Bangkok Reports

(Double post)

[QUOTE=Western787;1570881]From Stumble Inn? You can see which clubs Go Go girls go to? Big Dog is the best viewing spot and its even difficult there.

There is a bit of a mystery attached to Nana Plaza. Because lets say you start hanging at Big Dog's around 6:30 and watch the girls walk by headed to the clubs. When you check the clubs out later lets say around 8:30 to 9.00 pm, there always seems to be a lot more girls in the clubs than walk by Big Dogs. So either 1. They get there way before 6:30 pm despite 8 pm start times 2. There is another way into Nana Plaza (supposedly there isn't) 3. Some dancers actually live in the Go Go's.[/QUOTE]That is a thought I made too (and I drink no alcohol, so no point 4 for me). We all know there are tens and tens of girls working in all gogo's. Bars mention (each) at least hundred in their premises, but that is for the marketing department. Even if some numbers are overrated and even if we refer to the whole workforce who not necessarily has to show every given night (LT BF, sick, home etc) what we see passing through the entry port from 6 to 8 or even 9 doesn't match with what you then see inside. I don't even mention that a good 30% of the passing girls do not look like possible gogo girls (and they can't even all be waitresses)... For the sake of the argument and statics you don't even see walking by the number of LB's filling those 3-4 places fully dedicated to that lifestyle.

By all means there is not sufficient space in the ST rooms in NEP to host them.

All this regardless of curfew as my observations refer to a few months ago.

The numbers start to be more logical at 2 am, when bars are closing and the workforce flows out, accounting that some numbers are missing as BF's took place and girls are already out for ST or LT's.

[QUOTE=Western787;1571359]. In any case it would almost seems to be a complete waste of resources to not be using those rooms in some form.[/QUOTE]The waste is in case you usually rent those rooms for a price and you can't.

I don't see it a waste, from an owner point of view, not to have rooms occupied by girls in case the rooms are not used by ST customers.

I don't think the girls will pay for the use of the rooms. On the contrary, if used, the rooms will need cleaning etc before ening out back in service for ST use by customers. Too much of a hassle for no money.

I have a friend who lives in a studio and pays 100 b. A night (on monthly basis), so that is the benchmark, even adding saved transportation costs. Will the landlord rent ST rooms befor 150 night in the best case scenario? Then the girls should not have any other rent to be paid. Unlikely scenario.

I generally like to stop by here once on every Bangkok trip as a change of pace...

I see that it's closed now. Strangely they had just moved around a lot of the interior, and in my opinion, really messed up the flow of the place. A few months later poof. Seemed to be doing a fair amount of business still, so I wonder why it's gone.

Have the quasi-Russian girls settled on an alternative venue for themselves yet?

Wondering if it really matters over the next while with the curfew anyway.

[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1571320]I have taken fishbowl girls in the past as well, however, the inflatable mattresses was a feature missing in the rooms at Nataree. This time I found them there, a welcome change indeed.[/QUOTE]The mattresses weren't kept in the rooms but were fetched as we were getting ready.

[QUOTE=Pita123;1571699]The mattresses weren't kept in the rooms but were fetched as we were getting ready.[/QUOTE]Apparently they are now kept in the rooms, however, it may be very difficult to get the sideliners to give a B2 B. If I had only known that they fetched the (hidden) mattresses upon request in the past, hmm.

Yesterday in my hurry to beat the curfew deadline I zeroed in on a lady called Ehm with red designer glasses. I had another really friendly lady ready willing and able but stupidly I decided to check out the other ladies.

Anyway this was a pretty close to a disaster in my book, did not want to kiss and I had to beg for real blow job without a condom and then she complained I was too big. Then all kinds of drama about how much after agreeing in the bar. I refused to budge and thne encouraged her to leave early.

If you see her (she is the only one with glasses) AVOID her.

[QUOTE=BionicMan;1571450]

I don't see it a waste, from an owner point of view, not to have rooms occupied by girls in case the rooms are not used by ST customers.

[/QUOTE]Exploiting whatever resources a business brings to the table, is simply good business practice. Obviously if Poseidon or The Lord has all these rooms totally vacant at least half the day, and some probably most of the day (and even worse this year with the downturn etc), then they are going to exploit that so long as the additional marginal costs of such utilization are minimal. All things equal if they can pay the girls less by offering them free rooms, then they will do it, and based on what Sir Lancelot says about Phuket, that could well be the practice. I suspect most of the cars you see outside the The Lord during the day belong to the massage girls and other staff living right there, or perhaps out of town girls visiting for 3.5 week stints.

[QUOTE=Alroy;1571716]Yesterday in my hurry to beat the curfew deadline I zeroed in on a lady called Ehm with red designer glasses. I had another really friendly lady ready willing and able but stupidly I decided to check out the other ladies.

Anyway this was a pretty close to a disaster in my book, did not want to kiss and I had to beg for real blow job without a condom and then she complained I was too big. Then all kinds of drama about how much after agreeing in the bar. I refused to budge and thne encouraged her to leave early.

If you see her (she is the only one with glasses) AVOID her.[/QUOTE]Probably wears glasses as a disguise to remain annonymous. Consider that not a single person ever figured out that Clark Kent was actually Superman, the fake eyeglasses fooling everyone.

[QUOTE=Protocol;1571459]I generally like to stop by here once on every Bangkok trip as a change of pace...

I see that it's closed now. Strangely they had just moved around a lot of the interior, and in my opinion, really messed up the flow of the place. A few months later poof. Seemed to be doing a fair amount of business still, so I wonder why it's gone.

Have the quasi-Russian girls settled on an alternative venue for themselves yet?

Wondering if it really matters over the next while with the curfew anyway.[/QUOTE]A major documentary on (Russian-uzbekian) trafficking prominently featured the club. That may have been the final tipping point.

[QUOTE=Western787;1571752]A major documentary on (Russian-uzbekian) trafficking prominently featured the club. That may have been the final tipping point.[/QUOTE]It is always amazing how things get activated by these sort of happenings (documentary) just as LE needs to watch TV what goes on in their back yard. TV reporters get into things that a army of investigating policemen of any kind, plain clothes, skilled, trained, imported from other regions, supported by intelligence and means (I don't refer to space ship technology or NCIS series but to simple police means) can't access and achieve?

I honestly never believe this. Matter of the fact is that they all know but turn their faces elsewhere for both tea money and for the sake of the hidden underground economy that, at the end of the day, sustain overground economies. And, maybe, I underline maybe, better have some sort of known crime than worst crime.

When things come up too public, and a TV series is probably the broadest way to are things public as can also slip out of the country if the documentary is well done, they can't turn their faces anymore.. To save face.

Take a place as Dubai... A kind of mongering capital in the heart of a Muslim area. Tens and tens of WG of different shapes, nationalities, actions...

All tolerated till things become uncomfortable for the powers who should not allow that.

Whatever we know.. Is far more known already by LE, let's not ignore this.

[QUOTE=Western787;1571751]Probably wears glasses as a disguise to remain annonymous. Consider that not a single person ever figured out that Clark Kent was actually Superman, the fake eyeglasses fooling everyone.[/QUOTE]That must be the answer to your query in post #28516 too. A lot of the girls wear fake glasses so you don't recognize them as working girls!

(post #28516: There is a bit of a mystery attached to Nana Plaza. Because lets say you start hanging at Big Dog's around 6:30 and watch the girls walk by headed to the clubs. When you check the clubs out later lets say around 8:30 to 9.00 pm, there always seems to be a lot more girls in the clubs than walk by Big Dogs. So either 1. They get there way before 6:30 pm despite 8 pm start times 2. There is another way into Nana Plaza (supposedly there isn't) 3. Some dancers actually live in the Go Go's).

But seriously, I think the answer is number 1. They get there way before 6:30 pm because they want to socialize with their friends, do their hair and make up (we all know how long that can take!) etcetera. I guess for most of these girls the club is their whole life or at least a major part of it so they tend to hang out with each other.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;1571764]But seriously, I think the answer is number 1. They get there way before 6:30 pm because they want to socialize with their friends, do their hair and make up (we all know how long that can take!) etcetera. I guess for most of these girls the club is their whole life or at least a major part of it so they tend to hang out with each other.[/QUOTE]My guess too. I went to NEP around 6 and found the place was chock full of girls. But pretty much no tourists. Girls were making up, chatting with each other. There was the air of a carnival about to start up.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;1571764]That must be the answer to your query in post #28516 too. A lot of the girls wear fake glasses so you don't recognize them as working girls!

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But seriously, I think the answer is number 1. They get there way before 6:30 pm because they want to socialize with their friends, do their hair and make up (we all know how long that can take!) etcetera.[/QUOTE]I have been there also at 5-5.30 pm and didn't see much traffic either...

Some living in the gogo? Where? I can't see much space for "permanent" living / sleeping conditions even if "just a mattress".

Stickman's weekly column reports no army presence on lower Sukhumvit. Bars in Nana Plaza are staying open past curfew. Taxis are running past curfew. Climax is staying open until 5 am.