jakarta, I decide to try it out myself.[/QUOTE]That's a nice, informative post. I'd disagree with some of the pricing for mall hunting, but overall a nice tight post. :)

Why stop at 19 holes? :D

[QUOTE=Notidik]Bros in ID,

I have been pestered many times by my clients to take them to Cengkareng Golf course in Jakarta because I was told there are many extras available other than golf. For one all the lady caddies wear a standard mini skirts and the looks standard are high. Even have a spa in the male changing rooms.

Can anyone verify this before I put them on the plane to head over there? If the girls are pretty can we take them out? How much?

I guess playing golf on this course is secondary to the girls, 19 holes golf course![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Menteng]Another monger and I, recently mentioned Cici of jalan Industri 9-11, room 19, for anal action and threesomes. Let Cici choose the second girl and you will be guaranteed a threesome like you want it, GT2.

[QUOTE]

I thought someone mentioned a while ago that Cici has moved on to a different location?

[QUOTE=Notidik]Bros in ID,

I have been pestered many times by my clients to take them to Cengkareng Golf course in Jakarta because I was told there are many extras available other than golf. For one all the lady caddies wear a standard mini skirts and the looks standard are high. Even have a spa in the male changing rooms.

Can anyone verify this before I put them on the plane to head over there? If the girls are pretty can we take them out? How much?

I guess playing golf on this course is secondary to the girls..... 19 holes golf course![/QUOTE]

Hi Bro,

I do play there quite regularly, whenever I am in Indonesia.

First of all, there is no "spa" as reported, but it is true that the massage room is just adjacent to, and opens from, the male dressing room. The MLs are all sitting outside the main entrance to the male dressing room, so you can see the standard of the stocks available, usually just 2-3 girls.

They tend to be aged in their mid- to late 20s, and look quite worn-out, i.e. pasty complexion, loose figures, etc. The quality of the massage really sucks, just gentle strokes on your body with hardly any pressure, and its just a front for FS, and they ask for Rp 1,000,000 (I have tried twice, out of pure desperation!).

The waitresses are ... mama mia! They are the ones wearing the mini-skirts, not the caddies. I envy the person in charge of selecting the waitresses, as they are all VERY SLIM, and they all have an inherent, inborn charm -- be it the eyes, the smile, the way they walk, etc. etc.

The lowdown of all this is that they GO FOR BULES! I have tried many times, and all I have ever got were smiles, and a couple of phone numbers. Yes, they are very willing to give you their phone numbers, but whether they pick up the phone is another matter, and when they do, getting them out is not so easy, cos they are used to receiving all the attention from golfers.

As long as you're Asian, the response is quite cool, whilst the bules get all the hugs, kisses and caresses ... right in the restaurant in full view of everyone. I have even gone one-on-one against a German friend for the favours of one of the waitresses, and everytime I get her alone (in the restaurant), she keeps changing the subject to him. I was told that it's due to their perception that married Asians will rarely divorce wives to marry them, and give them a ticket to a better life. However, I was also told many rich Indonesians "take care" of them for a couple of months, and they are willing.

Regarding the caddies, they have cock-teasing down to a fine art. My most recent experience was with one "hot" caddy, who often stood behind me to rub her C-cups on my back whenever I was reading a putt on the green. I thought the deal was done, as she promised to come to my hotel -- well, I waited and waited .... Most of the caddies live nearby the golf course, so asking them to make the journey to your hotel in the city is very difficult, coupled with the fact that they have to start very early the next morning to work.

I was told by Bro Menteng that there's a place in Blok M where some caddies from Cengkareng hang out.

Another "hot" golf course is Bogor Raya, where I was told that the caddies are even better than Cengkareng. I have never been there, and after hearing what people say about Cengkareng, am inclined to take it with a large dose of salt.

I think the "hottest" golf course in the region is Pinehurst in Bangkok, where they now have 900+ caddies (true!) - especially since they have introduced night golf. It has been said that the caddies for night golf are known to smell of Bvlgari, Christian Dior, etc. fragrances, as quite a few are university students looking for extra income. It's also one of the few golf courses that allow caddies to sit with golfers in the restaurant -- well, "I was told" all are available for take-out.

Best,
Panya

I very much agree with what our fren mentioned below. Being an avid golfer, I've managed to play in many courses around jkt and they to have a few things in common: 1. Teaser caddies 2. Gorgeous waitress 3. Gungho spa ladies.

The caddies are somewhat 50-50 chance hit rate but only the caddy thats working for U. No cross selling, meaning can't work on your fren's caddies. Maybe caddies' house rules. Got a few willing to go back til next morning but have to close deal before end of your game. Don't hope on them coming to hotel by giving cab fare. That's free tips for them. Once you are done with your golf game pick them up at an agreed place. Had my share from Modern, Bogor, Imperial, Jababeka and Rancamaya. It's all in the way you nego with them and trust me, how we look is not really a factor as long as the deal is attractive. Say Rph500k + dinner and drinks. Best chances: Modern, Imperial, Jababeka (cikarang)

Waitress are much difficult and as our brother pointed out, it is normal for them to give out fon numbers but they hardly go out with the golfers, bules or asians. The locals hv better luck because they can provide better for them for a longer stretch of time (1 month or so). But suprisingly, if anybody can get them out in a group and you happen to be around for drinks, they have no problem with you getting in their pants for free. As long as they have the impression that they are not pick up at the golf club while they are working! Talk about principles! Had some good luck with Imperial and Cengkareng waitresses. They did not notice that we were golfers at thier club earlier. He he

Spa girls. Don't waste time because you are definitely gonna waste a lot of money for nothing to shout about.

Sorry for the rumbling, just wanna share my experience as a malaysian golfer in JKT.

Happy golfing!

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Bro Panya,

I must have made you think other than I meant about the caddies of Cengkareng. It was not about a regular place where they usually hangout.

On that particular night a couple of months ago, the four caddies were out in Blok M. It was clear, that they were looking for some extra income and I must tell, that it didn't take them very long to get the company they were looking for.

I have never played golf in Cengkareng or any other place, so how did I know they were caddies from Cengkareng? The co-owner of the bar where I met the girls, does play golf there and he introduced them to me. I got one phonenumber, but since I've never called that number, I'm pretty confused now which of the girls names I have in my phone is the Cengkareng Girl's.

Diver 69,

She moves regularly from one place to another. Two days after our fellow ISG member mentioned that she has moved to a different location, I visited Jl Industri. She was there, in apt. number R19, again. So maybe she will not be there when you visit the place, but since she returns there regularly, you might find her the next time you visit the place.

[QUOTE=Mandiri]Hi,

This is to report that, to my surprise, I recently saw some Hotel Melawai girls operating at BATS -- probably coming over to BATS after the end of their evening shift. This clearly means that BATS is not only about "high-end" chicks but definitely also some chicks from the low-end side of JKT do also operate there. Best to put some serious condoms then ![/QUOTE]

Hmmm, this reads almost exactly the same as a post of mine from December.

Thank you for the overwhelming details on Cengkerang expecially from my countryman bro Panya and can I assume the term 'bule' refers to foreigner/mat salleh? If I am right then over in Phuket golf courses the same thing happens. The 'farang (western foreigner)' does take precedence over us asian. Wonder why, maybe the little bro is bigger?

The info on the Bangkok course also helped, now I know where to go.........

Fellow Brothers of the same interest, I will be going to Jakarta to attend a conference on the last week of March 2007. I just realised that that weekend is the birthday of Prophet Mohammad. Would the various "entertainment outlets" be asked to shut down in respect (like what happened during the Muslim Fasting Month)? Hope for some wise feedback from experience brothers on this forum. Cheers.

Normad2020

I would like to second that question.

I too wil be in Jakarta during the last week of March. Sure hope the usual places will be open.

Does anybody know anything?


[QUOTE=Normad2020]Fellow Brothers of the same interest, I will be going to Jakarta to attend a conference on the last week of March 2007. I just realised that that weekend is the birthday of Prophet Mohammad. Would the various "entertainment outlets" be asked to shut down in respect (like what happened during the Muslim Fasting Month)? Hope for some wise feedback from experience brothers on this forum. Cheers.

Normad2020[/QUOTE]

At tropical Spa, went there just before lunch time, the friendly middle age bloke greeted me on the second floor. I think he remember me from previous time(because of my zero level of bahasa indo).That time, I signal to him that I was looking for big-rack gal which he introduced me to No.15 who I enjoyed very much. I asked him how was No 9 and he told me good massage but not beautiful so forget that.

No.67,kiki, was offered and accepted…he seems to know better.What’s the famous Aguan look like?

She is a real cutie with friendly personality plus workable English which was a relief (for once).

After a very good massage with a lot of attention on my butt and balls, she then offer what she called “good service”. When asked what she meant by that, she said in her own work “very good head job and sex”.don’t know where she got that from but did sound very good to me.

However, almost lost my interest when she said 700k then 600 then 500 …cut to the chase, ended up at 350k(phew). The blow job was really slow and nice especially when she work you from the side..The sex part was just ok with her kept asking me to agree to slow down because also want to cum which I tried to ignore. Overall nice body, fair skin, not that big boobs but not small with little pink nipples.. a nice overall experience. After I was done, she asked me to come back with a closing sales pitch, next time even better service but can you give me 500k? there goes my WIR!

No.67
Look 7/10
Body 7/10
BBBJ 7/10
FJ 7/10
WIR no.. already had enough negotiation in my life

Recently moved to Jakarta and have been reading the forum pages with interest. Decided this week to 'test the waters'. Monday, tried Galaxy Spa, only because I was in the shopping complex in front of the Spa. Great for massage, but not much else. Attractive girl, nr 17, gave an ok HJ and allowed a bit of mutual touching (finger under her shorts, etc) but could not be coaxed into undressing or BJ.

Wednesday returned to my favourite from when I was here 7 years ago, Hotel Melawai, Blok M. 350000 + 24000 for a beer, but the girl 'Desi' was young, very pretty, great boobs and great tight body. Great BBBJCIM, and responded very well to mutual touching. Format there seems to have changed, last time you were swamped from the lift to the bar, this time I was not approached, even when having a beer at the bar, until I stood to leave, then the girls apporached. At 1130 there would have been at least 30 girls there, various sizes but none unattractive or 'lumpy'.

Friday, first trip to Kartika. Again it was early, 11am, but as soon as I walked in I was swamped. Selection was not great, not many girls, maybe 12, but there were 2 which met the critera. Before going off with Tooti, I enquired of the lady running the show the cost, to which she replied 250000 for the room, which is reported in the forum. I then asked how much for 2 girls, she said 500000 (naturally). To be cheeky I asked why if its 250000 for a room, it shouldnt matter how many girls I had........didn't work. Anyway, great body-body massage, but BBBJ was only fair, as was the sex with obligitory groaning at various times. Tip for the girl started at 120k but settled at 50k.

Has anyone had a 'mandi kucing' (cat bath) there? In fear of getting the obvious, is it normal to negotiate the cost with the girls in Kartika prior to engaging them? I had no problems sticking to my initial offer of 50k, but was wondering what the correct protocol there is, its a long lane to run up with angry women chasing you..

Fieldmous

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